6: Waiting for the music to begin again


by ssiscribe

ATLANTA – The ballpark on the corner of Hank Aaron and Ralph David Abernathy stands quiet for now. An occasional gathering of show cars will congregate in one of its parking lots from time to time on weekends. On holidays, Atlanta’s homeless come here to be fed and shown they truly are not forgotten.


Otherwise, all is calm at the Home of the Braves.


Driving past on the Downtown Connector Sunday afternoon, heading into the city with my best girl to wrap up our Christmas shopping, I cast my eyes toward Turner Field, its third-base side running parallel to Interstate 75/85.


“I want to sit on that side more this season,” my bride said, recalling the final game we attended in 2007 and how she loved sitting along the third-base side of the field, where she could look inside the Braves’ dugout.


(One may opine it’s a way for her not to lose sight of the strapping young first baseman who may or may not open 2009 in the same place he opens 2008. Let’s hope she’s staring at him in a Braves uniform for years to come.)


It’s moments like this, as the December winds usher in its frostiness, where I miss baseball the most. The ebb and flow of the sport’s day-in, day-out action becomes a backbeat to our daily existence, and it’s a bit lonely when November, December and January come to call.


But then we reach February, and it begins anew. It starts with a distant drumbeat, reverberating from ports of call far to the south, from Lakeland and Clearwater and Jupiter and, of course, the palace at Mickey’s Place, aka The Ballpark at Disney. It builds its steady crescendo with reports a plenty, news of this prospect and that newcomer, of this rehabbing star and that veteran contributor. It climbs until the symbols clash, the trumpets blare and, against the backdrop of red, white and blue bunting, Opening Day arrives with all the pomp and circumstance fit for a king.


Baseball is back; long live the king.


From there, the rhythm continues through spring and summer, through week-long homestands and West Coast road trips. Some days, the drums beat at a frantic pace, as the team rallies for late-inning victories, the starters dominate, the relievers throw pure gas and the stars pound out homers and doubles and clutch hits. Other days, the music slows, as the starters can’t escape the fifth inning, the relievers can’t hold the lead, the offense sputters and the manager adds to his “record” of seeing the clubhouse (or, to be factual, the hallway leading from dugout to clubhouse) before the final pitch is delivered.


Before you know it, September arrives. The playoff push is on for still most everybody in this day and age of the wild card. The days fly off the calendar, the drama builds, the music rises in volume until we reach Game No. 162. And then, for all but eight fortunate teams and their legions of fans, it’s over. Winter comes early; curses, foiled again.


We watch the Elite Eight battle it out during the next month. Postseason memories are added to our scrapbook, the heroes of autumn etched alongside Mazeroski and Fisk and Reggie and Gibson and Morris and Cabrera and Glavine and Jeter and Beckett and a hundred other names whose exploits when the music played at its grandest and the spotlight glared at its brightest will keep us warm for years to come.


Then, it ends. One team takes home the trophy, its fan base awash for all of time in the glory of residing – even if for just one year – in the hall of champions. But even the euphoria of winning the World Series cannot keep the cold Arctic winds from plunging south. The leaves fade and fall. The music goes silent. Baseball is gone, off into its winter hibernation.


And we find ourselves on a cold December afternoon driving past the place where grown men play a kid’s game, and we find ourselves longing for warm sunshine, the National Anthem, the sound of “play ball” and the return of baseball’s rhythm. On this, the coldest morning of the year along the southern rim of the capital city, how I long to see nine men in white uniforms standing on the green grass and brown dirt of my hometown ballpark. How I miss baseball so on mornings where the fingers don’t want to do their dance across the keyboard, where even the third cup of coffee fails to warm the body, where the slightest gust of wind makes me wonder if it ever will warm above 50 degrees.


But it will. The temperature will rise. The days will get longer. We will celebrate Christmas and the birth of our glorious Savior, taking delight with the fact our children know the real reason for this magical season. We also smile in thinking of the T-ball bat under the tree for one son, the baseball glove under the tree for the other one. We know it won’t be long until the backyard is filled with the sounds of summer, even if the calendar says spring has yet to arrive.


And in time, spring will be here. It will be time for the music to play its annual song yet again, and we’ll tap our feet to its rhythm as baseball takes us on another journey through another season. This grand ol’ game, for all its flaws and self-inflicted wounds, continues its march. And we, those who love it so, sing right along.


The Scribe abides.








207 Responses to “6: Waiting for the music to begin again”

  1. 1 CL December 17, 2007 at 11:12 am

    Just superb, scribe!! Many thanks for a great post! 🙂


  2. 2 journalistjimmy December 17, 2007 at 11:17 am

    oh, the humanity! that was beautiful! but, no transition. needs transition. glad to have scribe blogging here with us. journalist can smell the peanuts roasting. soon, pitchers and catchers report. good post by scribe.

    soon, too, sealma hayek will be here – and maybe some more bloggers. carolina lady must be proud of so many hits. now, bloggers . . . come on over to bravesandstuff and post. some baseball, some stuff. toes, pie, dead animals, chipper, bobby cox, cookie guns, salad shooters, and more. and grinch used the handsome photo. good that grinch did (oh, the humanity!).

    and lew has a hard time getting on this blog? lew is stinky? nah.


  3. 3 lew614 December 17, 2007 at 11:35 am

    Just back from Kathy’s follow up visit on her ankle surgery. All went well and looks good. She’s in a boot and is taking wondrous drugs and sleeping well.

    Took snow pictures and will email the to the usual suspects later today. If I don’t have your email and you’re interested in seeing more than two feet of snow (accumulated-not all from yesterday), email me at lehartman@comcast.net and I’ll send them along when they are posted. Took the pictures with myself and Orca Dog for scale. Ddn’t even close the local roads, thought the few sidewalks are covered with four foot banks from the plowing.

    Jut finished a Cold Ring Finger portrait. Never will I be able to view Glavine without thinking of Cold Ring Finger. JJS, it has infiltrated my concious. Alo have a nice Chipper (no deer, dead or alive) and a nice Smoltz. McCann comes next. Wurlitzers will be widely available after Spring Training, where I hope to have dinner with Jason and his wife and meet Savannah GUy, Florida Braves Girl and others. Really looking forward to Orlando. Won’t mind seeing all my kids, either. Got two married couples now. I’m getting old.


  4. 4 lew614 December 17, 2007 at 11:36 am

    OOps- That’s lewhartman@comcast.net Can’t even spell my own name and I’m not even taking wondrous drugs.


  5. 5 lew614 December 17, 2007 at 11:39 am

    JJS-No. not Stinky. Stinky is not so bad, though. He just needs love. He has potential.


  6. 6 cardtraderchat December 17, 2007 at 11:59 am

    go yankees..lol
    Card Trader Chat


  7. 7 journalistjimmy December 17, 2007 at 12:25 pm

    good report on kathy. good news. lew should be busy for the next few days. and stinky seems well behaved with carolina lady in charge. and don’t forget this journalist at spring training. jimmy smith hopes to be there. and lew, how about the braves up the middle? concerned? jimmy smith remembers the old days and they were not always pretty.

    and carolina lady, would not let chipper hunt? face of the franchise.


  8. 8 arkansashillbilly December 17, 2007 at 12:31 pm

    Note to self: Never go hunting in the Carolina area.


  9. 9 savannahguy December 17, 2007 at 12:45 pm

    Scribe > What a great article and memorable story. You put into words what so many of us have felt for so many years. Saturday my wife and I drove slowly (traffic snarl) as we headed south, back home to Savannah. As we had more viewing time due to a much slower speed than the usual I-75 Daytona 500 past Turner Field, I got a good chance to study the stadium. It’s a nice vantage point.

    Having just seen Gladiator (for the umpteenth time) I suppose I was in a mindset to see the mammoth, empty stadium as a Coliseum where so many glorious battles had been fought. There were no lions, swords, chariots or lancers…no violence at all with the exception of the occasional chin music, hard-blocking slide at second to break up a double play or a runner nailing a catcher as he guarded the plate.

    With any imagination at all, you could almost hear leftover energy, like ghosts summer fans cheering their Braves on. The crowds seemed to roar as we drove past. Did Chipper hit a home run? Did Kelly round third on a base hit and slide safely home for the winning run? Did Glavine induce an inning ending double play grounder? Did Smoltz or Huddy blow away a batter to strike out the side?

    The rain was beating down like a monsoon as we crept past the stadium that day. Turner Field loomed like a giant, cold, lonely monolith to the glory of summer and man’s humane and glorious pastime. Perhaps I was just hearing the sounds of traffic on the wet road and not the faint sounds of cheering crowds. Perhaps…

    Thanks for the vision and the memories you shared. It was so well written that I felt as though I’d experienced a whole season with you. With your passion, it’s obvious that you do this for more than just a profession.


  10. 10 flbravesgirl December 17, 2007 at 12:45 pm

    Beautiful, Scribe. What is it about baseball that inspires such poetic writing? I understand how you feel. I watch every Braves’ game except for the handful not on TV & this time of year I don’t quite know what to do with myself when 7:30 rolls around. Fortunately for me, my “other” sport, skating, runs opposite of baseball season but it takes up much less of my time. It’s even worse for my dad, the biggest fan I know. One of his Christmas presents from me is a T-shirt with a picture of a baseball reading “Life begins when the season starts”. It’s as if it was made for him.

    Hi, Lew. I look forward to seeing you this spring… but be honest, is it meeting me or the potential cakes, cookies, brownies you’re anticipating?:-)


  11. 11 arkansashillbilly December 17, 2007 at 12:46 pm


    Regarding you question a couple of days ago about when Todd Pratt was linked with performance-enhancing substances:

    In 2000-2001 (With the Mets) Radomski made one or two sales of small amounts of anabolic steroids to Pratt.


  12. 12 lew614 December 17, 2007 at 12:52 pm

    Esteemed Journalist-Yes, hope to share pie in Orlando with you, as well. Grinch will also be staying at the Hartman residence for a week.

    Now,The Braves up the middle (how’s that for a transition, Oh Scribe?)-I’m not overly concerned. I think Kelly Johnson will be improved and having not worked so intensively all winter after rehabbing and missing a full season as last year, should be stronger and less fatigued by season’s end. We know he can hit. At shortstop, Yunel has considerablymore range and a much stronger arm than Edgar did. He is still somewhat erratic, much like a younger Furcal, but should actually be a defensive improvement over renteria, who should go down as one of the best Braves to ever play for the team. He will be missed, I’m sure on many levels.

    As far as center field-All of the younger players mentioned, Anderson, Scaffer, Blanco or Lillibridge are extremely fast runners and excellent defensive players. It is their bats that may be the main concern. Replacing Andruw’s defense may not be possible, but we did well before he came to town (we never won much of anything WITH him)-I think Grissom was almost as good. We will be fine up the middle.


  13. 13 CL December 17, 2007 at 12:53 pm

    Lew, a Smoltz?? 😉 Kathy’s medical report is super! Good news, indeed! It’s GOOD to see you here! 🙂

    Hillbilly, even the animals know they’re safe here. Nope, no hunting except with a camera and then there are some incredible shots to be made! 🙂

    jjs, I’m concerned about who the new CF will be. Sure hope McCann is getting himself in shape, too. Maybe the new bride is still learning to cook and he’ll return with a smaller waistline!


  14. 14 arkansashillbilly December 17, 2007 at 12:56 pm

    Lew, I agree. As strongly as Kelly picked up on the 2b position in general last winter, I think improving on that one particular flaw (to his right) shouldn’t be too difficult. I think the Braves will be fine up the middle. It’s behind the plate that I’m more concerned about.


  15. 15 lew614 December 17, 2007 at 12:58 pm

    FlBraves Girl-No, I would like to meet you. My diet recently (lost 35 pounds this year), precludes cake. Pie, if whole grain flour is used for the crust, could be compensated for. Mainly eating high protein and lots of green veggies and salads. Even gave up the salad dressing in favor of Balsamic Vinegar. Boring. But healthy. My blood sugar is excellent and my cholestoral is 142. My toe healed and my eye is not getting any worse. My Doctor wants me to write a book about diabetic control and supplementation and wants me to talk to other patients. Apparently I am a success story-just fat from the medical cocktail I am forced to take to maintain. Life is good, but covered with snow.


