40: Greg Maddux: Best Postseason Starter Ever In His Prime?

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by williamwallace

ATHENS, GA – John Smoltz is rightfully regarded as one of the greatest postseason pitchers in the history of the game. Tom Glavine and Greg Maddux, on the other hand, are generally considered postseason disappointments. Overall, for their careers, Smoltz has been superior to Glavine and Maddux in the postseason. Below are their career postseason records:

W

L

ERA

IP

Glavine

14

16

3.42

218

Smoltz

15

4

2.65

207

Maddux

11

14

3.34

194

Maddux and Glavine, however, were actually better postseason starters than Smoltz during the six postseasons in which they were members of the same starting rotation. The applicable period is from 1993 until 1999. Below is a grid with their performance and the average run support they received during those postseasons:

W

L

SV

ERA

WHIP

GS

IP

RS

Glavine

8

5

0

2.48

1.16

18

119.7

4.67

Smoltz

7

4

1

3.12

1.14

17

118.3

4.82

Maddux

10

9

1

2.39

1.11

21

150.7

3.86

Combined

25

18

2

2.64

1.13

56

388.7

4.41

Overall, the Braves were 32-24 when Maddux, Smoltz, and Glavine started for the Braves during the postseasons from 1993 until 1999. Below is the overall team record when each started:

W

L

ERA

RS

Glavine

12

6

2.48

4.67

Smoltz

9

8

3.12

4.82

Maddux

11

10

2.39

3.86

Overall

32

24

2.64

4.41

Below is a table of the performance of Maddux, Smoltz, and Glavine and the run support given to them in the games the Braves won when they started during those postseasons between 1993 and 1999:

G

IP

ERA

RS

Glavine

12

82.7

1.63

5.92

Smoltz

9

68.6

2.63

7.00

Maddux

11

84.7

1.60

5.36

Overall

32

236

1.91

6.03

Below is their performance and the average performance of the offense during the games the Braves lost when they started during those postseasons:

G

IP

ERA

RS

Glavine

6

37.0

4.38

2.17

Smoltz

8

49.7

3.80

2.38

Maddux

10

66.0

3.41

2.20

Overall

24

152.7

3.77

2.25

Maddux was not only the best postseason pitcher on the Braves during the era of The Big Three but, from the 1995 NLCS until the 1999 World Series, Maddux put together the best consecutive string of 120 or more innings of any postseason pitcher in the history of the game. Below are the postseason pitchers I could find that had the best consecutive string of 120 or more innings in the postseason and the average offensive run support provided them in their postseason starts:

Pitcher

Start

End

G

GS

W

L

IP

ERA

OOPS

RS

Greg Maddux

95NLCS

99WS

19

17

8

8

124

1.89

0.562

2.88

John Smoltz

91NLCSG7

97NLDS

18

18

9

2

125.3

2.01

0.573

4.78

Whitey Ford

50WS

62WSG4

18

18

10

4

124

2.03

0.586

4.50

Tom Glavine

92WS

99NLCS

19

19

9

6

129.7

2.22

0.590

4.37

Curt Schilling

93WS

2007WS

19

19

11

2

133.3

2.23

0.586

4.95

Dave Stewart

81WS

93ALCS

18

16

10

3

120.3

2.24

0.569

4.63

Orel Hershiser

85NLCS

97WSG1

18

17

8

2

121

2.38

0.575

4.35

Jim Palmer

66WS

83WS

17

15

8

3

124.3

2.61

0.640

4.67

Roger Clemens

86ALCSG7

03ALCSG3

22

22

8

5

130

3.05

0.562

3.82

Catfish Hunter

72ALCS

78WS

21

18

9

5

124.3

3.11

0.687

3.50

David Wells

89ALCS

05ALDS

26

16

10

4

120

3.15

0.647

5.44

Mike Mussina

97ALDS

06ALDS

20

19

7

7

121.3

3.19

0.660

3.26

Andy Pettitte

98ALDS

03WS

22

22

11

5

136

3.44

0.736

4.45

Randy Johnson

95ALDS

06ALDS

19

16

7

9

121

3.50

0.664

3.50

Mariano Rivera is currently at 117.3 innings and will jump to the top of this list once he surpasses 120 innings pitched in the postseason. Bob Gibson, Sandy Koufax, Christy Mathewson and a few others had excellent runs that did not amount to 120 innings pitched prior to the dawn of ALCS, NLCS, ALDS and NLDS play. Greg Maddux, however, had the best string of 120 or more consecutive innings ever from a starting pitcher in the postseason.

~WilliamWallace~

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820 Responses to “40: Greg Maddux: Best Postseason Starter Ever In His Prime?”


  1. 1 Carolina Lady April 27, 2008 at 10:47 am

    ww, thanks for a great post! And double-thanks for getting it in so early!!!

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  2. 2 morpheus45 April 27, 2008 at 11:26 am

    Preaching to the converted, WW. I think Maddux was/is the best pitcher period in the last 25-30 years.

    ^%$#-ing Falcons! two, exactly two needs adressed appropriately out of the first 6 picks. %$#^.

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  3. 3 Paladin April 27, 2008 at 11:34 am

    ^%$#-ing Falcons! two, exactly two needs adressed appropriately out of the first 6 picks. %$#^.

    You too, are preaching to the converted, Grinchman. Damn and idiots! And remember Dimitroff saying this would be a “need” draft?

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  4. 4 Gil in Mechanicsville April 27, 2008 at 11:58 am

    Great lead Braveheart, insightful and definitive. In my humble opinion, Greg Maddux is/was the greatest pitcher of his era.

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  5. 5 Paladin April 27, 2008 at 12:00 pm

    And now they have picked someone(Decoud)that’s not even on anyone else’s board! Hello! Then, why not wait and get him as an undrafted free-agent? Jeez!!

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  6. 6 Gil in Mechanicsville April 27, 2008 at 12:02 pm

    And football…. What a joke it all is… Only one rung above wrestling and the WWF in my estimation. A sport that has been taken over by thugs and hoodlums that need keepers more than coaches.

    Yes, a few good men play the game but they are over shadowed by the con artist and the wannabes that think they are bigger than the game.

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  7. 7 Bob, journalist April 27, 2008 at 12:06 pm

    Interesting perspective, ww.

    I think Maddux was the best at his position for a long while … still pretty good.


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  8. 8 Paladin April 27, 2008 at 12:11 pm

    Yeah Gil, tell us about Bonds and some of the other outstanding role models that baseball gives us. No, as a matter of fact, give us a break!

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  9. 9 Bob, journalist April 27, 2008 at 12:22 pm

    Well, at least Nashville can be thankful that Dallas wants to take one of their role models off their hands … PacMan!

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  10. 10 Paladin April 27, 2008 at 12:27 pm

    I think Nashville would be glad to throw in the cost of his bus ticket, too.

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  11. 11 morpheus45 April 27, 2008 at 12:39 pm

    Not many thugs in the NBA, either…at least football players have to perform year in and year out to keep their jobs. They don’t spent 5 years of a 6 year guaranteed contract snorting coke of various body parts of high-priced groupies in the back of their Bentley then play hard the last year in order to get another guaranteed gold strike.

    Paladin, I’m thinkin’ this is a two year plan; he’s looking ahead at next year’s draft and getting everything BUT linemen in this one so that can be the sole focus next year. I admit to being shocked and dismayed at first that he didn’t go after the New England model, but then New England’s never had as many holes to fill. I’m still giving him the benefit of the doubt.

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  12. 12 morpheus45 April 27, 2008 at 12:42 pm

    The guys he’s picking aren’t flashy, but if you look at their analysis every one of them is “hard-nosed and agressive.” That fits with the program.

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  13. 13 Bob, journalist April 27, 2008 at 12:43 pm

    I personally think the NFL should have a rule that bans all players who are arrested more than 10 times in a season … or at least prohibits them from playing for one series of downs in a game where their team is leading by more than two touchdowns.

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  14. 14 Paladin April 27, 2008 at 12:59 pm

    And if we are boring you with our football talk, why not talk some baseball? Or something besides picking at football.

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  15. 15 Paladin April 27, 2008 at 1:04 pm

    And before I go in for lunch, etc. Grinch if your theory is correct, and I don’t question it, doesn’t that make the trade up for Baker even more puzzling?

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  16. 16 Savannah Guy April 27, 2008 at 1:10 pm

    Good post William Wallace. That’s quite a collection of stats and all-time pitching greats you’ve gathered to make a case for Maddux being the best post-season starter ever. Honestly, I wouldn’t have thought that. Candidly, I’m still not sure I do, even after looking at your numbers and tables.

    It’s not that I don’t believe your stats or perspective… you’re very good at those. It has nothing to do with your accuracy or presentation but everything to do with my own inability to overlay all of the hard stats, process them, mix them and understand them to arrive at a clear, certain comparative determination. That and numbers always made my eyes glaze over.

    Liked your use of multiple variables (over and above IP, ERA, W, L). They added critical and pertinent insight, but they also add to my wonder of other outcome causes and effects. Maybe just a case of give me an inch, I want a mile partly.

    Anyway, I’m wondering out loud (so to speak) about things that don’t wind up in the record books of regular season much less post-season games… the sometimes intangible variables and unique circumstances, such as how many times a starter was used, such as Randy Johnson in the final days of the Seattle pennant run where he started, relieved, started and started again… before the first round of playoffs even began.

    Intangibles such as how many days rest each starter had before making starts. How many pitchers were helped with wins due to go-ahead runs scored in the bottom of an inning after they departed the game. How physically fit the pitcher was, ala Curt Schilling’s ankle. Then, other variables include such as inclement weather, team errors, bad umpire calls (ala Marlins series with Eric Gregg)… and so forth, so on. Certainly our personal perceptions are flawed due to team/player bias or reflect the games we happened to watch, our memories have faded too, but stats are flawed as well.

    Maybe there is a place between stats and perception that is most accurate. The stats help a lot… more than perceptions and memories to be sure.

    My guess on the top five, if we were sitting in a bar placing a bet prior to your homework being available here would have been: Whitey Ford (my childhood hero), John Smoltz, Greg Maddux, Tom Glavine and a wild guess of Orel Hershiser at number 5)…. in that order. I don’t think Maddux would have been higher than three in my guesstimate. So much for guessing and betting. Bet I’d be buying the drinks about now.

    Now, I’m glad that Maddux is at or right at the very top of the post-season list because I think he’s overall the best regular pitcher in the modern era of baseball… and along with Smoltz and Schilling because they are personal favorites and war horses. If some of the older guys like Christy Mathewson and Cy Young hadn’t been such superhumans in pitching several games in a row and such, I’d see Greg at the very top of an all-time list. But there I go again with the variables…

    So WW, thanks for doing the good work and posting the good stats. Denizens, pardon my rambling so long on top of a good post… just such good food for thought and fond memories found there amongst the tables.

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  17. 17 Savannah Guy April 27, 2008 at 1:16 pm

    Football talk during baseball season is just fine by me. Just file it under the category of ‘Good stuff’.

    More good stuff.

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  18. 18 Mr. Fly, sleuth reporter April 27, 2008 at 1:19 pm

    I’ll fly away with that little blossom Alison Krauss any old time.

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  19. 19 Savannah Guy April 27, 2008 at 1:21 pm

    Pay no mind to my little frisky friend. He missed the whole point of that beautiful song. Blossoms on his mind day and night… but he means well.

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  20. 20 Savannah Guy April 27, 2008 at 1:29 pm

    Grinch… I’m curious to know if you cared for the Porcupine Tree – (Blackest Eyes) music clip on the last blog. Knowing some of yours, seems to me that you might. I could be wrong… just wondrin’.

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  21. 22 williamwallace April 27, 2008 at 1:45 pm

    SG, I myself never believed Greg was a good postseason pitcher. I went into this research just trying to figure out why Smoltz has been better than Maddux and Glavine in the postseason. I was kind of shocked to learn from looking at the stats that Maddux was actually great in the postseasons that I thought he kind of stunk in and that he was actually better than Smoltz. I still don’t know what to think every after researching and writing about it because what I found is so contrary to my perception of Maddux in the postseason. But Maddux was screwed bad by two things: woeful run support and poor defense. He let up 16 unearned runs in those 124 innings. That’s pretty awful. Allowing unearned runs to score could be blamed on him but his opponent’s OPS against him was still lower than those other pitchers throughout their periods of dominance. The bottomline is that if his defense played better, his bullpens pitched better and his offense scored some darn runs on a consistent basis, he would be remembered as even better than all of these so called postseason warriors who get glorified because their defense played better, their bullpens pitched better, and their offense scored some darn runs for them.

    Obviously, Mathewson, Koufax and Gibson factor into the conversation and might be more dominant or better in the postseason. Their dominance was in the World Series as opposed to some divisional series and NLCS games Madduzx pitched in. But they did not pitch 120 innings in the postseason at a dominant level like Madduzx did.

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  22. 23 Carolina Lady April 27, 2008 at 1:50 pm

    from FoxNews.com
    Umpire Struck by Pitch, Taken off in Ambulance at Dodgers Game
    Sunday, April 27, 2008

    “LOS ANGELES — Plate umpire Kerwin Danley was taken off the field in an ambulance after he was struck on the jaw by Brad Penny’s fastball that Dodgers catcher Russell Martin missed in the fourth inning Saturday night.

    The game was delayed for 18 minutes, with Danley laying nearly motionless behind home plate before being put on a stretcher and loaded into the ambulance.

    Dodgers spokesman Josh Rawitch said Danley lost consciousness briefly, but was conscious and coherent when he was placed into the ambulance.

    Dodgers medical personnel accompanied him on the ride to Good Samaritan Hospital, where he was taken for precautionary reasons.

    Crew members Brian Runge and Greg Gibson rushed to his side while first-base ump Angel Campos hustled back into the dressing room to put on the gear to work home plate.

    Runge held Danley’s left hand and patted him on the chest while they waited for the ambulance, and the crowd applauded the umpire as he was placed into the vehicle.

    The video board in left field showed Danley, the crew chief, being driven out the center-field gate, with the words “Our best wishes to umpire Kerwin Danley” at the bottom of the screen.

    A Los Angeles native, Danley has been a big league umpire since 1998. He has worked in four division series, the 2007 AL championship series and the 2007 All-Star game.”

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  23. 24 Savannah Guy April 27, 2008 at 2:08 pm

    CL, I just saw that headline on TV a little while ago without your details of course. That’s terrible. Hope it was a glancing enough blow to have not done any serious damage. They said on the tube that it was a 96 mph pitch. Mercy!

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  24. 25 Savannah Guy April 27, 2008 at 2:17 pm

    Let me see… we had Hampton on the DL off, on and off again, then went Gonzo, then Soriano, then Moylan, the Glavine, then Chuck James, then in his last three games including yesterday Huddy looked suspiciously weak… or injured, and now today Smoltz looks… I don’t even want to say it or think it.

    What the hell is going on here? Some is age related but we are at a distinct disadvantage in every game. Yikes.

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  25. 26 Savannah Guy April 27, 2008 at 2:53 pm

    This game is not going very well. Is Smoltz now on the DL?

    Not many posts today or lately. Watching the game? NFL draft? Enjoying a nice Sunday outside? Gardening? Bowling? Sleeping? Playing piano? Banjo? Guitar? Fishing? Shopping? Skydiving? Scuba diving? Knitting? Nascar races? Tennis?

    So many recreational questions…

    Where are the posts? Where are the hits? Need to get some action around here soon on Braves and Stuff. Hmmm, one more question…

    When will the first Kelly Award be won?

    What will The Kelly Award recognize? Best lead post of the month? Best regular post of the month? Best music clip of the month? Congeniality award? Best old story? Comedy? Best baseball talk? Best Stuff? Best pies and cakes? Best blog domination? Most vowels in a sentence? Best spelling? Most fifty-dollar words?

