8: Carolina Lady made me write this



by Berigan

(Editor’s note: I did not! He ‘volunteered’!)

JONESBORO, GA – The kind lady from Carolina said I could write anything I wanted as long as it was on baseball, so the next 5,000 words will be an incredibly detailed explanation as to why Ted Simmons MUST be inducted into the Hall of Fame right now!

THIS JUST IN, I am told if I do continue on this topic, I will be banned for life and will have to post on the AJC’s Australian rules football blog, and see if anyone’s interested there about who will be the back-up catcher for the braves.

Since I am not the wordsmith that JJS, Scribe and Savannah guy are, and since Ted Simmons is verboten (even though he did have more hits, RBI’s and a higher batting average than either Johnny Bench or Gary Carter-sorry!), what else can I talk about in mid December???

Hows about Braves starting pitching for next year?

Some life may be left in this horse. It ain’t dead yet, let’s beat it! Very hard to read this staff, isn’t it? If this was 2001 and we had Smoltz, Glavine, Hudson, and Hampton, I’d say we would have the best staff in NL! But, it will be 2008 when they all stand on a mound again for the braves (not at one time though).

John Smoltz is still the man, but he will be 41 in May. How many power pitchers are there at his age who don’t have a deep and abiding belief in better living through chemistry??? Of course we all know Smoltz is a freak of nature, so it may not matter. Smoltz still gives up less than a hit per inning. His strikeout numbers have not dropped either, still about 1 per inning as well. His WHIP was 1.182 last year, and his BFP was only 853!!! I have no idea what these numbers mean, but all the smart folks mention them, so I will as well.

Tim Hudson. As long as he stays healthy, the one guy we most likely won’t have to worry about. Just 32, a full decade younger than Glavine. Thank God 2006 was just an aberration. I do wish he’d put on a few pounds though. He makes us overweight guys look bad.

Glavine will be 42 in March. We all know he’s a gamer, won the biggest game ever for the Braves in the 1995 WS. Even though Glavine had a few terrible playoff series before leaving the Braves, he was the Mets best pitcher in the 2006 playoffs, going 6 shutout innings against the Dodgers in round 1, and went 11 innings in 2 starts against the Cards in round 2 with only a 2.45 ERA. But, he also had 131 strikeouts in 198 innings in ’06 , only 89 strikeouts last year in 200 innings. Will that tend downward continue?

I like to waste time, so I dug deeper into his numbers last year. I know, the last few starts messed up his overall numbers, still check out these stats:

– opponents hit .269 against him before the all-star break, .297 after.
– pre All star ERA was 4.36, after 4.57.
– his ERA for day game starts(8 of them) was 7.62, yikes!!!
– how’s this for a weird stat: batters hitting 4th hit .378 off him, with a .480 OBP.

Just walk the clean-up guy next year Tom! And what happens if he swoons again next September and we are in the hunt for the playoffs? Will Bobby rest him, or keep running him out there no matter what? Silly question. To me, Tom is the biggest question mark next year, even over……Hampton.

I’m sure KC is projecting for 15 wins from Hampton, but who knows if he will pitch one inning for us? I don’t think he is much of a question mark, cuz you can’t expect much of anything from a guy who has missed so very much time. Hampton pitched only 69 innings in 2005, and none in 06 and 07. He only pitched 172 innings in 2004. So, even if he stays healthy, and is effective, he will be a huge drain on the bullpen, just like Chuck James was last year.

Hampton is paid a lot more than Chucky, so can we assume Chucky won’t be in the starting rotation next year?? Surely we wouldn’t go with 3 soft tossing lefties would we??? Perhaps the 3rd pitch James is working on this offseason is a 97 MPH heater!

How does one round out the starting rotation (figuring Chuck or Hampton will not be in the rotation opening day)?

Hey, if we left Chucky in, how about having 4 soft tossing lefties in a 6 man rotation!!!

Wait, that’s not fair to Jo-Jo, his fastball might at least crack, if not break a pane of glass. 😉 Last year, Jo-Jo had a 6.22 ERA. Uh-oh. But, he really did improve. For the month of July, his ERA was 8.20, August, 8.49, then things came together in September: a 3.10 ERA in 20 innings. Only 17 hits given up, meaning opposing hitters only hit .239 to end on a very good note.

Jair Jurrjens? Checking his stats for the brief time he was with the Tigers, 4.70 ERA, and only 13 strikeouts in 30 innings. But, only 24 hits allowed in those 30 innings. Not bad against hitters in the superior league (oh how it pains me to say that)!

Checking thebaseballcube.com, he had very good numbers in the minors, and he’s only 21!!! Those clips that were on the Braves website made him look like quite the stud, with a very good curve, and above average fastball. But since he is only 21, I guess he will have to season a bit with the Richmond team for awhile unless one of the 40-something’s hurts his back putting on his sock garters. Notice I did not pick on Hampton’s health, or lack thereof.

I really wish Jeff Bennett had been brought up sooner! I know I am not the only one that was impressed with what work we did get to see. He may be 27, but he was injured, and missed all of 2006. And just became a starter late last year for the first time since 2002.

I joked about a 6 man rotation earlier, but we know the Red Sox are at least considering it; getting the starts spaced out really helped Curt Shilling last year in the playoffs, as well as shutting him down for about a month.

And Smoltz likes the idea. It’s tricky, I know…but, who besides Hudson should be pitching more than 200 innings next year? Neither Smoltz nor Glavine really should pitch more than 90 pitches per game (stats I spared you from seeing back me up on this) IF Hampton is healthy enough to pitch, he can’t be going far into games either. Jair Jurrjens is only 21 (22 in January) and teams are learning to keep innings down on guys that young. Chuck hasn’t shown the ability yet to go past 5 innings either.

Hmmm. Is a 6 man rotation the answer or are we better off with 2-3 long relievers?? Chuck can go and pitch 4th, 5th, and 6th innings in games Hampton starts, Jeff Bennett can pitch the 5th and 6th innings in games Jair-Jair pitches in, Tyler Yates can do the same for Jo-Jo, and the 3 long guys can draw straws for who pitches the days Glavine, Smoltz or Hudson don’t have it!

There, is that clear as mud?? Ok, I have said more than enough, who do you guys and gals think should be our starting 5 or 6 come opening day??????


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227 Responses to “8: Carolina Lady made me write this”

  1. 1 CL December 22, 2007 at 11:43 pm

    Way to go, Berigan!! Ya done good! 🙂


  2. 2 savannahguy December 22, 2007 at 11:55 pm

    Berigan Just when I’m retiring for the evenin’, new post, so I had to check it out. Excellent post. Knew you were sandbaggin’ us. Very nice.

    I joked about a 6 man rotation earlier, but we know the Red Sox are at least considering it

    This is an idea that I got lambasted for early last summer, but I like it. Makes sense, especially as…uh, getting along in age as some starters are and youthful or inexperienced others are in out lineup. It would be perfect for the Braves this year.


  3. 3 mrgil December 23, 2007 at 12:26 am

    Wow, great blog Berigan… I think I will have to completely rewrite mine so as to not get laughed off the site. I feel a lot like one of those contestants on American Idol that everyone knows is going to sing off key before they open their mouth.

    Good insight to the Braves pitching fortunes next year. You are right about pitchers going deep but perhaps they have adopted the Greg Maddux school of run avoidance. That is to say, don’t let them hit the ball off the sweet spot of the bat. Those six and seven pitch innings can go a long way in saving your bullpen.

    There are a couple of kids on the R. Braves staff I will profile as we get closer to spring training. I just always remember that in ’91 the Braves were the unanimous pick to finish last in the N.L. West and we all know how that turned out.

    Carolina Lady… You absolutely have the best blog writers in baseball residing on this site. I feel blessed to be in their presence.


  4. 4 flbravesgirl December 23, 2007 at 12:40 am

    Good job, Berigan.

    The 6-man rotation idea will tick off the traditionalists but I agree with SavannahGuy that it makes sense for the Braves. I don’t mean this to disparage our starters but we’ve got: Old, Scrawny, Old v.2, Can’t Go 6 & Who Knows What We’ll Get. Might as well add someone to spread out the workload.


  5. 5 flbravesgirl December 23, 2007 at 12:59 am

    And I seem to be the only one here.

    OK, good night, y’all. Who’s got the overnight shift?


  6. 6 Bob, journalist December 23, 2007 at 2:18 am

    Whoa!! … what about Ted Simmons? You mean I stayed up and read all that for nothing?! Goodness!!

    Wordsmithe Berigan, your good work refutes your protestations!

    My Lady reminds me of Chop Chick … putting up Berigan’s Post after saying we’d have to wait … but that’s where the similarities end; nothing contrived about Kelly’s mom! Happy Birthday Kelly!!

    If Hampton wins 15 without pitching any innings for us, he’ll deserve either a Cy Young or KC a Wurlitzer … but, I agree he isn’t much of a question mark. It’s impossible to imagine the frustration he’s endured … fame, fortune … rarifed air indeed … and methinks ’twas such thin air what done him in!

    I think too that he’s been given a bum rap by them what ain’t played a day … how many of us, were we to have had our financial security secured, … would have chosen the route he has taken? The man has heart … he’s no question mark, not in my book!

    However, there are a lot of questions surrounding Mike’s latest and perhaps last comeback attempt … forgetting his physical health and condition for he either is or isn’t factory reconditioned, certified and physically ready to go … will he be like the aging fighter, … trim. fit, savvied, well trained, razor sharp, no rust and making one last try for the crown … who finds many an opening, loads up well … but just can’t release the punches?

    It’s above the neck with which most of my questions are concerned … my expectations are that below the neck, if properly repaired, will be as good or better than the best we’ve seen of Mike Hampton. Of course, like with John Smoltz, too much heart might be a problem too.


  7. 7 mrgil December 23, 2007 at 8:29 am

    Good morning all, It is Hampton’s heart that keeps him going. It is why I like him so much and pray he does well in his return. yes bob, some times one’s body betrays you. Between the ears you are still sharp but below the neck past your prime. Let us hope that is not the case for Mike Hampton. I was impressed by the short clip made available via you tube that showed his one inning of work in Mexico.

    He was throwing unhittable pitches in that performance with excellent break. One would expect a pitcher to get shelled in his first time out of the box but not the case. I think he will be a big key in the Braves resurgence this year.

    It would be great to four aces in the starting rotation but a full house is a pretty good hand too.


  8. 8 berigan2electricboogaloo December 23, 2007 at 8:37 am

    Thanks for the kind words all! I sure didn’t expect to even see this up til Sunday or Monday.

    Gil I truly didn’t know what I was going to write, after I found my arm twisted far behind my back, in the way only a Mom can do! 😉 I knew I couldn’t write as well about baseball in the abstract like Scribe, Savannah Guy, etc…
    Like Savannah Guy, I see stuff I would like to rewrite already(Or do away with completely), so…don’t sweat it! It’s just going to be up for a few days anywho.
    Funny how we don’t worry about a 3-4 paragraph post we make that most everyone is going to read, but make it longer comment, and the first one everyone will see, then all your fears come out to play!


  9. 9 berigan2electricboogaloo December 23, 2007 at 8:46 am

    Hmmm, just tried to bold Gil’s name, but everything was bold after that. WHat a talent I have! 🙂

    Bob, I hope I didn’t sound too cold on Hampton, I’d love to see him pitch in 30 Games, and win 12-14 of them! I am sure he would feel great about that as well, it has to have been terribly frustrating to be on the sidelines of the game you love, for so long. Like you said, I am sure he could have just retired, and still gotten the money via insurance. I just wonder about stamina, pitching stamina, which is hard to duplicate other than being on a mound every 5 days, and pitching on the side between starts….


  10. 10 CL December 23, 2007 at 8:48 am

    ‘Morning, everyone! Sorry I had to switch on you – but the blog wasn’t loading for some folks. I knew it was time before the whole thing crashed. And I’m done with crash investigations! 😆

    Gil, you’re absolutely right: the very best blog writers are right here!

    OK – Gil’s will be posted in a day or two – or whenever we reach max gross weight – and then we’ll need a new lead. Need a volunteer!


  11. 11 CL December 23, 2007 at 8:50 am

    FBG, “we’ve got: Old, Scrawny, Old v.2, Can’t Go 6 & Who Knows What We’ll Get.” That’s hilarious!!! 😆 😆


  12. 12 berigan2electricboogaloo December 23, 2007 at 8:57 am

    Thanks for mentioning the youtube clip! Of course, I found the 3 minute clip first, then I saw there was a 6 minute clip….with better sound(Well, this a whine, in the background) Say….did you notice how he did the splits around the 4:30 mark trying to field a ball??? That may be where he hurt himself, but I didn’t hear mention of that before, did “They” mention this before??? If that is what messed him up, I feel better than just tossing the ball alone.
    And he did look good! 90 MPH fastball, slider(I assume?) Curve. Does/did he throw a change?? I don’t remember….


  13. 13 berigan2electricboogaloo December 23, 2007 at 8:59 am

    Funny I have never had any trouble with this page loading, at least using mozilla. In fact, I compared it last night to the “other” blog, and even with twice as many comments here, this one was faster to load!


  14. 14 savannahguy December 23, 2007 at 9:10 am

    Berigan A fine post it is that you done. The mark of an up and coming or accomplished writer, musician, artist or anything creative is to do three things: practice, practice, and practice. Lawyers practice law, doctors practice medicine, ball players practice. Even the pros screw up (I keep waiting for Scribe to drop a grounder but he never seems to). Oh, and if we are ever completely satisfied with our work we are surely not going to improve.

    One day, if I am so blessed as to grow old and retain a modicum of reasoned thought, I will practice on my last day. Perhaps that will just be practicing hitting the bowl with the cereal, but practice it will be.

    The again, we could remember the Julia Childs philosophy of preparing and serving a fine meal. If one item on the menu is a bit too done, too rare or spiced a tad too much this or that way, she says, “never mention it to the dinner guests, it will diminish the pleasure of their dinner and stifle the conversation. They’ll assume you intended the food to presented that way and enjoy every bite”, or something along those lines. By the way, this is a reminder to myself to practice what I preach (smiley face here).

    Now, if while cooking you catch the towel on fire or cut your thumb off and spurt blood all over the SNL set, well…then you’re on your own.


  15. 15 savannahguy December 23, 2007 at 9:19 am

    I compared it last night to the “other” blog, and even with twice as many comments here, this one was faster to load!

    Could it be that the folks here are a bit quicker on the uptake?

    The banner ads loading up do slow down the other blog. Klobber pointed out last night that this place could sell ads. Hmmm… Pie Bakery? Cheese factory? BBQ restaurant? Podiatrist? Alaskan furrier? Oh, the Humanity.


  16. 16 journalist jimmy smith December 23, 2007 at 9:28 am

    oh, that was beautiful! jimmy smith cried just a little. so many bloggers here can write good blogs. berigan has set the bar high for gil and others to follow. and if this was posted on that other blog berigan would be and idiot for bringing up the 6-man rotation. here, though, the 6-man rotation can be discussed without rancor. and here is something jimmy smith learned just yesterday – :mrgreen: soon, jimmy smith will be posting in green for the holidays (better hurry, though). and about that 6-man rotation, your and idiot! just kidding. and the use of your and idiot continues on that other blog long after the departure of this journalist.

    no package has yet arrived that could be a cookie gun. journalist is awaiting the arrival of a cookie gun full of christmas cookies. and, will the braves have a base-running coach this year? and which coach do the bloggers think it will be? yes, that’s right, speedy maury cadahia. runs like maury wills, only slower. reminds this journalist of otis nixon, only otis redding. sitting by the dock of the bay instead of sprinting to second.

    it is a time of good will and peace on earth. perhaps we should invite some more bloggers to blog with us. how can the word be gotten out? blimp. that’s right, blimp. carolina lady has arranged, at considerable expense, for this blog to be promoted on the goodyear blimp during the chick-fil-a bowl. the blimp will fly over the field and all in attendance will learn about our blog. “what, what, baby seal?” roof on the georgia dome? can’t see the blimp? “oh, the humanity! someone call carolina lady!”


  17. 17 lew614 December 23, 2007 at 10:08 am

    Morning, Y’all-Another low blood sugar attack at four in the morning. This is getting old, as I drank juice before I went to bed. Oh well.

    Berigan-Can’t really disagree with your assessment, though I’m very upbeat about the young guys on the staff AND those we should see in the next couple of years, such as Hanson and Rohrbaugh. I also think relievers such as Kris Medlen and Sung Ki (not sure of the rest), look great, as well. I view the staff this year as a temporary group, at best. Glavine will likely be gone and I don’t see Smoltz continuing much longer, either.

    A while back on the other blog, I suggested a 5 1/2 man rotation as a means of saving some of our more , shall we say Mature? arms. The one y’all would prefer to remain nameless agreed that such looked to be what was planned. It couldn’t hurt, as I am very high on Bennett, Reyes and Jurrjens futures. I think they will all turn into dependable starters, sooner, rather than later.

