28: Faces of the Braves

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by Bob journalist

NASHVILLE, TN – Come 30 March, I’ll don my traditional tinted glasses … but until then … here’s what I think, plain and simple.

It appears that, barring injury, our lineup is all but set … the Good, the Bad, and the Ugly …

The rotation appears set … Hudson, Smoltz, Glavine, Hampton … with several good arms trying to win the final spot. Soriano is our designated closer with Moylan and Acosta setting things up.

The other part of the battery is set … McCann can and will be the backstop … Miller, Sammons, Lopez, and Pena are vying for the backup position … maybe vying is a little strong, but hopefully someone will raise their hand and claim the position. In the best condition of his life Lopez received all of the early attention and may be a Cox favorite but I would like to see Clint Sammons get the job. Of all the positions, methinks it’s our weakest.

Infante is definitely our super sub…with Jones, Escobar, Johnson and Teixeira around the diamond from 3rd to 1st. In the outfield, from left to right it’s Diaz, Kotsay, and Francoeur and a cast of four, maybe five, vying for the primary bench position.

Yes, conventional wisdom has the Braves with a starting rotation of Tim Hudson, John Smoltz, Tom Glavine, and Mike Hampton … with Jair Jurrjens, Jo Jo Reyes, Chuck James and Buddy Carlyle competing for the final position.

I thought the trade that brought Tex to Atlanta was bad for two reasons … we needed starting pitching and Tex wasn’t a starting pitcher … and the price tag was too high in terms of what we gave up, especially for a rent-a-player. While perhaps just my singular opine, I would have liked to have seen Matt Diaz given a chance to play first base … and of course, a long term Salty in the hand was worth more than a “rent-a-bird” Tex and loss of additional prospects, methinks.

However, I thought trading Edgar for Jurrjens and Hernandez was very good because I believe Yunel is more than an adequate replacement and both Jair and Gorkys are good talents. At the same time, I thought bringing back Tom Glavine, who will soon be 42, for $8 million was fraught with peril … it’s a lot of money to pay a 42 year old pitcher. I read somewhere that the Braves jumped at the chance to get Tommy for $8 million … perhaps fools do indeed rush in. I don’t know what your expectations are for $8 million … but mine are greater than what I feel I can reasonably expect from him in 2008.

I threw every pitch I have today, and I normally don’t do that in a Spring Training game because it’s too hard … well, I’ve yet to fully buy into the notion that John’s approach to Spring Training is predicated on positives … but he is a competitor and it’s too early to sell him short.

Expectations are always subjective and there is good reason for playing the game … even Dan Patch didn’t win them all. Hopefully, Tommy will be a pleasant surprise and serve as the positive contagion John needs to have a good year … but, he is just a year younger than Glavine and his durability, given his history and 2007 problems, is a concern … as are the stats for these Hall members.

40:16-11 … 41:07-13 … Tom Seaver
41:09-14 … 42:06-14 … Steve Carlton
41:08-02 … 42:07-15 … Early Wynn
41:16-09 … 42:09-08 … Grover Cleveland Alexander
41:23-07 … 42:06-13 … Warren Spahn
40:14-08 … 41:??-?? … John Smoltz.
41:13-08 … 42:??-?? … Tom Glavine.

Mike Hampton, who is suffering from what is described as a groin strain … following his hamstring problem in Mexico, seems to be throwing well without experiencing arm/elbow discomfort. While everyone wishes Mike well and hopes for the best, that the Braves are placing such hopes on someone who hasn’t pitched in two years is also a concern. I don’t know the answer but I do wonder what the 5 all time best won-loss records are for pitchers attempting comebacks following their not having pitched in 2 or more years.

Quoting honest team player and leader “Hoss”, … Last year, Smoltz and Huddy were great, but our three-four-five guys couldn’t get past the fifth inning and our pen wound up in shambles … honestly, we were lucky to get to .500 Hopefully, with a good year from Glavine and getting some production from Hampton, you’re not running rookies out there. With such confidence, it’s little wonder that he was reluctant to put on the leotard. Perhaps, with such positive contagion coming from our team leader, we were indeed lucky to “get to .500” … it’s a team game … but we started 2007 with Rafael Soriano, Mike Gonzalez and Bob Wickman … and expected Boyer to contribute.

Soriano has been designated the team’s closer as we enter 2008 but he has yet to pitch during Spring Training … with his 2004 “Tommy John” surgery 3 ½ years behind him, Rafael doesn’t seem worried about his current soreness which is being attributed to Spring Training irritation following offseason inactivity.

Soriano’s discomfort near his elbow seems to be improving … at least that was the evaluation after completing his March 7th bullpen session … My elbow feels better today than yesterday. Yesterday all I did was play catch. Today it was just a little bit sore, but not the same. I asked them to let me throw … everything was good.

Rafael remains a concern, regardless of health issues … I frequently suggest that the key to pitching success is “above the neck” … and while so saying may just be a personal penchant, methinks Soriano’s history makes it appropriate to express such concerns relative to our expectations for him as a closer … he has his demons, and like on the “To Tell The Truth” game show, methinks there is some question as to his identity. Yes, he’s got the stuff … I just hope he doesn’t have multiple personalities as well.

Hopefully, the diagnosis and evaluation regarding Soriano’s physical condition are correct … and he gets off to a good start, exceeding all expectations … but, should that not be, we do have options in Peter Moylan and Manny Acosta … and Mike Gonzales is expected to return in early June.

Were it me, I’d use a modified six man rotation … (1) Hudson, (2) Jurrjens, (3) Smoltz, (4) Hampton, (5) Glavine … and (6) Carlyle or Reyes. Yes, it’s a modified rotation … designed to match John, Tommy, and Mike against the back end of the opposing team’s rotation … relieving stress and giving us a matchup advantage in a majority of our games. The sixth man is a floating spot starter since it’s not expected that Hudson, Smoltz, Hampton and Glavine will be able to perform as a group without interruption.

Obviously, there would be difficulties in effectively effecting such a rotation, but methinks for each such difficulty, there would be a way.

I initially disliked the Mark Kotsay trade, primarily because of “above the neck” concerns associated with his back problems … offensively and defensively … and my desire to see Jordan Schafer, Josh Anderson, Brandon Jones and Gregor Blanco in the mix for the 2008 CF position. That hasn’t changed … but, conventional wisdom will again rule and Kotsay will be in Center, barring unexpected changes in his performance.

I want to see Matt Diaz playing every day but Bobby Cox wisdom is almost certain to again find justification for not so doing. However, Kotsay will be a good addition … if he is used as the fifth outfielder, available as needed … with Anderson and/or Schafer given a chance to be the starting Centerfielder.

While we might well sign Tex to a long term contract, that would not be my expectation and I would not keep Thorman as his backup in 2008 … which again may be the current intent. No, my projected 2009 outfield would consist of Schafer, Anderson, Jones, and Francoeur … with Diaz spending the winter honing his skill set at first base. Conventional wisdom won’t allow it to happen but, we’d be a better team methinks.

Omar Infante and Will Ohman … now that’s a trade I liked, though final judgment will be reserved until we see how Ohman pitches at The Ted … his performance at “The Friendly Confines” has been poor under any standard, but so too has been his performance at “Home”.

Regardless of how Will fares, expectations are that Omar will be a definite upgrade over what we had last year … last season, he hit .271 for the Tigers in 66 games …playing six different positions … he didn’t pitch, catch, or play first base.

The lineup is anybody’s guess … conventional wisdom rules against what I’d like to see …

Kelly Johnson

Yunel Escobar

Matt Diaz

Chipper Jones

Mark Teixeira

Brian McCann

Jeff Francouer

Starting Pitcher

Mark Kotsay

The idea is to best the pitcher and score runs … and I think that lineup would do the best job of so doing. I’ve favored having the pitcher bat eighth for over 50 years … to my knowledge, Dixie Walker never tried it but he looked at the lineup as a circle rather than a straight line and liked the idea … that convinced me … but of course, kids are easy to convince.

Were I a beet righter, I’d ask the players, the coaches, and the manager … all the same question … What are you going to do differently this season?I’ll admit that it’s not a very profound question … but it’s short and easy for a beet righter to remember.

Unfortunately, methinks that most of the answers would most likely be but variations of the same message … of course, most players need answers that short and easy for them to remember.

Well, that’s the Good, the Bad, and the Ugly … the question is … which will it be?

~Bob~

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690 Responses to “28: Faces of the Braves”


  1. 1 Carolina Lady March 11, 2008 at 9:46 am

    Congratulations, Bob! That is a great lead. And done while sick with the ‘flu and a balky computer program, as well. Bravo!! 🙂

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  2. 2 BeRiGaN 3 tHe SeArCh FoR rOcK March 11, 2008 at 10:12 am

    Bravo! Boffo blog, Bob!

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  3. 3 Gil in Mechanicsville March 11, 2008 at 10:12 am

    An excellent perspective of the upcoming season from someone who has been around the bases a time or two… 🙂

    While I cannot agree on all of your observations, I share your apprehension with relying on aging arms.

    As for Sammons, I think it would benefit the Braves more to have him playing everyday in Richmond than playing once every five days in Atlanta. People need to get past the mentality that going down to the minors is always a bad thing. Players should be encouraged to view it a further opportunity to hone their skills and be ready to contribute from the moment they get off the plane.

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  4. 4 Gil in Mechanicsville March 11, 2008 at 10:17 am

    Looks like I am going to make it out of here today… 🙂 The boss is busy packing a few things so we can escape for a couple of days. Catch up with everyone later….

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  5. 5 BeRiGaN 3 tHe SeArCh FoR rOcK March 11, 2008 at 10:22 am

    I liked this part in particular….
    Were it me, I’d use a modified six man rotation … (1) Hudson, (2) Jurrjens, (3) Smoltz, (4) Hampton, (5) Glavine … and (6) Carlyle or Reyes. Yes, it’s a modified rotation … designed to match John, Tommy, and Mike against the back end of the opposing team’s rotation …

    I bet Smoltz would gain a few more wins going against teams #3’s!

    What about Lillibridge???? He’s 24, going to be 25 this year….does he have anything else to prove in the minors??? Where do you play him though??? He can be the main back up now with Infante out, but then what??? We seem to have too many quality players right now, who are ready RIGHT NOW…something I could not imagine after the big trade to the Rangers.

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  6. 6 BeRiGaN 3 tHe SeArCh FoR rOcK March 11, 2008 at 10:23 am

    Have a great time Gil! 🙂
    Oh, have a great Birthday Scribe!!!!

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  7. 7 BeRiGaN 3 tHe SeArCh FoR rOcK March 11, 2008 at 10:25 am

    Oh man, if this is really true, the “braintrust” of the braves is high on crack!!!! Why, why, why????? 😡 This team has no faith in it’s own talent!

    http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2008/03/braves-interest.html#comments

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  8. 8 chrisklob March 11, 2008 at 10:31 am

    Nice lead Sir Bob.

    And done while sick with the ‘flu and a balky computer program…

    Thanks for coming through and “playin’ hurt”!

    Gil, I agree with you on Sammons. Much better for him to be playing regularly than not.

    Here’s an idea for 1b next year, provided Tex isn’t resigned. The Pirates have a 1B prospect named Steven Pearce. He went to Univ. of South Carolina and has advanced quickly through their minor league system hitting a combined .302 along the way. He is blocked at 1b by Laroche and just yesterday was told he was being converted to OF in anticipation of either Jason Bay or Xavier Nady (or both) being traded this season. He got called up last September and hit .294. The Pirates aren’t going to win this year or next and need talent all over the field so I don’t think it would be too hard to find a way for the Braves to match up with them.

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  9. 9 chrisklob March 11, 2008 at 10:35 am

    Berigan, I think that Rivera may be considered as a replacement for Thor, not Diaz or anyone else in the Braves OF. Rivera is an OF but plays a little 1B. He’s a good hitter, much better than Thorman is.

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  10. 10 Savannah Guy March 11, 2008 at 10:45 am

    Bob, journalist… once again you’ve earned the “J” designation. Very fine lead, sir. We differ on a few issues, but agree on most.

    On backup catchers (and all others in ST), I still favor Javy but I can understand the concern. Some players get off to slower starts in the spring. That, and there are other talents and conditions that we fans usually don’t have access to. If ST stat results accounted for 100% of a manager’s decision for an opening day roster I would probably agree with you on Sammons.

    Agreed on Tex trade, although I’ll hope he resigns with the Braves because he seems to be a good man and it’s obvious he’s a great player. Like most, I expect he’ll grab the golden ring and fly away with his agent to a bigger budget team at seasons end. Diaz at first… I’ll go along with that. Diaz has great potential and is clutch.

    Unlike you, I like the Glavine trade… a lot. Maybe I should say that my expectations are just higher than yours on his benefit to the team. He’s a consummate pro, he’s an iceman and he’ll eat innings.

    Like you, I’d love to see a six-man rotation. That would break some new arms in just right and would provide more rest between starts for a long season (into October hopefully). As far as Hampton, I have no reasonable expectations for him… just hope. He’s a great pitcher and a good man, but methinks his training, exercise and stretching regimen will not be emulated by many. Or maybe I’m completely wrong there and it’s just rotten luck. Like William Safire said, “Never assume the obvious is true”.

    Well said on Soriano and dittos there. Unlike you, I was never concerned with Kotsay above the neck. Quite the contrary, I believe that to be his strongest body part. Other than a good attitude he’s also known to be a great team guy. His back (way below the neck) concerns me a bit.

    Finally, you ask: Well, that’s the Good, the Bad, and the Ugly … the question is … which will it be? My answer would be the same every year for every sports team:

    All of the above.

    As has been oft discussed, between the Braves, Mets and Phillies, the team with the least injuries this year will go to the postseason.

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  11. 11 ssiscribe March 11, 2008 at 10:47 am

    Bob, very interesting analysis of the team. I agree with some of your points wholeheartedly. I, too, think you’ll have in essence a six-man rotation this season, although it won’t be where six pitchers are employed each time through the rotation.

    Usually, we’ve seen the Braves skip the fifth starter early in the season when there is an off day. I don’t think that’s going to happen this time around. Therefore, you’ll see Smoltz, Glavine, Hampton, et al, working on an extra day’s rest at times early in the season. I’d much rather have those guys finish with 31 starts instead of 35, and be fresher with livelier arms down the stretch.

    I don’t think Buddy will make the team out of camp, but he’ll be here at some point during the season. Still think Bennett is going to make it as the spot starter/long reliever, but he’s behind after missing time with the flu.

    Now, Kotsay (there’s a transition, Bay Area Steve): I thought Anderson should’ve been given the CF job to lose going into camp, but the trade for Kotsay was too good a deal for the Braves not to make it. When healthy, Kotsay is a fine player and while it’s hard to classify anything as a “bargain” for $2 million, in baseball’s current economic environment, a .282 career hitter who gets on base and plays very good defense indeed qualifies as such.

    I think you’ll be surprised how much Diaz plays this season. I expect the platoon to be somewhat phased out. Perhaps five starts a week for Diaz in left, with Anderson making the other two starts. Perhaps Kotsay starts five games a week in center, with Anderson getting two starts there a week, as well. Keeps everybody fresh, keeps Matty’s bat in the lineup more, and gets Anderson and his speed in there more often than not.

    Hope you’re feeling better, though. Great job playing hurt, Bob J.!

    And thanks everybody for the birthday wishes! Greatly appreciated. Gotta run make sure my blog for today has been posted, then get back to it. Enjoy your day!

    The Scribe abides.

    –30–

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  12. 12 Savannah Guy March 11, 2008 at 10:48 am

    On that note, I’ll put my pencil down and venture out to hunt and gather. Hope my timing is better out there than it was in here… my post on the last blog was made just when the new blog came up and I’d still like some of your perspective on the “cyber scout” article ideas there.

    Later.

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  13. 13 BeRiGaN 3 tHe SeArCh FoR rOcK March 11, 2008 at 10:57 am

    Chris, I guess….but if Tex is healthy, he plays every day! We didn’t trade Andruw, so we are not going to trade Tex this year, are we??? Does Tex have a full no trade clause??? Knowing Boras, I bet he does.
    Juan Rivera, isn’t he the same guy that was let go by the Yankees for stealing from fellow players??? I am all for giving guys another chance, and I am sure he hasn’t done that since…still…..not a character guy, IMHO.
    Plus, he’s a right fielder by trade, so he won’t play there. Can he play Center??? Do we need yet another CF, or LF??? If we had the DH in the NL, it might make sense. Or if we traded Diaz. Otherwise, just stupid, IMHO.
    I know Spring training isn’t the real season, but we have too many good players right now for the outfield. Too many good players for the infield. Guys are going to waste away in AAA that at 24-25 should be in the Majors….

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  14. 14 BeRiGaN 3 tHe SeArCh FoR rOcK March 11, 2008 at 11:07 am

    Chris, when I said I guess, I am sure he is a better hitter than Thorman….it’s just the reasoning for the braves getting him is confusing….

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  15. 15 BeRiGaN 3 tHe SeArCh FoR rOcK March 11, 2008 at 11:13 am

    Missed hearing about this, glad DeRosa is able to play again….
    http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/recap?gameId=280310108

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  16. 16 BeRiGaN 3 tHe SeArCh FoR rOcK March 11, 2008 at 11:20 am

    a couple of interesting comments from Peter Gammons…

    The Braves: If Hampton is all right, the Braves should be in the middle of a tremendous race with the Phillies and Mets. Not only are Chipper Jones and Mark Teixeira devastating in the middle of the order, but the monstrous Jeff Francoeur, Brian McCann, Kelly Johnson and Yunel Escobar are all just entering their prime.

    The talk of Dodgers camp has been 19-year old left-hander Clayton Kershaw. “He’s going to help us this year,” says Russell Martin. “He has dominant stuff, a great curveball you can almost hear.” Some of the coaches suggest Kershaw might be able to help right now, but more likely he will open the season in the minors. Kershaw has only five starts above the A level, but between A and AA last season struck out 163 in 122 innings.

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  17. 17 BeRiGaN 3 tHe SeArCh FoR rOcK March 11, 2008 at 11:22 am

    Ok, just did a youtube search on Clayton Kershaw, and if Vic Scully is impressed, it’s a pretty good curve!!!!

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  18. 18 BeRiGaN 3 tHe SeArCh FoR rOcK March 11, 2008 at 11:22 am

    Vic, Vin’s brother… 🙄

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  19. 19 flbravesgirl March 11, 2008 at 11:25 am

    Morning, y’all. Excellent lead, Sir Bob. It’s starting to sound as if Bobby is planning on using Diaz more this year rather than a strict platoon. I think he’s earned the chance to play everyday.

    Happy Birthday, Scribe!!!

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  20. 20 chrisklob March 11, 2008 at 11:29 am

    Berigan, the Rivera that the Yankees released was Ruben. I believe that he stole a glove from Jeter’s locker.

    I have mixed feelings about Juan Rivera. We don’t need another LF or RF but if he can play adequately at 1B for 5-10 games and can hit off the bench then I say FW should go get him. Gotta be better than Thor.

    As for Tex and his no trade clause, I’m not sure. But remember, he was traded already with his current contract.

    Scribe, Happy Birthday! This is for you:

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  21. 21 chrisklob March 11, 2008 at 11:37 am

    Interesting article about Willie Randolph and the expectations for the 2008 season.

    http://www.nypost.com/seven/03112008/sports/mets/willie_must_take_some_giant_steps_101436.htm

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  22. 22 BeRiGaN 3 tHe SeArCh FoR rOcK March 11, 2008 at 11:47 am

    Chris, my mistake then! Man, two guys named Rivera, that played for the Yankees near the same time!!! Well, then I think it’s unfair to him. He hit over .300 in 2006 with 80+ RBI’s. Injured most of last year, and at 29, shouldn’t have to settle for 100 AB’s here.
    A brief blurb I saw from the Angels on the 10th, sounds like they won’t give him away, or that they are even that interested in trading him. They have a pretty old, fragile outfield…at least in Vlad, and Garrett Anderson. They really hate to trade folks…sign a FA, sure, but trade someone??? Never!

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  23. 23 paladin2008 March 11, 2008 at 1:02 pm

    Methinks:

    It is too early to sour on the Tex trade. Even if we don’t resign him, he has a chance to help us get to the big dance this year(while Chipper and Smoltz can still contribute)and the folks we traded for him couldn’t have done it this year, or next.

    Even though I was as bitter as anyone when TG left, I think bringing him back was a good move. And the money it cost was chump change in today’s market. He will eat innings and help the young pitchers. Welcome home, TG.

    The trade with Detroit was super. I was crazy about Edgar but Yunnel is ready and Jerjens may be the ace of the staff before THIS season is over.

    I think we have enough arms to make a good BP and there may be a closer there if Soriono continues to be sore. If Hampton pitches only part time it will be a huge +.

    My worries right now are BigMac and KJ. Reports from ST(more recent than Lew’s and Grinches’)say they are both doing a good imitation of 2007 Andruw, flailing away at bad pitches. We need both of them to get their stuff in one bag and carry their share. I think Frenchy will do fine.

    I like the rooks and, if they are ready, I hope they get their chance. But you don’t hone your skills sitting on a big-league bench. I’d rather have them at Richmond, playing.

    Anyway, in keeping with today’s lead(Good ‘un Bob)I have devoted this post entirely to baseball. Don’t expect it to be a habit.

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  24. 24 BeRiGaN 3 tHe SeArCh FoR rOcK March 11, 2008 at 2:00 pm

    Paladin, you are right about the trade with the Tigers being super….Honestly, I don’t even know why they did it, (Not that I am complaining, mind you! 🙂 )was a lack of offense, the reason the Tigers didn’t make it to the WS last year??? Why trade a starter like Jurrjens and a hot prospect like Gorkys??? I guess it’s a win it all move, and if it works, they can pat themselves on the back. But, I’d imagine they would have done pretty well with Jair in their rotation….

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  25. 25 chrisklob March 11, 2008 at 2:01 pm

    Paladin, I think in all fairness we may not truly be able to analyze who “won” the Tex trade for several years. We know what we got out of Mahay and we know that we will get a 1st round supplemental pick (#38 overall) since he left. What we don’t know yet is this: Will Tex take the Braves to the WS? Will the Braves be able to retain him? If he leaves, who will the Braves draft with the two draft picks that they will gain? If any of these three potential draftees turn into a star it will certainly affect the decision about who “won” that trade. I think that if the answer to either of both of the first questions is “Yes” then it was a good trade.

    The other side of the issue is what kind of careers the five players sent away will have. The road to the majors is littered with the names of guys who were highly regarded top prospects. The road to stardom in the majors includes many more. Only once it is determined how these five players fare in the bigs will we be able to judge JS’ last major trade.

    Don’t forget, JS had a strong, very strong ability to know when to sell high and maximize his return. His track record wasn’t absolutely perfect but his win/loss ratio is higher than just about any other GM out there.

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  26. 26 BeRiGaN 3 tHe SeArCh FoR rOcK March 11, 2008 at 2:32 pm

    Speaking of former braves prospects….just checked in on Elvis Andrus and others on the Rangers MLB site. Elvis was 4 for 14(.375) but they sent him and most of their top prospects to their minor league camp. Almost sounds like they may send Salty down, though he has a homer, and a triple and is hitting .267….Matt Harrison hasn’t been too impressive in his 6 innings, 10 hits and a 5.68 ERA….early still….

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  27. 27 Bob, journalist March 11, 2008 at 3:19 pm

    Thanks for the kind words … while those are the rule rather than the exception, they’re always appreciated and nice to see … like Bradley said of Patton, a headline is worth another 50 miles!

    I guess most women think alike … I wrote “Infante is difantely our super sub” and “MyLady” changed it to “Infante is definitely our super sub” … which is what Carol did when I asked her to proof it … goodness!

    Gil, I think that most folks agree that going down to the minors is not always a bad thing … and that those failing to make the squad out of Spring Training should be encouraged to view the process in a positive manner … methinks those who don’t usually find themselves wishing they had.

    The mentality with which I have the greatest problem is that those who do make the team bring a fully developed and honed skill set … and are evaluated in terms of current performance rather than potential … the focus seems to change to one of adjusting as weaknesses are recognized and exploited by the opposition … rather than the continuation of the developmental process. While both are essential, focusing on one at the expense of the other is a major contributor to the problem of players failing to meet expectations and/or realizing potential.

    Methinks there are advantages as well as problems associated with promising young players making the team as a bench player … we see the player for perhaps four hours each day … taking batting practice and his time in the game or watching the action. That leaves twenty … and it’s up to management to see that they’re well used … it’s up to them to decide what’s best for young Sammons but, one would think that playing every fifth day with four days dedicated to reflection and skill development would perhaps be a good thing, if not better than playing every every day … depending on how it’s orchestrated.

    Berigan raises another mindset or “mentality” issue regarding young players … “does he have anything else to prove in the minors???” … what Lillibridge or any young player “has to prove” may just be that they are better than anyone else in the organization at their position, … that they are the organization’s best option at the moment, or the potential for so becoming. Sometimes it’s unfortunate but such tests are usually graded on the curve.

    Sir Guy, I too am a Javy supporter … for a multitude of reasons and expect that he will make the club … and that we may well carry three catchers … but, given all that has been said regarding his preparation, I would have expected a better start.

    My “above the neck” concerns with Kotsay related primarily to his back problems and what he experienced last year. I’ve yet to see a player not experience some such problems when returning from significant physical adversity … and it’s frequently exacerbated when problems are encountered as a result of trying to do too much too soon … it can take many forms, including fear of failure/injury.

    Happy birthday Scribe … hopefully, my comments didn’t suggest a fixed 6 man rotation. We’ll see how the outfield picture unfolds but, I would like to see Matt playing every day and the two youngsters receiving the most playing time in Center.

    The Good, the Bad and the Ugly … sometimes hard to know which is which.

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  28. 28 Salty March 11, 2008 at 3:20 pm

    Klobber…lay off the KC and quit preachin’ patience! For cryin’ out loud, don’t you know this is an ‘instant gratification’ world we live in! We want it NOW…NOW! Patience is for dead folk! 😆

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  29. 29 paladin2008 March 11, 2008 at 3:31 pm

    Salt it down, NaCL, salt it down. We’ll eat it this winter, after it cures. 😀

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  30. 30 paladin2008 March 11, 2008 at 3:33 pm

    NaCL(y). I’ll bet you have been called worse. I know I have. 🙄

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  31. 31 chrisklob March 11, 2008 at 4:47 pm

    Klobber…lay off the KC

    NEVER!