    So many categories of subjects to consider…

    And what will the Kelly Award be? A painting? A drawing? A pie? A UPS BBQ delivery? A million dollars? A pat on the back? A pat on the head? Baseball tickets? A pet squirrel? A custom built birdhouse? A nice tee shirt? A cup o’ joe?

    So many award mementos and prizes to consider…

    Too much to consider and so many questions. I’m tired… must rest now.

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  26. 28 Paladin April 27, 2008 at 3:04 pm

    “Florida lawmakers consider bill banning ornamental testicles “

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  27. 29 Paladin April 27, 2008 at 3:10 pm

    Twenty cents chage.

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  28. 30 Paladin April 27, 2008 at 3:13 pm

    “change”

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  29. 31 morpheus45 April 27, 2008 at 3:24 pm

    I personally hang a totally different kind of balls on my Christmas tree; I’m in no danger of getting arrested. That, and I’m not in Florida.

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  30. 32 Paladin April 27, 2008 at 3:30 pm

    I have no comment on the headline.

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  31. 33 Paladin April 27, 2008 at 3:36 pm

    ‘Course some of those “Go Gator” cheers were a little high-pitched.

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  32. 34 morpheus45 April 27, 2008 at 3:52 pm

    Paladin, we got Thomas Brown! Great change of pace back and kickoff returner; glad he fell to us in round 6. Tough little guy, and you can never have too many Dawgs.

    SG, that wasn’t bad. Not a big fan of the bands that alternate sounding like the Beatles with something much harder back and forth in the same song, but this was better than most. I actually preferred the Victor Whooten solo.

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  33. 35 Paladin April 27, 2008 at 3:58 pm

    One of you math majors need to tell the Braves that .333 is a good BA but it is a PP series average.

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  34. 36 Paladin April 27, 2008 at 4:01 pm

    Grinch; I love the Thomas Brown selection. He is one of the hardest working guys to ever wear the Red and Black. He has talent and a lot of guts.

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  35. 37 Paladin April 27, 2008 at 4:11 pm

    PALM BEACH GARDENS, Fla. (AP) – Police say a 7-year-old Florida boy faces grand theft auto charges after taking his grandmother’s sport utility vehicle for a joyride.

    The eight minute trek left a swath of damage in his Palm Beach Gardens neighborhood Friday. The boy smashed mailboxes, hit parked cars and signposts. He was unhurt.

    Shoot I do more damage than that every time I go to the store.

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  36. 38 Savannah Guy April 27, 2008 at 4:39 pm

    Shoot I do more damage than that every time I go to the store. 😆

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  37. 39 Carolina Lady April 27, 2008 at 5:45 pm

    The kid was quoted as saying, “It’s fun to do bad things.” Any bets on what his future holds??

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  38. 40 Paladin April 27, 2008 at 6:17 pm

    Politician? 👿

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  39. 41 Paladin April 27, 2008 at 6:20 pm

    ww; I’m sure your lead is great stuff. You’ll have to explain it to me, sometime. 😀

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  40. 42 Paladin April 27, 2008 at 6:21 pm

    PALADIN’S OFFICE IS CLOSED FOR DINNER. LEAVE MESSAGE.

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  41. 43 Paladin April 27, 2008 at 7:47 pm

    If we claim to be a country founded on religious freedom, then if someone worships green people(no, not Grinch)with one eye in their foreheads, then we must recognize this. Therefore, unless proof is offered that children in that Texas compound have been, or are in danger of abuse, a Judge should return them to their Mothers. It is unAmerican and religious bigotry to do otherwise.

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  42. 44 Carolina Lady April 27, 2008 at 7:59 pm

    I kinda think making 12 year old girls one of their multiple wives and having babies at that age would constitute abuse. Just my opinion.

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  43. 45 Paladin April 27, 2008 at 8:02 pm

    And I appreciate and value your opinion, CL, but none of that has been PROVED and no one has been charged. We are also a nation of laws.

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  44. 46 Paladin April 27, 2008 at 8:07 pm

    I don’t doubt for a moment that abuses have taken place and should be corrected, and punished. But, there are also men and women who have married when they were of age and their children have been taken from them. That is cruel, and unjust. That is my opinion.

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  45. 47 Paladin April 27, 2008 at 8:10 pm

    I’m going to bed. Y’all have many things to chat about. Have fun.

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  46. 48 Carolina Lady April 27, 2008 at 8:39 pm

    Paladin, I agree that lawful marriages shouldn’t be hampered, but how many marriages is each man allowed? 🙂 I’m not completely informed so I’ll wait until I can address it knowledgeably before I make a total idiot out of myself! 😆

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  47. 49 Bob, journalist April 27, 2008 at 9:12 pm

    Whither Berigen … 48 posts … 21 from Paladin, 11 from Sir Guy … but nary a one from Lincoln Man … nary a one … was ist denn hier los, mein Freund … wo bis du?!

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  48. 50 morpheus45 April 27, 2008 at 9:55 pm

    95% of men who get married to ONE woman are fools; what kind of utter moron would marry multiples? Now, a HAREM on the other hand settles both the legal issue and the psycho power play of the world’s most overrated and depressing institution. The women are free to come and go as they please (and thus are not exploited), the man doesn’t have to put up with their nonsense if he doesn’t want to and they don’t take everything he’s ever worked for and loved on the way out the door; they knew what they were getting into in the first place. I think I’ll apply to be Sultan of Dubai. 🙂

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  49. 51 morpheus45 April 27, 2008 at 9:57 pm

    Bob, I’m counting you in that five percent; I know exactly four men that are happily married, and I know an awful lot of people. Conversely, I know a boatload of women that are happily married, usually to men that aren’t.

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  50. 52 Savannah Guy April 27, 2008 at 10:26 pm

    Morons marry multiple times? Not always, but there’s a catch:

    You must start early if you want many.

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  51. 53 Savannah Guy April 27, 2008 at 10:33 pm

    Been a good day. Get well soon Berigan. Get well soon Braves. G’nite Stuffville.

    I shot an arrow into the air,
    It fell to earth, I knew not where;
    For so swiftly it flew, the sight
    Could not follow it in its flight.
    I breathed a song into the air,

    It fell to earth, I knew not where;

    For, who has sight so keen and strong

    That it can follow the flight of song?
    Long, long afterward, in an oak

    I found the arrow, still unbroke;

    And the song, from beginning to end,

    I found again in the heart of a friend.

    Henry Wadsworth Longfellow

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  52. 54 Savannah Guy April 27, 2008 at 10:39 pm

    One more thing: Grinch… count me as the 5th. Very happily.

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  53. 55 Gil in Mechanicsville April 27, 2008 at 10:49 pm

    Me too my friend… One happy marriage out of two is not too bad is it?

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  54. 56 Gil in Mechanicsville April 27, 2008 at 10:57 pm

    A bit of wisdom passed along to me by my dear father. He told me “a man is entitled to one good woman and one good dog in his life time. It takes a wise man to recognize when he has both.”

    He also told me “always keep a good car and a good woman, if you didn’t. they would both go out on you….”

    Now baseball… My oh my but the Braves pitching staff is coming apart at the seems. First Huddy and now Smoltz. Good thing the Braves have a day off Monday.

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  55. 57 flbravesgirl April 27, 2008 at 11:10 pm

    Well, I am very single but my parents set the best example of a happy marriage that anyone could have. High school sweethearts, married young, all the stuff that’s supposed to go wrong but they beat the odds.

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  56. 59 Bob, journalist April 27, 2008 at 11:35 pm

    I am indeed happily married but I don’t understand … while methinks it’s true that only those for whom you care can cause you great emotional distress, why would anyone get married and not be happy … I don’t think I could ever marry someone who wouldn’t make me happy … dumb move … bummer … bad career decision … methinks Tommy Mansfield and Mickey Rooney were probably happy with each of their many wives … that’s why they got married so many times.

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  57. 60 Bob, journalist April 27, 2008 at 11:43 pm

    Hanson spoke with staff writer Carroll Rogers this past week about his progress, giving some clues why Baseball America ranks him the fourth-best pitching prospect in the Braves organization behind Jair Jurrjens, Cole Rohrbough and Jeff Locke” … well, it’s good to see that Baseball America considers Jair a prospect but why aren’t prospects Cole and Jeff in Atlanta?

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  58. 61 flbravesgirl April 27, 2008 at 11:52 pm

    I suppose it’s because they’re not considered ready yet. Don’t know what level they’re playing at this season.

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  59. 62 flbravesgirl April 28, 2008 at 12:01 am

    OK, I’m not going to miss this one:

    Happy Birthday, Paladin!!!

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  60. 63 chrisklob April 28, 2008 at 12:21 am

    Bob, Kyle Rohrbough has not made his 08 debut yet. I’m not sure why that is exactly, but I know it to be true. Also, he only appeared in about six games at Rome last year.

    Locke is at Rome this year.

    Neither of those guys are any where near ready, just as FBG says.

    Paladin, Happy Birthday!

    WW, nice work on the lead. Very enlightening information! I’d always considered Maddux and Glavine to be underperformers in the post season. I guess I’ll have to rethink that logic!

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  61. 64 flbravesgirl April 28, 2008 at 12:23 am

    Exactly. Someone can be labeled a “top prospect” & still be an absolutely raw talent at Low-A.

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  62. 65 Bob, journalist April 28, 2008 at 12:44 am

    Neither of those guys are any where near ready” … unfortunate but true … something of which I’m well aware, especially with close family in Rome keeping me “informed” … ’twas just my exasperational reaction and/or humor as it seems increasingly probable that the concerns underpinning my lead post are being at least directionally realized.

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  63. 66 flbravesgirl April 28, 2008 at 1:08 am

    Good night y’all.

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  64. 67 BeRiGaN 5 tHe ReTuRn April 28, 2008 at 3:57 am

    Whithered Berigen, reporting for duty, Sir Bob! 😕
    Don’t know what I have, just hope I have turned the tide , the corner or something…still can’t sleep much, now I feel like I am on amphetamines….hot (still have a little fever) and just jittery. No caffeine either…. At least I can breathe and lay down at the same time, if nothing else…
    Too much sinus spray and alka Seltzer cold medicine, I think…..I follow what the bottle says, but they don’t always consider what else you are taking…Maybe being in conjunction with Zicam, Mega B vitamins, weird virus….

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  65. 68 BeRiGaN 5 tHe ReTuRn April 28, 2008 at 4:25 am

    Ok, enough about that…..getting back to the braves…umm, hmmm, wanna hear how many times I need to pee an hour??? 😆

    Man, what else can you do, but laugh right now??? I check the “ex” every week or two, just when there is some braves news, and I can’t get updates anywhere else….so, I was looking to see what the 411 was with Smoltz….
    Doesn’t sound good right now, does it??? Shoulders don’t usually hurt for no good reason…

    And are the panicky Petes out there as well! Couple guys saying the season’s over…and it’s not even May! Don’t miss that talk at all. I mean, do the Mets or Phils the least bit scary this year??? If the Phils go on a 20-5 run or something, then we are in trouble, because the wildcard has a good chance to come out of the West or even the Central this year….

    I think this year we will see more parity than we ever have before. Half the teams in baseball might win their division with 84-85 wins. Shoot, the Tampa Bay Devil Rays are in a tie for first right now!!!
    Perinnial last place teams like the Pirates, are clearly better this year. So are the Royals, heck…I figured the Marlins would be the last place team, not the Nationals.

    You just never know, which is why baseball is the best game there is! 🙂

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  66. 69 BeRiGaN 5 tHe ReTuRn April 28, 2008 at 4:29 am

    Oh, forgot to say, great lead WW!!! (Gee, that looks like world war 3 to my tired eyes! )
    I never would have guessed their numbers were as good if not better than Smoltz’s during those years…Still, I would take a healthy Smoltz over anyone else, and I imagine you would to, if you had to win a game….unless of course, the HATED Jack Morris was available….GRRRRRR! 👿

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  67. 70 Gil in Mechanicsville April 28, 2008 at 5:14 am

    008 Said he would ignore the fact I was getting older is I agreed to do the same…. Consider it done Mr. P….

    Bob, Isn’t it a bummer when you have to explain the joke??? 🙂

    On Smoltz, I am glad we still have some decent arms left. The season could be a disaster or not. Depends on how well the kids respond to the bell when called. This could just be someone’s big opportunity.

    It’s never fun to lose to the Mets but a big reason was the absence of Escobar and Chipper from the line up. It still comes down to pitching however. Jair is emerging and so will Jo Jo I think. Young Reyes has too much talent too not do well in the big leagues.

    Berigan…. Welcome back to the world… 🙂

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  68. 71 Gil in Mechanicsville April 28, 2008 at 5:20 am

    Richmond got their hat handed to them yesterday by the Oriole’s AAA club. Rowenhurst continued to give up runs like cheap nylons….

    The Braves open a three game series at Durham Monday at 7:05. Charlie Morton is slated to pitch for Richmond against Scott Kazmir. That is a game I would pay money to see right there…

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  69. 72 BeRiGaN 5 tHe ReTuRn April 28, 2008 at 6:17 am

    Dammit Gil, ring a bell or something when you show up early, will ya?? 😡

    Swear these posts where not here when I hit refresh awhiles back….

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  70. 73 Bob, journalist April 28, 2008 at 7:38 am

    Bob, Isn’t it a bummer when you have to explain the joke???” … twas on advice of Carol, who thought it best.

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  71. 74 chrisklob April 28, 2008 at 7:51 am

    Bob, Isn’t it a bummer when you have to explain the joke???

    That was a joke? I feel better now. I thought Bob was starting to lose it!

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  72. 75 Voice of Raisins April 28, 2008 at 8:40 am

    G’morning… gotta find my coffee…

    Palomino: Happy Birthday!!! 😀

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  73. 76 Paladin April 28, 2008 at 8:45 am

    Thanks, I guess, to those that have already wished me a happy birthday. My favorite great-grandniece, FBG, almost set a record. 😀 And I want to thank Gil for keeping our deal.

    My niece came over yesterday and we were looking for candles to put on my cake. We couldn’t find them but I did find the rest of my Easter eggs so it was a wash. Besides, I can’t put all of the candles on my cake. Drought conditions and all, I couldn’t get a burn permit. So, I’ll put 21 on it. One for each pill I take.

    The most important thing is: When is our Dalai Moma going to disclose her Birthday? Many inquiring minds want to know. Later. My gruel is growing cold.

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  74. 77 morpheus45 April 28, 2008 at 8:49 am

    Morning, all. One can do all sorts of things with numbers, but looking at a graph doesn’t make me forget what I watched. Maddux was pretty mediocre most of the time in the PS, gawdawful some of it and pretty good some of it (and I posted earlier in this same thread that I thought he was the best pitcher of the last 30 years). What I saw of Glavine (save ’95) was a good bit worse. I remember thinking to myself several years when Bobby would go to his three-man rotation (unlike any other manager) that Glavine was the one who should have been left out.

    I have this same problem with Jo-Jo Reyes as a REGULAR pitcher; admittedly I haven’t seen all his big league starts, but I’ve seen four. In all four he looked like someone who IF THEY COULD FIND THE PLATE might have the stuff to be a mid to back end of the rotation type. But he couldn’t find the plate, at all. I assume he looks a hell of a lot better at Richmond, and KC told me there were a couple of starts of his that I missed where he looked pretty good. Fair enough, but I’d still just like to see even one (and if not a single dang one of our other starters can’t pitch more than four innings we might as well bring him and Morton up too).

    On a good note, the Falcons draft wasn’t a disaster overall, and the Hawks actually looked like an NBA team the other night in the playoffs.