  16. 16 arkansashillbilly December 17, 2007 at 1:01 pm

    CL, you should get one of these trail cameras if you want some super shots. I use mine for scouting purposes and also during the off-season just to enjoy the amazing pics. You’d be surprised what goes on in the woods after dark while we’re all laid up snoring (or gallivanting around in Grinch’s case.)


  17. 17 Bob, journalist December 17, 2007 at 1:02 pm

    Top of the morning SSIScribe … tough assignment following the hard hitting Chop Seal … never easy to follow a legend, but you done real good … great post!

    Gil, my 3:25 am post on Braves and Stuff was an ill fated attempt to show a good Zamfir UTube video … which evidently can only be done in a post and not in a comment. Hopefully, My Lady can delete that comment and perhaps edit/fix some of other faux pas.

    Lew, I’ve long agreed both privately and publicly with you on that appraisal of Stinky, but Andruw also once had great potential as a hitter … thankfully, it’s not to late for Stinky.


  18. 18 lew614 December 17, 2007 at 1:04 pm

    Ma’am-I never left, I just couldn’t get here for some technical reason. Been talking to The Grinch on an almost daily basis.

    Have no fear. I have not forgotten your Smoltz drawing. I will have it for you after ST-I’ll try to get him to sign it for you, first. See, DOB has his uses-access. That and I’m already in Bobby Dews’ good graces for the Hemingway and will illustrate one of his stories and give him the drawing at ST. We will also try to present Skip’s Wurlitzer at ST.


  19. 19 Bob, journalist December 17, 2007 at 1:07 pm

    My Lady, not to worry … I have it on good authority that while McCann can, he isn’t … interested in the centerfield position.


  20. 20 journalistjimmy December 17, 2007 at 1:09 pm

    there! there it is! “My toe healed and my eye is not getting any worse. ” that pretty much says it all. as go the toes, so goes the artist. toes are not to be trifled with. and flbravesgirl, need not worry. this journalist thinks lew would eat any cookie shot lew’s way. and carolina lady is researching some zamfir lyrics so this can be a music blog, too. then, bravesandstuff will pretty much have supplanted all other blogs. does zamfir wear a cowboy hat? zamfir alive? dead? with aaron giraffe? song and dance? oh, the humanity! jimmy smith thinks up the middle includes catcher, pitcher, ss, 2b, and cf. needs some work in the opinion of this journalist.


  21. 21 flbravesgirl December 17, 2007 at 1:10 pm

    Thanks, Lew. Sounds like you have more willpower than most. Congratulations. I guess you’ll have to watch Grinch eat since he seems interested in pretty much everything I make.

    Hillbilly, thanks for checking that. At least it wasn’t during his Braves season.

    CL, now you’re picking on poor Brian too! Good thing he’s not married to me. 😉


  22. 22 savannahguy December 17, 2007 at 1:28 pm

    Carolina Lady > Don’t you need a special license to hunt hunters? Oh, the humanity! Well placed bird shot can indeed cause a stray hunter leave your ranch quickly. As Forest Gump might say, aim for the butt-ocks. ; )

    Lew > Would love to see your snow pics. There’s snow business like, uh, snow business. This old southern boy will most likely not be able to get to the snow this winter, so will enjoy it vicariously through your lense. Oh, as I’ve mentioned to you privately…please do write the diabetic control book. Your words can change and save lives. And you probably already know someone that could illustrate the cover!

    Arkansas > Good to see you’ve returned from and with the Dark Side of The Moon. You are a wise man not to stalk deer on the Lady’s property. She may not know it’s you and you’ll need tweezers to remove the little pellets.

    Bob, Journalist > Hope the lengthy Fly-Mitchell Steroid Report didn’t slow or crash your web site over there! I was afraid it might add the last straw to an already slowed P-4 here. Sometimes that little fly just gets on a roll. Can’t stop him when he’s got a buzz going…uh, reporting buzz.


  23. 23 lew614 December 17, 2007 at 1:40 pm

    FlBravesGirl-Not will power-just the will to live and perhaps see Grandchildren. Three years ago I went to the Doctor with gangrene in my toe and the bone protruding-hadn’t even felt that it had been cut. In 40+ years of practice, my Podiatrist had never seen one that bad that he had not amputated. The infection was so bad it could have killed me. I was on super strength antibiotics for over a year. Since the osteomyelytis (bone infection) had not spread, he decided to wait on amputation. It took 2 1/2 years and much personal research about supplementation and alternate courses of therapy to improve circulation and to (hopefully) rid myself of profound neuropathy. Having a Doctor who actually respects his patient’s thoughts helped considerably. I have gone from being able to walk only 1/4 m,ile in a day to walking 1 1/2 miles EACH day-with no more limp. Saying the simple words that “my toe has healed” is considerably more profound than it sounds on the surface.

    With massive doses of B Vitamins and an exercise regimen that I devised, he declared the toe completely healed several months ago-I am the first patient he has ever seen this happen to and they are thinking of writing a case study. I used to have complete numbness in my feet and legs up to mid calf. Now I have feeling on the soles of my feet and the horrendous feelings from the neuropathy have disappeared-at least up to 90%. My Doctor has already begun to implement my exercise program and to advocate B Vitamin Therapy-all because of your’s truly. The Esteemed Journalist never said a truer thing-Toes are NOT to be trifled with-especially mine.


  24. 24 lew614 December 17, 2007 at 1:43 pm

    It would be good for the Grinch to not hunt on CL’s property either. Might be mistaken for a bear (if he has his beard again). Wouldn’t want to shoot the Grinch. Maybe he should wear the Yellow Clown Shoes for indentification purposes?


  25. 25 flbravesgirl December 17, 2007 at 2:12 pm

    Lew, that is absolutely amazing. Write the book. My dad may need it at some point.

    I don’t think Grinch is wearing a full beard these days. He recently mentioned finding a picture in which he looked like a member of ZZTop though.


  26. 26 lew614 December 17, 2007 at 2:21 pm

    FLBravesGirl-Still just to be on the safe side, the Yellow Clown Shoes would be a good idea.

    AS for your Dad, I would be more than willing to give him any information right now that would help him. Just email and I’d be happy to answer any questions he might have. I’ve been diabetic for over 20 years and on insulin for almost 17. I’ve been on amost every medication they have devised and know more about nutrition and vitamin supplementation than most Doctors-many of whom are and idiot. There are several very beneficial vitamins he needs to take now. A diabetic can’t make it just on Flintstones or a multi vitamin. Email me.


  27. 27 bonanner December 17, 2007 at 2:30 pm

    Hello, I am Sealma and I look forward to blogging here. I enjoy the company of journalists and seals. I also like baseball. Did I mention that I like journalists? I cannot stay long today because I have some shopping to do but I will come back soon to blog some baseball and some stuff. Where can I buy a cookie gun?


  28. 28 sealmahayek December 17, 2007 at 2:41 pm

    not bo nanner, sealma. oh, the humanity! this blog is too hard for jimmy smith! two embarrassing bo nanner posts already! sealma doesn’t look like a bo nanner, does she? journalist is pretty sure grinch will want to blog with her. baby seal is infatuated and that doesn’t even describe what has happened to jimmy smith. tonight, sealma has promised to shoot jimmy smith with cookies! cannot end up in the mitchell report for that, right? and now, transition to baseball . . . mccann’s cans should be seated behind the plate next season. this would be helpful to mccann. also, less foul territory next season and mccann should enjoy having close cans. can say that, carolina lady?


  29. 29 sealmahayek December 17, 2007 at 2:42 pm

    Let’s start over. My name is Sealma . . .


  30. 30 mrgil December 17, 2007 at 2:42 pm

    Oh the humility…. After only four post, mine included, entire blog left with all denizens to a new page. Missed a well thought out response to JJS probing questions concerning 2008 Braves squad “up the middle”. If I wanted to be ignored or unread I could just post on the Chop Chick’s blog page. 🙂

    Lew, glad to hear of your good outcome. So many doctors would just opt for the surgeon’s knife.

    sscribe, kudos for your usual excellent work. SG, I slipped over to Bob, J’s site to read your latest Fly Reporter interview, I must say it was one of your best.

    And I still think Bob, J could give young Kelly Johnson a lesson or two on how to move to the right. I understand Brian Schneider, recently of the Nationals was very conservative in his political views and it was rumored to be one of the reasons for his trade to New York by the Washington club. He would have been a big hit in Atlanta I would think.


  31. 31 mrgil December 17, 2007 at 2:46 pm

    bonanner looks a lot like luci mellons……


  32. 32 Bob, journalist December 17, 2007 at 3:20 pm

    Sir Guy, the Fly is always welcome … surely there is a simple way to associate different avatars with different masks … though I know not what it is. When time permits, I’ll restructure so that such reports can be made as posts on a special page … rather than as comments.

    Methinks my personal views on the whole matter are scattered among the comments on Braves and Stuff but I’d personally like to see a list of those who actually refused to assist the Mitchell Investigation … whatever that means … and the reasons given for the refusals.

    While I don’t totally agree with the notion that those who have knowingly cheated or … taken advantage of a flawed and/or corrupt system … should be forgiven, I do concur with the notion that MLB, individual team ownerships, agents, player’s union, media and the power brokers within organizations “funding” the sport/business of baseball are more responsible than are the individual players themselves.


  33. 33 berigan2electricboogaloo December 17, 2007 at 3:21 pm

    scribe, man just beautiful!!!!! 🙂 I am going to go a googling, just make sure you didn’t plagiarize someone like Joe Biden! 😉


  34. 34 berigan2electricboogaloo December 17, 2007 at 3:23 pm

    2 blogs in one day??? I can’t keep up!!!
    And on a serious note, between posts last night and today, it’s clear a lot of bloggers have better halves that are ailing a bit. My thoughts and prayers go out to you all, that 2008 and beyond will be much healthier!


  35. 35 berigan2electricboogaloo December 17, 2007 at 3:28 pm

    And I don’t want Lew to get medievil on my….behind, but…IF money wasn’t an issue(And the fact that Edmonds wanted to be on the west coast) wouldn’t Edmonds have been an interesting choice for just one year??? You know he wouldn’t play much more than 110 games, and even in an off year, he still hit 30 points higher than Andruw did….and he would be a good teacher for the other future CF’ers…plus, he could teach them how to make easy catches look hard! 😉


  36. 36 berigan2electricboogaloo December 17, 2007 at 3:29 pm

    apparently, there is no evil in medieval….


  37. 37 Bob, journalist December 17, 2007 at 3:32 pm

    Gil, such flattery will get you nothing … I’m very liberal and support things like equal pay for equal work … just never have been able to find examples of equal work … everybody brings something different to the table.


  38. 38 howdy December 17, 2007 at 3:43 pm

    This avatar thing really isn’t so hard after all. FBG and Lew better get busy and come up with some photos. As for me, I think I will stick to this one. Like my chiseled features?

    Berigan must remember that Edmonds is coming off toe surgery. One can never tell if a toe has turned for the better or the worse until that toe is placed on the ballfield and asked to perform.

    I’d like to see Phineas Bluster in center field next year. Maybe Frank can pull some strings and get him here.


  39. 39 berigan2electricboogaloo December 17, 2007 at 3:45 pm

    Did you all know that Lew’s avatar is not the generic one you get when you first join up, but an actual photo of him standing outside during the blizzard???


  40. 40 savannahguy December 17, 2007 at 3:46 pm

    Esteemed Bob, Journalist > Knowing you pretty well, I would imagine that Mr. Fly and myself would most likely agree on many or most of the right and wrong of the steroid issue. It’s an extremely complex issue that is complicated further by so many guilty parties.

    The Daily Buzz tried to deal with the issue from a little different perspective than those seen around Blogville east, west, north and south. No doubt Fly could have gone on and on to clarify certain aspects…but then we would have had a Fly report that rivaled the Mitchell report in length.

    The bottom line I believe is this: right or wrong, legal, technical or philosophical, sometimes we have to fix what was broken and move forward. Looking back or dragging out an endless inquisition with resulting court battles will not achieve anything useful at the end of the day.