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  32. 32 Carolina Lady March 11, 2008 at 6:14 pm

    Braves on MLB.TV tonight 7:05

    Tomorrow afternoon, Braves on MLB.TV FREE PREVIEW

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  33. 34 paladin2008 March 11, 2008 at 6:39 pm

    You really have to be absent-minded to lose a testicle.

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  34. 35 Bob, journalist March 11, 2008 at 6:40 pm

    From Bowman’s interview with Hudson … “I just consider myself one of the guys at the top of the rotation who is going to give my team a chance to win. Whoever it is I’m pitching against, I feel like I’m going to win. You have to be like that. You have to feel like you’re going to win regardless of who you’re pitching against or who is on the mound against you

    That bespeaks another mentality … well, sorta … it’s a team game and you’re pitching against their hitters, not their pitcher.

    My Lady … like Carl Perkins sang in 1957, “You got the right string baby but the wrong yo-yo” … the cost of MLB.TV is less of an issue than is the fact that home games are blacked out in Nashville since we’re only 5 hours from The Ted when traffic isn’t a problem.

    Of course, the game’s on FSN tonight … if Comcast doesn’t usurp the channel for local programming.

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  35. 36 journalist jimmy smith March 11, 2008 at 6:57 pm

    journalist bob’s absence has been explained – writing for weeks to produce the lead. and what a lead! journalism.

    and now, jimmy smith has this to say about the following statement found in the link provided by carolina lady: “The surgery involves sewing the outer layer of the testicle to the scrotum wall. The Cubs said it was a minor procedure, and if the problem was not corrected soon, Pie would risk losing the testicle.”

    first, oh, the humanity! second, ouch! third, minor procedure only if not the patient. last, sewed in and still can lose? hmmm… would not wish to find this lost testicle.

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  36. 37 Bob, journalist March 11, 2008 at 7:16 pm

    As I suspected, we get to watch the Nashville Predators … American League, right?

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  37. 38 Voice of Raisins March 11, 2008 at 7:33 pm

    Hello, Bob. I’m glad you’re feeling better. Fantastic lead, good sir. 😀

    I’ve been out all day and have just had a chance to check in. I’m gonna catch up on all the daily grind…

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  38. 39 paladin2008 March 11, 2008 at 8:16 pm

    These guys like Spitzer really amaze me. If you are a high-profile, kick-a$$ type of guy(or gal), do you think that people are not going to look in every closet and under every skirt to nail you? And in this day it is so easily done! He graduated from Princeton and Harvard Law School giving him some of the best academic credentials, but he must have the brain of a gnat.

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  39. 40 paladin2008 March 11, 2008 at 8:30 pm

    I saw where Salvia may be the next Mary Jane. So, I thought to myself, why not try it while it is legal? Then, I saw this:

    “salvia is a hallucinogen that gives users an out-of-body sense of traveling through time and space or merging with inanimate objects. Unlike hallucinogens like LSD or PCP, however, salvia’s effects last for a shorter time, generally up to an hour.”

    I spent the better part of my adult life trying to avoid merging myself with inanimate objects, and I’ll be damned if I’m goint to smoke something that makes that happen. Pour me another KC, Klobber, and let’s stay legal, even if we are drunk–and not driving. Remember, however: Don’t drink and drive. You might hit a bump and spill something. 😀

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  40. 41 paladin2008 March 11, 2008 at 8:31 pm

    And pretty soon, I’m goint to bed, too.

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  41. 42 paladin2008 March 11, 2008 at 8:45 pm

    A geologic mapping project led to the finding of a 10 million-year-old fossil that’s now being studied at the New Mexico Museum of Natural History and Science. It is the fossilized remains of an “oreodant”. That does it! The next time I get peeved at Bob, I’m going to call him an oreodant. NOT REALLY!!! Just joshing you Bob. Don’t get peeved with me.

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  42. 43 Gil in Mechanicsville March 11, 2008 at 8:54 pm

    Pie’s proceedure could make Schilling’s bloody sock look mild in comparison…

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  43. 44 paladin2008 March 11, 2008 at 8:55 pm

    Who’s pitching for the Nats tonight—Walter Johnson?

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  44. 45 paladin2008 March 11, 2008 at 8:56 pm

    Gil, Are you “live”, or is that a recording?

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  45. 46 paladin2008 March 11, 2008 at 9:04 pm

    Well, one thing about this place, if you get tired of talking to yourself you can watch them do autopsies.

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  46. 47 journalist jimmy smith March 11, 2008 at 9:04 pm

    and who will sew this? not something jimmy smith would want to sew. could lace it up like a baseball glove – or a shoe. if the cubs don’t sew it, felix pie could lose it. much like a button, only different. panic button. new meaning to button nose. red buttons. pinky lee. journalist bob.

    and a blossom watch is underway. still no blossom, but jimmy smith is watching cnn.

    and seems funny some democrats being upset because an entire race of people voted one way. duh! no more politics from jimmy smith. ugandan politics, maybe, if anything.

    and chop seal has made friends with peter moylan and is taking up some habits of the sidearming reliever. more later.

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  47. 48 Savannah Guy March 11, 2008 at 9:07 pm

    Paladin… oreodant? Did they twist off the outer crust to find a milky white interior? Maybe they rubbed it under their arms for that manly fossil scent?

    Watching the Bravos on FSN. What a treat to watch guys we’ve been just reading about. They all look good. Kelly made a great play at second… going to his right! Looks like he’s gained a step and also some power with the bat. Glavine looked like Glavine. Good… like ice. Javy is struggling with the bat. They had interviews with McCann, Glavin and Kelly. Good vibes.

    All in all, the boys look good.

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  48. 49 paladin2008 March 11, 2008 at 9:08 pm

    I’m locked up in a morgue with jjs. Hell, I could do worse. 😀

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  49. 50 paladin2008 March 11, 2008 at 9:10 pm

    Who opened up SG’s locker? 😀

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  50. 51 Savannah Guy March 11, 2008 at 9:10 pm

    End of 7th, Nats 2 Bravos zippo. But… we have’em right where we want’em.

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  51. 52 paladin2008 March 11, 2008 at 9:12 pm

    And SG, how do they look so good if they are losing 2-0? Or, am I tuned to the wrong box score?

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  52. 53 Savannah Guy March 11, 2008 at 9:14 pm

    Damn Paladin… you saw my post? That means they’re not invisible after all. Oh…

    Hey, watch that salvia stuff. You could wind up tuning in, turning on and dropping out. For an hour anyway. Cheap thrills. Maybe listen to a little Moody Blues too.

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  53. 54 Savannah Guy March 11, 2008 at 9:17 pm

    They do look good, just not a great night with the bats. But it’s spring training. Pitching and defense is what I pay most attention to this time of year. The hits and runs will come when it counts.

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  54. 55 journalist jimmy smith March 11, 2008 at 9:18 pm

    is salvia the same as drool?

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  55. 56 paladin2008 March 11, 2008 at 9:19 pm

    SG; When I first saw salvia, I read “saliva”. I thought swapping spit, now that’s my style. Depending, of course, on who you swap it with.

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  56. 57 paladin2008 March 11, 2008 at 9:20 pm

    This is scary. jjs and I are on the same page.

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  57. 58 journalist jimmy smith March 11, 2008 at 9:21 pm

    paladin must have a — post if on the same page.

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  58. 59 Savannah Guy March 11, 2008 at 9:22 pm

    Acosta is on the mound now. Sammons behind the plate.

    Out 1: swinging strikeout.

    Out 2: swinging K

    Manny winds up… weak grounder to Lillibridge…

    3 up, 3 down.

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  59. 60 Savannah Guy March 11, 2008 at 9:23 pm

    swapping spit with Grace Slick?

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  60. 61 paladin2008 March 11, 2008 at 9:23 pm

    Nasal residue. Otherwise, CL is going to have to build a high-rise dog house.

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  61. 62 Voice of Raisins March 11, 2008 at 9:25 pm

    I think that Joe Simpson and Boog Schiambi sound like they are in midseason form… Can say Boog Schiambi?

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  62. 63 paladin2008 March 11, 2008 at 9:26 pm

    I’m not familiar with Grace Slick but I have said Grace over some disasters in my time.

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  63. 64 lew614 March 11, 2008 at 9:26 pm

    Nights In White Satin and whatnot.

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  64. 65 paladin2008 March 11, 2008 at 9:30 pm

    Lew; That is even less politically correct than Boog Schiambi.

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  65. 66 Savannah Guy March 11, 2008 at 9:33 pm

    Bottom 8 – Braves up: Munoz on the mound for Nats.

    Out 1: Bouchard popout to Langy

    Walk: Lillibridge

    Stormin’ Thorman at the plate.

    bothched pickoff, Lil-B to 2nd

    Out 2: Thor softly lines to first.

    Josh Anderson walks.

    Two on, two out…

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  66. 67 paladin2008 March 11, 2008 at 9:34 pm

    Tell me more, Daddy; tell me more.

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  67. 68 Savannah Guy March 11, 2008 at 9:35 pm

    Raisins, Joe and Boog are wandering all over the place but rarely in the ballpark. They’re in training too I s’poze.

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  68. 69 Voice of Raisins March 11, 2008 at 9:35 pm

    Yeah… but they do that in midseason!

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  69. 70 Voice of Raisins March 11, 2008 at 9:37 pm

    Actually, I like Joe and Boog. They do wander, but they usually keep up wih the action, and their wanderings are usually informative, entertaining and mostly relevant.

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  70. 71 Savannah Guy March 11, 2008 at 9:38 pm

    Ayala on the mound for the Nats:

    Hernandez at the plate…

    Two ducks on the pond… time for a hit.

    Full count…

    Out three: grounder to short.

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  71. 72 paladin2008 March 11, 2008 at 9:38 pm

    SG; Play-by-play not eon-by-eon.

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  72. 73 Voice of Raisins March 11, 2008 at 9:40 pm

    I would hate to be so far down the line that I wore #98 and had no name sewn on…

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  73. 74 Savannah Guy March 11, 2008 at 9:41 pm

    Raisins, yes and yes.

    Thing is, it’s the title crawler, player at bat/average/etc. that is MIA.

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  74. 75 Voice of Raisins March 11, 2008 at 9:42 pm

    Pete Orr… Canadian, eh?

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  75. 76 Savannah Guy March 11, 2008 at 9:42 pm

    Paladin… hush up. I’m doing this like Frank Sinatra… my way.

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  76. 77 journalist jimmy smith March 11, 2008 at 9:43 pm

    pete orr! pete orr!

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  77. 78 paladin2008 March 11, 2008 at 9:43 pm

    2 ducks on a pond is poor utilization of available waterfowl space. Let’s get the green people on this. No, not Grinch. He’ll shoot ’em.

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  78. 79 Voice of Raisins March 11, 2008 at 9:43 pm

    Dudes in the truck are smokin’ salvia…

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  79. 80 Savannah Guy March 11, 2008 at 9:46 pm

    Top 9:

    Langy somehow got to first (while P was distracting me!!!)

    Out 1: Pete Orr at bat! Lines out to right center.

    Base hit by Lopez. Two on…

    Brett Boone at bat. (Washington is Braves redux).

    Brett has slimmed down and doesn’t look nearly as cocky.

    Boone pops out to Prado at second.

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  80. 81 paladin2008 March 11, 2008 at 9:46 pm

    A pete orr is what is located in the vicinity of Mr. Pie’s problem.

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  81. 82 Savannah Guy March 11, 2008 at 9:48 pm

    2 outs, 2 on…

    swinging strikeout to whathisname rookie.

    score remains, 2-zip, Nats.

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  82. 83 chrisklob March 11, 2008 at 9:51 pm

    Speaking of smokin’, this one’s a little bit of a surprise…..

    http://www.cnn.com/2008/SHOWBIZ/TV/03/11/dawn.wells.ap/index.html

    Shoulda stuck with the salvia.

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  83. 84 chrisklob March 11, 2008 at 9:52 pm

    Paladin, I’m surprised to see you up still.

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  84. 85 Savannah Guy March 11, 2008 at 9:53 pm

    Bottom 9… the pressure is on. Will we come through?

    Out 1: no idea who poped out to center… we were looking at Boog pictures the whole time.

    Now they’re talking about other games coming this week. Have no idea who was batting or how they got to first.

    Blanco at bat…

    Single to left… runners at 1st and second.

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  85. 86 Savannah Guy March 11, 2008 at 9:55 pm

    Sammons at bat…0-2 count…

    One out, tying runs aboard…

    It’s getting intense. Sweaty palms. Slimy keyboard… what will happen next?

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  86. 87 paladin2008 March 11, 2008 at 9:56 pm

    Mary Ann got busted for doing Mary Jane. And Klobber, I’m surprised to see me up, too. But I just couldnt tear myself away from SG’s play-by-shooting.

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  87. 88 Savannah Guy March 11, 2008 at 9:57 pm

    Chopper to Ayala, pitch to first, runners advance, tying run to scoring position..

    Two outs…

    will they do it?

    Meeting on the mound……….

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  88. 89 Savannah Guy March 11, 2008 at 9:58 pm

    Borchard at bat…

    C’mon big dude…

    count 3-0…

    Lil-B on deck…

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  89. 90 Voice of Raisins March 11, 2008 at 9:59 pm

    jjs: Remember the name Joe Borchard?

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  90. 91 Savannah Guy March 11, 2008 at 9:59 pm

    Now it’s 3-2 count…Mighty Casey drives a base hit to center to tie the game.

    Yay!!!! (Oh, how unprofessional of me)

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  91. 92 journalist jimmy smith March 11, 2008 at 10:00 pm

    remember the name joe borchard.

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  92. 93 Savannah Guy March 11, 2008 at 10:01 pm

    Lil-B comes up to bat, The Big Borch at first.

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  93. 94 journalist jimmy smith March 11, 2008 at 10:01 pm

    more rbi’s than thorman in 3 months.

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  94. 95 paladin2008 March 11, 2008 at 10:01 pm

    Will there be a quiz?

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  95. 96 Savannah Guy March 11, 2008 at 10:02 pm

    0-3 count. Who’s on deck? No, what’s on first? Uh…

    Dammit…. Lil-B grounds out to third on an 0-3 count. He’s behaving like a rookie. Oh, uh…

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  96. 97 Savannah Guy March 11, 2008 at 10:02 pm

    Free baseball.

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  97. 98 Voice of Raisins March 11, 2008 at 10:03 pm

    They may be going extra, but I’m callin’ it a night.

    It’s a night. 😀

    G’night all…

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  98. 99 chrisklob March 11, 2008 at 10:04 pm

    0-3 count. That must be the “new math” that all the kids are talking about.

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  99. 100 Voice of Raisins March 11, 2008 at 10:04 pm

    Hey! There’s a #98 with a name. That’s a name?

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  100. 101 paladin2008 March 11, 2008 at 10:05 pm

    Usually by this time, I’ve gotten up to walk my bladder at least twice.

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  101. 102 Voice of Raisins March 11, 2008 at 10:06 pm

    Bunny slippers off. Head hitting pillow…

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  102. 103 chrisklob March 11, 2008 at 10:07 pm

    Kinda funny seeing all the Braves castoffs over there in Nats uniforms.

    Too bad they don’t need a first baseman. We got one they can have.

    I see they have Orr. Did they sign Woodward yet?

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  103. 104 chrisklob March 11, 2008 at 10:07 pm

    #98 sure has a funky windup.

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  104. 105 Savannah Guy March 11, 2008 at 10:09 pm

    Pitching… Rolenborstenhaimerslimmersnacken

    Out 1: smoking, sining liner to Lil-B

    Willie Harris at bat. More ex-Braves… strikes out swangin’.

    Three and out for, uh…Braves longname rookie pitcher guy. Longest name since Saltalammacchia. Ain’t fair…

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  105. 106 Savannah Guy March 11, 2008 at 10:11 pm

    I’ll pass the baton to Chris to finish the play calling…

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  106. 107 paladin2008 March 11, 2008 at 10:11 pm

    Maybe he has a twist. That can really mess up your windup and gettyup, too.

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  107. 108 Savannah Guy March 11, 2008 at 10:13 pm

    0-3 count… I went all Don Sutton on that.

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  108. 109 paladin2008 March 11, 2008 at 10:13 pm

    SG; Don’t ever do play-by-play when you are drinking white russians, again.

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  109. 110 chrisklob March 11, 2008 at 10:13 pm

    Wait, what?

    Okay here goes.

    Thorman singles up the middle on a 3-2 count. Schaffer pinch running

    Anderson drops successful bunt. Thor to second. 1 out.

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  110. 111 chrisklob March 11, 2008 at 10:14 pm

    Aw crap. Hernandez hits one thru the right side. Schaffer called OUT at the plate. 2 out.

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  111. 112 chrisklob March 11, 2008 at 10:15 pm

    Langy was the one that threw him out by the way.

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  112. 113 paladin2008 March 11, 2008 at 10:15 pm

    You are seeing double. Particularly when you try to read player’s names.

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  113. 114 chrisklob March 11, 2008 at 10:15 pm

    Looks like the Nats are out of pitchers. Their current pitcher, Crawford, may be hurt. If he can’t go, they may end the game now.

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  114. 115 Savannah Guy March 11, 2008 at 10:16 pm

    Hernandez get’s a hit…

    Langy just threw Shafer out sliding home… dagg blastit!!!

    two out, tying run at second…

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  115. 116 chrisklob March 11, 2008 at 10:16 pm

    0-3 count… I went all Don Sutton on that.

    BUSTED!

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  116. 117 Savannah Guy March 11, 2008 at 10:17 pm

    Oh, the baton was taken… overlap is better than going all Heidi/Dan Rather…

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  117. 118 chrisklob March 11, 2008 at 10:17 pm

    Brandon Jones at bat. Hernandez at second. 2 out. Tie score.

    Jones walks on 4 pitches. Men at first and second.

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  118. 119 flbravesgirl March 11, 2008 at 10:18 pm

    And y’all think Joe & Boog “wander around”?

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  119. 120 chrisklob March 11, 2008 at 10:19 pm

    Martin Prado at bat. Hits to SS Lopez who bobbles it. Everyone safe. Bases loaded. 2 out.

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  120. 121 paladin2008 March 11, 2008 at 10:20 pm

    Thank you FBG. I was beginning to think it was me who is drunk.

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  121. 122 Savannah Guy March 11, 2008 at 10:20 pm

    Paladin… I’m doing just as good as Boog and Joe. 🙂

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  122. 123 chrisklob March 11, 2008 at 10:21 pm

    Gregor Blanco at bat. Sharply hit grounder to Boone. Out at first. End of the 10th inning. 2-2.

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  123. 124 paladin2008 March 11, 2008 at 10:21 pm

    False praise, indeed.

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  124. 125 flbravesgirl March 11, 2008 at 10:21 pm

    Actually I love Joe & Boog. They do a good job calling the game & when they do wander it’s usually quite amusing.

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  125. 126 Savannah Guy March 11, 2008 at 10:24 pm

    I’d rather add color anyway.

    Going to the 11th. This seems like a typical mid-season game. Go Bravolistas.

    I’m retiring for the evening. No bunny slippers. I can’t believe Raisins still sleeps in that bunny PJ outfit. I grew out of that…

    last month.

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  126. 127 chrisklob March 11, 2008 at 10:24 pm

    Top of the 11th. Damian Moss pitching for Los Bravos. Tyler Flowers at 1st.

    Garret Guzman at bat for Nats. Weakly hit grounder to 1b. 1 out.

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  127. 128 chrisklob March 11, 2008 at 10:24 pm

    SG, I’ll bet your jammies still have the little flap in the back!

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  128. 129 chrisklob March 11, 2008 at 10:25 pm

    Langerhans at bat. He hammers one back up through the middle. Wish he could have done that more often last year.

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  129. 130 Savannah Guy March 11, 2008 at 10:25 pm

    We’ve established… everyone loves Boog and Joe. And Paladins bladder is larger than he thought. Better bladder than the latter…

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  130. 131 paladin2008 March 11, 2008 at 10:26 pm

    Please hurry and end this. My dog thinks I died and somebody propped me up at the computer.

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  131. 132 chrisklob March 11, 2008 at 10:27 pm

    Pete Orr at bat. Langy at first. ONe out.

    Sammons can’t handle a pitch in the dirt. Langy to second.

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  132. 133 Savannah Guy March 11, 2008 at 10:28 pm

    No Klobber, no jammies, but yes… kept the flap. Taped it to my back for old times sake. Habits die hard.

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  133. 134 paladin2008 March 11, 2008 at 10:28 pm

    Yes Klobber, and he drops that flap when coming in for a landing. :mrgreen:

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  134. 135 Savannah Guy March 11, 2008 at 10:28 pm

    Paladin, late breakfast at Bernies?

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  135. 136 chrisklob March 11, 2008 at 10:29 pm

    Orr slices one to RF and it’s caught. 2 out.

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  136. 137 chrisklob March 11, 2008 at 10:29 pm

    SOrry that went to LF. You know, the “other” right.

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  137. 138 chrisklob March 11, 2008 at 10:30 pm

    Felipe Lopez at bat. Soft dribbler to PRado at 2b. Out at first. ENd of top of 11th inning.

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  138. 139 paladin2008 March 11, 2008 at 10:30 pm

    Hell, it will be my lunch time by the time this thing is over.

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  139. 140 Savannah Guy March 11, 2008 at 10:32 pm

    You guys are keeping me up too late. Good night, sleep tight and don’t let the, you know.

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  140. 141 chrisklob March 11, 2008 at 10:32 pm

    Paladin, tell your dog to hold his water.

    SG, you still doing the color or did you brush your little teethies and go tinkle and go to bed?

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  141. 142 paladin2008 March 11, 2008 at 10:33 pm

    I’m staying up for the Bravos’ bat, then that’s it!

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  142. 143 chrisklob March 11, 2008 at 10:33 pm

    Lots of empty seats at the stadium.

    Steve Shell is the new pitcher for the Nats. Sammons rips one to left. Very long single for Sammons.

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  143. 144 paladin2008 March 11, 2008 at 10:35 pm

    Klobber; He puts his little teethies in the jug and let’s the magic bubbles do the trick.

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  144. 145 flbravesgirl March 11, 2008 at 10:36 pm

    Shell is not the most fortuitous name for a pitcher.

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  145. 146 paladin2008 March 11, 2008 at 10:37 pm

    You “shock” me, FBG.

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  146. 147 chrisklob March 11, 2008 at 10:38 pm

    Javier Guzman pinch runs for Sammons.

    Borchard at bat. He had the two run single earlier that tied the game. Blame him for staying up so late.

    Borchard has a good at bat. Unfortunately he strikes out and Guzman gets thrown out trying to steal 2b.

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  147. 148 chrisklob March 11, 2008 at 10:40 pm

    Lilly at bat. I wonder if Chipper’s gonna show him how to shave when the time comes?

    Lilly strikes out. Inning over.

    Game over. 2-2.

    BRAVES TIE!!! BRAVES TIE!!! BRAVES TIE!!!

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  148. 149 paladin2008 March 11, 2008 at 10:40 pm

    GOODNIGHT S & G BLOG!!!

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  149. 150 chrisklob March 11, 2008 at 10:41 pm

    The fireworks went off. Now Bobby Cox and Acta are conferring with the umpires. Maybe we’ll go one more. Stay tuned.

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  150. 151 chrisklob March 11, 2008 at 10:41 pm

    Nope, it’s officially over now.

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  151. 152 flbravesgirl March 11, 2008 at 10:47 pm

    Thanks for the play-by-play, Chris & SG!

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  152. 153 chrisklob March 11, 2008 at 10:50 pm

    You’re welcome fbg. Weren’t you able to watch the game? And how are you feeling?

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  153. 154 flbravesgirl March 11, 2008 at 11:12 pm

    I don’t get FSN, Chris. Well, I do but it’s the Florida version. Marlins & Rays, woo.

    Spent a large part of the day in bed but tonight I feel like I’m winning the battle against the flu.

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  154. 155 Bob, journalist March 11, 2008 at 11:27 pm

    journalist bob’s absence has been explained” … I had wondered about that myself! Writing for weeks to produce the lead … man, that was hard work but it just goes to show that a little dedication can overcome a big talent deficiency … Andruw Jones should be ashamed!

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  155. 156 chrisklob March 12, 2008 at 12:09 am

    Talent deficiency — my a–! You have more talent and knowledge in your little finger than I have in my ginormous dome Bob!

    Fbg, you should watch some Rays games. Something tells me that they are going to be pretty good this year. Not saying they can compete against NY and BOS but they should make things interesting. Might be a real spoiler this year for someone.

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  156. 157 flbravesgirl March 12, 2008 at 12:19 am

    I think they are going to be better. Of course, Baldelli’s hurt again . He makes Hampton look like an iron man. That said, I pay a lot to get ExtraInnings so I can watch the Braves. I watch every game. If I’m not home I record it. The only ones I miss are when I’m in Rabun (no TV yet up there) so I listen on the radio. No time for the Rays.

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  157. 158 flbravesgirl March 12, 2008 at 12:20 am

    OK, only “again” was supposed to be in italics. Not sure what happened there.

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  158. 159 flbravesgirl March 12, 2008 at 12:42 am

    You know, I’m not contagious over the computer. Y’all didn’t have to leave. It’s a good thing we’re typing instead of talking though, I sound terrible.

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  159. 160 chrisklob March 12, 2008 at 12:48 am

    But I’m sure you still look good though! Sorry, I was over yonder, protecting my self from and idiot.

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  160. 161 flbravesgirl March 12, 2008 at 12:53 am

    After 3 days of this I probably look a little rough too.

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  161. 162 chrisklob March 12, 2008 at 12:58 am

    There you go again…….

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  162. 163 flbravesgirl March 12, 2008 at 1:04 am

    Chris, nobody looks their best after 3 days of flu.

    Sort of on that subject, a little restaurant near the house in Rabun had the greatest slogan on the back of the servers’ shirts: “Good cookin’ makes ya good lookin’.” I should get that printed on an apron. (Sadly they closed. The owner/chef couldn’t keep up with the demand. It’s a shame. She’s a very nice lady, the food was incredible & it was literally down the road from us.)

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  163. 164 flbravesgirl March 12, 2008 at 1:08 am

    After 1 ?! My book is calling. Good night, Chris!

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  164. 165 chrisklob March 12, 2008 at 1:11 am

    Good night sunshine! Enjoy your book!

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  165. 166 Bob, journalist March 12, 2008 at 1:18 am

    nobody looks their best after 3 days of flu” … can’t really tell much difference … but, now that you’ve said it, I’m afraid to put on my glasses.