    We shall see. At the very least, we have depth that did not exist last season and a strong, also deep, bullpen. Keeping in mind that the Mets have done nothing to improve themselves and the Phillies still have two pitchers with huge ERA, have lost a good center fielder still have Pat Burrell and no decent 3B, I’m really not worried. The Nats look like Atlanta reject central with Langerhans, Harris and Orr. They have not improved, as Dmitri Young is a diabetic coma waiting to happen. The Marlins are in their second youth movement in three years. Whatever. Things look good, at least in the Division, which will likely be secondary to the West, anyway and no one will be close to Boston or Detroit.


  18. 18 savannahguy December 23, 2007 at 10:33 am

    The Eminent, Eloquent and Ever Equitable Bob, Journalist:

    Good points on Hampton. Never considered the rarified air as culprit or contributor to Mike’s original but that does make good sense. Those muscles need a steady flow of H2O after all. Especially in sports.

    Admittedly, I’m a Hampton fan, although that admiration is derived more from the personal interviews I’ve read than his injury-plagued performance as a Brave. He seems to be a good man from what I’ve gathered. He’s obviously been a very good to great pitcher. Hopefully he’s the Comeback Kid next year.

    Now, it may very well be the altitude that done him in, but here’s my off the wall idea about his injuries, based only on my own observations that will never be proven: Mike has been hampered in the game of baseball by the combination of small feet and big heart.

    Yep. In baseball, turns, pivots and stops are violent on the body. Feet take a lot of that shock. His body takes the brunt of those quick turns and all-out sprints to stretch out a single more than if he had a bit larger foot size. The guy is a warrior with the feet of a dancer. Jackie Gleason (loved that guy) was a big man with diminutive feet. Despite his size, he was also light on his feet. Those guys walk the same way. More similarities…Mike hustles, Jackie hustled. Minnesota Fats could clean the table.

    Now you might ask…how in the world did that small foot size thing ever occur to me? Well, honestly, I have no clue, other than just watching. Little feet. Call me crazy. Chipper has just the opposite problem with those Grinch shoes he runs around with. Uh, big Hoss cleats are black, not yellow.

    In sports, size matters (can say on blog?). You heard it here first. JJS, I can just hear you already. So, there you have it.

    Is there a sports podiatrist in the house?


  19. 19 savannahguy December 23, 2007 at 10:42 am

    Lew I’m beginning to worry about you. Not much though…you know what to do. No more pie talk without leadoff disclaimer. Any further pie talk on blog must have a cautionary warning label until the artists blood sugar is 120 and steady. Sugar free pie and assorted cheese is fine.

    Five or six man rotation is good. With any lucky breaks this year and with the talent (and potential) we have in the rotation, I like our playoff chances. With Smoltz and Glavine (still can’t believe ‘m saying those two names together) reasonably rested and healthy with the advantage of the larger rotation, I really like our chances in the playoffs. Huddy, Smoltz, Glavine and just one other dependable arm from someone along with a good bullpen and we look good. Very good.


  20. 20 mrgil December 23, 2007 at 10:45 am

    Lew, I know better than to disagree with you too strongly but I believe Washington to be more of a threat than you might think. They have improved their outfield and while young, they are still in the building phase. Pitching as always remains the real key as Atlanta and the Mets have both learned. It’s great to be able to score 5 runs per game but giving up 6 in the process leads to a very poor record.

    Pitching depth is usually the difference from finishing first vs finishing fourth.
    If we look at the history of the Braves during their run of Championship seasons, the numbers 4 and 5 pitchers have had very good records. Not so the past two years.


  21. 21 mrgil December 23, 2007 at 10:52 am

    Someone who is more IT savvy needs to figure out META tags so the blog will show up on places like Google. I never had much success with it but I know it is the key.


  22. 22 mrgil December 23, 2007 at 11:16 am

    And after a little research I find Meta tags to be outdated and no longer used….. No wonder I did not have much success with them.

    And speaking of disclaimers, perhaps it might be a good idea for Carolina Lady to put a disclaimer on the site’s home page that comments and articles are the intellectual property and opinions of the writers and my not be copied without permission.

    I don’t mind being quoted but I hate being plagiarized.


  23. 23 lew614 December 23, 2007 at 12:28 pm

    Savannah Guy-It’s not a matter of HIGH blood sugar- it keeps dropping in the middle of the night. I can’t keep it HIGH enough. I went a whole day last week between 76 and 97. I AM under control-as much as any diabetic can be.

    My problem has been (and it is rare this ever happens) that at 4 in the morning, I’m waking uop with it headed to the point of Hypoglycemic shock. It was 145 when I went to bed night before last and 121 when I went to bed, so I drank juice before retiring. It dropped anyway. Maybe it’s from th cough syrup and stuff I’ve been taking so I could breathe.

    I’m doing the blog after Gil. I’ll give an overview of the NL East, minus the Braves, who we discuss in more detail than I feel like going into. I’ll talk about improvements made (if any), deficiencies existing, and try to gauge where we all stack up in comparison to one another.


  24. 24 lew614 December 23, 2007 at 12:34 pm

    Gil-Haven’t seen that Washington has made improvements or that they can count on their pitching returning to healthy status. I had really thought they would do more to acquire Andruw or another potential offensive threat. They have not done so, unless you think Lastings Milledge is the second coming of a triple crown winner. We’ll go into that when I write the blog, though. I intend to do some serious research and will give what I believe to be an honest evaluation.


  25. 25 Bo Nanner December 23, 2007 at 1:18 pm

    Once, Langerhans and Kelly Johnson were deemed equals in the Braves organization and they shared left field. In fact, Langerhans took left field away from Kelly Johnson. Then, Langerhans slumped badly and went to the toe-tap. For a time his game was improved, then, suddenly and without warning, his batting skills disappeared! Gone! Bye, bye, baby. Langehans became a strikeout waiting to happen. Sad. Kelly Johnson is now a rising star and Langerhans is a National. The worm turns.


  26. 26 CL December 23, 2007 at 1:45 pm

    Gil, this link answers some of the questions you had:

    I’ll continue researching – after Christmas most likely – and see what else I find. Haven’t had a lot of time to do this as it should be done, but it’s the best I could manage. 😕

    I appreciate all your suggestions very much and find them very helpful! 🙂


  27. 27 CL December 23, 2007 at 1:51 pm

    Home Plate has been updated with Gil’s suggestion.


  28. 28 nacly December 23, 2007 at 3:50 pm

    I must come to Berigan’s defense…he volunteered you to do the lead-in, and you mis-took his remark as volunteering. However…after reading his entry, clearly the man was far and away equal to the task. Very impressive…I’m beginning to think it was a Freudian slip on his part.


  29. 29 Bob, journalist December 23, 2007 at 4:08 pm

    Has anyone found a way to embed poles on the blog? Poles, Swedes, Germans … ?

    I thought that I could do it with Mister Poll but evidently can’t with WordPress.com stuff.

    However, it’s free and so I created this one as a test Mitchell Report Poll


  30. 30 savannahguy December 23, 2007 at 4:26 pm

    Bob, what if a person from Poland collected data from people concerning cane fishing rods and those long, flexible sticks used to vault over high bars at the very northern tip of the earth?

    Here’s another little tidbit to consider when looking at the Mitchell Report.



  31. 32 berigan2electricboogaloo December 23, 2007 at 5:28 pm

    Sorry to hear about the blood sugar issues!!! My Mom was a diabetic, and lucky me, I have taken after her. She was on insulin, I am still on Metaphorin(Sp?)
    I remember a really bad low blood sugar situation with her one night. Like down to 40, which it never dipped down to!!! She fell and I couldn’t get her back into bed(She was quite ill at the time-and not a light woman) Had to call 911.
    Anyway, if you are on insulin, you might want to cut back on it just a hair, especially if you give yourself a shot after dinner. Just a thought. (Thus concludes “Doctor” Berigan’s unsolicited, free medical advice portion of the blog 😉 ) Of course, you know you should talk to a real doctor first, but a terrible time of year to have this happen!
    Funny, being sick always brought my Mom’s sugar way up, and it happens to me to!


  32. 33 savannahguy December 23, 2007 at 5:43 pm

    Try again…Oh, the humility!

    A Cool Calendar


  33. 34 journalist jimmy smith December 23, 2007 at 5:59 pm

    no, arthur blank! baby seal does not wish to coach your team. stop calling here! and who is the latest coach to embarrass the falcons? that smarty, marty. cowher, tuna, schott. maybe marge schott would take the job. what? dead? still, might work. the team of shame. that was stuff. now, baseball . . . area all endorsements still in place for the 2008 braves players? frenchy and delta, smoltz and haim habib? will chipper wear the mizuno emblem again? what is the record number of mizuno emblems worn by chipper jones in a game (caution: trick question)? and has keith brooking ever made an unassisted tackle? and how woeful these falcons have become! woeful. woe. woe. woe. but this is a braves blog – so here is more baseball talk. slider, change, cheese. three pitches thrown by braves pitchers.


  34. 35 mrgil December 23, 2007 at 6:09 pm

    Folks should not worry as I is very capable of being the warm up guy for Lew. Hey someone has to be the fifth starter. Just hope I don’t get sent down to the minors. I would hate to have to blog with the Chop Chick. I do have a back up plan as I have been working on a third pitch so maybe the next time to through the rotation I’ll have that strike out pitch when needed.

    Lew, an increase in stress from any source will always trigger your sugar consumption. Lots of medications will do it as it causes the sugar to metabolize in the liver. Berigan’s advice to contact your physician is quite valid. Something is triggering your sugar consumption. Don’t screw around with it.


  35. 36 mrgil December 23, 2007 at 6:10 pm

    I is????? See what I mean. Hung one right over the plate….


  36. 37 Bob, journalist December 23, 2007 at 6:17 pm

    Sir Guy, All I know ’bout Tufts is that Jonathan Tisch gave them a bunch of money … but this fellow Tobin’s explanation sounds more like that of a politician rather than a physicist. Granted the answer probably lies Newton’s first 2 laws but what doesn’t … most physicists are liberals!

    Besides, I wanted thee, not he, to partake of the pole … and all your friends too.

    Well, I got me a new computer … and will try to figure out how to plug it in and turn it on after supper … probably be after Christmas before I get my software installed.


  37. 38 mrgil December 23, 2007 at 6:18 pm

    Lew, the Nationals are building from the ground up. Last year they had one of the best drafts in the Major Leagues. Dukes and Milledge are projects. They can afford the risk. What was surprising was the number of decent pitchers they came up with out of no where. I think they will be better than last year.


  38. 39 savannahguy December 23, 2007 at 6:30 pm

    Esteemed Bob, Journalist I don’t know nuthin’ bout no political leanings at Tufts…but the article looked reasonable to my non-scientific eye. Actually, the report seemed to qualify how steroids might account for more home runs in a lay language sort’a way. Otherwise it would have surely been over my head.

    You think science fiction with a political slant? I didn’t see it.

    Now, I must try again with my own little attempt and posting a link:



  39. 40 Bob, journalist December 23, 2007 at 6:30 pm

    SirGuy, why did you ask the question about Polls? I was talking about poles … I mixed the one with ‘tuther ’cause of laziness, … but your and idiot if you don’t think I know the difference between fishin’ polls, vaulting polls and voting poles!

    Twas a good calendar … paid $21 for a 2008 Calendar yesterday … used to be free!


  40. 42 Bob, journalist December 23, 2007 at 6:34 pm

    Before leaving to fix supper, Sir Guy, … since you understand it, please explain it to me.

    I’ll check back later …


  41. 43 savannahguy December 23, 2007 at 6:35 pm

    Explain? The link stuff or the steroid stuff?


  42. 44 chrisklob December 23, 2007 at 6:38 pm

    Happy Festivus everyone!


  43. 45 savannahguy December 23, 2007 at 6:55 pm

    Or were you referring to the pole poll stuff? Yes…must be it.

    Well first, when fishin’ one may use a rod, unless during a thunder storm or if a baitcasting real is not required. When fishin’ fer shellcrackers, a poll is not only sufficient but preferred. Bamboo is reel nice in the south.

    Now, if we were to vote on our favorite poll, would we pole even those in the North, uh…poll? We can’t just leave a poll in the vault. Maybe a loch box. Too small for a lock ness but just write for an algore head.

    Are we straight on all this now? Your and idiot to. But I luv ya.

    Since we understand each other, can I go fix supper now?


  44. 46 mrgil December 23, 2007 at 6:57 pm

    Very interesting SG… Did you know that January 8th is Lee-Jackson Day in Virginia. Very politically incorrect now but still a holiday for state workers. I have bookmarked the calender for future use. Thanks


  45. 47 mrgil December 23, 2007 at 7:02 pm

    Make that January 18th… That one was just a tad bit outside….


  46. 48 savannahguy December 23, 2007 at 7:16 pm

    Hi Gil I didn’t know the date but I do know the event and those gentlemen being honored from that war of northern aggression.

    Will check back…must seek food now. Save me a seat. Maybe Klobber’ll have a drink with us.


  47. 49 Bob, journalist December 23, 2007 at 7:33 pm

    So Virginia now honors Lee Jackson with a holiday … I liked his paintings too but you’d think somebody would have stonewalled it since he was a Yankee.

    Sir Guy, I was referrin’ too the man from Tufts’ explanation when I politely asked for yours.


  48. 50 CL December 23, 2007 at 8:11 pm

    Hey, y’all!

    Just back from a wonderful birthday dinner of baby back ribs, baked potato and creamed spinach w/parmesan. I’ve shown Kelly your greetings and she is just thrilled to receive them! THANK YOU!!!

    Following family tradition, we rode around the county looking at Christmas and light displays for nearly 2 hours! Some people really invest a LOT in that. (I have a wreath up; does that count??)

    Home to a fresh cup of coffee and a few minutes here.

    Salty, I knew exactly what Berigan was doing. 😉 But don’t tell him! Shhhhhhhhh…


  49. 51 nacly December 23, 2007 at 8:21 pm

    You’re a sly woman, CL…very sly! I will tread very carefully in these parts henceforth…yes, I will!

    Oops…before much too late…Happy Birthday, CL ‘the Younger’! Has a Bob, J-esque quality about it…dontcha think? 🙂


  50. 52 CL December 23, 2007 at 8:22 pm

    A friend sent this – A Pilots Christmas

    Night before Christmas – Pilot’s Edition

    ‘Twas the night before Christmas, and out on the ramp,
    Not an airplane was stirring, not even a Champ.
    The aircraft were fastened to tie downs with care,
    In hopes that come morning, they all would be there.

    The fuel trucks were nestled, all snug in their spots,
    With gusts from two-forty at 39 knots.
    I slumped at the fuel desk, now finally caught up,
    And settled down comfortably, resting with my warmed up cup.

    When the radio lit up with noise and with chatter,
    I turned up the scanner to see what was the matter.
    A voice clearly heard over static and snow,
    Called for clearance to land at the airport below.

    He barked his transmission so lively and quick,
    I’d have sworn that the call sign he used was “St. Nick”.
    I ran to the panel to turn up the lights,
    The better to welcome this magical flight.

    He called his position, no room for denial,
    “St. Nicholas One, turnin’ left onto final.”
    And what to my wondering eyes should appear,
    But a Rutan-built sleigh, with eight Rotax Reindeer!

    With vectors to final, down the glideslope he came,
    As he passed all fixes, he called them by name:
    “Now Ringo! Now Tolga! Now Trini and Bacun!
    On Comet! On Cupid!” What maneuvers was he makin’?

    While controllers were sittin’, and scratchin’ their head,
    They phoned to my office, and I heard it with dread,
    The message they left was both urgent and dour:
    “When Santa pulls in, have him please call the tower.”

    He landed like silk, with the sled runners sparking,
    Then I heard “Left at Charlie,” and “Taxi to parking.”
    He slowed to a taxi, turned off of three-oh
    And stopped on the ramp with a “Ho, ho-ho-ho…”

    He stepped out of the sleigh, but before he could talk,
    I ran out to meet him with my best set of chocks.
    His red helmet and goggles were covered with frost
    And his beard was all blackened from Reindeer exhaust.

    His breath smelled like peppermint, gone slightly stale,
    And he puffed on a pipe, but he didn’t inhale.
    His cheeks were all rosy and jiggled like jelly,
    His boots were as black as a cropduster’s belly.

    He was chubby and plump, in his suit of bright red,
    And he asked me to “fill it, with hundred low-lead.”
    He came dashing in from the snow-covered pump,
    I knew he was anxious for drainin’ the sump.

    I spoke not a word, but went quickly straight to my work,
    And I filled up the sleigh, making sure not to spill like a jerk.
    He came out of the restroom, and sighed in relief,
    Then he picked up a phone for a Flight Service brief.

    And I thought as he silently scribed in his log,
    These reindeer could land in an eighth-mile fog.
    He completed his pre-flight, from the front to the rear,
    Then he put on his headset, and I heard him yell, “Clear!”