    Was Nixon right to not challenge the vote results in the Kennedy election? Was Gore right in not continuing to challenge the election? Nixon did the honorable thing and accepted defeat as to not throw the country into chaos. Gore was a less honorable story, yet had the same outcome.

    That’s how I see the whole steroid affair. Will proper justice be served by dragging this this through courts for the next five years? I think not. Will some guilty cheaters get off light? Probably. Sad but true it is. Will some innocent players be tarnished by the overall scandalous years that they played? Sad but true again I fear.

    The steroid fix is not to be found in the rear view mirror. The fix is in the dedication to finding advanced technical testing, education and meaningful follow through by the MLB. Then we might see a level playing field in 08 without using a bulldozer to accomplish it.


  41. 41 lew614 December 17, 2007 at 3:50 pm

    Berigan-I never was sold on Edmonds being as good as his reputation might make him seem. For him to have been voted into the all time defensive team to the exclusion of Andruw was absurd in the extreme.

    Given how much everyone gripes about the time Chipper msses, do you think the hue (don’t you just love different uses for art terms?) and cry will be when he misses 50 games? Besides, were he to miss 1/3 of the season, one of those rookies so many are so upset about would be in the lineup, anyway. Don’t see the use in picking him upo, $$$ or no. Makes barely more sense than picking up Mark Prior-which would make someone and idiot.

    Medieval? Aganst you? Never. Peace, Love and Never ending Pleasantness. May you receive Christmas Visions of Unicorns, Drummer Boys and SugarPlums (what ever THEY may be).


  42. 42 lew614 December 17, 2007 at 3:52 pm

    Howdy-Yes. Princess SummerFallWinterSpring would make a good substitue for KnockAHoma (cousins?).


  43. 43 berigan2electricboogaloo December 17, 2007 at 3:52 pm

    You know, if anyone else uses Selma as their avatar , I’m gonna start thinking she should be our center fielder! We know she is in good shape, surely she wouldn’t hit worse than .169 with runners in scoring position….and just to watch her run…say, in that bikini…..sorry! 😦 It’s not my fault ladies of the blog, other people brought her up first!!!


  44. 44 lew614 December 17, 2007 at 3:53 pm

    Berigan_Yes, we Caucasians do tend to blend with blizzards. The very gray hair helps, too.


  45. 45 berigan2electricboogaloo December 17, 2007 at 3:54 pm

    sugar plums are fairies I think….not that there is anything wrong with that!


  46. 46 berigan2electricboogaloo December 17, 2007 at 3:57 pm

    Finally, a fight!!! Jim Edmonds…oh never mind….we just better not take a chance on Cameron last minute, I’d rather have Edmonds….


  47. 47 mrgil December 17, 2007 at 4:09 pm

    My better half and I had a discussion over lunch about the whole steroids issue and MLB. As is the norm, she made some very good points about steroids and how it has such a detrimental long term affect on the body and why doctors restrict its use to three injections when treating joint injuries.

    The main point being that steroids have a very harmful affect on the bones. Anyone remember the name of the pitcher for San Francisco who broke his arm while making a pitch several years ago?

    It would make sense as to why so many players have become brittle over the years. The sad thing is the number of high school kids who feel compelled to take steroids in order to compete. Of course, that could be an entirely new topic all on its own.

    Most honorable Bob, J. I would love to get into a political discussion with you sometime. I might tease you once in a while but you might be very surprised at my political leanings. However, out of respect for the Lady of Carolina I will not engage with you on such topics on her site. Not going to hunt on her property either come to think of it. I would be too easy a target……


  48. 48 lew614 December 17, 2007 at 4:16 pm

    The Braves just signed Javy Lopez to a minor league contract. He will compete for the job as McCann’s back up and a RH pinch hitting role.


  49. 49 mrgil December 17, 2007 at 4:16 pm

    “Christmas Visions of Unicorns, Drummer Boys and SugarPlums (what ever THEY may be).”

    Last time that happened to me was right after the mushrooms…… or maybe the bad shrimp….. can’t remember, it was all a blizzard to me.:-)


  50. 50 lew614 December 17, 2007 at 4:17 pm

    Berigan-Actually, I have always gotten the impression that sugar plums are an outdated form of confection and the Faeries just kind of like the vendors (not that there’s anything wrong with that).


  51. 51 lew614 December 17, 2007 at 4:19 pm

    Oh!!The Humanity. Mushrooms. OH!! The Mushrooms. Little white things with gold circles on the top and little purple collars. Oh!!!! The mushrooms.


  52. 52 arkansashillbilly December 17, 2007 at 4:19 pm


    Dave Dravecky


  53. 53 arkansashillbilly December 17, 2007 at 4:20 pm

    “Oh!!The Humanity. Mushrooms. OH!! The Mushrooms. Little white things with gold circles on the top and little purple collars. Oh!!!! The mushrooms.”

    My, oh my. Do I need to get rid of the Pink Floyd avatar for you two?


  54. 54 mrgil December 17, 2007 at 4:22 pm

    and this just in….. Braves have singed Javy Lopez to a minor league contract with an invite to spring training…. http://www.ajc.com/sports/content/sports/braves/stories/2007/12/17/lopez_1218.html


  55. 55 mrgil December 17, 2007 at 4:24 pm

    Hey…. They are not as fattening as the brownies….


  56. 56 lew614 December 17, 2007 at 4:26 pm

    Gil-The brownies never worked, but OH!!!The mushrooms.


  57. 57 savannahguy December 17, 2007 at 4:37 pm

    Gil > Just saw your compliment on the Daily Buzz. Thanks. I’ll pass that along to the little fella too.

    Not to speak for Bob, I think you’ll find that, unlike Nascar drivers…Journalist keeps his right hand blinker on at all times. That may be why neither of us race…too many wall crashes and such…


  58. 58 savannahguy December 17, 2007 at 4:41 pm

    Talk of mushrooms, unicorns and brownies…yikes. I may have to pull my Mr. Natural avatar out again and put on some Hendrix if this keeps up.


  59. 59 CL December 17, 2007 at 4:45 pm

    Javy?? I thought he was done.

    You know, if I had umpty-million dollars in the bank, I don’t think I’d embarrass myself by trying out for a low-level job. Why do they do it??

    I’m sitting here trying my best to remember who, if anybody, plays SS next year. Yunel? Wow, too much has been going on in my world. Is help on the way?



  60. 60 arkansashillbilly December 17, 2007 at 4:46 pm

    Are the Braves trying to field the most beautiful roster in the league? Moylan’s future is none too bright if that’s the case. I don’t know about y’all’s regions of the nation, but in South Arkansas the women swoon over:

    Kelly Johnson

    Conspiracy? Fill more seats? More women in the stands? Maybe more men? Not that there’s anything wrong with that.


  61. 61 CL December 17, 2007 at 4:48 pm

    Just received this in email:

    by Michael Marks

    I had no Christmas spirit when I breathed a weary sigh,
    And looked across the table where the bills were piled too high.

    The laundry wasn’t finished and the car I had to fix,
    My stocks were down another point, the Chargers lost by six.

    And so with only minutes till my son got home from school
    I gave up on the drudgery and grabbed a wooden stool.

    The burdens that I carried were about all I could take,
    And so I flipped the TV on to catch a little break.

    I came upon a desert scene in shades of tan and rust,
    No snowflakes hung upon the wind, just clouds of swirling dust.

    And where the reindeer should have stood before a laden sleigh,
    Eight Humvees ran a column right behind an M1A.

    A group of boys walked past the tank, not one was past his teens
    Their eyes were hard as polished flint, their faces drawn and lean.

    They walked the street in armor with their rifles shouldered tight,
    Their dearest wish for Christmas, just to have a silent night.

    Other soldiers gathered, hunkered down against the wind,
    To share a scrap of mail and dreams of going home again

    There wasn’t much at all to put their lonely hearts at ease,
    They had no Christmas turkey, just a pack of MREs.

    They didn’t have a garland or a stocking I could see,
    They didn’t need an ornament–they lacked a Christmas tree.

    They didn’t have a present even though it was tradition,
    The only boxes I could see were labeled ‘ammunition.’

    I felt a little tug and found my son now by my side,
    He asked me what it was I feared, and why it was I cried.

    I swept him up into my arms and held him oh so near
    And kissed him on the forehead as I whispered in his ear.

    ‘There’s nothing wrong, my little son, for safe we sleep tonight
    Our heroes stand on foreign land to give us all the right,

    To worry on the things in life that mean nothing at all,
    Instead of wondering if we will be the next to fall.’

    He looked at me as children do and said, ‘it’s always right,
    To thank the ones who help us and perhaps that we should write.’

    And so we pushed aside the bills and sat to draft a note,
    To thank the many far from home, and this is what we wrote:

    ‘God bless you all and keep you safe, and speed your way back home.
    Remember that we love you so, and that you’re not alone.

    The gift you give you share with all, a present every day,
    You give the gift of liberty and that we can’t repay.’


  62. 62 arkansashillbilly December 17, 2007 at 4:48 pm


    I’d like to think they hang on for love of the game, but I have my doubts.


  63. 63 CL December 17, 2007 at 4:53 pm

    “but ….. the women swoon over:

    Kelly Johnson

    No, Hillbilly. Look at me and FBG – we’ve got it made! Just the 2 of us and all of you guys! And a seal. Doesn’t get any better than that! 🙂


  64. 64 berigan2electricboogaloo December 17, 2007 at 4:55 pm

    Gil, Dave Dravecky had Cancer in the bone of his arm, and damage from freezing the bone(and removing part of a muscle) eventually lead to his arm breaking….He is a Christian motivational speaker these days….


  65. 65 CL December 17, 2007 at 4:58 pm

    Recall that Jay Powell’s arm broke while pitching for the Braves. I often wondered where he is now. That was so terrible to witness!


  66. 66 berigan2electricboogaloo December 17, 2007 at 5:01 pm

    I am not by nature a bleeding heart at all…but, I think as much as we love the game, to play it…and make great money at it…there has to be a tremendous pull get, then stay with the big show.
    I heard on the radio the other day, someone say that there was a poll of Olympic athletes asking them if they could take a drug that would guarantee a gold medal, but….would leave them dead in 5 years, 80% said they would!!!!!


  67. 67 mrgil December 17, 2007 at 5:04 pm

    I look at it this way, giving Javy a go at backing up McCann really has no downside unless he is just flat out done. Everybody has a bad year in Baltimore, goes with being on a last place team.

    Gives the Braves a right handed bat off the bench and 37 is not exactly over the hill. He can play a bit of first base too. Better than Thorman actually. Going to be a fun spring training.


  68. 68 Bob, journalist December 17, 2007 at 5:04 pm

    Gil, Sir Guy my comments were not intended to stir political discussion or debate on Braves and Stuff … just what I hope was a considered humorous reaction to Gil’s association with me and the Right and the Fly’s unbiased reporting. … both of which were enjoyed and appreciated!

    Gil, we all wear masks, and about the only ones we really fool are ourselves but, much benefit can come from understanding one’s politics and perhaps a proper forum for that too can be found … the only thing I know about politics is that only those who get elected have much chance of getting their agendas effected … unless of course, they own the ones who do.

    I stir-fried mushrooms in redeye gravy this morning … tasted better than sousemeat in vinegar!!


  69. 69 mrgil December 17, 2007 at 5:10 pm

    We know Bob, we are just having a little fun at your expense. We also know it is just a vicious rumor that you had “right hand” drive installed in the Seville… 🙂


  70. 70 Bob, journalist December 17, 2007 at 5:22 pm

    Insidious rumors, all started by Dave O’Brien no doubt, but what I did while we were in Spain is best left in Las Vegas!


  71. 71 Bob, journalist December 17, 2007 at 5:29 pm

    Little girls maybe … but do women really swoon over Hoss?


