18: Yin, Yang, Jerry Falwell and The Spiders From Mars*

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by Lew

RANDOLPH, VT – *The title alludes to an album by David Bowie, entitled “The Rise and Fall of Ziggy Stardust and The Spiders From Mars.” It tells the story of a fictional guitarist named Ziggy Stardust and his band The Spiders From Mars and their rise to stardom. It is a story detailing the detrimental effects of fame and fortune and what happens when one thinks they are greater than their bretheran. I know Savannah Guy and a few others may have understood the reference, but doubted that CL and Bob were listening to Glam Rock in the 70’s.

My little story also speaks to the duality of the universe and it’s often opposing forces. We all encounter this duality daily-Day and Night, Hot and Cold, Sunny or Rainy. Pitch and Hit. Home and Away. DH or no DH. You get the idea. The Yin and Yang of life-wonderful concept, that. We’ve all seen the collision of these forces-A pitching duel between Gibby and Koufax. A slugfest at Wrigley or at the Green Monster. Strikes when greedy players argue with greedy owners. We also see what transpires when hot and cold air masses collide-Thunderstorms which make Bob quit blogging and his computer to self destruct. Yes, much can happen when forces collide, but more on that later.

Much has been discussed on this blog about Heroes, Legends, Icons and Roll Models (don’t blame me for the spelling, I hang out with Beet Writers). With the recent steroid scandals, much has been discussed about their feet of clay (had to get at least one podiatric reference in, right?). We’ve also spoken much about our enjoyment of everything from baseball, to family and friends, to sci fi movies. I even talked about some of my favorites in my last blog.

My interest in all forms of science fiction and fantasy has by necessity, led me to attend Sci Fi conventions (Cons, as they are known). I’ve gotten some of my best art jobs at these events and made some pretty decent money along the way. I’ve made many friends there. I’ve also gotten the opportunity to meet many authors, artists and actors associated with the genre (note the alliteration, Oh Scribe). I’ve met R2D2 (Kenny Baker and his wife are nice people). I’ve met actors from Horror Films, Star Wars, Battlestar Galactica, and Star Trek. I’ve seen numerous fans dressed as Fairies, Witches, Wizards, Barbarians, Hobbits and Elves. I’ve seen others dressed as Romulans, Cardassians, Vulcans, Borg and Klingons. Many Klingons. Multitudes of Klingons. Hordes of Klingons. They are actually a common sight at these cons. But not in Lynchburg, Va. in 1993, at Kaliedoscope, the area’s first sci fi convention.

This was a good event, as these things go. I made several life long friends at this one. It was also significant for me because it was the first time I had been invited as a Guest Artist-a pretty big deal all those years ago. I also got to meet with one of my own icons (some may only have cowboys as heroes, but I prefer authors and artists), the author Roger Zelazy, for the final time before he died.. It was also my first time in Lynchburg, an old southern town which is also the home of the Late Evangelist Jerry Falwell’s Liberty University.

Now as discussed earlier, forces collide. Air masses meet and thunderstorms send Bob scurrying on Pruny Toes back to his hot tub. It seems that this particular September Sunday every year, was the annual brunch for the Reverend Falwell’s congregation-here in the very hotel where all these denizens of sci fi fandom frivolously frolicked and otherwise reveled. In the lobby (If I was a Prophet, I would Not have stayed at a Holiday Inn Express, last night), a quartet of The Reverend’s choir gave a recital. The throng of Star Fleet Officers, Fairy Princesses, and Wizards listened intently. The singers were quite good and we are a cultured lot, after all, despite our various eccentricities. When they finished, we applauded heartily. The Reverend was not amused. Then the Klingons arrived.

Reverend Falwell stopped in mid sentence at the microphone. His eyes went wide and he turned ghostly white. He turned on heel and walked through the front door of the hotel, congregation trailing behind. They never returned, not even in subsequent years. Bob, though not even there, refused to leave his hot tub for a week. That is why Bob is wrinkled. He’s not really old, just Pruny.

Just a normal day in Dixie. Bob got old. Jerry met the Klingons. Cultures merged momentarily. I witnessed the Fall of Ziggy Stardust. Like I said, just an normal day.

531 Responses to “18: Yin, Yang, Jerry Falwell and The Spiders From Mars*”

  1. 1 Carolina Lady February 3, 2008 at 11:44 am

    Entertaining, Lew! Thank you!! 🙂
    And a special thanks for pinch-hitting for me!


  2. 2 savannahguy February 3, 2008 at 11:50 am

    This Day in (mostly) Baseball History

    1815 – The world’s first commercial cheese factory was established in Switzerland.

    1876 – Albert Spalding with $800 starts sporting goods co, manufacturing 1st official baseball, tennis ball, basketball, golf ball, & football.

    1894 – Norman Rockwell was born. Baseball, apple pie and Norman Rockwell just seem to go together.

    1942 – Baseball owners agree to permit each club up to 14 night games

    1965 – Braves offer Milwaukee $500,000 to terminate their lease a year earlier. The proposal is turned down.

    1979 – Minnesota Twins trade Rod Carew to California for 4 players.

    1990 – NY Met Darryl Strawberry voluntarily enters Alcohol rehab center.

    2008 – Braves and Stuff sets a new, all-time blog post record.


  3. 3 chrisklob February 3, 2008 at 11:54 am

    That’s a great story Lew!


  4. 4 nacly February 3, 2008 at 11:57 am

    Minaya deserves immense credit

    That’s politically correct for “don’t let obvious bite you in the…uh…seat”!


  5. 5 jerseygil February 3, 2008 at 12:00 pm

    Lew..like always..great…one of this day i will post my fiction life and my real life…


  6. 6 savannahguy February 3, 2008 at 12:06 pm

    Lew, excellent post. Yes, the Yin, the Yang is evident in everything. Sometimes more evident when the Klingons meet Jerry Falwell to be sure. Falwell must have thought he was being mocked. He should have stuck around, at least long enough to pass the plate. Do Klingons carry earth currency?

    Ziggy Stardust and The Spiders From Mars was one of the most underrated albums of the 70’s. Solid, scorching rock. Keith Richards would (probably did) love those nasty…Nasty riffs. The most underrated album of all-time may be Changes, a…THE Bowie masterpiece. Every track a classic.

    Mr. Fly, sleuth reporter had a run-in with Ziggy and his gang of spiders if you recall, during his Ken Burns interview session. He barely escaped.

    Now, the $50 question: Lew, were you are Klingon, Star Fleet Officer or wizard?


  7. 7 jerseygil February 3, 2008 at 12:07 pm

    well folks….i have to go….they need me at the kitchen…i’m cooking today to get eveything ready for today…i be back later tonight after the games.



  8. 8 williamwallace February 3, 2008 at 12:16 pm

    Great job, Lew. And thanks for finally getting my blog lead off. I was tired of looking at the thing. It’s funny that I like to write but I hate to read what I write. Oh, well.



    GO BIG BREW! (for Grinch and Klobber)

    GO BIG PEW! (for Bob)

    GO BIG SLEW! (for the number of posts)

    GO BIG SHOE! (for Chipper’s toes)

    GO BIG STEW! (for Super Bowl meal)

    GO BIG DEW! (for what Grinch hopes the effect of the big brew is on the ladies)

    Alright, off to go see Pops and watch our Giants hopefully not humiliate themselves.


  9. 9 lew614 February 3, 2008 at 12:23 pm

    Jersey Gil-Dude, that is a TRUE story. It really happened and that IS my real life.

    SG-I never dressed up in costume. I always figured me as me was more than bizarre enough. Not sure a costume would have made me more so or helped tone me down. I just observe, like The Journalist I am at heart.


  10. 10 lew614 February 3, 2008 at 12:26 pm

    SG-Actually, that reminds me. The world lost a great guitarist. Mick Ronson died of cancer several years ago. Never saw him with Bowie, but I did get to see him with Ian Hunter. Got to sing along on All The Young Dudes with the only 25 people left at the show that night. Great memory and the loss of a truly gifted guitarist. Damn those cellular mutations.


  11. 11 Chop Seal February 3, 2008 at 12:27 pm

    “I’ve seen numerous fans dressed as Fairies, Witches, Wizards, Barbarians, Hobbits and Elves.” I have seen some Beet writers dressed liKe that. HoBBits and ELVes that is.

    This is a gooD basebalL blogg with lots of gooD baSeball KnowLedge. Too bad Javy is a catcher where BOBby Cox will be afraid to use his bat. And Bobby Cox Will be afraid to use his bat because he won’t want to burn a catcher. Remember when WooDward used to pinch hit insteaD of Pena? What do I kNow I am just A Seal.

    Beet writIng has become Eazy for me. I reely like being a beet writeR on SupEr bowl day becauSe I can use my Press Pass to imprEss girls. I then introducE the girls to jimmy smith and he gives me fish and cheese. But i still want to be a collumist.

    FBG is right about the pitching . . . if Chucky’s arm is cheese then one piece of the puzzle will be Missing pretty soon. Back Later with braKing news.


  12. 12 journalist jimmy smith February 3, 2008 at 12:36 pm

    condolences to the jason in maine family. and prayers for carolina lady’s family. it is humbling to realize how fragile life (and good health) can be.

    journalist cannot tell if grinch received jimmy smith’s warning about the citropsis root used in grinch’s chili. forgot to tell grich about the side effects. oh, well . . . should make for interesting reading tomorrow.

    and staying in a hot tub for an entire super bowl would also result in pruniness, right? not the first use of pruny on this blog but still, not often used.

    go braves! go giants! go eli! draft a manning for the falcons. no more mannings? oh, the humanity!


  13. 13 lew614 February 3, 2008 at 12:37 pm

    ChopSeal-I didn’t even mention the women in chain mail bikinis-or the Scream Queens. OH! The Humanity!!!!


  14. 14 savannahguy February 3, 2008 at 12:39 pm

    I just observe, like The Journalist I am at heart.



  15. 15 chrisklob February 3, 2008 at 12:40 pm

    women in chain mail bikinis

    Pictures, or it didn’t happen!


  16. 16 savannahguy February 3, 2008 at 12:45 pm

    Now, why did journartist go italic? hmmm…

    Lew, Mick Ronson was a great guitarist. Man, could he rip. Sad loss of a great talent. Between Hunky Dory and the Spiders, his work was awesome. Could not have produced those works without him. By the way, I said “Changes” album and meant Hunky Dory. Changes was title song. Classic. Still good after all these years.


  17. 17 mrgil February 3, 2008 at 12:48 pm

    Great post Lew, when worlds collide, sparks can fly. And even pigs could fly if given sufficient spark…. So, rather than hog all the air in the room, I shall defer to more esteemed journalists and even beet writers as I must make the trip to mother’s today.

    Now there is a person whom can suck the life force out of someone…. I shall return beaten down and abused but who is to care, baseball will soon be returned.


  18. 18 Chop Seal February 3, 2008 at 12:53 pm

    I have a new Beet WRiter story to SHare.

    A very successful collumist sent his out-of-town Beet WRiter brother a beaUtiful talKing parrot for the beet writer’s birthday. This was a very special parrot that could speak 3 languages and perform circus feets. The collumist could not wait to heer back from his down-on-his-luck brother when he found what a Special parrot he had been given.

    The collumist called the beet writer a FEw days later and Asked. “How did you like YOur Parrot?”

    “It was delicious!”, replied the beet Writer.

    “Delicious?”, shrieked the collumist, “Don’t tell me you cooked and ate a $2,500 parrot that speaks 3 languages! What were you thinking? How could you do that to him?”

    “Well, said the beet writer, “He should have said something.”


  19. 19 savannahguy February 3, 2008 at 12:58 pm

    Gil, take a box of chocolates to your mom’s. Then you could do no wrong.

    How did you like War of the Worlds?


  20. 20 lew614 February 3, 2008 at 12:59 pm

    Don’t this beet all? Now Sen. Arlen Specter is calling for a Congressional investigation of the Patriots for stealing business secrets by taping practices. Isn’t it about time that these Senatorial Morons got back to the business of dealing with the problems of the American populace? We can’t pass a flipping Economic Stimulus bill while people in this country starve and freeze to death, can’t afford to run their cars, feed their families, or pay the outrageous interest on the credit cards they desperately need because of the Non Inflation the Government tells us we don’t have, yet they can investigate professional sports for social molehills. Whatever. I’ve about had it with the whole damn bunch of And Idiots.


  21. 21 Chop Seal February 3, 2008 at 1:00 pm

    Some beet writers are critical of local airlines. And they should be CaReful. Here is anotHer beet writer story.

    As a beet writer takes his seat on an airplane, he is surprised to find a parrot strapped in next to him. After taking off, the flight attendant comes around to serve the passengers on the plane. The beet writer asks the flight attendant for a coffee and the parrot squawks: “And get ME a coke… NOW!”

    The flight attendant, flustered by the parrot’s attitude, brings back a coke for the parrot. However, she forgets the coffee for the beet writer.

    As the beet writer points this out to the flight attendant, the parrot drains his glass and screams:

    “Get me another coke or I’ll really create a scene!”

    Quite upset, the attendant comes back shaking, with another coke, but still no coffee.

    Irritated at her forgetfulness, the beet writer decides to try the parrot’s approach. “I’ve asked you twice for a coffee, woman. Go and get it right now, or I’ll create a scene that will make HIS look like a Victorian tea party!”

    The next moment, both the beet writer and the parrot are grabbed and thrown out of the emergency exit by two burly, no-nonsense security guards.

    Hurtling towards earth, the parrot turns to him and says: “You’re pretty cheeky for a guy who can’t fly!”

    Super BowL day – more jokes coming.


  22. 22 lew614 February 3, 2008 at 1:04 pm

    CVhris-Go to DragonCon in Atlanta on Labor Day weekend. You will see much more than women in Chain Mail Bikinis. I could tell you a lot more, but better not do it here, because we do not need CL or Bob shrivelling up in horror. Better to let Bob shrivel in the hot tub. CL has enough problems without shrivelling. And to think DOB refers to DragonCon as Geekfest. He has no clue. I even got a $10,000 commission there.


  23. 23 Chop Seal February 3, 2008 at 1:11 pm

    An able-bodied seaman meets a pirate-turned-beet writer in a bar, and they take turns recounting their adventures. Noting the beet writer’s peg-leg, hook, and eye patch The seaman asks “So, how did you end up with the peg-leg?”

    The beet writer replies “We was caught in a monster storm off the cape and a giant wave swept me overboard. Just as they were pullin’ me out a school of sharks appeared and one of ’em bit me leg off”.

    “Blimey!” said the seaman. “What about the hook”?

    “Ahhhh…”, mused the beet writer, “We was boardin’ a trader ship, pistols blastin’ and swords swingin’ this way and that. In the fracas me hand got chopped off.”

    “Blimey!” remarked the seaman. “And how came ye by the eye patch?”

    “A seagull droppin’ fell into me eye”, answered the beet writer.

    “You lost your eye to a seagull dropping?” the sailor asked incredulously.

    “Well…” said the beet writer; ” it was me first day with the hook.”

    and one more. . . 😆

    A beet writer gets shipwrecked. When he wakes up, he’s on a beach. The sand is dark red. He can’t believe it. The sky is dark red. He walks around a bit and sees that there is dark red grass, dark red birds and dark red fruit on the dark red trees. He’s shocked when he finds that his skin is starting to turn dark red too.

    “Oh no!!” says the beet writer, “I think I’ve been marooned!!”

    Soon I hoPE to be a collumist.


  24. 24 lew614 February 3, 2008 at 1:16 pm

    Oh!!The Humanity. Marooned.


  25. 25 nacly February 3, 2008 at 1:42 pm

    Lew…Specter fired me up yesterday when I saw that story…next thing I knew, the blog was racing past 400 to well beyond 500. Not sure we’re ready for a repeat, but no doubt, there are passionate feelings over the productivity of our elected officials! 👿


  26. 26 Carolina Lady February 3, 2008 at 2:22 pm

    Lew has 2 new portraits on his baseball photo page. 🙂

    (If I’ve missed any that have been sent, PLEASE let me know. I get interrupted a LOT and sometimes lose track of where I was!)


  27. 27 Carolina Lady February 3, 2008 at 2:30 pm

    Salty, the only avatar I see is the one of the forks. Haven’t seen the other one in a long time. One thing you may want to try is to delete the image of the one you do not want showing from your uploads. Also, it’s possible that your brower’s cache may need clearing.


  28. 28 Carolina Lady February 3, 2008 at 2:42 pm

    Couple of new photos in my baseball photos page.


  29. 29 nacly February 3, 2008 at 3:18 pm

    Important televisions viewing on the History Channel…perfect! Beer brewing in America just finished…followed by the History on a Bun (Hot Dogs…Burgers?). Where would baseball gastronomy be without the two??? Coca Cola must be on deck…Chees in the hole? Pie (apple of course!)…Chevrolet (nah, not food, but takes you there!). Rest of the batting order…hmmm…compelling TV! Takes little to amuse me, obviously…alas, back to the kitchen and continued fun!

    jjs…about that citropsis root? Like mushrooms???


  30. 30 jerseygil February 3, 2008 at 3:20 pm

    Hey guys i back for a minute….a good recipe…
    In Puerto rico we call “Carne Mechada” or “Stuff Meat” take a few hours to cook.
    Is make first with a good Chunk round Prime meat:
    You marinere with a good white wine salt, pepper, garlic,oregano,
    then the stuff: Spanish chorizo, Jam, onion, green peppar.Make a hole in the center and stuff with this ggod stuf. then boiling in water for 31/2 hours, put some bay leave in the water….1/2 hour before done put some potatoes in…and some ragu sause….then when all done silices and enjoy…
    That is my Super Bowl receipe for today……

    Hey Caroline lady….How i post pic?..in this blog…i have some pic from the Allstar in Houston few year ago.


  31. 31 Carolina Lady February 3, 2008 at 3:27 pm

    Hi, JerseyGil! Send the photos to me and I’ll post them on your photos page. Just attach the photos to the email and send. That’s it! We’d love to see them!


  32. 32 jerseygil February 3, 2008 at 3:32 pm

    cool i do..thanks


  33. 33 jerseygil February 3, 2008 at 3:43 pm

    Well enjoy the Super Bowl folks……see ya later…


  34. 34 mrgil February 3, 2008 at 4:55 pm

    War of the Worlds was okay. Not on my top 10 list but a good escape for a few hours. Dakota Fanning really has talent.

    On Sen. Arlen Specter, politicians never like to pass up an opportunity for an easy headline. He know absolutely nothing will come of his musings but it will play well to the folks in Pennsylvania.


  35. 35 savannahguy February 3, 2008 at 5:35 pm

    The sun is shining, 70 degrees, the kids are coming over, wife’s in the kitchen stirrin’ the pots with my sister, cookin’ up some country ham and redeye gravy, stewed ‘maters, homemade biscuits and pinto beans. Strawberry shortcake dessert. Life is good.

    Jersey, that Carne Mechada sounds great. I’ll have to give it a try sometime. We’ve gotten pretty good at making Carne Asada. We love Latin American and Mexican food around our house. Sometimes we have Spanish chorizo, thinly sliced with cheese platter and call it dinner. I’ll have a good Spanish wine with it, like Treana or a hearty cab. Mmmm…We also do ceviche, fried plantains, jerk beef, chicken, seafood, conch chowder… all of it.

    Gil, I loved the new (and original) WOTW, but the new one wouldn’t be in my top ten either. That film is really best on the big screen or HD, with its fantastic effects. If you haven’t seen it, check out Blade Runner, a great Sci-Fi film noir. I’d hate to even try and determine my top ten. Dakota Fanning is an amazing little actress. Child prodigy. Good in “Signs” too. Oh, and Arlen Specter is and idiot. To throw a speculative grenade like that the day before the Super Bowl was, well, I won’t even get started on that.

    Glad the Super Bowl is kicking off at 6:30. Early time is so much better than later. So many sports playoff or championship games go past midnight. I really wish MLB would follow suit and start games earlier. Who knows, might even get the kids watching again.


  36. 36 savannahguy February 3, 2008 at 5:38 pm

    Have a good Super Bowl.

    The Pat’s make football history tonight.


  37. 37 Chop Seal February 3, 2008 at 5:38 pm

    BRaking NeWs: Oh boy this is emBarrassing. We were at the store buying Super Bowl SNacks and jimmy smith had just paid the cashier and that cashier handed the bag to jimmy smith and said, “Have a goot one.”

    jimmy smith flew into a rage! he jumped over the counter and grabbed that young man and demanded an apology for telling him to have a goot one.

    I could not understand what was wrong with jimmy smith. This was so unlike him. Well, it seems goot means something different in uganda. Not sure what it means – jimmy smith said that I am too young to know this. does someone here know about goot one? And we have been asked not to come back to the store again. Thank you, ChoP Seal


  38. 38 paladin24 February 3, 2008 at 5:50 pm

    Just rode in, so pardon the dust. I’m looking for the biggest, meanest mutha in here so I can punch out his lights and make a name for myself. Oh, it’s you, Ms CL. Well pardon me Ma’am, I’ll be leaving just as soon as I finish my sasparilla.

    Seriously, I am looking for the numerous types that “appropriated” my handle making me attach my age(:>) in order to log on.


  39. 39 Bob, journalist February 3, 2008 at 6:07 pm

    Some may remember Aunt Fanny’s Cabin … a few may even remember Aunt Fanny … if you ever ate there, at least back in the old days, you’ll remember the food as well as the atmosphere … it attracted folks from all over, from the rich and famous to beet righters … the food was good, especially the bread!

    We always enjoyed it but Daddy thought it was too expensive and I thought Mama’s cookin’ was better, especially her fried chicken. Daddy used to tell the story of one beet righter he knew who really loved the place … going every time he got paid … about every six months … big, showy spender … but, though he always got good service, he never left a tip. It got so that no one wanted to serve him … and they complained to Harvey … who in turn asked how he liked the food and service.

    “The food is fantastic, the service is the best … the only thing is the bread … I love but they skimp on the bread … only one piece!

    Harvey explained the problem to everyone and the next time he was in, the beet righter received a triple portion of bread, together with even better service … spent over $100 but still no tip.

    Again Harvey asked him about the food and service … and again “everything was great but they’re skimping on the bread … only three pieces … I love that bread!”

    Harvey called everyone together and explained … told the chef that the next time he came in, to bake an especially large loaf, just for him … which they did … but it didn’t have the intended effect … still no tip!

    In fact, Daddy said that was the last time the beet righter frequented Aunt Fanny’s … he was offended … he was a good customer and they knew how much he liked the bread … how dare they go back to giving him just one piece.

    Enjoy the supper bowl … and a tip … don’t lose too much bread … you may need it for when you eat out.


  40. 40 savannahguy February 3, 2008 at 6:31 pm

    Last minute check before kickoff and look what the cat drug in…a jet fightin’ sasparilla slurpin’ have gun will travel. Will this place let anybody in?

    Welcome aboard Paladin. Didn’t think we’d see ya until spring training or later. Missed your banter. But one thing…you’ve been handing around in the tropics sippin’ on little umbrella drinks and all you got to show for it is pearly white skin?

    You look just like Lew in that avatar. Could be twins. Maybe you get Carolina Lady to point you to a good tailor and makeup artist.



  41. 41 journalist jimmy smith February 3, 2008 at 6:31 pm

    oh, the humanity! jimmy smith understood that one. and paladin is here. welcome, paladin. pretty good baseball knowledge here and soon chop seal will have press credentials. that means more scoops. and there is plenty of baseball to talk about. jair jurjens for instance. jair jurjens and jo jo and chucky. journalist thinks it may be time to send jair out there.

    uh, oh . . . kickoff.


  42. 42 Carolina Lady February 3, 2008 at 7:38 pm

    Paladin, you’re welcome here! We’ve made a nice home for ourselves here and are glad you have joined us. Lots of pages, features, photos, superior blog leads written by the bloggers here. Hope you’ll enjoy it.