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  75. 78 morpheus45 April 28, 2008 at 8:52 am

    Morning and Happy Birthday, Paladin. I’ll get you some extra plastic pill separators with the day of the week on each compartment. 🙂

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  76. 80 morpheus45 April 28, 2008 at 8:55 am

    http://www.atlantafalcons.com/News/Articles/2008/04/NFL_Draft/Quotable_Draft_Wrap_Up_042708.aspx

    Pal, read that and it should make you feel a bit better about the draft. Apparently there was some method after all.

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  77. 81 Voice of Raisins April 28, 2008 at 9:06 am

    Grincher… I watched JoJo alot last season. Early on, he looked totally overmatched and over his head, but in his last 2 or 3 starts, it was as if a light bulb turned on somewhere and he suddenly was a pitcher. He showed me, at least, in those last few starts that he has a bright future on this staff. And with the starters dropping more frequently than the Spears sisters’ drawers, the future could begin very soon.

    Now, Falcons. (Still going for the journalist-like transitions…) I like what they did in the draft OK… I, like most, am a little perplexed at the lack of interior linemen drafted. I have to believe, though, that Dimitroff has a plan, and that he’s executing it the best he can with the players available. Also, I read many times that Grady Jackson is a possible FA, how many OL FA’s are still job hunting? I can’t believe that they’ll keep Joe Horn’s salary on the books too much longer, so there should be a little FA money available.

    Now, Hawks. Do I expect them to win this series? No. I don’t even really expect them to win another game. But they did show me something the other night; they showed me guts, pride and desire. I have seen none of those in recent seasons. If they have a real coach next season, and can re-sign the Joshes, they could be a very interesting team in the East. And I absolutely LOVE Al Horford. He is easily the best draft pick of Billy Knight’s sorry career. But, hey, even a blind squirrel finds a nut every now and then…

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  78. 82 Paladin April 28, 2008 at 9:06 am

    Thanks SG. I like that, or more accurately, I still like that! Grinch, I don’t need day separators; I need hour separators. Nurse Retched is too busy and Chief can’t count.

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  79. 83 Paladin April 28, 2008 at 9:19 am

    I have a question for you guys. Who are the Hawks? 😛

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  80. 84 Voice of Raisins April 28, 2008 at 9:24 am

    The Hawks are Mike Bibby, Joe Johnson, Marvin Williams, Josh Smith, Al Horford, Josh Childress and six barely warm bodies wearing Hawks sweats… and the worst head coach in the NBA.

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  81. 85 Voice of Raisins April 28, 2008 at 9:28 am

    Now, Braves.

    Good news! Nobody should be injured tonight! 😀

    Chipper, Yunel and Glav should all return Tuesday. The news on Soriano is not so good. He threw from a mound yesterday and continued to experience soreness in the elbow. He’s supposed to throw again Tuesday in DC…

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  82. 86 Gil in Mechanicsville April 28, 2008 at 9:33 am

    I think Smoltz’s effort yesterday is an example of what the term “grind it out” is all about. Smoltzie might be done. Mike Hampton may not be quite ready but he might get thrown in pretty soon. What I witnessed Friday night was two Mike Hampton, one was Mike doing a rehab assignment in a game that meant little to him and the other was the Mike Hampton that was worth every penny of the $15 million the Braves are paying him when he brought his “A” game and started making batters look foolish on some nasty breaking stuff.

    I know he is not ready to go full as of yet but there are two off days for the Braves in this week. Hampton is scheduled to make his second rehab start Wednesday. I think the best case is he would be ready to go for the Atlanta club next Monday.

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  83. 87 Paladin April 28, 2008 at 9:43 am

    No, the Hawks are the team that started the run on naming Atlanta teams after birds…instead of Bubbas or something natural. The Atlanta Bubbadawgs. Now, doesn’t that sound better than birds?

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  84. 88 Paladin April 28, 2008 at 9:50 am

    Oh btw, the our-aces-against-the-back-of-their-rotation plan didn’t work too well. Next! And if there is a half-of-a-bag-of-balls offer for Ohman, take it!

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  85. 89 Voice of Raisins April 28, 2008 at 10:03 am

    “Florida lawmakers consider bill banning ornamental testicles “

    And if there is a half-of-a-bag-of-balls offer for Ohman, take it!

    Obviously, you don’t advocate a trade to a Florida team… 😆

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  86. 90 Carolina Lady April 28, 2008 at 10:06 am

    HAPPY BIRTHDAY, PALADIN!!

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  87. 91 williamwallace April 28, 2008 at 10:08 am

    Sorry Grinch but Matt Ryan was an awful pick. You don’t waste top 5 picks on the Matt Ryans of the world.

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  88. 92 Voice of Raisins April 28, 2008 at 10:19 am

    ww: Great lead!

    I can’t call Ryan an awful pick. I’d rather they had picked Dorsey, but they are privy to way more information than we are, and I have to assume there was a good reason they passed on him. Only time will tell on Ryan. Risky? Yes. Awful? No, not awful… yet. Gotta wait on this’un. Ryan has the prototype QB build and the skillset to succeed. It’s not like they took Colt Brennan. Here’s the key – they have to get him signed so that he doesn’t miss ANY time. He needs ALL of the mini-camps, etc.

    Bottom line to me: he has the potential to be Rothlisberger, Rivers or Brees. Heck, even if he turns out to be Jake Plummer, it’s still a huge step forward. I’d be happy with that.

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  89. 93 Paladin April 28, 2008 at 10:20 am

    Behave Raisins! If the birthday boy can’t make that connection, you sure can’t! 😛

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  90. 94 Paladin April 28, 2008 at 10:22 am

    Ryan will achieve greatness. But, since he needs a supporting cast to do so, will it be in my lifetime? I hope.

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  91. 95 Paladin April 28, 2008 at 10:36 am

    “Californians return to beaches not worried about testicles”. Oh, wait a minute. Did I get those stories mixed up?

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  92. 96 Voice of Raisins April 28, 2008 at 10:44 am

    This according to the NY Daily News today:

    Roger Clemens carried on a decade-long affair with country star Mindy McCready, a romance that began when McCready was a 15-year-old aspiring singer performing in a karaoke bar and Clemens was a 28-year-old Red Sox ace and married father of two, several sources have told the Daily News.

    http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/baseball/yankees/2008/04/27/2008-04-27_sources_roger_clemens_had_10year_fling_w.html

    Uh, Roger, a 15-year-old? 😯

    Well, at least we know why he needed performance enhancing drugs…

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  93. 97 Paladin April 28, 2008 at 10:52 am

    Question: If Chien-Ming Wang pitched for the Braves what would Bobby call him? No, don’t answer. This is a family blog.

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  94. 98 Voice of Raisins April 28, 2008 at 10:56 am

    Check out this story about the 7-year-old who stole his grandmother’s car. Stay with it until the end and listen to this little $#!+’s attitude toward the havoc he caused.

    http://www.wptv.com/mostpopular/story.aspx?content_id=92cf57ab-287d-49c8-8252-5618f76930f1

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  95. 99 Voice of Raisins April 28, 2008 at 10:57 am

    Pal: “Kid”

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  96. 100 Voice of Raisins April 28, 2008 at 10:58 am

    Clarification:

    Question: If Chien-Ming Wang pitched for the Braves what would Bobby call him?

    Pal: “Kid”

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  97. 101 Voice of Raisins April 28, 2008 at 11:02 am

    The Rays are tied with the O’s atop the AL East. What universe am I living in?

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  98. 102 williamwallace April 28, 2008 at 11:02 am

    I wish they had drafted better than Ryan but they really got screwed with a bad pool of talent in this draft. I would have gone with Dorsey

    VOR, you are right. Saying that Ryan was an awful pick is wrong on my part. I just don’t like the pick. I don’t think he is a game changer. I do like that he is pretty athletic and has a good arm. Most importantly, he has a gunslinger mentality like Favre – and like Eli Manning when Eli is not overthinking the game and not trying to be a perfectionist like his brother. The best thing I can say about Ryan is that he has the smarts to know when and why he made a mistake but also the gunslinger courage to not be afraid to make the same mistake again if he has to.

    Hey, I am a Giants fan as well. I have always been an Eli basher and thought that was a mistake pick and trade. But clearly I was wrong since they won a Super Bowl – in part because Eli is a smart QB like Ryan who is really good when he is not afraid to let it all hang out and not afraid to make mistakes. But like Eli, I don’t think Ryan is gonna be any good or make a difference unless he is getting great play in the offensive line and defensive line trenches. The biggest reason the Giants won the Super Bowl was because their defensive line manhandled the Patriots celebrated offensive line. I think that Dorsey could have been the difference maker like the Giants D line was. I guess we’ll see

    Howie Long’s son is good but is he really second overall good? I have a hard time believing that.

    I do like the pickup of Thomas Brown

    Sign of the times – not one member of the Alabama Crimson Tide was selected in the draft. Mike Shula was a pretty bad coach. It’s a credit to Nick Saban that he did as well as he did last season without having his own fully loaded frosh class and without having any upperclassman worthy of selection in the pro draft.

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  99. 103 Gil in Mechanicsville April 28, 2008 at 11:06 am

    “And verily I say, the last shall be first and the first shall be last”… It is written….

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  100. 104 williamwallace April 28, 2008 at 11:07 am

    When people ask why athletes don’t sue for defamation when someone accuses them of roids, they often ignore that the rest of the guy’s dirty laundry is gonna come out – like affairs with 15 year olds or their wife doing HGH or their father doing HGH. Clemens would have been best off just shutting up when he got accused by Mitchell – because he is guilty and because alot of his dirty laundry has been hidden under the bed while the media was worshipping their big old Texas boy. Now it’s all coming out. Now everyone even knows his wife once shared fake boob tales with Jose Canseco’s ex

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  101. 105 Paladin April 28, 2008 at 11:09 am

    Speaking of bubbas(noted lack of transition), I have this advice to the Ga. legislature. Instead of conducting a costly, and impossible, series of litigations to tap the Tenn. River, instead do this. Go up to Dade county(just miles from the river)and dig a 1000 wells into the aquifer and pump the water to Atlanta and other parts of the state. The river will continually refill the aquifer and there is nothing Tn can do about it. AND it won’t be that much more expensive, if any, than tapping into the river, itself.

    Now, I’m off to the Senior Center to get my birthday cupcake and koolaid. Then, I’ll stop off at Jack’s and have a couple of beefsticks, a pickled egg and a pitcher of brew. Later.

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  102. 106 Voice of Raisins April 28, 2008 at 11:12 am

    But like Eli, I don’t think Ryan is gonna be any good or make a difference unless he is getting great play in the offensive line and defensive line trenches.

    100% in agreement. However, that goes for almost any QB. It all starts inside and works its way out. Look at Indy and NE. Unrivaled steadiness in the trenches. Combine it with talented “skill” players (a term I hate!) and you have yourself a Super Bowl contender.

    You are also right that this draft wasn’t rife with potential immediate impact. Maybe that’s why TD approached it the way he did, knowing that he wasn’t gonna fix it all this weekend. I like most of the picks. Let’s face it, as bad as the Falcons were this past season, anything he picked outside of PK was filling a need.

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  103. 107 Gil in Mechanicsville April 28, 2008 at 11:12 am

    A word to the wise… Joe Gibbs in his hey day made a good living cultivating number 5 and 6 round picks. Number one picks are usually top line players over the course of their careers. Not always the case if those players were quaterbacks. I sometimes wonde who is making the decisions on which players to draft. The coaches or the marketing guys who only know football by what the see on ESPN. Come to think of it, maybe the coaches only know what they see on ESPN.

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  104. 108 williamwallace April 28, 2008 at 11:13 am

    Gil, what do you think about Kyle Busch? I thought that was a HUGE mistake by Hendricks last year to dump Kyle and keep Mears. I know Kyle is an absolute pain in the rear – even more so than his brother – but that kid has more talent than anyone. I love watching that kid race. I think Gibbs has a really great trio right now with Stewart, Hamlin, and Busch. Stewart and Hamlin drive like ferocious middle linebackers and Busch drives like a kamikaze free safety. Those three don’t care who is in their way – not even each other

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  105. 109 flbravesgirl April 28, 2008 at 11:15 am

    Good morning y’all.

    Clemens’ supporters thought “steroid user” sounded bad? How about “child molester”? I don’t care how grown up a teenage girl looks, 15 is still a child & a 28-year old should know better. I imagine it’s too late to charge him (WW or Paladin could probably give us the legal info). Too bad they can’t toss him in jail where he belongs.

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  106. 110 Voice of Raisins April 28, 2008 at 11:17 am

    Now, I’m off to the Senior Center to get my birthday cupcake and koolaid. Then, I’ll stop off at Jack’s and have a couple of beefsticks, a pickled egg and a pitcher of brew. Later.

    You are the MAN!!!

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  107. 111 Voice of Raisins April 28, 2008 at 11:20 am

    I think it’s fairly proper to simply say the Clemens is an ass. (That is, of course, if the filter doesn’t eat my post) He has been, is and probably always will be an ass.

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  108. 112 williamwallace April 28, 2008 at 11:21 am

    As for my Maddux lead, I probably should have labeled it: Was Maddux Better In The Postseason Than We Remember? instead of was he the greatest ever in his prime in the postseason. I certainly don’t remember him being great at all. But it’s awfully hard to say someone isn’t great in the postseason when they put a 1.85 ERA over 124 consecutive innings in the postseason and that result is better than anyone else has put up over a similar span of postseason innings.

    He was badly victimized by poor and inconsistent run support and by unearned runs. That has also been true of the Braves over the last 2+ seasons as well. They’ve let up about 10 to 15 more unearned runs than they should have over the entire season and their offense, while putting up great overall numbers, has been very guilty of providing a lack of run support in games they don’t slaughter someone.

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  109. 113 flbravesgirl April 28, 2008 at 11:25 am

    Well, I always thought he seemed like a jerk, VOR, but this is 😯 .

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  110. 114 Salty April 28, 2008 at 11:27 am

    Good news! Nobody should be injured tonight!

    So…they’re not dressing today?

    Happ Birthday, Paladin! Smokey the Bear appreciates your ‘candle’ restraint! 😛

    Blow Hard!

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  111. 115 Voice of Raisins April 28, 2008 at 11:31 am

    Maddux was the greatest pitcher I have ever watched. I know “chicks dig the long-ball”, but it was always a pure pleasure to watch Greg Maddux literally carve up a lineup with the precision of a surgeon. I remember reading an interview with him several years ago where he talked about getting specific movement on his pitches simply by altering the finger pressure on the baseball. Pure genius.

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  112. 116 Voice of Raisins April 28, 2008 at 11:36 am

    More Falcons stuff: I’m listening to ESPN radio right now. For what it’s worth, Mel Kuiper thinks TD made the right pick with Ryan at 3… Also, TD is supposed to be on with Cowherd at the top of the hour. Should be interesting.

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  113. 117 williamwallace April 28, 2008 at 11:38 am

    I can never understand why a man who can get any woman he wants, resorts to playing around with little girls. Always boggles my mind. The reality is that they often can’t get any woman they want despite their looks, money, and fame. They are often domineering bullies who want to control things. It’s harder to control adult women. What we know about Clemens is that he is a control freak and likes to look down upon people. From his testimony, we can tell he still has the mentality of an emotionally stunted teenager himself. He still seems to think and talk like one – thus, why he may only be capable of conducting a conversation with those of the opposite sex who are at the same intellectual, emotional and conversational level he dwells in. Maybe he didn’t do it. Where there’s smoke, there’s fire, however. Why would a grown man hang with a teen? The girl may have looked great at 15 but she still looked 15 and everyone knew she was 15. Bizarre even if he didn’t touch her

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  114. 118 Voice of Raisins April 28, 2008 at 11:39 am

    Clarification:

    Maddux was the greatest pitcher I have ever watched.