    And laying a finger on his push-to-talk,
    He called up the tower for clearance and squawk.
    “Take taxiway Charlie, the southbound direction,
    Turn right three-two-zero at pilot’s discretion”

    He sped down the runway, the best of the best,
    “Your traffic’s a DC-3, inbound from the west.”
    Then I heard him proclaim, as he climbed thru the night,
    “Merry Christmas to all! I have traffic in sight.”


  51. 53 CL December 23, 2007 at 8:26 pm

    Now, Salty, Berigan was well aware of the play on words –
    his: “I volunteer…….Carolina Lady!”

    See how that can be read?? 😆

    I just went with my interpretation!


  52. 54 chrisklob December 23, 2007 at 8:53 pm

    Berigan, nice job my friend! You’re setting the bar kind of high for us non-journalists though.

    SG, bar’s always open. Come on in my man. ‘Course I always know when someone’s getting into my good stuff because my avatar disappears!


  53. 55 lew614 December 23, 2007 at 8:55 pm

    Appreciate the concern Y’all, but I got it handled. It just ticks me off when my routine gets disrupted. I check my sugar ten-fifteen times a day, so I can compensate on a moment’s notice. Been dealing with this whole mess since 1986 and I’ve been on insulin since two months after the Braves lost to the Twins in 91. Gil-As for calling my doctor-I know as much or more about it than most doctors do-mine especially. I’m widely acknowledged by the local medical community as a success story and have figured most of the ins and outs. I eat well and follow all my protocols to the letter. I usually take long lasting (NPH) insulin), but have quick acting, as well, which I rarely ever use anymore. I’ve survived an ulcer that should have led to an amputation, but healed. I have researched all sorts of vitamin and mineral supplementation and have defeated what was considered profound neuropathy in feet and legs-all while my GP told me it couldn’t be done. Guess I showed him. He now pretty much just writes my prescriptions. I go to two eye doctors as well as a podiatrist. Like I said-thanks for the concern, but I got it under control.
    Feeling much better today. This new anti-viral Zicam is pretty good stuff.

    Gil-We’ll see about the Nats. They still have little offense. It is not known which of his two seasons was the abberration for Zimmerman. Dmitri young was diagnosed with type 2 diabetes and you can tell by looking at him that he does not have it under control. I don’t forsdee a repeat of last season’s career year.

    It all hinges on their pitching. If Patterson can return from a year off and the other young guys continue their development, maybe they can mount something. Still not sure, though. They way things are going, they may be more of a problem for the Mets than anyone. Not so much for the Braves and Phillies.


  54. 56 lew614 December 23, 2007 at 8:56 pm

    Gil-One more thing-I look forward to the iron cage match between Dukes and Milledge.


  55. 57 savannahguy December 23, 2007 at 9:03 pm

    Klobber So you are celebrating Festivus today? Not that there’s anything wrong with that. Wonder where the soup Nazi is?


  56. 58 nacly December 23, 2007 at 9:13 pm

    Lew, as you stated:”…and I’ve been on insulin since two months after the Braves lost to the Twins in 91.” See, Gil was right…stress induced! Or…depression? Just funnin’ ya! 🙂

    Chrisklob…perfect title for the lead in you’ll be writing somewhere down the line: “Bloggin’ and Klobbin'” The title alone will ID the author!

    CL, nice try…still a sly one you are!


  57. 59 savannahguy December 23, 2007 at 9:17 pm

    Carolina, very nice Pilot’s Christmas poem. That flyer has talent on the ground too.

    That calls for a little toddy to get my attitude in the right altitude. Chris, I’m having a signature rooskie…double Skyy, splash K and drop of skim. Here’s mud in yer eye, friend.

    On to baseball. I haven’t had the time to follow up on the Santana sweepstakes lately. Mets still trying to deal?


  58. 60 chrisklob December 23, 2007 at 9:21 pm

    SG, nah, I don’t know a thing about Festivus other than it was on Seinfeld. I just took a quick look at the calendar you posted earlier and realized that this was the fabled day.

    It sure did sneak up on me though. It’s Festivus and I don’t have a thing to wear! WWJSD? (What would Jerry Seinfeld do?)


  59. 61 nacly December 23, 2007 at 9:24 pm

    One beautiful December evening Pedro and his girlfriend Rosita were
    sitting by the side of the ocean. It was a romantic full moon, when
    Pedro said, ‘Hey, momacita, let’s do Weeweechu.’

    Oh no, not now, let’s look at the moon!’ said Rosita. ‘Oh, c’mon baby,
    let’s you and I do Weeweechu. I love you and it’s the perfect time,’
    Pedro begged.

    ‘But I wanna just hold your hand and watch the moon’ replied Rosita.

    ‘Please, corazoncito, just once, do Weeweechu with me.’

    Rosita looked at Pedro and said, ‘OK, one time, we’ll do Weeweechu.’

    (Get your heads out of the gutter!!!!) :-0

    Pedro grabbed his guitar and they both sang…..

    ‘Weeweechu a Merry Christmas, Weeweechu a Merry Christmas, Weeweechu a Merry Christmas, and a Happy New Year.’



  60. 62 chrisklob December 23, 2007 at 9:25 pm

    Never fear SG, I sell Skyy Vodka and Kahlua too. Have you tried the new flavors from Kahlua –French Vanilla and Hazelnut? Mighty tasty. They’ll give your White Russian a nice twist.

    And why does it have to be called a “white” Russian? Why y’all gotta make it about color, man?

    Only way Mets wind up with Santana is if Omar pulls a Canal Street card trick or shell game on them!

    Nacly, I like the title but I’m afraid that by the fourth or fifth paragraph I may be more Bogglign’ and Knobibn’, if you get my drift!


  61. 63 nacly December 23, 2007 at 9:27 pm

    Chris….to bogglign and knobibn is to be expected. It’s the author’s style…no one would expect less!



  62. 64 chrisklob December 23, 2007 at 9:29 pm

    Nacly, your Tigers lost last night, didn’t they? Probably just as well. It’ll make the eventual collapse once they hit ACC games that much easier to bear.

    Hey, I’m not knocking on your guys. I’ve been watching them for years (as you have). They always play well against the high schedule they have in the early part of the season. Once they get to the meat of their schedule it gets ugly.


  63. 65 chrisklob December 23, 2007 at 9:30 pm

    nacly, are you accusing me of BUI? (Bloggin’ under the influence)


  64. 66 savannahguy December 23, 2007 at 9:32 pm

    Chris, I was a pretty big Seinfeld watcher so I just happened to know what you were referring to. Classic tv there. That and Cheers then Raymond were staples in the SG household. Then 24 and Sopranos. Now House. I need a new sitcom or two, especially in this upcoming campaign year. I’m trying to wean myself from political junkiedom. Baseball is the only reality tv I’ll watch.

    Nacly, the 91 WS damn near gave everyone in Braves Nation heart failure. The 92, 93, 94 (Expos had it locked up), thank God for 95, then there was 96, 97…

    When you’re a Braves fan you have to be able to white-knuckle with the best. Hope we’ll have that opportunity for adrenaline this post season.


  65. 67 CL December 23, 2007 at 9:36 pm

    Thanks, SG!

    I was just thinking – few things cause a more lonely feeling than to look down on the darkened earth from 30,000 ft, seeing lights of cities and towns passing by, knowing that people in their homes were finishing Christmas preparations and looking forward to happily waking the next morning to a Christmas celebration together.

    Your own prospect was bringing in the last flight of the evening to a soon-to-be-deserted airport, going to yet another hotel and arising the next morning to no breakfast because the coffee shop was closed – due to the holiday.

    Then out to the same airport, another airplane, another series of flights, another few days before you finally get home again.

    The glamorous life.


  66. 68 nacly December 23, 2007 at 9:41 pm

    Klobber…do I need to accuse of BUI? 🙂

    I don’t need reminders of my Tigers BB misfortunes…oft times I wondered why even have a program. This year…feels different….last night’s scrimmage on the beach aside. They even tried to have a tougher schedule kicking off the season, but everyone’s having a down year. We’ll see…but I never hold my breath during BB, merely take the good, should it ever appear!

    SG…’91 is still my favorite WS of all-time…and game 7 spectacular. Yeah, I wanted to strangle Lonnie for getting duped, but the season was so unexpected I it enjoyed purely for what it was…a special moment. When they showed the cut of Lemke and Hrbeck (sp?) smiling at each other in the heat of battle, that’s was a snapshot for the ages. They were kids again, in adult bodies, and everything they’d dreamt could happen in their baseball future materialized that night. Funny, to this day, I don’t feel there was a loser in that series.


  67. 69 savannahguy December 23, 2007 at 9:42 pm

    It’ll make the eventual collapse once they hit ACC games that much easier to bear.

    Uh, Oh!!! Is the bravesandstuff blog about to see its first knock down drag out? Will Nacly pull out the your and idiot weapon? Oh, the horrors!

    But serially, Nacly, the Weeweechu is golden. I’ll have to put that in the files.


  68. 70 chrisklob December 23, 2007 at 9:47 pm

    Every year we hear of some random Christmas tree in some random house in some random, far away city that catches on fire and kills some random person or persons. Like many things in life, it seems that it will never happen to you or someone you know. But let’s face it, you and I are random people to most everyone else.

    That scenario became a reality in my neighborhood this past week. The house directly behind us caught fire. While the investigation is not complete, the fire started on or very near the Christmas tree and burned much of the living room. When the owners of the home came home from a short errand they opened the garage door and black smoke billowed out. It was in the garage that they found the 90 year old mother of the homeowner on the floor. They tried to resuscitate her but unfortunately, it was too late.

    Turn the trees lights off when you’re asleep or away from home. Under no circumstances should you ever plug too many strands of lights into one socket. Don’t let your live tree dry out. Use common sense. It might just save your life or the life of someone you know.


  69. 71 nacly December 23, 2007 at 9:47 pm

    SG, when one is BUI, I simply move on. Otherwise, it’d be like fighting with one hand tied behind me back! Likewise, I’d have to duck a bottle…but only if it’s empty! Klobber wouldn’t waste fine KC…to do so would indeed brand him as ‘your and idiot’!

    And, in truth, for me to deny the history behind his remark would label me similarly! He’s a Low Country dude, too, so he gets high marks in my book (where ever it is!).


  70. 72 CL December 23, 2007 at 9:48 pm

    Salty, I agree with you about ’91 – that was an incredibly special series. I recall people saying that it was a shame that either team had to lose. Dead even, terrific baseball.

    Ignoring our previous conversation completely – Salty, will you write a lead I can post after Lew’s? Gil is next, then Lew, then – you? Please?? With sugar on top?? 😉


  71. 73 chrisklob December 23, 2007 at 9:50 pm

    SG, while I’m not really a Clemson fan, I did attend there for a semester. No, not trying to pick a fight although drinking the Knob does make me mean.



  72. 74 savannahguy December 23, 2007 at 9:57 pm

    Nacly, you are so right. Who woulda’ thunk in 89 or 90 we’d have a 91 like that? I don’t remember the Lemke Hrbek pic, but I’ll never forget Hrbek lifting Gants leg off of first base right under the umpires nose. Classic Series it was. Our boys did good. Game of inches and umpires sometimes.

    CL, I can’t imagine not being home on Christmas. I’ve never considered business travel glamorous…I’ve done quite a bit of it. Once, I was sitting in my hotel after a week of long days, found myself channel surfing for pure escapism and it hit me…nothing in this room is what I want. My family isn’t here, my pets, my tv, my couch, my bed…so I checked out and drove home. But then I wasn’t 30,000 feet up when I decided to check out. Could be dangerous from way up there.

    Just one more reason this year is so special.


  73. 75 chrisklob December 23, 2007 at 10:02 pm

    Well, the Phillies have solved all their problems by signing So Taguchi to a one year deal worth $1m or so with an option. Is it just me or are the Mets and Phillies picking up castoffs and washups and journeymen and the Braves actually look like they might have helped themselves?

    I actually kind of liked Taguchi and thought he’d be a decent stop gap. He is versatile which is always a plus. But he’s no replacement for Rowand.


  74. 76 savannahguy December 23, 2007 at 10:05 pm

    Klobber, now yer gonna pull out the all cap, italic bold combo??? Want a piece of you? Hell yes sir…yer damn tootin.

    So lets get to it…I want a big piece of the next pork roast you throw on that BBQ smoker you got up there. AND, I’ll bring the Carolina Trifle and tater salad.


  75. 77 savannahguy December 23, 2007 at 10:12 pm

    few things cause a more lonely feeling than to look down on the darkened earth from 30,000 ft, seeing lights of cities and towns passing by

    Cl, I gotta tell ya…you got the makin’s for a damn fine country song there. Either that or it’s a once a year opine from the esteemed Santa hizzown self.


  76. 78 chrisklob December 23, 2007 at 10:16 pm

    SG, told ya I was into the bourbon again! Between posts I’m also doing some computer work so I don’t have to do it tomorrow. It’s a whole lot more interesting while drinking some KC!

    We’ve got one small bag left of the last batch in the freezer. Been a couple of months since I did it so I’ve got a feeling that I’m gonna have to do some more soon! I’ll let you know!


  77. 79 CL December 23, 2007 at 10:21 pm

    lol SG! I actually made a picture of that scene a year or so ago. ‘Cept I used a DC3 about 3000 above a small town. I’ll send it to you. Nobody ever sees this stuff I make, but I just enjoy doing it – in all the extra idle time I have! 🙂

    Salty, you didn’t answer….


  78. 80 mrgil December 23, 2007 at 10:27 pm

    My favorite pro football has finally decided to play like a real team. Todd Collins…Who have thunk it???? Now if the skins can hold on and beat the Cowboys next week.

    ’91 was one of those magical seasons. Even when the Braves lost game seven, I could not feel bad because they had given me such a wonderful ride that summer.

    Oh Lady of Carolina… Please extend my best Birthday wishes to young Kelly.


  79. 81 savannahguy December 23, 2007 at 10:30 pm

    Klobber That’s pretty scary and close to home on your neighbors house fire. Christmas trees are like gas infernos when they ignite. I cringe to think of one igniting in the home.

    We have a tradition here at the SG household…we disornament (word?) the tree on New Years eve and add it to the center of a bonfire we build in the back yard. That evening, right after dark usually, we light it up to celebrate the past year and usher in the new year. When lit, the blue spruce sends a powerful flame up about twenty feet. No starter fluid required.

    Then it’s on to roasted marshmellos, smores, libations and bonfire talk. Love it.


  80. 82 CL December 23, 2007 at 10:30 pm

    Thanks, Gil! Will do. She’ll always be 10-12 years old, so every birthday is super special no matter what the number is. I wish you could have seen her today: eyes sparkling with excitement, cheeks pink, big smile, giggling with anticipation of her dinner and evening. Priceless!


  81. 83 chrisklob December 23, 2007 at 10:32 pm

    The Charleston RiverDogs hold an annual Hot Stove Banquet during the winter months. In the past few years, keynote speakers have included Bobby Richardson, Tommy John and Jim Bouton.

    This year’s speaker is (drum roll please) JEFF FRANCOEUR!

    I was fortunate enough to see him play in Charleston and Myrtle Beach many times in 2003 and 2004. Very nice guy. Humble fellow too, at least in the lower minors. I remember talking to him one day after I’d just read an article about him. He was signing something for me and I told him that some scout had predicted that he’d have a career like Dale Murphy. His head snapped up and he looked at me and said that he hadn’t heard that. He was really touched and I could tell his reaction was genuine.

    Needless to say, I’m looking forward to hearing him speak on January 18.


  82. 84 chrisklob December 23, 2007 at 10:35 pm

    SG, that sounds like a nice tradition. Wish we could do it but we have too many trees for it to be safe.

    Do you have Savannah Kids?


  83. 85 CL December 23, 2007 at 10:41 pm

    Chris, Kahlua is the only alcohol I’ve tasted that I liked. Just can’t quite acquire the taste for the other stuff. Must be my heritage or something!

    There’s one exception: One year, Kelly’s great grandfather made some of the most wonderful grape wine. You couldn’t even taste alcohol in it, just a delicious smooth drink.

    One evening I poured about a half inch into a small stemmed juice glass, took a sip and put it on the table. I turned back to the stove to continue cooking the evening meal. After a bit, I turned to the table and reached for the glass but it was gone!

    There was 2-year old Kelly, sitting flat on her behind, a silly grin on her face; she held up the now empty glass and said, “More juice?”

    She was high as a kite. Had the silly giggles, couldn’t stand up. I prayed, Oh Dear Lord, please don’t let anybody come over here until the baby sobers up!


  84. 86 chrisklob December 23, 2007 at 10:44 pm

    CL, that’s a great story! Reminds me of our daughter, who’s 12 now picking up my wife’s vodka/cranberry when she was also about 2. The look on her face was priceless! And she never did it again either!


  85. 87 CL December 23, 2007 at 10:46 pm

    Chris, how great to be able to attend! PLEASE take notes and give a FULL report to us afterward!!! That would be terrific!!