    Braves player representative Jeff Francoeur said Tuesday’s session included discussion about the potential pitfalls of using blood tests to determine who is currently using HGH … why do those boys need to know the potential pitfalls … or who’s currently cheating?

    What they need to know is how to improve their skill sets and how to best opposing pitchers without cheating … did Fehr talk about that?

    Player representative Francoeur a piece of work in progress, methinks.

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  166. 167 Bob, journalist March 12, 2008 at 1:36 am

    You have more talent and knowledge in your little finger than I have in my ginormous dome Bob!” … it amazing, the stuff you can learn by reading the Blog … I’ve been looking and looking all over the place … and all the time they were in my little finger … maybe that’s your problem too Chris … looking in the wrong place … my dome isn’t ginormous but x-rays indicate nothing but muddy water.

    Good night and God Bless!

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  167. 168 Gil in Mechanicsville March 12, 2008 at 3:13 am

    “Torn between two lovers, feeling like a fool….”

    Yes, what better outcome for a conflicted Braves/Nats fan? 🙂

    Of course when it’s just the big boys playing, things can end up differently. Let’s hope the Nationals give the Mets fits this year… Joel Hanrahan.. Who would have thunk it?

    Oh by the way, greetings from beautiful Va Beach… The weather is perfect and the hotel wonderful, net results on my sleeping pattern remain unchanged…

    Again Bob, wonderful blog lead in. Just what we needed to stimulate conversation about baseball….

    Methinks (can say that?) that Jimmy Smith must have ESPN to predict Joe Borchard’s emergence at spring training. Too bad he doesn’t play first base. Bobby Cox about Thor not trying to hit 700 foot home runs tells us that he either sees the obvious or reads the blogs too…

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  168. 169 Voice of Raisins March 12, 2008 at 7:58 am

    …zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz…

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  169. 170 BeRiGaN 3 tHe SeArCh FoR rOcK March 12, 2008 at 8:30 am

    Hey look! A bunch of N’s fell on their side!

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  170. 171 journalist jimmy smith March 12, 2008 at 8:32 am

    gil, if bobby cox is reading this blog . . . jimmy smith would like to say that all this talk of nose picking is in poor taste and jimmy smith hopes it will soon end. maybe if the nose picking ends, the nose picking talk will end as well. makes jimmy smith’s stomach lining twist.

    joe borchard is not disappointing this journalist. still, joe borchard likely will not make the team coming out of camp. what is so hard about playing first base? learn the footwork and scoop the ball. old guys get moved there. mathews, aaron, and chipper, eventually.

    it is refreshing that the bloggers hear can have different thoughts on this team and express those thoughts and not be talked down to by a know-it-all beet writer. “well, every beet writer and every manager and every coach must be wrong then, right?” yep, sometimes.

    journalist bob makes a good observation about player representative francoeur . . . indeed a piece of work in progress.

    remember that the team spokesman may be the player that speaks words the beet writer can, you know, spell.

    and journalists everywhere are taking note of the play-by-play talent on this blog. much talent hear. good use of sentence structure much like jimmy smith. good insight. good description: 0-3 count not heard everywhere. braves and stuff original.

    and it is a beautiful day and jimmy smith must write blossom back.

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  171. 173 BeRiGaN 3 tHe SeArCh FoR rOcK March 12, 2008 at 8:38 am

    JJS, I just looked up Joe Borchard’s stats…. .205 career hitter! Hit .196 last year, and struck out 60 times in a 176 AB’s! Yet, when he bats, he looks much better at the plate than Pete Orr or Woodcrud…why is this???

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  172. 174 BeRiGaN 3 tHe SeArCh FoR rOcK March 12, 2008 at 8:47 am

    Very interesting story JJS!!!!
    I found this part particularly interesting….if not a bit confusing…
    “It probably was the smart thing to do,” Cox said. “But every one of us in the organization voted no on the trade. We couldn’t bear to lose him.”

    So, then there never really was a trade, and it’s all a just a big mistake????

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  173. 175 Voice of Raisins March 12, 2008 at 9:11 am

    … where’s my coffee?

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  174. 176 Voice of Raisins March 12, 2008 at 9:12 am

    (sound of yawning…) G’morning, fellow B&Sians.

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  175. 177 BeRiGaN 3 tHe SeArCh FoR rOcK March 12, 2008 at 9:17 am

    Good morning VOR! You, or someone pretending to be you posted at 7:58….
    I watched a movie and fell asleep early, so I missed the game….those who saw it, what did you think of the newbies???

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  176. 178 chrisklob March 12, 2008 at 9:19 am

    Berigan, regarding your 8.47, that vote was taken DURING the season. They could have traded at that time rather than in October when they actually did trade him.

    Nice article journalist jimmy smith. I always heard Renty was a quality human being. It’s nice to read about it too.

    How go things with Blossom? Perhaps if there were a way to commission someone to make a red velvet cake and then have someone else delivery it…. Surely you would win her over then!

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  177. 179 Voice of Raisins March 12, 2008 at 9:22 am

    B3, how was the sleep?

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  178. 180 paladin2008 March 12, 2008 at 9:36 am

    GOOD MORNING VIETNAM and B & S blog(gers).

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  179. 181 paladin2008 March 12, 2008 at 9:38 am

    I’m afraid that the suicide of the “person of interest” means that closure is near in the Calvert matter. I know all of us dread the obvious, but closure will bring…closure.

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  180. 182 BeRiGaN 3 tHe SeArCh FoR rOcK March 12, 2008 at 9:41 am

    Chris…oh…you have to admit, these are a few poorly written sentences, ain’t they????

    The Braves had a chance to trade Renteria during the season last year.

    “It probably was the smart thing to do,” Cox said. “But every one of us in the organization voted no on the trade. We couldn’t bear to lose him.”

    Still, a combination of circumstances allowed the Tigers swoop in and land him.

    So, Bobby is saying it was probably the smart thing to , to have traded him during the season, and yet they didn’t??? I guess more of the problem is with the writer, than Bobby’s lack of making sense sometimes…

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  181. 183 BeRiGaN 3 tHe SeArCh FoR rOcK March 12, 2008 at 9:43 am

    VOR, since you asked(And thanks for asking)….. I had two pretty good nights in a row, and last night, I slept about 5 hours…not great…but better than 3-4 hour rut I was in for several days…..

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  182. 184 chrisklob March 12, 2008 at 9:46 am

    Berigan, yes, some of those sentences could certainly have been worded more efficiently.

    As far as Cox saying that it was “probably the smart thing to do”, bear in mind that he’s making this comment in hindsight. I’d be curious to know what sort of offers they had received last year and how much better or worse they might have been than the deal they took.

    Paladin, I saw that article just a few minutes ago about the death of the “person of interest”. Not good.

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  183. 185 Voice of Raisins March 12, 2008 at 9:52 am

    According to the reports I’ve read, the person of interest left behind 2 notes, the contents of which the authorities are not divulging. Said authorities are saying, however, that the notes “provide leads”. As was said, not good.

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  184. 186 journalist jimmy smith March 12, 2008 at 10:01 am

    don’t look too deep into the bobby cox interview . . . may be disappointed. now deep into the nose . . . another matter. stop at the elbow. and not all beet writers write beets well. chop seal is a rarity in many, many ways.

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  185. 187 Chop Seal March 12, 2008 at 10:05 am

    hello everbudy! yes, I aM a raritY in beet writing and i don’T have many beet writeR friends – but i do know the impOrtance of claritY.

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  186. 188 paladin2008 March 12, 2008 at 10:07 am

    Another news item: One out of four teenage girls have a STD! If that doesn’t scare the hell out of the younger generation(s), it should!

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  187. 189 chrisklob March 12, 2008 at 10:13 am

    Paladin, as the father of a girl about to enter her teens, IT SCARES THE HELL OUT OF ME!!!!!

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  188. 190 paladin2008 March 12, 2008 at 10:14 am

    chopper; Please clarify clarity. It is sort of like, “it depends on what the meaning of is, is.”

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  189. 191 paladin2008 March 12, 2008 at 10:19 am

    Klobber: I know it is not guarantee, but I believe that upbringing and preparation means so much and you strike me as one who will have accomplished(and continue to re-enforce)these important factors with your daughter. God speed.

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  190. 192 paladin2008 March 12, 2008 at 10:20 am

    “a”

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  191. 193 BeRiGaN 3 tHe SeArCh FoR rOcK March 12, 2008 at 10:27 am

    Fonzie, is that you????

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  192. 194 paladin2008 March 12, 2008 at 10:31 am

    Go back to bed, B3, you’re hallucinating.

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  193. 195 flbravesgirl March 12, 2008 at 10:36 am

    I think someone needs to do a better job of scaring the teenagers.

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  194. 196 BeRiGaN 3 tHe SeArCh FoR rOcK March 12, 2008 at 10:40 am

    Would this do??? I photographed this moth(I think it’s a moth) outside my window a few years back….

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  195. 197 chrisklob March 12, 2008 at 10:44 am

    Paladin, thank you for the kind words. We’ve worked hard to try to teach both of our children to make good choices in life. One can only hope and pray that the mistakes that their children make don’t have negative impact on their future!

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  196. 198 paladin2008 March 12, 2008 at 10:51 am

    FBG; I agree when you say “teenagers”. The solution MUST include a way to insure that males share accountability, and consequences. They will, ultimately, but Gil’s 2 X 4 has to be applied, liberally.

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  197. 199 paladin2008 March 12, 2008 at 10:56 am

    I’ve got to go, for now. I’m almost at the point of understanding B3. I’ve got to get back in touch with reality. 😀

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  198. 200 Voice of Raisins March 12, 2008 at 11:04 am

    My 12 year old son, close enough to teenage, understands my policy of discipline by numbers. Size 10 in the butt, or 5 across the lip. I believe in neither diplomacy nor negotiation with reference to keeping either of my kids in line.

    I firmly believe that if I don’t teach them the concept that actions bring consequences now, they’ll spend the rest of their lives learning it…

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  199. 201 Voice of Raisins March 12, 2008 at 11:08 am

    Now, baseball. If I recall correctly, today should be the day that the Braves braintrust begins making some roster adjustments. Speculation, anyone?

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  200. 202 chrisklob March 12, 2008 at 11:12 am

    I firmly believe that if I don’t teach them the concept that actions bring consequences now, they’ll spend the rest of their lives learning it…

    That is well stated. It amazes (and frustrates) me to no end to see other parents allow their children to do whatever they want, whenever they want. No rules, no restrictions, anything goes. What frustrates me about that is when my kids come home and wonder why they aren’t allowed the same liberties that some of their friends enjoy.

    Case in point: My son is now ten. One day when he was about eight, he came home and asked if he could see a movie with his friend who was seven. He told us the name of the movie and we promptly looked up the rating on the internet. It was rated “R”! We told him in no uncertain terms that he was not old enough to see it. His indignant response was that his seven year old friend had already seen it three times!

    Oh, and the “indignant” part of his response earned him an afternoon in his room.

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  201. 203 paladin2008 March 12, 2008 at 11:12 am

    Good for you, Raisins. I realize that “discipline” can be abused, as it apparently was in Lew’s “upbringing”; but tough LOVE never hurt anyone, and it has helped many. “Parenthood” is so easy to achieve, and so difficult to fulfill.

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  202. 204 Voice of Raisins March 12, 2008 at 11:12 am

    Francisley Bueno.

    I have no news or anything, I just like his name… Francisley Bueno.

    Kinda rolls off the tongue.

    Francisley Bueno.

    😀

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  203. 205 chrisklob March 12, 2008 at 11:15 am

    Berigan, by the way, your moth is a “luna moth”.

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  204. 206 paladin2008 March 12, 2008 at 11:17 am

    Now to baseball, before I leave. Raisins, I’m just not close enough to what has transpired in Orlando to know. But, I hope that the trades will outnumber the releases. As you know, we have several on the bubble who are out of options.

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  205. 207 chrisklob March 12, 2008 at 11:18 am

    Paladin, it has always amazed me that we have to take a test to be able to legally drive a motorized vehicle yet any moron with properly functioning equipment (not twisted?) can have children.

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  206. 208 Voice of Raisins March 12, 2008 at 11:19 am

    Seriously, I would never employ the “5 across the lip”, but we are tough on him. He’s a good kid, but at age 12, he just does dumb stuff of which he knows better. He’s constantly shooting himself in the foot. It drives me and Mrs. Raisins crazy. It seems that he has been constantly in trouble for something for several months… Yet, he really is a good kid.

    Just wait for age 12, Klobber, just wait…

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  207. 209 Voice of Raisins March 12, 2008 at 11:20 am

    Would twisted equipment yield twisted kids? Is that the genesis of Twisted Sister? What about the “twisted” emoticon? 😈

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  208. 210 BeRiGaN 3 tHe SeArCh FoR rOcK March 12, 2008 at 11:23 am

    VOR, glad to here you wouldn’t really use 5 across the lips! Spankings are fine, IMHO, but belts and fists…I don’t know…the kids I knew who were in trouble were often kids that had Mom use a belt on them…

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  209. 211 BeRiGaN 3 tHe SeArCh FoR rOcK March 12, 2008 at 11:26 am

    and VOR, good question as to who will stay and who will go! I imagine Gorkys will get sent to Minor league camp…. I forget, is Prado out of options???
    This should be a list of what braves players are doing this spring…
    http://mlb.mlb.com/stats/sortable_player_stats.jsp?c_id=mlb&section1=2&statSet1=1&sortByStat=TEAM&statType=1&timeFrame=1&timeSubFrame=23&baseballScope=mlb&prevPage1=1&readBoxes=true&teamPosCode=All

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  210. 212 chrisklob March 12, 2008 at 11:28 am

    Raisins, we’re already suffering through “Age 12” with our daughter who would like to be 22 already.

    I actually worry less about our son. He’s more reserved and is a very smart kid. He has a better understanding of consequences than our daughter.

    Biggest problem with him is getting him to do his chores on time and in completion.

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  211. 213 paladin2008 March 12, 2008 at 11:29 am

    My children are now grown and I didn’t do a very good job. But, none are in prison, on drugs or otherwise “hung up”. They had their opportunites for higher education; some took it, some didn’t. But, now they have the same opportunites for success that I did. If I had the chance to do it over…but, I don’t.

    Now, I have a dog. I would never give him “5 across the lip” or a boot in the a$$. But, he doesn’t know that. ‘Nuff said.

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  212. 214 Voice of Raisins March 12, 2008 at 11:33 am

    Klobber, sounds exactly like my son, and that includes schoolwork as well. He is an “A” student, he gets “A” grades, but has either forgotten to turn in homework, or has lost it somewhere between home and school enough to cost him “A”s in two classes. Now, THAT, is maddening…

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  213. 215 Voice of Raisins March 12, 2008 at 11:34 am

    I would never give him “5 across the lip” or a boot in the a$$. But, he doesn’t know that. ‘Nuff said.

    That is the key, my friend, that is the key…

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  214. 216 paladin2008 March 12, 2008 at 11:56 am

    I keep trying to leave and then I come across something like this:

    DALLAS (AP) – A woman threw her two young children from a freeway overpass during Wednesday’s morning rush before leaping off herself, police said, and somehow all three survived the 22-foot fall into traffic.

    The kids were 8 and 6. What do you want to bet that they come up with some “cause’ for her action and eventually give her custody of the children? “Hi, mommy, I haven’t seen you since you threw us off that bridge.” God, what a world this has become!

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  215. 217 chrisklob March 12, 2008 at 12:00 pm

    whatthehelliswrongwithpeoplethesedays.com

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  216. 218 Chop Seal March 12, 2008 at 12:03 pm

    jimmY smith saved me froM a clubbing but jimmy smitH would never hesitate to spanK me even though seals have no buttocks. caN i say that, carulina ladY? seal buttocks?

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  217. 219 flbravesgirl March 12, 2008 at 12:04 pm

    Sounds like y’all are handling discipline properly. These people that don’t teach their children to behave like humans drive me crazy. This would never happen because 1. we don’t have the medical technology & 2. it’s very BigBrotherish… but I wish there was something (an implant?) that was a foolproof birth-control that everyone was required to have from puberty on. No more unplanned pregnancies. Then when a married couple (of appropriate age, good health, steady income, pass a background check) wanted to have a baby, they would have to undergo extensive training & counseling before being given a parental license. Anyone who complained that they don’t have time for the training will be told “then you don’t have time to take care of a baby either”.

    I know it’s incredibly draconian but it sure would solve a lot of problems.

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  218. 220 Bob, journalist March 12, 2008 at 12:06 pm

    the kids I knew who were in trouble were often kids that had Mom use a belt on them” … times change and each situation is different but while Daddy used the belt and Mama used a switch … my experience was the exact opposite “the kids I knew who were in trouble were often the kids whose Mom spared the rod.”

    The key is consistency … and it’s hard to start at a child’s age 12, doing something that should have been done at age one or two … though that’s probably easier and better than starting at age 13.

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  219. 221 flbravesgirl March 12, 2008 at 12:08 pm

    And Paladin, thank you for pointing out that teenage boys need to be held more accountable. It’s the same story every time: teen girl turns up pregnant & the boyfriend instantly disappears.

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  220. 222 paladin2008 March 12, 2008 at 12:14 pm

    FBG; All my children are males but the understood if they got a girl in “trouble” that “they got” were the key words.

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  221. 223 chrisklob March 12, 2008 at 12:14 pm

    One of the girls that my daughter goes to school with (notice that I didn’t say they were friends; she realizes what a brat this girl is) is absolutely spoiled rotten. She is constantly rude and disrespectful to her parents, even in front of other adults. She also continually tells her father that he should divorce her mother because she is such a b****.

    One night recently I had “pickup” duty after some event that they all attended. Had six girls in the car. It was a Saturday night and it was around ten. This girl calls her mother to ask permission to be dropped off at one of the other girl’s houses rather than her own home. This other girl’s house was several miles away from her home and it meant that her mother or father would have to get out of bed and go pick her up later that night.

    Her mother denied her request and an argument ensued. The girl abruptly slammed her phone shut and announced to the car (including an adult) “I just hung up on her. I got tired of listening to her so I hung up on her.” She then proceeded to ask me to take her to the other girl’s house!

    One further note, her goal in life is to pose for Playboy.

    Great job, mom and dad.

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  222. 224 paladin2008 March 12, 2008 at 12:15 pm

    “they”

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  223. 225 paladin2008 March 12, 2008 at 12:17 pm

    Don’t keep us in suspense, Klobber. Did you?

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  224. 226 BeRiGaN 3 tHe SeArCh FoR rOcK March 12, 2008 at 12:20 pm

    Bob, The kids I knew were consistently whipped…their parents seemed to get off on it….one Mom came storming into my friend’s room swinging a belt wildly for some unknown infraction….I was around 8 and went running out of the room, and jumped down almost all the stairs(It was a 2 floor apartment) and ran home….He, and the other kid I knew who was belted on a regular basis, learned to toughen up and could take most any punishment meted out by their parents, so what did they have to fear from anyone at that point???

    Used once in awhile, perhaps….Like I said, spankings are ok, but when you get beyond that, it may have more to do with pain tolerance than anything else….

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  225. 227 flbravesgirl March 12, 2008 at 12:20 pm

    Chris, that’s revolting. They have no one to blame but themselves.

    Paladin, if either my sister or I had been foolish enough to get in that predicament my parents would have made sure the young man & his family shared the responsibility & expense, assuming my dad left him among the living.

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  226. 228 paladin2008 March 12, 2008 at 12:24 pm

    Berigan; What you are relating is abuse. And that type of “discipline” applied in front of other’s children is reprehensible. You are not talking about a parent, you are describing a biological accident.

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  227. 229 paladin2008 March 12, 2008 at 12:29 pm

    My! This blog has taken quite a Dr. Phil “twist”, hasn’t it? I guess it is my fault. Sorry. PLAY BALL!!!

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  228. 230 Chop Seal March 12, 2008 at 12:32 pm

    jimmy smith used to twist mY ears.

    just kidding . . . no eaRs!

    still everything needed to write beetS.

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  229. 231 Chop Seal March 12, 2008 at 12:32 pm

    can’t crY on my shouldeR eitheR.

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  230. 232 Bob, journalist March 12, 2008 at 12:40 pm

    … can only hope and pray that the mistakes that their children make don’t have negative impact on their future!” … while we do so hope and pray, methinks we can do more to help assure that that is the case for it is our mistakes from which we learn … it is their mistakes that have the greatest impact on our children’s lives … but let us hope and pray that the mistakes that we make with our children don’t have negative impact on their future!

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  231. 233 chrisklob March 12, 2008 at 12:41 pm

    Don’t keep us in suspense, Klobber. Did you?

    I am disappointed that you would even consider that I might have taken that child someplace that her mother didn’t want her to go.

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  232. 234 chrisklob March 12, 2008 at 12:46 pm

    Berigan, I have to agree with Paladin. That is abusive behavior.

    I was paddled plenty as a kid. Switches, hands, belts, even those little wooden paddles with the ball attached with the elastic string. Had more than one of those broken across my backside. But, each and every time I was spanked I deserved it. As I grew older I came to understand that the discipline came from love, not anger or anything else. And I was NEVER disciplined in front of other children.

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  233. 235 paladin2008 March 12, 2008 at 12:50 pm

    Sorry Klobber, I intended to put a smilie after that. I had no doubt what you, or I, would do. Give an old man a break…no, not that kind. 😀

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  234. 236 paladin2008 March 12, 2008 at 12:58 pm

    But, when we are picking nits: “I have to agree with Paladin…”. Is it so difficult? 🙂

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  235. 237 paladin2008 March 12, 2008 at 1:06 pm

    My Father used to tell me “Go in your room, take down your trousers(he never called the male garment ‘pants’)and I’ll be in shortly.” Shortly might be 30 minutes or more. Sitting there with your bloomers down around your ankles, waiting, was the worse part of the punishment.

    My Mother, on the other hand, would say, “Go get me a switch”. And it had better be a good one.

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  236. 238 Voice of Raisins March 12, 2008 at 1:09 pm

    My Mother, on the other hand, would say, “Go get me a switch”. And it had better be a good one.

    Brother?

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  237. 239 paladin2008 March 12, 2008 at 1:11 pm

    I didn’t make the most important point in the above. Neither parent ever “got off” on me. It was thought out discipline. Well, one time my Mother slapped my face when I smarted off to her. I deserved it and certainly bear no scars about, or from, it.

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  238. 240 paladin2008 March 12, 2008 at 1:13 pm

    Brother?

    Sorry, don’t follow.

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  239. 241 journalist jimmy smith March 12, 2008 at 1:21 pm

    “oh, the humanity! jimmy smith! go out to the tamarind tree right now and pick out a switch and come back hear to mumbo smith . . . ”

    journalist can here it now.

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  240. 242 paladin2008 March 12, 2008 at 1:23 pm

    If you mean(and you are mean)what did my brother do: Being 3 1/2 years older he regularly gave me 5 across the lip. And being the lawyer-in-training that he was/is, he would then convince anyone who gave a flip that I had run into his fist.

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  241. 243 paladin2008 March 12, 2008 at 1:31 pm

    And jjs I’m sure it happened with you as well. You brought her a switch that was not to her liking and she wore that out on you and sent you back to get a proper one. Remember?

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  242. 244 journalist jimmy smith March 12, 2008 at 1:32 pm

    yes, reminds jimmy smith of turnip smith, jimmy smith’s sibling. a fine barrister now.

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  243. 245 Voice of Raisins March 12, 2008 at 1:33 pm

    The inference, paladin, was that my mother did the same thing, therefor we are brothers. It was a timing thing… now, after explanation, it is just stupid… 😐

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  244. 246 journalist jimmy smith March 12, 2008 at 1:34 pm

    afraid jimmy smith would grow up to be a beet writer.

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  245. 247 journalist jimmy smith March 12, 2008 at 1:34 pm

    only one turnip in the family.

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  246. 248 paladin2008 March 12, 2008 at 1:39 pm

    I’m a bad seed, myself. But, proud to be Raisin’s brother. Although, uncle would still be a chronological stretch.

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  247. 249 journalist jimmy smith March 12, 2008 at 1:39 pm

    now, baseball . . . remember joe borchard. but nowhere to play. much like others that have gone before . . .

    and journalist has a bad feeling that chipper is about to twist something. not sure why – just a bad feeling.

    and how many socks is chipper wearing this season? and will the mizuno shoes still work well if the mizuno shoes get wet? and do these mizuno shoes have toe compartments? and how many compartments? how many toes? could be just a rumor. not sure.

    and carolina lady must be researching again today.

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  248. 250 paladin2008 March 12, 2008 at 1:44 pm

    I think a “can’t miss” 3rd baseman in the system would really help keep Chipper’s “twists” to a minimum. If he was “hearing footsteps’ it might work as it has done before on “mainstays” reaching the twilight of their career.

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  249. 251 Voice of Raisins March 12, 2008 at 2:03 pm

    Dang! In 2007, Chipper hit .337 (.003 behind the NL batting champ) with 29 HRs and 102 RBI. He only K’d 75 times in 513 official AB’s. He finished 6th in NL MVP voting. I sure wish he’d try harder… 😉

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  250. 252 journalist jimmy smith March 12, 2008 at 2:30 pm

    very good player – but not a lovable player. lovable only to ten and under. not a hoss in this journalist’s book. prone to injury – prone on the field at times. will now have to deal with irregularity and other vagaries of aging. could become grumpy. could become itchy. never sure. out due to itch. can’t scratch on t.v. can pick, but can’t scratch. carolina lady is not going to like this jimmy smith post but carolina lady is researching right now and is unable at this time to ban this: [jimmysmith’stickettothedoghouse 🙂 ]. oh, the humanity! the devil made jimmy smith do that. please forgive jimmy smith, carolina lady. carolina lady, please remove the word — above. thank you, carolina lady. your friend, jimmy smith

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  251. 253 Gil in Mechanicsville March 12, 2008 at 2:32 pm

    Good afternoon all… Interesting “stuff” being commented on today…. 🙂 My mother (broom Hilda) claims it was my ill behavior that was responsible for the demise of the peach trees on the property due to the constant fetching of switches on my part. The woman was an artist with a peach tree switch in her hands, I learned some of my best dance moves during some of those sessions of discipline. Of course, I did learn a valuable lesson in child rearing (no pun intended) and that was to be less physical in dispensing correction. I still get twitchy when eating peach pie… 🙂

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  252. 254 Bob, journalist March 12, 2008 at 2:41 pm

    Berigan, others have expressed themselves better than I could ever hope to do … we each have our perspectives and certainly what we saw as children influences what we “see” as adults. Though as adults, it often takes a lifetime to put things into proper perspective and realize that what we saw as children was seen through the eyes of a child … with a simplified perspective and limited planes of reference.