  43. 43 mrgil February 3, 2008 at 7:43 pm

    Welcome Paladin, always good to have knowledgeable folks frequent the joint… And the big fella you are looking for might be SJA but I would just tip my hat and say howdy if I was you, the sheriff doesn’t like too much of a ruckus around these parts. 🙂

    Good one Bob…. I will now steal that one too… 🙂


  44. 44 lew614 February 3, 2008 at 8:07 pm

    Oh Lord. Paladin is here. Yet another Old Fart, Sir. Well you’re here in good company. No doubt about that.


  45. 45 paladin24 February 3, 2008 at 8:21 pm

    It’s half-time and Tom Petty, who sings like Richard Petty, is “on” so I’ll take advantage of the time. thanks for the nice welcomes. I’ve missed my buddies. I’ve lurked on DOB’s blog a time or two, and it wasn’t the same. You guys made it. Anyway, I won’t be either place much. I’m working on another degree and it’s keeping me busy. And, it’s a 3 year program that I’m trying to finsih in 2 years. When you get to be my age you have to make every minute count. But, I’ll ride in from time to time. In the meantime, my best to you all and GO BRAVES!


  46. 46 williamwallace February 3, 2008 at 8:25 pm

    Uncle Paladin, how is my favorite wingman? Still know how to fly the ole cropduster?

    Great job by Tom Petty.

    Steve Smith sucks.

    Back to the game.


  47. 47 Carolina Lady February 3, 2008 at 8:27 pm

    What game? The season doesn’t start for another couple of months! 😯


  48. 48 williamwallace February 3, 2008 at 8:29 pm

    How many freaking degrees do you need, Paladin? You know you can’t take all those degrees to heaven with you, right?


  49. 49 nacly February 3, 2008 at 8:41 pm

    Paladin…24? Age…yeah, right! OK, old young ‘un…or is that young old ‘un? Regardless…welcome…only one half of football and its officially baseball season! The roster at Bravesandstuff grows!

    Better stop…typing without glasses is hazardous…as my earlier (very flawed) post attests! My fingers barely reach the keybaord from this distance! 🙂

    Go New Yorkland Patriants…you can win this game!!!


  50. 50 paladin24 February 3, 2008 at 8:41 pm

    I’m getting(I hope)nephew, a JD. It is something I have wanted to do for a long time. ‘Course one of my buddies in the home said giving me a law degree was like giving Jack the Ripper a new straight-razor. But, it gives me something to do, other than go to Afghanastan and dust poppies. BTW, I don’t blame you for becoming “williamwallace”. Braveheart in lowercase is lame. Take care.


  51. 51 Bob, journalist February 3, 2008 at 9:06 pm

    I enjoyed the first half, third quarter too … you would have too … if you had the under!

    I never knew that coaches could challenge when referees fail to call penalties … goodness! You can watch it … I’ve seen enough.

    Unfortunately, tain’t ever over ’til it’s over … I might just cash in … half a loaf is sometimes better than one; it all depends on how you slice it … which some folks find it easier than peeling the onion.

    I know they were trying real hard to impress but those kids doing the halftime show sure could have used some help getting dressed.

    Come October, y’all just remember what the Babe said about the Metropolitans gettin’ Santana … “You may have the greatest bunch of individual stars in the world, but if they don’t play together, the club won’t be worth a dime.

    MyLady, would you please change my 6:07 so that it’s credited to MrGil ‘stead of me … the thought that I might be responsible for contributing to his delinquencies might be more than I could bear.


  52. 52 Carolina Lady February 3, 2008 at 9:29 pm

    Hey, Bob! Our friend SJA inquired about you today. You and Carol continue to be in his prayers. (And ours!) I told him again how much we miss his presence.


  53. 53 berigan2electricboogaloo February 3, 2008 at 9:38 pm

    Greetings Paladin!


  54. 54 berigan2electricboogaloo February 3, 2008 at 9:46 pm

    Where is everyone???? It’s not super Tuesday! 😕


  55. 55 paladin24 February 3, 2008 at 9:50 pm

    Hello my sometime sparring-mate, and always friend, Berigan. And you are giving me the courage to change my moniker to supercalifragalisticexpedaladocious.boogie.boogie.


  56. 56 berigan2electricboogaloo February 3, 2008 at 9:57 pm



  57. 57 Hillbilly February 3, 2008 at 9:59 pm

    UN-BE-LIEVABLE….Goliath, meet David.


  58. 58 Carolina Lady February 3, 2008 at 10:06 pm

    uh, Berigan? You ok?? 😆


  59. 59 Bob, journalist February 3, 2008 at 10:07 pm

    It looks like I’m going to win both my bets and Beli Chick is no where to be found … could he be Chop Chick?


  60. 60 lew614 February 3, 2008 at 10:12 pm

    Paladin-Where are you getting your degree? My wife is Dean of Admissions at Vermont Law.

    Who’d a thunk the Superbowl would end up how it did. Good thing I wasn’t planning to go anywhere tonight. There’s going to be some pretty upset New Englanders running around. I have no idea how Manning got away from that sack and have no idea how Tyree caught the pass. Unbelievable.


  61. 61 berigan2electricboogaloo February 3, 2008 at 10:13 pm

    CL, I am not even a Football fan! Just happened to see the game was still close while eating, and kept watching when I got home. Just figured theres was no way, NO WAY, the Giants could win, especially after the too easy catch by Randy Moss….I almost always root for the underdog, and I am almost always sad at the end of games! Not this time!


  62. 62 berigan2electricboogaloo February 3, 2008 at 10:16 pm

    Lew, I thought that catch was just going to make the loss even more sad. Though, even if they lost, the Giants could hold their head up high just keeping it a close game!


  63. 63 Hillbilly February 3, 2008 at 10:18 pm

    I don’t care for either team. I told my wife I didn’t care who won, I just wanted to see a good game. I got my wish.


  64. 64 journalist jimmy smith February 3, 2008 at 10:20 pm

    oh, the humanity! what a game! eli manning will be getting some commercials now. maybe can take over mike vick’s shoe contract.

    jimmy smith got an e-mail from a blogger friend on that other blog and that blogger can no longer spell! that’s right, has lost the ability to spell and use good grammar. and to think. sad. thinking about coming over but doesn’t want to be the blog dummy.

    and this blogger was educated at princeton! just kidding, nobody over there went to princeton. barber college, maybe.

    and journalist bob and jimmy smith continue to have a blog home with carolina lady after being told good riddance. of course, had been gone for weeks when told that.

    anyway, carolina lady is now up for best of cox. can win $1,000 and will buy everybody a tee shirt. and barbecue. and pie.

    new sheriff in town. carolina lady.


  65. 65 mrgil February 3, 2008 at 10:22 pm

    Like I said, take the Giants and the points…. Did not expect an upset but did not think the Pats 12 points better…. All and all, a good game, in suspense all the way. No one any happier than the ’72 Dolphins…



  66. 66 mrgil February 3, 2008 at 10:25 pm

    JJS… Tell him not to worry, as long as I reside here he cannot be the blog dummy…. I have that slot sewn up. 🙂


  67. 67 Bob, journalist February 3, 2008 at 10:26 pm

    Thanks MY Lady! We are indeed sensitive to everyone’s kind thoughts, good wishes and prayers … extended family you are, and there just aren’t words in my limited usable vocabulary that properly express the importance and/or our appreciation … well, maybe just one …Thanks!

    I owe MHS a lot, including an email … and some other folks too … but then you folks know all about my good intentions.

    God Bless!


  68. 68 journalist jimmy smith February 3, 2008 at 10:28 pm

    well, it was a n.y. team and still jimmy smith was pulling for the giants. good win for the giants. sad that the atlanta falcons are in such disarray. arthur blank says arthur blank can get the falcons fixed pretty soon. and then wants to buy the braves. can say that here? imagine arthur blank in the dugout with bobby! and chino. sit in the middle? oh, the humanity!


  69. 69 mrgil February 3, 2008 at 10:30 pm

    Hot dang… hurry up with the JD Paladin… I have ton of lawyer jokes… 🙂


  70. 70 williamwallace February 3, 2008 at 10:30 pm

    Pops involuntarily flung his drink across the room on that unbelievable Eli to Tyree connection. I have never seen Pops that happy. Mom says the last time he was that happy was when Chris Chambliss hit the homer to put the Yankees in the World Series. Unbelievable. BIG BLUE!


  71. 71 chrisklob February 3, 2008 at 10:31 pm

    Hillbilly, I’m with you. I’m not really a football fan, and certainly not a fan of either team, but I did want to see a good game. It was good, no actually it was great, until the very end.

    I mentioned in a previous blog lead that I’m not really a fan of the game any more. In past years, I’ve watched it with one eye while the other eye worked on something more interesting. This year, for the first time, both of our children asked to stay up to see the game. I was reluctant to allow it as we like to have them in bed by 9pm at the absolute latest. However, because of the occasion, I relented. We had a great time together and I am very happy that I allowed them to stay up so late. I’ll catch heck from karenklob tomorrow but I’ll just deal with it then.

    Today was a great day today. Matt and I went out to the ball field and did baseball drills for about two hours. It won’t be long until he can throw harder than me. It was absolutely beautiful. Father and son, alone, bonding, talking trash, playing ball. The weather was awesome too.

    Paladin, it’s very nice to see you here. Are you going for your JD for any particular reason? You gonna rent out the back cover of the phone book or are you gonna set up a legit practice? Enquiring minds want to know!

    You’re right about the other blog. Nothing but Mets fans and idiots over there. Oops, sorry for the redundancy! Seriously, there’s just not much to visit there for any more. Hope to see you again soon.


  72. 72 Bob, journalist February 3, 2008 at 10:31 pm

    Oops, Berigan … there I go again … clean up time My Lady


  73. 73 mrgil February 3, 2008 at 10:33 pm

    Awaiting House as promised by Fox TV…. Not fair having to sit through the post game. Yes JJS… thought choice, especially as a Redskins fan. Still think Dan Snyder is and idiot. Joe Gibbs did not quit, he escaped.


  74. 74 mrgil February 3, 2008 at 10:36 pm

    Okay, time to quit for the night…. Last night I was dropping letters, now they are coming back…. AAAUUUGGGHHH!


  75. 75 chrisklob February 3, 2008 at 10:38 pm

    Last night I was dropping letters, now they are coming back

    Just another example of the yin and yang of life!


  76. 76 berigan2electricboogaloo February 3, 2008 at 10:40 pm

    Gil, football doesn’t quite have the thrill that you get during the baseball post game….all the energy seemed drained out…


  77. 77 chrisklob February 3, 2008 at 10:41 pm

    Anyone know who was named MVP? I missed it and can’t find it anywhere.


  78. 78 journalist jimmy smith February 3, 2008 at 10:43 pm

    “Today was a great day today. Matt and I went out to the ball field and did baseball drills for about two hours. It won’t be long until he can throw harder than me. It was absolutely beautiful. Father and son, alone, bonding, talking trash, playing ball. The weather was awesome too.”

    that was a great post. jimmy smith felt that one. jimmy smith has not always been a journalist. journalist has also been a daddy and a baseball coach. jimmy smith was right there with chrisklob and matt when reading that post. “absolutely beautiful” is as jimmy smith remembers it, too. good times.

    the football game was exciting – but let’s play some baseball.

    and what would happen if the players poured gatorade all over bobby cox? heart attack? stroke? that would mean the pennant, right?


  79. 79 chrisklob February 3, 2008 at 10:46 pm

    Thanks jjs! 🙂


  80. 80 chrisklob February 3, 2008 at 10:53 pm

    An Indian walks into a cafe with a shotgun in one hand pulling a male buffalo with the other. He says to the waiter: “Want coffee.”

    The waiter says, “Sure, Chief. Coming right up.” He gets the Indian a tall mug of coffee. The Indian drinks the coffee down in one gulp,
    turns and blasts the buffalo with the shotgun, causing parts of the animal to splatter everywhere and then just walks out.

    The next morning the Indian returns. He has his shotgun in one hand, pulling another male buffalo with the other. He walks up to the counter and says to the waiter: “Want coffee.”

    The waiter says “Whoa, Tonto! We’re still cleaning up your mess from yesterday.”What was all that about, anyway?”

    The Indian smiles and proudly says .. “Training for position in United States Congress: Come in, drink coffee, shoot the bull, leave mess for others to clean up, disappear for rest of day.


  81. 81 Carolina Lady February 3, 2008 at 10:54 pm

    Chris, I agree with our resident Journalist: that was a priceless picture! Bravo!


  82. 82 Bob, journalist February 3, 2008 at 11:02 pm

    Gil … what points? Much better bet straight up!! At least it is now!

    Jimmy, Gil is just being modest … or having us on … we do need a Blog dummy … it’s scary just how smart everyone is … but he’s no dummy … had himself made chief of a tribe with so many members that they formed their own baseball league … gotta be smart to do that and I doubt that he can sew either.

    I wouldn’t be too surprised if some of them what can’t spell went to Princeton … this was taken from the home page of one of the Princeton web sites …

    Welcome to your future, Here at PSHS wee excel in a learning environment that not only educates student in reading writing and math, but prepares them for a future as an adult in the real world. preparing them for the challenges that they will face as young adults and leave them with the satisfaction of knowing they came from a strong force guiding us through the rough change from youth to adult hood.



  83. 83 chrisklob February 3, 2008 at 11:10 pm

    CL, thanks for the kind words!


  84. 84 Bob, journalist February 3, 2008 at 11:16 pm

    what would happen if the players poured gatorade all over bobby cox? heart attack? stroke? that would mean the pennant, right?

    During Spring Training or end of season?

    Bye …


  85. 85 journalist jimmy smith February 3, 2008 at 11:20 pm

    oh, the humanity! journalist bob is suggesting this team might be better without bobby cox!


  86. 86 chrisklob February 3, 2008 at 11:21 pm

    Has Robert “jackaled” Bob, Journalist’s good name? Holy Cornelia!


  87. 87 chrisklob February 3, 2008 at 11:25 pm

    By the by, National Bourbon Day starts in approximately 35 minutes.


  88. 88 Carolina Lady February 3, 2008 at 11:29 pm

    journalist jimmy smith has some new photos on his photo page. He is in deep trouble.


  89. 89 journalist jimmy smith February 3, 2008 at 11:29 pm

    let arthur blank find bobby’s successor. oh, the humanity! no one will want the job! well, carolina lady has new photos to post from jimmy smith and there has been some reluctance on the part of carolina lady to do so. not sure if the photos will appear as submitted but we shall see. and h.k. should have some interesting graphs soon as the momentum on the carolina lady blog continues to build. can see carolina lady now . . . blogging away at carolina lady’s desk . . .


  90. 90 chrisklob February 3, 2008 at 11:33 pm

    jjs, why is hk not blogging with us on a regular basis?


  91. 91 flbravesgirl February 3, 2008 at 11:39 pm

    Great work, Lew! The true stories are always the funniest.

    jimmy, you’d better check your sources. I’m sure CL is younger, more fashionable & more up-to-date than the lady pictured.


  92. 92 Carolina Lady February 3, 2008 at 11:40 pm

    FBG, I think that photo is something from back in jimmy smith’s day. 🙂


  93. 93 Bob, journalist February 4, 2008 at 12:01 am

    It’s gettin’ where you can’t even ask an innocent question without folks drawing conclusions.


  94. 94 morpheus45 February 4, 2008 at 12:26 am

    Oh, the humanity! The Grinch, always a champion of the underdog, wanted the Giants to win. But he bet with his gut and brain! Nooooo! Ramen noodles for weeks, and precious little cash for Florida trip! Does Disney serve Spam sandwiches?


  95. 95 lew614 February 4, 2008 at 12:28 am

    Now Bob-I’ve never drawn a conclusion. Wouldn’t know what they looked like. I don’t do abstract.

    I have absolutely no emotional involvement as a fan with the Patriots, but will likely hear moaning and wailing from many I know up here in the Great White North who are. Hell-the Giants beat my Buccaneers in the first round of the playoffs. They’ve called out most of the state police forces in Massachusetts, Vermont and New Hampshire. I don’t know, but maybe they fear mass suicides.


  96. 96 morpheus45 February 4, 2008 at 12:28 am

    I am spam. Spam I am. I’ll likely eat green eggs and spam. D’oh!


  97. 97 flbravesgirl February 4, 2008 at 12:32 am

    Unfortunately Disney food is not cheap. It is, however, much better than what you get at the other theme parks. (You can get green eggs & ham at Universal.)

    I’d offer to feed you but it’s a little far to drive for meals.


  98. 98 berigan2electricboogaloo February 4, 2008 at 12:32 am

    Sorry about that, o’ mighty Grinch! I feel there must me a lot of new millionaires tonight! And some folks declaring bankruptcy….


  99. 99 morpheus45 February 4, 2008 at 12:33 am

    FBG, CL is as beautiful on the outside as she is on the inside; if only she were on the market she’d make some studley young fellow (like me) happy as could be. Alas, she chooses to remain unattainable; would it were not so. Still, one can always hope. 🙂


  100. 100 morpheus45 February 4, 2008 at 12:38 am

    Berigan, no bankruptcy (I’m too shrewd for that) but a nasty blow has been suffered nonetheless. Ouch. But, you places your money and you spins the wheel. As my good friend Kenny Rogers (not the pitcher) once said…well, y’all know where I’m going with that.

    At least the party was a success, as was the chili.


  101. 101 Carolina Lady February 4, 2008 at 12:42 am

    Grinch, your personal stock just went up 46%. (Thank you!) 🙂


  102. 102 berigan2electricboogaloo February 4, 2008 at 12:48 am

    CL, only 46%???? 😉


  103. 103 morpheus45 February 4, 2008 at 12:49 am

    Nothing but the plain unadulterated truth, ma’am. However, if my stock went up that high I advise all to sell; I might &%$# up any moment and cause it to crash. 🙂


  104. 104 berigan2electricboogaloo February 4, 2008 at 12:51 am

    Grinch,(I just know one day I will not correct Grich, ala Bobby Grich ) glad you still have some moola, and you won’t need to declare bankruptcy til coming back from buying room and board in Disney land! 😆


  105. 105 Bob, journalist February 4, 2008 at 12:57 am

    Grinch, that don’t mean too much with penny stocks … unless you own a bunch.


  106. 106 flbravesgirl February 4, 2008 at 1:02 am

    Time for me to go snuggle up with a book. Night y’all!


  107. 107 berigan2electricboogaloo February 4, 2008 at 1:03 am

    Just saw the first of no doubt many Payton-Eli ads(Or did I miss this and others before?) an Oreo cookie ad, where they join a new league. A licking the filling/icing league! 😛 Pretty dang goofy ad, I hope they were paid a lot. They will be kidded for this one. I’d be glad to make a fool of myself in a national ad if anyone wants to pay this poor boy what the Manning boys got paid…just thought I’d mention that! 😳


  108. 108 berigan2electricboogaloo February 4, 2008 at 1:04 am

    Goodnight flbravesgirl, goodnight Lew, goodnight John-boy!


  109. 109 morpheus45 February 4, 2008 at 1:28 am

    Grrrrrr…..I’ll make it back up next friday night in poker. In theory. 🙂


  110. 110 Bob, journalist February 4, 2008 at 1:29 am

    Lew, I can understand how a fine artist like yourself might have problems drawing conclusions because you wouldn’t know where to start … the beginning of conclusions being drawn is a difficult concept … but some folks seem to have no problem … methinks they must read the last chapter of the book first.


  111. 111 Carolina Lady February 4, 2008 at 1:31 am

    JerseyGil has some photos of the 2004 All Star Game in his Baseball Photos page. Check ’em out! 🙂


  112. 112 Bob, journalist February 4, 2008 at 2:16 am

    JerseyGil … those are some mighty fine photos … did you take them yourself? Which one is A-Rod?

    It might make folks think I’m old but I do recognize that last fella … and appreciate your 2004 recognition of number #21! He stuck around a couple of years too long … but can you imagine, 382 complete games … goodness, he was my kind of closer!


  113. 113 morpheus45 February 4, 2008 at 2:24 am

    OK, I’m done torturing myself with power ballads; time to hit the sack. I love you CL; yes I’m drunk, but that wouldn’t make a difference. 🙂 Night, all!


  114. 114 berigan2electricboogaloo February 4, 2008 at 6:14 am

    You have to be careful there Grinch, CUZ EVERY ROSE HAS IT’S THORN!!!!


  115. 115 berigan2electricboogaloo February 4, 2008 at 6:42 am

    Oh Lady, Carolina Lady!!!! I am kinda confused about the order of the lineup right about now….but, just so’s ya know…I have been messing around with one and I am about half done, so if the next in line can’t find his bat, let me know! If they are fine, I will still have one at the ready. Well, at least I won’t feel as panicky as I did the first time I had to think of a blog off the top of my head!!! I ain’t no SG or WW!!


  116. 116 Bob, journalist February 4, 2008 at 7:49 am

    I don’t know any lawyer jokes Gil but I know some lawyers who are …


  117. 117 mrgil February 4, 2008 at 7:58 am

    Good morning all, Another day closer to baseball season so it is a good day.

    Lots of polls on football greatest upsets show people have short memories. I still think the Jets upset of the Colts has to be number one, really…. There just was no comparison between the two leagues then. There have been games that made me personally upset….. The Raiders’ blow out of the Redskins comes to mind.

    Grinch, my dad taught me never to bet my fortunes on other people’s abilities. I would rather lose it fair and square to the black jack dealers…. I still wonder how I always draw a ten when I am sitting on 12 and the dealer can draw 7 cards to make 21…. Must be magic….

    My wife and I are taking two of the grand daughters to the hockey game Wednesday night. Richmond had a good crowd Saturday with 6500 folks in attendance. Isn’t it amazing what a 12 game winning streak will do to boost the gate. Too bad the wife has never been exposed to hockey before this year. She had no idea that there was a game for slow white guys…..

    I still love the game but could never have played it myself. Just never could skate…. My kids had no problem what so ever. Guess they got that from their mom.

    Okay, have a good day folks. Catch up with everyone later…


  118. 118 mrgil February 4, 2008 at 8:00 am

    Good morning Bob… Remind me to tell you how I managed to put both feet in my mouth at the same time one day while telling lawyer jokes… 🙂 Not tasty…


  119. 119 Voice of Reason February 4, 2008 at 8:32 am

    Good morning everybody…

    I am still recovering from my weekend snow-tubing trip to Winterplace Ski Resort in Ghent, West Virginia. The lovely Mrs. Raisins and I left Jefferson, GA on a bus with 20 middle and high schoolers and 5 adults Friday afternoon about 4:30pm in route to our overnight stop in Marion, Va. We arrived about 11:00pm at a church facility complete with a small dorm attached to a large gymnasium. After disembarking and stowing gear, a couple of the other adult men and I schooled the high school boys on the basketball court. (I may not have any “ups” anymore, but I can still clear out under the basket with the best of them. I inflicted more bruises than I received. 😀 ) Anyway, I accessed a deeper portion of my lungs than had been tapped in many years. I’m still coughing… We ended our game at 1:00am since we had to be packed and on the bus to leave at 7:00am for the remaining 1 1/2 hours to Winterplace. BTW – the youngsters stuck this old man with a TOP bunk. Nice, huh? We arrived for our 4 hours of snow-tubing by 9:00am, and by 1:30pm, we were back on the bus for the 8 hour trip back home.

    I arrived back home with little sleep, a deep cough and a whole lot of sore muscles. And for the icing on the cake, by Sunday afternoon, I had a full case of Montezuma’s revenge.

    I say all that to say this, man I had a great weekend !

    It’s good to back in this Brave new world.


  120. 120 Hillbilly February 4, 2008 at 9:43 am

    Poker Game? Careful Grinch. Just remember: Davey Scatino, Sopranos season 2, “The Executive Game.” Don’t want to find you sleeping in a tent display at a Sporting Goods store.