  86. 88 mrgil December 23, 2007 at 10:47 pm

    I have been surfing in an attempt to gather info on Gregor Blanco. As best as I can determine, he is hitting .339 with an OPS of .408 and a slugging pct. of around .500. It may be a bit higher as my Spanish is not very good. It also appears he is second in the league in put outs. I think the kid may have a real shot at making the club. He is only 23 I think but he has been in the Braves organization since he was 16. Sometimes you never know when a kid will put it all together.


  87. 89 chrisklob December 23, 2007 at 10:47 pm

    I’ll be happy to do that. Actually, I’d already planned to. I hope he’s a better speaker than Tommy John was last year. He’s a really bad public speaker.


  88. 90 CL December 23, 2007 at 10:49 pm

    A few years later, she saw all these ads on tv for beer, wine, etc and got real curious about it. I figured I’d take care of this right now!

    I asked her if she wanted to try some of it. A bit startled, she said yes. So I reached waaaaay back in the cabinet and drug out some ancient cooking sherry, poured her a glass and said “Here drink this.”

    Turned her wrong side out! Never heard another word about drinking.


  89. 91 savannahguy December 23, 2007 at 10:56 pm

    Chris, no kids. Married too late in life, so we were the kids. Should have, because I love kids and they seem to like me. Kids and animals…

    I’ve pretty much raised my niece and nephew since my brother passed ten years ago. My nephew is in art college and niece has graduated and is in New York doing well in the off-Broadway theatre world. We’re very proud of both.


  90. 92 chrisklob December 23, 2007 at 11:02 pm

    Yet another great story CL!

    Reminds me when I was four and my parents and I were visiting my grandparents in Dallas. Everyone went out except for my grandfather and I. He was a big man and intimidating, not just for his size, but for his Polish accent. But he always had a gleam in his eye and loved his only grand child dearly.

    We were sitting in the yard by the kiddie pool. He was smoking a cigarette. I watched him as he took puff after puff. He eventually noticed and asked if I would like to have one! I answered in the affirmative so he took one out, lit it, and gave it to me.

    Now remember, I’m four, and have no idea what to do with a lit cigarette. But I put it in my mouth and tooka big drag. Immediately I started coughing like my insides were going to come out. He laughed and took me inside for a glass of water.

    He was not a cruel man, not by a long shot. I know he did that to teach me what a bad habit cigarettes are. I won’t say that I’ve never smoked a cigarette since, but I’ve never been a “smoker”.

    Unfortunatley, he died four years later from lung cancer.


  91. 93 CL December 23, 2007 at 11:11 pm

    I can just picture that, Chris! Sometimes that’s the best way to handle curiosity!

    My brother smokes. Constantly. And I do wish he would stop. He coughs and coughs and coughs, but he won’t listen. I truly fear for his future. It’s so terribly sad to lose someone when it could have been completely avoided.

    After 11 already. Tomorrow is going to be a humdinger! Then Christmas day. oooooooooooooohhhhh

    I can do this.

    Y’all have a great evening!


  92. 94 chrisklob December 23, 2007 at 11:13 pm

    SG, I’ll bet you would have been a great father! Being able to relate to children is a gift that not everyone enjoys. Even though my children are the most important thing in life to me, sometimes they frustrate me to tears. And, to be honest, they are very well-behaved. I can only imagine how hard it would be if they acted like some of the kids my wife teaches.


  93. 95 savannahguy December 23, 2007 at 11:21 pm

    Good night Ladies and gentlemen. I’ve got to hit the hay myself…long day and another tomorrow.

    Enjoyed visiting with you good folks.


  94. 96 berigan2electricboogaloo December 24, 2007 at 6:20 am

    Amazing to see how many posts there are every night between 9 and 11 PM!!!
    I was trying to catch up on Christmas movies. What is everyone’s favorites???
    First watched one that most people don’t know about Remember the Night, starring Fred MacMurray and Barbara Stanwyck, pre-Double Indemnity. Very sweet film about a shoplifter (Stanwyck) and the DA who bails her out for the Christmas holiday. Then, Watched Stanwyck again in Christmas in Connecticut on Turner, followed by Holiday Affair with Robert Mitchum and Janet Leigh…and 3 was not enough films in one night apparently, so my Dad and I watched the Cecil B. Demille’s 1927 Silent film, King of Kings! Whew!!!
    Don’t know if it’s possible to watch The Bishop’s Wife, A Christmas Carol, and It’s A Wonderful Life tomorrow, or not! 😉


  95. 97 berigan2electricboogaloo December 24, 2007 at 6:28 am

    Also stayed up wrapping gifts…..Anyone order gifts that haven’t arrived yet??? I am sweating bullets on some DVD’s I ordered that were guaranteed to be here by the 24th….Didn’t actually think it would be the 24th…and what if it isn’t???? My money back? A sincere apology??? 1 dollar off my next order over $100???


  96. 98 berigan2electricboogaloo December 24, 2007 at 6:55 am

    Hey guys and gals, try to be like me, and put all your comments in one post! :mrgreen:
    Seriously, unlike SG, I like seeing my words at the top of the blog! Not enough to have to write another blog….ever 😛 ….but enough to want to see this blog til 2008, and beyond!!! If I am ever called upon to write another one, I can then plagiarize myself! 8)


  97. 99 nacly December 24, 2007 at 8:37 am

    Good Mornin’, All! Checked out after the near ‘back-alley’ brawl with Brother Klob! Couldn’t handle the stress…and him smacking me in the face with the pending (at least historically) and very cold reality that is my Tigers’ basketball lore (perpetual horror show!) left me feelin’ a might lowly. Bad boy…not at all in keeping with the Christmas Spirit! Too much KC perhaps!?!

    So…upon catching up on the overnight banter…or should I say post-9 to 11 chit-chat (good catch, Berigan…and wow, lots of movies!), I felt a shiver up the spine with CL’s ‘sugar on top’ proposition! Like I didn’t see that coming…but far later than sooner! Homework for the New Year…yikes! Gil and Lew…please, take your time…this simply cannot occur until after the 1st. OK, ’tis the season for giving; you got me on this one, CL!


  98. 100 mrgil December 24, 2007 at 8:46 am

    Good morning all, Big day today as half of the thundering herd will be here for dinner today. The wife has been stress about it for a week now. Always makes her miserable. I swear I am going to rent a beach hose next year and hide out for the week. Call Domino’s or whomever and have a traditional Christmas meal of pizza like other modern Americans. 🙂


  99. 101 mrgil December 24, 2007 at 8:49 am

    Beach hose???? Large stocking perhaps??? Where is my editor?


  100. 102 mrgil December 24, 2007 at 8:50 am

    I am becoming to dependent upon spell check.


  101. 103 mrgil December 24, 2007 at 8:57 am

    Morning Salty, I spent much of the evening trying to find updated information on Martin Prado and Gregor Blanco. Tough slogging through those Spanish reports. And me barely literate in English. It appears however that both are doing well in the winter leagues. Very impressive number of outfield put outs by Blanco, It appears he is covering a lot of ground in center field.


  102. 104 nacly December 24, 2007 at 9:15 am

    And a Merry Christmas Eve morning to you, Gil! Seems senor Blanco is on a mission.

    Beach hose…made perfect sense to me…if you’ve ever heard a true Charleston (blue blood) accent, you’d understand, right Klobber?

    Wife stress…I know the feeling. Mine says she relishes the full day in the kitchen, and perhaps so, but it sure exhausts me watching her, and fearing her next, “Honey? Can you….(fill in the blank)?” My hamstrings are so tight from getting up and down repeatedly throughout the day! Rumor has it there are games and such on the telly…can’t prove it by me!


  103. 105 CL December 24, 2007 at 9:17 am

    ‘Morning, all! REAL busy day today but I wanted to be sure to wish each one of you a blessed and Merry Christmas for yourselves and your families. This celebration of Christ’s birth is one of pure joy and happiness. Without this event, there would be no hope for any of us.

    Salty, bravo!! Thanks for being on the top step of the dugout, bat in hand, ready for the on-deck circle!

    Gil, thought you had come up with some new beachwear!

    Berigan, that’s me in the other end of that boat! Gifts ordered, guaranteed delivery before Christmas – that aren’t here…. I told people that I would give what’s here on Christmas and if delivery was delayed they’d get ’em whenever they did arrive! I’m not getting stressed out over it. 😆

    “1 dollar off my next order over $100???” 😆 funny!


  104. 106 nacly December 24, 2007 at 9:23 am

    By the way, what’s on everyone’s menu tomorrow? JJS…ham, right, cheese…and Red Velvet cake?

    We’re going the duck route…a bird of a different feather! Still have smoked turkey from Thanksgiving (in the freezer)…no need for a repeat so soon. Did a goose once…that won’t be repeated. Creme brulee for dessert, or at least one of the desserts!

    OK…check my list once…twice…uh oh…looks like a full day’s work ahead of me. But like any self-respecting ostrich, I’ll pop my head in throughout the day. Enjoy the Spirit of the Season, folks!

    OH, Klobber…very sad on the Christmas tree fire…and a timely reminder for safety. Speaking of flames, I have an inter-faith household. You’ve seen nothing ’til the last night of Hannukah, and ten menorahs in full display! That’s a lot of candles…and warmth…glad we don’t have sprinklers in the ceiling!


  105. 107 savannahguy December 24, 2007 at 9:39 am

    Good Morning and a very Merry Christmas to all.

    If I get really lucky today starting and finishing my Christmas shopping I’ll see you guys before Santa arrives tonight. Since we’ll have a fire in the fireplace I’ll leave the back door unlocked. Wouldn’t want to be responsible for a scorched Cringle.

    Mr. Gil Taking a hose to Sid Bream and relatives at Christmas? Oh mercy. They say a hose doesn’t leave marks but not sure. Life can be a beach at times, but remember: pizza and goodwill toward man.

    Berigan You are a movie addict! Me too. Loved all those movies you watched but not sure I’ve seen the old silent one. My habit is cyclical; otherwise the couch would have me for sure. Ok, between you today and Lew yesterday I’m inspired to post my fave sci-fi/fantasy films. I’d like to hear yours too.


  106. 108 savannahguy December 24, 2007 at 9:55 am

    Nacly Merry Christmas and Happy Hannukah to you and yours.

    That was a close call between you and Klobber last night. Seems my previous blog post carried over to this one with the “hit avoidance”, crouching Tigers and Hidden BB Dragons. Close call but true gentlemen worked it out without any your and idiots arbitrarily thrown out. Whew…

    By the way, your observation about the sly CL blog editor’s tactic…perhaps there’s a middle ground. Berigan was, uh… “volunteered”. That works, eh?

    Now I see your menu for tomorrow…mmm. Duck is very good any time. Get the blowtorch out for that crème brulee. Ostrich too? Two entrees? Have you tried stuffing the duck with lemon, oranges, celery, sage, rosemary and baking? Try that sometime. Oh, one more thing…what time is dinner?

    At the SG house we do an exact repeat of Thanksgiving. Never seem to get enough the first time through the batting order.


  107. 109 lew614 December 24, 2007 at 9:57 am

    CremeBroulee and Duck-Better break out the Lipitor and make sure you don’t get your cholestoral tested for a couple of months!!!!!! Still….sounds pretty good to me. My problem is that it’s just Kathy and myself and she’s a vegetarian. No use doing much more than buying a package of BobEvan’s frozen turkey and a can of cranberry. Can’t afford the calories this time of year, anyway. That’s a sdhame, because I usually do the cooking on the traditional turkey dinner. Mom taught me how and she was a phenomenal cook.

    We all do what we can as parents. I always wondered whether or not I was a success, but I have a kid who spent seven years as a cop and another (his best friend, who calls me Dad) who’s still in the CoastGuard up CL’s neck of the wood. They call me several times a week and are both married to incredibly good women. I guess this old reprobate did OK on the child rearing thing. Not too bad for an Old Hippie reprobate.

    Ma’am-Trying to talk your brother into quitting won’t work until he decides it must be done. However, I smoked up to three packs a day for 33 years. It is now going on 13 years without a cigarette. I put those patches on one day and never took another puff. The lungs will never be the same, but if I hadn’t quit, with the diabetes, I would not be typing this to y’all right now. I’d be playing rock guitar on a cloud.


  108. 110 mrgil December 24, 2007 at 10:02 am

    Gee Salty, you don’t look Jewish. 🙂 May oldest grandson will turn 13 on the 26th. He informed his mother that he wanted to convert to Judaism and did not believe in Christmas. I ask him if he is ready for the circumcision? He is now pondering that question. 🙂

    I considered becoming a Zen Buddhist while in college but then broke up with the girl I was seeing and realized it was hormones and not faith that was leading down that divine path.

    I long ago determined that free will allowed for all of us to make choices in our lives and being the liberal conservative that I am (that is an oxymoron for you) believe good people will reap their just rewards in the end. Yes, I understand the doctrines of nearly all religions and understand there will be disagreement with that view by many. Call me “new” fashion but I have not earned the right to judge anyone else and feel if someone does not come willingly to a faith, the seeds will not grow.

    Thank you Carolina Lady for your blessing, the wife and I are attending church service tonight. Something we hardly ever had time for on Christmas Eve when the kids were growing up. Did I mention we have seven? All grown now, and 18 grandchildren and still adding. Oh the humanity.. 8)


  109. 111 mrgil December 24, 2007 at 10:32 am

    There was an interesting blurb in the Arizona Republic about Paul LaDuca not showing up for his own baseball camp. It appears that Stan Kastens of the Nationals was unaware LaDuca would be mentioned in the Mitchell report. Apparently he has been a steroids user since 1999. John Krunk said he could name about 200 players who were users right now. He best be careful making statements like that or he may find himself on the hot seat. The fifth amendment says you have the right not to incriminate yourself. Does not say you don’t have to rat out everyone else. That is called obstruction.

    And rumors to the effect that Many Acta will carry a chair and a whip into the Nationals locker room have been greatly exaggerate. However, if Milton Bradly shows up all bets are off as the National clubhouse would resemble a Mexican Cock Pit with three game roosters.


  110. 112 savannahguy December 24, 2007 at 10:33 am

    test…not working here


  111. 113 nacly December 24, 2007 at 10:34 am

    Fortunately, my health allows me to work out regularly, thus my friends/family…etc., are used to me saying I ‘run’ for my vices. Coupled with the announced benefits of a glass of wine and the occasional dark chocolate, moderation works on a number of fronts. I can’t/shan’t complain! Still, such menus are only a twice/thrice yearly treat!

    Gil: I don’t look Jewish…absolutely! Left that to my wife! And the kids, well, two definitely don’t…but are…the third, little doubt! Actually, we’re a ‘full circle’ family; wife’s mother was Irish-Catholic and converted back in the day (when ’twas essentially unacceptable). Many of my friends growing up in Charleston were Jewish, not that any of us ever gave it a moment’s thought. It was what it was! As for my kids, their growth and learning facilitated my own, the way it should be.

    Seven kids…18 grandchildren…no wonder your wife is stressing! Lots of mouths to feed…and joyful noise! You are blessed….tired at day’s end, I’m sure, but truly blessed! Enjoy!


  112. 114 savannahguy December 24, 2007 at 10:37 am

    Pardon me while I entertain myself in public with my favorite sci-fi movie post. I would personally recommend any of these to anyone that likes good movies. Had to get it out of my system it seems after talkin’ with Lew on the subject. Found lists that made it a bit easier to scroll through all films but I’m not sure it’s complete.

    Science Fiction (before 1970) The Day the Earth Stood Still – Invasion of The Body Snatchers – The Time Machine – War of The Worlds – The Incredible Shrinking Man -Fantastic Voyage – 20,000 Leagues Under The Sea – On The Beach – 2001 – A Space Odyssey – Planet of The Apes

    Science Fiction (after 1970) A Clockwork Orange – Slaughterhouse Five – Soylent Green – A Boy and His Dog – Close Encounters of the Third Kind – Star Wars (series) – Alien – Mad Max (series) – Blade Runner – E.T. The Extra Terrestrial – The Terminator (series) – The Fly – Jurassic Park (series) – The Fifth Element – Armaggedon – X-Men (series) – The Matrix (series) – Minority Report – Signs.

    Fantasy (before 1970) A Midsummer Nights Dream – The Wizard of Oz – It’s A Wonderful Life – The Seventh Voyage of Sinbad – Jason and The Argonauts.

    Fantasy (after 1970) Time Bandits – The Adventures of Baron Munchausen – Beetlejuice – Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon – The Lord of The Rings (trilogy) – Big Fish – Pans Labyrinth (all must see).

    Honorable Mentions (great kid stuff) Atlantis The Lost Continent (1961) – Dark Star – Fantasia.

    Sci-Fi/Fantasy TV Rod Serling’s Night Gallery is the all-time favorite. Also: Twilight Zone of course, Dr. Who, Star Trek and The Prisoner. Oh, and the kitchy, quirky Wild Wild West. That’s all I can think of right now…

    Next on the list to see: I Am Legend. Have to see that one on big screen. Anyone seen it?