    Still very good, but not still great.

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  115. 119 Voice of Raisins April 28, 2008 at 11:45 am

    OK, now Cowherd says TD was on at the top of LAST hour… Oh, well, it probably WAS interesting…

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  116. 120 flbravesgirl April 28, 2008 at 11:52 am

    This chick likes pitching duels, VOR. Maddux was great fun to watch. You know teams went to their clubhouse at the end of the game wondering how that smallish, nerdy-looking, goofy-acting guy could dominate them the way he did. Clark Kent/ Superman.

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  117. 121 Gil in Mechanicsville April 28, 2008 at 11:59 am

    So many story lines to follow today… It’s would be a good day to be back page news. 🙂 Unless you are a movie star…

    Now Clemens… Sad…. I cannot say he is guilty of being a child molester but he is guilty of being incredibly stupid. Sometimes you have to know when to keep your mouth shut.

    I was a fan of Mindy but you knew her career was in the tank when she would get bookings to the Podunk County Fair while her contemporaries were playing the big arenas in Atlanta and Dallas. Her first big public mistake was the nude calendar she posed for. Very tame by todays standards but racy for country music all the same.

    I thought it was funny that the New York Daily News reported Clemens as a past member of the Boston Red Soxs and the Houston Astros. No mention of the fact he pitched for the Yankees.

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  118. 122 morpheus45 April 28, 2008 at 12:02 pm

    Morning again. WW, there were only two DT’s available in the draft that were better than what we signed in free agency. There are also NO QB’s coming out next year. Ryan is polite, intelligent and not likely to get into trouble; a must for the most visible Falcon for the next 10 years. They would’ve had to give up all three 2nd rounders (and likely a 3rd or 4th) to move back up to get Ellis…not gonna happen. I think they did ok; they’re looking ahead to next year’s draft too and if you read that link I posted earlier they explained everything in a way that makes pretty good sense to me.

    Y’all, I’m no more a child molester than the next Grinch, but I feel I need to drop some knowledge on you. There is a switch that is thrown at about age 14 and 3/4 which turns a girl who really is a little girl directly into the shrewd, calculating, evil little trollop she’ll remain until her mid-to-late 30’s. They are no longer in ANY sense victims; quite the opposite. Since I don’t advocate innocent men going to jail right and left I think that unacompanied 15 year olds should either be locked in a halfway house until they’re of age or at least be under 24 hour camera/voice surveillance. I’ve barely escaped with my freedom and sanity several times and watched it happened to others too often not to speak up. And any of you with 15 year old daughters who don’t know better; God help you.

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  119. 123 Voice of Raisins April 28, 2008 at 12:02 pm

    FBG: It was always alot of fun watching hitters look so befuddled walking back to the dugout 😆

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  120. 124 morpheus45 April 28, 2008 at 12:03 pm

    Not that I’m defending Clemmens, mind you…I think he’s an ass. 🙂

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  121. 125 Voice of Raisins April 28, 2008 at 12:04 pm

    OK, now Cowherd says TD is coming up next. 😐

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  122. 126 Voice of Raisins April 28, 2008 at 12:06 pm

    Dimitroff quote: “You go as your quarterback goes.”

    Translation: “Our current QB’s suck. We don’t want to suck.”

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  123. 127 flbravesgirl April 28, 2008 at 12:07 pm

    My green friend, you’re going to give me a complex.

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  124. 128 morpheus45 April 28, 2008 at 12:12 pm

    You have a 15 year old daughter?

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  125. 129 williamwallace April 28, 2008 at 12:13 pm

    Bill Simmons commented in one of his columns a few weeks ago how stupid MLB is in not being more proactive in putting their product on youtube. I have to agree. If you look at football and basketball, youtube is filled with highlight reels. You would think youtube would be the best way to sell the greatness of the past and present. But MLB in their greed continues to be shortsighted. They want to monopolize their highlight reels and make you pay for them at their website. Just very stupid.

    Another big problem is that they are not buying and selling the teenaged phenom the way basketball and football do. I can only find one clip of Heyward in high school – and that was put up because some kid wanted to show off that he struck out Heyward at the amateur level. MLB is missing a great marketing tool by not exploiting youtube. As a Bama alum and a UGA fan, I can go on youtube and find countless highlight reels for almost every kid Bama and UGA signed. I can’t find nothing on these Braves draftees or minor leaguers.

    You would think that the Braves would be better able to sell their draftees and minor league players if they would put together highlight packages and upload them to youtube. Makes too much sense to me. But of course MLB is always 20 years behind everyone else. If you want to increase revenue and attendance, start selling the hell out of these kids long before they play a game at the Ted. Heck, at the very least, you can increase trade value for many of the minor leaguers if fans from other teams like what they see and put pressure on their front offices to make stupid trades to get those payers.

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  126. 130 Gil in Mechanicsville April 28, 2008 at 12:14 pm

    FBG… I didn’t know you were just 15….

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  127. 131 flbravesgirl April 28, 2008 at 12:15 pm

    No, silly Grinch.

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  128. 132 flbravesgirl April 28, 2008 at 12:17 pm

    Add quite a few years onto that, Gil.

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  129. 133 Voice of Raisins April 28, 2008 at 12:19 pm

    Nice Ryan story from TD: During one of the pre-draft interviews, the Falcons braintrust threw alot of offensive info at him, then put him through the grill of posing defensive formations, motion etc. For each situation, Ryan was to explain how he would react under center. During the course of this long interview, Ryan answered everything correctly. Upon completion, he calmly sat down and smiled at TD, giving him a smug “You couldn’t stump me” look. TD said he liked the confidence/arrogance.

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  130. 134 Gil in Mechanicsville April 28, 2008 at 12:22 pm

    Life lesson that could transfer to baseball… Many heroes are not awarded medals for their valor because they did not have the benefit of a good publicist.

    Translation… you can be the greatest player in the world and not get a shot but with the right PR and a good agent, you can be a marginal pitcher in the big leagues and sign multi million dollar contracts and still stink up the place….

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  131. 135 Voice of Raisins April 28, 2008 at 12:24 pm

    ww: Great insight into the shortsightedness of MLB. They are completely losing a whole generation of potential fans. Too many reasons to list…

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  132. 136 morpheus45 April 28, 2008 at 12:27 pm

    He’ll be a good QB. Three things a lot of fans are forgetting or haven’t noticed; in the off season we hired very, very good coaches for both the offensive and defensive lines. We also signed two new DT’s, who aren’t flashy but backing up Grady (who I think they’ll also get) will get the job done this year as a stop-gap. AND, just about every player TD drafted from the third round on are special teams monsters, which is a third of the game. Everyone he picked has a good, hard-working attitude and isn’t a thug. Next year he drafts and signs a bunch of beef and the following year we’re in business for years to come. Fear not.

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  133. 137 Gil in Mechanicsville April 28, 2008 at 12:28 pm

    The Falcons should really resist the idea of starting a rookie quarterback before he is ready. It takes a kid with good intelligence about 2 years to learn a system. That is before they actually play in a game. Rushing a kid too soon usually results in the home town crowd becoming disillusioned and the kid goes on to become a star for some other franchise or is so shell shocked he will be like a gun shy bird dog. A good nose but not worth a damn in a hunt….

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  134. 138 williamwallace April 28, 2008 at 12:34 pm

    The thing that scares me about Ryan is that he might know what to do but last year he still threw 18 touchdowns and 15 interceptions in 10 games against FSU, Miami, Notre Dame, Va Tech, Ga Tech, Clemson, NC State, Maryland and Michigan State

    The year before he threw 10 TDs and 9 INTS in 8 games against Clemson, BYU, NC State, VA Tech, Wake Forest, Maryland, Miami and Navy

    That’s 28 TDs and 24 INTs in his 18 toughest games the last 2 years.

    I know BC ain’t very good but neither are the Falcons and neither is Matt Ryan IMO – at least not third overall good but I’ll guess we’ll see.

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  135. 139 williamwallace April 28, 2008 at 12:43 pm

    Billy Ray Cyrus had better hide Hannah Montana from the Rocket

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  136. 140 Carolina Lady April 28, 2008 at 12:45 pm

    Grinch, what you said was that FBG and I were “shrewd, calculating, evil little trollop she’ll remain until her mid-to-late 30’s.”

    What were males at those ages?

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  137. 141 williamwallace April 28, 2008 at 12:49 pm

    Grinch, the women started being evil to me when we were 8 🙂

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  138. 142 williamwallace April 28, 2008 at 12:50 pm

    Billy Ray Cyrus will definitely have an achy breaky heart if he lets his Hannah Montana girl around the Rocket

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  139. 143 Voice of Raisins April 28, 2008 at 12:51 pm

    One big reason for Ryan’s high INT numbers wasn’t inaccuracy, but rather bad receiver routes. He was in a pro-style precision read and react offense where he was to throw to a spot where his receivers should be. Too many times, his receivers made their breaks late or simply not at all. I’ll be interested to see how he does with pro receivers.

    Gil: I doubt very strongly that they would entertain thoughts of starting Ryan too quickly. They resigned Redman to a 2 year deal for a reason. The only QB battle will be for the backup spot between Joey and Shockley. My money is on Shock, provided his knee is sufficiently healed.

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  140. 144 Voice of Raisins April 28, 2008 at 12:53 pm

    What were males at those ages?

    Openly horny…

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  141. 145 Voice of Raisins April 28, 2008 at 12:54 pm

    Sorry… Who’s got the keys to the doghouse? 😦

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  142. 146 Gil in Mechanicsville April 28, 2008 at 12:55 pm

    Braveheart

    On Kyle Bush… Wow what a talented kid but a bit too much mouth for his own good. It takes a good rider to tame a wild horse and someone like Joe Gibbs is a master at motivating and harnessing the talent of folks who think like jocks. I don’t know if Tony Steward could have been as successful with any other owner group like he has been with Joe Gibbs. His tirades are legendary. Anger management and restoring his image has a lot to do with Gibbs.

    Denny Hamlin was indeed fortunate to land with Gibbs but he earned it and he has shown he deserved the shot. As soon as the boss explained to him that Tony’s definition of team work meant Tony was always top dog and that Denny would have to stoop and bow to his Tonyness, things were cool.

    I thought Denny must have been given all of J.J. Yeley’s old equipment the way he started the season. He has already been pushed out of his Nationwide ride for most of the year but racing is becoming more and more a team sport.

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  143. 147 williamwallace April 28, 2008 at 12:59 pm

    The problem is the Falcons don’t have any legit pro receivers. Roddy stepped up a bit last year and Laurent looks promising but they still have a shaky receiving corps and a shaky offensive line that will make him rush his reads and throw to receivers who don’t run the best routes or get the best separation or have the best hands.

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  144. 148 Gil in Mechanicsville April 28, 2008 at 12:59 pm

    I can answer that question for Grinch CL…. And Idiots….. 🙂

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  145. 149 Voice of Raisins April 28, 2008 at 1:03 pm

    The problem is the Falcons don’t have any legit pro receivers. Roddy stepped up a bit last year and Laurent looks promising but they still have a shaky receiving corps and a shaky offensive line that will make him rush his reads and throw to receivers who don’t run the best routes or get the best separation or have the best hands.

    True enough for this year. He ain’t playin’ this year…

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  146. 150 Voice of Raisins April 28, 2008 at 1:04 pm

    Oops 😳

    Forgot to “unbold”…

    Shoulda read “True enough for this year. He ain’t playin’ this year…”

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  147. 151 williamwallace April 28, 2008 at 1:09 pm

    Gil, yeah, Busch has a really big mouth. But the sport needs a bad dude like him who runs his mouth and will knock anyone out of his way trying to win. That kid is really fun to watch. Can you imagine if Hendricks had Junior, Gordon, Jimmie and Kyle on the same team? I love Junior but he’s the worst out of that foursome. But Busch probably did need achange of scenery and Gibbs was probably the perfect place for him to go.

    I agree with you about Stewart. Anywhere else but with Gibbs, his career would not have lasted very long. The sad thing about Stewart is that he is probably the best driver in NASCAR but he blows a handful of races a year at least being stupid, macho and who knows what goes through that moody SOB’s head sometimes. Yesterday was a perfect example. Got too aggressive and wiped everyone out. Of course, he wasn’t man enough to openly admit it like he demands out of other drivers. Hamlin is a great talent. I like his style. He just keeps charging and charging and charging. I read last week that Stewart is thinking about changing teams or starting up his own. That would be the dumbest move for him.

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  148. 152 morpheus45 April 28, 2008 at 1:12 pm

    VOR, correct. And that reciever that we drafted is a Wes Welker-type who’s known for getting separation.

    CL and FBG, boys at 15 are little %$#’s who are stupid, often cruel and always completely succeptible to their raging horomones. The girls are taught to take advantage of it for monetary and social status reasons. It’s been that way in Western culture for centuries. I don’t make the world; I just live in it.

    The two of you are obviously exceptions or you wouldn’t be on here. You’d be telling some poor schmuck to take out the trash while on your way out the door to Neiman Marcus with his credit card. You’re independent and decent women who’ve done things a different way and that’s why I count you among my friends and trust you both. Before both of you tear me a new one, ask yourselves how many women outside of family you know and trust (you’re hanging out on an almost all male blog), and then how many males? Yes, I know it works both ways; just in a different style. Wish it were different.

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  149. 153 morpheus45 April 28, 2008 at 1:13 pm

    Let me qualify that: women and men under 30.

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  150. 154 Voice of Raisins April 28, 2008 at 1:19 pm

    Just listened to Kirk Herbstreit on ESPN. He absolutely gushed over the Falcons whole draft…

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  151. 155 Gil in Mechanicsville April 28, 2008 at 1:27 pm

    Uh… Grinch, I don’t think age changes a whole lot… Money and status and a bunch of other things become part of the equation. You must remember, women and cats pretty much do as they please and the sooner men and dogs accept that, the easier things will go…

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  152. 156 Voice of Raisins April 28, 2008 at 1:27 pm

    women and cats pretty much do as they please and the sooner men and dogs accept that, the easier things will go…

    😆 😆 😆

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  153. 157 Voice of Raisins April 28, 2008 at 1:29 pm

    😯

    Not only are they talking about the Hawks in a positive light on ESPN, Mike Tirico is picking them to win tonight.

    Now I know I’m in an alternate universe…

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  154. 158 morpheus45 April 28, 2008 at 1:31 pm

    Fair enough, Gil; I guess that’s why my dog and I get along just fine. 🙂

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  155. 159 Voice of Raisins April 28, 2008 at 1:37 pm

    Tirico is now backpedaling off the Hawks pick. Maybe I am in the right universe…

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  156. 160 Gil in Mechanicsville April 28, 2008 at 1:39 pm

    WW… My wife is a Tony Steward fan.. It is funny how she always gets resentful of having to apologize for him. She was a Dale Earnhardt fan until his untimely death. We got away from watching the sport until Denny came along. I found someone to root for again. (I was a fan of everyone else besides Earnhardt… 🙂 )

    I sometimes miss the regional feel of NASCAR but I understand business and so I can accept the attempts at expansion into California and New York. I just don’t think it will ever be accepted by the New York City folks as they think it to be a hick sport. well…. it might be….

    Sometimes people try to reach a little too far and lose the support of the people who made them successful to begin with. I call it the ex spouse syndrome. Folks are so driven by the idea that the grass is always greener on the other side of the fence that they forget they still have to mow the lawn.

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  157. 161 flbravesgirl April 28, 2008 at 1:41 pm

    OK, I guess we won’t have to skewer Grinch & set him over a slow fire. 😉

    Seriously, thank you. I know you don’t trust anyone, especially females, easily.