  121. 121 Voice of Reason February 4, 2008 at 9:49 am

    Edit: It’s good to be back in this Brave new world.


  122. 122 paladin24 February 4, 2008 at 9:56 am

    Sorry I had to run without saying goodnight, last night. But, you know me. It was well past my bedtime. Those of you who wish more info on my law “career” e-mail me at longstreethull@bellsouth.net and I will be glad to discuss it with you. Don’t want to bore others on here particularly BobJ, who apparently has had bad experiences with lawyers. I come from a line of lawyers including my brother who recently retired after 50 years of distinguished practice. And our great-grandfather, Thomas Reades Rootes Cobb codified the laws of Georgia and had a brilliant career ahead of him when he was killed at Fredericksburg. He was a Brigadier General in Longstreet’s Corps. ‘Nuff about all of this. Got to get to my studies.


  123. 123 Carolina Lady February 4, 2008 at 9:59 am

    Berigan, Lew just filled in for me (ultra-occupied here at home right now), so JJS is in the on-deck circle. I’ll run a drop cord out to the dog house for him. You can send yours any time and I’ll have it ready either for emergency pinch-hit duty or your regular slot. (Can’t wait to read it!) 🙂


  124. 124 Carolina Lady February 4, 2008 at 10:12 am

    The Atlanta Journal-Constitution
    Published on: 02/03/08

    FSN South and SportsSouth will be the primary broadcaster of Braves games this season, with the two networks airing a combined 106 regular-season games.

    An additional 45 games will be broadcast on Peachtree TV.

    ESPN2 will air the season opener March 30 against Washington.

    SportsSouth will air 81 games and FSN South will air 25 games. The networks will also televise seven Braves spring training games. The broadcast team of play-by-play announcer Jon Sciambi and analyst Joe Simpson return for a second season.

    The Braves’ two exhibition games against Cleveland at Turner Field will be broadcast on Peachtree TV.”

    That’s nice if you live in the area or in the geographically small MLB-designated Braves market. Most of us don’t. 😡


  125. 125 Carolina Lady February 4, 2008 at 10:30 am

    Braves may not keep Teixeira
    Posted: Sunday February 03, 2008 08:38AM ET
    The Braves aren’t encouraged about signing Mark Teixeira to a contract that will keep him off the free-agent market. He would be awfully attractive to several teams, including the Yankees and Orioles, who view him as a hometown hero. He agreed to a one-year, $12.5 million deal for 2008 but could be seeking one of those supersized, $20 million-a-year deals when agent Scott Boras shops him as a free agent.

    Chicago Tribune

    Mark Bowman’s assessment of Tex’s situation


  126. 127 mrgil February 4, 2008 at 11:00 am

    If one ever wondered at the validity of requiring a person to be over 35 to run for president of the united states, they need only to read some of the comments of other sports blogs to recognize the shallowness of youth…


  127. 128 Carolina Lady February 4, 2008 at 11:02 am

    Gil, I have to agree with you! 🙂

    VOR has a rare photo of the real Ted Williams! Baseball photo page.


  128. 129 nacly February 4, 2008 at 11:03 am

    Gil…is 35 old enough? I know parents with kids in college, and I’ll be darned if I could tell who the adults are? ❓


  129. 130 nacly February 4, 2008 at 11:05 am

    Whoa…CL! Look, I knew you had something different going here, but for the life of me, nude photos of Ted Williams was totally unexpected!!!


  130. 131 mrgil February 4, 2008 at 11:06 am

    On Mark Teixeira…. Let’s enjoy this season. He will do what he wants. I know money isn’t everything but an awful lot of it thrown at you can make you do some strange things.


  131. 132 mrgil February 4, 2008 at 11:09 am

    My… What a splendid splinter we is…. 🙂


  132. 133 mrgil February 4, 2008 at 11:11 am

    Yeah Salty…. It is scary but the “boomers” we have to choose from are not exactly world beaters… Then again, maybe that is a bad term….


  133. 134 nacly February 4, 2008 at 11:13 am

    Can’t argue there, Gil. For the most part, ‘boom’ is going ‘bust’!


  134. 135 mrgil February 4, 2008 at 11:14 am

    We have gone from the “Greatest Generation” to the “Me Generation” to the “I want all and I want it now Generation”…..


  135. 136 mrgil February 4, 2008 at 11:16 am

    Okay folks, It is back to mother’s today to take her out for a little while. It is a pretty day and I hate to miss opportunities. She will be 89 next week .


  136. 137 Carolina Lady February 4, 2008 at 11:23 am

    Agree with you both. The choices to vote for are not really choices. It’s a matter of who can do the least damage. Hopefully.

    Remember small ‘starter homes’? I see young families now buying $450,000 houses for their first homes. 2 SUVs, a couple of small children. How do they think they are going to pay for it? Taxes. And homeowner’s insurance in this county is astronomical. Gil, you summed it up with that commercial tag: “I want all and I want it now Generation”. They are no different that 4 yr-olds in that respect.

    I wish Tex would surprise us all and stay in ATL instead of chasing more millions.


  137. 138 lew614 February 4, 2008 at 11:31 am

    Well, I usually don’t agree much with what Mark Bowman has to say, but I think he’s right in this instance. The Braves will sign Teixeira. For crying out loud-the guy’s building a home in Atlanta. As for Baltimore-that is widely considered to be a radically dysfunctional franchise. Javy will set Tex straight about Angelos, who is at the moment, doing everything possible to screw up the Bedard deal his newly appointed GM worked out. The man may have made a bundle of bucks, but is still And Idiot. Tex will stay with the Braves.

    If only I were so certain that the And Idiots running for the Republican nomination for President would finally realize that Ronald Reagan is dead, has not been President for two decades and operated under radically different circumstances than they will have to. They need to learn the difference between apples and oranges. OH!!The Humanity. Then the Democrats need to learn that just saying you have experience does not make it a fact.


  138. 139 lew614 February 4, 2008 at 11:32 am

    AS to the Home Owner’s Insurance-My escrow payment just increased by $80 a month to cover the insurance increase.


  139. 140 nacly February 4, 2008 at 11:36 am

    $1000/year jump in insurance? Did I miss Vermont being slammed by a hurricane…on Champlain? Holy, ‘Oh the humanity’!


  140. 141 lew614 February 4, 2008 at 11:38 am

    Ron Reagan had to face double digit inflation and interest rates approaching 20%. I have often wondered what Jimmy Carter might have accomplished if the Prime Rate had been 4.25% like with W. Bush. Radical tax cuts are one thing under those circumstances-giving the top 5% of income earners an additional break under the current situation, with a Billion $ per week war being waged, is completely moronic.


  141. 142 lew614 February 4, 2008 at 11:40 am

    Salty-We rent in Vermont. We own a home in Orlando, (we kept it for investment purposes) where my son and daughter in law live. Yes, we were hit by three hurricanes. I have replace a good bit of my roof, my entire fence and all of the trees in my back yard. We will not even mention that I just spent $4 grand for a new heat pump/ac unit. I must still replace a window, the tile in my bathroom and the garage door.


  142. 143 lew614 February 4, 2008 at 11:41 am

    Oh, I must replace the screening on the back porch, too-in addition to the increased escrow payments.


  143. 144 Carolina Lady February 4, 2008 at 11:59 am

    VOR has more photos up! 🙂


  144. 145 nacly February 4, 2008 at 12:10 pm

    Forgot about Orlando. So, the flip side; what would your property taxes be in Vermont…not cheap, as I understand. Face it, someone gets you in the end. When I lived in Texas, no sale’s tax…nice. Thought about returning there; still no sale’s tax, but they’ve figured out what property taxes are…tripled or more since I left. Yikes!


  145. 146 savannahguy February 4, 2008 at 12:16 pm

    Braveheart, congrats on the Super Bowl win. The Manning to Tyree, uh…pass. Implausable. Incredible. Not pretty, not a Hail Mary and certainly not immaculate, but it did the trick. Seemed throughout the game that destiny was playing a role in. That and a fierce Giants defense that was unstoppable.

    Then…THE PLAY. It was inconceivable that Manning broke out of such a sure game-ending sack and wove, stumbled, fell forward through the tangled logjam, broke so many tackles and got the pass off.

    Then, Tyree with his one hand grab and helmet trap then two hands choking the ball and hanging on for dear life to complete the first down catch. It was not immaculate. It was the “Incredible Reception”.

    As much as I wanted the Patriots to win last night to make NFL history as an undefeated team and as shocking and bizarre as some plays were and as stunning as the outcome was, I’m happy to hear that you and your dad loved it.

    As long as the mom’s and pop’s are happy, all is well and good in the world. My very last visit with my dad was in 1978 while we were watching a Super Bowl together. He passed a few days after that. Cowboys beat the Broncos 27-10.

    Funny, I just had to look up the score since it’s been so long, but I’ll never forget our good conversation, good time and bonding together that special Sunday so long ago. We were pulling for the Cowboys that year. There’s not a single play I can recall from that game but I’ll always remember my dad when the Super Bowl comes around.

    Now…the Giants deserve their confetti parade and I’m ready for some baseball.

    GO BRAVES!!!


  146. 147 Carolina Lady February 4, 2008 at 12:40 pm

    Ours are not the only kids who have not received an education.

    Challenge Churchill! One in four think Winnie didn’t exist (but Sherlock Holmes did)



  147. 148 Bob, journalist February 4, 2008 at 12:56 pm

    His success as Schuerholz’s successor will be truly determined based on the results the Braves realize over the next eight months” … what an inane statement to make … moronic?

    Of course, there are those who might opine that concluding something is moronic is best left to the morons who have experience in such matters.

    Couldn’t sleep last night … time for a nap


  148. 149 journalist jimmy smith February 4, 2008 at 1:03 pm

    can it be? jimmy smith is on deck? and berigan in the hole? or is that right, carolina lady? (asking this question to see if carolina lady is speaking to jimmy smith today) 😆 all the pre-madonnas running for office make jimmy smith cringe with fear – because one will win. and perhaps bloggers are being too critical of the other blog and its posters (“two critical of the other blog and it’s poster’s” for those from the other blog). oh, the humanity! and the b&s beet writer will soon learn to spell and braves and stuff will have another one up on the other blog. already better looking and better manners. and what happens when a journalist uses up a cigar? pass it on down to a beet writer. and will there be news available here when spring training begins?

    stay tuned for an important announcement from carolina lady.

    the late cal cadaver will be reporting from spring training for this blog. expect some scoops.

    now, waivers . . . where did this term originate? wavy pavers? waivers?


  149. 150 williamwallace February 4, 2008 at 1:13 pm

    Thanks, Savannah. I used to really hate the Manning brothers. Hated them with a passion. I think it had to do with graduating from Bama but also with the whole golden boy thing and having them shoved down our throats. But over the last few years, Peyton has really grown on me – partly due to the commercials but also because I usually am in awe of the control and mastery Peyton has as a QB. I swear sometimes he throws interceptions and he must go to the sideleines and say that interception never should have happened because that defensive back was out of position. I think Peyton knows the plays of the defense better than the defenders do – without the aid of tapes like the Patriots have. BTW, I don’t care all that much if they were recording the other sidelines during games but if they recorded that Rams practice, that is disgusting, and Belichick should be banned from the NFL for life for that.

    I have been real slow to like Eli. But I started to like him more when I saw the abuse Tiki was throwing at him. I hate when vets and stars who are not anywhere near as good as they think they are, start picking on struggling young players. There is nothing worse than that to me. It always makes me hate the star and root for the struggling youngster.

    I don’t think the Giants win the Super Bowl if Tiki and Shockey were playing. I think Eli finally had the freedom to stop worrying about those two egomaniacs demanding the ball at all times and putting him down and he could just fling it to whoever was open, whether that was Plax, Tyree, Smith, Boss – whomever was open dependent upon what the defensive coverage dictated instead of just looking for two crybabies who kept demanding the ball.

    Tiki is probably the best running back in Giants history but his legacy will forever be tarnished because he proved it was all about him and never the team. Good luck with the Today Show Tiki.

    I’m not one who loves nasty taunts but there is one thing I would love to hear Eli Manning say this week:

    “Tell Tiki I got a ring.”

    But Eli is too classy for that.


  150. 151 flbravesgirl February 4, 2008 at 1:35 pm

    Lew, I hope you’re right about Tex. I had resigned myself to the fact that this would be his last season in Atlanta much like I did with Andruw last year (of course Andruw’s season softened the blow a little but I’ll still miss him).

    Great pics, guys! VOR, hilarious captions. JerseyGil, I love the Spahn picture. He kept a winter home here on the beach going back to the days when the Braves trained here in Bradenton. I believe his family still owns it (along with several rental cottages).


  151. 152 Bob, journalist February 4, 2008 at 1:39 pm

    Isn’t waivers an old nautical term that refers to folks being left behind?


  152. 153 Carolina Lady February 4, 2008 at 1:48 pm

    off to dr/hospital. back whenever.


  153. 154 journalist jimmy smith February 4, 2008 at 2:37 pm

    must be nap time.


  154. 155 Hillbilly February 4, 2008 at 2:53 pm

    journalist jimmy smith Says:
    February 4, 2008 at 2:37 pm
    “must be nap time.”

    National Bourbon Day according to ChrisKlob. Maybe not your everyday, typical, run-of-the-mill naps we’re talking about here.


  155. 156 Hillbilly February 4, 2008 at 2:56 pm

    First use of run-of-the-mill on the B & S Blog?


  156. 157 berigan2electricboogaloo February 4, 2008 at 4:06 pm

    VOR, loved the description of the snow-tubing trip!!! Made me wish it was me that was sore from all that fun! Of course, my ankle still bothers me from turning it 15+ years ago playing against the best middle aged 6 foot tall white basketball player in the world. But I still love the memories. It was 3 against one, and he still schooled us!
    And for you to be able to be in the snow for 4 hours on top of that, Man, I am jealous!!! I haven’t seen a decent snowfall since I left St. Louis in 1983. Heck, that last winter was a bust, only got 3-4 inches the whole winter, so make it winter of 1982….26 years ago???? Holy Moly, I feel old! 😦 🙂


  157. 158 berigan2electricboogaloo February 4, 2008 at 4:51 pm

    Some goofy cat photos, with really out there captions…


  158. 159 berigan2electricboogaloo February 4, 2008 at 5:22 pm

    I really hope you are right, and Tex signs a nice long contract(What will Boras ask for, 7-8 years?) because our lineup will have a monstrous hole without him in 2009.
    I think that there really is no way to know at this point in time. I posted this link for his house for sale in Texas a few weeks back. A house that was built in 2005….

    Needless to say, so much depends on what the braves do this year. Unless every starter’s rotator cuff tears in half in April(God forbid!) we will compete for the division or the wildcard. But, if we got in the first round and did a 3 and out, would the bitter taste make it easier for him to leave??? Would missing the playoffs by a game (or going to game 7 in the NLCS)make him want to stay to finish the job?
    Would winning it all make it impossible for him to leave???
    More importantly, IMO, is money. What would the Yankees, Red Sox, Mets, or O’s offer him??? If the Braves offered 20 mil a season for 7 years right now, would he sign??? Remember everyone, that Andruw is getting 18 Million a year for the next 2 years, and he hit .222 last year!!! 20 million would be a bargain.
    What if the Yankees offered 25-26 million a year??? You know A-Rod territory? Could we(Should we?) counter with 22, 23 million??? If you go that high, what is another Million or so????
    About the only thing we do know this year is if Tex is healthy, he will have a monster year, and drive in 130+ RBI’s……


  159. 160 jerseygil February 4, 2008 at 5:55 pm

    Good evening everyone
    You know i work for living…i just came home to relax, have a glass of wine and see what is going on with the Braves.
    WOW last night game was great, Like always my wife was cheer to the Patriot and me Giant, because of Miami Record, i a big Dolphin fan.

    Well thanks for the reaction of my Pic…Thanks Carolina lady.
    Lew i just read your post about the expenditure in your orlando Home…all your expenditure are Tax Deductible…also you problaly have a energy tax credit.

    About Tex situation, why he sold his Home in Tex and buy a new one in Atlanta surb? Is he planning to stay with the Braves?

    Like i promise yesterday….here is the Trivia of the day….and please do not google….WHO WAS THE FIRST BASEMAN FOR THE BRAVES DURING THEIR DIVISION WINNING SEASON OF 1982?



  160. 161 jerseygil February 4, 2008 at 6:12 pm

    Story about my PIC…my Friend Jose Cruz Sr. took much of this PIC in 2004 in Miunute maid Park…(ENRON Park)…The AROd Pic is with wiilie randold when they play with the Yankee.


  161. 162 mrgil February 4, 2008 at 6:14 pm

    Gerald Perry?


  162. 163 mrgil February 4, 2008 at 6:17 pm

    people sure are being stingy with information this season. I guess the sports writer have not yet returned from Arizona. I get more information on NASCAR than I do on the Braves.


  163. 164 jerseygil February 4, 2008 at 6:18 pm

    MrGIl….not….this player will be in Richmond this year as a batting Couch.

    Little clue


  164. 165 williamwallace February 4, 2008 at 6:25 pm

    Did he hit a dramatic homer against the Kansas City Royals, Jersey Gil?


  165. 166 jerseygil February 4, 2008 at 6:26 pm



  166. 167 jerseygil February 4, 2008 at 6:33 pm

    Times up for the trivia…i guess everyone are eating dinner….

    Answer: Chris Chamblis…


  167. 168 williamwallace February 4, 2008 at 6:33 pm

    Did he have a really big moustache?


  168. 169 jerseygil February 4, 2008 at 6:35 pm

    You guys miis a weeked in Orlando in Lew summer House…this was the prize for the trivia……

    Just kidding Lew….


  169. 170 lew614 February 4, 2008 at 6:38 pm

    Gil-Unfortunately since it is not my primary residence, I don’t get to deduct anything and do not get an energy credit despite putting in energy efficient equipment. At least I get to deduct the interest on my mortgage and the taxes and insurance.


  170. 171 lew614 February 4, 2008 at 6:40 pm

    JerseyGil- (got to get used to two Gils)-Actually, The Grinch IS spending a week down there with my son, daughter in law and myself.


  171. 172 jerseygil February 4, 2008 at 6:40 pm

    LEW…Did you Rent this property part of the Year? if you did you can report this in a K-1 Schedule


  172. 173 williamwallace February 4, 2008 at 6:42 pm

    JerseyGil, who was the last Brave with a 30 game hitting streak?


  173. 174 jerseygil February 4, 2008 at 6:47 pm

    The Guy is in Jail ….Dennis Mclain


  174. 175 jerseygil February 4, 2008 at 6:53 pm

    sorry my computer frezze….is Rico Carty 30 hitting streak…30 games pitcher winning is Dennis Mclain>


  175. 176 jerseygil February 4, 2008 at 6:55 pm

    I take this trivia question from a Braves Calander i have in my office.


  176. 177 journalist jimmy smith February 4, 2008 at 6:58 pm

    carolina lady recommended julio as strength and conditioning coach. journalist thinks that is chino. instead, jimmy smith would advocate julio as batting coach – or spring instructor – or something to do with teaching players to hit and put the ball in play. and mike vick gets to keep the money! arthur blank is truly having a bad run. lawyer bills must be mounting. too bad paladin couldn’t have gotten some of that. of course, paladin might have won the case instead of l-o-o-s-i-n-g (old blog habits hard to beat). and the n.y. giants defensive coach arthur blank decided not to wait for . . . is the hottest coaching candidate to be found after the performance of the giants defense in the super bowl. oh, the humanity! hammer to the thumb.


  177. 178 jerseygil February 4, 2008 at 7:03 pm

    This the year of old player return or tried to return….addional to Javy Lopez, now the Cardinal announce they sign Juan Gonzalez…..Where is JULIO????


  178. 179 mrgil February 4, 2008 at 7:16 pm

    Angelos and Snyder are cut from the same cloth Lew. Both are smart, both are rich, both don’t know how to stay out of the kitchen…. Ted Turner learned the hard way that running a successful sports franchise meant hiring people that knew the business and getting out of the way. Angelos still has not figured it out. A very proud and successful franchise laid waste by “and ” idiot


  179. 180 mrgil February 4, 2008 at 7:21 pm

    Even I am smart enough to know what I don’t know….. Isn’t it strange how many folks try to reinvent the wheel? Always some guy who thinks he is smarter than everyone else and then proves he isn’t…


  180. 181 williamwallace February 4, 2008 at 7:32 pm

    Darn, Jerseygil really does know his Braves. Quick with that answer. I actually didn’t know it. Had to get the question and answer off a Braves trivia web page. I cheated.

    Julio can’t be a Braves coach. He’s too fit. Julio needs a gut and a double chin to be a Braves coach.

    There is little that Julio could not teach a young player. Julio could do it all. Was a good middle infielder long before he became a first baseman, a good hitter, a good basestealer when young, hit for contact, won a batting title, a 3 time All Star, hit for modest power, got clutch hits, could pinch hit, could platoon, valued physical fitness and dedication to the game, was willing to persevere despite disappearing from the game for many years before resurfacing in 2001. Think about the things he could teach a youngster about the peaks and valleys of the game and how to play and prepare to play.

    But, first, he needs to get a gut and a double chin.


  181. 182 williamwallace February 4, 2008 at 7:39 pm

    SANTIAGO, Dominican Republic — Tampa Bay Rays infielder Willy Aybar is in custody in his native Dominican Republic for domestic violence charges, according to a local prosecutor.

    Aybar, 24, has been held without bail since Thursday for allegedly assaulting his wife in Baní, about 25 miles south of Santo Domingo.

    “Aybar is in jail since last week, and he could spend at least three more months in jail if he is convicted of domestic violence,” said Jesus Fernandez Velez, the appeals court prosecutor in charge.

    The Rays acquired Aybar and Chase Fontaine when they sent left-hander Jeff Ridgway to the Atlanta Braves in mid-January. Aybar missed the 2007 season with a wrist injury.

    Aybar has a .292 career average with five home runs and 40 RBIs in 105 games.


  182. 183 jerseygil February 4, 2008 at 7:41 pm

    williamwallace….i don’t know everyting….i lern stub everyday…this calander i have in my office show a lot Braves fact that i didn’t know before.
    About Julio…i think that last year when we send Julio to the Minor league for a few week until we recoll it in Sept was a moved to keep him in the organization until Bobby retired and Terry Pendleton take over the Braves Manager position and then Julio can be the Batting coach, but i guess the Braves Change the Idea this year, because we sign Chris Chambliss for a Richmond team. I guess he will be in next year with the Braves.


  183. 184 jerseygil February 4, 2008 at 7:50 pm

    WOW…the Braves now look like that make a great deal with Aybar….
    This kid need mental help…like Britney,…they doesn’t get it


  184. 185 mrgil February 4, 2008 at 7:53 pm

    Do you think it might just be bad karma to be a Devil Ray? Oops, Ray??? At least Tampa has lots of experience with players behaving badly… A trade to Washington perhaps, could be a heck of fit for Washington. That town is very use to butt heads running around.


  185. 186 journalist jimmy smith February 4, 2008 at 8:01 pm

    ingrown toenails. who can forget the mark redman toenail crisis that ended mark redman’s run with the atlanta braves? another reason for toe integrity on this team.


  186. 187 lew614 February 4, 2008 at 8:38 pm

    JerseyGil- Believe me, I have explored every way that I can to pay less taxes. I have an accounting firm do my taxes. They know me, have done my taxes for five years and this is the best way to go. Uncle W is not middle class friendly. You don’t even want to know how much we pay in taxes. It would support someone at above the poverty level, between the Feds, Social Security and state. I have to pay 100% of my own Social Security since I am self employed.


  187. 189 lew614 February 4, 2008 at 8:51 pm

    The Braves sure called the shots on Aybar. They dumped him at just the right time. Looks like it’s a good deal we got anyone for him. What a waste to have ML talent and throw it all away like he has. The kid needs to get his act together while he has the chance. I would imagine doors are closing all around him.