    Methinks those parents who argue that the purpose of discipline is to teach the child the difference between right and wrong are more than half wrong … for knowing such difference is almost innate … it seems to me that discipline’s greater purpose is to help instill whatever it is that causes us to play by the rules and make good fundamental choices … and to accept responsibility for our actions.

    I figure that the spankings, belts and switches did me good … love/fear … it’s complex … I don’t know that there is one “right way” … regardless of the path we take, it’s bound to be fraught with peril … there’s no road map so we must do the best we can and temper our actions with love … you are where you are, but where you’ve been has a lot to do with where you’re going.

    Jesus said “Let the little children come unto me” … but it’s the parent’s job to see that they leave their guns and knives at home.

    Old folks’ day at Publix … later.

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  253. 255 paladin2008 March 12, 2008 at 2:54 pm

    Raisins, I’m sorry if I struck a nerve with what I said about Chipper. I’m not saying he isn’t still a good(maybe great)ballplayer and an intregal part of the Braves. That’s why we need him full-time. You quote his statisitcs from last year but remember he had to be “called out” by Smoltz and then missed the biggest series with the Mets with “injuries” much less than mortal. I still think that “footsteps” wouldn’t hurt.

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  254. 256 Voice of Raisins March 12, 2008 at 3:35 pm

    paladin: I was actually simply being facetious. Notice the “wink” after the remark? Cyber sarcasm… My nerves have long gone numb.

    (By the way, it’s really hard to type with Italian Ice in one hand…)

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  255. 257 Voice of Raisins March 12, 2008 at 3:36 pm

    (… and a spoon in the other…)

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  256. 258 BeRiGaN 3 tHe SeArCh FoR rOcK March 12, 2008 at 3:37 pm

    What a difference a few days makes!!! Don’t let Lew see this photo of my front yard! 😛

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  257. 259 Voice of Raisins March 12, 2008 at 3:41 pm

    Now, news of the wierd:

    Sheriff: Woman sat on boyfriend’s toilet for 2 years; didn’t want to leave bathroom

    Published on: 03/12/08

    NESS CITY, Kan. — Authorities are considering charges in the bizarre case of a woman who sat on her boyfriend’s toilet for two years; so long that her body was stuck to the seat by the time the boyfriend finally called police.

    Ness County Sheriff Bryan Whipple said it appeared the 35-year-old Ness City woman’s skin had grown around the seat. She initially refused emergency medical services but was finally convinced by responders and her boyfriend that she needed to be checked out at a hospital.

    Uh…OK.

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  258. 260 journalist jimmy smith March 12, 2008 at 3:45 pm

    hmmm… carolina lady is not doing research right now after all . . . carolina lady has edited out the bad word and it snot even their anymore. jimmy smith promises to behave. now, chipper talk . . . uh, this journalist is trying not to pick on chipper anymore. chipper is just like forrest gump. chipper is as chipper does. good thing this is not the blog of choice for chipper – there’s not a lot of golly, gee hear. except for joe borchard – kept the braves from loosing last night. golly. not ready for a gee yet. maybe later if joe borchard makes the team.

    and discussion of peach trees reminds jimmy smith of peaches and peaches remind jimmy smith of homemade peach ice cream. and ice cream reminds jimmy smith of butter pecan ice cream. and butter pecan ice cream reminds jimmy smith of root beer float. and now, jimmy smith must go to the kitchen . . .

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  259. 261 Voice of Raisins March 12, 2008 at 3:46 pm

    I hope he had more than one bathroom…

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  260. 262 journalist jimmy smith March 12, 2008 at 3:49 pm

    what would bloggers rather have in a tub . . . journalist bob or butter pecan ice cream? easy choice for jimmy smith. jimmy smith endorses publix butter pecan ice cream in a tub. journalist bob should pick up some publix buuter pecan ice cream in a tub when journalist bob goes to publix. then . . . journalist bob could enjoy some publix butter pecan ice cream in a tub while in a tub of journalist bob’s own. starting to write like a beet writer – must go rest.

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  261. 263 BeRiGaN 3 tHe SeArCh FoR rOcK March 12, 2008 at 3:50 pm

    Hopefully, VOR will be banned after that last story!!!! 😯 👿

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  262. 264 paladin2008 March 12, 2008 at 3:50 pm

    I can’t wait for Paul Harvey’s “Rest of the Story” on the toilet squatter. I hope the boyfriend had another bath. “Excuse me, honey…” would not suffice, methinks.

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  263. 266 Voice of Raisins March 12, 2008 at 3:55 pm

    Hopefully, VOR will be banned after that last story!!!!

    Can’t I just go get a switch?

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  264. 267 paladin2008 March 12, 2008 at 3:56 pm

    jjs whetted my appetite. Raisins completely destroyed it. But, it is a gorgeous day in the 60s here so I think I will go out and let the dog throw the ball for me.

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  265. 268 paladin2008 March 12, 2008 at 3:58 pm

    Can’t I just go get a switch?

    Bamboo?

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  266. 269 Voice of Raisins March 12, 2008 at 4:02 pm

    No. Toggle…

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  267. 270 paladin2008 March 12, 2008 at 4:03 pm

    Hooked to an electric chair, I trust.

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  268. 271 Voice of Raisins March 12, 2008 at 4:04 pm

    Touché.

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  269. 272 paladin2008 March 12, 2008 at 4:06 pm

    I have asked this on here several times and no one has even given me the courtesy of a reply. Has anyone seen or heard from ww? I’m afraid that boy is running with the wrong crowd.

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  270. 273 paladin2008 March 12, 2008 at 4:08 pm

    Just whatever you do, don’t touche’ my toot toot.

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  271. 274 Voice of Raisins March 12, 2008 at 4:09 pm

    Courteously, no.

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  272. 275 paladin2008 March 12, 2008 at 4:11 pm

    Thank you, brother.

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  273. 276 paladin2008 March 12, 2008 at 4:13 pm

    Gone to the yard. Arf Arf.

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  274. 277 Voice of Raisins March 12, 2008 at 4:13 pm

    😉

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  275. 278 BeRiGaN 3 tHe SeArCh FoR rOcK March 12, 2008 at 4:14 pm

    Read headlines on AJC braves section…
    “Picking Glavine’s brain” was one of them….I shall now channel JJS…
    Was Bobby confused and went elbow deep in Tommy’s nose??? All Tommy has is brain. Can’t pitch without it. Bobby should stick to picking just his nose. Bobby’s brain used to it by now. Explains Willie playing after all star break.

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  276. 279 BeRiGaN 3 tHe SeArCh FoR rOcK March 12, 2008 at 4:15 pm

    Paladin, VOR going on the road with that act??? 😉

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  277. 280 Voice of Raisins March 12, 2008 at 4:16 pm

    I can hear it now: “Hey… that’s gray! It’s never been gray before!” 😀

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  278. 281 Voice of Raisins March 12, 2008 at 4:17 pm

    Ow!

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  279. 282 BeRiGaN 3 tHe SeArCh FoR rOcK March 12, 2008 at 4:20 pm

    VOR, you have been hanging around with Paladin too much…He and JJS are bad influences on a young kid like yourself…

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  280. 283 Voice of Raisins March 12, 2008 at 4:22 pm

    Yep, that’s me… young kid.

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  281. 284 BeRiGaN 3 tHe SeArCh FoR rOcK March 12, 2008 at 4:30 pm

    Along with the photo I posted above, don’t let Lew see this story, either!!!

    http://www.cnn.com/2008/SHOWBIZ/TV/03/11/dawn.wells.ap/index.html

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  282. 285 ssiscribe March 12, 2008 at 4:31 pm

    NEWARK, N.J. — Top of the afternoon, denizens. Just thought I’d say hello from what must be the ugliest place I’ve ever been. New Jersey is cold, bleak looking, the roads are crappy and, well, let’s just say it ain’t the South.

    You guys will appreciate the back page of the N.Y. Post today: Pedro and Santana grinning, as Pedro tells Johan “you’re No. 1.”

    Yeah, duh! Like the Mets were going to spend all that money on a guy and pitch him behind John Maine in the rotation. Lovely, indeed. Guess that means Santana will make his Turner Field debut in that Saturday afternoon game. If Smoltz starts the season opener in D.C., it’d be Smoltz and Santana on that Saturday.

    And they are KILLING the N.Y. governor up here (and rightly so). The headlines are a hoot: Hooked! Hooker Happy!

    OK, off I go. Gotta catch a train to the NYC. Take care of the ‘hood while I’m away.

    The Scribe abides.

    –30–

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  283. 286 BeRiGaN 3 tHe SeArCh FoR rOcK March 12, 2008 at 4:32 pm

    This sure doesn’t sound like a stoner’s excuse, does it???

    When Gutierrez asked about a marijuana smell, (Dawn)Wells said she’d just given a ride to three hitchhikers and had dropped them off when they began smoking something. Gutierrez found half-smoked joints and two small cases used to store marijuana.

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  284. 287 Voice of Raisins March 12, 2008 at 4:33 pm

    Yikes, SSI… That’s worse than a switch! 😯

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  285. 288 Voice of Raisins March 12, 2008 at 4:37 pm

    Maybe MaryAnn had some salvia…

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  286. 289 BeRiGaN 3 tHe SeArCh FoR rOcK March 12, 2008 at 4:48 pm

    Guys, you won’t probably won’t believe me, but there truly are nice parts of New Jersey!!! I wouldn’t have believed it myself, but I was sent from Borders books up to Bridgewater, NJ in the late 90’s to help with a store that was going to be remodeled at night, and still kept open during the day(Of course the dopes forgot to get proper permits, and I was sent home after 3 days but anyway….)and as a trainer, naturally I would be doing no training at all, but would be part of the labor force. At least a trainer wouldn’t mess things up too much as the whole store was rearranged.
    Anyway, I was truly stunned by how pretty that section of NJ was! NJ is the garden state and all that, and some people take pride in that fact….
    Lew, can you back me up on this???

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  287. 290 BeRiGaN 3 tHe SeArCh FoR rOcK March 12, 2008 at 4:49 pm

    Saliva???? I got your brother reference from the beginning…but I am lost here!

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  288. 291 Voice of Raisins March 12, 2008 at 4:56 pm

    paladin2008 Says:

    March 11, 2008 at 8:30 pm
    I saw where Salvia may be the next Mary Jane. So, I thought to myself, why not try it while it is legal? Then, I saw this:

    “salvia is a hallucinogen that gives users an out-of-body sense of traveling through time and space or merging with inanimate objects. Unlike hallucinogens like LSD or PCP, however, salvia’s effects last for a shorter time, generally up to an hour.”

    I spent the better part of my adult life trying to avoid merging myself with inanimate objects, and I’ll be damned if I’m goint to smoke something that makes that happen. Pour me another KC, Klobber, and let’s stay legal, even if we are drunk–and not driving. Remember, however: Don’t drink and drive. You might hit a bump and spill something.

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  289. 292 BeRiGaN 3 tHe SeArCh FoR rOcK March 12, 2008 at 5:01 pm

    Oh…..I thought you meant the rock group perhaps! You kids, and your hip new drugs….Actually, I did just hear about it on TV last night.
    Shamefully, I have to admit…I didn’t read every single post from last night!!! 😳

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  290. 293 Voice of Raisins March 12, 2008 at 5:04 pm

    Shame on you! 😯

    Admittedly, I am a B&S junkie… no post goes unread, or at least unscanned.

    Alas, it is time for dinner. Goin’ out for Chinese before church. Now there’s a combination for ya!

    C-ya! 😀

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  291. 294 BeRiGaN 3 tHe SeArCh FoR rOcK March 12, 2008 at 5:15 pm

    You are going to Church’s for Chicken, then a place of worship were they speak Chinese??? Sorry, just quickly scanned your post! 🙂

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  292. 295 BeRiGaN 3 tHe SeArCh FoR rOcK March 12, 2008 at 5:17 pm

    Hey, you don’t have to read it, but I thought this was a very interesting column by Playwright(And screenwriter) David Mamet on being a liberal. A few bad words, just a few…Shouldn’t upset anyone, no matter what side of the fence you are on…
    http://www.villagevoice.com/news/0811,374064,374064,1.html/full

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  293. 296 Bay Area Steve March 12, 2008 at 6:10 pm

    Because it’s been slow:

    Recently saw my first play in 20 years, “Glen Gary Glen Ross” by David Mamet, I think. I hope I never see another.

    Guess I’m just not sophisticated enough, y’all.

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  294. 297 Bay Area Steve March 12, 2008 at 6:15 pm

    And I second 008, questioning the whereabouts of a certain Wallace. I know you’re reading Braveheart. Chime the heck in. You’re missed.

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  295. 298 Bay Area Steve March 12, 2008 at 6:32 pm

    Mr. Journalist (the hot tub one),

    I would be remiss if I didn’t thank you for the excellent lead. Golly, gee, well done. I think I followed it all, for once. That was probably by design for us mere mortals. Thank you.

    You covered all the issues with the team very nicely. Those question marks are what is going to make or break this team. I would like to hear your thoughts on Diaz hitting 3, as well as the pitcher hitting 8. I’ve always thought the latter was crazy, but many I respect seem to like the move.

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  296. 299 BeRiGaN 3 tHe SeArCh FoR rOcK March 12, 2008 at 7:05 pm

    Hey BAS! Looks like, like me most days, you picked the wrong time to blog….

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  297. 300 BeRiGaN 3 tHe SeArCh FoR rOcK March 12, 2008 at 7:10 pm

    BAS, Mamet also wrote the screenplays for The Verdict , And the Untouchables….
    He also wrote a play called Speed the Plow, and Madonna once was in it!!! I thought the title alone was all that is wrong with plays written today(Well, what was wrong today, back in the day) and Madonna should never attempt to act, ever again…..

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  298. 301 paladin2008 March 12, 2008 at 7:35 pm

    Sorry BAS, I thought GGGR was a tour de force for Lemmon, Pacino, Baldwin, Arkin and Spacey. Perhaps you should check the Disney releases.

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  299. 302 paladin2008 March 12, 2008 at 7:41 pm

    How about “12 Angry Men” and “To Kill a Mocking Bird”? Are they a waste of time, as well. Not much bang bang shoot-em-up but exquisite writing and acting. Or, IMHO.

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  300. 303 BeRiGaN 3 tHe SeArCh FoR rOcK March 12, 2008 at 7:42 pm

    Paladin, he saw the play….My favorite movie is It’s a Wonderful Life” Marlo Thomas starred in a TV version in which she played the George Bailey role. I nearly vomited….anyone can ruin anything, it’s America, dangit!

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  301. 304 paladin2008 March 12, 2008 at 7:50 pm

    Since I am coming out shooting from the hip, B3, let me direct some at you. You and VOR were, earlier, discussing who did, and did not, read what had been written (earlier) on the blog. He said he did. You said you didn’t. I agree with him wholeheartedly. Not that you might miss one of my(or jimmies’)”funnies”, it’s seeing what the blog iis discussing so, hopefully you won’t just come in an start, rudely some would say, your own tread. ‘Course CL is the ultimate arbiter, so what do I know?

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  302. 305 paladin2008 March 12, 2008 at 7:53 pm

    Paladin, he saw the play… I’m aware of that, B3. But, the writing is still exquisite. and if you go to a local playhouse, give them a break!

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  303. 306 paladin2008 March 12, 2008 at 7:56 pm

    “thread”

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  304. 307 Gil in Mechanicsville March 12, 2008 at 8:03 pm

    I take it everyone is watching the game tonight?

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  305. 308 paladin2008 March 12, 2008 at 8:04 pm

    Our local playhouse recently did “Diamonds are a Girl’s Best Friend”. The gal is the lead was definitely not a Carol Channing, but she was cute, vivacious and forgivable. We gave her a standing ovation.

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  306. 309 BeRiGaN 3 tHe SeArCh FoR rOcK March 12, 2008 at 8:04 pm

    Somebody woke up crabby from their nap, perhaps you need a longer one???: Or a Pamprin??? 😛

    I read probably 95% of the posts here….I do find if 50-100 posts have been made since I was last here, I will likely scan them quickly. Have you read every post made in the 28 Blogs????

    Doesn’t matter how good the written word is, anyone can ruin anything.
    Know the Irving Berlin song,
    “How Deep is the Ocean”? Beautiful song…If you never heard the song, and I sang it….you might not agree…..

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  307. 310 paladin2008 March 12, 2008 at 8:05 pm

    Gil; Probably but I intend to just blather on. Join me?

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  308. 311 paladin2008 March 12, 2008 at 8:07 pm

    Oh, I have wadded Berigan’s pantaloons. Shame on me!

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  309. 312 Gil in Mechanicsville March 12, 2008 at 8:08 pm

    Boyer looks better than he did last year in Richmond. Leaner and more confidence.

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  310. 313 Gil in Mechanicsville March 12, 2008 at 8:09 pm

    You can do both. It’s free on MLB tonight.

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  311. 314 Gil in Mechanicsville March 12, 2008 at 8:11 pm

    You know why New Jersey is called the Garden State don’t you?

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  312. 315 paladin2008 March 12, 2008 at 8:12 pm

    Braves are down 3-2. Don’t know who is pitching or anything else. Where are our play-by-play guys?

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  313. 316 paladin2008 March 12, 2008 at 8:13 pm

    Why, pray tell?

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  314. 317 Gil in Mechanicsville March 12, 2008 at 8:13 pm

    Watching the game 008… Buddy Carlyle gave up 3 solo homers.

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  315. 318 Gil in Mechanicsville March 12, 2008 at 8:14 pm

    Because it is full of blooming idiots….

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  316. 319 chrisklob March 12, 2008 at 8:14 pm

    Gil, it’s called the garden state because of all the dead bodies that act as great fertilizer.

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  317. 320 paladin2008 March 12, 2008 at 8:15 pm

    Buddy needs to be sent down for some “seasoning”. 😀

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  318. 321 Gil in Mechanicsville March 12, 2008 at 8:15 pm

    Brian McCann just hit a 2 run homer. 4-3 Braves

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  319. 322 chrisklob March 12, 2008 at 8:16 pm

    Tex has two hits. Mac just hit a two run HR. Braves lead 4-3

    Frenchy just got a hit as did Kotsay. Men on first and second. Nobody out in the bottom of the fourth.

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  320. 323 paladin2008 March 12, 2008 at 8:16 pm

    Klobber!! Give us a play-by-play, my man!

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  321. 324 Gil in Mechanicsville March 12, 2008 at 8:17 pm

    Naw Chris… Favorite method of disposal it in concrete bridge pilings and bridge abuttments

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  322. 325 chrisklob March 12, 2008 at 8:17 pm

    Brandon Jones hits to 2B. SHould have been a DP but Asdrubal Cabrera booted it. Runner scores. Men on the corners.

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  323. 326 Gil in Mechanicsville March 12, 2008 at 8:18 pm

    E-4

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  324. 327 paladin2008 March 12, 2008 at 8:19 pm

    “abuttments” will get you in trouble, Gil. 🙂

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  325. 328 chrisklob March 12, 2008 at 8:19 pm

    Prado hits one to left. Runner scores. Men on first and second. Nobody out. This poor pitcher has given up about six hits in a row. Can’t buy an out.

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  326. 329 Gil in Mechanicsville March 12, 2008 at 8:20 pm

    Man… Richmond is going to have a hell of a team this year….

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  327. 330 chrisklob March 12, 2008 at 8:20 pm

    Bases loaded after Kelly gets a hit to rf.

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  328. 331 paladin2008 March 12, 2008 at 8:20 pm

    Just as long as he don’t play for us.

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  329. 332 Gil in Mechanicsville March 12, 2008 at 8:21 pm

    Just call me governor…

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  330. 333 chrisklob March 12, 2008 at 8:21 pm

    Gil, I’ve heard that before about concrete pouring companies also being body removers.

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  331. 334 BeRiGaN 3 tHe SeArCh FoR rOcK March 12, 2008 at 8:22 pm

    Stop the presses!!!! Extry, extry, see the high priced call girl on….
    http://www.drudgereport.com/

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  332. 335 chrisklob March 12, 2008 at 8:22 pm

    GIl’s boy Boyer just got a bases loaded single to left.

    Chipper hits it deep to the track in LF. Runner in. 8-3. 1 out

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  333. 336 paladin2008 March 12, 2008 at 8:22 pm

    Gil; Do you really want to share this with us?

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  334. 337 chrisklob March 12, 2008 at 8:25 pm

    Tex has men on the corners. He rips one past Marte at 3B. Johnson scores. 9-3. Tex has three hits for the night.

    Pitching change!

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  335. 338 BeRiGaN 3 tHe SeArCh FoR rOcK March 12, 2008 at 8:25 pm

    I asked earlier, but I guess Paladin doesn’t read all the posts here 😈
    Does Prado have any options left, or not????

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  336. 339 Chop Seal March 12, 2008 at 8:25 pm

    another writer is reportinG that bobby is pickinG tom glavine’s brain – but i have not seeN it. bobby is pickin’ alright – but not in toM glavine’s noSe. it is bobby’s nose that is geTTing picked. deep. real deep. nothinG but elbow showinG.

    everybudY is hittinG but chipper but chiPPer got an rbI.

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  337. 340 paladin2008 March 12, 2008 at 8:26 pm

    B3; She’s holding up those fingers trying to show what her “salary” is.

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  338. 341 chrisklob March 12, 2008 at 8:26 pm

    Prado has options.

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  339. 342 Gil in Mechanicsville March 12, 2008 at 8:26 pm

    No, he is out of options B3

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  340. 343 Gil in Mechanicsville March 12, 2008 at 8:28 pm

    Okay… we have a dispute… Let me check for sure instead of pulling that out of my butt….

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  341. 344 chrisklob March 12, 2008 at 8:28 pm

    I stand corrected.

    Thomas Mastny is the new pitcher. Mac is the batter. Mastny’s first pitch is wild. Blaine slides across the plate. 10-3.

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  342. 345 paladin2008 March 12, 2008 at 8:28 pm

    B3 ripped me…I think.

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  343. 346 chrisklob March 12, 2008 at 8:29 pm

    Mac flies out to short. 2 out.

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  344. 347 paladin2008 March 12, 2008 at 8:31 pm

    Is whether or not Prado has options important to anyone besides B3?

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  345. 348 Gil in Mechanicsville March 12, 2008 at 8:31 pm

    Okay… Prado is out of options…

    http://sportspyder.com/players/mlb/braves/7838/all

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  346. 349 chrisklob March 12, 2008 at 8:32 pm

    Frenchy tries to add insult to injury by throwing his bat into the Cleveland dugout.

    Frenchy hits one to RF. Should have been caught but got muffed. Runner scores. 11-4. 2 out.

    Paladin, you better walk your dog now. Gonna be a long night.

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  347. 350 BeRiGaN 3 tHe SeArCh FoR rOcK March 12, 2008 at 8:32 pm

    Apparently it is Pally boy!!!! 🙂

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  348. 351 paladin2008 March 12, 2008 at 8:33 pm

    I personally would rather read about Bobby picking his nose; but I’m weird.

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  349. 352 chrisklob March 12, 2008 at 8:33 pm

    Gil, I believe you. Just don’t have time to check now.

    Schafer at bat. Frenchy at 2b. Schafer strikes out. End of inning. Too bad. They only put up 9 this inning and dammit they stranded a runner.!

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  350. 353 chrisklob March 12, 2008 at 8:37 pm

    Thorman replaces Tex. D. Hernandez replaces KJ. Lilly replaces Chipper. Schafer in CF. Anderson in RF. I think COrky may be at C.

    Top of the fifth inning. Boyer K’s Mastny on a nasty pitch.

    Second batter hits one back at Boyer. He knocks it down and throws the runner out at first.

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  351. 354 Chop Seal March 12, 2008 at 8:38 pm

    oKay, theN i will beet writE musIc.

    “The farmer in the dell,

    the farmer in the dell;

    Heigh ho, the Derry-oh the farmer in the dell”

    “The farmer takes a wife . . .,

    “The wife takes a child . . .,”

    “The child takes a dog . . .,”

    “The dog takes a cat . . .,”

    “The cat takes a rat . . .,” and

    “The beet writer takes the cheese . . ..”

    “The cheese stands alone . . .,”

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  352. 355 paladin2008 March 12, 2008 at 8:39 pm

    You go, BoogKlobber. 😀

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  353. 356 chrisklob March 12, 2008 at 8:40 pm

    HIghest batting average in MLB since 2006, minimum 650 abs belongs to Ichiro at .336, followed by Matt Diaz and D Jeter at .333!!!

    Boyer’s got the hook working good tonight.

    Somebody hit one hard to right. Anderson dives and can’t get it. Dude winds up on third.

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  354. 357 paladin2008 March 12, 2008 at 8:41 pm

    Call 911! I think jimmy has finally lost it!

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  355. 358 paladin2008 March 12, 2008 at 8:42 pm

    Who’s up?

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  356. 359 chrisklob March 12, 2008 at 8:44 pm

    Just don’t take the “Klobb” out of that word and you’ll be ok with CL!

    SOme details lacking right now. THey’ve been interviewing Pendleton for a while now and not paying that much attention to the field.

    Dribbler to Lilly at 3b. He throws him out. End of half inning. 11-3 bottom of 5.

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  357. 360 Chop Seal March 12, 2008 at 8:45 pm

    terrY pendletoN coulD folloW bobby cox as manageR of the braves. terry was fishinG in hiS eyE durinG the intervieW on televisioN. LearniNg froM the beSt.

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  358. 361 Chop Seal March 12, 2008 at 8:46 pm

    folloWing different patHs, thouGh.

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  359. 362 chrisklob March 12, 2008 at 8:46 pm

    Brandon Jones up. Flies out to CF.

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  360. 363 paladin2008 March 12, 2008 at 8:47 pm

    Pendleton? I got one of his shirts. Kind of itchy. No, not Itchycario, or whatever his name is.

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  361. 364 chrisklob March 12, 2008 at 8:48 pm

    Prado at bat. Pops up to 1b. 2 out.

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  362. 365 paladin2008 March 12, 2008 at 8:49 pm

    Prado? Is he out of options?

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  363. 366 Chop Seal March 12, 2008 at 8:50 pm

    prado needs to make the squad-o

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  364. 367 chrisklob March 12, 2008 at 8:50 pm

    Diory Hernandez dribbles one out to 2b. End of inning. 11-3.