  113. 115 savannahguy December 24, 2007 at 10:42 am

    Pardon me while I entertain myself in public with my favorite sci-fi movie post. I would personally recommend any of these to anyone that likes good movies. Had to get it out of my system it seems after talkin’ with Lew on the subject. Found lists that made it a bit easier to scroll through all films but I’m not sure it’s complete. These are all MUST SEE films, in my film critic opinion.

    Science Fiction (before 1970): The Day the Earth Stood Still – Invasion of The Body Snatchers – The Time Machine – War of The Worlds – The Incredible Shrinking Man -Fantastic Voyage – 20,000 Leagues Under The Sea – On The Beach – 2001 – A Space Odyssey – Planet of The Apes

    Science Fiction (after 1970): A Clockwork Orange – Slaughterhouse Five – Soylent Green – A Boy and His Dog – Close Encounters of the Third Kind – Star Wars (series) – Alien – Mad Max (series) – Blade Runner – E.T. The Extra Terrestrial – The Terminator (series) – The Fly – Jurassic Park (series) – The Fifth Element – Armaggedon – X-Men (series) – The Matrix (series) – Minority Report – Signs.

    Fantasy (before 1970): A Midsummer Nights Dream – The Wizard of Oz – It’s A Wonderful Life – The Seventh Voyage of Sinbad – Jason and The Argonauts.

    Fantasy (after 1970): Time Bandits – The Adventures of Baron Munchausen – Beetlejuice – Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon – The Lord of The Rings (trilogy) – Big Fish – Pans Labyrinth.

    Honorable Mentions (great kid stuff): Atlantis The Lost Continent (1961) – Dark Star – Fantasia.

    Sci-Fi/Fantasy (TV): Rod Serling’s Night Gallery is the all-time favorite. Also: Twilight Zone of course, Dr. Who, Star Trek and The Prisoner. Oh, and the kitchy, quirky Wild Wild West. That’s all I can think of right now…

    Next on the list to see: I Am Legend. Have to see that one on big screen. Anyone seen it?


  114. 116 lew614 December 24, 2007 at 10:49 am

    We were always (ostensibly) Lutherans, but I grew up in a Jewish neighborhood-the only Christian family around. I learned guilt at the feet of professional mothers-also found out it does not work if you refuse to acknowledge the guilt. OY!!!!

    Salty-Try taking 2,000MG (two capsules) of Fish Oil concentrate every day (you can get it cheap at WalMart-try the Spring Valley brand-made in US). It will work wonders on trigylcerides and cholesteral. Good for the heart, too. All diabetics should have it prescribed. Co Enzyme Q10 is also good for the heart, but considerably more expensive. Did you know that celery reduces blood pressure?

    The thing that has literally saved my life (diabetics have all sorts of peripeheral problems relating to blood pressure, circulation and nerve problems, chol., etc) was researching and implementing supplementation with Vitamins and minerals. Barraging with B vitamins saved my toe and reversed my peripheral neuropathy. Too bad they teach Doctors nothing of this in med school. They don’t want to listen, but are stunned with the results and are amazed when you show them the results of studies. Doctors-BAH!!!


  115. 117 mrgil December 24, 2007 at 10:50 am

    SG, how could you leave out my all time favorite, campy, scary and low budget but a classic “Night of the Living Dead”. I first saw it at the drive-in back in the ’60s ? Maybe early ’70s. I also remember “The Angry Red Planet” a sci-fi that had me afraid of the dark for years. 🙂


  116. 118 lew614 December 24, 2007 at 10:52 am

    Atlantis:The Lost Continent. I remember my Mom and Step Dad loaded all us kids in the station wagon and took us to the drive in to see that in double feature with John Wayne’s North to Alaska. Strange combination, but I still remember it all these years later.


  117. 119 mrgil December 24, 2007 at 10:53 am

    Lew… a Lutheran… That explains it. The original rebels.. 🙂


  118. 120 lew614 December 24, 2007 at 10:55 am

    Let us not forget Excalibur and Stargate. I also like all the old adventure movies like Raiders of The Lost Ark, The Phantom and my all time favorite movie The Man Who Would Be King. The original Highlander was pretty good, too.


  119. 121 savannahguy December 24, 2007 at 10:56 am

    Off to play Santa. Yes. I know…last minute. Back if can later. I’ll have my red hat…


  120. 122 savannahguy December 24, 2007 at 10:58 am

    one last…yes Lew and Gil, those are good ones too. You wouldn’t believe how many very good titles I left off just to make the list short and only the best of my favorites. It was difficult…so many good films.

    Santa abides…


  121. 123 mrgil December 24, 2007 at 11:04 am

    SG: “scorched Cringle” Do you mean old “Crispy” Cringle?…


  122. 124 nacly December 24, 2007 at 11:05 am

    There’s no $$ in a holistic approach…sad, huh? Funny, though, when you dig behind the scenes, a number of wonder drugs have their roots based there. My wife was put on Celebrex…very costly…a number of years ago. Found out glucosamine works just as well, if not better, and far cheaper. Fish oils…good stuff…don’t take it as regularly as I should…my wife is much better. Celery…didn’t know that one…and I like to munch on it…will have to do so more frequently!

    Gil: ding, ding, ding! Original rebels…too funny!

    SG: The Fifth Element – not much theater play, but one of Bruce Willis’ best…really entertaining. Ruuuuby Rod!!! C C C Corbin, my man….g g g got no matches! Only my daughter can talk as fast as Chris Tucker!

    Stargate SG-1 – really solid series…started out on ShowTime…based on the film. As a family, we’d all rush home after Friday night services to watch the show (@ 10). Did that for years…still watch reruns on Sci-Fi channel. The last year or two the writing began to slip, but until that point, the characters’ chemistry was so tight…lots of unspoken communication/body language rarely seen in shows.


  123. 125 mrgil December 24, 2007 at 11:06 am

    Later guys… the “Boss” summons me for some herculean tasks. Catch ya’ll on the flip..


  124. 126 lew614 December 24, 2007 at 11:27 am

    Yeah-We Dutch Lutherans are a hard headed bunch, for sure. The Hartmans left Holland round 1720 and moved to Pennsylvania-something to do with Huegonauts and persecution. Couple that with the fact that Mom’s family (documented in book form) were Glaswegians who settled the Eastern Shore of Maryland in 1641 and maybe you get an explanation of why I’m such a hard headed, stubborn Old Goat. Scots and Dutch-OH The Huimanity!!!!!


  125. 127 journalist jimmy smith December 24, 2007 at 11:35 am

    Merry Christmas, bloggers! and Happy Hanukkah, too! this journalist has been reading the posts overnight and this morning and jimmy smith has found a gem! that’s right, a post that has staying-power. words that will take on life of their own. this post is from lew and contains the words: saved my toe. much like saved my bacon, only saved my toe.

    oh, the potential for “saved my toe” – when soriano comes in and strikes out the side, soriano saved my toe. when bloggers found chop chick’s blog closed down and nowhere to blog, carolina lady saved my toe.

    has the potential to be right up there with has did, clary, and not to be trifled with. but, those were from another blog and another time. saved my toe is relevant to the bravesandstuff blog and carries greater significance.

    now, too many strings of light strung together. must be avoided. and whatever became of grinch? out stealing christmas? no christmas cheer for this blog? no warm greetings? grinch must come and save the toe of this blog.

    and what will be served at journalist jimmy smith’s house on christmas day? old ugandan favorites. banana matoke, millet bread, cassava root, sweet potatoes, chicken and beef stews,
    and freshwater fish. wash it down with a cup of waragi. also, banana pudding prepared by diane lane for dessert.

    and joy to the world and best wishes to all bloggers. good holiday wishes to all.


  126. 128 journalist jimmy smith December 24, 2007 at 11:38 am

    jimmy smith knew a glaswegian family back in uganda. alice and gokys glaswegian.


  127. 129 journalist jimmy smith December 24, 2007 at 11:39 am

    gorkys glaswegian.


  128. 130 nacly December 24, 2007 at 11:42 am

    Gorkys Glaswegian and Sci-Fi…goes together, don’t you think? 🙂

    SG – forgot to mention…yes, lemon, onions, rosemary stuffed in the duck. You’re on the mark…and a honey/brandy glaze drizzled over the duck right before serving…crispy, very crispy…and lean. No fat allowed!

    Gotta run…catch you all later in the day! Cheers!


  129. 131 journalist jimmy smith December 24, 2007 at 11:47 am

    can only think of donald duck at this time.


  130. 132 lew614 December 24, 2007 at 11:52 am

    I had a call from The Grinch last night. All is not well in Whoville. His Mom was robbed at Publix last night of purse, cell phone and apparently, many Christmas presents. He called me back but I didnt get the message until too late to call him back. I’ll try to call in a bit and see if things have toned down somewhat and if perhaps, they may have caught the culprits, who were NOT Green. He was quite upset and Mom was in much worse shape.


  131. 133 Bob, journalist December 24, 2007 at 12:21 pm

    Merry Christmas Sir Guy and the Savannah Fly! … methinks the great Mr. Sam Jaffe, ably supported by Michael Rennie, Patti Neal, Hugh Marlowe and little Billy Gray done real good and would appreciate your placing them at the top of the list where they belong! However, Vincent Price would have been offended to see one so fly framiliar acknowledge Jeff Goldblum’s performance over his!

    Well, now I have to go back to the computer store for a monitor adapter … Merry Christmas all!


  132. 134 mrgil December 24, 2007 at 12:50 pm

    Merry Christmas again, That is awful news Lew. I hope Grinch’s mom was not physically assaulted too. Several years ago my mother had her purse stolen out of her shopping cart while at Food Lion. The security camera tape clearly showed the individual taking the purse while my mother was looking through the meats. The police found her purse outside the store sans her wallet. She lost about $3 in cash, her driver’s license and her Medicare card. The thief did not bother to look in all the compartments of the purse or she (yes, it was a woman) would have discovered the $6,000 she had in cash with her.

    A valuable lesson for my mom to learn. It is unfortunate that we hear of so many evils in the world especially this time of year. Lew, when you speak with Grinch, please give him our regards.


  133. 135 journalist jimmy smith December 24, 2007 at 12:56 pm

    jimmy smith has an idea 💡 for this blog. international. must go international. need some international bloggers with international posts. good time of the year for this if we can get it started.

    and merry christmas to the grinch family. it is sad that someone would rob mama grinch at christmas. best present of all is that mama grinch was not hurt and can still enjoy christmas with grinch.

    and blog harmony – too much harmony here. need some disagreement and some talk about bobby cox. and here is a bobby cox joke:

    q. what’s the difference between boogers and broccoli?

    a. bobby cox doesn’t eat broccoli.


  134. 136 mrgil December 24, 2007 at 1:04 pm

    No money in the holistic approach? You have not been to a GNC lately have you? 🙂

    But on the whole you are correct, just not as much money….

    For all you folks that are blessed with a fast metabolism, you know who you are, the ones that can eat four helpings of mashed potatoes and remain sleek as a gazelle. I will laugh as you lie starving during the next famine as I know I shall be able to live for months or the reserve my body demands it must have. I have learned that the body protects fat cells even more tenaciously than it does brain cells. That could explain a lot in my posts…. I may become as dumb as a box of rocks but I will look good… 8)


  135. 137 mrgil December 24, 2007 at 1:12 pm

    Controversy??? You could invite Robert… on Metro man or Anders… No, would rather have the peace and quiet. Or Lew could invite McFann (nee Paladin) or I could send an invite to David O’Brien just to heckle jimmysmith.

    No, jimmy, I think the bad crowd will find us soon enough. Enjoy while you can. Now, about Diane Lane…… Don’t care if she can boil water. 🙂


  136. 138 Bob, journalist December 24, 2007 at 1:17 pm

    One last thing before leaving … for those few who might not know, and be interested … the singers in the Santa/raindeer rendition of White Christmas were the “Drifters“, a few years back in 1954 when songs were still sung where you could understand the words!


  137. 139 journalist jimmy smith December 24, 2007 at 2:38 pm

    gil, jimmy smith was talking about lively conversation and disagreement on baseball matters – not ill manners and disagreeable behavior. difference. on some blogs everyone is encouraged to think alike and come to the same coclusions. on the bravesandstuff blog some can like bobby cox and some cannot and both can post here without the words, shut up and your and idiot. now, more bobby cox . . . opening a bakery soon. all raisins, all the time. and that snot all.


  138. 140 flbravesgirl December 24, 2007 at 3:43 pm

    Hello, friends! Hope all is well with you & yours & everyone is ready for Santa. Baby seal, (excuse me, Chop Seal) were you good this year?

    I had an email from Grinch & things are not festive there. Fortunately Mom Grinch was not hurt but they were both understandably very upset. He was going to be away from the computer today but I did pass along that y’all had been asking after him.

    Time to see if my cake has cooled. I’ll try to pop in tonight.


  139. 141 nacly December 24, 2007 at 3:51 pm

    Gil…agree on GNC…I was talkin’ docs and pharma companies.

    On the topic of blog temperament, we agree to disagree, or gloss over a topic which may cause angst (like that word). However, presence for many here is the ‘company we keep’; others are welcome…some much more begrudgingly than others! 😦

    Bob, J…the Drifters tones were quite apparent, actually…still came across as Bing doing Elvis, though…but that’s just my rampant imagination run amuck!

    Off for final errands…be good, all!


  140. 142 lew614 December 24, 2007 at 4:18 pm

    Angst? OH!!The Humanity!!!!


  141. 143 CL December 24, 2007 at 4:57 pm

    Luke 2
    1 Now it came to pass in those days, there went out a decree from Caesar Augustus, that all the world should be enrolled.

    2 This was the first enrollment made when Quirinius was governor of Syria.

    3 And all went to enroll themselves, every one to his own city.

    4 And Joseph also went up from Galilee, out of the city of Nazareth, into Judaea, to the city of David, which is called Bethlehem, because he was of the house and family of David;

    5 to enroll himself with Mary, who was betrothed to him, being great with child.

    6 And it came to pass, while they were there, the days were fulfilled that she should be delivered.

    7 And she brought forth her firstborn son; and she wrapped him in swaddling clothes, and laid him in a manger, because there was no room for them in the inn.

    8 And there were shepherds in the same country abiding in the field, and keeping watch by night over their flock.

    9 And an angel of the Lord stood by them, and the glory of the Lord shone round about them: and they were sore afraid.

    10 And the angel said unto them, Be not afraid; for behold, I bring you good tidings of great joy which shall be to all the people:

    11 for there is born to you this day in the city of David a Saviour, who is Christ the Lord.

    12 And this is the sign unto you: Ye shall find a babe wrapped in swaddling clothes, and lying in a manger.

    13 And suddenly there was with the angel a multitude of the heavenly host praising God, and saying,

    14 Glory to God in the highest, And on earth peace among men in whom he is well pleased.

    15 And it came to pass, when the angels went away from them into heaven, the shepherds said one to another, Let us now go even unto Bethlehem, and see this thing that is come to pass, which the Lord hath made known unto us.

    16 And they came with haste, and found both Mary and Joseph, and the babe lying in the manger.

    17 And when they saw it, they made known concerning the saying which was spoken to them about this child.

    18 And all that heard it wondered at the things which were spoken unto them by the shepherds.

    19 But Mary kept all these sayings, pondering them in her heart.

    20 And the shepherds returned, glorifying and praising God for all the things that they had heard and seen, even as it was spoken unto them.

    Merry Christmas


  142. 144 berigan2electricboogaloo December 24, 2007 at 5:31 pm

    Man, you guys are posting like crazy I see! I see something to comment on, then someone else talks…and I forget what I was going to reply about in the first place! 🙄 where is the forgetful smilie???


  143. 145 berigan2electricboogaloo December 24, 2007 at 6:07 pm

    Did you get all your gifts in the mail today???I got some but, not all! What is kinda-sorta funny is one of the earliest orders, from the 12th(Well within Amazon’s window to get items by the 24th) didn’t get here!!! GRRRRR! I also didn’t get one cheap DVD set from Deepdiscount.com either! Double GRRRR. Never had this problem before. I wonder if the weather has anything to do with this? Amazon shows the order got to Atlanta on the 23rd, but that’s where it stayed. Perhaps I can go to the 24 hr P.O. near the airport and just pick it up!


  144. 146 CL December 24, 2007 at 6:28 pm

    Just taking a 3-min break –

    Nope, the gifts did not arrive. But the sun will come up tomorrow and the gifts will arrive at some point in time and will be given then. No sweat! 😆

    I did not have a second container of Smart Balance as I had thought.
    Most recipes don’t really need as much butter as they say.
    I did have a ham in the freezer and did not need the one I bought
    Having 2 hams is very good. I’ll figure out why later.
    More mayonnaise can be scraped out of the last container than you’d think.
    The grocery store closed :20 ago.
    It’s all going to be all right.

    Gotta go make that asparagus souffle. Doesn’t need that much butter, after all!


  145. 147 nacly December 24, 2007 at 7:42 pm

    Humanity’s angst! Just representin’ Scoots! Where is he, anyways?