  188. 190 Bob, journalist February 4, 2008 at 8:58 pm

    Even I am smart enough to know what I don’t know” … Gil, I know that most certainly you are but mon ami, you make it sound like everyone with a modicum of intellect or acumen should so also know … when indeed, it is a relatively rare quality … were you to have been aligned with management, you would know that it is what separates the wheat from the chaff.

    Most things of consequence are complex and what some find strange, others find natural … methinks it’s better to try to recreate and/or improve upon something than to use it without understanding … I don’t mind using some of the other fella’s code if he’s a trusted friend who writes good code, … but, as I found out today, it’s usually best to ask someone other than your barber if you need a haircut.


  189. 191 jerseygil February 4, 2008 at 9:01 pm

    Lew…i just want to give little big of advice…it free …lot of people trust their acoountant and look what happen to Enron.I have a property in Puerto Rico is rent year around…i deduct all my expense including depreciation of the property and i always have a lost, that lost reduce my taxes sometime 40%…including my social security tax…i’m also have income as selfemployee…i’m doing some consulting and also work for the local government.


  190. 192 jerseygil February 4, 2008 at 9:03 pm

    enogh with taxes…let talk Braves …..Lew give me your opinion about which one should be our line up this year.Did you think that Kelly should bat second or Kotsay?


  191. 193 lew614 February 4, 2008 at 9:25 pm

    Jersey Gil-I don’t rent the house. My son and daughter in law live there so I don’t have to rent to someone I don’t know. I have already more than doubled my money on the place in ten years, even figuring that property values have declined somewhat. It’s nothing but a savings account for me. When we retire I will sell it and pocket the bucks. In the meantime my kids can live and put away money for their own place.

    As for the lineup:
    2.Kelly Johnson
    6.Frenchy/Javy (every fifth day)
    7.Ciaz/Brandon Jones

    That’s how I would start out and tweak it if necessary. If Kotsay is back and hitting good, I might switch him and let Kelly bat 7th and bat Diaz?Brandon 8th.


  192. 194 Carolina Lady February 4, 2008 at 9:31 pm

    Lineup Card Reminder:
    jimmy smith – #19 submitted and ready to go
    Chop Seal
    Bob, J


  193. 195 Bob, journalist February 4, 2008 at 9:36 pm

    I think Kelly should bat Kotsay second, I would if I were the manager …

    It’s funny that I like to write but I hate to read what I write” … Ain’t it the truth … but I stopped telling folks that when someone agreed with me.

    Plum tuckered out at 8:36 … goodness!


  194. 196 journalist jimmy smith February 4, 2008 at 9:54 pm

    the plum has tuckered? hard to find a good plum these days. and will frank be having a party to kick-off spring training? and which bloggers will be invited?


  195. 198 flbravesgirl February 4, 2008 at 10:25 pm

    Julio is remarkable. I wish he could find enough in the tank to play to 50 but it appeared that time was catching up last year.

    Berigan, 😆 at the cat pics. Just hysterical.

    I’m very sorry to read that about Aybar. Very sad situation.


  196. 199 mrgil February 4, 2008 at 11:01 pm

    Bob…. A friend once shared this with me and I am going to pass it along to others on the Braves & Stuff blog. It has served me well over the years as I have been able to put every single person I have ever worked for or with or for me into one of the following categories.

    Dick’s 4 levels of “stupidability”

    1. The aggressive intelligent… These are exactly the kind of folks you want to have working for you. No problem is too tough for them. They attack every task with vigor and because the are intelligent, they never cause a problem because they alway do the right thing.

    2. The lazy intelligent… These folks are also intelligent but unfortunately lazy. Again, these people seldom create a problem because when prodded they too are productive because they always Know how to do the right thing.

    3. The lazy stupid… Now these folks have the potential to screw things up but because they are lazy, they rarely cause problems because because even though they do not know what to do, they seldom make the problem worse because of their inaction.

    4. The stupid aggressive… These folks should be avoided like the plague. These are the folks that create 90% of all the problems you might encounter because even though they have no clue as to solve a problem, they fling themselves headlong into the fray and really make a royal mess of every situation.

    I bet everyone reading this can think of someone and put them into one of these four categories. 🙂


  197. 200 chrisklob February 4, 2008 at 11:22 pm

    mrgil, I like your list of stupidability. Yes, I know people in all of those categories. Unfortunately, while thinking of the “stupid aggressives” I realized that most of the people that I work with qualify easily. Probably a big part of the reason I am leaving my job………………..

    What a shame about Aybar. All that talent. All those demons. Here’s to hoping that he tames those demons well enough to have a normal life.


  198. 201 flbravesgirl February 4, 2008 at 11:25 pm

    Leaving for a better one, I hope?


  199. 202 chrisklob February 4, 2008 at 11:37 pm

    I hope so!


  200. 203 flbravesgirl February 4, 2008 at 11:43 pm

    Hmmm. Any chance of you squeezing the spring training trip in between jobs? The more the merrier.


  201. 204 lew614 February 4, 2008 at 11:51 pm

    Ma’am-Don’t schedule me for another intro until well into March. I will not even be blogging while I’m in Orlando and won’t get back until March. Maybe my next one will be about What I Did On My Spring Training Vacation. Sounds like a good back to school assignment.


  202. 205 chrisklob February 4, 2008 at 11:52 pm

    fbg, I’ve been planning on making a trip down there this year. I used to go every year but haven’t been able to the past three for various reasons. I have a sneaking suspicion that I won’t be able to do it this year for financial reasons. Financially speaking, I’m covered for the next few months but don’t know if I’ll be able to convince the wifey that a ST trip is a good idea.


  203. 206 lew614 February 4, 2008 at 11:55 pm

    I don’t know about tuckering plums. Sounds pretty perverse to me.


  204. 207 flbravesgirl February 5, 2008 at 12:03 am

    I was afraid that might be a reason, Chris. We’ll just have to find another way for you to spend quality time with the baked goods. Maybe next season we could have a blog get-together at the Ted. I know not everyone lives close enough to get there but quite a few are within driving distance, right?


  205. 208 chrisklob February 5, 2008 at 12:15 am

    fbg, I am about five hours away from ATL and would be very happy to meet some of the other denizens!


  206. 209 flbravesgirl February 5, 2008 at 12:24 am

    Once I move (maybe not by the end of this season but certainly by next season) I’ll be about an hour & 45 mins. north of the ballpark. We’ve already discussed weekend trips to ATL for shopping & restaurants we can’t get in Rabun & then ballgames at night.


  207. 210 flbravesgirl February 5, 2008 at 12:58 am

    (crickets chirping)

    Must be time to retire for the evening. Night y’all.


  208. 211 berigan2electricboogaloo February 5, 2008 at 1:19 am

    I don’t even hear crickets!!! :p
    I wish I could go to spring training, but I can’t. Well anyway, when all you losers are in Disney world, eating swell food, seeing spring training game live….”winners” like me will be holding down the fort. Wait, everyone but me will be there?? Having the time’s of their lives??? So what? Who cares, I will be watching reruns of Futurama…that I have seen dozens of times before. Sniff…. 😦


  209. 213 mrgil February 5, 2008 at 8:11 am

    Good morning folks, Surfing the web and catching up on political news…. In taking an informal poll consisting of members of my family who are of voting age I can say it is anybody’s race.

    I love it when folks might actually have to wait until the conventions to select a candidate.

    On a more serene plane… Baseball news is still sparse. I guess the beet writers are still trying to overcome the hangovers of the Superbowl. It is funny how so many have anointed the Mets as the “Dream Team”. Does anyone remember the same hoopla that bestowed the same upon the Braves last year when they traded for Tex?


  210. 214 chrisklob February 5, 2008 at 8:22 am

    Gil, all the love the Mets are getting is sickening. They’ve done next to nothing to help themselves this off season. The 08 roster looks like it will largely be the same as last year and as Lew has pointed out several times, they were sub .500 after May. Not exactly world beaters.

    On the other side, let all those nasty Mets fans get their hearts broken again when the Amazin’s don’t live up to their expectations! It’s almost as gratifying as seeing the Bravos win!


  211. 215 Bob, journalist February 5, 2008 at 8:31 am

    When I mention London Fog, most folks think I talking about my raincoat, and a good one it is … but, I ain’t! Those British kids who said that Winnie, King Richard, Florence Nightingale, Monty, Sir Walter, the Duke of Wellington, Cleopatra, Dickens and Gandhi didn’t exist, while Sherlock Holmes did … know what I mean ’cause they’re living in it. Berigan will tell you they were obviously on marijuana but upon reflection and in deference to Lew, those kids are in a fog and smoking something else!



  212. 216 Chop Seal February 5, 2008 at 8:48 am

    BRaking NEws:
    WASHINGTON (AP) – Not one of Roger Clemens’ flat-out denials about using steroids or human growth hormone was delivered while he spoke under oath. Now he gets that chance.

    “Roger is not going to take the Fifth Amendment,” one of Clemens’ lawyers, Rusty Hardin, said in a statement e-mailed by spokesman Joe Householder. “He is going to answer the committee’s questions truthfully under oath.”

    Remember, no CrYing in BasEball.


  213. 217 Voice of Reason February 5, 2008 at 8:59 am

    Good morning to all in this Brave new world!

    I’m not so sure about a London fog, Sir BobJ, but there is most certainly a fog surrounding many of the candidates on today’s ballot on this Super Tuesday. Let’s hope that there is less of a fog surrounding the voters. (I am not, however, too optimistic in that regard…) How appropriate that Super Tuesday should coincide with Fat Tuesday, eh?

    Perhaps a little Super Tuesday election trivia?

    GWB is our 43rd president, but there actually have been only 42 presidents. Grover Cleveland was elected for 2 non-consecutive terms and is counted as both our 22nd and 24th president.


  214. 218 journalist jimmy smith February 5, 2008 at 9:13 am

    journalist bob knew grover cleveland – second term. 😆


  215. 219 Bob, journalist February 5, 2008 at 9:18 am

    Multi-talented, when he wasn’t busy being president, Grover Cleveland found time to pitch too!


  216. 220 Voice of Reason February 5, 2008 at 9:19 am

    They all pitch, Sir Bob, they all pitch…


  217. 221 Bob, journalist February 5, 2008 at 9:22 am

    Well said mon ami, well said!


  218. 222 Carolina Lady February 5, 2008 at 9:47 am

    Interesting Google search term that showed up on our stats page:
    “quote`s from williamwallace”

    Got some fans, ww! 🙂


  219. 224 ssiscribe February 5, 2008 at 9:58 am

    Top of the morning and a quick one as the fish are frying this morning and the cold/flu bug ain’t a’shakin’ like I wish it would.

    CL, lemme know when you want my next blog and I’ll e-mail it to you. I probably won’t get to it until tonight after other duties are fulfilled, but I should turn it pretty quick.

    Bob, thanks much for the note. Greatly appreciated. I’ll respond sometime today or tonight.

    Happy Birthday, indeed, to the Hammer (no, not M.C., for those of you who are of my generation). Henry always will be the home run king to this Scribe.

    Grinch, got your text last night. Sounds like you’re playing catch-up at poker Friday night. But you gotta admit, it was a great game. I wrote last night on Big League Blog it was the greatest Super Bowl ever, IMHO.

    And didn’t Ronald Reagan play Grover Cleveland Alexander in a movie?

    Selah, good folks!

    The Scribe abides.



  220. 225 berigan2electricboogaloo February 5, 2008 at 10:03 am

    Pitch, and shovel….


  221. 226 Carolina Lady February 5, 2008 at 10:08 am

    JerseyGil has some new baseball photos posted!

    Scribe, anytime you want to send it is fine. Gives me time to get them transcribed to the WordPress format, etc. I know it’ll be another good one!

    Speaking of pitching and shoveling:


  222. 227 Voice of Reason February 5, 2008 at 10:17 am

    Great article, CL. Thanks…


  223. 228 berigan2electricboogaloo February 5, 2008 at 10:21 am

    I don’t think I can ever recall an election day where I didn’t know who I’d vote for! Yikes! Double yikes! I was ready for Rudy….oh well….Fred Thompson??? He seemed ok, if a bit sleepy. Oh well….
    Hmm…the other 3 have been tarred and feathered with the L word, yes, they are all lesbian’s in men’s bodies! But, more people seem to be bothered that they are not clones of Reagan. I had decided the lesser of 3 evils was Mitt, then I saw a Townhall.com column that showed he is as big a flip flopper as anyone. Sigh…… eenie meanie minie mo


  224. 229 nacly February 5, 2008 at 10:21 am

    CL…the most telling piece in the article, in my view, was:
    “The American presidency isn’t just about making decisions; it’s about setting examples, avoiding conflicts of interest, creating positive perceptions, unifying the electorate.”


  225. 230 Voice of Reason February 5, 2008 at 10:38 am

    The polling place where I voted early this morning is a fire station which had been effectively abandoned to make way for the election process. As I was standing in line, I wondered to myself what would happen if there were a fire nearby. Suddenly, we all heard the sound of squealing tires and crumpling metal from an auto accident right in front of the fire station. Where were the first responders? As I left about 10 minutes later, there were still no first responders on sight, directly in front of a fire station. Fortunately, there did not appear to be any injuries involved, aside from the psyche of the teenager being verbally berated by the lady from the car whom she rear-ended. It was all a bit surreal… 😕


  226. 231 journalist jimmy smith February 5, 2008 at 10:44 am

    journalist has it on good authority that a voter went to a nashville polling place this morning and was greeted by a young poll worker . . . “sir, may i help you?”

    “methinks, i am here to exercise my franchise.”

    “sir, this is the line for voting. the gym is next door.”

    oh, the humanity! journalist’s jokes are getting worse and worse. may be time to step back and reflect. sunlight.


  227. 232 Voice of Reason February 5, 2008 at 10:46 am

    Is it appropriate to use the phrase “exercise my franchise” on a family blog? 😉


  228. 233 Carolina Lady February 5, 2008 at 10:49 am

    There’s not one on either side I want to vote for. Berigan, I know what you mean –

    Salty, I agree; that was an excellent line. Wish the ‘candidates’ held to that!

    HAPPY BIRTHDAY, HANK!! I love the photo of him I found for my baseball page. Would make an excellent portrait, Lew! (I’ll cover your regular slot in the Lineup!)


  229. 234 Carolina Lady February 5, 2008 at 10:54 am

    VOR, we’ve used the VFD, a school (great fun fighting for space with all the parents dropping off/picking up kids, school buses, etc). Got to be a better solution!


  230. 235 Bob, journalist February 5, 2008 at 11:47 am

    All I know is that Milt Romney having pancakes yesterday morning increased the time it took us to get to Vanderbilt … exorcist or no, one’s franchise should not be confused with granite … lest it be moved to another city or in some cases another county like Gwinnett. … that which you don’t use, you may lose.

    Think of it … on Super Tuesday, all Washington is gathered in secret to hear what Roger has to say … wonder if we’ll ever find out either the truth or what he says … if we do, it’ll be a bigger surprise to me than happened on Super Sunday!


  231. 236 Voice of Reason February 5, 2008 at 11:53 am

    Excuse me, Sir Bob, but did you allude to truth in Washington?


  232. 237 Carolina Lady February 5, 2008 at 11:55 am

    VOR, “truth” in DC is what is told to cover up what really happened.


  233. 238 williamwallace February 5, 2008 at 12:19 pm

    Oh, that’s too funny, CL. I just did that google search myself to see how googling quotes from williamwallace would end up taking someone to braves and stuff. We’re 14th down on the list when you enter that search term.


  234. 239 savannahguy February 5, 2008 at 12:24 pm

    The Undecided Voter

    Guy: Who are you voting for?

    Fella: I don’t know yet.

    Guy: It’s the day of the election. Super Tuesday!

    Fella: Oh!

    Guy: Maybe I can help. What’s your position on senators as Presidents?

    Fella: I don’t know about that.

    Guy: How about Iraq? Iran? Global warming propaganda?

    Fella: I don’t really know about those things.

    Guy: Abortion? Tax solutions? Health care? Border protection? Amnesty?

    Fella: Hmmm…dunno. No opinion.

    Guy: Conservative? Liberal?

    Fella: Conservative!

    Guy: Ok then, now we’re getting somewhere.

    Fella: I feel better already.

    Guy: Do you want a power hungry little senator that has consistently voted against conservative values, voted for amnesty, voted against lower taxes, paired with Feingold and Kennedy and railed against the conservatives?

    Fella: Uh…who is that?

    Guy: Or want a Governor that has been liberal in his record, wears religion on his sleeve and is running for VP and serving as a spoiler?

    Fella: Who? Spoiler? What’s up with that?

    Guy: Or do you want a Governor that has demonstrated conservative leadership even while competing in a blue state in New England?

    Fella: Blue state?

    Guy: Why do you suppose Senators don’t make good Presidents?

    Fella: Uh…what?

    Guy: Ok, let’s make it easy. What qualities do you look for in a candidate?

    Fella: Strong convictions.


  235. 240 Hillbilly February 5, 2008 at 12:25 pm

    From the National Weather Service:


    Lord, help me. I hear those linear lines are the WORST kind of lines. 🙄


  236. 241 savannahguy February 5, 2008 at 12:30 pm

    The Undecided Voter

    Guy: Do you know that ignorance and apathy is rampant in America?

    Fella: I don’t know and I don’t care.

    Guy: Please don’t vote.

    Fella: But some of the political ads are so instructional. Senator voted for the surge after all and his ads say, “True Conservative”.

    Guy: Almost every Republican Senator voted FOR the surge.

    Fella: But they didn’t advertise that so it doesn’t count as much.

    Guy: Your and idiot.


  237. 242 Voice of Reason February 5, 2008 at 12:35 pm

    Now… baseball. (How was that , JJS?)

    As Spring Training 2008 nears (9 days, 23 hours, 40 minutes… but who’s counting?), a few questions remain:

    1.) Can Kotsay stay healthy?
    2.) Who bats 1-2?
    3.) Will Diaz play every day, or can BJones win some ML playing time?
    4.) BPena or Javy?
    5.) If Javy, whither BPena?
    6.) Bench?
    and my personal favorite,
    7.) What moves will the new homeboy upstairs make before camp breaks? Any surprises?

    I realize that these topics are not new. I just felt the need to re-direct attention back to Braves and stuff…

    OK, discuss…


  238. 243 nacly February 5, 2008 at 12:40 pm

    CL…it was a good line; however, in this day and time, unifying the electorate is a waste of energy, if for no other reason than the electorate can’t agree on what would unify them! Of course, the media can define it for them, but…that’s just another caldron of disinformation!


  239. 244 Voice of Reason February 5, 2008 at 12:41 pm

    By the way, Hillbilly, I heard about these strong storms this morning. It sounds as though they will be particularly nasty and potentially very dangerous through Arkansas. Take cover!!! 😯


  240. 245 nacly February 5, 2008 at 12:42 pm

    VOR…redirect attention back to Braves…<andStuff has been getting all the blog-time! 🙂


  241. 246 berigan2electricboogaloo February 5, 2008 at 12:46 pm

    read this column on Romney and now I will instead vote for…ummm, I’ll let you know…Is Alfred E. Newman on the ballot????? 😉


  242. 247 Hillbilly February 5, 2008 at 12:51 pm

    VOR, I still haven’t gotten my fridge re-stocked from last week’s wind-storm-induced power-outage. Oh, well. A little “Dark Side of the Moon” and a peanut butter sandwich might tide me over until this evening, and maybe then I’ll be dining with the good witch in Munchkinland tonight. Do they offer the Extra Innings package over the rainbow?


  243. 248 Voice of Reason February 5, 2008 at 12:55 pm

    I’m not sure about Extra Innings, but I’m sure you can get MLB.TV if you can find a “rainbow connection”… 😉


  244. 249 mrgil February 5, 2008 at 1:05 pm

    “Sometimes a majority simply means all the fools are on the same side” – Mark Twain


  245. 250 Bob, journalist February 5, 2008 at 1:15 pm

    I just busted my thumb … must be a blue blood ’cause that’s the color … goodness! Yes, goodness is a code word oft used … means it hurt.

    My references to “truth” in Washington, are probably more illusion than allusion … excepting George of course … he was full of it, truth that is.

    I think he once said that the State of Delaware was so small that he could throw a silver dollar across it … today’s disrespectful youngsters would call him a liar and I’ll admit that it may have been a slight exaggeration … but, I wouldn’t be too sure … they just don’t realize how much further a dollar went back then.

    Bowman’s projected batting order has Yunel leading off and Kotsay hitting second with Matt and Kelly hitting seventh and eighth … I don’t buy it but my biggest concern is with TP and those responsible for pregame preparation … wish we had Greg Maddux for that.


  246. 251 mrgil February 5, 2008 at 1:18 pm

    Bob…. One thing for sure, a dollar just doesn’t go as far as it use to…


  247. 252 mrgil February 5, 2008 at 1:21 pm

    I would think you would have to have a pretty strong line up to have Kelly hitting eight.


  248. 253 Carolina Lady February 5, 2008 at 1:38 pm

    The Cat from Heaven

    A pastor had a kitten that climbed up a tree in his backyard and then was afraid to come down. The pastor coaxed, offered warm milk, etc. The kitty would not come down.

    The tree was not sturdy enough to climb, so the pastor decided that if he tied a rope to his car and drove away so that the tree bent down, he could then reach up and get the kitten. He did all this, checking his progress in the car frequently, then figured if he went just a little bit further, the tree would be bent sufficiently for him to reach the kitten. But as he moved a little further forward… the rope broke.

    The tree went “boing!” and the kitten instantly sailed through the air – out of sight. The pastor felt terrible. He walked all over the neighborhood asking people if they’d seen a little kitten. Nobody had seen a stray kitten.

    So, he prayed, “Lord, I just commit this kitten to your keeping,” and went on about his business.

    A few days later he was at the grocery store, and met one of his church members. He happened to look into her shopping cart and was amazed to see cat food. Now this woman was a cat hater and everyone knew it, so he asked her, “Why are you buying cat food when you hate cats so much?”

    She replied, “You won’t believe this,” and told him how her little girl had been begging her for a cat, but she kept refusing. Then a few days before, the child had begged again, so the Mom finally told her little girl, “Well, if God gives you a cat, I’ll let you keep it.”

    She told the pastor, “I watched my child go out in the yard, get on her knees, and ask God for a cat. And really, Pastor, you won’t believe this, but I saw it with my own eyes. A kitten suddenly came flying out of the blue sky, with its paws spread out, and landed right in front of her.”


  249. 254 Carolina Lady February 5, 2008 at 1:46 pm

    A deputy police officer responded to a report of a barroom disturbance. The “disturbance” turned out to be well over six feet tall and weighed almost 300 pounds. What’s more, he boasted that he could whip the deputy and Muhammad Ali too.

    Said the policeman; “I’ll bet that you’re also an escape artist-probably better than Houdini.”

    The giant nodded.

    “If I had some chains,” the deputy continued, “you could show us how strong you really are. But all I’ve got is a set of handcuffs. Why don’t you see just how quickly you can break out of them?”

    Once in the cuffs, the man puffed, pulled and jerked for four minutes. “I can’t get out of these,” the giant growled.

    “Are you sure?” the deputy asked.

    The fellow tried again. “Nope,” he replied. “I can’t do it.”

    “In that case,” said the deputy, “you’re under arrest.”

    How much longer to ST??


  250. 255 Voice of Reason February 5, 2008 at 1:48 pm

    If it were my lineup, it would be:

    Against righties:
    1. KJ (L)
    2. Yunel (R)
    3. Hoss (S)
    4. Tex (S)
    5. Mac (L)*
    6. Frenchman (R)
    7. Kotsay (L)
    8. Diaz (R) – BJones (L) gets an occasional start, but not a strict platoon.