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  158. 162 Gil in Mechanicsville April 28, 2008 at 1:44 pm

    Women should never introduce their significant other to their best friend if they want to keep both….. Man Law….

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  159. 163 Gil in Mechanicsville April 28, 2008 at 1:45 pm

    Okay folks, break time for me.. Catch up with you all later…

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  160. 164 Paladin April 28, 2008 at 1:48 pm

    I just returned to see where Grinch got himself in deep kimchee and has gone full-speed astern in the back-fill mode. Been there. Done that!

    How times and decades change. At the Senior Center I make a pass at a 59 year old and I feel like Roger Clements. BTW, she doesn’t look her age, either. Much younger. 👿

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  161. 165 flbravesgirl April 28, 2008 at 1:53 pm

    And, Grinch, my other online “community”, the skating board I belong to, is completely female. I’ve seen a couple of posts over the years from men who are involved professionally in skating & that’s it.

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  162. 166 flbravesgirl April 28, 2008 at 1:59 pm

    Did you impress her with your hot-shot pilot history, birthday boy?

    ( Does anyone else picture Paladin with the goggles & leather cap you see in old footage of pilots?)

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  163. 167 Voice of Raisins April 28, 2008 at 2:00 pm

    FBG into skateboarding!?! I woulda never guessed… 😀

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  164. 168 morpheus45 April 28, 2008 at 2:02 pm

    Paladin, I didn’t backpedal at all; I just elaborated further. If it’s not something completely inconsequential I ALWAYS tell the truth. It’s one reason I’m usually alone. Don’t ever believe anyone who tells you they appreciate honesty; that’s the biggest lie of all. I’m living proof; ask any of my friends. “You really want to know the answer to that? Go ask (my real name). Just be prepared.”

    Y’all, Jason Stark’s blog on ESPN today is who is the bigger thief in baseball: Barry Zito or Mike Hampton? He makes the case for both, and thinks it’s Hampton. The national responses are quite interesting.

    Gotta run; everyone behave.

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  165. 169 Voice of Raisins April 28, 2008 at 2:03 pm

    Does anyone else picture Paladin with the goggles & leather cap you see in old footage of pilots? 😆

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  166. 170 Paladin April 28, 2008 at 2:03 pm

    Actually, I asked if she was a member of the mile high club. 👿

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  167. 171 flbravesgirl April 28, 2008 at 2:04 pm

    Figure skating discussion board .

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  168. 172 Paladin April 28, 2008 at 2:04 pm

    Anybody know the cheapest air-rates to Denver?

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  169. 173 williamwallace April 28, 2008 at 2:05 pm

    Yeah, Gil, sad to say, but I never saw Earnhardt race. I’m one of those Yankee transplants that only started watching NASCAR after (and because of) Earnhardt’s death.

    It is sad to hear so many of my Southern friends so angry with the direction of NASCAR. I don’t know any better than what I’ve seen over the last 5 years because I never got to experience the good ole days everyone talks about it.

    Once I started watching races, I quickly got into it. You get sucked into the personalities of the drivers pretty easily because they are all good guys. The biggest turnoff to me is that there are too many nice guys who are too clean cut and too pretty boyish and too corporate. Whenever I see the old clips, it’s a bunch of ugly, nasty dudes who competed like a bunch of maniacs – but who were basically just good dudes off the track. The money and corporate sponsorship, even to a neophyte NASCAR fan like myself, seems to have sucked the heart and soul right out of the sport at times.

    I got into it because of my Southern friends were so into it. I used to get ticked off when they wanted to watch the race at Dega instead of the seventh round of the NFL draft, an NBA playoff game, or a Braves game. But I got sucked in because of the excitement my friends had for it. The ironic thing now is that I am actually more into it than those Southern friends are these days. They have the same frustrated feeling about the direction of the sport that you and Grinch have shared on here before.

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  170. 174 Voice of Raisins April 28, 2008 at 2:07 pm

    Barry Zito or Mike Hampton?

    Hamp would go if he could. Zito isn’t injured… He just sucks…

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  171. 175 Bob, journalist April 28, 2008 at 2:07 pm

    very tame by today’s standards” … I never saw the calendar … methinks we each have our own … standards, that is … mine have changed over the years but seem to be returning to those with which I began.

    Methinks too that most folks evaluate others in terms of their own standards … for how else could one so do … like jimmy smith, I like to choose those with whom I have a drink … Clemens is not one of those … and though it does appear that he is incredibly stupid, that is not the reason why.

    The Russians, don’t forget the Russians … Clemens pitched for Toronto too! Any connection between the Toronto Daily News and the NYDN?

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  172. 176 williamwallace April 28, 2008 at 2:10 pm

    My uncle Paladin broke a leg last year because he ran around his roof screaming Mayday! Mayday! Mayday! and then jumped from the roof. His parachute didn’t go off on time.

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  173. 177 morpheus45 April 28, 2008 at 2:11 pm

    I can’t believe it; I was about three pages into that blog, hit refresh and it went “Insider only.” Only the first three comments or so show up now. Man, do I hate ESPN.

    WW, you nailed it on the head…I quit at the same time you started for the reasons you named (and a couple of others).

    Later again.

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  174. 178 morpheus45 April 28, 2008 at 2:13 pm

    You really, REALLY would’ve liked NASCAR from about’63 to ’02.

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  175. 179 williamwallace April 28, 2008 at 2:13 pm

    Paladin and his buddy Woodstock in a dogfight:

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  176. 180 Voice of Raisins April 28, 2008 at 2:15 pm

    I can’t understand the use of the term “stock car” racing when there is nothing stock about the cars…

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  177. 181 Paladin April 28, 2008 at 2:15 pm

    My uncle Paladin broke a leg last year because he ran around his roof screaming Mayday! Mayday! Mayday! and then jumped from the roof. His parachute didn’t go off on time.

    That is the shortest post ww has made since DOB broke up with him.

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  178. 182 williamwallace April 28, 2008 at 2:17 pm

    Paladin, LOL.

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  179. 183 williamwallace April 28, 2008 at 2:18 pm

    What do you mean VOR? You can’t find a car that looks like that on the showroom floor?

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  180. 184 williamwallace April 28, 2008 at 2:18 pm

    The dumbest thing is the truck series …… they’re not even real trucks. Makes zero sense to me….

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  181. 185 Paladin April 28, 2008 at 2:19 pm

    You guys would have really liked “Stock Cars” when they were, and the back straightaway at Daytona was the beach.

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  182. 186 Voice of Raisins April 28, 2008 at 2:19 pm

    And I hate the “Car of Tomorrow”. I like cars of today. I liked the Charger against the Monte Carlo against the Grand Prix against the Thunderbird.

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  183. 187 williamwallace April 28, 2008 at 2:21 pm

    Smoltz not sounding good on 790 the Zone this morning:

    [audio src="http://790thezone.com/vdDynamic/AudioBits/1-AudioBit4930.mp3" /]

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  184. 188 Paladin April 28, 2008 at 2:22 pm

    Going in for my p’nut butter & jelly and nap. See you guys and gals, later.

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  185. 189 Voice of Raisins April 28, 2008 at 2:22 pm

    😆

    The ajc,com has the headlines “Clemens, singer had long ‘relationship'” and “It’s Prom Time!” under the same bullet.

    😆

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  186. 190 williamwallace April 28, 2008 at 2:26 pm

    I hate the cookie cutter tracks at Texas, California, Phoenix. Makes for awful racing that’s unwatchable. I don’t like the Atlanta track much either. Those cookie cutter tracks really seem to make for boring races of people going in circles and no action.

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  187. 191 williamwallace April 28, 2008 at 2:27 pm

    VOR, 790 has good interviews on their instant replay from this morning with Smoltz and Dimitroff:

    http://790thezone.com/multimedia/instant_replay.aspx

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  188. 192 Voice of Raisins April 28, 2008 at 2:38 pm

    I’m out, y’all… gotta run. Hopefully no Braves are injured on their off day.

    Later, taters!

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  189. 193 morpheus45 April 28, 2008 at 2:45 pm

    Just got contacted from a history publishing house that saw some stuff on my site they liked! They type of stuff they say they’re looking for is exactly what I’m halfway good at writing, and they want a book. SWEET! Now, I just have to write the book. That’s actually the easy part. 🙂

    WW, agreed about the cookie cutter tracks but Atlanta ain’t one of them. It’s become boring now because of the rules changes, but that high banking back when cars were really cars and racin’ was really racin’ made it one of the best tracks on the circuit. Go back (if you can) and find some footage there from the 70’s (back when it was the “Firecracker 400”. And your Uncle’s right; the tide going out or coming in during the Daytona race actually washed over the backstretch. Talk about varying track conditions!

    I’m really leaving now.

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  190. 194 Gil in Mechanicsville April 28, 2008 at 3:07 pm

    Great news Grinch.. How about posting a link to your site….

    My earliest real recollection of NASCAR begins with about 1960… The late Fireball Roberts and the wide track Pontiac. Then the ’63 Fords and the ’64 Chevy’s and Junior Johnson. I would like it better if the cars were more “stock” but let’s face reality, the new cars are a heck of a lot safer.

    WW… If you ever want to really enjoy everything racing has to offer and by that I mean a full throttle, in your face, smell the racing fuel go deaf kind of race, go to Richmond. Paul Sawyer was a genius, knew how to make the race exciting without making it too hard on the equipment. You can see the entire race from just about anywhere.

    Bristol is another great race to attend. Of course now it is a little less like roller derby but still a great race.

    Huge super speedways are like major league ballparks. The field is the same size no matter the venue but you can get a long ways away from the action because of the size of the facility.

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  191. 195 Voice of Raisins April 28, 2008 at 3:59 pm

    Ah, safety shmafety. That’s why they’re supposed to drive. When you pack ’em in a space suit, tie ’em down in an unbreakable cage and send ’em out in an unbreakable piece of machinery that doesn’t resemble a regular car, doesn’t run or handle like a regular car, it ain’t car racin’! Bleh! They take too darn many chances knowing they’ll be OK. I say send ’em out in real stock cars built out the @$$ and let ’em go at it!

    Just kidding… 😆 I know very little about NASCAR, and pay very little attention. I do not like the generic cars, though.

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  192. 196 Paladin April 28, 2008 at 4:13 pm

    My Brother is 77 and still runnin’ modified stocks at a dirt track near here. That is REAL racing. When the pack goes by and the crowd gets showered with dirt clods. My Brother is no longer any good, but he still enjoys it. Every season we ask the other drivers to vote whether they want him to run or not. Each time it’s. “Hell yes we want him to run. That way there’s at least one azz —- I can count on beatin'” 😛

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  193. 197 Paladin April 28, 2008 at 4:18 pm

    Boy, I’m really excited about the news that Grinch is going to ghost a children’s book for Laura Bush. 😆

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  194. 198 Paladin April 28, 2008 at 4:21 pm

    tHE doCtOR IS Out. cALl AgaIN.

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  195. 199 flbravesgirl April 28, 2008 at 4:50 pm

    Woohoo, Grinch!!! So when are you gonna share the link to these masterpieces with us?

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  196. 200 Bay Area Steve April 28, 2008 at 5:16 pm

    IhopeGrinchpoststhelinktohissite.com

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  197. 201 Gil in Mechanicsville April 28, 2008 at 5:17 pm

    I love the modifieds Mr. P. I like the late models too… Last of the almost stock cars.

    Doesn’t matter… If it will move, men will race it. Ever watch the lawn mowers race?

    If it moves, men will bet on the outcome… Come to think of it, if something can have and outcome, men will bet on it.

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  198. 202 Bay Area Steve April 28, 2008 at 5:19 pm

    I wonder if I’m the only person left without their own website.

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  199. 203 Gil in Mechanicsville April 28, 2008 at 5:19 pm

    What’s the over/under on Smoltz? 🙂

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  200. 204 Bay Area Steve April 28, 2008 at 5:20 pm

    I’m not so sure, Gil. Wanna bet?

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  201. 205 Voice of Raisins April 28, 2008 at 5:35 pm

    smoltzoverunder.com

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  202. 206 Gil in Mechanicsville April 28, 2008 at 5:42 pm

    Uh BAS… Got “Myspace”??

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  203. 207 Paladin April 28, 2008 at 5:49 pm

    I’m betting Smoltz will be back if he has to throw left handed.

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  204. 208 Bay Area Steve April 28, 2008 at 5:51 pm

    nope Gil, and don’t want it.

    ….and no cell phone

    Blasphemy, I know.

    So, what are we betting on at smoltzoverunder.com?

    when his arm is going to fall off?

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  205. 209 Voice of Raisins April 28, 2008 at 6:02 pm

    No, that would be at whenhisarmisgoingtofalloff.com…

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  206. 210 Bay Area Steve April 28, 2008 at 6:05 pm

    Makes sense, reasonable one.

    Wish I’d thought of that.

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  207. 211 Paladin April 28, 2008 at 6:06 pm

    After my crack about Smoltz throwing left handed I thought, “Hell, he’d be better than Ohman.” Then, I thought, “I wonder if he could be coaxed back into the bullpen as closer.” Hmmm. (Throwing righty, of course)

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  208. 212 Bob, journalist April 28, 2008 at 6:39 pm

    I’ll take the under … his overhand stuff wasn’t looking too good last time out.

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  209. 213 Falcon One April 28, 2008 at 6:44 pm

    Test 1, 2, 3, 4

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  210. 214 Falcon One April 28, 2008 at 6:45 pm

    Guess who has changed user name and avatar? If you can’t guess, you are and idiot.

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  211. 215 Carolina Lady April 28, 2008 at 7:12 pm

    Excellent, Pala -uh, Falcon One!
    What was your call sign?

    GRINCH! Hearty congratulations!!!

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  212. 216 Falcon One April 28, 2008 at 7:58 pm

    Dalai Moma; I was Paladin at times; Falcon one at others. I have a proper call on the use of both. And my REAL congrats to Grinch, as well. That’s great!

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  213. 217 Voice of Raisins April 28, 2008 at 8:09 pm

    Howdy Falcon One!

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  214. 218 Bob, journalist April 28, 2008 at 8:10 pm

    Apologies with a reddened face to Gill, Chris, all … for my earlier faux pas … and of course to the late, great Tommy Manville who was happily married 13 times!

    When I told Carol of Gil’s joke comment, she reread my post and asked me who Tommy Mansfield was … “did I say that? … It’s Manville!”

    No wonder Chris thought I was losing it!

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  215. 219 Voice of Raisins April 28, 2008 at 8:13 pm

    Associated Press

    Published on: 04/28/08

    RICHMOND, Va. — Authorities say more than 200 people have been injured as severe storms cut through central and southeastern Virginia.

    Gil: You OK???

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  216. 220 BeRiGaN 5 tHe ReTuRn April 28, 2008 at 8:25 pm

    Paladin, because of my extreme lack of sleep this morning, forgot to wish you a Happy Birthday! Happy Birthday! 🙂

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  217. 221 BeRiGaN 5 tHe ReTuRn April 28, 2008 at 8:27 pm

    And I hope and pray Gil is aok!!! Was he going to a game today??? Hopefully it was rained out early…

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  218. 223 Voice of Raisins April 28, 2008 at 8:42 pm

    B-dude: Is that his idea of a “stimulus” package? 😀

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  219. 224 Falcon One April 28, 2008 at 8:43 pm

    Playboy, this is Falcon One airborne with flight of 4. Full loads of sparklers and boomers. You call. We haul.

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  220. 225 Voice of Raisins April 28, 2008 at 8:45 pm

    Playboy, this is Falcon One airborne with flight of 4. Full loads of sparklers and boomers. You call. We haul.