  72. 72 mrgil December 17, 2007 at 5:34 pm

    One last political comment and I will leave the topic alone. I only have one rule when discussing politics. That being that if you cannot name and do not know either the e-mail address or phone number of your councilman, supervisor, alderman, selectman or what ever title one might have for their local representative, I will not take you seriously because these are the people who directly affect your everyday life. Personal property taxes, zonings, real estate assessments and just about everything else that affects you day to day begins on the local level. 🙂

    Now back to our regularly scheduled programing… (CL, just consider the above as stuff)


  73. 73 joebrave65 December 17, 2007 at 6:31 pm

    Good Evenin,Everyone,Lew,and mushrooms,Oh!the humanity!!lol,I really wonder,when the 90’s love affair will end??Javy Lopez:you’re kidding me right!!
    And where oh where is SJA with his take on Javelito!!!!!!
    Me,I is ready for the Big Day!!!!!Christmas,with all joe’s little kiddies runnin wild!!! I love it ,and life too!!!!!!

    JJS,I want to know if you got my Christmas list???? I was told by baby seal,that You were actually Santa Claus>>>>If that’s so All I want for Christmas,is Joe Blanton,and Cory Sullivan……


  74. 74 berigan2electricboogaloo December 17, 2007 at 6:46 pm

    SJA goes under a new handle here….sweetmarysunshine, or something like that! 😉 Seriously, I forget, just like Grinch’s new one, just won’t stick. Nor Salty’s


  75. 75 CL December 17, 2007 at 6:47 pm

    Gil, you make a good point. I not only know mine, they know my email address by sight! 🙂

    Hi, JoeBrave! Glad the kids are doing so much better!!


  76. 76 flbravesgirl December 17, 2007 at 6:58 pm

    Yeah, CL, but they only love me for my cooking.

    Hillbilly, I personally swoon over McCann but then I try to not be just like everyone else.


  77. 77 lew614 December 17, 2007 at 7:02 pm

    Just sent out snow pictures. Hope I didn’t miss anyone.

    If Javy can produce as a pinch hitter with power, he is signed for $750,000-IF he makes the Braves. Pretty cheap if he contributes, not too expensive if he doesn’t. Can’t be any worse than Craig Wilson. Besides, I still have an unsigned Javy drawing and he’s real good about signing.


  78. 78 lew614 December 17, 2007 at 7:04 pm

    Ma’am-With all due respect, anyone swooning over me is in serious trouble-and likely ready to scrape the barrell’s bottom. You certainly will never see me on the cover of People Magazine. You’re better off with a Seal.


  79. 79 CL December 17, 2007 at 7:07 pm

    Not so, FBG; they loved you before they found out you are a superior cook! ‘Cook’ doesn’t do justice to the level you have attained! 🙂

    SJA is known as John here. Where is he, anyway?? Will John report in, please?!


  80. 80 CL December 17, 2007 at 7:13 pm

    Lew, if you can’t give the Javy portrait away, I know somebody who would love to have it! Kelly! She has a tiny collection of things special to her, which includes baseballs signed by DJustice and CJones.

    I taught her US geography by putting a great big map on the kitchen wall and putting colored pins in the cities where the Braves would play. Then we read up on those cities and states. Blockbuster Video had a section of travelogue-type things that they loaned for free. Made a great teaching tool!


  81. 81 CL December 17, 2007 at 7:25 pm

    Lew, I haven’t gotten the snow pictures. May I have them, please? 🙂


  82. 82 savannahguy December 17, 2007 at 7:34 pm

    NEW RULES FOR 2008

    Some of you may have seen this before. George Carlin wrote it, changed the year, edited it just a tad (cleaned up bannable language) and thought you might get a kick out of some of these:

    1) No more gift registries. You know, it used to be just for weddings. Now it’s for babies and new homes and graduations from rehab. Picking out the stuff you want and having other people buy it for you isn’t gift giving, it’s the white people version of looting.

    2) Stop giving me that pop-up ad for classmates.com ! There’s a reason you don’t talk to people for 25 years. Because you don’t particularly like them! Besides, I already know what the captain of the football team is doing these days — mowing my lawn.

    3) Don’t eat anything that’s served to you out a window unless you’re a seagull. People are acting all shocked that a human finger was found in a bowl of Wendy’s chili. Hey, it cost less than a dollar. What did you expect it to contain? Lobster?

    4) If you need to shave and you still collect baseball cards, you’re a dope. If you’re a kid, the cards are keepsakes of your idols. If you’re a grown man, they’re pictures of men.

    5) Ladies, leave your eyebrows alone. Here’s how much men care about your eyebrows: Do you have two of them? Good, we’re done.

    6) There’s no such thing as flavored water. There’s a whole aisle of this crap at the supermarket. It’s water, but, without that watery taste. Sorry, but flavored water is called a soft drink. You want flavored water? Pour some scotch over ice and let it melt. That’s your flavored water.

    7) Stop screwing with old people. Target is introducing a redesigned pill bottle that’s square, with a bigger label. And the top is now the bottom. And by the time grandpa figures out how to open it, his ass will be in the morgue. Congratulations, Target, you just solved the Social Security crisis.

    8) The more complicated the Starbucks order, the bigger the asshole. If you walk into a Starbucks and order a ‘decaf grandee, half-soy, half-low fat, iced vanilla, double-shot, gingerbread cappuccino, extra dry, light ice, with one Sweet-n’-Low, and One NutraSweet,’ ooooh, you’re a huge jerk.

    9) I’m not the cashier! By the time I look up from sliding my card, entering My PIN number, pressing ‘Enter,’ verifying the amount, deciding, no, I don’t want Cash back, and pressing ‘Enter’ again, the kid who is supposed to be ringing me up is standing there eating my Almond Joy.

    10) Just because your tattoo has Chinese characters in it doesn’t make you Spiritual. It’s right above the crack of your ass. And it translates to ‘beef with broccoli.’ The last time you did anything spiritual, you were praying to God you weren’t pregnant. You’re not spiritual. You’re just high.

    11) Competitive eating isn’t a sport. It’s one of the seven deadly sins. ESPN Recently televised the U.S. Open of Competitive Eating, because watching those athletes at the poker table was just too damned exciting. What’s next, competitive farting? Oh wait, they’re already doing that. It’s called ‘The Howard Stern Show.’

    12) I don’t need a bigger mega M&Ms. If I’m extra hungry for M&Ms, I’ll go nuts and eat two.

    13) If you’re going to insist on making movies based on crappy old television shows, then you have to give everyone in the Cineplex a remote so we can see what’s playing on the other screens. Let’s remember the reason something was a television show in the first place is that the idea wasn’t good enough to be a movie.

    14) And this one is long overdue: No more bathroom attendants. After I zip up, some guy is offering me a towel and a mint like I just had sex with George Michael. I can’t even tell if he’s supposed to be there, or just some freak with a fetish. I don’t want to be on your webcam, Dude. I just want to wash my hands

    15) When I ask how old your toddler is, I don’t need to hear ’27 months.’ ‘He’s two’ will do just fine. He’s not a cheese. And I didn’t really care in the first place.

    16) If you ever hope to be a credible adult and want a job that pays better than Minimum wage, then for God’s sake don’t pierce or tattoo every available piece of flesh. If so, then plan your future around saying, ‘Do you want fries with that?


  83. 84 savannahguy December 17, 2007 at 7:40 pm

    A smiley face with sunglasses instead of an 8 with half paren? Did I finally inadvertently figure out smiley faces? Oh, my…

    Maybe now I can link since I added software:



  84. 85 arkansashillbilly December 17, 2007 at 7:40 pm

    “Little girls maybe … but do women really swoon over Hoss?”

    Bob, J.
    My wife does.


  85. 86 lew614 December 17, 2007 at 7:43 pm

    Ma’am-Your email address was the first on the list. If it isn’t there it should be soon.


  86. 87 flbravesgirl December 17, 2007 at 7:48 pm

    I was never too excited about Chipper’s looks but my mom thinks he’s really cute.


  87. 88 savannahguy December 17, 2007 at 7:49 pm

    Jason > Pretty funny link there. Not sure Mitchell should be Santa though. More like Grinch (not our good Grinch mind you). It’s only just begun…


  88. 89 CL December 17, 2007 at 7:53 pm

    Way to go, SG! Great post by Carlin. Hey, you found a new face!! 8)

    Jason, that was funny!!

    Thanks, Lew! Guess it’s just slow tonight.


  89. 90 CL December 17, 2007 at 7:54 pm

    I agree, FBG; CJ isn’t my cup of tea, either.

    Where is Grinch?


  90. 91 howdy December 17, 2007 at 7:58 pm

    I hope my photo appears with this post. Maybe Carolina Lady can pull some strings for me. Anyway, it is good to see so many bloggers blogging here. Javing Javy can’t hurt anything but somebody’s feelings – and it’s probably going to be Javy’s. I asked Buffalo Bob what he thinks and all he would say is. “methinks it makes no difference” – at least I think it was Buffalo Bob. Somebody wake up Grinch for some blogging. And Chipper could be a marionette as easy as me. Wooden heads are wooden heads.


  91. 92 howdy December 17, 2007 at 8:16 pm

    testing. testing. avatar test. should be howdy doody. howdy is not built like sealma hayek. now, bring back ron gant. liebrandt, too. nothing like liebrandt out of the pen. well, maybe reardon out of the pen or perhaps farnsworth. oh, that pen has been ugly hasn’t it? and is javy smart like chipper? and who will bat fifth in the braves lineup?


  92. 93 mrgil December 17, 2007 at 8:55 pm

    Sealma suddenly looks like Howdy…… I like it better the other way.


  93. 94 savannahguy December 17, 2007 at 9:05 pm

    CL > “THE SANDS OF CHRISTMAS”…Priceless. Chill bump stuff.


    Berigan and Gil > Are those pictures of you?

    flbravesgirl > Ironic how much you and Lew and Jason look alike. Brothers and sister? Or Lew and Jason covered in snow and FBG covered in flour?


  94. 95 mrgil December 17, 2007 at 9:07 pm

    Yes SG… It is I. The one of the tractor too when it shows up.


  95. 96 savannahguy December 17, 2007 at 9:16 pm

    Gil, and a fine avatar it is…although with the picture size and my increasingly bad eyesight, it’s hard to make out much detail. For all I knew it could have been Brad Pitt in a Braves cap…or Bobby Cox for that matter. It’s kinda fun to play around with the pics a bit. Wish the size was just a skosh bigger.


  96. 97 CL December 17, 2007 at 9:22 pm

    SG and Jason, great posts both of you on Bob J’s blog! REally enjoyed reading them!


  97. 98 mrgil December 17, 2007 at 9:24 pm

    Well, not Brad Pitt… and I didn’t think my fingers showed.:-)


  98. 99 CL December 17, 2007 at 9:24 pm

    SG, I’ve heard that birthday cake is really bad for your eyes and a lot of other things. The more you eat of it, the worse it gets! Stuff oughtta be banned! 8)


  99. 100 CL December 17, 2007 at 9:25 pm

    Quite a handsome avatar, Gil! (And that was funny!)


  100. 101 howdy December 17, 2007 at 9:28 pm

    savannah, see if this looks like sealma or like howdy doody. having a hard time with these avatars. seal of approval received for sealma but not sure about howdy. and what time is it?


  101. 102 mrgil December 17, 2007 at 9:29 pm

    Okay, having too much fun. Time to give it up for the night. See ya’ll tomorrow… 🙂


  102. 103 CL December 17, 2007 at 9:36 pm



  103. 104 howdy December 17, 2007 at 9:54 pm

    Correct! Howdy Doody Time! Then why is Sealma Hayek’s picture appearing for Howdy Doody posts? Even Chipper could have had this fixed by now. Carolina Lady, what is wrong here?


  104. 105 savannahguy December 17, 2007 at 10:19 pm

    seal of approval received for sealma but not sure about howdy.

    Howdy is there. Sealma is gone…sigh.

    and what time is it?



  105. 106 CL December 17, 2007 at 10:20 pm

    Howdy, I think it could be a problem with a loose nut….. 🙂


  106. 107 savannahguy December 17, 2007 at 10:25 pm

    Howdy Doody was a favorite when just a tiny little lad. Wish they would bring back him, Rin-Tin-Tin and Sky King. Three classics.


  107. 108 mrgil December 17, 2007 at 11:34 pm

    “Wish the size was just a skosh bigger.” Yeah SG… My wife tells me that all the time… Sigh….:p)


  108. 109 mrgil December 17, 2007 at 11:50 pm

    This is a link to a very good article by Thomas Boswell of the Washington Post concerning the fall out of the Mitchell Report.