    Against lefties:
    1. Yunel (R)
    2. KJ (L)
    3. Hoss (S)
    4. Tex (S)
    5. Frenchman (R)
    6. Mac (L)*
    7. Diaz (R)
    8. Kotsay (L)

    * Note: On the “fifth day” that the backup catcher, whomever that will be, catches, Frenchy stays at 5 regardless of pitcher, with catcher batting 6. However, should BPena win the backup job, you could bat him 5th and have 3 switch-hitters in a row… interesting…


  251. 256 journalist jimmy smith February 5, 2008 at 2:00 pm

    hoss? who is this “hoss”?

    journalist would probably bat uh, chipper third. journalist would probably stick with one leadoff man, too. this is what makes baseball fun. at least bobby can’t bat andruw cleanup this year.

    and remember, the other team’s manager writes the atlanta braves lineup with the other manager’s pitcher selection.


  252. 257 journalist jimmy smith February 5, 2008 at 2:03 pm

    so many lefthanders . . . so many, many lefthanders.


  253. 258 lew614 February 5, 2008 at 2:10 pm

    Vermont must not be considered Super by the Powers That Be, because we do not vote today. THis, I believe is a good thing for me, because I’m still not sure who, of this group of less than inspiring choices, I will settle for.

    One thing is certain-No matter what else happens, we can not continue to spend a Billion dollars a week (for any more time, much less another 100 years) for the biggest life taking joke in recent memory. I guess that narrows it down somewhat, but what are we left with? Not much. Maybe the money could be used to put people to work building a wall around the country and arming our border patrol to keep the loonies out-starting with our own congress.


  254. 259 lew614 February 5, 2008 at 2:19 pm

    VOR-Brandon Jones may not get an occasional start-he will platoon with Diaz. Count on it. Not only is it the way that Bobby Cox invariably works, but Jones is quite a good ballplayer. I’ve seen the kid and he more than deserves a shot. He is much better than fourth outfielder material. Take it to the bank.


  255. 260 Voice of Reason February 5, 2008 at 2:21 pm

    As much as I would like to debate the merits of taking the fight to foreign soil to keep it off our own, I’ll stick to the merits of one consistent leadoff hitter as opposed to a R/L arrangement…

    I certainly understand the reasoning behind one leadoff guy. Also, I think KJ was a solid hitter in that spot for the majority of the season. An argument could be made that he’ll only improve in his 2nd full season. My order was more for trying to keep too many hitters from the same side of the plate in a row, so as to prevent the opposing manager from making easy situational pitching changes later in the game.


  256. 261 savannahguy February 5, 2008 at 2:24 pm

    If it were my lineup, today it would be:

    1. Kelly
    2. Yunel
    3. Chipper
    4. Tex

    5. Mac
    6. Diaz
    7. Frenchy
    8. Kotsay


  257. 262 Voice of Reason February 5, 2008 at 2:27 pm

    Lew: I hope you are right about BJones. Obviously, this is all speculation seeing that spring has not even begun. The possiblilty also remains that one of those 2, or Anderson, could be traded during spring, given that BJones and Anderson are very similar players.


  258. 263 Voice of Reason February 5, 2008 at 2:28 pm

    possiblilty ? 🙄


  259. 264 paladin24 February 5, 2008 at 2:31 pm

    The Devil visited a lawyer’s office to make him a deal. The Devil said. “I’ll increase your income five-fold. Your partners will love you; your clients will respect you; you’ll have four months of vacation each year and you will live to a hundred. All I require in return is that your wife’s soul, your children’s soul, and their children’s souls will rot in hell for eternity.”

    The lawyer thought for a moment. “What’s the catch?” he asked.


  260. 265 williamwallace February 5, 2008 at 2:31 pm

    My lineup:

    1. KJ
    2. Frenchy
    3, Chipper
    4. Tex
    5. Mac
    6. Escobar
    7, Diaz/Jones
    8. Kotsay

    If we are ever going to launch Frenchy, put him in the 2 hole like what was done with Andruw in 2000, and Frenchy will explode because pitchers will actually have to pitch to him because they are afraid that KJ is already on base and Chipper, Tex, and McCann are coming up next. And I think there will not be much dropoff at all in the 6 hole with Escobar. I think YUnel hitting sixth could knock in a similar number of runs as Frenchy.

    Frenchy would hit .320 and have a SLG over .500 if he hit second behind KJ and in front of Chipper, Tex, and McCann.


  261. 266 williamwallace February 5, 2008 at 2:36 pm

    Voice of Reason, Brandon Jones and Anderson are not similar at all.

    Brandon is an all around hitter with a great eye and good power. Brandon Jones has the ability to be a decent player. Anderson will never be more than a scrubby fifth outfielder who can run. Anderson is nothing more than an outfield version of Pete Orr. Anderson is not even as good as Ryan Langerhans.

    I think in the next 3 years Brandon Jones can put up numbers similar to what KJ did last season but with 20-25 homers.


  262. 267 paladin24 February 5, 2008 at 2:40 pm

    My lineup:

    1. Kotsay
    2. Diaz/Jones
    3. Escobar
    4. Mac
    5. Tex
    6. Chipper
    7. Frenchy
    8. KJ

    I am a dyslexic copycat.


  263. 268 Voice of Reason February 5, 2008 at 2:42 pm

    A man asked a lawyer, “How much is your fee?”

    The lawyer responded, “$50 for three questions.”

    The man said, “Isn’t that a bit steep?”

    The lawyer replied, “Yes. Now what’s your third question…”


  264. 269 Voice of Reason February 5, 2008 at 2:44 pm

    BHeart: Ow! You hit me with a Pete Orr-Ryan Langerhans “1-2 punch.” That hurt…


  265. 270 Voice of Reason February 5, 2008 at 2:45 pm

    Gotta go pick up the littlest raisin. Back in 20…


  266. 271 savannahguy February 5, 2008 at 2:48 pm

    The difference between a dishonest lawyer and a mad rooster.

    The rooster clucks defiance.


  267. 272 savannahguy February 5, 2008 at 2:49 pm

    any jet fighter jokes?


  268. 273 williamwallace February 5, 2008 at 2:52 pm

    Paladin, how’s that Socratic method treating ya? That has got to be the worst method of teaching ever. You will learn more in your six weeks of BAR/BRI before the bar exam than you will ever learn in law school. That Socratic crap has got to go. The first year is the only year that is worth it. The last 2 years, they are just robbing your money and putting you into huge debt. I will be done paying those buggers off for those last two years when I am older than you. Not to mention all the debt put into credit cards the last 2 years because of beer.


  269. 274 williamwallace February 5, 2008 at 2:57 pm

    Sorry about that, VOR. I could have hit you with a Woodward reference but that wouldn’t have been truthful. Anderson is not as bad as Woodward.


  270. 275 williamwallace February 5, 2008 at 3:01 pm

    Off to go vote.


  271. 276 chrisklob February 5, 2008 at 3:19 pm

    Anderson is nothing more than an outfield version of Pete Orr. Anderson is not even as good as Ryan Langerhans.

    WOW! Those are some harsh words! You must have been frustrated trying to figure out who to vote against today!


  272. 277 paladin24 February 5, 2008 at 3:27 pm

    ww; The Socratic system is much easier to handle when the student is older that Socrates and much older than the professor. Actually, I am in a pedantic learning environment. The material can be learned using either method, but the Socratic is supposed to also teach you to “think on your feet” and handle pressure. I’ve had a little experience with that in my former life.

    SG; A good jet pilot must never run out of airspeed and ideas, simultaneously.


  273. 278 lew614 February 5, 2008 at 3:32 pm

    Braveheart-Ah Yes-The constant droning of Law Students about the cost of Law School. Yet, it is a statistical fact, that as soon as the economy goes into somewhat of a downturn, the applications for Law School increase to the point of insanity. The rude awakening when they finally realize that most of the jobs they are going to qualify for are not going to be sufficient to even pay off their significant debt is quite enlightening.

    Perhaps a bit of research prior to the application process and a bit less of chasing the greed demon, might be a good idea. After all, are not these paragons of our educational system supposed to be the intellectually elite? One must, at times wonder then, why none of them bothered to check the situation current in the industry.

    Would it surprise you to know that that very topic is continually discussed by the Law School administrators and that they actually lobby for sane lending and borrowing practices? Too bad that the banks and applicants seem to have one track minds that invariably tend towards the end result of impoverished students. Just be glad you’re not into Environmental Law, where it is extremely unlikely you will find one of those cushy high paying entry level positions.


  274. 279 paladin24 February 5, 2008 at 3:32 pm

    “..older than Socrates…” As you know, that mistake would cost me a letter grade.


  275. 280 paladin24 February 5, 2008 at 3:35 pm

    Lew; You sound as if you are an easy touch. Could I borrow a couple a hundred until pay day?


  276. 281 lew614 February 5, 2008 at 3:42 pm

    No, not an easy touch-I’m the husband of a woman who has been into Law School Admissions for thirty years at four different University Law Schools. She has been the Associate Dean Of Enrollment Management at The Vermont Law School for 7 years and is on the National Board of all the Law School and University Admissions and Financial Aid organizations, having even chaired them for a number of years. She is even on accreditation committees for LSAC. I live the process daily.


  277. 282 lew614 February 5, 2008 at 3:45 pm

    Paladin-But yes, we have fed quite a few Law Students. They are also consistently hungry. Must be those Ramen Noodle and caffeine diets they seem to gravitate towards.


  278. 283 Voice of Reason February 5, 2008 at 3:57 pm

    A lawyer was driving his big new BMW down the highway, singing to himself, “I love my BMW, I love my BMW.”

    Focusing on his car, not on his driving, he lost control and smashed into a tree. He survived, but his car was totaled. “My BMW! My BMW!” he sobbed.

    A passerby stopped and cried out, “Sir! You’re bleeding badly! And, my goodness, your left arm is gone!”

    The lawyer, horrified, screamed, “My Rolex! My Rolex!”


  279. 284 Bob, journalist February 5, 2008 at 4:06 pm

    “THE GREATEST RISK FOR TORNADOES WILL EXIST LATE THIS AFTERNOON INTO THIS EVENING ACROSS SOUTHWEST AND SOUTH CENTRAL ARKANSAS INTO NORTH CENTRAL LOUISIANA” … there may be some risk for tornadoes but it sounds like the greater risk is for the people who get in their way … stay safe hillbilly.


  280. 285 savannahguy February 5, 2008 at 4:08 pm

    After all, are not these paragons of our educational system supposed to be the intellectually elite?

    Lew, have you ever met a member of the intellectually elite that had common sense? Can’t do, teach. Can’t teach, teach teachers. Yes there are exceptions, but not many.


  281. 286 lew614 February 5, 2008 at 4:25 pm

    SG-Actually, I was referring to the Potential and Prospective Law Students. Anyone familiar with Law School Faculty realizes early on these are not teachers, but self appointed Demi Gods (certainly not to be confused with Demi Moore), whose word, they consider, should be Law in and of itself. They are quite a different breed from educators or administrators. Unlike the faculty in undergrad or graduate institutions, Law Professors think (and many times do) run the institution.


  282. 287 lew614 February 5, 2008 at 4:26 pm

    Excuse me-Think they should run the institution.


  283. 288 paladin24 February 5, 2008 at 4:33 pm

    Lew; What’s for dinner?


  284. 289 Hillbilly February 5, 2008 at 4:37 pm

    Greater risk than blogging from the hot tub? :mrgreen: Don’t worry, Esteemed Journalist Bob. I won’t be out flying kites this afternoon. I take cover in a heavy fog. No way I could ever be a storm chaser.


  285. 290 berigan2electricboogaloo February 5, 2008 at 4:43 pm

    CL, that kitten story started pretty sad, but turned out well! 🙂


  286. 291 nacly February 5, 2008 at 4:44 pm

    Cynical blog today…reality can be such a downer!


  287. 292 paladin24 February 5, 2008 at 4:48 pm

    nacly; Along with the salt, some pepper is necessary to balance the taste.


  288. 293 Voice of Reason February 5, 2008 at 4:51 pm

    …reality can be such a downer

    It is to be avoided at all costs! 😀


  289. 294 berigan2electricboogaloo February 5, 2008 at 4:51 pm

    There is something about Brandon Jone’s swing that I like, looks like a classic lefty power swing….I am not much of a purist beyond wanting wooden bats and not having any more teams than we have now in the playoff hunt, but since we have the DH in the AL, might as well have it in the NL. I know, I am a heretic, sue me! 😛 It would work very well for us, IMHO to have Matt Diaz playing everyday. If I were him, I’d ask to be traded at this point, no reason in the world for him not to play every day. Unless B. Jones hits .150 (And I sure don’t wish that on him) Matt is stuck with 300-350 AB’s this year.
    And they will both be batting 8th this year, bank on it….


  290. 295 Carolina Lady February 5, 2008 at 4:54 pm

    Salty, it’s terrible to know that no matter how you cast it, your precious vote is wasted. Downer.


  291. 296 Carolina Lady February 5, 2008 at 4:56 pm

    I sure wish Matty could play every day.


  292. 297 berigan2electricboogaloo February 5, 2008 at 4:56 pm

    CL, I ended up voting for Huckabee. 2-3 days ago, it would have been Romney. For the flat tax, and the most likable guy, IMo. He won’t win of course…..I don’t think I have ever voted personality before….


  293. 298 paladin24 February 5, 2008 at 4:57 pm

    CL; the kitten story had a great deal of potential IF kitty had been catapulted through the lawyer’s open window.


  294. 299 nacly February 5, 2008 at 4:58 pm

    CL…no, I didn’t waste my vote…I used it! 🙂

    See…positive vibes…er…pepper!


  295. 300 berigan2electricboogaloo February 5, 2008 at 4:58 pm

    CL, I wish B. Jones could play Center…..oh well, if wishes were horses, and all that! 🙂


  296. 301 berigan2electricboogaloo February 5, 2008 at 5:02 pm

    Holy Toledo, is everyone else still getting inundated with prerecorded messages from the Candidates??? Must have gotten 5-6 of them today. A few give a number, but those that are “number Blocked” those annoy me. We can call you, you can’t call us, ha, ha, ha!


  297. 302 Carolina Lady February 5, 2008 at 5:04 pm

    Between McCain, Clinton and Obama, there’s not a dime’s worth of difference. One is as bad as the other. Huckabee has some ideas that appeal to me and I like him but I think Romney is the only one who would have a real chance of beating McCain – except that Huckabee is blocking Romney at this point by drawing off needed support/votes. McCain is not a Republican, is not a conservative. His votes have been in line with those of the Dems, Clinton, et al. Soft on illegal immigration and picking up the Hispanic vote because of it. McCain and Clinton are pretty much interchangable except McCain has the benefit of not having Bill to contend with. 🙂


  298. 304 savannahguy February 5, 2008 at 5:07 pm

    CL, it’s only wasted if your guy loses. Second doesn’t count for much in politics and close isn’t good enough. It ain’t horse shoes and hand grenades, but you can be sure that those will be thrown by all politicians. Blood sport.

    I still wish that all voters had to take a basic political intelligence test. Would need just a few months of campaigning, requiring less time, causing less aggravation, running fewer ads and fewer polls. And fewer poles.


  299. 305 nacly February 5, 2008 at 5:09 pm

    Berigan: yes, the phone keeps ringing. As soon as I hear: I’m “fill in the blank”, I hang up.

    Which begs why political ‘ads’ aren’t governed by the ‘do not call list’!


  300. 306 Carolina Lady February 5, 2008 at 5:12 pm

    Guys, countdown:
    you have 8 days before Valentine’s Day!

    A public service announcement


  301. 307 paladin24 February 5, 2008 at 5:15 pm

    I see that political discussion is NOT banned on this blog. So…McCain’s original stance on immigration was in line with his Arizona constituency. He says that he has now modified it. I believe him. And, he is the only one on either side that is qualified to be C-in-C. As for Romney, he is the typical politician that “blows” with the wind. And for Hilary and Osama Obama, ’nuff said. Oh, I forgot Preacher Huckabee. I’m as afraid of radical Christians as I am of radical Muslims.


  302. 308 Carolina Lady February 5, 2008 at 5:19 pm

    We’re just bored, Paladin. 😆


  303. 309 savannahguy February 5, 2008 at 5:20 pm

    CL…right on the money but don’t be depressed. Won’t do any good. If McCain is the Republican candidate in the general election your choice is this: (1) Vote for him to avoid a Hillary or Obama Presidency, or (2) Vote for the Dem so that the Republican party isn’t completely dismantled by McNasty for a generation. Then, in four years, perhaps republicans will remember what they stand for. Oh, mercy.

    Berigan, you got all those recorded messages on your phone because they knew you were still undecided and figured you were impressionable and malleable. Just tell them you are voting for Goldwater.


  304. 310 Voice of Reason February 5, 2008 at 5:20 pm

    Are all Christians “radical Christians”?


  305. 311 Carolina Lady February 5, 2008 at 5:23 pm

    I think I’ll write in Baby Seal.


  306. 312 paladin24 February 5, 2008 at 5:23 pm

    VOR; Is your “inquiry” rhetorical?


  307. 313 Carolina Lady February 5, 2008 at 5:25 pm

    Good question, VOR! Depends on who is making the distinction! To one element in today’s society, anyone who believes in Jesus Christ, as I do, is a radical who must be silenced at any cost! 😆


  308. 314 Voice of Reason February 5, 2008 at 5:26 pm

    I am curious what Huckabee has done to earn the moniker “radical Christian”, or is that a blanket term for all Christians?


  309. 315 Carolina Lady February 5, 2008 at 5:27 pm

    Then there’s another element who is working feverishly to silence any voice that does not fit their agenda/ideas. They want only their voices/side heard. This includes print and airwaves. Freedom of speech, to them, means parroting only what they approve. Sorta like it was in Russia. And China.


  310. 316 paladin24 February 5, 2008 at 5:28 pm

    Actually, Huckabee was the preacher who launched the kitten. Right, CL?:>)


  311. 318 Voice of Reason February 5, 2008 at 5:31 pm

    I’m not trying to pick a fight, paladin, nor am I trying to specifically defend Huckabee. I just find it an interesting line of dialogue.


  312. 319 savannahguy February 5, 2008 at 5:33 pm

    Paladin, do you believe that McCain is qualified to be Commander in Chief because he’s been pushing Senate papers around for decades while his left turn signal was stuck in the on position? Because he was in the service? War hero? POW? Authored an amnesty bill with Kennedy? One of only two Repubs to vote against a tax reduction? Free speech destroyer with Feingold legislation? Because of his well known nasty temperament? Because he voted with ALL other Repubs for the surge and funding of troops? Because he’s taking credit for the surge vote? Or is it because he admitted he was weak on economic matters? Because he thought conservative Supreme Cout Justice Alito “wore his conservatism on his sleeve”? Because Ahhhnuld is backing him?

    Can’t someone who was not in the service be C in C? I’d say McCain is probably best qualified if he were running for war hero (he may have mentioned that a time or two), but not as leader of our nation. We will have very good generals and cabinet to run the war, fight terror and such.


  313. 320 paladin24 February 5, 2008 at 5:35 pm

    You guys need to lighten up on this “radical Christian” thing. I am also a Christian but I do not try to force-feed my beliefs and ideals to others and consider them “sinners” if they do not share my particular beliefs. That, IMO, is the definition of radicalism, be it Christian or Muslim. Selah.


  314. 321 berigan2electricboogaloo February 5, 2008 at 5:35 pm

    CL, you have not heard me defending McCain , but…I will vote for him, Holdin’ my nose of course! He is Pro-life, name a Dem that is these days. (Of course, I was more than willing to vote for the pro-choice Guiliani) He was right about needing a surge(I recall Hillary saying something along those lines, which cracks me up, one thing she was right about, but she can’t talk about it! 😆 )
    as well. His plan is to do more than cut, then run. No matter how you feel about us being over there, we are there now. And we cannot leave as fast as humanly possible, just to do it.

    On the Dem side, cannot stand, trust Hillary. Obama is the most liberal Senator out of 100….too bad, I really don’t mind him at all. Too bad he isn’t more like the guy he emulates, the tax cutting, commie hatin’ hawk, JFK!!!!!


  315. 322 paladin24 February 5, 2008 at 5:44 pm

    Well, here I am in the position a Marine loves. I’m surrounded so I can attack in all directions. But, time will not permit.

    SG; you make some good points and there are things about Mccain that I do not like, but I “dislike” him less than others. And about the C-in-C thing: McCain was not only a war hero; he Commanded the largest squadron in the Navy. I would be just as uncomfortable with Huckabee in the oval office as I would be with McCain in the pulpit.

    I’m not retreating, I’m making a strategic withdrawal. I’ve got work to do.


  316. 323 savannahguy February 5, 2008 at 5:45 pm

    Huckabee is not a “radical”. He was a preacher. He is a social conservative. He’s an amnesty, tax, welfare, national security and economic liberal who is currently sucking up to McCain and running for VP. All of the strategy shows that our elections can be hijacked by the timing and the process. Turns into a power grabbing chess game instead of who the people would prefer. But then, what the hell do most voters know anyway. Test them (well, there he goes again).

    VOR, no worry…Paladin doesn’t fight at the drop of a hat. Unless the hat belongs to Odd-Job and it lands on his toe. Even then, he’d probably give him the gold finger first.

    Now…no more controversy and back to baseball. Who did Clemens vote for today (kidding…just kidding).


  317. 324 Carolina Lady February 5, 2008 at 5:46 pm

    The endorsement being given to Obama by the Hollywood types and the elite of the Dem party tell me that the Dems and far-left liberals are tired of the Clinton circus and are pushing their new champion as hard as they can. If the only good thing to come of all this is the end of the Clinton’s running for anything, it will be a good thing.

    Given an Obama vs McCain contest, I think McCain will win. Too many people are distrustful of Obama, don’t like his extreme-left tilt and will vote for McCain against Obama.

    He has said and written that his mother was the greatest influence on his life. Reflect on that! I’ve read up on her and it sure ain’t a purty picture!

    IMHO 🙂


  318. 325 Carolina Lady February 5, 2008 at 5:49 pm

    😆 😆


  319. 326 savannahguy February 5, 2008 at 5:53 pm

    The Great Santini may be making a strategic withdrawal, but keep your eyes open. When he flies in and hits you with napalm you won’t even hear him coming. Loves the smell of that stuff in the morning.

    Berigan, the two reason you cited for voting your preference (McCain) are not at all different than the other R candidates, except for Rudy. If you are looking for differentiation, keep looking. If I can’t change your mind on that and you haven’t voted yet, how about doing a little baseball research before you go to the polls. How about, which players between 1900 and 2007 came up to bat more than 20 times, threw left, batted right and had curly hair.


  320. 328 Voice of Reason February 5, 2008 at 5:59 pm

    Sorry, paladin, didn’t mean to touch a nerve… I suppose that I would like to consider myself a radical Christian if it means sharing my faith with others. Most self proclaimed Christians do not try to “force-feed” anything to anyone. In fact, most are too afraid to say anything, usually out of fear of being labeled as some “Jesus freak” or something. It’s the maniacs who garner the attention and make a bad name for the rest of us.

    I don’t consider anyone a sinner if they don’t share my belief. I consider myself a sinner who is redeemed by Christ. I also don’t hold it against anyone if they are not receptive to what I believe. Just don’t hold it against me if I pray for you. One of my best friends is a non-Christian, but we co-exist quite easily.

    Just for background information, I play in Christian rock band (Rock of Christ Band… google it…) and find myself often the target of “Christians” who judge what I do as wrong. So, I understand what some so-called Christians can portray. We’re not all like that, though.

    No disrespect intended to anyone…


  321. 329 chrisklob February 5, 2008 at 6:16 pm

    Whew, with all this political and religious talk I think I might go away and come back later!


  322. 330 Voice of Reason February 5, 2008 at 6:18 pm

    Don’t go chris… I’m done…


  323. 331 mrgil February 5, 2008 at 6:19 pm

    Okay, Cardinal sins being displayed here…. Discussion of politics and religion and batting the pitcher eight….