    Isn’t that essentially what that mayor in Chile said? 😀

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  221. 226 morpheus45 April 28, 2008 at 8:46 pm

    Howdy, all! Don’t congratulate me yet; I haven’t even formally talked to them. But the fact that the publisher found my little rinky-dink corner of the internet and thought enough of what he saw to write me a letter is indeed a positive sign in my book (pardon the pun). We shall see; I’ll keep y’all posted (pardon the pun again).

    I’m not gonna post a link here to the site for several reasons, but e-mail me and I’ll tell it to you (if I trust you). 🙂 Voton1066@yahoo.com.

    Lots of people hatin’ on the Falcons today on sports talk radio; Atlanta fans are as fickle as they come. They refuse to look at the big picture or trust anyone to do a good job (not that the franchise has much of a history that way…but still).

    Anyhoo, gotta go see if the Hawks can keep up the pace; the Braves situation is too depressing to even think about right now.

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  222. 227 Falcon One April 28, 2008 at 8:47 pm

    No, Raisins. It isn’t.

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  223. 228 BeRiGaN 5 tHe ReTuRn April 28, 2008 at 8:49 pm

    Voice of Raisins Says:
    April 28, 2008 at 8:42 pm

    B-dude: Is that his idea of a “stimulus” package? 😀

    VOR, VOR,VOR…. :LOL:

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  224. 229 Falcon One April 28, 2008 at 8:51 pm

    Thanks for the birthday wish, Bearman. Hope you are on the mend.

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  225. 230 Falcon One April 28, 2008 at 8:57 pm

    Where is SG? Doing his thing in the Garden of Good and Evil? Naughty.

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  226. 231 Falcon One April 28, 2008 at 9:06 pm

    I’m going to bed. My “on station” call was to show CL where my Falcon One call sign came from. She will understand it. If the rest of you don’t, well it won’t be the first time.

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  227. 232 Carolina Lady April 28, 2008 at 9:12 pm

    Gotcha 5-by, Falcon. Light ’em up!
    😆

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  228. 233 Bronchitis BeRiGaN April 28, 2008 at 9:20 pm

    Falcon One, my new handle tells it all! 😉

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  229. 234 Carolina Lady April 28, 2008 at 9:28 pm

    Berigan, I am so sorry you’re so sick! You gotta get well QUICK!!! Get right on that, huh??
    😀

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  230. 235 flbravesgirl April 28, 2008 at 10:01 pm

    Still bad, Berigan? Poor baby. 😦

    I see VOR upgraded the avatar.

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  231. 236 Gil in Mechanicsville April 28, 2008 at 10:37 pm

    Well, dodged that bullet by a good bit today. Suffolk really got hammered though.

    When Josie and I first moved to Mechanicsville, we had a tornado pass pretty much directly over us. I was awake in the early morning when it came thru and I saw the rain, the darkness and heard the classic “train roar” as it went overhead. It tore up a good bit of Chester, bounced hit the area of Richmond by the race way then bounce again and hit Studley. I figured the Lord still had things for me to do so he guided that storm past us.

    I was involved with EMS for 42 years before I retired two years ago. I can tell you that working a disaster like a tornado is really hard work. One reason I admire firefighters out west fighting forest fires. Low pay and hard work and on your best days, you only save the chimneys.

    Falcon One…. Hummm… My dad owned a Falcon. That awful metallic green with a three speed on the column and a 95hp in line six. It got about 30 miles to the gallon though, just ahead of it’s time I guess… 🙂

    Soar high Falcon One… On second thought, maybe best to stay sober during the flight…

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  232. 237 flbravesgirl April 28, 2008 at 10:45 pm

    Glad you’re OK, Gil. I’ve seen one tornado up close & that was more than enough times for me. We were headed to Miami to watch the Braves & somewhere down amongst the sugarcane fields we got caught in a storm. The tornado parallelled the road for several minutes. I was very close to having to bail out of the car & jump into a ditch probably filled with snakes & some gators.

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  233. 238 Savannah Guy April 28, 2008 at 10:48 pm

    thought enough of what he saw to write me a letter is indeed a positive sign in my book (pardon the pun). We shall see; I’ll keep y’all posted (pardon the pun again).

    Inappropriate or frequent puns are a sign of insanity. :mrgreen:

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  234. 239 Savannah Guy April 28, 2008 at 10:49 pm

    Or at least they were once a pun a time. 😆

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  235. 240 Savannah Guy April 28, 2008 at 10:53 pm

    A new moniker for Paladin to match the avatar?

    How about Flyboy? Nahh… been done, done that. Wing Man? Nahh. Raptor? Nope.

    Dirty Bird… Yes. That fits. 🙂

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  236. 241 Savannah Guy April 28, 2008 at 10:55 pm

    justaquickdropintosayhelloandgoodbyeiamsleepysogoodnightallyallandsuch.com

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  237. 242 flbravesgirl April 28, 2008 at 10:56 pm

    Aren’t all great writers insane?

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  238. 243 Gil in Mechanicsville April 28, 2008 at 11:02 pm

    mAYbE..

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  239. 244 flbravesgirl April 28, 2008 at 11:03 pm

    Or at least a little eccentric.

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  240. 245 Gil in Mechanicsville April 28, 2008 at 11:04 pm

    I recognize that being in a car during a tornado is not safe but somehow the thought of jumping in a drainage ditch during a driving rain sounds a little bit like leaning into a left hook…

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  241. 246 Gil in Mechanicsville April 28, 2008 at 11:08 pm

    Okay, I think Berigan has given me his cold, catch up with you folks in the morning… Time to take the medicine…..

    And 008… Did you really get to fly “Electric Jets” ?

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  242. 247 flbravesgirl April 28, 2008 at 11:09 pm

    It actually wasn’t raining that much. I’m just grateful it didn’t come to that.

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  243. 248 ssiscribe April 28, 2008 at 11:20 pm

    WOW! I don’t know what’s crazier, the fact the Hawks have tied their playoff series — guaranteeing a Game 6 in Atlanta Friday night — or the fact I just bought two tickets for the aforementioned Game 6.

    Hawks Win! I’m off to bed.

    The Scribe abides.

    –30–

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  244. 249 Bronchitis BeRiGaN April 28, 2008 at 11:32 pm

    Gil, sorry about that! Very contagious it appears! Everyone else, hold your breath while reading my posts….man, have I ever played the straight man for Paladin! 😆

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  245. 250 Bronchitis BeRiGaN April 28, 2008 at 11:34 pm

    Scribe, I am no basketball fan, but I do know more than one soul on this board has said the coach is the dumbest coach around….so the team must be really talented to overcome this fact! 😛

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  246. 251 morpheus45 April 29, 2008 at 1:11 am

    B-gen, straight talent is what it’s all about. I’ll get back to it in a minute.

    SG, insanity is not necc. the sign of a good writer, but most good writers are insane.

    Gil, glad you’re ok, my friend.

    Now, hawks…

    %$#%-in A! Hell, yeah; ^%$#er^%$#er, we showed those &^%$er%$#%ers what time it was…no Coach, no Center, it didn’t matter. Pure athleticism and fire and a rockin’ home crowd won it out. WE WILL DEFEAT BILLY AND WOODY IN THIS TOWN. GO HAWKS.

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  247. 252 morpheus45 April 29, 2008 at 1:13 am

    Scribe, that second ticket better be for me…

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  248. 253 Gil in Mechanicsville April 29, 2008 at 4:22 am

    Man, I hate it when I can’t sleep…

    I’m glad for you sscribe…. I’m not too much of a NBA basketball fan either but I’m always happy to see parity… 🙂

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  249. 254 Falcon One April 29, 2008 at 8:16 am

    Gil’ Your Dad’s Falcon was badly underpowered, and “mint green”? Yech. Mine had 9,300 lbf of thrust and had a camouflaged paint scheme. ‘Course it was leased but they were responsible for all the maintenance, upkeep and mileage.

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  250. 255 Falcon One April 29, 2008 at 8:24 am

    Playboy, this is Falcon heading home. All chicks accounted for and all ordinance expended. Secondary fires and explosions indicate that Charlie was home. You know how we hate to leave our calling cards when nobody is there. We will be touching down at homeplate in about 5 so tell ’em to whip up some steak, eggs and martinis. Catch you later. Falcon out!

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  251. 256 Falcon One April 29, 2008 at 8:37 am

    Test. 5 – 4 -3 – 2 – 1. Out.

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  252. 257 Falcon One April 29, 2008 at 9:11 am

    Trying to get a new avatar to come up.

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  253. 258 Falcon One April 29, 2008 at 9:12 am

    There we go.

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  254. 259 Falcon One April 29, 2008 at 9:14 am

    Morning bloganation. Even Raisins isn’t up.

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  255. 260 Voice of Raisins April 29, 2008 at 9:40 am

    Palcon: I am here, but I am snowed under with work. I am not complaining, though. It really is a good thing, especially in my industry where the housing market has hurt alot of businesses. I’ll be kinda in and out…

    Right now, I’m out… 😦

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  256. 261 Carolina Lady April 29, 2008 at 9:48 am

    Good morning, Braves & Stuff!

    One gorgeous morning here in southeastern NC! Hoping I can squeeze in some time in the yard this morning! Cool, great breeze = no bugs! 😆

    What’s on the baseball news?

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  257. 262 Falcon One April 29, 2008 at 9:59 am

    It’s a great day here, as well. Cool, but sunny. And I feel great, too. 364 days to my next birthday. 😛

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  258. 263 Hillbilly April 29, 2008 at 10:04 am

    Grinch and Scribe,

    I’m proud to see former Razorback Joe Johnson making a splash in the playoffs. He’s one of 3 Hogs making a contribution (Jannero Pargo-New Orleans and Ronnie Brewer-Utah.) I’m not an NBA fan by any means, so I don’t want to sound like the bandwagonners I despise, by saying “Go Hawks.” However it is nice to see Johnson leaving his mark against the team that drafted and gave up on him.

    Grinch, you have mail.

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  259. 264 Falcon One April 29, 2008 at 10:04 am

    Baseball news? Our little country singer and crackhead tells the NY Post that she can not “refute” their story. I can’t wait to hear Rocket’s refuteanism of that.

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  260. 265 Hillbilly April 29, 2008 at 10:08 am

    Falcon,

    I wouldn’t recommend the use of the word “country” while describing her music. Country just ain’t country no more. 😦

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  261. 266 Carolina Lady April 29, 2008 at 10:08 am

    Let’s see:
    Smoltzie is having his shoulder “checked” this morning.
    Glavine expects to return Wednesday(?) – one day soon.
    Hampton expects to be back shortly.
    Mike Lieberthal is retiring June 1.
    Rocket did what?
    Zito is going to the bullpen.
    Musina ties Hubbell on career wins list.
    Braves are 12-13, 3 games out.

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  262. 267 Carolina Lady April 29, 2008 at 10:09 am

    Hey, Hillbilly!! Hope you’re great! Isn’t your newest Hillbilly expected to arrive soon? 🙂

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  263. 268 Hillbilly April 29, 2008 at 10:09 am

    Regardless though, the storyline would make a hell of a country song.

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  264. 269 Carolina Lady April 29, 2008 at 10:11 am

    What on earth is that avatar, HB? Looks like a snail. ??? 😆

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  265. 270 Hillbilly April 29, 2008 at 10:14 am

    CL, about a month away. Plus I’ll be moving into a new house about that time, so I may be hard to reach in a few weeks.

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  266. 271 Hillbilly April 29, 2008 at 10:18 am

    CL, It’s a strutting longbeard, broadside view. He’s not strutting anymore, though. 😀

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  267. 272 Falcon One April 29, 2008 at 10:18 am

    CL; A snail or a baby elephant. 😛

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  268. 273 Hillbilly April 29, 2008 at 10:19 am

    ……He’s marinating.

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  269. 274 Skyhawk April 29, 2008 at 10:29 am

    My original avatar, in this series, was supposed to be an Atlanta Falcon. Due to some sidetracks, it confused some people. My present moniker and avatar are the A4C Skyhawk which is one of the a/c the USMC actually paid me to fly. It was a blast and a privilege I will never forget!

    Now, I’m sure that Gil or Berigan had a Buick Skyhawk and we’ll have to hear about it, but such is life. 😛

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  270. 275 Voice of Raisins April 29, 2008 at 10:41 am

    I watched the Atlanta Hawks skying high last night. Does that count?

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  271. 276 Skyhawk April 29, 2008 at 10:50 am

    Absolutely! I’m always happy to be topical.

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  272. 277 Carolina Lady April 29, 2008 at 10:52 am

    Great news on your new one and your new home, Hillbilly!! Keep us posted!! We’ll look forward to having you back regularly. 😀

    A turkey? OK. 😆 All I could see was the swirl that looked like a snail’s shell! 😆 😆

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  273. 278 Carolina Lady April 29, 2008 at 11:02 am

    http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,353023,00.html

    Gray’s hurricane funding may be pulled because he doesn’t agree with the current “Global warming” theories being bandied about by the elites. Disagree with them and they silence you. Now where has that been done before??? hmmmm….

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  274. 279 Gil in Mechanicsville April 29, 2008 at 11:02 am

    Nope 008… No Buick Skyhawk for me… I like the avatar though..

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  275. 280 Skyhawk 008 April 29, 2008 at 11:03 am

    OK, I think I have this thing so that everyone has something to call me without getting obscene. Speaking of which: Have you seen the pictures of Miley Cyrus? Billy Ray ought to have his butt kicked! And how long before she gets in some “relationship” with an older “man”?

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  276. 281 Gil in Mechanicsville April 29, 2008 at 11:15 am

    I don’t know who gave permission for Miley to be photographed that way but you noticed that the one picture that is said to be most embarrassing is the one plastered all over the internet. To have any type of sexually suggestive photo (and I don’t know what else you could possible call it) taken of a 15 year old is child pornography in my opinion. If Billy Ray is responsible, then you are right 008…. It is totally irresponsible.

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  277. 282 flbravesgirl April 29, 2008 at 11:17 am

    Good morning y’all.

    If Dr. Gray wants funding he should move to an area actually in danger from hurricanes. Never understood why the heck he was in Colorado.

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  278. 283 Carolina Lady April 29, 2008 at 11:20 am

    Gray teaches at CSU. The article explains more fully.

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  279. 284 Gil in Mechanicsville April 29, 2008 at 11:21 am

    Call me a cynic but I agree that most of this global warming (climate change) is a bunch of hooey. Now, if they want to talk about how bad exhaust of all types are for people’s health. Okay but then you would have to ban tobacco too.

    I’m thinking with all the reduction in airline flights, we could stand a few million more cars on the road.

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  280. 285 Gil in Mechanicsville April 29, 2008 at 11:23 am

    FBG… Because the chair was filled at Miami…. 🙂

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  281. 286 Skyhawk 008 April 29, 2008 at 11:25 am

    Fbg; You want side-of-the-volcano-location for your forecasts, huh? Not a bad idea but Gray is a little long in tooth for that. Besides, he has put an assistant in charge of the operation now. He is just a “senior advisor” and fund raiser.

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  282. 287 flbravesgirl April 29, 2008 at 11:30 am

    Oh, I know all that. Just never understood why the “national expert” wasn’t closer to the region in question. And he hasn’t been too accurate in recent years either.

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  283. 288 Skyhawk 008 April 29, 2008 at 11:34 am

    With all due respect, Great grand-friend, weather guessing is a little harder and more problematic than making a delicious red cake.

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  284. 289 flbravesgirl April 29, 2008 at 11:39 am

    Then he should improve his guessing if he wants the money. I’m done with this subject. Too darned tired to argue with y’all.

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  285. 290 Skyhawk 008 April 29, 2008 at 11:44 am

    “Dolphin dies after mid-air collision with another dolphin during “stunt” at Sea World attraction”.

    Flying is inherently dangerous, apparently even for dolphins.