    Scary thought. Tigers will have Pudge Rodriguez hitting in the 8 spot this year. That is one sick lineup.

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  365. 368 chrisklob March 12, 2008 at 8:51 pm

    Paladin, I thought that Gil and I determined that he is definitely either out of options or not. 🙂

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  366. 369 paladin2008 March 12, 2008 at 8:52 pm

    “Sick” means good, right? I’m so proud of myself I could…no, I don’t think I will.

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  367. 370 chrisklob March 12, 2008 at 8:54 pm

    Francisley Bueno in to pitch. I hope his middle name is Muy.

    First batter lines out sharply to 1b. Nice play Thor. 1 out.

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  368. 371 chrisklob March 12, 2008 at 8:57 pm

    Cabrera at bat.

    Hey Gil, maybe we should ask Coach about Prado’s option status. That should make for some interesting reading!

    Lilly makes a diving stop of a sharply hit ball but can’t throw Cabrera out. Man on 1b.

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  369. 372 chrisklob March 12, 2008 at 8:57 pm

    Is anyone reading this crap? I’ll stop if no one wants to see it.

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  370. 373 paladin2008 March 12, 2008 at 8:58 pm

    “B”wordklob got deleted, twice. Plus, I was temporarily banished. Be warned.

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  371. 374 chrisklob March 12, 2008 at 8:58 pm

    Someone just flew out to Anderson by the line. 2 out.

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  372. 375 chrisklob March 12, 2008 at 8:59 pm

    I got kicked out too for a minute too. Guilt by association?

    Marte flies out to Shafer in CF. End of the top half of the sixth.

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  373. 376 paladin2008 March 12, 2008 at 9:00 pm

    Klobber; It’s up to you. It is all that’s keeping me up. That may mean that you go totally silent.

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  374. 377 Gil in Mechanicsville March 12, 2008 at 9:00 pm

    I included a link that verified that Prado is out of options… And yes, we are still reading Chris…

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  375. 378 chrisklob March 12, 2008 at 9:02 pm

    Bueno at bat. Not sure of the pitcher — maybe Mastny still.

    Bueno dribbles one back to P. One out. Not so Bueno with the bat-to.

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  376. 379 paladin2008 March 12, 2008 at 9:03 pm

    I just checked with Coach and he says Prado has a get out of jail free card + options. And you know how right Coach is.

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  377. 380 chrisklob March 12, 2008 at 9:04 pm

    I’ll keep going. Just want to make sure that I’m not talking to myself and filling the blog up with junk.

    Lilly has a good ab but flies out to LF. 2 out.

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  378. 381 paladin2008 March 12, 2008 at 9:05 pm

    “Bueno dribbles” is verbal poetry.

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  379. 382 chrisklob March 12, 2008 at 9:05 pm

    Thor at the plate. He crushes a very high fly that takes Sizemore all the way to the track. End of inning.

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  380. 383 chrisklob March 12, 2008 at 9:07 pm

    Just trying to inject a little levity into the blog. Play by play might be a little dry and hard to digest otherwise. Oh dear, I said digest. Hope that doesn’t upset journalist jimmy smith’s tender stomach linings.

    Oh dear, that’ll probably put him over the top!

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  381. 384 chrisklob March 12, 2008 at 9:10 pm

    Frenchy being interviewed in the booth.

    Bueno back on the mound. SOme dude just jacked one to RF that went over the fence across the parking lot and hit the trailer back there. Must have gone 425-450 ft. No bueno!

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  382. 385 paladin2008 March 12, 2008 at 9:10 pm

    You can’t trifle with stomach linings. And have we discussed polyps?

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  383. 386 chrisklob March 12, 2008 at 9:12 pm

    Someone else pops up to CF. Sorry, during the interviews the tv play by play gets pushed aside for more interesting topics. Esp. in a 9 run game.

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  384. 387 paladin2008 March 12, 2008 at 9:12 pm

    Was the jackee a Bravo or a Nat? I’m getting lost.

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  385. 388 chrisklob March 12, 2008 at 9:14 pm

    Jason MIchaels just hit one into the dirt and the ball bounced back up into his ahem, uh, you know! Down there! That’s gonna leave a mark!

    Then he flies out to CF. End of the top of the 7th.

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  386. 389 paladin2008 March 12, 2008 at 9:15 pm

    Was it a “twister”

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  387. 390 paladin2008 March 12, 2008 at 9:15 pm

    ?

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  388. 391 Gil in Mechanicsville March 12, 2008 at 9:16 pm

    Oh the humanity…. That’s gotta hurt….

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  389. 392 chrisklob March 12, 2008 at 9:16 pm

    The jackee was an Indian. RF’er barely moved.

    No, it wasn’t a twister but he did quite a bit of twisting around right afterwards!

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  390. 393 chrisklob March 12, 2008 at 9:19 pm

    Corky singles to lead off the Braves half of the 7th.

    Josh Anderson, with his socks pulled up high, flies out to CF. At least he looks good.

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  391. 394 chrisklob March 12, 2008 at 9:20 pm

    Schafer just tried to kill the INdians pitching coach with a very sharply hit ball that went between his legs. Then he pops out to SS.

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  392. 395 paladin2008 March 12, 2008 at 9:21 pm

    My wine glass is empty, My cigar is burning my lips. So, I think it is time to pack-it-in. I write it that way to avoid it being confused with “pachyderm”. That, of course, is a member of the animal kingdom that is unbelievably hung. I will c y’all tomorrow, assuming I can get in.

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  393. 396 chrisklob March 12, 2008 at 9:21 pm

    Brandon Jones shoots one through between 1b and SS. Runners on first and second.

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  394. 397 chrisklob March 12, 2008 at 9:22 pm

    Good night paladin. GIl, you still there?

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  395. 398 chrisklob March 12, 2008 at 9:23 pm

    Prado strikes out. End of inning.

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  396. 399 chrisklob March 12, 2008 at 9:26 pm

    Okay, I’m gonna quit since I think Gil might have passed out.

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  397. 400 Bay Area Steve March 12, 2008 at 9:29 pm

    Thanks for the play-by-play folks. Some of us are rather cheap and haven’t spent the coin for broadband, hence the free mlbtv is of no use.

    doespradohaveanoptionleft.com

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  398. 401 Gil in Mechanicsville March 12, 2008 at 9:29 pm

    dropped my post…

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  399. 402 Gil in Mechanicsville March 12, 2008 at 9:30 pm

    I was listening to the Jeff Francouer interview.

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  400. 403 chrisklob March 12, 2008 at 9:31 pm

    Okay I guess we’re back on.

    Yates on the mound. We’re in the top of the 8th, nobody out. Braves up 11-4.

    Yates K’s the leadoff batter.

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  401. 404 chrisklob March 12, 2008 at 9:32 pm

    Gil, if you’re watching then you don’t need me. BAS you still there?

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  402. 405 Bay Area Steve March 12, 2008 at 9:34 pm

    Yes sir. But if you’ve got something constructive to do…..

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  403. 406 chrisklob March 12, 2008 at 9:37 pm

    Alrighty then. Two out. Yates loses Shoppach to a walk. Got robbed.
    Men on first and second.

    Dude dribbles out to SS and gets thrown out at 2b.

    Sorry details are sketchy since Niekro is in the booth.

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  404. 407 Bay Area Steve March 12, 2008 at 9:38 pm

    008, hopefully you’ll see this in the morning.

    I wasn’t trying to disparage Mamet or GGGR at all. Or the actors for that matter. Many in the audience seemed to truly enjoy the play. It’s just not my cup of tea. Can’t really explain why. Interesting that it was also a movie; with those actors you mentioned, I may have to give it a chance if I see it on tv sometime.

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  405. 408 chrisklob March 12, 2008 at 9:40 pm

    Bottom of the eighth. Braves lead 11-4.

    Diory Hernandez at bat against Rich Rundles (new pitcher). Punches one past the 2b.

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  406. 409 chrisklob March 12, 2008 at 9:41 pm

    Borchard at bat and grounds into a 6-4-3 DP.

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  407. 410 Bay Area Steve March 12, 2008 at 9:41 pm

    No problem Chris; although I wish you would inject some humor….like you could. (insert appropriate emoticon here and hopefully Chris understands this barely funny inside? joke)

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  408. 411 chrisklob March 12, 2008 at 9:41 pm

    Joe’s telling us that Borchard has been taking a lot of balls at 1b. Hmmmmm. Thor, you reading this?

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  409. 412 chrisklob March 12, 2008 at 9:42 pm

    Sorry BAS. I don’t get it. Someone accused me of being “humorless” today. Not here. Over there.

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  410. 413 chrisklob March 12, 2008 at 9:43 pm

    Lilly strikes out to end the 8th.

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  411. 414 Bay Area Steve March 12, 2008 at 9:44 pm

    Man, I wish I could see these games in March. It’s awfully hard to have an opinion on who should make the team based on what others write. Yates, Resop, Boyer, Ring….sure seems like no more than three spots for those four….and we will lose the fourth.

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  412. 415 Bay Area Steve March 12, 2008 at 9:46 pm

    I saw Chris. That was the joke. I thought his comment was ridiculous. Just another guy, I would imagine, who doesn’t read the majority of the posts, and forms an opinion of someone based on the two posts they did skim.

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  413. 416 chrisklob March 12, 2008 at 9:46 pm

    Hopefully they can trade whoever doesn’t fit and get a piece for later.

    Top of the ninth. All Braves tonight.

    Jorge Campillo in to pitch. Somebody just ground out to 1b.

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  414. 417 Bay Area Steve March 12, 2008 at 9:47 pm

    IthinkChrisisfunnynottomentionhehaswhiskey.com

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  415. 418 chrisklob March 12, 2008 at 9:47 pm

    Glad I picked it up then! He’s a very aggressive, condescending know-it-all. Tell you more in a sec.

    Big lefty at bat. Flies out to B. Jones in Left center. Two out.

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  416. 419 Gil in Mechanicsville March 12, 2008 at 9:47 pm

    BAS… Are you old enough to remember when the Dodgers stockpiled talent in the minors? It is part of the reason baseball change the rules so kids could get a chance to play in the majors instead of being insurance.

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  417. 420 chrisklob March 12, 2008 at 9:48 pm

    Speaking of whiskey, I gotta go find me a glass after this last out.

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  418. 421 chrisklob March 12, 2008 at 9:48 pm

    Tyner grounds out to 2b to end the game.

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  419. 422 Gil in Mechanicsville March 12, 2008 at 9:51 pm

    Okay folks, catch ya’ll later…. Night…

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  420. 423 chrisklob March 12, 2008 at 9:51 pm

    BAS, several months ago I first saw his name and thought he was a jerk. As I said, very condescending. Then he gets on one day and was talking about using the “Find in this page” feature and how he never reads the entire blog, just searches for particular people. He named like three people, including me. I don’t know the guy from Adam yet he tells me that checks every day to see what I might have posted. Creepy.

    BAS, you’re not him, right?

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  421. 424 chrisklob March 12, 2008 at 9:52 pm

    Good night Gil.

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  422. 425 journalist jimmy smith March 12, 2008 at 9:52 pm

    hmmm… jimmy smith has been suggesting borchard at 1b. and now it is happening? hmmm….

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  423. 426 Bay Area Steve March 12, 2008 at 9:54 pm

    Thanks Chris, for finishing.

    No Gil, haven’t heard the story. I am glad the rules are what they are, so that kids aren’t stuck in the minors. It still shocks me that Santana is a Rule-5 guy.

    But it’s got to be a helluva thing to be a GM right now. It’s like you’re playing chicken with the other teams. How much value are they going to give you in trade, when they know you have to trade. Or do you take the risk and try to sneak them through waivers. Tough thing. That’s why I liked the Tony Pena deal. He wasn’t going to help us, and we got a prospect. Now the guy probably won’t amount to anything. But occasionally they do.

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  424. 427 Bay Area Steve March 12, 2008 at 9:58 pm

    Wasn’t me Chris. I only post with this very creative name. I do remember that “find feature” post. He spent like two pages explaining, and I remember thinking I could scroll faster than finding five different names. So what’s his name? Just so my lazy behind doesn’t have to go back and look.

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  425. 428 Bay Area Steve March 12, 2008 at 10:01 pm

    jjs, I have remembered Joe Borchard, as you suggested. I just don’t see how the Braves can make room for him. It’s not like he’s Woodward, or Canadian. But the potential he’s got…a former number one pick…if he could ever find it….and it sure seems like he’s found something this spring.

    It seems likely Gil ends up rooting for him in Washington.

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  426. 429 chrisklob March 12, 2008 at 10:01 pm

    Goes by Niels Boor.

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  427. 430 chrisklob March 12, 2008 at 10:03 pm

    Borchard strikes me as a typical AAAA player. Very nice guy though. Met him in Charlotte several times. He’ll be playing for the Nationals soon enough.

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  428. 431 Bay Area Steve March 12, 2008 at 10:04 pm

    Yeah, that guy is strange. He seems like he’s got a brain cell or two, but he is very condescending, as you say. The funny thing is, he acts as though he’s been there longer than anybody, and I only remember him from the last couple of months.

    Ihopethisblatherisokwiththeb&sers.com

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  429. 432 chrisklob March 12, 2008 at 10:05 pm

    I think we’re alone. No one should complain.

    I wonder if he was posting under another name before because I don’t remember him either.

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  430. 433 Bay Area Steve March 12, 2008 at 10:07 pm

    Before I forget, CL and Gil and whomever else, thanks for the rec on “New Amsterdam.” I just finished episode three. Good stuff.

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  431. 434 Bay Area Steve March 12, 2008 at 10:09 pm

    OK Chris Klobamylastnameislong. That’s enough for me. Until next time. good sir.

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  432. 435 chrisklob March 12, 2008 at 10:10 pm

    Later dude!

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  433. 436 flbravesgirl March 12, 2008 at 10:25 pm

    Thanks for the play-by-play, Chris. I’m just now getting caught up. Wish I had seen Mac’s HR.

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  434. 437 BeRiGaN 3 tHe SeArCh FoR rOcK March 12, 2008 at 10:28 pm

    Did anyone see this story on Baldelli??? Does seem to have a muscle issue….hope he will be able to play again! 😦
    http://blogs.tampabay.com/rays/2008/03/baldelli.html

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  435. 438 Voice of Raisins March 12, 2008 at 10:29 pm

    Hey! Where’d everybody go? 😯

    Just kidding. Thanks for the play-by-play, Klobber. I got home right at the and of the 9th, but I was able to “see” almost the whole game thanks to your colorful description. And it only took about 15 minutes. Cool!

    OK, G’night Klobber, BAS and everyone!

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  436. 439 chrisklob March 12, 2008 at 10:31 pm

    I’m still here. Glad y’all enjoyed the primitive play calling.

    Sad story about Baldelli. I hope they get his problem figured out. He played in Charleston in 2001 or 2002. Nice kid. Certainly wish him the best.

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  437. 440 flbravesgirl March 12, 2008 at 10:38 pm

    Shame about Baldelli. He seems like such a good guy. Unfortunately this condition doesn’t sound like something that will be easily treatable.

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  438. 441 flbravesgirl March 12, 2008 at 11:27 pm

    Helloooo…helloo…hello… Is there an echo in here?

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  439. 442 chrisklob March 12, 2008 at 11:41 pm

    Can crickets echo?

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  440. 443 flbravesgirl March 12, 2008 at 11:44 pm

    Chirp, chirp…

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  441. 444 chrisklob March 12, 2008 at 11:47 pm

    How ya feelin?

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  442. 445 flbravesgirl March 12, 2008 at 11:53 pm

    Honestly? Pretty lousy. I’m told this strain of flu is going around. Of course it’s one that wasn’t included in the flu shot this year, which I got like I always do. (my mom’s a nurse, she harps on this every year) Hope none of y’all catch it.

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  443. 446 chrisklob March 13, 2008 at 12:01 am

    Sorry you feel so lousy. Flu’s no fun. I heard that the same thing that the flu strain this year was not the one in the vaccine. Apparently, the scientists blew it this year.

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  444. 447 flbravesgirl March 13, 2008 at 12:06 am

    Well, they have to make an educated guess months ahead of time in order to start making the vaccine. I know sometimes flu strains pop up seemingly out of nowhere so this will happen every so often. Just wish I wasn’t dealing with it.

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  445. 448 chrisklob March 13, 2008 at 12:17 am

    Hang in there kid. Take two aspirin and blog with me in the morning. 🙂

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  446. 449 flbravesgirl March 13, 2008 at 12:24 am

    Thanks, Chris. I think I’m past the worst symptoms now, just dealing with feeling really exhausted and (this is tiptoeing close to a banned subject, I know) a lot of er… congestion that’s making me cough.

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  447. 450 flbravesgirl March 13, 2008 at 12:27 am

    And I think I will sign off ’til morning. Sitting here hacking is probably keeping the early-birds in the house awake. Good night.

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  448. 451 BeRiGaN 3 tHe SeArCh FoR rOcK March 13, 2008 at 1:00 am

    Sorry to hear you are still sick Flb!!! Flu hangs on sometimes, doesn’t it???

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  449. 452 Gil in Mechanicsville March 13, 2008 at 7:28 am

    FBL… It is a very nasty strand of flu this year. The first three days you think you are dying, the next three you just wish you had. Then about a week of just feeling bad. Florida was the last state to get hit by the flu bug this year.

    Josie came down with it but I managed to avoid any real case of the flu this year aside from just feeling rough for a couple of days. One advantage to no longer working for a living is I don’t get exposed to it like I once did.

    Observations from last night’s game. Best looking pitcher was Blaine Boyer. He was very much different for the lost looking soul I witness in Richmond last year. He truly looks as if he belongs in Atlanta and he thinks so too.

    McCann appears to have worked his way out of his mini slump going two for three with a double and a homer and three RBI. Not only that but he did not look as if he was hacking at the ball. Just the nice stroke we all had become accustom to in the past two years.

    Prado is obviously being given every opportunity to stay with Atlanta this year as a utility guy. he is getting lots of playing time at shortstop and has not looked shabby at that position although I don’t think he has had all that many chances. I guess the Braves are not really looking for him to make the spectacular plays but are more concerned with consistent adequacy.

    His being out of options has increased the urgency for him to make the team this year in my opinion. Lillibridge is better defensively than Prado but Brent can be sent down to Richmond this year where as Prado will get snatched up by a team like Kansas City for the $50,000 claiming fee.

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  450. 453 Salty March 13, 2008 at 7:28 am

    Wow! Six-plus hours without a post? Must be a B&S record! The crickets had a field day, but…it means some deserving folks finally got some sleep!?!

    WAKE UP, EVERYONE!!!

    Now, back to our regularly scheduled programming.

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  451. 454 Voice of Raisins March 13, 2008 at 8:21 am

    G’morning all!

    First round of cuts yesterday…

    To Richmond: pitchers Charlie Morton, Matt DeSalvo, Zach Schreiber and Phil Stockman (should make for a nice staff)

    To Pearl: the battery of Jairo Cuevas and J.C.Boscan

    To Myrtle Beach: 250 lb. C/1B Tyler Flowers and his tape measure BP shots

    To “minor league camp”: relatively unknown shortstops Javier Guzman and Diory Hernandez

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  452. 455 Voice of Raisins March 13, 2008 at 8:22 am

    … now, where’s my coffee? 😯

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  453. 456 chrisklob March 13, 2008 at 8:30 am

    Raisins, I find it interesting that they sent Flowers to MB. Of course, he finished at Rome and MB is the next higher level but the park there is one of the most difficult parks for hitters in all of minor league ball. In fact, Baseball America rated it something like 5th most difficult for hitters. It sits less that a mile from the ocean and it also faces the ocean. The prevailing breeze knocks EVERYTHING down. You’ve really got to hit a laser beam to get a ball out of that park.

    THere had been some speculation that they would send Flowers to Pearl so as not to mentally screw this kid up. Makes you wonder if they don’t want him to work on his gap-to-gap hitting there and not just the long ball.

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  454. 457 Voice of Raisins March 13, 2008 at 8:33 am

    Now, simulated baseball:

    Mike Hampton “didn’t have any tweaks, nothing going on” in his simulated game yesterday on the simulated back field at Disney’s simulated Wide World of Sports. He threw 59 simulated pitches recording one simulated strikeout and allowing 2 simulated hits. He reportedly showed good simulated velocity and movement on his simulated pitches as evidenced by two broken simulated bats found laying on the simulated field after the first 2 simulated innings.

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  455. 458 Voice of Raisins March 13, 2008 at 8:36 am

    Hampton was not available for further comment afterward as he immediately headed to the simulated clubhouse for a simulated shower…

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  456. 459 Voice of Raisins March 13, 2008 at 8:37 am

    😀

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  457. 460 paladin2008 March 13, 2008 at 8:44 am

    GOOD MORNING VIET CONG! Come on out. I won’t shoot. choock-choock.

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  458. 461 ssiscribe March 13, 2008 at 8:45 am

    NEWARK, N.J. — Top of the morning, folks. Gotta run super quick, but just wanted to report two things I found pretty cool last night in the NYC:

    1. At the Champs Sports in Times Square, on a shelf containing stacks of Mets and Yankees shirts, were a few Braves shirts, nicely folded.

    2. I saw a big dude strolling through Penn Station with a Braves hat on; not some weird version of the hat, but the honest-to-goodness Braves hat the boys wear during the season.

    Of course, there is plenty of Mets and Yankees stuff up here. Go figure. It’s New York, right. The predominant clothing of choice was Big East school gear, given the fact the Big East tourney tipped off yesterday at Madison Square Garden.

    Gotta run, then jet home. Talk later.

    –30–

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  459. 462 paladin2008 March 13, 2008 at 8:46 am

    Now if we could only simulate Raisin’s comments. 😀

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  460. 463 Voice of Raisins March 13, 2008 at 8:47 am

    ssi: How do you get that fish fryer through airport security?

    Also, I’m glad you don’t have to jet, then run home. 😀

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  461. 464 paladin2008 March 13, 2008 at 8:48 am

    I got to go take my dog to school. Back later.

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  462. 465 Gil in Mechanicsville March 13, 2008 at 9:38 am

    Nice article on one of my favorite players…. Honest, I liked this guy from day one.

    http://www.theledger.com/article/20080310/NEWS/803100364

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  463. 466 chrisklob March 13, 2008 at 9:41 am

    Gil, I like him too. And I enjoyed listening to Pendleton talk about him and his swing last night.

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  464. 467 Carolina Lady March 13, 2008 at 9:41 am

    HAPPY BIRTHDAY, RAISINS!!!
    😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆

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  465. 468 BeRiGaN 3 tHe SeArCh FoR rOcK March 13, 2008 at 9:48 am

    Good morning everyone…and Paladin. 😕
    What a way to wake up….Mother nature made an early call I simply had to answer, stumbled into the bathroom, flip on both switches, KABAMYOW!!!!!!!!!! lightbulb loudly blew out!!!! In fact, no lights(2 bulbs in fixture) and no fan!!! Great!!! Who needs lights, I know where everything is, I hope!!!!
    Well, found out circuit breaker broke….but only one of the two bulbs blew out, I thought with the noise both of the suckers grenaded themselves!!!!
    Always scares the crap out of my Dad when they blow out(They scare me too!) afraid he will have a heart attack one day from it! 😡 Anyone else notice they don’t just burn out like they used to, but now make a very loud exit????

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  466. 469 Carolina Lady March 13, 2008 at 9:50 am

    Great article, Gil!

    “He just doesn’t profile as a professional star, but the numbers don’t lie. We’re playing a game of skill, not necessarily of great athletic ability.”
    Perceptive!

    Also liked his comments about Diaz’ instincts at 1b.

    Just a really likable guy.

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  467. 470 BeRiGaN 3 tHe SeArCh FoR rOcK March 13, 2008 at 9:50 am

    Ho, Ho! It’s another birthday here on the blog!!! Happy Birthday son!!!!
    😛 😛 😛 😛 😛 😛 😛 😛 😛

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  468. 471 BeRiGaN 3 tHe SeArCh FoR rOcK March 13, 2008 at 9:52 am

    And Hello Carolina Lady!!!! 😆 I was getting worried, was just going to ask if anyone knew why you were MIA!!!! Glad to see you back! 🙂

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  469. 472 Carolina Lady March 13, 2008 at 9:57 am

    ‘Morning, Berigan! Super busy day yesterday – needed a Xerox copy of myself to cover all the bases! Thanks for noticing!! 🙂

    Received the photo, will get it processed shortly! Glad to see some new photos coming in!

    Haven’t a clue to what’s been going on in baseball the last day or two! I saw a “BRAVES WIN” comment above, so all is well in my baseball world! 😆

    Last few sips of coffee from the morning break – and back to work!

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  470. 473 BeRiGaN 3 tHe SeArCh FoR rOcK March 13, 2008 at 9:59 am

    Gil, very nice story on Matt!!!! Let’s hope he gets to play in 140+ games this year, and perhaps gets a shot at a batting title!!!!

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  471. 474 paladin2008 March 13, 2008 at 10:20 am

    Happy birthday to you. Happy birthday to you. Happy birthday, dear Raisins, Happy birthday to you. We hope you get plastered, you dirty…whoops, USMC lyrics. Can’t say here. Seriously Raisins, many happy returns! 🙂 🙄 😀

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  472. 476 chrisklob March 13, 2008 at 10:31 am

    Happy Birthday Raisins!

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  473. 477 Voice of Raisins March 13, 2008 at 10:32 am

    Thanks everybody for the birthday wishes! 😀

    This is how my birthday lays out for me: So far this morning, I’ve had to do some overdue music related work. Next, I get to go and give money to the gov’t in exchange for 2 car tags. Then I have to pick up my daughter early from school (early release due to end of semester report cards). Then, I get to return to my office to cram in a couple of hours of work for my real job before picking up my son from his school to take him for allergy shots before going to tae kwon do. I should be back home about 6:30pm. Mrs. Raisins, who is student teaching this semester, will be having parent conferences until 7:00pm. As soon as she sets foot in the door, I have to make my weekly hour+ drive to rehearsal. I’ll be home around midnight.

    Who has time for birthdays? 😐

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  474. 478 chrisklob March 13, 2008 at 10:37 am

    Raisins, life is hell once you have to grow up, isn’t it?

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  475. 479 paladin2008 March 13, 2008 at 10:38 am

    I hate it when some of my foilers/foilees get “humanized”. Case in point: Berigan. Here I thought I was giving “comeupance” to some acid-dropping hippie and he turns out to be another old man. Do I have to call you Sir, now? 😀

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  476. 480 Voice of Raisins March 13, 2008 at 10:42 am

    klobber: Who’s grown up? 😛

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  477. 481 chrisklob March 13, 2008 at 10:42 am

    Paladin, I think that was Berigan’s father, at least the caption indicated that to me.