  146. 148 mrgil December 24, 2007 at 8:28 pm

    And just what part of the cow do you get the angst! from?


  147. 149 mrgil December 24, 2007 at 8:41 pm

    And Jimmysmith wanting stimulating conversation…. Try dropping the keyboard in the hot tub like Journalist Bob…. could be very stimulating….. As for disagreement, don’t worry, will be plenty once we have some information from hence to disagree. 🙂 I am preparing to jump on Lew’s assessments as we write, not that I expect to change Lew’s mind about anything but could become stimulating. 8)

    Now, I am very thankful that the first half of Christmas is over….. Part two will continue tomorrow at my mother’s house. I am hoping my brother and his family shows up.

    The boss is in the kitchen attempting to get her world back in order. Poor thing, she was so stressed out today. I have learned to roll with the punches. Maybe it is why it was such an enjoyable day… Of course I have run out of Jameson, hummmm. Not good, will have to get by with inferior spirits.

    PS… When my eldest grandson learned he could not have ham if he was to become Jewish he has had a change of heart…. Wow, kids can be had cheap these days 🙂


  148. 150 mrgil December 24, 2007 at 8:46 pm

    Carolina Lady, Have you the opportunity to visit the Millennium Theater in Lancaster PA.?


  149. 151 lew614 December 24, 2007 at 9:24 pm

    Gil-It’s not a cut of meat, it’s a type of beef-haven’t you seen all the restaurants offering Angst Beef? Supposed to be real good. Thank you. I’ll leave now.


  150. 152 CL December 24, 2007 at 9:25 pm

    Hi, Gil! No, I haven’t.


  151. 153 Chop Seal December 24, 2007 at 9:27 pm

    yes, fbg i hav been gud. christmas morning i hope i have a new harley and sum cigars so i can be a reel beet writer. i asked santa and the grate seel. i am looking for a reel old girlfriend and some cheez and a cat to live with me. jimmy smith says i must remain nice though, so no bad manners. meery christmas to fbg from chop seal. shoot me some cookies sometime.


  152. 154 berigan2electricboogaloo December 24, 2007 at 9:46 pm

    Gosh Gil, didn’t I read you have 14 Children, and 72 grandchildren? How do you keep track of them all??? Do they have name tags that say, hello my name is_____? 😛


  153. 155 berigan2electricboogaloo December 24, 2007 at 9:50 pm

    Well, I am able to post here real quick like since my Dad got a call from a friend wishing him a Merry Christmas(1:35 into It’s A Wonderful Life-I’ve only seen the film 90-100 times, so can’t miss a second)
    So, in case anyone else checks in before bedtime, have a very merry Christmas!!! 😀


  154. 156 berigan2electricboogaloo December 24, 2007 at 10:01 pm

    Hmmm…..Pa is still on the phone. Staring at a frozen picture of Jimmy Stewart walking out of a room is not too interesting….

    SG That was an interesting list of Sci-Fi films! Funny, my tastes in movies in general is for 1950 and earlier films, but I tend to like the later films on your list.
    It’s a Wonderful Life is in a way a fantasy film. When I first saw the film(Back on PBS stations, remember how they used to run it?) I always saw the last hour of the movie it seemed. So, it seemed like a twilight zone episode, right down to the eerie music when he sees what it’s life would be like for everyone if he had never been born…


  155. 157 mrgil December 24, 2007 at 10:37 pm

    berigan, Don’t laugh, you are not that far from the truth, keeping up with the kids is not too tough but wives, husbands and significant others can sometimes be confusing. Grandkids can be difficult too. Sometimes I don’t know my angst from a hole in the ground. After the first five or six it becomes a blur.

    Carolina Lady, The Millennium Theater in Lancaster, PA puts on biblically based productions. It is worth the trip and the Amish country is beautiful. The wife and I try to make it once or twice each year.


  156. 158 flbravesgirl December 24, 2007 at 10:56 pm

    “The pound cake was sprinkled on its icing with care…” 🙂

    I haven’t had to improvise yet, CL, but there’s always tomorrow. There’s bound to be something I was sure I had enough of. It’s just the 4 of us so we’re having a fairly simple dinner & I’ve done everything that can be done ahead. Saving the Red Velvet cake for the larger family gathering we’re having over New Year’s in Georgia.

    Now, I probably won’t be online ’til late tomorrow so… Merry Christmas, dear friends! I hope you all get presents you really want, yummy dinners & well-behaved relatives!


  157. 159 savannahguy December 25, 2007 at 12:14 am

    First? Last?

    It’s officially Christmas. He who is last will later be first…

    Friends are gone, wife in bed, raccoons fed and just put the cookies and milk out for a visit later by the big guy in the red suit…no, not Honorable Southern (miss him) and just dropped in to see what condition your condition was in. Should a little touch of Klobbers Knob Creek be added to the mix? Legal to drive a sleigh after Knob? As long as not sleighed should be fine. Just leave one wee little nip then. No nick nick for St. Nick. Just nic. Belly warmer is all.

    Would it be safe to advertise on blog if cheese and pie was added to Santa’s plate? Would a certain Journalist Jimmy drive to the coast for such a tempting platter? Better not, just to be safe. Just cookies and milk.

    Now, if Chop Seal just had a few reindeer and a sleigh…think of the fringe benefits. Flbravesgirl is always visited first on Christmas Eve. Wonder why?

    And Gil’s advice has been heeded. No Crispy Cringle tonight. The guests are gone, wife in bed and the fire is almost out. Another few hours and it’ll be cool enough for safe descent. De scent is quite aromatic. Just like this post. Now ascending…

    CL, thanks for posting Luke. It was the epitome of priceless. Well done. Warm hugs to Kelly and Mrs. Grinch too.

    Berigan, actually Wonderful Life (my favorite all-time movie) is a fantasy, but I didn’t mention it because it can hardly be categorized. Same with Wizard of Oz. So many great films, so little time. Music is even tougher to edit down.

    Here are the lists I worked from:

    <a href=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_science_fiction_films<Sci-Fi
    and <a href=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_fantasy_films<Fantasy

    Bob, Journalist…hugs to Carol. You’re right about Vincent. Actually the Vincent Price versions of Fly were classics. Just tried to pick the best films from a critical pov. Mr. Fly was inspired by them and the new one, Ogden Nash and U2’s Bono with The Fly character on Achtung Baby and others too numerous to mention. So many flies, such little time. Besides, there’s a little fly in each of us. Mr. Fly has many genes…

    And then Groucho, “Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.”

    Yo…Lew, you started it…(transition to silly) Angst Beef? Why yes…I think I’ve heard of it. Opposite of Kobe Beef right? With Kobe, the cows calmly stand around grazing in a peaceful sweet-grass pasture, whiling away the hours while pretty Japanese women massage them with wine and spice. All in all, not a bad way to go.

    Angst Beef on the other hand, are shoved around a cattle yard, getting slapped on the butt with hot brands and having cowpokes yell, “your and idiot” and “shut up and get fat” and all rudeness such as that. Not very peaceful. Makes’em a little tougher. They wind up at Burger King I think, not sure.

    Almost forgot…Nacly, add a little salt and pepper to the duck. Mostly salty. A little Foie Gras on the side for good measure and a nice Pinot Noir to finish.

    Is Scribe in Vegas again? Since he’s gone, I’ll borrow his patented signoff signature. Hope he won’t mind. I’ll return it tomorrow. If I forgot anyone here, please forgive. It’s been an honor and a pleasure to get to know you here and there. Better get sleep now, or I’ll be eating cookies.

    Merry Christmas to all and to all a good night.

    Santa abides



  158. 160 savannahguy December 25, 2007 at 12:16 am


    <a href=”http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_science_fiction_films”<Sci-Fi
    and <a href=”http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_fantasy_films”<Fantasy


  159. 161 savannahguy December 25, 2007 at 12:17 am

    oh well…anticlimax. Copy and paste will do if you want to visit the sites. G’nite.


  160. 162 morpheus45 December 25, 2007 at 2:19 am

    Merry Christmas, Everyone! All except the Who’s in Whoville; I can’t stand that singing. If they’d just learn a little Iron Maiden…


  161. 163 mrgil December 25, 2007 at 2:46 am

    Grinch, hope your mom is okay…. Merry Christmas dude….


  162. 164 berigan2electricboogaloo December 25, 2007 at 5:56 am

    Hey Grich Merry Christmas to you as well! Sorry to hear about your Mom being robbed….but, after seeing on the news that 2 people were killed Christmas eve in a 2 car crash, things could be a lot worse!!!!


  163. 165 berigan2electricboogaloo December 25, 2007 at 5:57 am

    Savannah Guy, It’s A Wonderful Life is your favorite film??? You have excellent taste!!! 😛


  164. 166 nacly December 25, 2007 at 8:54 am

    A very Merry Christmas morning to all!

    Nice work last night SG…oh, and will surely add (some) pepper! Grinch, glad you are with your mom…certainly a traumatic moment, but you’re there…no better better tonic for her!

    Berigan…with you…I always seemed to catch the last hour of ‘It’s a Wonderful Life’, including last night!

    Blessings, all!


  165. 167 Chop Seal December 25, 2007 at 10:45 am

    meery christmas, everybody! i can smell the banana pudding cooking in the kitchen. doesn’t smell like banana pudding, though, and may be diane lane’s last chance. now santa report:

    no harley and cigars for this seal – only fish. no cheese samplers – more fish. no old girlfriends – fishy. chop seal will still be a beet writer but with no bad habits or ill manners.

    and who wants a girlfriend the boy scouts always want to help across the street?

    great seal is due here in a few minutes for christmas get-together (surprise from jimmy smith).

    meery christmas! happy hanukksah!

    holy, day, remember. God bless to all.


  166. 168 williamwallace December 25, 2007 at 10:59 am

    Howdy friends. Just wanted to wish you guys a Merry Christmas. It’s been really nice reading all of you over here. The number of posts and page hits you guys are getting is darn impressive. I won’t impose much more beyond this but just wanted to wish you all a Merry Christmas and thank each and every one of you for always making things fun and interesting.

    Lew, I gave the Jeter Wurlitzer to my pops last night. He loved it. So, there are not enough thanks I can give ya.

    As for pops, he was heartbroken about Pettitte being named in the Mitchell Report although he was not surprised at all. He had been telling me for years he knew what Pettitte and Clemens were up to. People like Pettitte just don’t gain 5 mph on their fastball past the age of 25.

    He was actually giddy that Clemens was named. He’s always hated Clemens and never wanted Clemens to win a game for the Yankees. He’s still bitter that Boggs stole Mattingly’s batting title in 1986 by sitting out and that Clemens stole Mattingly’s MVP in 1986. So, Clemens being named so prominently made his year. No, scratch that, made his decade. He said imagine what kind of Hall of Fame numbers Mattingly could have put up if he went on roids and HGH like those bums Pettitte and Clemens instead of having his back go out on him in 1989/1990 and having all of his thunder taken away from him.

    Even as a Yankees fan, he still believes Chipper never used roids despite many Braves fans feeling different. He loves to say that guys like Chipper, Griffey, Mattingly, Will Clark are real ballplayers. Great in their twenties until the injuries start taking their toll in their thirties like it has always been before the days of PEDs. He’s amazed that Chipper is still going so strong despite all the injuries. But he credits that to Chipper never getting a gut like Clark, Mattingly, and Griffey did. But he’s a little biased in that regard since he blames all of his woes on allowing himself to get a gut.

    The only wish he has now is that he could go back in the time machine and knock Boggs off that police horse in 1996. But he was also very happy that the core of the team – Posada, Jeter, Bernie, Oneill, Tino, Mariano Rivera were not named.

    Well, you guys are Braves fans, so you don’t care about that but just thought I would mention it since this was the conversation that was stimulated over lasagna last night on Christmas Eve after presenting the Jeter Wurlitzer Lew crafted for my pops.

    Alright, Merry Christmas.


  167. 169 mrgil December 25, 2007 at 12:37 pm

    williamwallace, Welcome and Merry Christmas to you too. Great post, your pop’s insight may be right on. Please stop in more often….


  168. 170 flbravesgirl December 25, 2007 at 10:14 pm

    WW, nice to see you. Don’t be a stranger.

    So was Santa good to everyone? SavannahGuy, Mr. Claus & I go way back. I was just re-reading his “autobiography” (which I recommend to anyone who loves Christmas).


  169. 171 mrgil December 25, 2007 at 11:00 pm

    Greeting all, I hope your day was as full as mine. Whew…. Though schedule to keep trying to keep everyone engaged. All and all however, a pleasant day. my goodness how the grandchildren grow so quickly. A fine looking lot they are too. Santa is exhausted and headed to bed at a decent hour. See you folks tomorrow.


  170. 172 CL December 26, 2007 at 9:36 am

    ‘Morning, everyone! Whew! Made it through another one! 😆

    Gil, sounds like y’all had a grand time!! Excellent!!

    A few chores to be done – will check in later!


  171. 173 mrgil December 26, 2007 at 12:11 pm

    jimmysmith requested stimulating baseball conversation to pick up on the blog, sooooo, I am going to throw one of those softball topics out there for everyone to pounce on. I have been watching with interest Gregor Blanco’s progress this winter in the Valenzuela winter league. I hate to make a comment on a player I have not either seen repeatedly on TV or several times in person.

    TV takes away a lot of the feel you get for a player because it is hard to judge things like the jump they get on the ball off the bat or even their true speed. Now, TV does allow for you to get an idea after they show you repeatedly different angles or views of a play. I guess it would be a bit like watching film. Watching live performances lets you get an idea of a player’s reaction time and speed. I think it is the speed aspect that is lost the most on video and TV.

    Now back to my original rabbit…. Last year I saw Gregor play six times, he has above average speed and a plus arm. He is speedy enough to steal but I think he is just too young to have figured out that it is not speed alone that allows for one to be successful in committing larceny on the base paths. Like everything else it is a learned skill. Having to remember a pitcher’s move to the plate and pick off moves, a catcher’s ability and sometimes being just plain lucky. Being a threat to steal is beneficial but also knowing when to steal versus taking the bat out of the hands of your best hitter. I think Blanco is a smart player and if the Braves staff can work with him, he could be a very good base runner. It is an area however, that the Braves have lacked emphasis on since 1985.

    The only question mark I really had about Gregor was his ability to hit major league pitching. Isn’t that always the question? Gregor is hitting about 100 points higher than Infante in the same league. Can one say it doesn’t mean anything for one to hit for a high average in winter ball when another player expected to make the roster doesn’t?

    Bottom line, while starting two rookies in the outfield may be a stretch, I am going to be a Blanco booster this spring. It’s going to be an interesting spring.


  172. 174 morpheus45 December 26, 2007 at 2:06 pm

    Howdy, all! As usual, I’m on my way out the door; just wanted to say thanks for all the well-wishes for mom. She’s fine, and we had a wonderful Christmas. Now, I’m fixing to go see if I can find a “fat” sized Thrashers jerssey for tomorrow night’s game. I’ll holla at y’all later. Be safe!


  173. 175 arkansashillbilly December 26, 2007 at 2:33 pm

    Ugh….I feel like I gained 30 pounds in 4 days. How ’bout a little baseball: Gil, can Blanco bunt? Can anybody in the Braves organization bunt? I’d love to see a little bit of small ball every now and then, but it will never happen in Georgia.

    The Padres signed Mark Prior today, it seems.

    Peavy, Young, Maddux, Prior…..Could be a pretty nasty rotation with a healthy Prior. Seems like everybody in the west is improving except the Giants.


  174. 176 mcfann December 26, 2007 at 4:27 pm

    Cool blog!!!


  175. 177 arkansashillbilly December 26, 2007 at 4:28 pm

    Stinky, Thanks for the info on the Giants future arms. What I was referring to is the offseason moves rather than the farm system. The Dodgers, Padres, and D-Backs have all made acquisitions to (potentially) improve themselves. The Rockies improved themselves last fall by finally learning how to win. I guess addition by subtraction could be a positive thing regarding Bonds. I still think they need to can some of the other Senior citizens they were fielding last season, and get some younger talent in there. But it’s still a long time until April. Plenty of time for significant moves to be made.


  176. 178 mrgil December 26, 2007 at 4:37 pm


    Yes, they do teach small ball in the minors, it is forgotten somehow when they reach Atlanta however.


    You have a point in that about August, many pitchers hit the wall so to speak. We all saw the results of “tired arm syndrome” and Chuck. 162 games are a lot to endure for a position player just as 200 innings for a pitcher.

    I’ve noticed that in the minors, it is seldom they let a pitcher throw beyond the 5th inning. I am not sure if it is to keep them ready for the bigs or to prevent them from hurting themselves.

    Perhaps it is why the idea of a 6 man rotation is not so far fetched. Pitching staffs seem to get bigger each year and I don’t mean in pounds.

    Grinch…. Glad to hear your Mom is no worse for wear from her ordeal.