  109. 110 mrgil December 18, 2007 at 12:36 am

    And for you folks who still cannot get enough about our prospects, this is a link to a blog site I found while searching for information on Jeff Bennett. Funny thing, he says much the same things I have about various players. Most interesting comments about Doug Clark. Appears also that Gregor Blanco is determined to become a major leaguer. He also mentioned Alexis, funny. I don’t remember anyone saying a word about him until I mentioned him on a DOB blog one afternoon.



  110. 111 mrgil December 18, 2007 at 12:47 am

    Okay Bob….. Close her out for the night….. Also John’s sight is down again. Rats…..


  111. 112 lew614 December 18, 2007 at 1:00 am

    Sky King and His Niece Penny-Brought to you by Nabisco. On Saturday mornings right before Fury-The story of a horse and the Boy who loved him. Always wondered about that intro. In Philadelphia, there was also a kids’ show with the father of Peter Boyle-Pappy Boyle. I was about 3 or 4 and we actually met the guy at a bank. The first famous person I ever met. I would rather have met the Lone Ranger, though.


  112. 113 berigan2electricboogaloo December 18, 2007 at 1:36 am

    savannahguy, yeah the avatar is me…..


  113. 114 ssiscribe December 18, 2007 at 6:58 am

    Top of the morning, everybody! First and foremost, thanks so much for your kind words in regards to my post above. Thanks to CL for letting me hit leadoff on the blog, and I’m glad everybody enjoyed it. Be glad to lead off anytime you need for me to do so.

    Now, Javy (there’s your transition, esteemed Journalist Jimmy): I loved Javy when he was here. He was a HUGE part of our success. BUT, I just don’t think he adds that much. He always was a defensive liability and he’s done nothing offensively the past three seasons.

    But the Braves did the right thing in offering him a minor league deal. If he doesn’t cut it at Lake Buena Vista, you simply cut him free. No harm, no foul. I just don’t think he’d be better than Pena, Sammons or Miller. We shall see.

    I wish Javy well. Nice guy, good kid who had a great run here. But at the end of the day, it’s about constructing a roster to compete for a championship. Bringing back Glavine? He helps (13 wins, 23 quality starts, decent ERA, fills a dire need of a durable third starter). But bringing back Javy? I just don’t see how this will help, unless he’s able to play solid defense once or twice a week and be a good bat off the bench.

    We shall see, as they say.

    Enjoy your day.

    The Scribe abides.



  114. 115 journalistjimmy December 18, 2007 at 9:32 am

    popcorn in the popper, who will be the stopper? and who will come out of the pen? memories linger, of cold ringfinger. let’s hope that he will win.

    oh, the humanity! that was beautiful, too. so many beautiful posts on this blog and hardly and idiot to be found. but we must have some music to supplant the other blog completely. where is carolina lady with the zamfir lyrics?

    what? what, baby seal? can’t sing and play the pan flute at the same time? bummer.

    so, whose lyrics shall we publish here? try these:

    Her name was Lola, she was a showgirl
    With yellow feathers in her hair and a dress cut down to there
    She would merengue and do the cha-cha
    And while she tried to be a star, Tony always tended bar
    Across a crowded floor, they worked from 8 till 4
    They were young and they had each other
    Who could ask for more?

    At the Copa (CO!), Copacabana (Copacabana)
    The hottest spot north of Havana (here)
    At the Copa (CO!), Copacabana
    Music and passion were always the fashion
    At the Copa….they fell in love

    oh, that was bad. but we needed lyrics. now, bravesandstuff is complete.

    and about these avatars . . . very confusing to jimmy smith. an avatar appears, then disappears, then reappears. what is going on? gremlins? mets trolls? none on here, right?


  115. 116 lew614 December 18, 2007 at 9:47 am

    SCribe-You are hardly the first I’ve heard in the past couple of days that claimed Javy was bad defensively. I also, rememebr him as sub par defensively.

    However, I checked with Baseball Reference and found out something that stunned me. I compared Javy’s career defensive stats at catcher to Johnny Bench’s-widely consider THE best if not one of the best defensive catchers ever. I was shocked. Now, while I realize that stats don’t mean everything, except to Shaun, here’s what I found. Career Fielding % Javy .992 in 15 seasons with 96 Passed Balls-50 of which were in 98 or previously. Bench-.987 F% in 17 seasons, with 94 Passed Balls.

    Now, I would never compare the two (for fear of ridicule, if nothing else), but I was completely stunned how close there stats actually were. Maybe Javy was not as bad as we have thought.

    I don’t know that Javy can make the team. I have questions about his offense, since his last several years played were less than stellar and he missed all of last year. However, he was always in good physical shape and maybe he can add a power bat coming off the bench, He only costs the Braves $750,000-IF he makes the team-if not, then he is not a problem. He will either go back to Peurto Rico or to another team. The Nationals seem to be happy with our discards. They just signed Willie Harris AND Pete Orr. Wow.


  116. 117 ssiscribe December 18, 2007 at 10:04 am

    Lew: How is life in snowy Vermont? It was 26 here yesterday morning, 29 this morning (I think it’s up to 33 now on the Santa Claus thermometer on the back patio, as I sit out here wondering why in the world I’m sitting out here when it’s 72 and toasty inside).

    Now, Javy (transition): I think the knock on Javy is partly because he wasn’t as mobile behind home plate as some would’ve liked — he always had a cannon, though; just ask Manny, who he picked off from first base in Game 2 in the 95 Series. Part of it is Maddux wanting his own person catcher — however, the best game I ever saw Maddux pitch in person, the two-hitter in Game 1 of the 95 Series, Javy was behind the dish.

    I just don’t think Javy can help this team. I’d like to be proven wrong, but the Braves need somebody who can play 30 to 40 games and provide enough consistent offense, not to mention be valuable pinch-hitting, and provide solid enough defense. I have my doubts about Javy, much as I’d like to see him make it.

    Now, bullpen (more transition): I see somebody posted on the Chop Chick “blog” this morning their thoughts on Blaine Boyer, and how he looked like he doesn’t want to be part of the organization anymore. That’s asinine, and unless the person who has posted that has talked to Boyer recently, it’s also inaccurate.

    Boyer, if healthy, is a big part of the bullpen nobody is talking about. Throws hard, showed in 2005 (prior to injuries) he can get hitters out at the big-league level. He’s from the northwest suburbs of Atlanta and wants to get back to his 05 level, and do so here. Certainly, there are a lot of arms ahead of him but, if he’s healthy, Boyer has as much talent as anybody down there.

    The bullpen’s top four are totally locked in, with Soriano, Moylan, Yates and the lefty Ohman. It’s my belief the Braves should go north with two lefties, so Ring gets a spot if he can throw strikes in camp. That leaves two spots, and I think Acosta is a step ahead of a very crowded pack — a pack that includes Boyer, Devine, Stockman and Resop, among others — for the sixth spot.

    Now, toes (yes, toes transition from the Scribe): When the weather is cold and one feels the need to sit on the back patio with a good cigar and a cup of coffee, one must make sure the toes are taken care of and are protected from the elements. Hence, TWO pairs of socks this morning before slipping on the sandals.

    As the wise always say, toes are not to be trifled with.

    The Scribe abides.



  117. 118 lew614 December 18, 2007 at 10:15 am

    SCribe-Yes, Javy isn’t what he once was, but we’ll see. Like I said, he costs hardly anything and if he can add some bench power, can he be any worse than a right handed hitting Thorman?

    Now Boyer (yet another Journalistic transition). I met and spoke with Boyer for about 15 minutes at ST year before last. He was a heck of a nice kid and even requested a drawing, after signing one for me as well as signing a baseball. I sure hope he can return to form. He’s a good kid and he definitely has the talent. Again, we’ll see.


  118. 119 rosalynn December 18, 2007 at 10:21 am

    Hallo, everabodah, happa holadahs! Ah am prepahin foah the retuhn of Java Lopez and Ah think that boah will be back in the majuh leagues soonah than you mah think. That boah is a favahrite of the ladahs much lahk mah Jimma. Jimma can walk in the Sundah School room and make all the ladahs swoon. Java is a lot lahk that onla Java is tallah than Jimma.

    Ah hope everahone likes mah new avatah. It is Mahtha Washington, anothah verah populah fuhst ladah. Ah lahk Mahtha a lot. Ah remembah when a beat writuh asked Mahtha once if she had evah slept in the Lincoln bedroom and Mahtha looked down at that boah and replied, yoah and idiot.

    Ah do enjoah baseball and Ah also lahk to blog and Ah would like to sah something nice to Carolina Ladah foah stahting this blog. Nice job, Carolina Ladah!

    And Ah notice that Frank has become Wren now. Whah is that boah no longah Frank? Whah Wren? Whah not Mr. Wren? What not Frank Wren? Whah not F.W.? Whah not? Ah know if Jimma calls the boah Frank he bettah ansah. Ah’ll be back latah to blog with y’all and to read some moah fascinatin posts.


  119. 120 arkansashillbilly December 18, 2007 at 10:28 am

    Lew and Scribe,

    At first glance, it does seem like Lopez could provide some pop off the bench, but remember this:

    Cox isn’t going to use his backup catcher in the pinch hitting role, hardly ever. Almost always the last man off the bench, so what kind of value would he really be as a pinch hitting option? Better not rely on him as our right handed pop off the bench. That said, he would get a game or two each week to swing the bat most likely in day games after night games.


  120. 121 lew614 December 18, 2007 at 10:35 am

    Hillbilly-I would prefer to see Brayan Pena in the role-not to mention his capabilities of playing 1B,3B and the outfield as well. I’ve never understood BC’s reticence in not giving the guy his chance. He’s always hit well and should be an ideal back up. However, it will be nice to see Javy once again at ST in a Braves’ uniform. He was always extremely popular and I guarantee I’ll get some Wurlitzer autographs from him, if nothing else.


  121. 122 journalistjimmy December 18, 2007 at 10:35 am

    hillbilly is right! bobby will not burn a catcher for pinch-hitting. remember salty? much better to bring a pete orr or a woodward to the plate rather than a catcher with some pop. and what of the changes behind home plate? will that change the game much at the ted? is that better suited to our talent or less well suited?


  122. 123 lew614 December 18, 2007 at 10:51 am

    Esteemed Journalist-I always got the impression that BC did not use Salty to keep him from harm’s way and not to have him hurt before the deal went down. However, I would like to see him keep Pena and a catcher. That way you have a player who can back up any position, a pinch hitter and still have an emergency catcher in reserve.


  123. 124 lew614 December 18, 2007 at 10:52 am

    Well-Not ANY position, but several.


  124. 125 arkansashillbilly December 18, 2007 at 11:01 am

    Lew, I agree on Pena. Use him as a pinch hitter and then leave him in the game as an outfielder. That way if McCann has to come out, Pena isn’t burned already. Move him behind the plate and put Infante in the outfield.


  125. 126 journalistjimmy December 18, 2007 at 11:05 am

    well, lew, that might be right but jimmy smith thinks bobby was saving ol’ salty in case bobby needed a catcher late in the game or in extra innings. jimmy smith agrees that pena would be a valuable player off the bench. journalist thinks pena did a commendable job at catcher before getting hurt. that night the canaries got in pena’s head. jimmy smith did not think a player could lose a job to injury on a bobby cox team. but pena did. and then pena played all kinds of positions in the minor leagues. what is the grand plan? maybe pena is more valuable now than ever. jimmy smith likes the pop in the bat but remembers one of the biggest homeruns of the past season was from corky miller of jo jo and corky. it sure will be fun to see how the pieces fit. jimmy smith thinks this team is improved already – some by addition but much by subtraction. will bobby be forced to play some youngsters or will a mondesi or jordan be found somewhere? or a javy? oh, the jumanity!


  126. 127 mrgil December 18, 2007 at 11:05 am

    Good morning all, I am going to go against the grain here a bit and say I think Javy is going to be a great pick up. He was batting .337 last year in spring training but the Rockies wanted to go young so they released him. He played hurt a lot while with the Orioles and it showed. During an interview last year Javy stated the only club he would consider a back up role with would be Atlanta because he did not really need the money.