  324. 332 Voice of Reason February 5, 2008 at 6:20 pm

    Go Braves? 🙂


  325. 333 mrgil February 5, 2008 at 6:21 pm

    Anyone else notice that LaRussa does that a lot? Put the pitcher in the eight hole? Anyone know why? Is there some sort of mid game strategy in doing that?


  326. 334 chrisklob February 5, 2008 at 6:21 pm



  327. 335 jerseygil February 5, 2008 at 6:22 pm

    Just to say hello everyone..i just came from my civil duty,,VOTE…
    I taken my lady to Dinner tonight is her Birthday….Happy birthday My love…Doesn’t matter you are a phillis fan i still love you.

    See Ya…guys….


  328. 336 Voice of Reason February 5, 2008 at 6:23 pm

    Happy Birthday Mrs. Jerseygil!!!


  329. 337 chrisklob February 5, 2008 at 6:24 pm

    Happy Birthday Mrs. JerseyGil! (Mine was yesterday)


  330. 338 journalist jimmy smith February 5, 2008 at 6:28 pm

    oh, the humanity! what is happening here?

    how ’bout them braves?

    and now baseball talk from a baseball journalist . . . roger clemens says roger clemens told the committee that roger clemens did not use steroids. big deal.

    closed doors. secret session. cop out. and why congress, why not baseball? why not the n.y. yankees? get some money back (didn’t work for arthur blank, did it?).


  331. 339 Voice of Reason February 5, 2008 at 6:28 pm

    Happy belated birthday, Klobber…

    BTW – My soapbox has been put away into the attic…


  332. 340 savannahguy February 5, 2008 at 6:30 pm

    (Scribe-like transition) borrowed from somewhere:

    The difference between politics and baseball is that in baseball, when
    you’re caught stealing, you’re out….


  333. 341 chrisklob February 5, 2008 at 6:32 pm

    Thanks VOR!

    Please understand that I was not complaining about the subjects of politics and religion being discussed here. I’ve just been around long enough to know that when you get a group as diverse as this talking about subjects as polarizing as those two, there’s bound to be issues. I just don’t want to be around for the blood letting, that’s all. 🙂

    My daughter has a choral performance this evening. Be back later.


  334. 342 jerseygil February 5, 2008 at 6:33 pm

    Carolina Lady….The only Baseball News today is about the Caribbean Series…The Dominican Republic have two team because this year wasn’t baseball in my native Puerto rico…The “Licey ” are 3-0 . And Odalis Perez Sign with the Phillis.

    Have to go…going to dinner….see ya guys…thanks…Gracias…for my wife birthday…..Her Name Is Lilly.


  335. 343 Voice of Reason February 5, 2008 at 6:39 pm

    Jersylil? 😉


  336. 344 journalist jimmy smith February 5, 2008 at 6:39 pm

    Raisins: “Just for background information, I play in Christian rock band (Rock of Christ Band… google it…)”

    oh, the humanity!! calabash seafood restaurant!! 😆 😆 😆


  337. 345 Voice of Reason February 5, 2008 at 6:41 pm

    It’s all good, Klobber. I hope it’s all good with paladin… didn’t mean to offend anyone… just kinda got on a roll…


  338. 346 nacly February 5, 2008 at 6:43 pm

    VOR…because I’m ‘and idiot’, I’m following on your radical comment. To your question, no, I don’t think all are radical…just a convenient cop-out. Two, your question followed a description of Huckabee. I mention this only because as the primaries unfurled, no mention of Huckabee’s ‘pulpit’ past was made. It wasn’t until he did so well in Iowa that it became an issue…media-driven as expected. That, to me, detracted from his accomplishment/message, and was unjust.


  339. 347 Voice of Reason February 5, 2008 at 6:43 pm

    OK, wife’s callin’ me to dinner. (not calabash shrimp, but it is seafood – tilapia…)

    Later, all…


  340. 348 nacly February 5, 2008 at 6:44 pm

    Klobber…belated best on your birthday!

    JGil…happy birthday to ‘JerseyLil’ (good one, VOR!)


  341. 349 savannahguy February 5, 2008 at 6:46 pm

    Happy Birthday to Klobber and Mrs. Jersey! Flbravesgirl should send cakes to birthday bloggers. New blog tradition?

    Klobber, is the Saloon open yet or do we have to wait until the polls close?

    Now…baseball. Uh…Santana? No, please. Clemens? Have mercy. Aybar? Too sad. Tex signing in 08? Too speculative. Kotsay? What’s left to say? McCan defense, Frenchy patience, Chipper foot health, Hampton hammies, Glavine addition, Kelly going to his right, Yunel cockiness, Diaz get a chance, Smoltz stamina, Huddy repeat, Wren effectiveness, Braves budget, Bench coach gravitas (first time used on on B&S?), batting order, what?

    Got it…promotional idea for Braves. Kleenex in dugout.


  342. 350 morpheus45 February 5, 2008 at 6:48 pm

    Howdy, all! Funny, the superbowl made me broke but my continued eating of my chili this week is making me mighty popular with the ladies…maybe money isn’t everything after all. 🙂 Unfortunately, I’m getting tired of having to wear loose pants all the time. Any ideas, Jimmy?


  343. 351 lew614 February 5, 2008 at 6:49 pm

    Huckabee is OK, but stands a snowball’s chance of staying frozen during the Peachtree Road race in July. Romney looks Presidential, but I would be very concerned what his point of view on anything will be from day to day. Talk about a Waffle Supreme. Huddle House should name theirs after him. No more Republicans. We can’t afford another Republican administration. It will take more than four years to reverse the damage W has done to this country-politically and economically. Too bad there isn’t much worthwhile in the way of Democrats running, either and hopefully Ralph Nader will stay lost. Where’s Ole Ross Perot when we need him. He was right about the Giant Sucking Sound-in many ways..


  344. 352 nacly February 5, 2008 at 6:49 pm

    Grinch…chili can be made without beans! 🙂


  345. 353 Bob, journalist February 5, 2008 at 6:51 pm

    My habits are too well known … though nobody would recognize me disguised as a nun … I never get in the tub when it’s stormin’ … not with water in it … or talk on the telephone … some old habits are hard to break.

    DH in the NL … and just when I was gettin’ like that boy too … I know your not and idiot so I’m going to assume that your just funnin about the DH … “since we have it in the AL, might as well have it in the NL” … and I guess since some folks cheat we might as well let everybody. The better rule would be that balls hit out on the fly are dead ball outs … it would totally change the game … the hitters would become more proficient and the game would be far more exciting.

    The next thing would be to stop all this salary madness … pay these boys same as high school teachers … where they gonna go? … what they gonna do? Farm? … sell encyclopedias? … work on cars? … bag groceries? go huntin’? Maybe they could become beet righters or lawyers.

    I agree that they should be able to get all they can get … but that should be a little not a lot … oh the mentality … “Yes son, I want you to grow up to be something special … make your mark (x) … contribute something lasting to society and to mankind … play ball”.

    Maybe if the teams were all owned by the cities in which they reside … with media revenues distributed evenly … and residents deciding how the revenues would be spent …


  346. 354 morpheus45 February 5, 2008 at 6:54 pm

    Salty, I was referring to the Ugandan citropsis route; there were in fact very few beans.


  347. 355 nacly February 5, 2008 at 6:57 pm

    Oh, yes…the root…forgot about that! Well, now we know, don’t we!?!


  348. 356 savannahguy February 5, 2008 at 6:58 pm

    Lew, Ross Perot was too worried about outer space aliens to care about illegal immigration. Nice charts though.

    Oops…there I go again.


  349. 357 savannahguy February 5, 2008 at 7:01 pm

    VOR, very nice web site. Love to catch a gig sometime.


  350. 358 savannahguy February 5, 2008 at 7:05 pm

    Route of the, uh…condition has been established. Chili shower for the Grinch.


  351. 359 williamwallace February 5, 2008 at 7:07 pm

    What is this silly concern over who is the conservative and who is the liberal? Why would anyone want to be considered a member of either lunatic fringe element of the political equation?

    Most people are centrists like every single remaining candidate. McCain, Romney, Obama, Huckabee, and Clinton are all centrists who lean slighlty to one side or the other and pay lip service to the concerns of the lunatic fringe element that is the ‘conservative’ and the ‘liberal’. They pay lip service to the lunatic conservative or the lunatic liberal because those are the wackos most likely to vote and fund your campaign and spread the word and you have to trick them into getting your back.

    The majority of Americans are too smart to let themselves drift into either lunatic fringe element and just want someone with some darn common sense. But we will continue to hear these silly boys and girls fight over who is the most conservative moron or the most liberal moron, who is the most like Reagan or Kennedy even though neither Kennedy nor Reagan were like Kennedy and Reagan. We will praise the one who is best at pretending to be a member of the lunatic fringe element they and most Americans don’t really want to belong to. The more enlightened of us in the middle will chuckle at the games that are played with the lunatic fringe conservative and liberal. We will not vote for the one who we believe leans out too far in either direction. The White House is not a place for simple minded idealists, whether they be a conservative or a liberal.

    As the last 8 years have taught us , what you have to concern yourself with is the nut who pretends to be a centrist. When W said he was a compassionate conservative, we should have all run scared. When everyone else tries real hard to pretend they are at the extremes of the political equation to trick the lunatic fringe, W was pretending to be in the middle. Frightening. We all should have known right then he was such a lunatic that even the lunatics didn’t need to be fooled by him. The lunatics told him stop preaching to the choir, go fool the unsuspecting idiots in the middle.


  352. 360 morpheus45 February 5, 2008 at 7:13 pm

    A chili shower (especially with the right ingredients and a proper contingent of scantily-or-un-clad young ladies) might very well be in order. Alas, I have to head over to a friends house and help him either exalt in city council victory or bouy his spirits in defeat…either will require alcohol consumption. I prefer to stick with local politics, where human freakin’ beings actually run for office (instead of robots, reptiles, warmongers, mormons and puppets) and I feel my vote actually counts. Later, all. And happy b-day, Klobber.


  353. 361 mrgil February 5, 2008 at 7:26 pm

    🙂 Good one braveheart…..


  354. 362 mrgil February 5, 2008 at 7:32 pm

    Want to get really down, dirty and nasty…. try Union politics… Is a Texas cage match. Includes everything that one considers wrong in elections. Lying, mud slinging, extortion, blackmail… yep… just like the big boys but really up close and personal…

    Now baseball….. Richmond Braves still moving… 😦


  355. 363 journalist jimmy smith February 5, 2008 at 7:52 pm

    uh, grinch, one more thing about that citropsis root . . . a little precaution would be in order at this time. another side effect but this one not so pleasant. should have discussed this with jimmy smith before using citropsis. didn’t use the whole thing, right? enough citropsis there for several months. call jimmy smith and let jimmy smith know grinch is alright. and now, carolina lady . . . jimmy smith voted earlier but this journalist will not reveal the name of the candidate for whom this journalist cast this journalist’s vote. braves and stuff must remain apolitical and jimmy smith can only say this . . . if james is gone then glavine replaces james and what is gained for the next starter’s position? better hope jair and jo jo are jumpin’

    now, country music – not usually discussed on this blog but familiar to all long-time bloggers.

    new bobby cox favorite: if my nose was running money, i’d blow it all on you. but, it’ snot.

    booger of a problem. can say booger, carolina lady? booger. booger. booger. bobby. booger.


  356. 364 berigan2electricboogaloo February 5, 2008 at 8:07 pm

    The mighty Grinch said…

    Howdy, all! Funny, the superbowl made me broke but my continued eating of my chili this week is making me mighty popular with the ladies…maybe money isn’t everything after all. 🙂 Unfortunately, I’m getting tired of having to wear loose pants all the time. Any ideas, Jimmy?

    Chili is making you popular with the ladies, eh??? Must be eating it outside on the porch or somethin….
    Why wear loose pants???? You got underwear, don’t ya?


  357. 365 berigan2electricboogaloo February 5, 2008 at 8:08 pm

    Fox showing Huckabee winning Alabama, and early on, has a slight lead in Georgia! 😯


  358. 366 savannahguy February 5, 2008 at 8:13 pm

    Well WW…may seem silly to some but Super Tuesday and caring about who leads the Country has a lot more relevance than any Super Bowl or World Series. Not as much fun to watch to be sure, but more important. To some anyway.

    There are such vast differences between conservatives and liberals. Basically, if one believes the government can and should make all decisions for us because we are too stupid or lazy to make laws and run our states and spend our own money however we want and on whatever we want, vote Dem. If you believe that we all have the right and responsibility to manage our own lives and keep the money that we work our butts off for, vote Repub.

    If one believes we should be free to kill unborn children but not attack, kill or even incarcerate or a known terrorist, vote Dem. If one wants to ignore terror hotspots throughout the world while they grow, plan and plot great harm against us, vote Dem. If one wants to allow gay marriage and perpetuate the welfare state, vote Dem. And on and on. It’s not just about political party…it’s about values. It’s about socialism or capitalism. The differences are clear.

    While we may have totally different viewpoints (as most do on this blog and everywhere else), we can surely agree that the less politicos actually do in Washington the better off we generally are.

    Enough about that. Sorry I’ve gotten so political today. In the grand scheme of things, it’s just a passionate vent. Some of my oldest, dearest friends are liberal. Other than an occasional elbow, we get along just fine.

    That’s all.


  359. 367 berigan2electricboogaloo February 5, 2008 at 8:15 pm

    Uh-oh SG, you done it now! 😉


  360. 368 berigan2electricboogaloo February 5, 2008 at 8:25 pm

    SG, I agree with much of what you say, but not all. What happened to the cost conscious Republicans of yore??? No one even tries to cut waste anymore. That Republican senator from Alaska? You know, the guy that spent millions for a bridge to no where, to be used by no one??? GRRRR!!!

    And I think some old style Dems don’t realize how very far left the party moved on them. I have several friends that hate Bush, the war in Iraq….but, get them on the subject on Illegals, and all of the sudden, we agree!!! Not saying folks like Hillary and Obama care, but my Democratic friends do. Talk about crime in general. Funny, they are incensed about judges giving child molesters a 2 year sentence as well. I would bet we would find a fair bit of common ground with Lew.
    Which is why I wish, to some extent at least, the two parties could put partisan politics aside, and do what was best for the country….but , that ain’t gonna happen, is it????


  361. 369 journalist jimmy smith February 5, 2008 at 8:56 pm

    jimmy smith has just learned of a most useful invention. it is reduction sauce. pour reduction sauce on a steak and baked potato and lose weight. that’s right, lose weight with reduction sauce. more on this later.

    now, jimmy smith’s candidate is losing. so, journalist is now sad and is becoming grumpy. all political talk must be abandoned by jimmy smith for baseball and for pie talk.

    now, talking pie . . .

    and whither journalist bob tonight?


  362. 370 berigan2electricboogaloo February 5, 2008 at 8:58 pm

    Don’t worry JJS, Ron Paul still has lots of money….



  363. 371 Voice of Reason February 5, 2008 at 9:04 pm

    I’m going to the egrocery store… anybody need anything? 😀


  364. 372 Bob, journalist February 5, 2008 at 9:05 pm

    when you get a group as diverse as this talking about subjects as polarizing as those two, there’s bound to be issues” … probably will but ain’t bound to be … not if we maintain the intended spirit of this Blog … regardless of our beliefs, be they political or religious.

    Most everybody knows that Polonius said “Cogito, ergo sum” … well, something close … to thine own self be true. If I may pollute both Willie and René … if you are not striving to be that which you think and/or believe you should … then you’re not thinking … and if you aren’t thinking you are not.

    Christianity means different things to different folks but if all those claiming to be Christians truly believed in the teachings of Jesus of Nazareth as we know them and strove above all else to follow those teachings … it would be a far different world.

    Forgetting religion, if you are not striving to be that which you think and/or believe you should … give it a try.

    The last time I looked the federal and all 50 state constitutions still paid homage to God … don’t see why we can’t as well … and while separation of Church and State considerations are important, I think there’s everything right and nothing wrong with actively supporting those with fundamental values in which you believe and actively rejecting those without those values. When voting for someone who is going to be faced with making hard decisions … methinks it would be nice to know that their basic value system at least included a nodding acquaintance with honor, integrity, and God.

    I hope you voted if you were wise and voted for Jimmy Smith … the intelligent ticket … otherwise, I hope you didn’t … we need a light turnout!


  365. 373 Voice of Reason February 5, 2008 at 9:05 pm

    Edit: I’m going to the grocery store… anybody need anything? 😀


  366. 374 Bob, journalist February 5, 2008 at 9:10 pm

    Jimmy, I was busy out trying to round up votes … don’t laugh, it’s more difficult when you have to find people who can read and write.


  367. 375 Bob, journalist February 5, 2008 at 9:12 pm

    Nothing wrong with egroceries … I use them on occasion … the freight is a killer!


  368. 376 Bob, journalist February 5, 2008 at 9:12 pm

    God’s bowling again … later!


  369. 377 Carolina Lady February 5, 2008 at 9:14 pm

    Now you just gotta love this:

    “A child was told to write a book report on the entire Bible:

    In the beginning, which occurred near the start, there was nothing but God, darkness, and some gas. The Bible says, The Lord thy God is one, but I think He must be a lot older than that.Anyway, God said, ‘Give me a light!’ and someone did.Then God made the world. He split the Adam and made Eve. Adam and Eve were naked, but they weren’t embarrassed because mirrors hadn’t been invented yet. Adam and Eve disobeyed God by eating one bad apple, so they were driven from the Garden of Eden. Not sure what they were driven in though, because they didn’t have cars.

    Adam and Eve had a son, Cain, who hated his brother as long as he was Abel. Pretty soon all of the early people died off, except for Methuselah, who lived to be like a million or something.

    One of the next important people was Noah, who was a good guy, but one of his kids was kind of a Ham. Noah built a large boat and put his family and some animals on it. He asked some other people to join him, but they said they would have to take a rain check.

    After Noah came Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob. Jacob was more famous than his brother, Esau, because Esau sold Jacob his birthmark in exchange for some pot roast. Jacob had a son named Joseph who wore a really loud sports coat.

    Another important Bible guy is Moses, whose real name was Charlton Heston. Moses led the Israel Lights out of Egypt and awa y from the evil Pharaoh after God sent ten plagues on Pharaoh’s people. These plagues included frogs, mice, lice, bowels, and no cable. God fed the Israel Lights every day with manicotti.

    Then he gave them His Top Ten Commandments. These include don’t lie, cheat, smoke, dance, or covet your neighbor’s stuff. Oh, yeah, I just thought of one more: Humor thy father and thy mother.

    One of Moses’ best helpers was Joshua who was the first Bible guy to use spies. Joshua fought the battle of Geritol and the fence fell over on the town.

    After Joshua came David. He got to be king by killing a giant with a slingshot. He had a son named Solomon who had about 300 wives and 500 porcupines. My teacher says he was wise, but that doesn’t sound very wise to me.

    After Solomon there were a bunch of major league prophets. One of these was Jonah, who was swallowed by a big whale and then barfed upon the shore. There were also some m inor league prophets, but I guess we don’t have to worry about them.

    After the Old Testament came the New Testament. Jesus is the star of the New Testament. He was born in Bethlehem in a barn. (I wish I had been born in a barn, too, because my mom is always saying to me, ‘Close the door! Were you born in a barn?’ ) It would be nice to say, ‘As a matter of fact, I was.’

    During His life, Jesus had many arguments with sinners like the Pharisees and the Republicans. Jesus also had twelve opossums. The worst one was Judas Asparagus. Judas was so evil that they named a terrible vegetable after him.

    Jesus was a great man. He healed many leopards and even preached to some Germans on the Mount. But the Republicans and all those guys put Jesus on trial before Pontius the Pilot. Pilot didn’t stick up for Jesus. He just washed his hands instead.

    Any way’s, Jesus died for our sins, then came back to life again. He went up to Heaven but will be back at the end of the Aluminum. His return is foretold in the book of Revolution.”


  370. 378 journalist jimmy smith February 5, 2008 at 9:16 pm

    journalist jimmy smith thanks journalist bob for journalist bob’s support. jimmy smith misses bob dole, the third person candidate. always liked bob dole – bob dole had a way with bob dole’s words. and this journalist would now like to declare winners: the braves and stuff blog and carolina lady.

    and now, raisins . . . if raisins stops by the bakery . . .


  371. 379 savannahguy February 5, 2008 at 9:17 pm

    Berigan, me and cuz WW have absolutely no problems and have a great deal of respect for each other, even if we have completely differing opinions on politics. I’m just sittin’ here at Klobbers Saloon, drinkin’ politico wine with friends that drop in wanting to talk about the stuff. Trouble is, just when one leaves and we’ve said our piece and toasted each other, another denizen pal walks in and pours me another. They leave and here comes another. I’m getting tipsy on politco wine.

    I wish, to some extent at least, the two parties could put partisan politics aside, and do what was best for the country….but , that ain’t gonna happen, is it????

    Berigan, now close the blinds and sit down. It is the international system of currency which determines the vitality of life on this planet. THAT is the natural order of things today. THAT is the atomic and subatomic and galactic structure of things today. And YOU have meddled with the primal forces of nature. And YOU WILL ATONE. Am I getting through to you, Mr. Berigan? You get up on your little 21-inch screen and howl about America, and democracy. There is no America; there is no democracy. There is only IBM, and ITT, and AT&T, and DuPont, Dow, Union Carbide, and Exxon. Those are the nations of the world today.

    You have meddled with the primal forces of nature, Mr. Berigan, and I won’t have it. Is that clear? You think you’ve merely stopped a business deal? That is not the case. The Arabs have taken billions of dollars out of this country, and now they must put it back. It is ebb and flow, tidal gravity. It is ecological balance. You are a man who thinks in terms of nations and peoples. There are no nations; there are no peoples. There are no Russians. There are no Arabs. There are no third worlds. There is no West. There is only one holistic system of systems; one vast, interwoven, interacting, multivaried, multinational dominion of dollars.

    The world is a business, Mr. Berigan; it has been since man crawled out of the slime. Our children will live, Mr. Berigan, to see that perfect world in which there’s no war or famine, oppression or brutality – one vast and ecumenical holding company, for whom all men will work to serve a common profit, in which all men will hold a share of stock – all necessities provided, all anxieties tranquilized, all boredom amused. And I have chosen you, Mr. Berigan, to preach this evangel.

    You ask, Why me?

    Because you’re on a blog, dummy. Sixty million people read you every night of the week, Monday through Sunday.

    You’ve got to say, ‘I’m a HUMAN BEING, Dammit! My life has VALUE!’ So I want you to get up now. I want all of you to get up out of your chair. I want you to get up right now and go to the window. Open it, and stick your head out, and yell, “I’M AS MAD AS HELL, AND I’M NOT GOING TO TAKE THIS ANYMORE!” Things have got to change. But first, you’ve gotta get mad! You’ve got to say, ‘I’m as mad as hell, and I’m not going to take this anymore!’ Then we’ll figure out what to do about the depression and the inflation and the oil crisis. But first get up out of your chair, open the window, stick your head out, and yell…

    Oh, and do your best Peter Finch voice while screaming out the window.

    (do I need to give film credits for the dialogue?)


  372. 380 savannahguy February 5, 2008 at 9:22 pm

    CL, that was hilarious! Out of the mouths of babes. I’m keeping that one. Classic.


  373. 381 chrisklob February 5, 2008 at 9:32 pm

    Damn, I need to either buy SG a double or I gotta cut him off! Which one is it?


  374. 382 Carolina Lady February 5, 2008 at 9:33 pm

    Chris, he can still type so he must be all right…..


  375. 383 nacly February 5, 2008 at 9:42 pm

    Chris…I don’t think it’s the drink…methinks something’s been slipped into SG’s drink! Funny, though! Random thought with a purpose…that’s talent!!! :mrgreen:


  376. 384 flbravesgirl February 5, 2008 at 9:43 pm

    Happy belated birthday, Chris! Same as my dad’s. Now I really owe you a cake.