  177. 179 CL December 26, 2007 at 5:59 pm

    Received this today from a cousin out in Colorado. Felt it was worth the read:

    A Different Christmas Poem

    The embers glowed softly, and in their dim light,

    I gazed round the room and I cherished the sight.

    My wife was asleep, her head on my chest,

    My baby daughter beside us, angelic in rest.

    Outside the snow fell, a blanket of white,

    Transforming the yard to a winter delight.

    The sparkling lights in the tree I believe,

    Completed the magic that was Christmas Eve.

    My eyelids were heavy, my breathing was deep,

    Secure and surrounded by love I would sleep.

    In perfect contentment, or so it would seem,

    So I slumbered, perhaps I started to dream.

    The sound wasn’t loud, and it wasn’t too near,

    But I opened my eyes when it tickled my ear.

    Perhaps just a cough, I didn’t quite know, Then the

    sure sound of footsteps outside in the snow.

    My soul gave a tremble, I struggled to hear,

    And I crept to the door just to see who was near.

    Standing out in the cold and the dark of the night,

    A lone figure stood, his face weary and tight.

    A soldier, I puzzled, some twenty years old,

    Perhaps a Marine, huddled here in the cold.

    Alone in the dark, he looked up and smiled,

    Standing watch over me, and my wife and my child.

    “What are you doing?” I asked without fear,

    “Come in this moment, it’s freezing out here!

    Put down your pack, brush the snow from your sleeve,

    You should be at home on a cold Christmas Eve!”

    For barely a moment I saw his eyes shift,

    Away from the cold and the snow blown in drifts..

    To the window that danced with a warm fire’s light

    Then he sighed and he said “Its really all right,

    I’m out here by choice. I’m here every night.”

    “It’s my duty to stand at the front of the line,

    That separates you from the darkest of times.

    No one had to ask or beg or implore me,

    I’m proud to stand here like my fathers before me.

    My Gramps died at ‘ Pearl on a day in December,”

    Then he sighed, “That’s a Christmas ‘Gram always remembers.

    My dad stood his watch in the jungles of ‘ Nam ‘,

    And now it is my turn and so, here I am.

    I’ve not seen my own son in more than a while,

    But my wife sends me pictures, he’s sure got her smile.”

    Then he bent and he carefully pulled from his bag,

    The red, white, and blue… an American flag.

    “I can live through the cold and the being alone,

    Away from my family, my house and my home.

    I can stand at my post through the rain and the sleet,

    I can sleep in a foxhole with little to eat.

    I can carry the weight of killing another,

    Or lay down my life with my sister and brother..

    Who stand at the front against any and all,

    To ensure for all time that this flag will not fall.”

    So go back inside,” he said, “harbor no fright,

    Your family is waiting and I’ll be all right.”

    “But isn’t there something I can do, at the least,

    “Give you money,” I asked, “or prepare you a feast?

    It seems all too little for all that you’ve done,

    For being away from your wife and your son.”

    Then his eye welled a tear that held no regret,

    “Just tell us you love us, and never forget

    To fight for our rights back at home while we’re gone,

    To stand your own watch, no matter how long.

    For when we come home, either standing or dead,

    To know you remember we fought and we bled.

    Is payment enough, and with that we will trust,

    That we mattered to you as you mattered to us.”


  178. 180 lew614 December 26, 2007 at 7:08 pm

    Stinky is correct. However, it might interest everypne to know that the Braves pitchers at Danville, just half a step below the low A clubs. led the Appalachain League in ERA last season. We have good arms coming up, too.


  179. 181 chrisklob December 26, 2007 at 11:15 pm

    Greetings denizens! I hope that everyone had a wonderful, joyous holiday!

    Living in a South Atlantic League city (Charleston, SC) I had the opportunity to see the Augusta team several times and certainly heard plenty about them all year long. They ran away with the first half of the season and were pretty much invincible. One caveat regarding that team: their starting pitchers were relatively old for this level of play. I didn’t look it up but if memory serves me right, their best pitchers were 23-25, which is much too old for Low A baseball. A quick perusal of Baseball America’s top 10 prospects list for the Giants reveals that none of those guys made the list. That’s not to say that some of those guys won’t be useful players in the majors but their age is really a detriment to their prospect status.


  180. 182 mrgil December 26, 2007 at 11:30 pm

    This is going to be my Bird Dog year for the blog, The Potomac Nationals are about an hour and one half from my home and they are in the same league as Myrtle Beach. It is going to be my goal to catch some of the guys in every league possible this year.

    Is it me or does it seem that players are making it to the majors at an earlier age? I can remember when a player would be 26 or 27 before he ever made it to the majors. Now it is like they have no chance if they don’t get on the big league club by age 22….


  181. 184 berigan2electricboogaloo December 27, 2007 at 6:21 am

    Hope everyone had a very merry Christmas! 😛
    Glad to see my words are still at the top of the blog!!!! 🙂

    CL, I like that poem!!! I think someone has been working on the basic idea, and improving it over the months. Before, the emails I saw were just a man seeing a soldier outside his house in the cold, but that he was fine…..


  182. 185 berigan2electricboogaloo December 27, 2007 at 6:34 am

    Perhaps when the minor league season starts, you might want to write a paragraph or two here about the games you saw, and the top players there from both teams! Man, I feel like I am “suggesting” things the way the kind lady does! 😉 Anyway, a thought…..
    Hope the braves will at least give old Blanco a chance in spring training. Thats all some players need, a chance , but some never get it. Tony Pena Jr. got 44 AB’s in a braves uniform, and the team thought so little of him, they traded him for Erik Cordier(Who?) But, to be fair, with studs like Pete Orr and Chris Woodward…there was no room for a young guy like him on the team…..


  183. 186 berigan2electricboogaloo December 27, 2007 at 6:37 am

    you know….those smilies are kinda evil lookin!
    Guess I should have said, hope everyone had a Merry Christmas, 😀
    There, not so evil looking!:LOL:


  184. 187 berigan2electricboogaloo December 27, 2007 at 6:37 am

    I mean….

    you know….those smilies are kinda evil lookin!
    Guess I should have said, hope everyone had a Merry Christmas, 😀
    There, not so evil looking! :LOL:


  185. 188 berigan2electricboogaloo December 27, 2007 at 6:38 am

    constarnit! Lowercase is the way to go…


  186. 189 ssiscribe December 27, 2007 at 8:38 am

    Top of the morning, denizens, from the drizzly, chilly southern rim of the capital city. It sounds like the crew enjoyed Christmas; know I did … still trying to figure out where I’m going to put these toys now populating the living room :-).

    Savannah: Nope, no Vegas here. Just been away getting Christmas duties finished so two little knuckleheads could have themselves a big time. And boy, did they ever. They’re home with me now (wife went back to work today). Meeting the Esteemed Grinch tonight to go to the Thrashers game, then out of town tomorrow sometime for a weekend out of state with relatives.

    Been nice to shut things down. I don’t think I even turned this thing on for two days, which is rare indeed (do the Falcons have a coach yet? And where is Baby Seal? Baby Seal coaching the Birds … oh, the humanity!).

    I’m being paged, so off I go. Hope Santa is abiding in a great vacation spot after all his hard work the other night.

    The Scribe abides.



  187. 190 journalist jimmy smith December 27, 2007 at 9:26 am

    this journalist is here to do some journalism. many topics will be covered and no paragraphs to separate thoughts. stay with jimmy smith. now, thrashers and scribe and grinch: baby seal, now chop seal, is interested in attending tonight’s game. on ice, right? can go with grinch and scribe? designated seal. babe magnet. and warrick dunn has not had enough! that’s right, warrick dunn is not done, wants more. more running up the tackle’s bottom? why? please all falcons, go away, even warrick dunn. when arthur blank hires a coach (maybe strap on the leotard) that coach should start over again (how many times now, falcons?). and will june jones be approached by arthur blank? boy named june? and now, guest appearances on this blog are quite entertaining. soon, the vermonteer will appear. vermonteer a word? cannot do this on that other blog would be called a looser for bad spelling. and now, banana pudding report – the pudding was tasty and filling but not of the right consistency. still, enough improvement was noted to keep diane lane around for awhile longer. and now, baseball . . . the blogger is right about tony pena, jr. starting shortstop for the kc royals . . . no room for such a player here when woodward and orr were available. also got nothing for tony pena, jr. really. dayton moore – remember the name. and now, bible verse for christmas and patriotic poetry, can do that on a blog? yep. can here. no political repercussions either. and chop chick’s blog has gone dormant. bear’s in the cave. molting. and who is the blogger that has made 40% of the posts there? in the running for new chop chick? chop liver. new blogging sensation chop seal will now rule the baseball blogs of this city. chop seal can blog from the left or right and is know to advance the runner. down the line with considerable speed but creates lots of dust. now, one little smiling green man and this post is complete. :mrgreen:


  188. 191 lew614 December 27, 2007 at 10:21 am

    Yes, Esteemed Journalist-The Vermonteer submitted his Blog Intro for the New Year last night to the Esteemed Lady from North of Georgia. Somewhat fanciful, as befits the Bionic Artist, but Journalistic, nonetheless. Wurlitzers are mentioned, as is water.


  189. 192 arkansashillbilly December 27, 2007 at 12:11 pm

    And now, a humorous story from my little league days in South Arkansas:

    My dad was my coach from tee-ball until Babe Ruth league, so I’ve always heard the funny stories told from a coaches perspective. My last year of little league was as fun as any summer of baseball I’ve ever known. Our team went 0-14, but nobody enjoyed playing as much as we did. We were essentially a real-life version of the Bad News Bears.

    The first day of practice that year, we lined up to take infield practice. After noticing in warm-ups that one kid, Stephen (first time he ever played organized ball), was lacking in the arm department, Coach Hillbilly put him at second base to take ground balls. Even then, Stephen couldn’t make the throws even halfway to the first baseman. Throw after throw went down into the ground and trickled toward first base. It was terrible. Stephen didn’t even appear to be trying, and this peeved my dad. After several lifeless attempts, my dad had weathered more than he could stand.

    “Stephen!!!! If you don’t make this throw to first base, I’m gonna make you run laps for the rest of practice. LET’S GO!!! SHOW SOME FIRE OUT THERE!!!!”

    PING…..the ball skipped toward Stephen at second base. He fielded it cleanly, slung his glove off, transferred the ball to his left hand and fired a rocket that seemed to leave a vapor trail all the way to the first baseman’s glove. My dad just shook his head trying not to laugh. Needless to say the next day at practice, Stephen had a left-hander’s glove instead of a right-hander’s….More stories to come from the Hillbilly’s Smackover, Arkansas Little League experiences.


  190. 193 mrgil December 27, 2007 at 1:04 pm

    Greetings and salutations denizens, Great story Hillbilly…. Scribe, so good to know Santa did not scratch south Georgia off his delivery route this year. Jimmysmith is being worn down by Diane Lane’s repeated attempts at the perfect pudding…. He should just send her along to me, I am not as particular about pudding. 🙂
    I can do send out……

    I fear by the time spring training arrives, we will easily be able to spot Lew in the crowd as the fellow who looks as if he belongs in the “Blue Man Group”. All that snow has the ski resorts booming. My kids ski but I never attempted the sport as the trees looked far to menacing to me. Fat guys should never attempt any activity in which gravity plays such an important part. I do however enjoy the company of the snowbunnies. Ah, another cruel twist of fate.

    Berigan, I have every intention in sharing my observations on the prospects with the other participants of the blog. For better or for worse. However, I am no high priced scout, just an interested observer. Hummmm…. Do you have to be an artist to appreciate art? Maybe it is easier for me as I have no hidden agendas. I may not know art but I like what I like…… Same with baseball players?

    I was reading about some of the Braves’ prospects and Zachery Schreiber’s name popped up. Folk’s I really like this kid. He reminds me so much of Mike Stanton except he is a mirror image as he is a righty. Look for him to mentioned by someone in a possible trade because I don’t think there is room for him in Atlanta but he has major league stuff. He has great mechanics too. Compact and quick delivery to the plate.


  191. 194 journalist jimmy smith December 27, 2007 at 1:11 pm

    ping? the bat went ping? c’mon hillbilly, maybe a crack of the bat, but ping? this reminds jimmy smith of the pinging sound as diane lane’s banana pudding emerged from the oven on Christmas day. and stinky is blogging here. a new, more refined stinky, no doubt. refined by carolina lady. and speaking of carolina lady, no insults from carolina lady for others’ baseball opinions. nice touch, that. and to the blogger that would like to see these braves run the bases and play small ball, alas, not to be. these braves play bobby ball. three run homer ball. get on base and wait for the homerun. and that is not so bad if there are runners on base and the hitters can make contact and hit the ball somewhere. unfortunately, many of the hitters are undisciplined and unable to give themselves up for a mere run. and isn’t frenchy becoming a much better player and one desired to see at the plate with runners on base? and who will bat after frenchy? if anyone can, mccann, can. and is there a place for corky miller on this team? jo jo and corky – a battery for the big top.


  192. 195 journalist jimmy smith December 27, 2007 at 1:15 pm

    veracity. important in a blog. and now, a story.

    A guy is driving around the back woods of Tennessee and he
    sees a sign in front of a broken down shanty-style house:
    “Talking Dog For Sale.”

    He rings the bell and the owner appears and tells him the dog
    is in the backyard. The guy goes into the backyard and sees a
    nice looking Labrador Retriever sitting there.

    “You talk?” he asks.

    “Yep,” the Lab replies.

    After the guy recovers from the shock of hearing a dog speak,
    he says, “So, what’s your story?”

    The Lab looks up and says, “Well, I discovered that I could
    talk when I was pretty young. I wanted to help the government,
    so I told them. In no time at all they had me jetting from
    country to country, sitting in rooms with spies and world
    leaders, because no one figured a dog would be eavesdropping.
    I was one of their most valuable spies for eight years

    “But the jetting around really tired me out, and I knew I
    wasn’t getting any younger so I decided to settle down. I
    signed up for a job at the airport to do some undercover
    security, wandering near suspicious characters and listening

    “I uncovered some incredible stuff and was awarded a bunch of
    medals. I got married, had a mess of puppies, and now I’m just

    The guy is amazed. He goes back in and asks the owner what he
    wants for the dog.

    “Ten dollars,” the guy says.

    “Ten dollars?! This dog is amazing! Why on earth are you
    selling him so cheap?”

    “Because he’s a liar. He never did any of that stuff.”

    veracity. very important both in a blog and with a talking dog.


  193. 196 mrgil December 27, 2007 at 1:31 pm

    Have a good afternoon ya’ll…. Time to do a few chores while the sun is shining.


  194. 197 arkansashillbilly December 27, 2007 at 2:18 pm

    Sorry, Journalist, but Ping it is. Aluminum bats in little league. No wooden bats to crack. If I posted “CRACK of the bat,” the story wouldn’t have been truthful. Veracity is very important in a blog.


  195. 198 journalist jimmy smith December 27, 2007 at 3:13 pm

    jimmy smith did not know tom glavine was such a devoted family man. forget all that tom glavine has did and remember what tom glavine says tom glavine has did. sounding like another blog, right? and the ajc will play the game. soon, it will be tom glavine family night at the ted. and culture, wasn’t culture important for this young family? and where will they find culture now that aaron giraffe and ralph and norton whale sharks have expired? not at the zoo. not at the aquarium. wren’s nest? say it ain’t so. tom glavine must turn to the world of coca-cola for cultural stimulation. that, or the cyclorama. and the cyclorama is in disrepair. perhaps a tour of the carnegie library would do the glavine family some good. or, maybe genuine parts headquarters. the old colonial bread bakery? where can tom glavine receive cultural benefit here? lakewood ampitheater? mableton cultural center? oh, the humanity! tom glavine is a fish out of water. need some real culture here, quickly! and apparently the fans in new york were anxious for tom glavine to seek culture elsewhere – judging from the boos at season’s end. and tom glavine cannot get culture watching the falcons on t.v. – the falcons are blacked out! that’s right – cultural deprivement right here at home. and tom says it best, “two hands on your stick, mason.” never can tell when a ringfinger might go cold. journalist is not a big fan of tom glavine. innings eater.


  196. 199 savannahguy December 27, 2007 at 3:52 pm

    Cheers and hope all had a Merry Christmas and now it’s off to New Years celebrations and bonfires and firecrackers and libations and marshmellos and maybe hot dogs and all such manner of joyous stuff.

    Journalist Jimmy, that was a nice story about the talking dog. I too have a talking dog but does not lie. Well, maybe when sleeping. Anyway just the other day a fella came over and wanted to see if my dog could really talk. So I called old Blue outside for a demonstration.

    I started with, “alright Blue, answer some questions for me”. First question: “What do you call the top of the house?” Blue said, “roof”. Next I asked, “what does sandpaper feel like if you sit on it”? Blue said, “ruff”. Alrighty then, here’s another. “Blue, what’s on that tree?” Blue said, “bark”.