    Berigan, Baby looks very comfortable there.

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  478. 482 Voice of Raisins March 13, 2008 at 10:43 am

    Did anybody catch that Horacio Ramirez was released by Seattle? That trade turned out OK, huh?

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  479. 483 chrisklob March 13, 2008 at 10:47 am

    Raisins, Jimmy Buffett wrote a song years ago that I always liked called “Growing Older But Not Up”. Fitting?

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  480. 484 chrisklob March 13, 2008 at 10:48 am

    Raisins, that deal was an absolute fleecing of the Mariners.

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  481. 485 paladin2008 March 13, 2008 at 10:50 am

    Birthdays are highly relative and should be discontinued at 21. After that, they just remind you of how little you have done with your life to that point, and that time is slipping away. Then, you come to the era that I find myself in where if candles representing each year were to be placed on the cake and lit, you would have a conflagration of epic proportions. Bah humbug.

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  482. 486 Voice of Raisins March 13, 2008 at 10:52 am

    Growing Older But Not Up

    Exactly…

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  483. 487 chrisklob March 13, 2008 at 10:53 am

    Note to self: Keep several fire extinguishers around the blog on April 28.

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  484. 488 Voice of Raisins March 13, 2008 at 10:53 am

    you would have a conflagration of epic proportions

    I had that; I took Imodium. (first on blog?)

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  485. 489 paladin2008 March 13, 2008 at 11:00 am

    Imodium=chemical cork. First on blog? I don’t know, but am hoping for last.

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  486. 490 chrisklob March 13, 2008 at 11:01 am

    Oh dear, journalist jimmy smith won’t like that comment at all.

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  487. 491 paladin2008 March 13, 2008 at 11:03 am

    I want to withdraw my birthday(April 28)from consideration. My dog and I celebrate our birthdays on Jan 1, when the new models come out.

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  488. 492 lew614 March 13, 2008 at 11:05 am

    Raisins-Happy Birthday. I’d be more than happy to give you a present, but all I’ve got is this lousy cold-and about 50 billion tons of snow. You’re probably better off without them.

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  489. 493 Voice of Raisins March 13, 2008 at 11:17 am

    Thanks, Lew, your well wishes are more than sufficient.

    OK, I’m off to write a check to the gov’t. Happy birthday to me! 🙄

    C-ya!

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  490. 494 journalist jimmy smith March 13, 2008 at 11:33 am

    birthday greetings to raisins from this journalist. and get well wishes to fbg. a nice poultice is on the way and jimmy smith hopes it helps. and jimmy smith lost two good friends yesterday and this is a sad day for the journalist.

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  491. 495 journalist jimmy smith March 13, 2008 at 11:37 am

    raisins, mention jimmy smith’s name and ask for a discount on the car tags. jimmy smith once went to school with al valorem.

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  492. 496 flbravesgirl March 13, 2008 at 11:38 am

    Happy Birthday, VOR!!!

    I have a ballcap from Disney that reads “I am never growing up”. Must be a common thread with bloggers in B&S-land.

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  493. 497 flbravesgirl March 13, 2008 at 11:40 am

    Thank you, jimmy.

    I’m sorry to hear of your loss.

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  494. 498 chrisklob March 13, 2008 at 11:40 am

    I’m sorry to hear about your loss journalist jimmy.

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  495. 499 morpheus45 March 13, 2008 at 11:43 am

    Morning all! If I cared enough, I’d go over to the other blog and ask Head Coach what he thinks about the Seattle trade now. At the time, when I praised it, he told me things like “This proves beyond a shadow of a doubt you know nothing about the game of baseball! What part of 2 runs or less in 2/3 of his starts don’t you understand? Give up our #2 starter next year for a lefty reliever with a funky delivery and a kid nobody’s ever heard of? I’m laughing at you so hard right now beer’s coming out of my nose. Your and idiot!” I find that I don’t really miss that place much.

    Check out my starting rotation in my Yahoo fantasy league:
    Jake Peavy
    Josh Beckett
    C.C Sabbathia
    Kelvim Escobar
    Dice-K Matsuzaka

    When Dice K’s your worst starter (he only won 15 games, the rest won 18 or more), you’re in pretty good shape.

    Off to school (and Happy B-Day, raisins).

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  496. 500 morpheus45 March 13, 2008 at 11:44 am

    Sorry to hear that, Jimmy. Alas, we must all come to it.

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  497. 501 chrisklob March 13, 2008 at 11:52 am

    Grinch, nice starting 5 you got there. Are you the only guy in that league? Or are you in a league with a bunch of ding-dongs? Can’t imagine that one team would be able to draft THAT many #1 starters.

    I have to say though, that you disappoint me. It’s almost noon and you’re still drinking beer. Beer is for breakfast dude! You should have that bottle of Jager out of the freezer already!

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  498. 502 Carolina Lady March 13, 2008 at 11:55 am

    I’m truly sorry, jimmy smith. Sincere condolences to their family and friends.
    😦

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  499. 503 morpheus45 March 13, 2008 at 11:56 am

    I was quoting Head Coach from a year and a half ago; I’m on a diet that won’t let me start beer ’till after 5. My league has 9 teams in it; I just got really lucky with pitching. Notice I didn’t mention my position players.

    I really am leaving now; y’all be good.

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  500. 504 lew614 March 13, 2008 at 12:05 pm

    Just got some bad news-not the life and death kind (unless you consider it the death of a dream). A friend of mine (from Florida AND Vermont) is Uncle of the wife of a guy named Chad Bentz. Chad is an Alaskan, born with only one hand, who actually made it to the majors with the Expos (Braves lit him up pretty badly) and also pitched briefly with the Marlins-in and of itself an amazing accomplishment. Needless to say his idol was Jim Abbot, the only other ML one handed pitcher.

    Chad never did have much success in the bigs and pitched for an Independent League team last year when no big league club would offer him a job. He did not pitch well. He is now out of baseball.

    It’s a shame, even if it is understandable-the guy bucked outrageous odds just coming from Alaska-much less having only one hand. It’s hard to call him unsuccessful given the odds he exceeded and left in the dust, but it is always sad to see a dream end. The kid did great just to get where he did. Unfortunately this is probably the only forum where his superhuman accomplishments will be praised. Ya did good, my boy. Ya did good.

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  501. 505 lew614 March 13, 2008 at 12:15 pm

    The Grinch thinks he has the best pitching staff. However, mine consists of Smoltz, Hudson, Brandon Webb, Roy Oswalt, Bronson Arroyo, Trevor Hoffman and Rafael Betancourt.

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  502. 506 lew614 March 13, 2008 at 12:27 pm

    And also Joe Nathan

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  503. 507 BeRiGaN 3 tHe SeArCh FoR rOcK March 13, 2008 at 12:28 pm

    JJS,
    Very sorry to hear about the passing of your two friends!

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  504. 508 Voice of Raisins March 13, 2008 at 12:29 pm

    OK, I am back after squeezing a few more drops of blood out for the Ga. Dept. of Revenue. Dirty @#$%^&*’s.

    jjs: I am very sorry for your loss.

    Lew: Sounds to me like the kid is very successful on many levels. Kudos to Chad!

    Gotta work… C-y’all!

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  505. 509 chrisklob March 13, 2008 at 12:35 pm

    Lew, while the story temporarily has a sad ending, I find it uplifting. To reach the majors, against the odds he faced, is truly an inspiring story. Something tells me that this young man has learned a lot about how to be successful in life. Perhaps being a star in the majors was not his destiny, but surely he will find that stardom elsewhere in his life.

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  506. 510 lew614 March 13, 2008 at 12:47 pm

    Chris-Just so he doesn’t become a motivational speaker living in a trailer down by the river, the ending will probably be prettyhappy.

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  507. 511 chrisklob March 13, 2008 at 12:50 pm

    LOL Lew! Matt Foley was always my favorite Chris Farley character.

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  508. 512 journalist jimmy smith March 13, 2008 at 1:07 pm

    journalist thanks all for the condolences. life is precious. life is fragile. try for no regrets.

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  509. 513 paladin2008 March 13, 2008 at 1:09 pm

    Sorry about your loss, jimmy. I am at an age where, when I use to start with sports, now I read the obits. I know how you feel.

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  510. 514 Voice of Raisins March 13, 2008 at 2:19 pm

    Any game reports today?

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  511. 515 Voice of Raisins March 13, 2008 at 2:39 pm

    I’m out until midnight or later…

    C-y’all!

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  512. 516 BeRiGaN 3 tHe SeArCh FoR rOcK March 13, 2008 at 2:53 pm

    so….who is the best of the best 5 tool players???? Hey, I just report, you decide!
    http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20080313&content_id=2423760&vkey=spt2008news&fext=.jsp&c_id=mlb

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  513. 517 chrisklob March 13, 2008 at 3:20 pm

    Berigan, I saw that list earlier today. Have to say that I’m puzzled by the absence of David Wright’s name. I thought he would be atop each category, including the pitching-related ones.

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  514. 518 Gil in Mechanicsville March 13, 2008 at 4:18 pm

    Rasins… Sorry I missed your birthday this morning. I hope you have many happy returns of the day. One bit of advice from one who has been there and done that. Sometimes you really do need to stop and smell the roses because life speeds by faster than you may realize.

    Burning the candle at both ends can make a pretty light but the like Berigan’s circuit breaker, the net results will be that loud boom heard by everyone else and the lights will go out…

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  515. 519 Gil in Mechanicsville March 13, 2008 at 4:32 pm

    And from the “What it’s Worth” department. Another player traded by the Braves flops in his new environs. I don’t know about you folks but I would never, never, ever buy a used car form John Shurholtz.

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  516. 520 Gil in Mechanicsville March 13, 2008 at 4:35 pm

    Jimmy Smith, I am sorry to hear of your loss. One is bad enough but to lose two friends in the same week is a blow….

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  517. 521 chrisklob March 13, 2008 at 4:35 pm

    GIl, he surely does have an uncanny ability to sell high, doesn’t he? Amazing that anyone would consider doing business with him, as many times as he’s fleeced other GM’s.

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  518. 522 Gil in Mechanicsville March 13, 2008 at 4:37 pm

    I see where the pitcher who the Braves traded Kansas City for Tony Pena Jr is having Tommy John surgery again on the same elbow.

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  519. 523 Gil in Mechanicsville March 13, 2008 at 4:39 pm

    Nice report on Gregor Blanco on the Braves’ MLB site today.

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  520. 524 paladin2008 March 13, 2008 at 5:48 pm

    Amazingly little talk about today’s tie with Detroit. Looks to me like Jo-Jo is punching himself a ticket to Richmond and Bouchard(remember that name)needs to be house-hunting in Atlanta. Meanwhile, Chipper, L-bridge, Prado and Chucky done good. For those that don’t know: 6-6 tie, but Chucky pitched 2 innings with 1 hit, no bb and no runs.

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  521. 525 paladin2008 March 13, 2008 at 5:56 pm

    Looks as though the Yankee-Devil Ray games will be a good watch this season…if you like hockey(Go to a fight and a game breaks out). If this “payback” continues, somebody is going to get some serious fines and/or suspension(s).

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  522. 526 paladin2008 March 13, 2008 at 6:02 pm

    Seems I just “educated” the crickets. Oh well, I’ll go eat and then maybe someone will have come in by then. But, I may not be in the mood to talk baseball, then. 😈

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  523. 527 paladin2008 March 13, 2008 at 6:08 pm

    Listen up crickets: I remember the name, now if I can remember how to spell it. B-o-r-c-h-a-r-d.

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  524. 528 williamwallace March 13, 2008 at 6:12 pm

    Happy birthday to the birthday boys and my condolences to Jimmy

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  525. 529 ssiscribe March 13, 2008 at 6:15 pm

    NEWARK, N.J. — Sitting at the ol’ airport, about an hour from cueing up the old rock song by (I believe) Wet Willie:

    “On my way back to Georgia.”

    Paladin, I wrote a short burst on my blog this morning at http://www.bigleagueblog.net about the Yanks and Rays brawl yesterday.

    The funny thing, which I didn’t have time to get into on my blog this morning, was how in the papers up here yesterday, the Yanks really were downplaying the game and any talk of revenge. Either they were sandbaggin’, or ol Shelley Duncan just took things into his own hands.

    The play Saturday where the Yankees’ minor-league catcher was injured was — unlike the slide yesterday — a good, hard baseball play. Yes, it’s an exhibition game, but at the same time, the Rays have been doormats for years. The point I made on my blog was Tampa Bay will be better this year, but they won’t contend. Whenever they play the Yanks, even in the spring, the game takes on more importance.

    I’m already tired of hearing Joe Girardi whining. He needs to worry about beating out the Red Sox for the division title. The play at second yesterday with Duncan wasn’t clean and he should be suspended for it. Gomes accelerated things by sprinting in from right field and blowing it wide open; he should be suspended, too.

    Now, the Braves (noted transition): Been behind while up here in the land of the Muts and Skanks (literary license by the Scribe; take note, JJS). See where Chuckie pitched today. See where Jo Jo punched his ticket to Richmond. See where Borchard is making things interesting for one of those bench spots. But can the dude play first base well enough if Tex were to get hit with a pitch and have to miss two or three days?

    OK, time to get ready to fly back to Atlanta. I’m so thankful to live in the South. It’s so pretty. The weather is so warm. The women are so beautiful, especially one in particular and the two little boys who are waiting for me to make it to the house later this evening.

    Enjoy your evening.

    The Scribe abides.

    –30–

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  526. 530 ssiscribe March 13, 2008 at 6:25 pm

    NEWARK, N.J. — Just glanced at a few posts above.

    Jimmy, our sincerest prayers and thoughts go out on the loss of your friends. You are right about life being fragile. Do not have regrets. Live it to the fullest. Pour your heart and soul into doing what is right, in trying to honor God and make your family proud in all your efforts. Again, best wishes, my friend.

    Lew, you are so right. Chad has much to be proud of in his life and career. I hope others out there notice what he has accomplished.

    Grinch, you got a good staff. Mine consists of Huddy, Maddux, Glavine, Wainwright, Acosta, Penny, Valverde, Jonathan Broxton (could be L.A. closer if Saito gets hurt or falters), and a ninth spot that will consist of either Doug Davis, Claudio Vargas or Chris Capuano. I feel pretty good about my pitching. Offense? That’s another story.

    Raisins, Happy Birthday dude! Party time up there in the land of the mighty Dragons, right? (covered a few games up that way many moons ago). And who’s next? Hillbilly? Somebody else. Lotta birthdays in March.

    And I hope HoRam lands on his feet. Nice guy. Lakers fan (never held that against him). Wish him the best.

    Need a cup o’ joe before flying home. Later, denizens.

    The Scribe abides.

    –30–

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  527. 531 paladin2008 March 13, 2008 at 7:34 pm

    Scribe; Welcome home! I don’t live in the Atlanta area any more, but then, I don’t have a wonderful wife and two loving boys waiting for me, either. Enjoy your homecoming and we look forward to your future posts, as usual.

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  528. 532 Bob, journalist March 13, 2008 at 7:50 pm

    Happy Birthday, mon ami!

    Ironically, I spent much of Tuesday evening writing a long letter to my son … entitled “42 going on 16” … and sent it to him just before reading yesterday’s posts. It contained the following wisdom … borrowed from one of the great minds of our times, methinks … “My only advice to anyone would be to find that thing in their heart that causes the most passion, excitement and fulfillment, then go after it with everything they’ve got … because whatever that might be, it is the defining essence as to their purpose in life … that thing that they just can’t imagine living without … it can only be found lurking somewhere within the heart, never within the intellect … when it is discovered, embrace it, then use the intellect to bring it to realization … passion … then vision … it is a rough road if you lack either!” … strong stuff!

    Sir James, news of your loss saddens us and we offer our sincere condolences to you, yours, and theirs. Perhaps now is not the best of times for foolishness but I’m for some reason reminded of one of George Griffin’s stories, which may bring a smile … this one about a young man Coach Alexander recruited to play football at Tech … touted as the next “Galloping Ghost” … he had but one weakness … mathematics, especially quadratics in algebra.

    He flunked the freshman entrance examination but he was so good that Coach Alex hired a full time tutor just for him … he studied hard all summer, with Alex checking his progress every week and things seemed to be going quite well.

    The night before he was to retake the examination, he seemed truly excited and full of confidence … told Coach Alex that he had nothing to worry about! As the coach breathed a sigh of relief and was walking toward the door, the young man said … “there’s just one thing … why can’t they make up their minds?”

    Puzzled, Coach Alex asked “What do you mean … make up their minds?”

    “Well, it’s nothing really important … just ‘2’ and that letter ‘X‘ … sometimes they put the two (2) in front and alongside the ‘X’ … and sometimes it’s behind and above the ‘X’ … Coach, why can’t they make up their minds?”

    Dean Griffin always swore that it was a true story … the kid didn’t pass the test and didn’t play for us … but, he had gumption … not to be confused with common sense and, as memory serves, methinks he became a successful beet righter … that, or a professor in Athens.

    With deep onion layered transition … I hate it when some of my foilers/foilees get “humanized”. Case in point: Berigan. Here I thought I was giving “comeupance” to some acid-dropping hippie and he turns out to be another old man. Do I have to call you Sir, now? … I assume it’s supposed to be humorous … but, like the young man with the quadratics, I somehow missed the point.

    Time for a Charlie Chan movie and supper …

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  529. 533 paladin2008 March 13, 2008 at 7:56 pm

    There you go again, Bob, involving yourself in something that is not only none of your damn business, but which you admit you don’t understand. Have your movie and supper, get in the tub, and chill. That is a mixed methaphor, but you are as well. Good night.

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  530. 534 williamwallace March 13, 2008 at 8:03 pm

    Paladin, do you need a hug?

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  531. 535 paladin2008 March 13, 2008 at 8:09 pm

    And BTW Bob, before you make any more snide comments about professors at UGA, check the number of Rhodes Scholars and leaders of industry in GA that graduated from Athens as compared to those who chose to do differential and intregal calculus at North Avenue PU. And, I know both differential and intregal calculus.

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  532. 536 paladin2008 March 13, 2008 at 8:10 pm

    NEPHEW!!! Where you been? I can always use a hug.

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  533. 537 williamwallace March 13, 2008 at 8:11 pm

    Who needs some gardening tips from Gene Garber? Here is an old CNN profile out there on youtube about the garden the 1987 bullpen losers for the Braves grew. It’s no wonder they stunk.

    Can’t tell what is funnier about that clip: the line from the anchor at the end or that Craig Sager was wearing a normal blazer.

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  534. 538 williamwallace March 13, 2008 at 8:14 pm

    Paladin, I’ve been around but not posting much. Just reading. How’s school going?

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  535. 539 lew614 March 13, 2008 at 8:15 pm

    Paladin-The whole situation could be dealt with by taking out Girardi in the next fight-before he destroys the Yankees’ young pitchers like he did the Marlins’. If he decides to tell a Steinbrenner to shut up during a game in public, he might have a hit put out on him instead of just getting fired like he did in Florida.

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  536. 540 paladin2008 March 13, 2008 at 8:17 pm

    Further the affiant sayeth not. How am I doing?

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  537. 541 paladin2008 March 13, 2008 at 8:20 pm

    Lew; I’m a fighter by nature and getting upset over a young player playing hard(but clean) baseball, trying to make the team, is ludicrous.

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  538. 542 williamwallace March 13, 2008 at 8:20 pm

    Some pitching tips for kids from Zane Smith:

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  539. 543 Bob, journalist March 13, 2008 at 8:22 pm

    There you go again, Bob, involving yourself in something that is not only none of your damn business, but which you admit you don’t understand. Have your movie and supper, get in the tub, and chill. That is a mixed methaphor, but you are as well” … perhaps you consider it your prerogative to so express yourself but I wasn’t attempting to involve myself in anything … i considered your post to be for public consumption and response … I truly didn’t understand your comment … still don’t.

    As an aside, I’m not sure what a “methaphor” is but neither do I see a mixed metaphor in that which you wrote.

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  540. 544 paladin2008 March 13, 2008 at 8:23 pm

    ww; I was there during those days and ANYTHING that took attention away from how bad the team was, was welcome.

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  541. 545 paladin2008 March 13, 2008 at 8:25 pm

    Have a great day, and night, Bob.

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  542. 546 paladin2008 March 13, 2008 at 8:33 pm

    I’m not in a turn the other cheek mood tonight.

    “Metaphor (from the Greek: μεταφορά – metaphora, “a transfer”, in rhetoric “transference of a word to a new sense”, from μεταφέρω – metaphero, “to carry over, to transfer”) is language that directly compares seemingly unrelated subjects. In the simplest case, this takes the form: “The [first subject] is a [second subject].” More generally, a metaphor is a rhetorical trope that describes a first subject as being or equal to a second subject in some way. Thus, the first subject can be economically described because implicit and explicit attributes from the second subject are used to enhance the description of the first. This device is known for usage in literature, especially in poetry, where with few words, emotions and associations from one context are associated with objects and entities in a different context.”

    Get in a HOT tub and CHILL. Get it? No, I didn’t think so.

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  543. 547 lew614 March 13, 2008 at 8:43 pm

    Paladin-I agree. That was a clean play and if the catcher is trying to prove to his manager how tough he is by blocking the plate like he did, then he opens himself up to getting laid out, like he did.

    I can’t stand Girardi. As Marlin’s manager, he not only proved himself a complete jerk-you just do NOT call your owner out on National TV right on the field like he did. I mean can you imagine Bobby Cox pulling that crap?

    Then to compound matters, Girardi took that wonderful young pitching staff and by attempting to prove how great a motivator he was by having that extremely young team over-exceed themselves at a very young age, devastated those pitchers. Four of them have seen surgery and Sanchez, who pitched a no hitter is STILL out two years later-maybe never to be the same. Another one just went on the DL again this week. Dontrelle has NEVER been the same. All just to make Girardi look good.

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  544. 548 williamwallace March 13, 2008 at 8:48 pm

    Paladin, I agree. Girardi didn’t hit that triple off the wall in Game 6 of 1996 off Maddux crawling up in the fetal position just because he was facing the greatest pitcher of his generation. You think Joe Torre liked having a fighter like Girardi hanging around up in the Yankees broadcast booth itching to take Torre’s job AFTER Torre had positioned Girardi to become a manager by making Girardi his bench coach?

    It’s hypocritical for Girardi to question how tough or scrappy people are in trying to get ahead in this game. He was a crappy player that made it all those years by being scrappy himself. It’s the reason Don Zimmer got rid of Mike Stanley and brought Girardi to the 1996 Yankees in the first place.

    I’m hoping the Braves take Jose Reyes out hard at second in the first series against the Mets this year. The Braves need to land the first punch against the Mets this year. The Mets have no heart. Landing the first punch just might finish them.

    From what Lew keeps saying and what I keep hearing from others, Josh Anderson just might be the kid who lands that first punch for the Braves. I also would bet that Yunel does it. I also would not put it past Jair to dust someone. I hope he does.

    The Braves have so many young hitters and pitchers. I just have a very funny feeling that they they are angry about the lack of respect being shown to them and they will not leave that first series against the Mets without bloodying the mouth of at least one Met. Or at least I’m hoping.

    Something has to change. I’m tired of hearing these kids claim those 14 division titles. These kids really had no part of that.

    It’s like when someone asked Derek Jeter after the 2003 World Series what it was like for the team to suffer disappointment after so much success and Jeter corrected the reporters and said this team with these players have not had any success. That was a different team with different players that won those World Series games.

    The 14 divisions are a thing of the past. These kids really had no part of it. It’s time for them to claim their own identity and stop pretending to be a part of a something that they really weren’t. It would be great if they come out swinging and fighting hard against the Mets the first week.

    Something has to change. I remember towards the end of last season, Journalist Jimmy said something about having all of these young kids who don’t act like young kids and how it disturbed him. I thought it was the most astute observation of the entire season from a blogger. It is past time for these kids to take the team from Smoltz, Chipper, and Bobby and claim it as their own. Those punks in the early 90s were not sitting around, waiting for permission

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  545. 549 paladin2008 March 13, 2008 at 8:48 pm

    Lew; I can’t understand why George gave the job to Girardi but Im betting he doesn’t last out the season. Want to bet?

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  546. 550 paladin2008 March 13, 2008 at 8:52 pm

    ww; I really missed your insights. As I have said before, you know your baseball. But, your and idiot. 😀

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  547. 551 paladin2008 March 13, 2008 at 9:02 pm

    I know Raisins said he wouldn’t be back until midnight. But, where are Klobber, Berigan, FBG and the other regulars for this time of night? Are you waiting for the old man to go to bed? Soon.

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  548. 552 paladin2008 March 13, 2008 at 9:10 pm

    OK, I can take a hint. No body wants to talk. So, I’ll head in for a fantasy encounter with Ashley Dupre. The satisfaction, I would think, will be decidedly less, but so will the consequences. C y’all.

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  549. 553 chrisklob March 13, 2008 at 9:22 pm

    All right, now that Paladin has gone to bed, the rest of us can come out and play!

    Just kiddin’ Paladin. Been gone since about 4.30. Son had a loooong baseball practice and my daughter had a chorus performance (where she had a solo and did an outstanding job, thankyouverymuch) so I just got home a little bit ago and have been trying to get caught up.

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  550. 554 williamwallace March 13, 2008 at 9:29 pm

    G’Nite Paladin. i’ll talk to you more tomorrow. I miss feeding off of ya and SG and Jimmy and Grinch and SJA and hell, everyone on here, when we would all decide to ridicule and torture and dance circles around the And Idiots. It’s not the same wandering around the Land of the Thinking Dead without you hellraisers

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  551. 555 chrisklob March 13, 2008 at 9:39 pm

    Willy Wally, if you miss us so much, why the hell don’t you come around a little more often?

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  552. 556 Gil in Mechanicsville March 13, 2008 at 9:39 pm

    Funny thing that no one give R Braves Guy Hansen any credit but everyone of the projects sent to him last year is much improved due to corrected mechanics.

    Boyer, Bennett, Carlyle, Moylan, Acosta….. Sounds like a good track record to me.

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  553. 557 williamwallace March 13, 2008 at 9:42 pm

    Klobber, I know you love your kid but I don’t know how the heck you sit through Little League practices. It must be hell. I guess having your kid playing makes it halfway tolerable. But I always found them quite boring and tedious when I was playing. Probably because I spent the rest of the day practicing and playing with my brother.