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  286. 291 Skyhawk 008 April 29, 2008 at 11:46 am

    Someone got up on the wrong side of the bed, this morning. Maybe they should get back in the right side and take a nap. 🙄

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  287. 292 Skyhawk 008 April 29, 2008 at 11:57 am

    Baseball:

    Airplanes may kill you but they ain’t likely to hurt you.

    — ‘Satchel’ (Leroy Robert) Paige, baseball player, circa 1959

    Hmmm.

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  288. 293 Skyhawk 008 April 29, 2008 at 12:01 pm

    Later.

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  289. 294 Voice of Raisins April 29, 2008 at 12:50 pm

    So Glav has been activated to make tonight’s start… Who goes down to make room? I can’t find the transaction reported anywhere yet. My guess is Lillibridge, since Chipper, and probably Yunel too, should be back tonight.

    Now, You all know I am the eternal optimist. I’m not just a “glass half full” kinda guy, I am a “glass 1/4 full” kinda guy. That being said, I am really nervous about Smoltz’ exam today. I don’t know if anyone else has considered it this way, but it is entirely possible that we have seen his last game. 😯 Smoltz, who has had 4 major surgeries and subsequent rehabs, has publicly stated that he won’t have another major surgery. If this is rotator cuff, we’re talking surgery to fix, or rest and hope. I, for one, am really praying that the doc finds no structural issues… 😐

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  290. 295 Carolina Lady April 29, 2008 at 1:07 pm

    Raisins, I have those same concerns regarding Smoltz. His demeanor after the game was apparently different than had ever been seen before – and that just may have been his last game. Oh, I hope not!!!!! He’s sure given it his all! Hope the report will be forthcoming quickly!

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  291. 296 flbravesgirl April 29, 2008 at 1:08 pm

    Y’all will have to post if Joe & Boog give any update on Smoltz. ExtraInnings usually shows the home announcers so I’ll be stuck with the Nationals broadcast tonight.

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  292. 297 Voice of Raisins April 29, 2008 at 1:21 pm

    His shoulder hasn’t been right all year. Let’s be honest, that was entirely the reason for his “special” spring workouts this year. He is as gutty as they come. If he can go out and grit through the pain, he will; he has. Heck, he’s been downright dominant for 5-6 innings at times this season, even with the ever-present problem.

    Smoltz is my favorite all-time Brave. To me, he epitomizes everything (on the field, Grinch) that you want a player to be. Team over self, work through the pain, always prepared, give 100% every pitch and every inning, etc. He is a HOF’er, no question. I sure would love to see him get one more shot at the post-season.

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  293. 298 flbravesgirl April 29, 2008 at 1:33 pm

    He’s always been one of my favorites too, VOR. I know some fans occasionally question the Braves’ “fire” or “heart”. Never any question with Smoltz. The fire’s always been there. And he has pitched through a lot of pain over the years.

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  294. 299 Carolina Lady April 29, 2008 at 1:35 pm

    Those tendons, ligaments and muscles are going to take only so much. I sure hope it hasn’t reached that point.

    You’re right, Raisins. If there was any way possible to “gut it out”, he would.

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  295. 300 Skyhawk 008 April 29, 2008 at 1:50 pm

    If he can, will he go to the pen and help the team?

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  296. 301 Gil in Mechanicsville April 29, 2008 at 1:52 pm

    On Smoltz…. Sometimes the body won’t do what the brain wills it to do… It is one thing to play through pain, something else playing through injury.

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  297. 302 Voice of Raisins April 29, 2008 at 1:58 pm

    I strolled across the street to see if there was any news on the exam. Talk about doom and gloom! Is armageddon upon us? 🙄

    Thank the good Lord for B&S, sane people and the ability to reason.

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  298. 303 flbravesgirl April 29, 2008 at 2:05 pm

    I gave up reading “over there”, VOR. Too much pessimism & far too much nastiness. It’s a shame because there are still some people there who I like & respect their opinions. I’m a lot more comfortable here with my friends.

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  299. 304 Hillbilly April 29, 2008 at 2:10 pm

    FBG, I’ve been getting both home and away feeds on MLB Extra Innings. Is it because I’m out of area?

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  300. 305 Voice of Raisins April 29, 2008 at 2:10 pm

    Yes, FBG, but the simple fact that O’Brien and Rogers have access to the clubhouse still makes it a valuable source of early information. Unfortunately, you have to wade through the muck to get to the substance.

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  301. 306 flbravesgirl April 29, 2008 at 2:15 pm

    I’m out of area too, Hillbilly. So far this year I’ve found that they show the home team’s broadcast except for Sun. in New York we did get the Braves feed.

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  302. 307 flbravesgirl April 29, 2008 at 2:16 pm

    I still read the articles & leads, VOR. I just don’t bother with all the comments.

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  303. 308 Hillbilly April 29, 2008 at 2:20 pm

    FBG, That’s strange. I’ve watched the Braves feed for every game this year. In fact, I’ve gotten both feeds from every other game in the league except Chicago games that are also being shown on WGN.

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  304. 309 flbravesgirl April 29, 2008 at 2:23 pm

    One of things I’m looking forward to about moving is that I won’t need ExtraInnings anymore. We’ll get FSN & Sportsouth & Braves radio. We should get Peachtree too since the “local” channels are the Atlanta stations on satellite. It will be nice to get the pre- & post-game coverage that ExtraInnings chops off.

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  305. 310 flbravesgirl April 29, 2008 at 2:25 pm

    Hillbilly, I’m jealous. We only get one feed per game on Brighthouse.

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  306. 311 Voice of Raisins April 29, 2008 at 2:28 pm

    Got errands and rehearsal.

    Gone until tomorrow…

    Later, taters!!!

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  307. 312 Bob, journalist April 29, 2008 at 5:10 pm

    Let’s be honest, that was entirely the reason for his ‘special’ spring workouts this year” … it seemed to be the most obvious answer to the “unasked” question … but the real question, methinks, is why they weren’t honest … not, with us or the media … that’s certainly understandable … but with themselves?

    Forewarned is forearmed … or at least it should be … and if the delay in facing the problem has resulted in its exacerbation and/or deterioration beyond effective restoration … accountability should be effected.

    The Braves hope that a few weeks of rest will bring Smoltz relief in his shoulder” … I hope so too but, a few weeks is longer than 15 days and “bringing relief” somehow seems so hapless and inadequate.

    It’s remindful of Mike Gonzalez, and oh so many others, methinks.

    Hopefully, Glavine and Hampton can be good numbers 3 and 4 for the rest of the season … though Mike could still be number one or two, methinks … were he to get a new body … I didn’t say that … it’s probably now more above the neck than below, given his history.

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  308. 313 Skyhawk 008 April 29, 2008 at 5:16 pm

    The news is out on Smoltz and it sounds too much like Moylan. “Severely inflamed tendon and rotator cuff.” Let’s let it “rest” for 2 weeks and reevaluate. That ain’t good.

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  309. 314 Skyhawk 008 April 29, 2008 at 5:21 pm

    The key to the Braves season is Hampton. If he can’t come in a give us some useful and meaningful innings we are even worse off than last season.

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  310. 315 Gil in Mechanicsville April 29, 2008 at 5:33 pm

    Sounds like the perfect candidate for a legal steroid injection. It is what the stuff was designed for in the first place. I found however, that if they don’t put it in exactly the place that hurts, it does little good. OMG does it ever hurt… but relief is pronounced.

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  311. 316 Skyhawk 008 April 29, 2008 at 5:43 pm

    Yeah Gil; I have had that “pleasure”. But, I was hurtin’ so that I would have let them stick me with an ice pick if it would make it quit hurting.

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  312. 317 Bronchitis BeRiGaN April 29, 2008 at 5:57 pm

    Good….afternoon(Evening starts at 6 pm, right??? 😉 )

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  313. 318 Bronchitis BeRiGaN April 29, 2008 at 6:05 pm

    Well, after doing a lot of catch-up with the blog(Being sick, and having to share a computer with a 71 year old-my Dad’s best friend, and a 76 year old-Pa, doesn’t leave much time to read all the stuff I want to read)

    Then, I was going to post my feelings on Smoltz being injured(Cuz, everyone really cares what I have to say on the subject 🙄 ) then Mozilla crashed….seems to happen a lot more than it used to….so, when it came back up, went to see what was being said by the ex…

    My feeling on Smoltz going on DL….ARRRGH!!!!! 😦

    Glad they don’t seem to be talking tears or anything….but I guess they might show up with the swelling down in a few weeks.

    A severely inflamed biceps tendon…I wonder if this could be the reason for the lack of fastballs in the last several starts??? I couldn’t understand all the splitters and sliders, it would seem they would put more strain on a sore shoulder….I just hope everyone is smart on this, and he isn’t trying to pitch in 10 days or some stupid ___ since it will be feeling better

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  314. 319 Bronchitis BeRiGaN April 29, 2008 at 6:13 pm

    Skyhawk 008 Says:
    April 29, 2008 at 11:46 am

    Someone got up on the wrong side of the bed, this morning. Maybe they should get back in the right side and take a nap.

    Did it help P???? 😛

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  315. 320 Skyhawk 008 April 29, 2008 at 6:17 pm

    FALLBROOK, Calif. (AP) – Dick Rossi, a Flying Tigers pilot who gained acclaim for downing six Japanese Zeros during the early days of World War II, has died of pneumonia. He was 92.

    Rossi, who earned two presidential citations for his combat prowess, died April 17 at his home in Fallbrook, north of San Diego, his wife said.

    In November 1941, Rossi joined a secret volunteer group of pilots who would travel to China and defend it against the Japanese. Officially known as the American Volunteer Group, the Chinese referred to the pilots as the Flying Tigers for their aerial combat skills.

    In December 1941, Rossi and his squadron first engaged the Zeros over Kunming, China, and shot down three of the planes. During their months of combat, the Flying Tigers shot down 296 Japanese planes.

    In July 1942, seven months after the United States entered the war, the group was disbanded.

    Rossi spent the rest of the war years working as a pilot for the China National Aviation Corp., delivering supplies from India to China. He made 735 trips over the Himalayas.

    Rest well Comrade-in-Arms Rossi. You are not just an ace and a hero, you are a legend.

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  316. 321 Skyhawk 008 April 29, 2008 at 6:24 pm

    My advice to you Berigan, is if you only have one thermometer and you started out taking your temp rectally, don’t change.

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  317. 322 Bronchitis BeRiGaN April 29, 2008 at 6:26 pm

    Clearly an amazing man!!! To survive all that, and live to the ripe old age of 92????
    Rest in Peace….

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  318. 323 Skyhawk 008 April 29, 2008 at 6:29 pm

    I’m going in to eat. Hold the fort.

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  319. 325 Skyhawk 008 April 29, 2008 at 7:50 pm

    I’m sorry CL, I don’t read Terence Moore. He may have been lucid at some point but I didn’t, or won’t see it.

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  320. 326 Skyhawk 008 April 29, 2008 at 7:59 pm

    Tex needs a seeing-eye dog if he can’t see that is a strike!

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  321. 327 Savannah Guy April 29, 2008 at 8:19 pm

    Found a quote I thought a certain jet fighter might like:

    “To fly, we have to have resistance.”

    Maya Lin, American architect

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  322. 328 Savannah Guy April 29, 2008 at 8:21 pm

    Injuries, injuries and more injuries. Mercy.

    What next… Berigan visits the clubhouse and the whole team comes down with flu?

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  323. 329 Savannah Guy April 29, 2008 at 8:23 pm

    Hillbilly, that’s a fine ya got there son. Fine bird. Size?

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  324. 331 Skyhawk 008 April 29, 2008 at 8:33 pm

    Here is one my friend from Savannah might like:

    What is the cause of most aviation accidents:
    Usually it is because someone does too much too soon, followed very quickly by too little too late.

    — Steve Wilson, NTSB investigator, Oshkosh, WI , August, 1996

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  325. 332 Savannah Guy April 29, 2008 at 8:35 pm

    Yepper… like it. I’ll keep that one.

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  326. 333 Savannah Guy April 29, 2008 at 8:38 pm

    Chipper remains studly. Can say?

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  327. 334 chrisklob April 29, 2008 at 8:44 pm

    SG, you’re right. He continues to be “the man”. Or should I say, “The MAN”!

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  328. 335 Savannah Guy April 29, 2008 at 8:47 pm

    Gray’s hurricane funding may be pulled because he doesn’t agree with the current “Global warming” theories being bandied about by the elites.

    Where has that been done before?

    Exactly and right on. You got that right sister. Back to back HR’s by Carolina Lady in the same inning.

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  329. 336 Savannah Guy April 29, 2008 at 8:51 pm

    Hey Klobber. I though I’d run everybody off. I even brushed my teeth today and used deodorant… and it’s not even Saturday.

    If Chipper stays healthy and gets enough AB’s he’ll be a contender for batting champ the way he’s going.

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  330. 337 Skyhawk 008 April 29, 2008 at 8:51 pm

    I’m going to bed, but before I do I am going to get myself in trouble. Too many people on this blog (My best friends, Grinch, ww and SG included) do not keep up with what is being said. And don’t give me this busy crap because I am, too. It hurts me that they are my friends and, at times, are so out of the loop. I at least “look” at everything that is posted, even if I don’t read it all. Hang in there guys. You are all too smart and informative to look silly when you don’t know what has been said.

    OK, have at me while I sleep. I’ll get the same opportunity. 😛

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  331. 338 Savannah Guy April 29, 2008 at 8:56 pm

    What did I miss? Hell, I even know what you had for dinner last night.

    Chianti and some nice fava beans.

    Right?

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  332. 339 Savannah Guy April 29, 2008 at 8:59 pm

    Keep that up and I’m gonna drop a dime on you and call nursy Ratched. She won’t be very happy to hear you’ve been buying Hannah Montana CD’s.

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  333. 340 Savannah Guy April 29, 2008 at 9:05 pm

    That was a wimpy attempt by Diaz to “run over” Estrada. He already had Johnny faked out and hunched up… he should’ve slid at the last minute. Either that or not “pulled” his punch and collide.

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  334. 341 williamwallace April 29, 2008 at 9:24 pm

    Rockety Rocket sat on a wall

    Rockety Rocket had a great fall

    All the Rocket’s lawyers and all the Rocket’s p.r. men

    Couldn’t put his legacy back together again

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  335. 342 chrisklob April 29, 2008 at 9:28 pm

    WW, that sounds like lyrics to a country song. Maybe performed by Mindy McCready.

    What a shame. I’d be willing to bet that there are plenty more skeletons in his closet just like her. I wonder what his wife thinks about these latest developments.

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  336. 343 Savannah Guy April 29, 2008 at 9:32 pm

    He started dating his wife when they were 12.

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  337. 344 Bronchitis BeRiGaN April 29, 2008 at 9:37 pm

    Sigh…..No joke, turned game on to see 2-2 in 7th….then in mere minutes, 6-2. Chipper looks hurt. Heard we were 1st and 3rd no outs, and got no runs out of it. Where have we heard that one before??? 🙄

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  338. 345 Savannah Guy April 29, 2008 at 9:39 pm

    According to Grinch, Mindy was McCready at 15. Grinch was probably ready at 10.

    Still… I haven’t read all the gossip. Are we absolutely SURE that Clemens did what he’s accused of? Sure, without a doubt and ready to hang him because he “allegedly” did steroids and was accused of statutory rape with a minor? Did this come from Henry Waxman’s smear machine by any chance?

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  339. 346 williamwallace April 29, 2008 at 9:42 pm

    I think Mindy has a new book and a new record to sell

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  340. 347 Savannah Guy April 29, 2008 at 9:43 pm

    According to Clemens, “I’m not the man they think I am at home”.

    Mars ain’t the kind of place you raise your kids. Neither is Boston or New York.