    After all this I could tell, for some reason the man wasn’t yet impressed. So I told him that blue could also do math computations. The fella didn’t seem to believe me so I gave old Blue a math question:

    Blue, “what is 10 x 10 plus 3 minus 103”. Old Blue thought for a second and said nothing.

    That dog of mine is one smart puppy.


  197. 200 journalist jimmy smith December 27, 2007 at 7:04 pm

    journalist was afraid savannah was going to tell us about savannah’s spelling bee. now, the thrashers game is starting and grinch and scribe should be in attendance. with this blog fully operational, carolina lady and jimmy smith have press passes to all sporting events and there should be some good games ahead. wonder if grinch and scribe had to pay to get in tonight? and chop seal waited patiently by the curb to be picked up and taken to the game but no grinch and no scribe. chop seal is none too happy right now. of course, all the girls came out to talk with chop seal while waiting and when last seen chop seal was in a lounge chair and the girls were feeding chop seal grapes and rubbing chop seal’s seal shoulders. look it up. seal shoulders will be the next injury that will disable chipper jones. uh, my seal shoulders are a hurtin’. and tom glavine does not get a pass in this post. tom glavine wouldn’t know culture if it was on a petri dish in the bullpen. and whither jounalist bob? fried computer? and sja has not yet replaced the sja computer? something fishy here. next post will be from chop seal. jimmy smith out.


  198. 201 mrgil December 27, 2007 at 7:10 pm

    To fellows who had purchased retrievers out of the same litter where talking one day about their respective dogs. The first fellow said his was a fine dog, love the water and could retrieve anything he shot. Said the only problem he had with the dog was he was such a picky eater. He went on to explain it took him quite a while before he found just the right combination of very expensive dog foods before his dog stopped turning his nose up at his meal.

    The second fellow agreed that his was a fine retriever too, was an excellent swimmer and very hardy, no matter how cold the water, his dog would bring back every duck that had been shot.

    The first fellow asked if the latter’s dog was also a picky eater. the second fellow said nope. The first gentleman was curious so he ask what did the other man’s dog eat?

    The second man replied, “I feed him turnip greens” .

    “Turnip greens !!” the first fellow exclaimed, “there is no way my dog would eat turnip greens”!

    The second fellow replied, “neither would mine for the first month and a half”. 🙂


  199. 202 mrgil December 27, 2007 at 7:23 pm

    Tis a sad day to learn of the passing of Jim Beauchamp. I will always remember him playing in Richmond in ’67 on the same team as Bobby Cox and Tommie Arron. He was a great minor league player. Always was known for line drive homers he hit over the left field wall at old Parker Field.



  200. 203 berigan2electricboogaloo December 27, 2007 at 7:39 pm

    Saw this on mlbtraderumors.com, thought it was interesting….what does everyone else think??

    Let’s open up the MLBTR mailbag until some new rumors come along.

    I won’t necessarily agree with you when you say that Tom Glavine was a bad signing. By adding Glavine, it gives the Braves three solid options at the top of their rotation. – David

    I don’t disagree that Glavine adds depth on a reasonably priced one-year deal. What changed my opinion of this signing was the loss of the Braves’ 18th overall draft pick in 2008 – to the Mets.


  201. 204 CL December 27, 2007 at 7:39 pm

    ‘Evenin’, friends!

    Gil, that is sad news indeed! I heard Skip tell many good things about him through the years. Must have been a really terrific person. God bless him.

    Blog lead – we’re covered through about Jan 3 or so. Need somebody to step up and take the next open slot after Lew. Hillbilly? ChrisK? Grinch? Need a volunteer! 😆

    Will post Gil’s lead tomorrow!

    BTW, I understand that ajc is considering our setup of having various bloggers write Chop Chick’s blog. They recognize a good idea when they see it, huh? 🙂


  202. 205 mrgil December 27, 2007 at 8:08 pm

    A draft pick in baseball has a lot less impact than it does in football or basketball, after all, Scott Thorman was a former number one pick. I am just not too worried about it. If Glavin pitches reasonably well then it will be a good signing. He does not have to be a Santana or even a Tim Hudson, just not a Mark Redman. Some games the offense has to win for you.

    Some of the money not spent to sign a number one pick next year can be spent to secure Tex or someone like him.


  203. 206 savannahguy December 27, 2007 at 8:48 pm

    ‘evenin folks.

    Have I been banned for bringing corndogs in the stadium? Spelling bee? That’s over my head. The esteemed Lady from Carolina is running this place like a well-oiled machine. Stacking up those posts and such…

    Gil Seems this old blog has gone to the dogs. Lying spy dogs, corn dogs and turnip green eaters. What next? Bulldogs?

    <Berigan I also think Glavine was a good move. Unlike some, I’m also glad to see him back in a Braves uniform. I’ll let you know if I still feel that way in July. Don’t worry about Journalist Jimmy knocking on Glavine. He’s not really. Just concerned that Tommy may not have the cultural stimulation and comfortable accommodations in Atlanta that he may require after being in New York so long. You have to admit, there are so many things in New York to do and see. No, JJS is not holding any sort of a grudge or anything. Just that Tommy left because negotiations fell through with Shuerholz. That, the union label, his age and condition and, uh…that cold ring finger. Other than that I think he’s a real fan of Tommy’s.


  204. 207 savannahguy December 27, 2007 at 9:03 pm

    Was a good little story on Beauchamp. God bless him and his family.

    50 years between Ponce, Fulton, Turner and Richmond. Quite a feat.


  205. 208 Chop Seal December 27, 2007 at 9:50 pm

    Carulina Laday will soon be bigger than all the ajc blogs. She has avatars and smileys and is nice! And she blogs evreyday even in the off season. And she even gets along with Stinkee. Yes, Carulina Laday is building a powerful blogg. 😆


  206. 209 flbravesgirl December 27, 2007 at 10:41 pm

    Now, jimmy, you can’t expect Scribe to chaperone Grinch & Chop Seal too.


  207. 210 mrgil December 27, 2007 at 10:43 pm

    Still hard to to drum up business for the blog but then again, some folks you would just as soon pass on by. Looking for stimulating baseball talk is tough when everyone has football on their mind. I was reading about Don Mattingly being a legitimate candidate for the Hall of Fame. Not to take anything away from him as a player but Dale Murphy had much better numbers. We will see if playing in the Big Apple sways the voters.


  208. 211 mrgil December 27, 2007 at 10:59 pm

    Just curious….. would not it be hazardous for Chop Seal to attend a hockey game? I have seen games in different cities that have traditions of throwing items on the ice after a goal by the home team. Detroit fans throw octopus on the ice, another throws a big fish. Could it have been possible for scribe and grinch to become confused and excited if the Thrashers were to score and throw Chop Seal on the ice? It could be horrible to have this blog’s official beat writer mistaken for a walrus and trampled…. Good thing Chop Seal is home safe and secure with JJS and Diane Lane. 🙂


  209. 212 lew614 December 27, 2007 at 11:05 pm

    Seal Tossing? It could become the new rage-kind of like Dwarf tossing in the 80’s.


  210. 213 flbravesgirl December 27, 2007 at 11:08 pm

    Lew, that’s terrible. And I’m sure Grinch & Scribe would never do such a thing to our esteemed furry beat writer.


  211. 214 mrgil December 27, 2007 at 11:11 pm

    Could be a real “Chopped” Seal if trampled by skaters…. Not pretty….


  212. 215 mrgil December 27, 2007 at 11:15 pm

    Jimmysmith, Was Chop Seal’s dad in the Navy? I hear those Navy Seals are a rough bunch….


  213. 216 williamwallace December 27, 2007 at 11:41 pm

    Gil, unfortunately, I don’t think either Mattingly or Murphy have a shot. It’s a shame. At one time, they were each the best players/hitters in the game. Alot of Hall of Famers can’t claim that. With roids/HGH, Mattingly’s career would not have been derailed at 29 and Murphy’s would not have been derailed at 32.

    A big problem for me in neither being in is that Kirby Puckett is in. Puckett could never claim to be the best hitter/player in the game for 2 or 3 years like both Murphy and Mattingly can claim. Heck, Puckett can’t even claim being the best hitter/ player for one season. But Puckett has two rings and was the cuddly chubby centerfielder who everyone thought was a great guy when his eye woes cut short his career. I wonder if he would have been put in the Hall if the voters had known what an abusive jerk he was to women before they voted. Never understood either why his eye woes were any less tragic than Mattingly having his back go out on him or Murphy just suddenly losing it in 1988.

    Here’s a comparison:

    Mattingly, 1785 games; Puckett, 1783 games

    Mattingly, 7003 at bats; Puckett, 7244 at bats

    Mattingly, 1003 runs; Puckett, 1071 runs

    Mattingly, 1099 RBIs; Puckett, 1085 RBIs

    Mattingly, 442 doubles; Puckett, 414 doubles

    Mattingly, 222 homers, Puckett, 207 homers

    Mattingly, .307 AVG; Puckett, .318 AVG

    Mattingly, .358 OBP; Puckett, .360 OBP

    Mattingly, .471 SLG, Puckett, .477 SLG

    How is one in the Hall of Fame but the other is not? And if Mattingly should be in because Puckett is in, then Dale Murphy should definitely be in the Hall of Fame. He does have about twice as many homers as Mattingly and Puckett. And Murphy’s OBP, SLG, OPS, OPS+, and Runs Created Per Game is about equal with Mattingly and Puckett.

    When you really think about it, both Mattingly and Murphy were shells of their former selves for the last 5 or so years of their careers. Puckett however was healthy for his entire career. Mattingly’s raw stats are equal to Puckett’s raw stats and Murphy’s raw stats are superior. And Mattingly’s and Murphy’s rate stats are equal to Puckett’s. That tells you that when in their primes Mattingly and Murphy were so much better than Puckett that even with their stats suffering during the end of their careers, Puckett could only match them despite being at full strength throughout his career.

    But, truth be told, I’m not too sure Puckett, Mattingly, or Murphy deserve to be in the Hall. But my heart is with Mattingly and Murphy. At least the two of them have always been model citizens you would want your children to idolize. Everyone thought Puckett was as well. Turned out otherwise by the end of his life however.


  214. 217 flbravesgirl December 27, 2007 at 11:50 pm

    WW, isn’t it disheartening to find out that some people are not at all who you perceived them to be? Very disappointing to find out Puckett’s true colors.

    Now, a quick note to those who actually read my mostly irrelevant posts: I’m heading up to Georgia for the next week. I will attempt to check in on Mom’s laptop but if you don’t hear from me rest assured that I didn’t run away, my oven didn’t short out & blow up the computer or any other catastrophe.


  215. 218 mrgil December 28, 2007 at 12:02 am

    FBG…. Just put a GPS tracking device in one of your Red Velvet Cakes and JJS will have that seal of his find you no matter where you are. You will never truly be lost. The rest of us however, will miss your banter next week. Have a safe trip.


  216. 219 mrgil December 28, 2007 at 12:18 am

    Yes William, The baseball writers will be doing a lot of ignoring of the facts trying to justify their past decisions. Already they are crying foul because one of their favorites has been fingered as one of the worse abusers in the game. I must say that the evidence may not be enough to convict in a court of law but certainly enough to say if you let Clemens in, then you better go back and induct Shoeless Joe and Pete Rose.

    Yes, Murph deserves a spot in Cooperstown, hopefully it won’t be one of those oops, sorry your dead now but we will try to make it up to you now inductions like Buck O’Neil.


  217. 220 mrgil December 28, 2007 at 12:37 am

    The really sad thing is the “well, if one cheated, they all must have cheated” defense. All are painted with the same wide brush. Are their players who have cheated but have not yet been named, of course. Are there players who have been names that may be innocent? Possibly, but unlikely. Will MLB be able to discipline players for past infractions? Doubtful, but the BBWOA has an opportunity to protect the integrity of the game. Keep the cheaters out……


  218. 221 mrgil December 28, 2007 at 6:43 am

    A nice little article on Jim Beauchamp in this morning’s Times Dispatch. I remember listening to a game in late 1967 when Jim fell down the dugout steps while trying to catch a foul ball and was never really the same afterwards. Loved to hear those old “Bye, Bye Baby” by Frank Soden when Beach would hit one out of the park.



  219. 222 berigan2electricboogaloo December 28, 2007 at 7:49 am

    Mattingly, 1003 runs; Puckett, 1071 runs, Ted Simmons 1074 runs
    Mattingly, 1099 RBIs; Puckett, 1085 RBIs , Ted Simmons 1389 RBI’s
    Mattingly, 442 doubles; Puckett, 414 doubles Ted Simmons, 483 doubles
    Mattingly, 222 homers, Puckett, 207 homers,
    Ted Simmons, 248 Homers
    Mattingly, 2153 hits, 2304 Hits, Ted Simmons 2472 hits

    😛 Please don’t ban me CL!!!!
    Seriously, Simmons had more Ab’s over his career as well, but…he was a catcher(Who played in 150 or more games for 7 straight years!!!!) who also managed to hit .300 or better for 7 seasons as well. 8 seasons of 90 or more RBI’s as well. And he hit at a terrible stadium for power hitters, the old Busch, long before the fences were brought in….And he was my favorite player cuz he was totally cool! So….why is he not in the HOF???? Being 2nd best to Johnny Bench is no great shame….and he was a better pure hitter.


  220. 223 ssiscribe December 28, 2007 at 7:50 am

    Top of the morning, denizens, on this stormy morning along the southern rim of the capital city.

    I can’t help but feel bad for being ill about the pouring rain falling this morning. I’m getting ready to head north for a four-hour trip (better than a three-hour tour, I guess), and I have a blue-ton of stuff to do this morning and two little guys with me.

    But we so badly need the rain, I don’t feel right complaining about the rain. So, I’ll grab my umbrella and throw the rain slickers on the kiddies and we’ll get to it.

    Now, hockey (noted transition by the Scribe): Game was fun last night. Yes, denizens, I behaved (fruit punch and water) and actually went home after the game. Great catching up with Grinch. Had a really good time and plan on seeing the high-flyin’ Hawks soon.

    Ended up with passes into the First Horizon Club for the third period, so I got a great look at the Thrashers’ rally. Still, I like sitting high for hockey. It’s best to watch the game develop from the upper deck, the line changes and the defensive spacing and so forth.

    The Thrashers were flat as pancakes for two periods. They are driving me crazy this season: Three games up, four games down, up, down, up, down. Sigh. Like watching a roller coaster. I’d rather be riding one.

    I think I’ve figured out why all the good-lookin girls didn’t want to talk to Grinch. They were looking for Chop Seal. And y’all ask Grinch about my cool-looking Braves lid in the shape of the famed Las Vegas sign 🙂

    It was a fun night last night.

    Now, spring training (noted transition): It is this Scribe’s hope to get to Lake Buena Vista for a couple of days in February. Don’t know if I can make it happen with work and all that, but I told Grinch last night I’m going to try.

    Well, gotta get the rest of these things done around here. We have a dry window coming in here in about a half-hour; guess I should get my double-play combination ready to dash out the door while it’s not pouring.

    Enjoy your weekend. Talk to you either Monday, or next year.

    Selah, good denizens.

    The Scribe abides.



  221. 224 berigan2electricboogaloo December 28, 2007 at 8:32 am

    Stinky, will the Giants trade Tim Lincecum, Sor Cain to get some offense since they have more arms in the minors???


  222. 225 nacly December 28, 2007 at 9:28 am

    Have you changed the batting order? Isn’t Gil in the box, Lew’s on deck, and I’m in the hole? Remember, ‘Sugar on top’ and all that tripe?!? 🙂


  223. 226 journalist jimmy smith December 28, 2007 at 9:41 am

    well, chop seal and grinch competing for the same girls . . . grinch doesn’t want to go there. chop seal would be a natural on ice but not with the players on the ice with the clubs, er, sticks. bad history there. had grinch and scribe gone out with chop seal last night the group could have gone seal clubbing (not what you think) in buckhead. as it turned out, chop seal was invested in a number of girls here in the neighborhood.

    now, a beat writer with a chop seal would attract women, but a beat writer that is a chop seal would be in charge. powerful combination. very powerful.

    and jimmy smith remembers tom glavine . . . and the reception from the n.y. press where tom glavine was described as a refined and genteel person uncomfortable with the likes of the tomahawk chop, john rocker, gary sheffield and chipper jones – and better suited to the n.y. environs. that was back when chipper was not a roll model. now, take a pole, which player mentioned did not appear in the mitchell report? and which club had the most players mentioned? and does chipper worry about culture like tom glavine does? and is spitting seeds a cultural investment? and remember, they are all baseball players.


  224. 227 CL December 28, 2007 at 9:44 am

    Salty, no change, just a weak link in the brain cells! And this is me 😳 for the swinging strike out – a la AJ! Could be chalked up to many things – as many things are/have been going on, but I have no valid excuse! sigh I’m sorry, Salty. Forgive me?

    OK – Now that I’m holding the lineup card right-side up, Gil is at bat and his lead is posted! Lew is in the on-deck circle for around New Years and SALTY is on the top step of the dugout!

    Now, who follows Salty??



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