    I can remember those passed balls too, but McCann isn’t exactly Charles Johnson behind the plate either. There is a very good little item on the Braves site about Javy working out with Chico. I guess someone has to load the pitching machine…… Ever seen how the work out a catcher? Move the pitching machine to about 40 feet from the plate and fire away in the dirt. Scary… Better be wearing a “Nutty Buddy”…..

    Carolina Lady, I hope you visit the blog site I posted overnight and add this blog to the list, the more places you leave your calling card, the more likely you will gain visitors.


  127. 128 CL December 18, 2007 at 11:06 am


    Clemens: ‘I’m not talking to y’all’
    Posted: Tuesday December 18, 2007 05:50AM ET

    “A defiant Roger Clemens broke his silence Monday about making the Mitchell Report’s steroid user hall of shame, and his answer was like his fastball – high and hard. “I’m not talking to y’all about it,” the husky right-hander told reporters outside his son’s elementary school in Piney Point village, close to Houston. “We’ll handle this our way,” said the Rocket, who has had local cops shooing reporters away from his multimillion-dollar mansion.”

    Now, would the local cops expend the manpower to come out to your house just to shoo reporters away??


  128. 129 arkansashillbilly December 18, 2007 at 11:21 am

    Who do you use to fill your 5 reserve spots? I know some of it will have to play out in ST, but there are so many different ways to go about this.

    Blanco/Anderson (assuming one will start and Schafer will be in AA)
    B. Jones

    Things to consider: Infante and Pena could be 5th outfielders. Lillibridge may get some outfield time. Thorman is out of options. Prado can’t play shortstop and has less offensive upside than Aybar.


  129. 130 CL December 18, 2007 at 11:26 am

    Thanks, Gil! I did and I did! 🙂 (Much appreciated!)


  130. 131 CL December 18, 2007 at 11:27 am

    Is Infante a Baby Brave?


  131. 132 arkansashillbilly December 18, 2007 at 11:28 am

    Spring training aside, I’m going with Jones, Aybar, Infante, Thorman, and Pena.


  132. 133 arkansashillbilly December 18, 2007 at 11:29 am

    CL, I believe he was a baby Tiger.


  133. 134 CL December 18, 2007 at 11:39 am

    Hillbilly, I wouldn’t be surprised to see Thorman since he seems to have so much favor with Cox and Wren. I have no idea about the others. ST will certainly be interesting, won’t it?


  134. 135 mrgil December 18, 2007 at 12:24 pm

    I think it is way too early to speculate on the reserves. I think there are some trades that will be made that will take some of the afore mentioned names out of the equation. We are never but one freak off season injury away from everything being thrown into an uproar.

    I do think the it will be Javy’s spot to lose as far as the backup catcher’s position is concerned. The Braves will likely move Sammons to Richmond to play 80% of he games. It is only a two hour plane ride to Atlanta from Richmond and there are at least 15 flights a day going that way.

    Bryan Pena is the kid on the bubble. He needs a really good spring. Aybar may end up in Washington which has become the land of misfit toys. Of course the Nationals can afford to take a chance on these guys because they are still building their pitching staff and are several years away from being a threat.


  135. 136 ssiscribe December 18, 2007 at 1:20 pm

    Too early to speculate? Never, my friend, not here on the hallowed Braves and Stuff …

    Somebody over on DOB’s blog suggested the Braves may carry three catchers. I don’t see any way of that happening, unless you consider Pena a catcher. And he is, along with being a first baseman and third baseman and who also played some in the outfield.

    Right now, I see bench locks being Infante, the backup catcher (either Lopez, Sammons, Pena or Miller), whoever isn’t starting in left on a particular day (Brandon Jones or Diaz).

    That’s three. The fourth spot depends on what happens with the fifth spot. Either Aybar or Prado makes the team as a backup infielder who can play third base and second base. Aybar is better offensively. But, if the Braves were to keep Pena, who can play third and first and catch, then I could see a scenario where both Aybar and Prado make the team.

    If Thorman is traded, and it wouldn’t surprise me if he is, then maybe Aybar, Prado and Pena make the team, joining Infante and Lopez/Sammons/Miller on the bench. Otherwise, I think Thorman’s going to go north since he’s out of options, he can play first base (Heaven’s forbid Teixeira goes down for an extended period of time) and the Braves remain high on him despite his dreadful 2007 campaign.

    Now, Boyer (transition): Lew, Boyer is a really good kid. Talked to him a few times here and there back in my previous life. I know how bad he wants to make it with the Braves. He’s seen a lot of his buddies he came up with (Wainwright, LaRoche, McBride, Langerhans, etc.) get dealt away, and sure, he wants to play in the majors. But I think he has a great chance, if healthy, to be a big-time contributor in a bullpen that is shaping up to potentially be one of the best in the majors.

    Now, Lillibridge (transitioning back to the bench; stay with me, gang): I don’t see any way Lillibridge makes the team unless he absolutely kills the ball in spring training and gives the Braves no choice in the matter but to take him north. There always is the slight chance he’s going to win the job in center, but I think the Braves really want to give Schafer a long, hard look, and I think the Anderson kid has a good shot at the job if Schafer needs more seasoning (and he probably will; kid’s never played above Class A ball).

    I don’t think you can have Lillibridge languishing on the bench in Atlanta. He needs to play every day. He’s not playing much at short behind Escobar. Barring injury, he’s not playing much at second. If Chipper gets hurt, Aybar has the experience so he’s the likely one to get most of the ABs over there.

    If Aybar has overcome his personal demons, I think Prado may be squeezed out of the mix. Infante can play second to back up KJ.

    The Scribe abides



  136. 137 journalistjimmy December 18, 2007 at 1:57 pm

    journalist’s picks: jair, jairo, jo jo, james, and jones. and the depth chart lists only anderson in center field. and what does the depth chart on this blog look like now? getting deep at all positions. good avatars, too. scribe and lew the same? thought so. both doing transition today. and where is grinch? out of school. should be blogging here with us. and if thorman is out of options then so, too, are the braves. and tony pena, jr. was out of options and started for another team last year. of course, woodward stayed here and cost more money. who will be this year’s tony pena, jr? and what will scribe’s avatar be? sorry, scribe. toes are not to be trifled with. sorry scribe.


  137. 138 ssiscribe December 18, 2007 at 2:48 pm

    Jimmy: I just tried to upload an avatar thingy … sadly, I could not find a pleasing picture of my toes, so I had to go with an alternative. Now, methinks I did it right, but so far, I still look like I’m standing in the midst of a snowstorm between Montpelier and Burlington.

    (See Lew, the Scribe knows transition … and geography, too!)

    Now, Grinch (transition): Grinch and I are going to see the woebegone Thrashers skate sometime next week. I’m to talk to him today at some point about tickets. This time, I’m actually going to stay sober and drive home after the game! I’ll tell him the Esteemed JJS was inquiring about his whereabouts.

    Now, music (transition): DOB has posted his top CDs of the year on his newest blog. I don’t see any mention of pan flute music; perhaps Baby Seal can assist in running down the pan flute CD of the year.

    Now, toes (more transition): Only one pair of socks this afternoon. Temperatures in the upper 40s with little wind and some sunshine. Tonight, cold. Tomorrow, chilly. March 31st at Turner Field: the boys of summer return.

    For chief meteorologist Glenn Burns in Severe Weather Center 2, the Scribe abides.



  138. 139 santa December 18, 2007 at 3:09 pm

    ho, ho, ho, merry christmas, everybody! and what do you want for christmas? another starter, perhaps? a center fielder? a .330 hitter? good toe health? dare santa say a PENNANT? and a WS championship? let ol’ santa know what you want for christmas.

    santa was checking the stockings hung by the chimney with care and found way too many stockings at chipper jones’ house. how many stockings does chipper wear? really, four at a time? hmmm…..


  139. 140 Bob, journalist December 18, 2007 at 3:40 pm

    Gil, your insights never cease to amaze … who would have thunk that Pena and Aybar could pitch … and for the Expos no less! I do agree that such speculation is premature since there are so many contingencies to consider … though I agree on Javy, if he’s healthy.

    I think that it would be in Aybar’s best interest to be playing for another team or in the minors … in Atlanta, he’ll be under a microscope and while there’s a large contingent of fans wishing him well, there are also many vocal ones just waiting for him to fail. While it too may be premature speculation, one would think his emotional makeup may indeed continue to be suspect and/or fragile … and, while it depends on how it’s harnessed, fear of failure can be a powerful, disabling force … as can be fan abuse.

    One of my favorite Javy Lopez memories was in 2003 … when he came to the plate in the last of the ninth with 2 outs and the tying and winning runs on base … hit a scorching line drive in the gap … he had bested the pitcher and it was then that I knew he had found it! Most remember how he finished the year but, that’s what I remember best!

    Yes, a great catch meant we lost that game and people thought I was crazy for being so excited! If he will but remember to use his levers, best the pitcher, and not to try to hit long flies, he’ll be fine … I really hope he makes the team!


  140. 141 lew614 December 18, 2007 at 4:57 pm

    ACB-No, it’s not an hallucination (though there’s nothing wrong with hallucinations-some of my best friends are hallucinations-I think). Join the crowd and maybe you’ll hear something real. Maybe not. But you won’t get someone telling you your music sucks-unless one of your hallucinations doesn’t like your tunes.


  141. 142 CL December 18, 2007 at 5:00 pm

    Hey, Lew! How’s your day?


  142. 143 Bob, journalist December 18, 2007 at 5:21 pm

    John Scott Hayes … Marietta Middle School Coach … goodness!

    It’s been reported that 20-25 Florida State football players are to be suspended for their upcoming bowl game and 3 games in 2008 for cheating in school … one would think that they should be permanently expelled from school instead!

    The wonderfully talented actor and musician, Floyd “Red Crow” Westerman, has died at age 71 … thought he was much older.

    The Braves open the Expos’ new stadium on March 30 and twill be on ESPN … translation, I’ll probably listen to it on radio!

    Welcome acb, this is truly an incredible place and getting better all the time … as a result of the popularity, there may be some trolls from time to time, but nobody can truly hide behind the mask for long!

    Don’t be too critical of the AJC and its Blogs … O’Brien has sometimes mentioned how hard he works … though he blogs above and beyond the call while Chop Chick almost never blogs, explaining … “How many times do I have to say … My AJC job unfortunately kept me from blogging in ‘07 and nobody is more regretful about that than me.” … she must have had a very demanding job in 2007 but things are expected to be better for her in 2008.

    ‘Tis an interesting circle … for indeed, were it not for O’Brien, CC, and the AJC, none of us would be here … and, were we not here, chances are that CC’s AJC job in 2008 would have been just as demanding and constraining as it was in 2007.


  143. 144 lew614 December 18, 2007 at 5:23 pm

    Ma’am-Had to get out of the house today, so I finished (and started, for that matter) my Christmas shopping. Spent all of $50 and gave the rest to the Food Bank. Got to go call the Grinch and see which house he wants his present sent to. Nothing much going on. It’s cold (two below when we got up) with lots of snow. Not too many shoppers, though.


  144. 145 journalistjimmy December 18, 2007 at 5:37 pm

    grinch said to send the maple syrup care of this journalist. and the cake. and the cookie gun. send the salad shooter to grinch’s home. this should teach grinch to stay away from the blog so long.

    and flbravesgirl and carolina lady, we must reach choppinmama. any ideas? and where is matthew, dad to walter? must touch base soon. and how about the others? surely they will come here soon. how do we reveal our location?

    and the zamfir christmas album is available now.


  145. 146 lew614 December 18, 2007 at 5:45 pm

    Esteemed Journalist-I registered at Facebook last week so I could look up an old friend. Last night I got a note that Matthew had gotten in touch with me. He is still alive and well.


  146. 147 mrgil December 18, 2007 at 6:37 pm

    Bob, I must remember to be clearer in my prose so as to not confuse the masses. What I was referring to, although I think you are pulling my leg, was the fact that the Nationals have no delusions they will be winning a championship this year or next year for that matter. They are in the process of building a pitching staff and therefore can take chances with low cost position players who are reclamation projects that can have good outcomes if they pan out.