  377. 385 chrisklob February 5, 2008 at 9:43 pm

    CL, I’m sure he has spell check. That’s the only way I can minimize my mispeligns.


  378. 387 chrisklob February 5, 2008 at 9:48 pm

    Thanks fbg. I’ll send you my snail mail address so you can ship it to me. NO UPS THIS TIME! 🙂


  379. 388 savannahguy February 5, 2008 at 9:50 pm

    Klobber quit talkin’ to me. Raisins went to the store…egrocery store. Order online? Ran Paladin off before he even got settled in good. Maybe I have had too many glasses of politico wine…too many hours of election returns. My guy is getting stomped. Too many single-issue voters. Oh, the singularity!

    Must now relax and appreciate how it feels to be a political minority.

    And now…country music is fine on this blog too. Won’t make us loosers. And other music too. Maybe put a quarter in the jukebox.

    “I got tears in my ears

    from lyin’ on my back

    cryin’ over youuuuu…”


  380. 389 nacly February 5, 2008 at 9:51 pm

    On second thought, Klobber…I’ll take what SG’s drinking…make it a double!


  381. 390 journalist jimmy smith February 5, 2008 at 9:58 pm

    root beer. not citropsis root beer. just root beer.

    maybe root beer float.


  382. 391 savannahguy February 5, 2008 at 10:00 pm

    methinks something’s been slipped into SG’s drink!

    Why yes…a very bitter drink indeed. Super Duper Tuesday tastes like the bottom of the eighth, 5th game of the 7 game series, away from home, Braves are down 3-1 in the series and 8-3 in the game with a stupid-good closer coming up in the 9th. Yes. Bitter drink.

    But prayer and humor will get me through…and friends. I’ll get by with a little help from my friends.


  383. 393 savannahguy February 5, 2008 at 10:07 pm

    Root beer float, yes. Hold the float…add a little something to spice it up. Second thought, hold the root beer too. Hold the citropsis root too. Don’t want chili showers. Just spice. On the rocks if you would, sir. Thanks.


  384. 394 flbravesgirl February 5, 2008 at 10:09 pm

    CL, I’m sure the wives of all the married gentlemen on here appreciate you giving a Val-day reminder. Guys, do not wait ’til the night of the 13th. Start shopping now. Flowers, chocolate, maybe something sparkly. And don’t forget dinner reservations.


  385. 395 berigan2electricboogaloo February 5, 2008 at 10:10 pm

    SG by any chance, did you see Network on TCM a few nights ago??? 😆


  386. 396 berigan2electricboogaloo February 5, 2008 at 10:10 pm

    Chris, is it your birthday??? Why didn’t someone, anyone mention it here?????


  387. 397 berigan2electricboogaloo February 5, 2008 at 10:12 pm

    And those of us with no valentine appreciate it being mentioned as well. I had forgotten about it coming up! 😦


  388. 398 savannahguy February 5, 2008 at 10:14 pm

    Berigan, no but it’s an old favorite.

    FBG, my birthday is, uh…tomorrow. No, it was yesterday. I mean last week. Cake?


  389. 399 chrisklob February 5, 2008 at 10:15 pm

    berigan, it was yesterday. National Bourbon Day!


  390. 400 flbravesgirl February 5, 2008 at 10:15 pm

    That’s me, too, Berigan. That was strictly a public service message, since I’m single & won’t be getting a darned thing. I just don’t want any of my friends banished to the couch.


  391. 401 flbravesgirl February 5, 2008 at 10:17 pm

    Nice try, SG. 😆


  392. 402 Carolina Lady February 5, 2008 at 10:18 pm

    Berigan, you mean you weren’t going to get me a valentine?????


  393. 403 Carolina Lady February 5, 2008 at 10:18 pm

    Nor for FBG????

    What is this world coming to???


  394. 404 Carolina Lady February 5, 2008 at 10:20 pm

    Something just dawned on me :
    National Bourbon Day one day
    Super Tuesday the next
    Needs to be an investigation.


  395. 405 berigan2electricboogaloo February 5, 2008 at 10:21 pm

    CL, if you gave the cold shoulder to the mightly Grinch, what chance have I? I guess we could share you though! 😛


  396. 406 berigan2electricboogaloo February 5, 2008 at 10:21 pm

    If would dane to be seen with us in public…


  397. 408 chrisklob February 5, 2008 at 10:26 pm

    Something just dawned on me :
    National Bourbon Day one day
    Super Tuesday the next
    Needs to be an investigation.

    Rats, they’re on to our cunning scheme.


  398. 409 berigan2electricboogaloo February 5, 2008 at 10:28 pm

    CL, more mistakes than mightly if you look at those last 2 posts! 😳


  399. 410 Carolina Lady February 5, 2008 at 10:28 pm

    Ah, yes. Now it all makes sense! The elections, that is….. 😆

    Bedtime for Bonzo here. Y’all have fun!


  400. 411 Carolina Lady February 5, 2008 at 10:30 pm

    Berigan, I’m so tired, I can barely see straight! Would never have noticed! 😆 ‘Night, everybody!


  401. 412 Bob, journalist February 5, 2008 at 10:32 pm

    A child was told to write a book report on the entire Bible” … I saw it on the Internet … it’s delightful … hopefully the talented child, if under age 80, receives due credit and a scholarship!


  402. 413 flbravesgirl February 5, 2008 at 10:32 pm

    Night, CL!

    psst… Berigan, it’s “deign”. But we got the idea anyway.


  403. 414 mrgil February 5, 2008 at 10:33 pm

    SG… Fortunately, you are among friends so being a conservative is okay. So is being a liberal, it’s all good. What is not okay is to be apathetic. When too many don’t really care, you end up with what we got…..

    It would be nice if the lunatic fringe would just shut up long enough for people too use their brains long enough to look beyond the sound bites. Of course, people will vote their wallets or what they think will benefit them but alas, more government will mean less money for everyone.

    What it really comes down to is there is enough money, it just depends on what you want to spend it on.

    SG… Spot on that observation of Globalization… I saw it coming long before it was an issue. People were promised low prices, what they didn’t see coming was they would have no jobs and therefore no matter what the price, they could not afford it.

    Baseball, Big Bird predicts major league pitchers in Richmond this year… Oh boy, can’t wait to see Charlie Sheen… 🙂


  404. 415 chrisklob February 5, 2008 at 10:35 pm

    Another milestone has just been attained — 16000 hits! Congratulations CL!


  405. 416 berigan2electricboogaloo February 5, 2008 at 10:36 pm

    FLB, next thing you will say is that I don’t own a great deign either!!! I am trying to watch Super Tuesday coverage, blog on the littlegreenfootballs.com site(and just try to keep up when you see about 600 posts in less than 2 hours!)

    Plus, I dount speel gud


  406. 417 flbravesgirl February 5, 2008 at 10:39 pm

    I was just trying to help.


  407. 418 mrgil February 5, 2008 at 10:39 pm

    A neighbor came by today to recommend a new seafood restaurant. Said it was better than the Calabash. Yes, we have our own Calabash restaurant right here in Mechanicsville. We may not have baseball next year but we can eat… 🙂 Nothing better than a Maryland crab cake even in Virginia. Maybe on par with Bar-B-Que… 🙂


  408. 419 berigan2electricboogaloo February 5, 2008 at 10:40 pm

    and, my Dad is talking to a friend on the phone, about 3 feet from me…I am amazed I can even type semi-coherent sentences.


  409. 420 Bob, journalist February 5, 2008 at 10:41 pm

    Sir Guy … why the Peter Finch crediting? If folks don’t recognize it before they get there … they won’t know who he was anyway!


  410. 421 berigan2electricboogaloo February 5, 2008 at 10:42 pm

    FBG, I am more than fine with being corrected….I typed it, and thought something didn’t look right, but Mozillas spell check didn’t underline the word, so what could possibly be wrong???? 😉


  411. 422 Hillbilly February 5, 2008 at 10:43 pm

    Anybody who can get phone contact with Journalist Bob or Matthew might want to check on them. North Arkansas and Tennessee just got smoked by a huge line of tornados and T-storms. We got lots of wind and hail down south, but the northern part of the state took a direct hit. Several have lost lives.


  412. 423 mrgil February 5, 2008 at 10:44 pm

    More politics…. Of all the folks running, there is only one I could not vote for. The sad thing is when those goons behind the scene start pulling strings. We all lose…. Follow the money….


  413. 424 Hillbilly February 5, 2008 at 10:44 pm

    Well there you are Bob. Good to see your name on the screen.


  414. 425 berigan2electricboogaloo February 5, 2008 at 10:50 pm

    Hillbilly, no mention of the weather since it’s Super Tuesday. Well, think I heard mention of it on the radio news….glad you are safe!


  415. 426 Hillbilly February 5, 2008 at 10:53 pm

    Berigan, The northern part of this state is a catastrophe. Anybody in the path of this squall line better heed the warnings and take cover. It ain’t pretty.


  416. 427 flbravesgirl February 5, 2008 at 10:56 pm

    Glad you’re OK, Hillbilly. Very sorry to hear about the losses north of you.


  417. 428 savannahguy February 5, 2008 at 10:59 pm

    Esteemed Bob, Journalist, good to see you here. Tornados and all. Was beginning to worry a bit. Hope you and Carol didn’t have to get in the hot tub together. Well, take that back…not in the tub together due to threat of storms.

    On Peter Finch and Network (one of my favorite actors and movies), credit must be given where credit is due…ya neva know who might be lookin’ in and not movie savvy.

    Esteemed Gil, you have the crabs. Wait, that came out wrong. Let me be more to the point. Maryland crabs are the best. NC has the BBQ. We have the oysters.


  418. 429 savannahguy February 5, 2008 at 11:01 pm

    Hillbilly…glad you and yours are safe. Tornados on Jan. 5th. Strange.


  419. 430 flbravesgirl February 5, 2008 at 11:03 pm

    Why did that post twice? I only hit the button once. Weird.


  420. 431 berigan2electricboogaloo February 5, 2008 at 11:06 pm

    Just flipped away from Fox for a minute, and put on the weather channel. Storms/tornados were so strong it damaged a mall in Memphis! They have another squall line there. Nashville was hit by a massive cell, and the weather Channel guy expects there to be some bad damage. And 3 more dead in Kentucky from this storm! 😦


  421. 432 chrisklob February 5, 2008 at 11:19 pm

    Wow, my local news is reporting 9 dead so far in Arkansas and Tennessee!


  422. 433 flbravesgirl February 5, 2008 at 11:20 pm



  423. 434 Bob, journalist February 5, 2008 at 11:31 pm

    Chris, change that to 11 … more yet to come


  424. 435 Bob, journalist February 5, 2008 at 11:38 pm

    The sky was like a fire works show north of us 20 minutes ago … too far away to hear thunder … 2 inch hail I’m told … looks like Kentucky is now getting it as I type … next round due here in about 2 hours 12:35 estimated arrival here … storm moving at about 55 mph.


  425. 436 chrisklob February 5, 2008 at 11:39 pm

    Bob, that’s awful. I hope that y’all are all safe.


  426. 437 flbravesgirl February 5, 2008 at 11:40 pm

    Be safe, Sir Bob.


  427. 438 Bob, journalist February 5, 2008 at 11:40 pm

    No details but an airplane is reported down somewhere in the area … where is Chopper?


  428. 439 Bob, journalist February 5, 2008 at 11:48 pm

    More active Tornado warnings are being reported but one is west of us and it appears the worst cell is now in KY.

    A gas pumping station exploded … flames shot 400 feet …. the last of the storms appears to be going through Memphis at the moment … so we’ll be up all night … methinks.

    Thanks! We’re going to try …


  429. 440 flbravesgirl February 5, 2008 at 11:54 pm

    “A gas pumping station exploded … flames shot 400 feet” 😯 I really really hope it was closed for the night & no one was nearby.


  430. 441 Bob, journalist February 5, 2008 at 11:58 pm

    5 different tornadoes currently reported active in this part of TN … not where we are … I’m seeing pictures on TV of palm sized hail and we currently are expecting wind gusts approaching 100 even if the tornadoes miss us.

    Take care …


  431. 442 chrisklob February 6, 2008 at 12:01 am

    Bob, of course none of this information is available on any of the major news websites (at least the ones I’ve seen). They’re all tied up with Fat Tuesday results.


  432. 443 Bob, journalist February 6, 2008 at 12:01 am

    We’re seeing pictures now … but they report that nobody was hurt in the explosion …


  433. 444 Bob, journalist February 6, 2008 at 12:15 am

    It now looks like the next big storm will be somewhat smaller and of lesser intensity than the last but still tornado capable … and hopefully the brunt will pass north of us … now they’re projecting that it will pass through at least part of Nashville … 1-2 inch hail … active warnings in 4 TN counties, 2 in KY but mostly rural areas.

    3 now reported dead in western KY and 3 more in middle TN(not confirmed as new but suggested) at least 5 in Memphis … 20 tractor trailers overturned in Jackson.


  434. 445 Bob, journalist February 6, 2008 at 12:36 am

    Last report for a while … revised fatality report … at least 15 … Arkansas, Miss, TN, and KY … two rounds to go. Nashville itself has been lucky so far … but the third round is expected to come through here. Currently, no deaths, minimal injuries and damage … with regard to the explosion and fire … at least 30 ambulances plus heavy equipment called in but no details as of yet … Vanderbilt Hospital is on Alert.

    We’re quiet at the moment … storms have slowed … next round now expected at 1:00 instead of earlier projection of about 12:30.


  435. 446 flbravesgirl February 6, 2008 at 12:57 am

    Here’s hoping the storms lose their punch & the rest of the night is quiet. Stay safe, y’all. Good night.


  436. 447 Bob, journalist February 6, 2008 at 3:43 am

    Still storming but the worst appears to be over … it’s clear west of us … 26 now listed as dead … 12 in TN … the plane that went down must have been a small private job … no further report.

    Night all


  437. 448 Bob, journalist February 6, 2008 at 4:35 am

    For those who are lazy or have difficulty reading for whatever reason … http://www.biblegateway.com/resources/audio/


  438. 449 ssiscribe February 6, 2008 at 7:01 am

    Wow, I can’t believe the storm reports from last night. First of all, hope all of us here in the neighborhood are safe and rode it out OK. Now here in Georgia, looks like it may be our turn, as the line is going to come in mid-morning. It’s 64 degrees here; not exactly early February weather, methinks.

    Thoughts and prayers to all those who have suffered from these storms.

    And as an ironic FYI, today was to have been the statewide tornado drill in Georgia as part of Severe Awareness Week. For obvious reasons, the drill has been moved to Friday. I just hope I don’t hear sirens going off today, for it that be the case, it won’t be a drill.

    The Scribe abides.



  439. 450 Chop Seal February 6, 2008 at 8:15 am

    BRaking NeWs: There were some storms last night but I was writing beet stories and listening to country music and playing with a cat and doing the things beet writers do – and eating a bowl of cheese whelk – and I must have missed them. Beet writing is tough.

    Hope all bloggers are safe. It is getting dark here and the weather forecast is not good.


  440. 451 Voice of Reason February 6, 2008 at 8:40 am

    Bob, Hillbilly… I hope everyone fared well from the storms last night. I can’t believe the numbers I’m hearing this morning… 44 dead? Is that right? Here in NE Georgia, we’re not expecting the same intensity of storms, but we are expecting the system to rumble through pretty soon. Everyone stay safe…

    I have alot of work today, but I’ll check in occasionally ->


  441. 452 ssiscribe February 6, 2008 at 9:18 am

    BREAKING NEWS: The tornado watch for far NW Georgia now has been extended to include all of Metro Atlanta until 2 p.m. Methinks I’m going to charge the ol’ laptop up now so I can fry fish if and when the power goes out.

    Good thing I wrote my http://www.bigleagueblog.net piece last night. I did update it just now, but I guess it’s time to hunker down, as Munson says.



  442. 453 Voice of Reason February 6, 2008 at 9:20 am

    9 days, 2 hours, 43 minutes, 7 seconds… but who’s counting? 😀


  443. 454 Voice of Reason February 6, 2008 at 9:28 am

    G’mornin’ scribe. I have left my first comment on Big League Blog… Caminar Los Bravos!

    Duck and cover… 😯


  444. 455 berigan2electricboogaloo February 6, 2008 at 9:42 am

    Man, what a night! At least 45 dead they said on CNN! Don’t like the words at least…. 😦


  445. 456 lew614 February 6, 2008 at 10:38 am

    Wow- 45 dead. Those storms were as bad as any I’ve ever heard of. Glad Bob is safe and the hot tub still functional. Makes the foot of snow we’re expecting today seem rather insignificant by comparison. At least Kathy decided it was the better part of wisdom to come back home after getting no more than a half mile away-She said cars were sliding down the hilll abovew our house. At least the house is not likely to blow away.

    On a more pleasant front-Sherlock Holmes was being discussed recently. I’ve read most of Conan Doyle’s stories, though not quite all (it’s on the list of things to do). However, I would like to give a plug for a couple of contemporary authors who have continued the legend. First-Laurie King. She has written a series of stories starting when Holmes has retired to beekeeping and he encounters a girl in her late teens. A relationship develops and she becoes his protege and ater his wife. There are about six books in the series and they are excellent. Next, the author Caleb Carr, responding to a contest sponsered by the Baker Street Irregulars, wrote a story entitled The Italian Secretary. Instead of including it in an edited anthology, the Irregulars had it printed as a novel. It is also excellent.

    Just thought y’all would like to know. Check them out. You will not be disappointed. The Game is Afoot.


  446. 457 paladin24 February 6, 2008 at 10:43 am

    I see where Clements used the same script in his Senate appearance that he used on CBS. And I don’t believe him any more this time than I did before.


  447. 458 Carolina Lady February 6, 2008 at 10:47 am

    The political discussion is getting too personal. There will be no more. I’ll just delete anything more that I see. If it can’t be discussed without getting personal, it won’t be discussed at all.


  448. 459 paladin24 February 6, 2008 at 10:50 am

    Can someone tell me an “easy” way to put a thumbnail what-ever in my postings? The empty-headed silhouette is probably appropriate, but I would like “more”. I await with baited(shrimp)breath.


  449. 460 Voice of Reason February 6, 2008 at 10:51 am

    Now… baseball.

    What is the scoop on Chuck James’ shoulder? I know it was problematic last season, but supposedly the off-season rest took care of it. Is there news from the early season throwing sessions?


  450. 461 Voice of Reason February 6, 2008 at 10:53 am

    …I await with baited(shrimp)breath.

    Try the tilapia. 😀


  451. 462 Carolina Lady February 6, 2008 at 10:53 am

    Paladin, go to the top of the page to MY DASHBOARD > EDIT PROFILE. That will take you to a page where you’ll see how to upload an avatar and post it.

    It only takes a 32 x 32 pixel image.


  452. 463 Carolina Lady February 6, 2008 at 10:55 am

    Raisins, the little I’ve read on James’ shoulder indicates that he’s had some ‘soreness’ and I sense some concern although it seems to be being brushed off for now. But I’m so far behind in news all that may have changed by now.


  453. 464 paladin24 February 6, 2008 at 10:57 am

    Baseball, apple pie and Motherhood(from conception). How’s that?


  454. 465 Voice of Reason February 6, 2008 at 11:01 am

    No Chevrolet?


  455. 466 journalist jimmy smith February 6, 2008 at 11:02 am

    thank you, carolina lady. that was quick work. and carolina lady did it without insulting and alienating bloggers here. and carolina lady later will admit to having done this and will not blame it on anyone else. ah, it is a fresh new blogging experience and carolina lady is a premier blog host(ess). and carolina lady is not to be trifled with so nobody better blog anymore politics on here today. and let’s keep religion out of the stuff, too. no politics, no religion. just baseball and stuff. wait, there is the phone . . . oh, the humanity! it is a politician! no, no, no, jimmy smith cannot vote for you in the general election. no, no, no, jimmy smith will not send you money. no, no, no, jimmy smith cannot volunteer to make these annoying phone calls for you. no, no, no. and now another phone call. should journalist answer this time? hate to just let it ring . . . “hello, hello?” “oh, frank, so nice of frank to call. let journalist get chop seal for frank. braking news?”


  456. 467 berigan2electricboogaloo February 6, 2008 at 11:02 am

    CL, I understand. Wish folks here could talk about it though. I am on a jazz forum, and no joke, I am outnumbered 50 to 1 JJS would find many a fan of the other Jimmy Smith! 🙂
    Of course there, I have to take it, 50 folks reading dozens of bloggers, and trying to fact check on their sources is very tiring. But, sometimes I just have to show lemmings another viewpoint. Nuff said, I’m right, that’s all that matters ! 😆

    Baseball news already!!! Baltimore, trade Bedard already!!! Surprised other teams(Yanks, R. Sox) haven’t shown interest..though I guess it would be pretty stupid to trade him to a team in your division!!! Still, only Seattle has interest in a lefty that lead the league in strikeouts?? I know he was suffering tired arm at the end of the season, but still….


  457. 468 paladin24 February 6, 2008 at 11:02 am

    I have study/work to do. But, before I go: Little Red Riding Hood sez, “Grandma, what a sharp censorship pencil you have.”


  458. 469 Voice of Reason February 6, 2008 at 11:06 am

    Have a good day, paladin (he said with olive branch still extended…)


  459. 470 paladin24 February 6, 2008 at 11:10 am

    Quickly: VOR, you need not offer any olive branch. I love a little give-n-take, as long as it is not malicious. Have a good ‘un, yourself.


  460. 471 nacly February 6, 2008 at 11:18 am

    CL…perhaps you already deleted some posts; if not, when did it get personal? My feelings haven’t been rubbed the wrong way in the least. Opinions are good…differing opinions prevent tunnel vision. Did I miss something?


  461. 472 mrgil February 6, 2008 at 11:22 am

    Good morning all, Catching up on the news on the storms and I am reminded of how quickly our lives can be changed. When “Mother Nature” comes like a thief in the night to do her dirty work it would seem to me to be particularly cruel. I pray for the souls of those lost and for the well being of the survivors.

    Bob, thank you for the audio Bible. My eyes give out on me quickly these days. I have many audio books to entertain and inform me.

    Sscribe…. Soon my second favorite spectator sport will get underway. I was never a fan of the Big E but the wife was. After he died, we drifted away from the sport. I’m not a Little E fan either but I recognize talent when I see it.

    CL…. Roger that on the political discussions….. but “You Know” 😉

    WW…. well, my lady has said no more so I won’t comment other than to say good argument.

    FBG… No reminder need for this old guy that never forgets how truly blessed I am to have my wife nor begin to express to her how much she really means to me. I do try to keep her spoiled however just so she will over look my many shortcomings.

    After all, how many men are so lucky as to be married to a girl who will not eat a fish unless she cleans it? Oh my….. 🙂

    Lew… The snow will make you appreciate your spring break even more. Have you considered charging rent on your Florida property so you can take depreciation? You can always make a yearly gift to your son and his wife to make it cost neutral for him. It may not sound ethical but it is legal. Corporations do it all the time.


  462. 473 journalist jimmy smith February 6, 2008 at 11:24 am

    oh, the humanity! blog harmony is restored. carolina lady is the best! golly, gee, wow! (please mention jimmy smith, carolina lady). wow! knowledgeable, pretty, smart, too. spells better than frankster (of course, so does chop seal). and the blog has been returned to baseball and pie. and yes, jimmy smith, of the hammond b-3 jimmy smith’s, is quite famous. almost as famous for music as this journalist is for journalism. but, alas, that jimmy smith had no seal. and hold the olive branches . . . grinch will want to make chili. bet grinch wishes about now grinch had some more citropsis root. oh, well, the hair on the tops of the feet should begin to recede soon. nice to be able to see the toes again.

    and it is raining again. lots of firetrucks going by today as there is carnage on the nearby interstate highway. people must slow down in such bad weather!