    But, then again, I watched my niece play soccer the other day when I was picking her up from daycare. I was prepared for the worst. Watching a bunch of pre K kids play soccer was not my idea of fun. But it turned out to be just about the most fun I have had in quite a long time. The game ended in a 7-7 tie. My little niece scored all 7 goals for her team. You should have seen the little brute. She was charging into the piles and scrums and knocking everyone over. I have never laughed and cheered so hard. It made me so darn proud. She is such a rough brute like my brother and his wife. But she’s still a princess like her momma. Won’t wear anything but sandals and dresses like her momma does. When I went and bought her some food afterwards, she refused to eat it because a fly hovered around the table at one point. Such a female. I had to go buy her another meal. No different than alot of dates I have been on throughout the years. My little future Mia Hamm.

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  554. 558 chrisklob March 13, 2008 at 9:57 pm

    WW, I’m assuming you don’t have any children of your own (that you are aware of). Always gotta put the qualifier in there for legal reasons! 🙂 You know that pride and joy you felt watching your niece? Multiply that by 100 and that’s what it’s like to watch your own child perform. Seriously.

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  555. 559 chrisklob March 13, 2008 at 10:07 pm

    Oh and Mia Hamm? Hopefully not in the personality department. I met her and Nomar a few years ago. He was very nice and stopped and talked a little Boston/NY baseball. She came off as a stone cold witch.

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  556. 560 journalist jimmy smith March 13, 2008 at 10:15 pm

    chipper has been talking with terence moore. making use of some new cliches. did not say repertoire, though. have a read:

    “You can’t ever let your hair down,” said Jones, with a slight sigh, while glancing toward the field from the dugout at Champion Stadium. “You can’t ever let up, because whatever you do or say, it’s constantly placed under a microscope by everybody. Not just by the media, but by the young guys. So it’s imperative that you dot your i’s and cross your t’s and make sure that you do everything spot-up.”

    pretty deep. taking ’em one at a time and making ’em count.

    oh, the humanity!

    jimmy smith likes to talk baseball hear and welcomes ww back to the blog known for multi-syllable posts. sometimes spelling and grammer are not too good but intentions always are honorable. few and idiots hear.

    and borchard and james – night have predicted both from reading this blog early on. chucky threw no cheese and that is the issue.

    and a sad day for this journalist but jimmy smith thanks all for the nice condolences. two funerals in one day will not make for a happy weekend. remember to extend kindness to friends at all times – never know when the opportunities will end.

    and now, blossom watch. jimmy smith is again watching cnn. can hardly stand it but certainly worth it to see beautiful blossom. also have to see james carville and larry king though – so balances out. not fair and balanced. more like beauty and ugly balanced.

    😆

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  557. 561 williamwallace March 13, 2008 at 10:18 pm

    Klobber, the last time I blogged here substantially I got into it with Lew for reasons I don’t think either of us understand which caused Paladin to tease us which caused Bob to get on Paladin which caused Paladin to go after Bob which caused SJA to go after me and Paladin which caused SG to tangle with SJA which ended up with SJA leaving for good (he says) and CL being angry and the rest being uncomfortable and sad. All over Pedro and Sandy. Imagine that.

    It made me feel very bad because this is a very special and peaceful place where friends come to meet without any drama. Knowing my limitations and my harmful tendencies to argue, often in a fashion uglier than intended, instead of merely discussing the topic, and how that unfortunately creates drama like that last time, I’m trying not to ruin everyone else’s enjoyment of CL’s great place.

    So, not blogging more here is not a sign of disrespect. It’s more of a sign of the utmost respect.

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  558. 562 williamwallace March 13, 2008 at 10:20 pm

    Rick Sutcliffe has colon cancer. I hope he recovers and beats it. Joe Torre and Eric Davis did. He’s too young to succumb to something like that.

    http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3291777

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  559. 563 chrisklob March 13, 2008 at 10:26 pm

    ww, are you a lawyer or a salesman?

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  560. 564 chrisklob March 13, 2008 at 10:26 pm

    or maybe a politician?

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  561. 565 williamwallace March 13, 2008 at 10:27 pm

    Klobber, did you see that article about Nomar recently by that Pearlman punk on Espn.com? Of course, that punk who took out Rocker all those years ago is doing his usual practice of being a jerk of a journalist and doing a hatchet job by attacking Nomar throughout the entire article:

    http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=pearlman/080303

    Maybe Nomar is a jerk and deserves a story like that just like Rocker arguably deserved it. The story doesn’t paint the prettiest picture of Nomar. But that Pearlman punk is a loser who has no business being a journalist. When you contrast his negative style with that of Peter Gammons, you can’t have any respect for Pearlman whatsoever. Gammons loves the sport, the players and everything and everyone involved with the game. This Pearlman punk only seems to love himself and trying to make a name for himself by destroying players at their worst moments.

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  562. 566 Bay Area Steve March 13, 2008 at 10:31 pm

    The man can make his case, that’s for sure barkeep. But his niece oughta pass the ball once in a while.

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  563. 567 chrisklob March 13, 2008 at 10:34 pm

    WW, haven’t read this article but I will right now. I subscribed to SI from the time I was about 10-11 up until the Rocker incident — probably 25 years. Between that article and the one about David Wells, I discovered that they were just a sports-related version of National Enquirer or some other low level rag. I dropped that junk immediately. I may have bought five or six since then (and I’ll bet those were mostly swimsuit issues) 😀

    Rocker was taken advantage of, plain and simple. Small town boy, immature and full of himself because of his mlb success. Some pinhead sticks a mike in his face and finds out he hit paydirt because Rocker doesn’t know when to shut up.

    You know, I hear on sports radio all the time that interviewers are sick of the cliches. “One day at a time”, “I’m just happy to be here”, etc., etc. Don’t those idiots know that these athletes train themselves to use these tired old cliches because they’re afraid they might say something stupid and get the Rocker Treatment?

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  564. 568 chrisklob March 13, 2008 at 10:38 pm

    The usual Steve?

    What, you trying to say that she’s the Kobe Bryant of small-fry soccer?

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  565. 569 Bay Area Steve March 13, 2008 at 10:40 pm

    Oooh…not that bad. AI maybe. Good to see you again ww.

    and please on the whiskey.

    Belated thoughts for the journalist (lower case one). And Mr. Savannah.

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  566. 570 chrisklob March 13, 2008 at 10:43 pm

    WW, you know, I think I might have to agree with Pearlman, as much as it pains me to say so.

    My Dad has a saying: “It doesn’t cost extra to be nice to people”. I try to remember that little saying every day. Saying please and thank you, holding the door for someone, looking someone in the eye and smiling and saying hello, just little things.

    Granted, we don’t know what was in his head today that may have preoccupied his thoughts but Nomar could have very easily been cordial to people. I don’t know if you read the blog that I wrote back in January about Jeff Francoeur being the keynote speaker at a banquet my son and I attended. Frenchy couldn’t have been any nicer without people wondering if he was a phony or on drugs. He spent a couple of minutes speaking with my 10 year old, took pictures, signed autographs, everything. Matt will remember that day forever and thankfully it will be a good memory.

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  567. 571 Salty March 13, 2008 at 10:43 pm

    Klobber, the last time I blogged here substantially I got into it with Lew for reasons I don’t think either of us understand which caused Paladin to tease us which caused Bob to get on Paladin which caused Paladin to go after Bob which caused SJA to go after me and Paladin which caused SG to tangle with SJA which ended up with SJA leaving for good (he says) and CL being angry and the rest being uncomfortable and sad. All over Pedro and Sandy. Imagine that.

    Days of our Lives? OH…I have a headache! 😦 Klobber…can you pour me three fingers?

    Welcome back, WW! 😆

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  568. 572 chrisklob March 13, 2008 at 10:47 pm

    Welcome back Salty. How’s your project coming along?

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  569. 573 journalist jimmy smith March 13, 2008 at 10:52 pm

    chrisklob, if chipper is trained to talk that way then all of humanity is in trouble. not wanting to say something stupid is an interesting concept. better to avoid the interview altogether rather than validating the fear. and jimmy smith does not share terence moore’s opinion that chipper is a leader. mccann, maybe. chipper, not yet. still needs some time. and why mccann? why do bloggers think jimmy smith considers mccann a leader?

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  570. 574 Salty March 13, 2008 at 10:56 pm

    Moving at glacial speed! Trying to wrap the final 1% detail seems to bring out the ‘am and idiot’ in otherwise smart folks. Or, perhaps they really aren’t that smart. Regardless, it’s very close now! 🙂

    And you?

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  571. 575 Bay Area Steve March 13, 2008 at 10:56 pm

    Man, tough article on Nomar. Yet, when Chris met him, he was nice. Maybe just a bad day….with the SI guy watching VERY closely. The thing I wonder is if the same could be said for many others in the league. If so, seems unfair to single Nomar out.

    And what the heck happened to him? I remember people wanting Nomar over ARod, Jeter, and Tejada all those years ago. And my mind immediately thinks of PEDs…fair or otherwise.

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  572. 576 chrisklob March 13, 2008 at 11:00 pm

    journalist jimmy smith, if you or I say something stupid it doesn’t generally cause a big stink. Well actually if you say something stupid (which of course you never would) it would be a big stink given your status as journalist. But for us mere mortals, it’s typically not a huge deal. For someone like Chipper, uh, with all the, uh, you know, cameras and, uh, microphones around all the time it can be, uh, very damaging. I can only believe that is why you hear so many “canned” responses in interviews.

    I don’t see Chipper as a leader, at least not as a vocal one. You can’t fault him for that. Leadership skills are something that you are born with, like the color of your hair. You can either lead, or you can’t. I don’t fault Chipper for not being more of a leader.

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  573. 577 flbravesgirl March 13, 2008 at 11:01 pm

    Good evening, gentlemen. Nice to see WW join us today.

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  574. 578 chrisklob March 13, 2008 at 11:01 pm

    Still looking Salty. Glad to hear you’re about to put pen to paper. That’s awesome.

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  575. 579 Bay Area Steve March 13, 2008 at 11:03 pm

    Good grief….trying to think along with jjs….I think my head’s going to explode. Can’t just be because he’s a catcher. Folically challenged? Appropriate number and condition of toes? I need help.

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  576. 580 journalist jimmy smith March 13, 2008 at 11:05 pm

    yes, journalist can remember getting into the occasional fray on that other blog. sometimes with the personable host. but jimmy smith did enjoy some of the other bloggers – remember the one that gave us pole and poll and fowl pohl? or was that last one foul powl? not sure. miss that. and who can forget glenbo , elephant blogger? miss that, too. and pre-madonna. not saying this baseball blog is cerebral but can say with certainty that most hear know what cerebral means. and whither the headline writers hear? more than one controversy was blamed on the headline writer there. call it accountability. call it wearing big boy pants. or call it weak character. must decide for one’s self.

    and carolina lady must be researching tonight. so, jimmy smith will leave with the word “keytodoghouse”. oh, what is jimmy smith thinking? sure to be banned now. but not until carolina lady comes back. :mrgreen:

    sorry, carolina lady. jimmy smith will behave better on tuesday for a — remark today.

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  577. 581 chrisklob March 13, 2008 at 11:06 pm

    BAS, I met Nomar under very strange circumstances. A few years ago, the US National Women’s Soccer team (or whateverthehellitiscalled) was in town for a week or so training at a local minor league soccer facility. It happened to be just before Valentine’s Day, which was just before Nomar had to report to ST in FLA and just a few months before they were to be married.

    A friend of mine and I connected the dots and had a real strong suspicion that he might be in town. Young lovers, Valentine’s Day, preparing for a long separation, etc. etc. I found out when her practices were and went to one of them and he was there. There were about 20 kids (all girls) who had come to get soccer autographs but there were only two of us waiting for Nomar (another of my friends). Basically, there was a small “throng” of people there but they weren’t there for him. As I said, he was quite nice and signed a baseball (sweetspot) and a card for a set I’m working on. I also had Mia sign the top panel of the ball just above him. Pretty cool.

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  578. 582 Salty March 13, 2008 at 11:07 pm

    Don’t say ‘pen to paper’, Klobber! CL will think I’m writing a lead…don’t know if I have that much time…yet! Actually, she knows it will just show in the ‘mail’ one day (hopefully soon) and she scrub it up and make it presentable.

    Top o’ the evenin, FBG!

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  579. 583 chrisklob March 13, 2008 at 11:09 pm

    Hi FBG, feeling better?

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  580. 584 chrisklob March 13, 2008 at 11:09 pm

    Salty, you do owe the team one still, dontcha?

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  581. 585 flbravesgirl March 13, 2008 at 11:11 pm

    Because Mac never makes excuses, plays dinged-up, tries to play the right way?

    Although I think Chipper is more of a leader than you’re giving him credit for. He’s not the vocal rah-rah guy because that’s not his personality but I think he does a good job of taking the young guys under his wing & teaching them in a quiet way.

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  582. 586 flbravesgirl March 13, 2008 at 11:13 pm

    I think I’m on the mend. Thanks.

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  583. 587 williamwallace March 13, 2008 at 11:21 pm

    Even worse, Klobber. A lawyer who works for a politician. But not after tomorrow. I’m quitting and gonna move my practice into other areas that might make me happier. I’m tired of the wrong thing being done or nothing being done and being a part of the machine that justifies it. I have been absolutely miserable the last year doing what I do. I wish I could get into more detail about it but I can’t for the obvious reasons. Money makes you hang onto things you should never hang onto.

    I hopefully won’t be blogging much at all over the next few months because I am about to move on to doing some things that are more exciting and more challenging and outside my areas of expertise and I won’t need to escape to the blogs as much as I have over the past year in order to get some relief because I was so frustrated with my job.

    When I took it 5 years ago, I thought I could make a difference from within the system. I was dead wrong. So I am gonna switch to the other side and try to change it in small ways by attacking the system and the incompetent buffoons who participate in it. I probably won’t make the slightest bit of difference from outside the system either but at least I can prove my point to some of the participants within the system who don’t want to know just how ignorant they are about how screwed up, incompetent, and out of touch they truly are with what is going on with the lives of the people we play God with everyday…. well that is when we are not pretending we are Godlike because it is so convenient to do so when the outcome becomes so horrendous … but of course we pay lip service, even shed a few crocodile tears but none of us want to accept any of our shared responsibility in making the tragic outcome inevitable

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  584. 588 Salty March 13, 2008 at 11:22 pm

    I’m in the line-up, yes, but there are others who need to come off the ‘inactive list’ and do some publishin’ of their own.

    I am chipping away and, I guess could be working on it now rather than bloggin’, but doggone it, I haven’t done this in ages…pent up demand, so to speak.

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  585. 589 Gil in Mechanicsville March 13, 2008 at 11:23 pm

    “It is better to remain silent and have half the world think you are a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt” Mark Twain….

    I really should heed that sage advice more often myself… 🙂

    Yes WW… as a veteran of many youth league sporting matches with 7 kids, I can tell you it is never really boring, especially when you realize how fleeting the moment can be. I think it is better to have witnessed an offspring score the winning goal, pass for the winning touchdown, drive in the winning run than it ever was to have done so myself.

    Now, I’m just happy to be here, blogging one post at a time, trying not to do too much and keeping my focus between the lines… 🙂

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  586. 590 flbravesgirl March 13, 2008 at 11:24 pm

    Good luck, WW. Money isn’t worth being that unhappy in your work.

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  587. 591 Salty March 13, 2008 at 11:25 pm

    WW…wonderful passion and conviction. I wish you absolutely the best!

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  588. 592 chrisklob March 13, 2008 at 11:27 pm

    WW, I always knew you were a slick bass turd.

    You know what, I just quit a job I absolutely hated too. Miserable job, working for miserable people. Worst part is that two years ago it was a great job and great people. It’s the absolutely most liberating feeling in the world when you can walk away from the B.S. of work.

    I sincerely wish you the best of luck in your future endeavors and certainly hope you won’t become a stranger at Klobber’s Knob Creek Saloon. I’ll keep your spot at the bar open though, just in case.

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  589. 593 williamwallace March 13, 2008 at 11:28 pm

    Hey Salty, Jimmy, and FBG, what’s going on?

    Klobber, I have always liked Nomar. Thought it was so tragic when the Bosox traded him. Kinda broke my heart even though I hate the Red Sox. He’s one of those guys that should have played in Boston forever no matter how bad he got. If he left, it should have been on his own terms like when Dale Murphy requested that he be traded. But that Pearlman story does not paint a pretty picture. But then again, it is Pearlman painting the picture and I don’t trust a word that jerk ever says even when he is telling the truth.

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  590. 594 flbravesgirl March 13, 2008 at 11:29 pm

    Now, revisiting an earlier topic: Pics I saw today showed Duncan doing his best Ty Cobb impersonation. His spikes were most definitely too high. He put a 3-inch gash in Aki’s thigh. I think a suspension is in order. And Girardi is annoying the heck out of me.

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  591. 595 chrisklob March 13, 2008 at 11:30 pm

    Damn Gil, seven kids? Did it take you THAT long to figure out what causes that? 😀

    You’re right about the fleeting moments. Mine are still “only” 10 and 12 but it’s amazing how fast they grow up. I look at our daugher (12) and see her becoming more and more independent every day and it makes me sad. Hopefully she’ll keep a warm spot in her heart for old man.

    Love your last paragraph. Sound like you could be a professional athlete at heart!

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  592. 596 journalist jimmy smith March 13, 2008 at 11:35 pm

    journalist recalls baby seal’s little league games with great fondness. cap would cover baby seal’s eyes – no ears to hold cap up. bungee. yes, bungee. and baby seal became an all-star.

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  593. 597 flbravesgirl March 13, 2008 at 11:36 pm

    Chris, I can tell you from a daughter’s perspective that Daddy is always Prince Charming #1 & the example that all other potential Prince Charmings are compared to. 🙂

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  594. 598 chrisklob March 13, 2008 at 11:36 pm

    WW, you’re right about Nomar even though it was obviously the right thing to do for the Red Sox as they won the WS that year. You know what is always pointed out across the way is the team result when so-and-so is playing. They never won with Nomar. They traded him and won that year. Hmmmm….

    FBG, that was definitely a disappointing, and IMO, a very dirty play. I surely hope that a suspension is in short order for him and Girardi too.

    The lick that Elliott Johnson (who is not a very big guy, btw) laid on that catcher was a good play. The catcher was blocking the plate and any time you do that, you have to expect to get hit. The Duncan play was not a good one. He very clearly came in with his foot aimed at Iwamura’s knee.

    People get hurt in sports all the time. It’s one of the lessons I’m trying to teach my son. The difference is the intent. Johnson had no intent to hurt the Yanks catcher but Duncan surely did.

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  595. 599 chrisklob March 13, 2008 at 11:38 pm

    journalist jimmy smith, those must have been proud moments. I’ll bet you didn’t have to do many sliding drills with Chop Seal, did you?

    FBG, I hope so. But those are such high expectations to live up to!

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  596. 600 williamwallace March 13, 2008 at 11:38 pm

    Oh, yeah, Klobber, Gil, I can’t even imagine what it must feel like to have a kid of your own out there doing his/her thing. But watching my little niece the other day was amazing. I just can’t stop smiling thinking about it. One thing that bothered me though was that they were keeping score of the game. Very troublesome. They were only freaking 4 and 5 years old. They should never keep score at that age. One really funny moment was when she kicked a goal, then ran into the net, grabbed the ball and started trying to score another goal. Little nut.

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  597. 601 Gil in Mechanicsville March 13, 2008 at 11:39 pm

    Good luck WW on your new career path. Just remember the two things that corrupted individuals covet the most are money and power. Anything you can do that will cause them harm in those areas will make the greatest impression upon them.

    Yes Chris, being true to yourself can be quite liberating.

    And you folks wonder why I was so pro union…. Self preservation and trying my best to keep the playing field level. All most folks ask is to be treated with dignity and respect. Something many persons of importance have a difficult time being sincere with.

    Welcome back Salty…. FBG… glad you are feeling better..

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  598. 602 chrisklob March 13, 2008 at 11:46 pm

    WW, from experiences with my kids, they couldn’t care less about the score of the game. Everyone gets a trophy at season’s end anyway. Of course, that’s not cool in my book, but that’s another story. I do find it odd that they were keeping score though. None of my kids’ games were scored at that age.

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  599. 603 Gil in Mechanicsville March 13, 2008 at 11:48 pm

    Okay folks, time to put this old hoss to bed, catch ya’ll in the morning.

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  600. 604 chrisklob March 13, 2008 at 11:50 pm

    Goodnight Silver!

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  601. 605 williamwallace March 13, 2008 at 11:51 pm

    Thanks for the well wishes guys. Sorry I unloaded like that. I really wish I could get into the details.

    Klobber, like you, I once loved the job because I was surrounded by some really likable and highly competent go getters but then they moved on because they had more courage to walk away from the b.s. money lets you tolerate

    Then I was completely surrounded by idiots who caused some pretty horrible things to happen and that I knew and told them were gonna happen

    But that’s enough about that.

    Pour me a drink Klobber before I kill everyone’s mood.

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  602. 606 flbravesgirl March 13, 2008 at 11:51 pm

    Thanks, Gil.

    Now I guess it’s my turn to ask for prayer/good vibes/ positive thoughts. My cousin is an accomplished rider & has done barrel racing & drill team trick-riding for many years. She was doing a figure-8 drill with her team when another rider collided with her, throwing her to the ground. She was trampled, breaking her arm & leg & giving her a concussion. Most of her teeth were broken off at the gum. She had surgery tonight, putting many plates & pins in her leg. She will be months in recovery.

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  603. 607 BeRiGaN 3 tHe SeArCh FoR rOcK March 13, 2008 at 11:52 pm

    WW, you will be a lot happier someday very soon! And you know….you don’t have to be unhappy to blog here or that other blog! 🙂

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  604. 608 Bay Area Steve March 13, 2008 at 11:52 pm

    isurewishbraveheartcouldgetintothedetails.com

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  605. 609 chrisklob March 13, 2008 at 11:55 pm

    BAS, so do I but understand why he can’t. Best of luck to you Willy Wally.

    FBG, my thoughts and prayers will certainly be there for your cousin. What an awful story. I wish her and your family the best.

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  606. 610 BeRiGaN 3 tHe SeArCh FoR rOcK March 13, 2008 at 11:55 pm

    Flb, that’s terrible! I hope her recovery is faster than anyone can imagine…..

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  607. 611 BeRiGaN 3 tHe SeArCh FoR rOcK March 13, 2008 at 11:58 pm

    Perhaps working for Ron Paul has its pitfalls????
    Hopingwwhassomesenseofhumorleft.com

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  608. 612 flbravesgirl March 13, 2008 at 11:59 pm

    Thanks, guys. Berigan, she’s a physical therapy asst. so I know her co-workers will take the best care of her when she gets to that point.

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  609. 613 BeRiGaN 3 tHe SeArCh FoR rOcK March 13, 2008 at 11:59 pm

    BAS, you don’t have DSL, or cable??? How long does it take for this page to load????

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  610. 614 williamwallace March 14, 2008 at 12:01 am

    Klobber, you’re right about the scores of games. I can’t remember the score of any game I ever played in as a kid, what my ERA was or my batting average.

    And I did enjoy your blog about Frenchy. My mother actually used to work at the same school his mother teaches in. From what my mom says, Frenchy is just like his mother. Very good folks. That dude was unbelievable in high school football. It seems so weird that 7 years ago I was watching him intercept balls and catch touchdown passes in high school games like he was a player in an XBOX game and here he is now entering his 4th season in the majors.

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  611. 615 Bay Area Steve March 14, 2008 at 12:04 am

    Ouch Miss Velvet…my face hurts just reading that. I, too, hope her recovery is faster than anyone can imagine.

    Five seconds or so, Rock. Just hard for me to spend the $15 when I have this for free. (Read this as cheap) How’s the crack search going?

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  612. 616 williamwallace March 14, 2008 at 12:05 am

    BAS, you are a funny dude. You too Berigan.

    BAS, I know I don’t have to be miserable to blog but ya gotta admit you have to be pretty miserable to blog as much as I do. 🙂

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  613. 617 chrisklob March 14, 2008 at 12:07 am

    BAS, you’ve got free internet?

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  614. 618 BeRiGaN 3 tHe SeArCh FoR rOcK March 14, 2008 at 12:08 am

    I see the cards signed Kyle Lohse….another Boras guy that didn’t get a big contract. Good move for the Cards though. Even Pete the other night sounded like he didn’t expect much from them this year. They do look like a pretty weak team, don’t they??? They seem to be as cheap as the Braves were, 3-4 years ago…
    Should be just an all around interesting year in baseball. Cubs and Reds vying for the Central. Any team but the giants in the west….Braves as underdogs, and probably with the most talent (Overall) in the east. Phils offense will be a monster this year, won’t they???

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  615. 619 Bob, journalist March 14, 2008 at 12:10 am

    Bob, before you make any more snide comments about professors at UGA, check the number of Rhodes Scholars and leaders of industry in GA that graduated from Athens as compared to those who chose to do differential and intregal calculus at North Avenue PU” … I didn’t anticipate such a childish, defensive reaction but for those who may think the closing of my rendition of George Griffin’s story was intended to seriously reflect negatively upon the University of Georgia, its students or its professors … I sincerely apologize if the tone of my remarks so suggested. I would never intentionally so do as I hold both the university and it’s faculty in high esteem … however, what matters is not where you go to school but rather what you take from it and what you do with that, whatever it t be.

    While I had no idea that anyone would take such umbrage or so consider my comments … upon reflection, I can assure you that any comments I might make in the future about professors at UGA will be predicated upon the the number of Rhodes Scholars and leaders of industry in GA who were graduated from that university relative to the comparable number associated with the North Avenue Trade School.

    I promise also take it into due consideration when evaluating the cost of Chinese Tea.

    I’m duly impressed that Paladin knows both differential and intregal calculus … and anyone else who truly so does. Like his earlier “mixed methaphor,” I’ve never heard of “intregal calculus” … I myself was once rather well acquainted with the calculus but about the best I can do today is to differentiate and/or integrate the base of natural logarithms, raised to some simple function of the differential … if you don’t use it, you do indeed lose it … thank goodness for Mathcad!

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  616. 620 chrisklob March 14, 2008 at 12:11 am

    WW, they definitely keep score in the games when the kids get older, just not for 4 and 5 year olds.

    I remember one game my son played in when his team got absolutely blown out. He asked me what the score was and I told him it was something like 10-2, he said, “Cool, can we go get a snow cone now?”