    As for Pena, he plays third base about as well as Chipper can play shortstop. He plays first about as well as Gerald Perry. He is still primarily a catcher. His main strength is he can fill in just about anywhere and has a decent bat. He is also Yunel Escobar’s best friend.

    Since I have not seen Javy play in a while, I’m going to have to defer to others on how good he is now, or not…. If he can still play I think he has a tremendous up side. Certainly as good as Corky Miller. I would think the Braves would rather have Sammons playing most everyday in Richmond than sitting on the bench in Atlanta. He is so young that I think you could put him in the same category as Lillibridge in that regard.


  147. 148 mrgil December 18, 2007 at 6:44 pm

    Lew….. Did all my shopping on line. Hope the UPS guy doesn’t get lost. Anything large that comes in the mail, I have to go to the post office to pick up as the mail carrier will not deliver off the state maintained road. I put up an oversize mailbox but sometimes that is not large enough.


  148. 149 mrgil December 18, 2007 at 6:47 pm

    Dear Santa, If you could get Diane Lane to stop by it would be very much appreciated….. I promise I will behave right after she is gone….. Gil 🙂


  149. 150 CL December 18, 2007 at 6:57 pm

    Of the 18 invites I sent, 3 have not responded: hk, Matthew and TnPaul. Chris and John are MIA.

    I have no idea how to contact either ChoppinMama and JButler. Do NOT want to go back to the other blog to try.

    Mercy, that’s cold, Lew! It was bad enough here at 23 last night. Even the edges of the pond had ice. Just had a thought: would you post a note to the 2 of them and ask them to email you? If they respond, you could invite them to visit here. You think? That’s the only way I can come up with.

    Gil, I’m with you’! Online shopping is the way to go!!


  150. 151 mrgil December 18, 2007 at 6:57 pm

    I see our old friend Chad Paronto has signed with the Astros for 1/2 mill… Chad is a cool guy but unfortunately he was a 10 pitch pitcher…. What I mean by that was after he threw about ten pitches he could no longer find the strike zone….. T’was ugly…. And who will fill his pants not that he is gone? and Wickman??? I think the Braves found out that between those two, Delta was using too much extra fuel on the charter flights. Could Chinco be next?

    You have to cut corners where you can if you want to sign Tex next year….


  151. 152 CL December 18, 2007 at 7:05 pm

    I’ve got to do some editing to get our site “RSS ready” so at times things may look a little weird. Don’t pay it any mind; I’ll get it worked out sooner or later! 🙂


  152. 153 Bob, journalist December 18, 2007 at 7:17 pm

    Gil, I do truly appreciate the explanation as I really don’t keep up to the moment on such things … and am dependent on you and others to keep me informed!! However, I do admit to being a bit taken aback … always wanted to see Furcal pitch.

    If nobody wants to hear/see/read your Christmas story … you can always post it on the Baseball’s Magic Moments Blog. Then maybe some folks would get curious and visit.


  153. 154 journalistjimmy December 18, 2007 at 7:20 pm

    it is good that we have carolina lady to edit this blog so that we don’t have “wierd” thinglggl;glk;gp;l’opt5o[tr[rptikgpojjmnblkvbnjnhhdioeriouioehgoighiohoihiupolkvjlkdfjoioigfuyiooiudfouer90


  154. 155 Bob, journalist December 18, 2007 at 7:21 pm

    Oops, apologies to acb 1 ’twas thee to whom I posted the above invitation to visit … nicht Gil


  155. 156 CL December 18, 2007 at 7:26 pm

    jimmy, I know I can always depend on you to help me out! 🙂 🙂 🙂


  156. 157 nacly December 18, 2007 at 7:28 pm

    CL…thought of you straight away. For mothers with daughters…but I suppose with sons would work as well! From the mouths of babes!

    My mother taught me to read when I was four years old (her first mistake). One day, I was in the bathroom and noticed one of the cabinet doors was ajar.

    I read the box in the cabinet. I then asked my mother why she was keeping ‘napkins’ in the bathroom. Didn’t they belong in the kitchen?

    Not wanting to burden me with unnecessary facts, she told me that those were for ‘special occasions’ (her second mistake).

    Now fast forward a few months…. It’s Christmas Day, and my folks are leaving to pick up my uncle and his wife for dinner. Mom had assignments for all of us while they were gone.

    Mine was to set the table.

    When they returned, my uncle came in first and immediately burst into laughter. Next came his wife who gasped, then began giggling. Next came my father, who roared with laughter.

    Then came Mom, who almost died of embarrassment when she saw each place setting on the table with a ‘special occasion’ Kotex napkin at each plate, with the fork carefully arranged on top. I had even tucked the little tail in so they didn’t hang off the edge!!

    My mother asked me why I used these and, of course, my response sent the other adults into further fits of laughter.

    ‘But, Mom, you said they were for special occasions!!!’

    Isn’t it easier to just tell the truth?! ????????


  157. 158 mrgil December 18, 2007 at 7:28 pm

    LOL… Shucks Bob, I will have to keep that story to myself 🙂


  158. 159 mrgil December 18, 2007 at 7:30 pm

    Oh the humanity…. 8)


  159. 160 santa December 18, 2007 at 7:32 pm

    ho, ho, ho, that was a good one, gil. diane lane is so devoted to jimmy smith and baby seal that she will not be available for a visit. she has been in pudding school for months trying to perfect a banana pudding for jimmy smith. santa thinks she’s going to spring a banana pudding on jimmy smith christmas morning. where things will go from there no one knows.

    perhaps virginia madsen could be persuaded to visit gil, however. virginia is a nice girl who now believes in santa (yes, virginia, there is a santa claus) but, virginia has a little ice cream problem just now. virginia can eat two tubs of ice cream in about 3 minutes. let me know if you’d like a visit. if so, gil should begin stocking the freezer now.

    and now this about paronto . . . good sinker, bad conditioning. sinker sinks for 10 pitches, then goes flat. paronto then overthrows and loses control. pants could be problematical. santa will bring big chad some new pants for christmas. must remember to deliver them to texas.


  160. 161 mrgil December 18, 2007 at 7:39 pm

    Well, I could accept Sealma but I am not sure if the wife will let me keep her… Tell jimmysmith that too much banana pudding will have him looking like Virginia Madsen’s clone…. And Chopseal will be singing “I Am The Walrus”….. could get trampled by the heard. Better to have Diane bring the pudding to me, I would be willing to make the sacrifice to save our two ace bloggers.


  161. 162 CL December 18, 2007 at 7:41 pm

    So funny, Salty!! Kids will do you in every time!!

    When my daughter was about 4, she went through this VERY dramatic phase. I was packing to go to work (3 day trip) and, with big alligator tears rolling down her cheeks, she begged, “Mommy, don’t leave!”

    I told her that if I don’t go to work we won’t have any money to which she replied, “We don’t need any money.”

    Me: “If we don’t have any money we won’t be able to buy groceries.”
    She: “We got groceries.”

    Me: “We won’t be able to buy your new clothes.”
    She: “I’ll wear the ones I got.”

    Everything I could think of, she had an answer for.

    Me: “I won’t be able to buy any new toys.”
    She: silence……..snif……….”When you gettin’ back?”


  162. 163 mrgil December 18, 2007 at 7:45 pm

    Great story CL…. Reminds us where our priority’s lie. 🙂

    And Salty, I shall never again be able to sit at a formal table with a straight face…


  163. 164 Bob, journalist December 18, 2007 at 7:51 pm

    NaCly, methinks that belongs in the “Magic Moment” HOF and even if you don’t post it on the Baseball’s Magic Moment Blog (soon to be restructured to include non-baseball stories from baseball fans), I’ve copied it and will so do, with your permission, of course!


  164. 165 nacly December 18, 2007 at 7:59 pm

    Bob, J
    But of course, post away. I’m not the author, but the world woudn’t be what it is if kids didn’t do and say the things they have. Magic moments.

    My boys used to lay on top of each other (pig-pile) when they’d watch television…back in their 3-4 year old days. Once I overheard them go, ‘Ewww….yech’ to a kissing scene (very tame, I might add!)! Then the youngest asked, “What are they doing?” The wise older one replied, “They’re having sex”, which elicited yet another display of disgust.

    Then the younger asked, “What’s sex?”, to which the older replied, “Beats me!”

    Gotta love the innocence!


  165. 166 berigan2electricboogaloo December 18, 2007 at 8:00 pm

    CL, that story with your then 4 year daughter is priceless!!! 🙂


  166. 167 nacly December 18, 2007 at 8:10 pm

    Kids will always have their priorities…selfless to……less selfless in a heartbeat! 🙂


  167. 168 berigan2electricboogaloo December 18, 2007 at 8:12 pm

    Gil, are you saying if JJS eats too much banana pudding he’ll look like Virginia Madsen???? Eat Jimmy, eat!!! Normally, I am not gay(Not that there is anything wrong with me not being gay, or is there?) but if everyone, male or female eating too much banana pudding, will make them=to Ms. Madsen, do it, do it!!!!! 😉


  168. 169 nacly December 18, 2007 at 8:16 pm

    Berigan…that’s just too funny…I’m not sure I can even get a visual! Do I want to even try!?! 🙂


  169. 170 CL December 18, 2007 at 8:17 pm

    Is this fun or what??! 🙂


  170. 171 lew614 December 18, 2007 at 8:19 pm

    Ma’am-If the two you meant were JButler and Choppinmama, I have no idea. I have not had outside contact with either.

    ACB-No shrooms on Holidays for me ( unless you count Halloween- or for the past 33 yeasrs or so.) believe me, when I was younger you wouldn’t have wanted to deal with my Mother while in altered states, and after marriage you CERTAINLY could not have coped with my Mother In Law changing colors over the turkey and cranberry sauce.


  171. 172 CL December 18, 2007 at 8:26 pm

    I think I have the RSS feed ready – won’t know until a guy comes back online to test it for me. Hardly noticed a thing, did you? 🙂 This should really plug us into the outside world!


  172. 173 mrgil December 18, 2007 at 8:36 pm

    Oh…… That Virginia Madsen, was thinking of Karl Malden…… Still, Virginia looks strikingly similar to my first wife….. So, still no go….


  173. 174 CL December 18, 2007 at 8:40 pm

    I was just re-reading scribe’s blog lead above for about the 15th time. The boy has a way with words!

    Scribe, that is excellent writing – and I sincerely appreciate you blessing us with your talent! Thank you!!


  174. 175 johnny oats December 18, 2007 at 8:51 pm

    I used to play a little ball in my time. Back then I was feeling my oats. Today, I am an oatmeal man. Oatmeal for breakfast, oatmeal for lunch. Then, for dinner, oatmeal over a bed of rice. I love my oatmeal. I think the Braves should eat more oatmeal and then, they’d be more like regular guys. Yep, oatmeal will keep ’em regular.

    Now, transition to baseball . . . if jair and jairo compete will jairo have an unfair advantage? you decide.


  175. 177 journalistjimmy December 18, 2007 at 8:59 pm

    “Teixeira felt some discomfort in his left knee during Spring Training last season and continued to battle some soreness in the regular season’s early weeks. Doctors found a loose body in his knee, but the ailment didn’t cause him to miss any extended time. At the end of the season, he was given the option to have this surgery.”

    a loose body in his knee? oh, the humanity! what does this mean? another scandal commensurate with the sordid hammock bone of last season? a loose body?

    we must have more information.


  176. 178 berigan2electricboogaloo December 18, 2007 at 9:04 pm

    In the article above…..
    Doctors found a loose body in his knee
    Wow, a loose body! Say guys,(and gals) what exactly does that mean?? A bone chip? Loose cartilage? Shrapnel from Vietnam? Jimmy Hoffa?


  177. 179 berigan2electricboogaloo December 18, 2007 at 9:05 pm

    Sure Jimmy, make me look foolish by writing(And reading) faster than I do! 😉


  178. 180 CL December 18, 2007 at 9:06 pm

    Is everybody on the team accounted for???


  179. 181 journalistjimmy December 18, 2007 at 9:09 pm

    chino. where is chino?


  180. 182 CL December 18, 2007 at 9:13 pm

    I haven’t seen him anywhere. You don’t think…….