  463. 474 mrgil February 6, 2008 at 11:35 am

    Alright, time to get up and do something outside. It would be terrible to waste such a beautiful day.

    I am taking two of the grand daughters to a hockey game tonight. The storms will hit the Richmond area around 8 PM tonight. I hope they do little more than add to the water table.

    Have a good day everyone.


  464. 475 lew614 February 6, 2008 at 11:41 am

    Which was, quite honestly, the point of not discussing politics or religion on the other blog. They are topics that are extremely personal and cannot be discussed any other way but personally.


  465. 476 Carolina Lady February 6, 2008 at 11:45 am

    “(please mention jimmy smith, carolina lady)”: OK.

    jimmy smith



  466. 477 flbravesgirl February 6, 2008 at 11:48 am

    Morning, all! Glad to see you’re OK, Bob but very saddened by the losses overnight.

    VOR, where in NE Georgia? Do you know Rabun County? (And I keep looking at the countdown too. C’mon spring training!)

    Lew, I’ll have to look for those books. Sir Arthur, & Dame Agatha too, are old friends.


  467. 478 lew614 February 6, 2008 at 11:50 am

    VOR-Yes, there are reports that not only was Chuck diagnosed with a slight rotator cuff tear in the off season (rest, not surgery was suggested), but it is also reported recently that he is still experiencing at least occasional discomfort.

    All of this brings to mind the Gonzalez and Hampton situations. Why is it that MRI’s are not showing the damage until they get into HIGH RESOLUTION MRI’s? Why not start with the HR MRI and then get the damn problems surgically repaired six months earlier instead of screwing around and waiting? Seems to make sense to me, but not to MLB officials.

    Kris Benson attended a workout for the Phillies in Atlanta (why there, I have no idea). There are also reports that the Braves may have an interest in him as well. Would make sens if Chuck is now expected to miss time or to take longer to begin the season.


  468. 479 lew614 February 6, 2008 at 11:54 am

    FBG-The Laurie King books ARE in print-at least very recently (within the past two months-and I saw them at Borders. Both my wife AND I thoroughly enjoyed them. The first is called The Beekeeper’s Apprentice. I’ll check out the other titles and post them later. The Caleb Carr may or may not be currently in print, but check the used books on Amazon. You may be able to find one for pennies + shipping-still less than cover price.


  469. 480 Voice of Reason February 6, 2008 at 12:09 pm

    FBG: Jefferson, GA nestled directly between Gainesville and Athens. I love Rabun County. Beautiful mountains, streams and other scenery. The other raisins and I love to make the 1 hour drive there to hike the great trails.

    Lew: I read about the rotator cuff tear, and also read that the off-season rest was supposed to have taken care of it. I am also aware of the way information is carefully crafted before being disseminated to the masses. I thought there was possibly some current news I haven’t heard. It is my understanding that the Braves were aware of the slight tear in the cuff prior to the end of last season. I hope the rest was suffucient. I had my rotator cuff repaired arthroscopically in 1990. I never had the same arm strength afterward, and still have pain 18 years forward. Of course, I didn’t have MLB caliber rehab, either.

    Not sure why the Braves would have an interest in Benson unless he’s looking for a 1 year deal at substantially less than the $7.5M option the Orioles declined to pick up. It would seem to me that there are other more cost effective choices. And he has a whack-job for a wife…


  470. 481 flbravesgirl February 6, 2008 at 12:24 pm

    So you’re not too far away from me…, well, my future home. Our place is just outside Tiger with a magnificent view of Black Rock Mountain.


  471. 482 lew614 February 6, 2008 at 12:25 pm

    VOR-When the Orioles, who have tons of money don’t pick up what today is an extremely small amount for a pitcher, the writing is on the way. It would probably mean that he wasn’t going to see that kind of $$$$ from anyone. He might be worthwhile as a number five if you could get him for a good price.


  472. 483 Carolina Lady February 6, 2008 at 12:25 pm

    Hmm. I hope they don’t bring that Benson circus to town! 🙄


  473. 484 lew614 February 6, 2008 at 12:26 pm

    Excuse me-The writing is on the wall, not way.


  474. 485 journalist jimmy smith February 6, 2008 at 12:29 pm

    so, in the woods it would be tiger woods?


  475. 486 Voice of Reason February 6, 2008 at 12:34 pm

    FBG: Tiger… near Clayton, right? Lake Burton, Tallulah Gorge, Sky Valley… I wish I was there now. :mrgreen: Beautiful area…


  476. 487 paladin24 February 6, 2008 at 12:41 pm

    My area was by-passed by the weather system. One advantage to living so far out in the sticks. Even tornadoes can’t find you…unless you live in a trailer park.

    CL; Where in the Sam Hill do you find an image that is 32 X 32 pixels? I can’t come up with anything that even approaches being that size.


  477. 488 Voice of Reason February 6, 2008 at 12:48 pm

    Paladin: The original image I used for my avatar was 99 X 115… 😯


  478. 489 Hillbilly February 6, 2008 at 12:49 pm

    Paladin, Just use any pic and it will resize it for you.

    VOR, I have a good friend (graduated high school with me here in Arkansas) that writes for the Gainesville Times. I have no idea how he got so far away from here because his wife is from Louisiana. I’m glad he did, though, because he’s the one that turned me on to the greatest Southern Rock Band in the Nation…Athens-based rockers, The Drive-By Truckers.


  479. 490 flbravesgirl February 6, 2008 at 12:50 pm

    Yep. We’re in between Tiger & Clayton, just off Old Hwy. 441. We spent our vacations at a friend’s cabin in Rabun Gap for about 10 years before starting the house-hunt. Thought it would take a long time to find the right place & this basically fell in our laps right away. I guess it was meant to be.

    jimmy, don’t know about the woods. There’s Tiger Mountain & Tiger Creek. I’m still trying to find out where the name came from.


  480. 491 Voice of Reason February 6, 2008 at 12:58 pm

    Don’t forget the Tiger Drive-In!!! 😀


  481. 492 Carolina Lady February 6, 2008 at 12:59 pm

    Paladin, the image can be resized right there on the upload page. I mentioned the finished size because detailed images won’t show up well. A simple image works well. If you like, send the image to me, I’ll run it through one of my photo editors and will send it back, ready to upload. Going out to yet another appointment for mother shortly, will be back probably around 3:30 and will be glad to do it then.


  482. 493 mrgil February 6, 2008 at 1:00 pm

    Voice of Reason … But a very beautiful whack job… 🙂 Would offer balance to the line up 🙂

    CL… I love the circus… 🙂 Bring in the clowns…. Oh already have those… Well, anyway, I think Benson would be a good pick up… He husband wouldn’t be a bad addition to the team either. 🙂


  483. 494 Carolina Lady February 6, 2008 at 1:03 pm

    Sounds like asking for trouble to me! 😆 CJ’s wife would even accompany him around the bases. Gotta go! 🙂


  484. 495 Voice of Reason February 6, 2008 at 1:03 pm

    She might distract Chipper… Did she ever work at Hooters?


  485. 496 mrgil February 6, 2008 at 1:07 pm

    🙂 Uh… low blow on the Hooters reference… Got antlers? Nice rack…. 🙂


  486. 497 mrgil February 6, 2008 at 1:08 pm

    The flip side is he signs with Phillies and that makes them a much better team… In fact it would be a very good addition to the Phil’s pitching staff.


  487. 498 mrgil February 6, 2008 at 1:11 pm

    I would not be surprised if the Nationals took an interest either. They have a lot more room on their payroll if they choose to add him. Bedard is the guy I cannot figure. Good numbers with a bad team.


  488. 499 Voice of Reason February 6, 2008 at 1:13 pm

    Very good point, gil… Subtraction by addition, perhaps?


  489. 500 flbravesgirl February 6, 2008 at 1:14 pm

    🙂 The drive-in is just down the road, the winery is almost across from us & the golf course is just down the road the other way. Something for everyone.


  490. 501 journalist jimmy smith February 6, 2008 at 1:14 pm

    Isn’t it rich?
    Are we a pair?
    Me here at last on the ground,
    You in mid-air.
    Send in the clowns.

    Isn’t it bliss?
    Don’t you approve?
    One who keeps tearing around,
    One who can’t move.
    Where are the clowns?
    Send in the clowns.

    Just when I’d stopped opening doors,
    Finally knowing the one that I wanted was yours,
    Making my entrance again with my usual flair,
    Sure of my lines,
    No one is there.

    Don’t you love farce?
    My fault I fear.
    I thought that you’d want what I want.
    Sorry, my dear.
    But where are the clowns?
    Quick, send in the clowns.
    Don’t bother, they’re here.

    Isn’t it rich?
    Isn’t it queer,
    Losing my timing this late
    In my career?
    And where are the clowns?
    There ought to be clowns.
    Well, maybe next year.

    now, not likely to find that on any other baseball blog.

    and the matter of chipper and the benson attraction . . . remember when chipper was flirting with the sideline reporter during a playoff game? a game that the braves were losing? chipper is easily distracted and is not to be trusted with beautiful girls. of course, this may be true of most bloggers here. uh, chipper is a poor example, might pull something. or strain an oblique. and the worst chipper injury to talk about – the tweaked groin. oh, the humanity! why was chipper tweaking?


  491. 502 ssiscribe February 6, 2008 at 1:15 pm

    Hey folks, the bad weather has blown through Atlanta and we ended up with a little rain, a couple rumbles of thunder and little else. For that, we’re thankful.

    Benson: He’s from Atlanta. Played at Sprayberry High in Cobb County. No way the Braves make that move (and I doubt there is interest). Already have a ton of starters, two or three of which will start the season in Richmond.

    Northeast Georgia: Fond place for me. Lived in Gainesville and Cleveland. Met my wife while I lived in the mountains. Love Rabun County. Beautiful country.

    Hillbilly, who’s your friend at The Times? I’ve seen that paper once or twice or three times in the past, LOL.



  492. 503 Voice of Reason February 6, 2008 at 1:16 pm



  493. 504 Voice of Reason February 6, 2008 at 1:22 pm

    The Mike Tirico Show on ESPN radio is like audio Valium… 😳


  494. 505 journalist jimmy smith February 6, 2008 at 1:22 pm

    “Met my wife while I lived in the mountains.”

    da-vy, da-vy crockett . . . 😆

    oh, the humanity! jimmy smith is on top of jimmy smith’s game today. soon, everybody on the blog will be after jimmy smith.

    now, music . . . er, stuff:
    Born on a mountain top in Tennessee, greenest state in the land of the free.
    Raised in the woods so’s he knew every tree. Killed him a bear when he was only three.
    Davy, Davy Crockett King of the Wild Frontier.

    He fought single-handed through the Injun war, ’till the Creeks was whipped and peace was restored.
    And while he was handling this risky chore, made himself a legend, forevermore.
    Davy, Davy Crockett the man who don’t know fear.

    When he lost his love, and his grief was gall, in his heart he wanted to leave it all,
    And lose himself in the forest tall, but he answered instead, his country’s call.
    Davy, Davy Crockett, the choice of the whole frontier.

    He went off to Congress and served a spell. Fixin’ up the government and laws as well.
    Took over Washington, so we hear tell, and patched up the crack in the Liberty Bell.
    Davy, Davy Crockett, seein’ his duty clear. (or Serving his country well.)

    When he come home, his politickin’ done, the western march had just begun.
    So he packed his gear, and his trusty gun and lit out a grinnin’ to follow the sun.
    Davy, Davy Crockett, leadin the Pioneers.

    Well, he heard about Huston and Austin and so, to the Texas plains, he just had to go
    Where freedom was fightin’ another foe and they needed him at the Alamo.
    Davy, Davy Crockett, King of the Wild Frontier.

    His land is biggest, and his land is best from grassy plains to the mountain crest.
    He’s ahead of us all in meeting the test. Followin’ his legend right into the West.
    Davy, Davy Crockett, King of the Wild Frontier. King of the Wild Frontier.


  495. 506 chrisklob February 6, 2008 at 1:25 pm

    Where in the Sam Hill do you………

    Paladin, just exactly who in the Sam Hill is Sam Hill? My grandfather used to say his name from time to time, usually when he was angry about something. Sam Hill must not have been a good or nice person. If Granddaddy were still alive today he’d be 104. Was Sam Hill a mutual acquaintaince of y’alls?



  496. 507 Voice of Reason February 6, 2008 at 1:29 pm

    Sam Hill is an American English slang phrase, a euphemism for “Hell”, or “Damn” (as in, “What in the Sam Hill is that?”). Its etymology is uncertain, however it first appeared in print in America in the Seattle Times Newspaper in reference to James J. Hill (Jim Hill). Jim Hill was the legendary “empire builder”, whose railroads included the Great Northern Railway (U.S.). He was a man given to notable rages when anyone dared to oppose one of his grandiose schemes. So frequent were these tirades that the paper carried as a standing headline: “Jim Hill is as mad as Sam Hill.”

    Other published usages include “go like Sam Hill” or “run like Sam Hill” – in reference to Colonel Samuel Hill of Guilford, Connecticut who perpetually ran for office in the late 19th Century. However, he was apparently so unsuccessful that except for a brief mention in the Encyclopedia of American Politics, 1946 edition, there is scarce evidence that he existed.

    Another explanation links the phrase to Sam Hill, an Abenaki Indian basket maker who lived near Saratoga Springs, NY in the early 19th century, known for the baskets he sold to tourists and for his disheveled appearance.

    Others have suggested that the “Sam” in the phrase derives from Samiel, the name of the Devil in Der Freischütz, an opera by Carl Maria von Weber that was performed in New York in 1825.

    Ultimately, the expression may simply be derived from a bowdlerization or alliteration of “hell” with “hill” when used in 19th century America by frontiersmen, especially when they needed to clean up their language in the presence of ladies.

    The alternate history webcomic Roswell, Texas refers to “Sam Hill” as being a Texican monument (in the story’s continuity, the Republic of Texas did not join the United States, but remained a nation unto itself) similar to Mount Rushmore, but bearing the faces of four Texas heroes named ‘Sam’: Sam Houston, Sam Walker, Sam Colt and Sam Clemens, a.k.a. Mark Twain.

    The Oxford English Dictionary indicates that the origin is unknown. That is probably more reliable than any of the above sources.

    Don’tya love wikipedia?


  497. 508 journalist jimmy smith February 6, 2008 at 1:44 pm

    famous nolan ryan is going to be president of the texas rangers. did not see him on the ballot yesterday, though. certainly would have voted for nolan ryan. could portend big things for nolan ryan. wasn’t you-know-who also president of the texas rangers at one time? oh, the humanity!


  498. 509 paladin24 February 6, 2008 at 2:35 pm

    Klobber; VOWikipedia was close. Actually though, “Sam Hill” is a term that you use when addressing the Blog Mistress who has recently deleted several of your posts and you want to make sure you stay on her good side.
    Questions? Comments? Send a SSAE.

    And I learned “Sam Hill” from MY grandaddy, so it must have been around for a while.


  499. 510 Voice of Reason February 6, 2008 at 2:40 pm



  500. 511 paladin24 February 6, 2008 at 2:43 pm

    Would anyone like to volunteer to be the go-between for me and CL? I’ll send it to you and you forward it to her. That way she doesn’t have to give out her e-mail to us riff raff.


  501. 512 savannahguy February 6, 2008 at 2:55 pm

    The Esteemed and generous and wise Carolina Lady, our ever-proper blog hostess with the mostess has deleted a post. That’s disappointing but understandable. I believe I read the deleted post before it went “poof” and I wish it would have stayed and not vanished. It was from the heart I suppose and I would like to have addressed it.

    Too late to remark on a missing post now and wouldn’t be right, but I will say that regurgitating Fox News talking points at this stage of life is not necessary. I’ve lived too long, learned a thing or two, been around the block several times and am set in way too many ways to require talking points from any source.

    Seems I’ve inadvertently pushed a few hot buttons with one of my old favorite denizens with my political opines. Trust me when I sincerely say, that was not intentional. Not at all. One thing I like about this blog (the denizens) is that anything respectful, legal and moral is acceptable as long as it doesn’t get out of hand. Whether we agree or disagree with each other, this is and has been a respectful, peaceable kingdom from the beginning.

    Regardless, I’ll take my share of blame for setting the stage for the eraser being used. If anyone was offended, I’m sorry. If anyone was shocked by anything I said, I’m not really sure of what it could have been but I’ll quote May West and say, “Those who are easily shocked should be shocked more often”.

    That said, I think we would all agree that political discussion, as cyclical, seldom and spontaneous as it may be, has run its course for now.

    It gets old quick.

    At the same time, reasonable adults don’t really need hard and unbendable subject rules like some other blogs, where nothing remotely resembling conservative political commentary or outlandishly liberal statements can be broached, lest negativity escalates and the entire room quickly denigrates into personal attacks and such. Must not mix anything controversial with a community that skews heavily toward youthful immaturity, linear thinking, undeveloped values, poor communication skills or boorish behavior.

    It is absolutely fair and good to disagree and it should be fine to discuss politics on occasion (repeat…on occasion). Intelligent ladies and gents do it every day. It’s not a practice on Braves and Stuff to question the integrity, authenticity or intelligence of other denizens for any reason.

    That’s for other blogs.

    There are a few fundamental forks in the road of life and we’ve all taken different turns. Having lived a while, I know that, despite our differences, the varied twists, turns and unique paths taken, most roads tend to crisscross and we may all eventually wind up in the same good place at the end of our journey.

    That is, if a good compass is used.

    (and if your not and idiot)


  502. 513 lew614 February 6, 2008 at 2:57 pm

    Gil-No. I’m leaving housing and tax matters just the way they are now and have been for seven years. Four different accountants in two states have looked over our taxes and this is the easiest, most lucrative way to do things. Believe me, we pay so much tax that I have tried everything within reason. I already have enogh of a problem being self employed and don’t need any additional headaches. My son couldn’t afford to pay the mortgage anyway. I think I’ll stick with the status quo.

    Besides, I have already made money on this house-a lot of money for what I’ve spent. I will not be overly greedy. We live comfortably, have the bills paid and have a good retirement plan that has been paid into for almost 25 years with TIAA CREF, the National Teacher’s annuity fund, which is widely acknowledged to be the safest, most reliable fund. They have a phenomenal real estate portfolio that is making us almost a 100% return on our contributions and has been for some time-even during this ridiculous housing crisis.

    We have very little in stocks (I am not a speculative type person and do not gamble) and have some inflation linked bonds in the fund-but not too much. We also have a basic interest bearing account within the fund, which nets us much more than current rates. We will be in decent shape when we retire in another 10 or so years-IF they do something about health insurance, Medicare and prescription drugs in the meantime and get costs under control.


  503. 514 mrgil February 6, 2008 at 2:57 pm

    Lots of “Stuff” on the blog today…. easy for this bunch to get distracted… 🙂

    Jimmy Smith best hang onto the shoes as we may need them come November.

    Yes, Davey Crockett will live on thanks to Disney… Had a “coon skin hat” as a tyke as well as a set of MM ears. Such blissful days when all we had to worry about was the Russians dropping the big one on us….


  504. 515 paladin24 February 6, 2008 at 2:57 pm

    Stand back! Not everyone at once. I hate crowds.


  505. 516 savannahguy February 6, 2008 at 2:59 pm

    Paladin…did you get erased too? Well, that didn’t take long. Wish I could’a seen’em. Bad?

    I’ll be glad to help with your avatar, even though I’m sure CL is happy to help too. I’ll be here another thirty minutes…between meetings and such.


  506. 517 journalist jimmy smith February 6, 2008 at 3:05 pm

    yes, blog harmony is back. and there is almost no one hear who cannot spell. where be your gibes now? your gambols? your songs? your flashes of merriment, that were wont to set the table on a roar?

    carolina lady runs a tight ship.

    now, baseball . . . stitches are required in the manufacture of a baseball. name another ball with stitches.


  507. 518 mrgil February 6, 2008 at 3:07 pm

    Hummmm, Football is for sissys? Balls are lacy. On the humility…


  508. 519 paladin24 February 6, 2008 at 3:09 pm

    SG; I didn’t think they were bad. I was just ruffling your’s and BH’s feathers as we have always done. But, it’s all done and I’m cool. Let it go.

    The avatar is on it’s way, I think. I am such a klutz when it come to this modern stuff. I just recently broke myself of licking the screen and putting a stamp on it. Let me know if it gets through.


  509. 520 Chop Seal February 6, 2008 at 3:13 pm

    The Ugandan yellow-billed kite wings feather ball? Is that it, jimmy smith?


  510. 521 chrisklob February 6, 2008 at 3:20 pm

    VOR, thanks for the wiki info. I was trying to get a little dig on our friend Paladin but I think that went over everyone’s head.

    For all, I don’t want anyone to think that I was complaining yesterday when I made this comment:

    Whew, with all this political and religious talk I think I might go away and come back later!

    I am not an overly religious or overly politically active denizen. I have my beliefs. I just choose not to share them most of the time. I do NOT mind others discussing those matters at all. Sometimes I read those comments because it helps to draw a picture of the writer in my mind’s eye. Since very few of us know each other personally it gives me a little insight to what each of you are about which I find very interesting (and sometimes very entertaining)!

    Other times I just scroll by when I find them to be repetitive or of matters that do not pertain or have interest to me, as I am sure everyone else here does. Yesterday was one of those days. That much chatter about those two topics makes my eyes roll back in my head.

    That being said, our wonderful webmistress was obviously distressed by yesterday’s discussions. Distressed enough to delete some posts. Let’s try not to anger the good Lady!


  511. 522 savannahguy February 6, 2008 at 3:25 pm

    Paladin, instructions on avatar:

    1. Have your image file on desktop
    2. Scroll to top of blog and click “My Account”
    3. Scroll down and click “Edit Profile”
    4. Click “Choose File”
    5. Attach your desktop image/avatar
    6. Click “Upload Image”
    7. Crop image with cursor
    8. When cropped like you want, click “Update Profile”
    9. Pat your head while rubbing your belly and spit over your shoulder.
    10. That’s it. Done.


  512. 523 savannahguy February 6, 2008 at 3:32 pm

    Klobber, I though you left mad. Couldn’t even buy a drink at the saloon because it was locked and the lights were off.

    Anyway, this should make everyone get along and create blogharmony for all.


  513. 524 Voice of Reason February 6, 2008 at 3:34 pm

    Klobber: Yeah, I got the dig… I just went for the cheap “overkill” laugh…

    Odd thing about yesterday… One of the things I like most about the blog world is the semi-anonymity. Somehow, though, I opened up and spilled my own guts. Not yet sure why… 😕


  514. 525 savannahguy February 6, 2008 at 3:48 pm

    HGWT, hope that helped some with avatar process.


  515. 526 mrgil February 6, 2008 at 3:52 pm

    T’is the spell of Carolina Lady… 🙂

    Not to worry, just say only things you will not regret later. i.e. Confessing to be a closet Mets fan. 🙂


  516. 527 mrgil February 6, 2008 at 3:52 pm

    Okay folks, off to see the Renegades…


  517. 528 chrisklob February 6, 2008 at 4:08 pm

    SG, not mad at all. And for the last time, anytime you need a stiff drink and I’m not around, HELP YOURSELF!


  518. 529 chrisklob February 6, 2008 at 4:10 pm

    Looks like it’s going to be a rough evening for SG, CL and myself. Long line of thunderstorms moving this way!


  519. 530 Carolina Lady February 6, 2008 at 5:05 pm

    530 posts – 🙂



  520. 531 paladin24 February 6, 2008 at 5:06 pm

    SG; It helped a great deal. I love the HGWT one. The others are a little too close to the home, if you get my drift. BTW, I am cooking(gumbo), studying and trying to keep up with the blog. I am busier than a cat with Montezuma’s revenge on a new tin roof. And that is busy!

    CL; Thanks for the tutorial. I am glad to learn that I don’t have to spit over my belly. My expectorater is not up to that monumental task. Can I say all of this. Guess I’ll soon know.


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