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  617. 621 BeRiGaN 3 tHe SeArCh FoR rOcK March 14, 2008 at 12:12 am

    someoneispiggybackingonsomeoneelsesinternetconnectionnotthatthereisanythingwrongwiththat.com

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  618. 622 chrisklob March 14, 2008 at 12:12 am

    And whither our Blog Mistress Extraordinaire? Haven’t seen much of Madam CL lately? Too busy for your internet buddies?

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  619. 623 Bay Area Steve March 14, 2008 at 12:13 am

    Yeah, CK. The broadband at work comes with free dial-up access.

    So, WW, it’s probably selfish of me to hope you stay where you are so that you can continue frequent posting. Is it ok to hope that your new locale allows for plenty of personal time?

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  620. 624 williamwallace March 14, 2008 at 12:13 am

    Yeah, the Red Sox were clearly better off for getting rid of Nomar but, man, it still broke my heart. I hate the way Boston turns on their favorite sons. I hope Tex ends up in Boston next year. He’ll get what he deserves if he ends up there.

    A pretty strange thing over the last 20 years is Dale Murphy left the Braves, and the Braves went to the World Series the next year. The Yankees got rid of Don Mattingly and won the World Series the next year. Nomar left the Red Sox and they won the World Series 3 months later.

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  621. 625 chrisklob March 14, 2008 at 12:14 am

    Berigan, don’t count the Brewers out of the NL Central race this year.

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  622. 626 flbravesgirl March 14, 2008 at 12:14 am

    I think she’s still deep in her research project.

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  623. 627 chrisklob March 14, 2008 at 12:16 am

    Bob, hope you’re feeling better. I may need to lean on you for math tutoring lessons in the future as my kids get older. Some of the crap my seventh grade daughter brings home is making me scratch my head.

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  624. 628 Bay Area Steve March 14, 2008 at 12:16 am

    not that there’s anything wrong with that

    I haven’t stopped laughing at that line in fifteen years.

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  625. 629 flbravesgirl March 14, 2008 at 12:18 am

    An online friend of my sister’s found that she picks up the wi-fi from the library next door to her apartment… ’til closing time every day.

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  626. 630 chrisklob March 14, 2008 at 12:19 am

    WW, I understand how you feel about Nomar and Boston in general.

    I think it was Colin Cowherd of ESPN radio that said something along the lines of this about the difference between Boston and New York and their affection for their baseball athletes: In New York, everyone hates you for the first year until you prove yourself. After that, you’re a Yankee for life. In Boston, everyone loves you the first year, then they can’t wait until you leave so they can boo you.

    Unless you’re A-Rod of course. Then you get boo’ed in both cities.

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  627. 631 BeRiGaN 3 tHe SeArCh FoR rOcK March 14, 2008 at 12:29 am

    Getting awfully tired…..goodnight everyone!

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  628. 632 flbravesgirl March 14, 2008 at 12:29 am

    Sleep well, Berigan!

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  629. 633 chrisklob March 14, 2008 at 12:36 am

    Good night BerryGain! Hope you catch some good ZZZ’s.

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  630. 634 williamwallace March 14, 2008 at 12:42 am

    Klobber, being a Yankees fan myself, I actually have a theory as to how a player becomes a True Yankee (something Arod will never be) and it goes something like this:

    (1) Once a homegrown, always a homegrown, and always a True Yankee. The bloodlines matter significantly in who is labeled a true Yankee. (i.e. Jeter, Posada, Pettitte, Rivera, Bernie, Joba, Hughes, Kennedy, Wang); or

    (2) Paul Oneill/Tino Martinez Exception: You were purchased through a shrewd but questionable free agency signing or trade and ended up being successful for the Yankees despite many initial reservations about you. (i.e., Paul Oneill, Tino Martinez). To qualify in this category, you can not be an established superstar for another team at the time of the trade of free agency signing; or

    (3) Tim Raines exception: You are a fading superstar who is kind of washed up but sign with the Yankees to be a valuable part time player on a team with a chance to get you a ring; or

    (4) The Reggie Jackson exception: You are a superstar who signs with the Yankees and are brutalized for a year or two or three by the fans and the media and end up becoming a half of a true Yankee in the eyes of the fans because you persevere and perhaps have a big moment or two in the postseason. This is like a gang initiation that extends for years. You gotta earn those pinstripes. You have to be jumped into the gang if your blood is not pure before you can ever apply to become a True Yankee. Even then, it’s probably never going to be good enough; or

    (5) David Cone exception: You were an important member during a 3, 4, 5 year run of a Yankee dynasty. This is the Ringbearer Exception.

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  631. 635 chrisklob March 14, 2008 at 12:56 am

    WW, under your definition, where will guys like Mussina, Clemens, Matsui, Damon, Pavano (who left and returned), Soriano, Wells, Brosius, O’Neill, Canseco (just kidding!), Leyritz, Orlando Hernandez, Knoblauch, Girardi, and Jeff Nelson fall.

    Not trying to pick a fight, or pick apart your argument either. Just trying to get some insight from a Yanks fan.

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  632. 636 flbravesgirl March 14, 2008 at 12:57 am

    I don’t think A-Rod would ever be “accepted” anywhere. Too much resentment of him (and he doesn’t help his cause with the way he comes across).

    WW, I have to say that while I despise the Yankees, they’ve had some players that I like & respect over the past several years. I have heard very good things about Jeter off the field & of course Tino is loved down here, being the local boy (he was a schoolmate of my cousins).

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  633. 637 flbravesgirl March 14, 2008 at 12:59 am

    Time to shut down for the night. You boys be good. ‘Night, y’all!

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  634. 639 chrisklob March 14, 2008 at 1:18 am

    Lew, what, what?

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  635. 640 Bay Area Steve March 14, 2008 at 1:23 am

    what, what, what?

    Trolls waking you up through the interweb tubes?

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  636. 641 williamwallace March 14, 2008 at 1:24 am

    Mussina – never gonna be a Yankee. He is an Oriole.

    Pavano – gimme a break, not a chance in hell

    Matsui – True Yankee – first and only team he has played for

    Soriano – True Yankee – homegrown. One of the reasons I have become more of a Braves fan than a Yankees fan. I would rather have Alfonso Soriano, Nick Johnson, Mike Lowell playing for the Yankees than Arod and Giambi. Can’t root for other team’s stars on my team and have all of these crazy rules in my head about which Yankees can be rooted for and which ones can’t

    Wells – became a True Yankee because he was a vagabond who was good but not really great elsewhere and he had some huge moments as a Yankee (not counting the 2003 World Series where he was too fat to pitch)

    Leyritz – Truest of the True Yankees – a homegrown that came up through the system, was an important piece during their rise from 1992 until 1995 and then hit two of the biggest home runs in Yankees history in 1995 against the Mariners in Game 1 of the divisional series and then off Wohlers in 1996.

    Girardi – True Yankee because he was just a scrubby decent catcher when he came to the Yankees and he had big moments on 3 World series winning teams.

    Brosius – see Girardi

    Duque – True Yankee – first team he played for, big member of championship teams

    Knoblauch – A Twin, never a Yankee. Too established as a superstar second baseman. But he was an important member of team that got rings and he kind of made himself a loved underdog with his struggles so he has some True Yankee status

    Jeff Nelson, Paul Oneill, Tino Martinez – Without a doubt, True Yankees. This is why:

    Paul Oneill was traded for Roberto Kelly, the only All Star the Yankees had at the time. A very questionable trade. It made me and many other fans very angry at the time of the trade. Roberto was my favorite Yankee. Oneill was a struggling player over there with Lou Pinella and the Reds. He was 30 years old and had not yet established himself as a true star. We traded our only star for a disappointing hitter. That trade however became one of the best trades in Yankees history. Oneill, once he stopped butting heads with Lou over in Cincy, became one of the most consistent hitters and beloved stars in Yankees history. 8 years later, that ninth inning in Game 5 of the 2001 World Series made even a tough dude like Paulie O shed a tear. That never would have happened if Oneill was a huge superstar before he became a Yankee. As much as Yankee fans crave and demand superstars, they all also seem to have a guilty conscience about stealing superstars, so they create unwritten rules in their heads about who is a true Yankee and who is not. We do this in a weak attempt to ease our conscience.

    Tino Martinez was somewhat of an up and coming star with the Mariners when the Yankees traded for him. The price in prospect talent was steep to get Tino. Sterling Hitchcock and Russ Davis went to Seattle. Sounds like a no brainer now. But that was not the case in 1995. Sterling was a top pitching prospect and had won a big game to get the Yankees the wild card in 1995. Russ Davis was a highly coveted third base prospect who would go on to become a decent major leaguer. But it was not like Tino was a bona fide superstar when he was traded for. It was kind of questionable whether or not Tino was going to be the really good major leaguer he became.

    If you think about a recent trade that was similar, you have to think of Adam Laroche. An up and coming, slowly developing star that had a coming out season in 2006 but then found himself traded by the Braves to the Pirates for Mike Gonzalez and Brent Lillibridge. As much as Braves fans loved what Adam had become in 2006, they were not truly buying in that he was going to be a big time first baseman the rest of his career. Tino’s career in 1995 was at the same stage Adam Laroche’s was in 2006. The Yankees did not feel like they were stealing a superstar in Tino because the typical Yankee fan had many reservations about his worth and potential. Plus, he was replacing the legend Mattingly. This is where a category two player also became a true Yankee through category four and then later a category five Ringbearer player. While suffering a horrible April in 1996, the Yankees fans rode Tino hard. He roared back without uttering a word. Never once did he complain. Just kept his head down, chin up, worked hard, and played his heart out. Through many great moments over the years, Tino became a true Yankee.

    The forgotten part of that trade is Jeff Nelson, who was almost as important as anyone in the great run of the Yankees in the 1990s. He was just a reliever, although a very good one who had showed a lot of promise against the Yankees in the 1995 Divisional Series. Being a reliever, it was hard to feel like you were stealing him because relievers are so unpredictable from year to year and you can never tell who is so legit that you should feel guilty about “stealing” them.

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  637. 642 chrisklob March 14, 2008 at 1:31 am

    WW, thanks for the feedback. I’ll read it again tomorrow when I’m not so tired (and more sober!) and make some comments.

    Just for the record, I threw Pavano in there just to make sure you were reading the fine print! And, of course, in true lawer-like form, you caught it!

    I’m not a Yankees fan, but as a baseball fan I understand what the franchise and its history mean to the game. Just trying to get a little insight into the mind of what I consider to be a very smart fan with a lot of insight into the game.

    Good night all.

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  638. 643 williamwallace March 14, 2008 at 1:38 am

    Alright, good night, Klobber.

    And Lew what are you saying what about?

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  639. 644 Bob, journalist March 14, 2008 at 2:03 am

    Let’s beet the horse … all this because I didn’t understand one of Paladin’s comments to Berigan … Like going back into Kroger’s just to use the Men’s restroom and spending an additional $50, I really wanted just to wish VOR a Happy birthday and offer condolences relative to Jimmy’s loss of two friends.

    Get in a HOT tub and CHILL. Get it? No, I didn’t think so” … While it’s childish, it sounds good and the English lesson was entertaining … but what Paladin actually said in his 7:56 that prompted my “mixed metaphor” comment was … “Have your movie and supper, get in the tub, and chill. That is a mixed methaphor, but you are as well

    My immediate and honest first reaction was that his “methaphor” was probably some word with which I was unfamiliar, especially since he went to the trouble to explain that he had used a “mixed methaphor” … and his “but you are as well” seemed to be unnecessarily boorish and offensive … but, Carol thought he just might not know how to spell metaphor … and found his behavior consistent.

    While thought that unlikely, I conceded and proceeded with “mixed metaphor” as his likely intent … I wasn’t intending to be argumentative or cause strife … to me it takes multiple metaphoric elements to create a mixed metaphor … I only saw one and that prompted my comment.

    Good Night and God Bless!

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  640. 645 Bob, journalist March 14, 2008 at 2:13 am

    I may need to lean on you for math tutoring lessons in the future as my kids get older … your wish will be my command Chris … if I could but offer that which I’ve forgotten, it would most likely hold you in good stead … but I’m afraid what I remember wouldn’t help too much!

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  641. 646 morpheus45 March 14, 2008 at 3:34 am

    YYYYYYYEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAHHHHHHH!!!!!!!! THIS BLOG IS MINE.

    BAS, if you gonna come wit it you betta come hard…

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  642. 647 journalist jimmy smith March 14, 2008 at 8:35 am

    5 hours of blog domination for the grinch – but now jimmy smith is back. and joe girardi is a tired story. yankees hired joe girardia and now the yankees have a filmy, smarmy, joe girardi cast about the yankees. punk is punk whether manager or player. jimmy smith recalls a time when robert fick made an unprofessional play on behalf of the atlanta braves. no excuses were made for robert fick by bobby cox. robert fick was dismissed. duncan’s play was blatant and girardi voices no opinion of its merit or demerit. looser. and so, too, the yankees organization. once proud. now common. girardi for torre says it all.

    and paladin and bob are sparring again. metaphors and calculus. only on the braves and stuff blog.

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  643. 648 paladin2008 March 14, 2008 at 8:50 am

    I’ll take the same notice of Bob’s nighttime brain flatulence that everyone else did. Good Morning to everyone else. And I hope that ww will make good on his promise to return today. Always get a kick out of, and a baseball education from, him.

    And if Bob is going to concern himself with all minor typos as they apply to everyone, including himself, he will be busy.

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  644. 649 Voice of Raisins March 14, 2008 at 8:56 am

    (sound of deep yawning…) G’morning, everyone. What’d I miss? Just kidding. Actually, I have just spent the last half-hour catching up on the last nights and overnights. jjs: paladin and Bob are indeed at it again. At least they are keeping their spikes down. ww: Very good to have you back, brave warrior. Your insights have been missed. Grinch: You scared everybody off overnight. You dominated with little effort.

    Oh, and fbg, I will most certainly say a prayer for your cousin. I hope she feels better soon.

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  645. 650 Gil in Mechanicsville March 14, 2008 at 8:57 am

    Good morning all, interesting overnights…

    Thanks Braveheart for the insight to the Yankee fans’ concept of those deserving true Yankee status. Again, good luck in your new endeavor.

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  646. 651 Voice of Raisins March 14, 2008 at 8:58 am

    Where is my coffee?!? 😯

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  647. 652 Gil in Mechanicsville March 14, 2008 at 8:58 am

    Yo, 008… Let’s just let it ride dude……

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  648. 653 Gil in Mechanicsville March 14, 2008 at 9:02 am

    Looks like Dukes is going to get his chance with the Nationals this spring. Willie Mo managed to strain and oblique yesterday… Damn… And he is not even a pitcher….

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  649. 654 Voice of Raisins March 14, 2008 at 9:04 am

    Gil: Allow me to mix in a metaphor. I try to live a ScotchGuard life. Anything that may hit certainly won’t stick. It’s not worth the stain left behind. Less stress, less strain, nobody’s mad, everybody’s happy. Kumbaya, my Lord… Kumbaya!

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  650. 655 Gil in Mechanicsville March 14, 2008 at 9:05 am

    I guess this will move Langerhans up to the fourth outfielder spot.

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  651. 656 Gil in Mechanicsville March 14, 2008 at 9:07 am

    Good advice Raisins.

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  652. 657 paladin2008 March 14, 2008 at 9:17 am

    Raisins and Gil;; I respect and like both of you and enjoy our “good natured” joshing. I’ll try to follow y’all’s advice and a Good Morning to you both. FBG; that is a horrible story of your relative’s accident. I hope that recovery will be her constant companion.

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  653. 658 Salty March 14, 2008 at 9:21 am

    Both of you need to knock it off! If you need each other’s e-mail, I’ll give it to you! 😡
    Pure, complete, and utter nonsense! Matthau/Lemmon, Part 2!?

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  654. 659 paladin2008 March 14, 2008 at 9:25 am

    Add NaCL(y) to the above response.

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  655. 660 paladin2008 March 14, 2008 at 9:27 am

    Anyone else want a piece of my assets? If so, hurry while I am in a receptive mood. 🙄

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  656. 661 Voice of Raisins March 14, 2008 at 9:28 am

    Salty, if you want to see two elder statesmen really play off each other,

    Check this out.

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  657. 662 paladin2008 March 14, 2008 at 9:36 am

    Raisins; I liked your “elder statesmen” bit. But, it brings to mind something if you will allow me to be semi-serious. Anyone can WRITE a come-back or response; being able to do it face-to-face, literally, separates the men from the boys.

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  658. 663 Savannah Guy March 14, 2008 at 9:54 am

    Good morning all. Jimmy Smith, losing two friends is very sad. Sincere condolences and prayers for their families and for you. Yes, life is precious and can be fragile… but can also be incredibly powerful and resilient. Agreed also in trying for no regrets. Mostly two things: have faith and have no fear of living life to the fullest.

    FBG: Sorry to hear about your cousin. Prayers for a quick recovery… also giving thanks that the injuries were not worse or life threatening. Hopefully she’ll get back in that saddle soon and ride better than ever.

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  659. 664 williamwallace March 14, 2008 at 9:56 am

    Paladin, let it go man.

    Raisins, thanks man.

    Gil, I should qualify what I was saying about the True Yankee thing to say this: That is how a True Yankees fan would define a True Yankee. Unfortunately, there are too many bandwagon jumpers wearing their pink Jeter tees and red backwards Yankees hats who create the perception of Yankees fans being a crass bunch who have no principles and only want to win at all costs, including their souls. New York is a terrible bandwagon town. The same morons who demand a trade for Johan Santana are the same Yankees fans who did not show up until 1995. Back in 86, they wore Mets caps. In 88, the had Canseco jerseys. In 1991, they wore Braves caps. But, then in 1995, they woke up and wanted to pretend they were Yankees fans. They don’t have the painful memories of Fred McGriff, Doug Drabek, Willie McGee, and Jay Buhner starring elsewhere.

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  660. 666 paladin2008 March 14, 2008 at 10:02 am

    ww; Yes Sir! And, again, welcome back to the flock. I realize that you will be busy, but so am I. As you remember, 1st year of LS is…busy. Anyway, stay with us. You have so much to offer. That’s the last good things I’m going to say about you. From here on out, watch your six. 😈

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  661. 667 Savannah Guy March 14, 2008 at 10:04 am

    Belated Happy Birthday Raisins!

    Sorry about your trip to the DMV. Tags are one of the few things our government does that makes any sense, even if they do run the department like they run everything else they (mis)manage: with incompetence and without customer service.

    Just don’t get so mad that it’ll make you do something you’ll regret,like this…

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  662. 668 williamwallace March 14, 2008 at 10:07 am

    Oh, and FBG, sorry I was so self absorbed last night and neglected to send my thoughts and well wishes to you. You are a truly sweet woman and only the best should happen to you and those you know.

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  663. 669 Voice of Raisins March 14, 2008 at 10:11 am

    SG: Dang! I’ve been found! So much for witness protection… 😀

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  664. 670 Voice of Raisins March 14, 2008 at 10:13 am

    … and I don’t mind purchasing the tags. I hate having to give the gov’t money for MY birthday. There’s just something wrong about that.

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  665. 671 paladin2008 March 14, 2008 at 10:16 am

    That ad volorem tax is one of the main reasons that I live in TN. They don’t have it here. No one can spell it.

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  666. 672 paladin2008 March 14, 2008 at 10:21 am

    The Bravos play the Phoolies at 1:05. Anyone have any weather forecasts, starting pitchers or etc?

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  667. 673 paladin2008 March 14, 2008 at 10:28 am

    Where did all you holier-than-thou(ers) go? You don’t want to talk baseball?

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  668. 674 Carolina Lady March 14, 2008 at 10:31 am

    Goooood morning to one and all!

    FBG, I’m so terribly sorry to hear of your cousin’s horrible accident. That young lady will be in this lady’s prayers! I truly hope her pain is being relieved! 😦 The good news is that you’re recovering! 🙂

    ww, GREAT to see you back! BRAVO on your decision and sincere best wishes for your future! Politics makes the Mafia look good in comparison, IMHO. You are really missed here!

    OK: Bob. Paladin. Neither of you is allowed to address, comment on, or otherwise acknowledge the other. New blog rule. Thank you. 🙂

    Where have I been: to 2 different doctors; meeting with some of the Elders; working diligently on a big research project; for days up around the clock with Mother – literally; went to bed at 9:10 last night, didn’t get up until 8:20 this morning. 🙂 ; processing her insurance claims for 3 months that have finally been paid – through Dec; getting tax info together; cooking several meals a day, washing, cleaning, shopping, taking care of the animals; keeping check on the property (sometimes people think they can camp out or otherwise trespass); keeping the blog cleaned up from jjs – or trying; keeping the leads ready to go and remembering birthdays.

    Other than that, I’ve just been sitting back, twiddling my thumbs! 😆

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  669. 675 Voice of Raisins March 14, 2008 at 10:33 am

    Still here. Just workin’, paladin, just workin’. I’m in a business that has suffered from the great mortgage flush. I have been blessed with a ton of work this week. Muddling through, but still hangin’ out in the B&S-hood.

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  670. 676 Carolina Lady March 14, 2008 at 10:34 am

    Paladin, I think Hudson is starting today. Don’t know about the lineup. How you doing? 🙂

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  671. 677 paladin2008 March 14, 2008 at 10:36 am

    Yes, Ma’am. 😳 Now, I’m going and do some of my work. I have an essay on Civil Procedure coming due. Later.

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  672. 679 Savannah Guy March 14, 2008 at 10:49 am

    Braveheart, I read your career post with great interest.

    Why am I not surprised that you are an attorney? You are bright and you scrap like a criminal trial lawyer and twist facts like a contortionist to make your case. It fits. I would have been much harder on you had I known that you worked for “The Firm” (kidding cuz… sort’a… winky smiley face here). Now, if you leave, please… watch your back. Nobody has ever left the firm… nobody.

    Kidding aside and in all seriousness and sincerity, congratulations to you for arriving at what sounds like your fork in the road… and choosing the noble, high road that will add meaning and a goal of using your talent in whatever areas you believe right and just, especially in those areas that you have great passion for. I’ll root for you. I’m also betting that you’ll be great at whatever it is. If you leave regular blogging for a bit, please keep us posted on the journey.

    Since you’ve redirected your mission and seem to be past needing advice on direction at your crossroad, I’ll reinforce your commitment with a favorite quote:

    “The time is always right to do what is right.”
    –Martin Luther King Jr.

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  673. 680 Savannah Guy March 14, 2008 at 10:51 am

    CL, WordPress has just eaten two of my posts. The first time it happened, I went back and edited and improved it a bit… but that one bit the dust also.

    Gotta run, but I hate to leave with an air ball.

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  674. 681 journalist jimmy smith March 14, 2008 at 10:52 am

    oh, the humanity! jimmy smith has been found out by carolina lady! journalist will be nice all day today. and misbehavior on this blog could be the result of too little roughage in the diet. or perhaps too much roughage, not sure. either way, carolina lady can deal with the matter much like carolina lady deals with the occasional jimmy smith post that is snot in good taste. and cannot get one by carolina lady these days even while carolina lady is researching.

    and fgb, jimmy smith is sorry to learn of fbg’s cousin’s injury. a speedy recovery is wished for.

    and lew has now blogged “what” and “who”. must be the chipper jones influence on lew. next post will be “uh”. 😆 maybe whither – covers everything.

    and chop seal should brake some news today at spring training. stay tuned for chop seal’s report.

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  675. 682 Savannah Guy March 14, 2008 at 10:53 am

    Lew… where?

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  676. 683 Gil in Mechanicsville March 14, 2008 at 10:57 am

    WW… My dad and my brother were both Yankee fans so I was forced to choose another team to root for. I know, stupid rule but my brother and I never could root for the same team. That was in addition to my youthful inexperience and not understanding that the purpose of a minor league team was to prepare players for the majors, not to bring glory to the minor league city. I was very frustrated by the fact that many good players would be called up just when they were helping the Richmond team.

    It looks to be a beautiful day here in the Old Dominion so I am going to try and do a little bit of yard work. I have a dead pine tree that is hung up and I need to get it down before it decides to let go when someone is standing under it. Virginia law does not hold one responsible if a live tree falls and causes damage but for the same to happen with a dead tree then the owner is liable as it is considered negligence on that owner’s part.

    later folks…

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  677. 684 Carolina Lady March 14, 2008 at 10:58 am

    Savannah, filter has been cleared and your post now appears! 10:49 🙂

    jjs is always found out! 😆

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  678. 685 Carolina Lady March 14, 2008 at 11:00 am

    Gil, just be sure it doesn’t fall on YOU!

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  679. 686 williamwallace March 14, 2008 at 11:01 am

    When?

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  680. 687 journalist jimmy smith March 14, 2008 at 11:02 am

    a little something different:

    http://www.nwanews.com/adg/Sports/219673/

    some beet writers would not uncover this . . . some would not share this.

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  681. 688 lew614 March 14, 2008 at 11:03 am

    SG-Damned if I know. I have a rhinovirus and it hurts to talk. BTW-I like Modest Mouse better than the other one. Both, however, would be contingent upon me being in a more Progressive rather than Hard Rock mode.

    Ma’am-Be on the lookout for a package today. Let me know when it arrives-I forgot to do Delivery Confirmation.

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  682. 689 Carolina Lady March 14, 2008 at 11:03 am

    OK – we’re at nearly 700 posts now, so guess who has

    A NEW BLOG UP!!!
    🙂

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  683. 690 journalist jimmy smith March 14, 2008 at 11:18 am

    bobby cox was not joshing. oh, the humanity! that was bad. jimmy smith is trying to blog about bobby cox and not use the now-banned word synonymous with bobby cox on the braves and stuff blog. it is requiring considerable effort on the part of jimmy smith. journalist can be clinical when clinical is called for. “dried nasal mucus” can be substituted, when necessary, for the offending word. see, jimmy smith can cooperate.

    and a bitter bobby cox? bitter? never known bobby cox to be described as bitter. and if girardi was postured to become manager because girardi was a bench coach, does that mean that chino cadahia is postured to become a manager hear? old 3b coaches seem to do best off this staff. not bench coaches. and 2 games out of the playoffs. all blamed on players. would pat corrales and bobby dews have made a difference for last year’s team? fredi?

    and leadership . . . jimmy smith is gathering jimmy smith’s thoughts on leadership. do not mirror those of terence moore. go figure.

    and game ranch. chipper should open a game ranch down by the stadium. money making idea from jimmy smith.

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