  181. 183 journalistjimmy December 18, 2007 at 9:22 pm

    has anyone seen frank? who is this “wren” guy? wren this. wren that. wren the moon comes over the mountain. what are some of wren’s favorite songs? when the red, red, robin, comes bob, bob, bobbin . . .

    and why no more frank? a little too familiar, perhaps? first date jitters? jilted, perhaps? frank found another pal? perhaps a small pinniped? who can say?

    and now our superstar has a loose body in his knee. britney spears? could be painful.

    it is good that carolina lady got the editing done in timeioufrieoqwtopuewoptuospdfgjoprjgpoerwjlkxcgfjhiolghiorhtgfoiretgfoiewsioghfreioghoighvighihgigifgu943u09-rtu20-u0-1043


  182. 184 mrgil December 18, 2007 at 9:26 pm

    “a loose body” Oh crap….. that’s what started me on my road to ruin….. Same knee too…. Oh crap 😦


  183. 185 CL December 18, 2007 at 9:33 pm

    🙂 🙂 🙂

    It’s been one long haul today so I’m turning in extra early tonight. Another sunrise on the way!

    Y’all have fun! You don’t know how much I enjoy spending this time with you!



  184. 186 mrgil December 18, 2007 at 9:34 pm

    Night CL.. 🙂


  185. 187 mrgil December 18, 2007 at 10:21 pm

    I have gone back to read the denials by Frank Wren the Braves were in any way interested in Javy Lopez. Stories by a certain beat reporter for the AJC on 12/5 and 12/6 cited Wren as not being aware or interested in Lopez. Then a story dated 12/17 says a Braves coach has been working with Lopez at the school that Frank Wren’s kids attend since October.

    Do you think someone has been played? Could it be why we have gone from “Frank” to “Wren” in such a short period of time? I bet someone should feel used… 🙂


  186. 188 savannahguy December 18, 2007 at 11:00 pm

    Was that a loose body “in” his knee or a loose body “on” his knee? Big difference.


  187. 189 berigan2electricboogaloo December 19, 2007 at 2:31 am

    More braking news, this time from the world of entertainment, Britney Spears 16 year old sis is preggers! Congrats! I am sure he/she will likely be president someday….


  188. 190 Bob, journalist December 19, 2007 at 2:35 am

    Gil, are you sure it wasn’t Trini with whom the Coach was working? Mr. La Bamba is still a player with whom to be reckoned … as I hope are both Javy and Frank … though I reckon it’s sometimes hard for a fan to recognize the difference between shills and unwitting dupes … perhaps one is used while the other is had. It does give one pause to ponder the possible purpose of any intentional misdirection.

    Goodnight all!


  189. 191 mrgil December 19, 2007 at 7:38 am

    Does anyone besides me remember Al Capp’s Lil Abner? I cannot help but think about the movie spoof and the affect of Kick-A-Poo Joy Juice. All those studs who lost interest in the beautiful women in Dog Patch. Man, that was how long ago?

    Roger Clemens must have been heavy into that stuff. Could not have possibly been doing wrong according to him. Sigh… Another warrior thrown on the scrap heap. I wonder how long it will be before the public will give into the lies?

    I will venture to say there will be zero lawsuits brought against Sen. Mitchell when the day is done. And oh by the way, it is not against the law to lie unless one is under oath. Does not mean there is not a price to pay for being caught in a lie, just cannot be put in jail for it.


  190. 192 mrgil December 19, 2007 at 7:46 am

    As for the “Pop Tarts” ….. Is anyone really surprised? What a wonderful example for our kids. No way I would let my kids watch that tripe. Of course God created teenagers for the purpose of procreation to begin with as he gave them raging hormones and undeveloped brains. Then he allowed for alcohol to be invented. Simply a perfect storm for population increase.


  191. 193 ssiscribe December 19, 2007 at 8:39 am

    Top of the morning, everybody. I see the snowstorm must have moved out of my avatar because now there is a picture of the Braves piling on top of each other on Oct. 28, 1995.

    And I was blessed to be sitting in the upper deck, Aisle 323, on that glorious night. Yes, the ticket stub hangs in a frame upstairs, next to my Wurlitzer of AJ.

    Now, Javy (noted transition by the Scribe): I, too, remember the stories denying interest in the aging (aren’t we all, by the way) catcher. But one thing to remember: Your sources are not going to tip their hand each time. It happens that you will ask about something, you’ll get a denial and you’ll know that’s not the case. But if you can’t confirm it with somebody, then you can’t run with it. It’s frustrating, but part of the game.

    I don’t know if anybody got played … I just think it was a source protecting information. It happens.

    Now, teenagers (more transition): My teenage years were a blur, in more ways than one. My kids are, thankfully, years away from reaching that stage. But teenagers often imitate what they see or hear, so hopefully, all those little girls looking up to the “clean-cut” Spears will get a good talkin’ to from their parents last night.

    Now, Tex (final transition; fish to fry this morning): No biggie on the knee. Turns out it was loose debris and not a loose body in his knee. Methinks if Tex, who is a big dude anyway, had a loose body in his knee, then we would’ve known about it before now.

    Thx again for all the kind words on the post. Glad to see we’re getting good traffic on here.

    And at least Tex’s toes are OK. Toes are not to be trifled with.

    The Scribe abides.



  192. 194 journalistjimmy December 19, 2007 at 9:20 am

    LAUSANNE, Switzerland: The International Baseball Federation has hired a new anti-doping manager as part of its campaign to win reinstatement as an Olympic sport.

    Nicki Vance is an Australian who has nearly 20 years of experience in the field, including a year’s stint at the World Anti-Doping Agency.

    and where does bobby cox fit in this equation? an anti-dope? esteemed manager, not a dope. nose picker, possibly a dope. picked redman, woodward, and wilson over anybody but redman, escobar, and pogo. perhaps a dope? mis-use of bullpen? perhaps a dope? andruw batting cleanup, perhaps a dope? is this a trend? going for the anti-dope? more later.


  193. 195 CL December 19, 2007 at 9:29 am

    ‘Morning, everyone! Still sorting through mail, but this in one of them is just outstanding. It’s short, but give a listen to a 12-year old boy:



  194. 196 arkansashillbilly December 19, 2007 at 9:37 am

    Matthew posted on Journalist Bob’s Magic Moments Blog, so apparently he got the message.


  195. 197 ssiscribe December 19, 2007 at 9:52 am

    Oh, forgot to mention this to the crew, but I talked to the Esteemed Grinch yesterday. We are going to the Thrashers game next Thursday night. He is doing well and enjoying the break from school.

    Back to the fish fry …



  196. 198 ssiscribe December 19, 2007 at 9:54 am

    And the Scribe has posted the 200th comment on this blog. Not a bad two day’s work, bloggers so esteem.

    And what does the Scribe get for being No. 200? Should I tip my hat to the crowd like Smoltz did in May when he reached No. 200? I was at that game and that was very, very cool. Of course, if I tip my hat, my bald head will get quite chilly, since I’m working from the back patio this morning.

    Do I get a T-shirt for … wait, never mind. Let’s not go down the road. 🙂

    The Scribe abides.



  197. 199 CL December 19, 2007 at 10:11 am

    Thanks, Hillbilly! Hope he’ll find his way over here!

    scribe, I don’t know what would be a suitable memorial for this momentous occasion! Will take much thought!

    New blog will be up in the near future. I’ve been asked to do some editing on it and am clearing the desk and other tasks to get to it.



  198. 200 lew614 December 19, 2007 at 10:40 am

    Scribe-About that loose body-Does his wife know?

    Talked to Grinch last night-he was watching a movie with the elder Suessian character.

    CL-When you have it up, send me a link. That appears to be my only good access when a new page comes up/ Thanks.


  199. 201 CL December 19, 2007 at 10:44 am

    Lew, try this: http://www.bravesandstuff.wordpress.com/home-plate/

    It should give you access to everything. The light blue dates on the calendar are the post dates.

    Let me know how it works!


  200. 202 LeTwan Anthony December 19, 2007 at 11:07 am

    LeTwan wishes everyone a Merry Christmas, Happy Hanukkah, and Happy Holidays! Mama is baking a pie right now so LeTwan must be very quiet. Mama is an artist like Lew, only for pies. Mama must concentrate.

    LeTwan heard on the radio a few minutes ago that the tuna is coming to town. Charlie Tuna? Georgia Aquarium? Better not get sick, Chalie. Imagine Bernie Marcus with an aquarium and Arthur Blank with a tuna! Some things never change.


  201. 203 ssiscribe December 19, 2007 at 11:24 am

    Greetings, LeTwan! More and more of the gang gathering at the esteemed Braves and Stuff as we speak! Excellent.

    Now, pies (transition in honor of LeTwan): What sort of pie goes well with Christmas? Pumpkin? Chocolate? Apple? The Scribe loves all three, so much so, a return to the gym is in order, and soon.

    Now, Tuna (transition): The Tuna is coming to town? Wow! Great news. Will provide a healthy balance for pie. Get the bread and mayo, and break out some light chips to go with it. Lunchtime is drawing near!

    Oh, THAT Tuna … I see. The Falcons go from the Pig to the Tuna. Dogs and Pigs and Tuna, oh my! The Falcons are such a mess; methinks the Braves are much easier to deal with than the folks who reside in Flowery Branch.

    Now, other blog (transition): Shaun is talking stats, Coach is talking options and DOB is talking Javy. Stats and options and Javy, oh my! Somewhere, the T-shirts still are in the mail. And what will Santa bring to the CC blog this Christmas?

    Enough, already. I’m ready for a tuna sammich.

    And pie. Because tuna and pie are key to toe health, and you know what we say about toes …

    The Scribe abides.



  202. 204 LeTwan Anthony December 19, 2007 at 12:03 pm

    Yes, Scribe, many are coming over to BravesandStuff. Some still do not know Carolina Lady has this new blog.

    Now, Stuff. Christmas pies at the Anthony house are as follows: Primary Pies: Pecan, Mince Meat, Pumpkin, and Sweet Potato. Secondary Pies: Apple, Peach, Cherry, Blackberry, Strawberry, Key Lime, and maybe chocolate or lemon ice box with a meringue. Of course, the season dictates the pie. New Years will feature Mama’s famous Blackeyed Pea Pie with cornbread crust. Other ingredients are too secret for disclosure here where unscrupulous journalists may find them and post them on less popular blogs. Mama’s recipe secrets must be kept. LeTwan does not know how Mama uses the WD-40 in her pies but it seems to work pretty well and the pies are very popular.


  203. 205 mrgil December 19, 2007 at 12:11 pm

    Afternoon all, Yes, the Tuna would be a big catch for the Falcons. It is going to take a few years but best for everyone to just stay out of his way while he builds a winner. Don’t expect him to be on T. Owens Christmas card list though. The good news is the Falcons could hardly get any worse. Well, maybe trade places with the Dolphins but that is another story.

    acb1…. Still waiting for the mushroom story…..


  204. 207 journalistjimmy December 19, 2007 at 1:05 pm

    a big box just arrived for jimmy smith for christmas. and it is from frank! that’s right. frank! what could frank be sending this journalist for christmas? the package is bigger than a canned ham should be and it is probably too thin to be a cheese sampler (these are typical gifts for journalists). what could it be?

    and why is frank sending jimmy smith a gift? christmas spirit? or is frank seeking to curry favor with this journalist? does frank think that this journalist might be persuaded, or disuaded, or marinated by the mere acceptance of a gift? well, frank had best re-think that. jimmy smith abides by strict journalistic ethics and would never sit on a story or hold back on something that might be embarrassing to the organization merely because of a gift given to this journalist by someone with whom this journalist must interface day to day. certainly, that could never happen with this journalist. and jimmy smith is a bit uncomfortable with the first name business of calling frank, “frank”. homeboy upstairs did not wish to be called “john” by this journalist. and this journalist would hesitate to call homeboy upstairs “john” because that is too familiar if jimmy smith and homeboy are to maintain a professional relationship. so, journalist is going to return this gift right away to this new homeboy and remove any suggestion of impropriety. “what? what, baby seal?” a new mac? really? journalist is in need of a new computer. “what? a macbook pro? a macbook pro 17″ 2.4 GHz? oh, the humanity! thank you, frank!”


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