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  341. 348 chrisklob April 29, 2008 at 9:43 pm

    Berigan, I was thinking that Chipper looked ticked off.

    SG, McCready’s response was that she couldn’t refute anything that had been said. From what I’ve hear/read, the physical aspect of their relationship did not start until sometime later, not when she was fifteen.

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  342. 349 williamwallace April 29, 2008 at 9:44 pm

    For her part, Mcready’s mother doesn’t believe the relationship with Clemens began when her daughter was a minor. “I don’t believe that she was 15. She was driving when she met him,” her mother said.

    LOL!

    What a great mother.

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  343. 350 chrisklob April 29, 2008 at 9:47 pm

    Smoltz is now saying that he would be willing to be the closer after his stint on the DL.

    http://www.ajc.com/sports/content/sports/braves/stories/2008/04/29/smoltz_0430.html

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  344. 351 williamwallace April 29, 2008 at 9:49 pm

    Hey mom, I’d like you to meet this married guy I’m having an affair with. Mind cooking him some breakfast?

    Sure thing, honey. Rocket, what would you like for breakfast?

    Can you say white trash?

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  345. 352 Savannah Guy April 29, 2008 at 9:58 pm

    Telephone conversation:

    Mrs. McCready: Now Mindy, you have to deny deny deny.It jes ain’t raht an all.

    Mindy: I know momma. He ain’t bad or nuthin’ like’at.

    Mrs. McCready: You tell that boy ta call me up.

    Mindy: OK momma.

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  346. 353 Savannah Guy April 29, 2008 at 10:03 pm

    Later:

    Roger: Well howdy Miz McCready. How y’all?

    Mrs. McCready: A little short on cash Roger dodger.

    Roger: How much?

    Mrs. McCready: ten… large.

    Roger: Done. Nice doing biz… uh, talkin’ to ya mizz McGreedy.

    Mrs. McCready: One more thing Rogggee. Know where I can get summa that HGH stuff? My joints are’a achin’ and I need a little, you know… pick me up.

    Roger: I know a guy… he’ll be in touch. Is that all?

    Mrs. McCready: The check…

    Roger: It’s on the way. Cash… no check. No paper trail.

    Mrs. McCready: Such a nice young man.

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  347. 354 Bronchitis BeRiGaN April 29, 2008 at 10:04 pm

    From Chris’ link above….
    First, he has to heal. He has been ordered to go 5-7 days without picking up a ball.

    Wow. A whole 5-7 days??? 🙄
    And I don’t get him going back to closer. He was right all along in that we couldn’t go anywhere in the playoffs because we didn’t have power arms. Glavine, Jurrjens, Hudson(If he is healthy) would equal 3 and out IMHO.
    If Smoltz can stay healthy, he still has the best stuff in our starting rotation. Besides, Bobby Cox would overuse him just like he did the last time.

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  348. 355 williamwallace April 29, 2008 at 10:06 pm

    Remember that bizarre phone call when Clemens kept calling McNamee “Mac this and Mac that”?

    Did he also call McCready Mac?

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  349. 356 Savannah Guy April 29, 2008 at 10:07 pm

    Later:

    Roger: So, the deal was done and yer momma’s ok.

    Mindy: Good. That settles that then.

    Roger: Not so fast. There’s the little matter of my 15% of CD sales.

    Mindy: What if we just meet next week and discuss the details?

    Roger: That’s more like it.

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  350. 357 Savannah Guy April 29, 2008 at 10:09 pm

    Clemens kept calling McNamee “Mac this and Mac that

    No, I think he was just eating a peanut butter sandwich and didn’t have any milk.

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  351. 358 Bronchitis BeRiGaN April 29, 2008 at 10:10 pm

    SG, you are just cruel! 😆

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  352. 359 Savannah Guy April 29, 2008 at 10:13 pm

    WW, we should say some really bad things about Paladin, since he’s fast asleep snoring and all…

    By the time he wakes up we’ll be long gone. Then, as always, sometime tomorrow when we return we won’t even read his nasty rebuttals anyway, like he said earlier.

    Whaddaya say?

    :mrgreen:

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  353. 360 flbravesgirl April 29, 2008 at 10:13 pm

    Well, sore/inflamed is better than torn. I guess we just have to wait & see.

    Pretty solid outing for Glavine. I wasn’t expecting him to go that far in the game.

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  354. 361 Savannah Guy April 29, 2008 at 10:15 pm

    I’ll go first:

    Paladin, you ain’t right. Ain’t right at all.

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  355. 362 Savannah Guy April 29, 2008 at 10:18 pm

    Sorry you’re feeling sore and inflamed FBG. Icy Hot and ice pack would help. But you’ll get over it. They won’t lose every game. 😀

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  356. 363 flbravesgirl April 29, 2008 at 10:20 pm

    🙄

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  357. 364 williamwallace April 29, 2008 at 10:22 pm

    I don’t think Paladin made any posts today. I don’t see his name anywhere over the last 24 hours

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  358. 366 chrisklob April 29, 2008 at 10:24 pm

    WW, he’s writing with a new pen name.

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  359. 367 flbravesgirl April 29, 2008 at 10:25 pm

    You two will probably have singed eyebrows tomorrow, you know.

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  360. 368 williamwallace April 29, 2008 at 10:25 pm

    I saw we had two new bloggers on here and scrolled by them … jus figured they had something to pimp

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  361. 369 williamwallace April 29, 2008 at 10:27 pm

    Nice to hear from ya, Klobber. Haven’t talked to ya in a while.

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  362. 370 flbravesgirl April 29, 2008 at 10:27 pm

    He changes names like VOR does avatars.

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  363. 371 flbravesgirl April 29, 2008 at 10:29 pm

    By the way, if SG & WW are Paladin’s nephews does that mean we’re related? He’s elected himself my great-uncle.

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  364. 372 williamwallace April 29, 2008 at 10:30 pm

    FBG, ever wonder if he changed his names like that when he was up in the air? Got his names confused and caused all types of confusion and chaos up in the air

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  365. 373 chrisklob April 29, 2008 at 10:30 pm

    WW, been busy with a new job. Plus the kids’ schedule is absolutely about to break us.

    How’s your new gig going?

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  366. 374 flbravesgirl April 29, 2008 at 10:33 pm

    That could be bad. Like the one driver causing the huge pile-up & obliviously driving on while the mess is behind them.

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  367. 375 williamwallace April 29, 2008 at 10:36 pm

    FBG, wait until I make a pass at you before you tell me I’m your cousin ….. from what I hear from the Grinch, you’re too good looking to want as a cousin

    if you ain’t interested, then you can always say no, you’re my cousin

    The cousin excuse will spare me the hurt feelings of no – are you out of your ever loving mind you ugly boring jerk? – what made you think you had a chance with me?

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  368. 376 flbravesgirl April 29, 2008 at 10:40 pm

    When did he say that? News to me.

    Now I have no idea what you look like but you are certainly not boring.

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  369. 377 flbravesgirl April 29, 2008 at 10:47 pm

    Must be time for the Green One to get those eyes checked.

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  370. 378 chrisklob April 29, 2008 at 11:06 pm

    FBG, you’re doing it again. STOP IT! 🙂

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  371. 379 flbravesgirl April 29, 2008 at 11:15 pm

    Chris, that’s sweet of you. But I am well aware that my looks are average at best. Don’t know what would possess Grinch to say such a thing. Maybe WW was just pulling my leg.

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  372. 380 williamwallace April 29, 2008 at 11:19 pm

    Glad to hear things are going well for you Klobber. Things are still too slow for me so far but it’ll pick up.

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  373. 381 williamwallace April 29, 2008 at 11:22 pm

    Ugly women always think they are gorgeous.

    Gorgeous women always think they are average.

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  374. 382 chrisklob April 29, 2008 at 11:28 pm

    WW, thanks! I hope things pick up for you soon.

    Well said in your 11.22. I was trying to say something similar but you posted it quicker and better than I would have.

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  375. 383 ssiscribe April 29, 2008 at 11:28 pm

    Top of the evening, denizens. Gotta jet to bed here, but just wanted to say hello.

    Tough loss tonight, for sure. Frustrating that the lack of clutch hitting and missed pitch location by the bullpen continues to do in the ballclub. Case in point: two on in the seventh, game tied at 2-2, top of the order up, and can’t get anything done. Then, bottom half of the seventh, Boyer leaves a pitch out over the plate (was supposed to be off the dish, but tailed back and got way too much of the plate) and Zimmerman smacks it the other way to score two runs.

    Couldn’t ask for much more outta Tommy tonight: two runs over six innings, gotta win when your starter gives you that. At least it seems, for now, that we’ll have Smoltz back in two to four weeks, and maybe in the bullpen as opposed to the rotation.

    As I wrote on http://braves.today.com this morning, it’s time for Tim Hudson to man up and start pitching like an ace. The Braves NEED somebody to do it. So far, Jair Jurrjens and Jeff Bennett have saved this first month, but Hudson’s got to stop this three-inning madness.

    Sigh, had to vent some frustration there. Need to win tomorrow, come home and get going against the Reds and Padres.

    Y’all, I’m still in shock over the Hawks … totally crazy down here in the A. EVERYBODY is talking about what these kids have done. I don’t think they’ll win Game 5, but I like their chances in Game 6 (I’m going), and when you get to a Game 7, anything can truly happen. Even if the Hawks lose the next two, it’s been fun and it’s a heck of a jumping-off point for next season.

    And, for those of you who were in Atlanta in the late 1980s, when the Hawks captured this city’s attention and grabbed its heart … like the Braves did starting in 1991 … here’s a little musical blast from the past. I used to listen to this song before going to every Hawks game, and often, we’d listen to it on the way to school in the mornings.

    Enjoy your evening.

    The Scribe abides.

    –30–

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  376. 384 Carolina Lady April 29, 2008 at 11:30 pm

    This is the beauty of the internet. We get to know each other by what we are inside, our character, without the distraction of exterior packaging. Very nice, isn’t it? 🙂

    See y’all tomorrow!

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  377. 385 flbravesgirl April 29, 2008 at 11:32 pm

    Good night, CL!

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  378. 386 chrisklob April 29, 2008 at 11:42 pm

    CL, it’s not just the exterior packaging. A blog allows us to freely communicate without reference to race, religion, political affiliation, socio-economic background, etc., etc.

    No matter our background, we are all equals.

    This is a good thing.

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  379. 387 chrisklob April 29, 2008 at 11:45 pm

    Scribe, well said. Glavine battled tonight. He got into trouble several times, yet managed to provide the team with a quality start. Too bad they couldn’t get the sticks going. This season reminds me too much of last year. They score ten in one game and then can’t hit worth a lick for two games. Very frustrating.

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  380. 388 flbravesgirl April 29, 2008 at 11:47 pm

    They do seem to use up all the mojo at once.

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  381. 389 flbravesgirl April 30, 2008 at 12:15 am

    La-de-da-deee-daa…

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  382. 390 chrisklob April 30, 2008 at 12:18 am

    Is that like “la-de-frickin-da”?

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  383. 391 flbravesgirl April 30, 2008 at 12:23 am

    Just warming up the crickets.

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  384. 392 flbravesgirl April 30, 2008 at 12:27 am

    My favorite Belbin/Agosto program:

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  385. 393 flbravesgirl April 30, 2008 at 1:00 am

    Ok y’all, the night shift needs beefing up. There will be more skating & dancing if I have to fill up the dead air space.

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  386. 394 flbravesgirl April 30, 2008 at 1:02 am

    Good night.

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  387. 395 Bob, journalist April 30, 2008 at 3:05 am

    Maybe it’s just me but Bowman seemed rather snarly in his reporting tonight … and Glavine’s “I’m wondering if I’m ever going to win a game” … might suggest some testiness, though I don’t know the context … he hasn’t pitched badly but we’ve lost all four of his starts.

    In happier times, I had thought that John said relieving/closing was harder on him physically than starting, relative to his physical problems. Sounds like John may be looking at 2008 as his last … sure wish they could offer him something better than rest and reevaluate … I imagine that he more or less rested from September to late February … and still anticipated or experienced the problem when he approached Spring Training … I hope they’re right but it sounds almost like Smoltz told them early on … “it hasn’t gone away but I’ll figure out a way … just get me through this year”

    I hope for his sake he isn’t too insistent and doesn’t try to do too much … I also hope that better chemistry exists than is my perception … besting the pitcher is the name of the game … Ty Cobb would have told you that, methinks … and maybe four of the eight try to so do, at least some of the time and Chipper could hit .500, if only he believed that he could.

    The way a team plays as a whole determines its success. You may have the greatest bunch of individual stars in the world, but if they don’t play together, the club won’t be worth a dime,/i>” … yes, Polonius was overheard telling that to George Steinbrenner’s grandfather … who failed to pass that wisdom along to George … but it wasn’t wasted … it was another George who had overheard him, … Herman Ruth who in turn told the media. Charlie Finley read what Mr. Ruth said … understood, and took it to heart … Charlie figured Polonius meant it was better to get a bunch of unproven kids who would play as a team … pay them a dime, and then maybe the club would be worth more than the sum of its parts … and they called Charlie crazy.

    I like Charlie’s interpretation but … methinks the Braves should heed the words of Polonius as borrowed by Ruth … though Polonius would have advised against their borrowing as well.

    In a 1999 ESPN poll, Babe Ruth was ranked as the third greatest US athlete of the century, behind Michael Jordan and Muhammad Ali … what a joke!

    I often ponder if sja and I are the only ones who find humor in my I holding strongly with the advice of Polonius … he of “brevity is the soul of wit” fame … I’ll bet Scoots did.

    Good Night and God Bless

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  388. 396 Bob, journalist April 30, 2008 at 3:08 am

    Sorry about the corrupt closing italics tag … bummer!

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  389. 397 Bronchitis BeRiGaN April 30, 2008 at 3:33 am

    Bob, you gotta watch them italics….they are very corrupt! 😛

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  390. 398 Bob, journalist April 30, 2008 at 3:51 am

    Hi Lincoln Man … how are you feeling?

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  391. 399 Bob, journalist April 30, 2008 at 4:03 am

    Berigan, … earlier, CL expressed some nice sentiments about the Internet … and it would be nice if it were truly so … but there are many reasons why folks hide behind masks … and why predators are so successful on the Internet … and why grandma has such big teeth. It scares me to death … especially for the youngsters.

    In response, Chris said … “No matter our background, we are all equals” … Daddy taught me about equality … he said “We’re all equals, it’s just that some are more equal than others … and whether that’s good or bad depends on how equal you are” … goodness!

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  392. 400 Bronchitis BeRiGaN April 30, 2008 at 5:11 am

    Bob, thanks for asking…I feel better, big difference came when fever left after 5 days….I’d feel much better if I could, you know…sleep! 😕 I slept from 11 am til 4 pm, and that was the most sleep I have had since I got sick a week ago. Kinda hard to get over something if you are up for 21 hours a day.
    Lungs HATE ME for trying to lie down(Lay down?? What’s the old saying, Chickens lay, somethin, somethin’?)
    Throat constricts when I…rest in bed. Whine, whine, whine….well, I’d be in bed now, but lungs are tight(Or is it just my bronchial tubes?) ….Wish I could pop them out real quick, squeeze all the gunk out of them(Or use a vacuum) and put them right back in. I can hold my breathe for the time it would take…wouldn’t have a choice, would I?

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  393. 401 Bronchitis BeRiGaN April 30, 2008 at 5:16 am

    Thought this was interesting from a Gammons column…

    Jim Leyland loved the stat in “The Bill James Gold Mine” that Magglio Ordonez led the majors in RBIs on singles.

    “Some guys roll up RBI numbers in 15-20 games,” says Leyland, “Mags will cut down and drive in the run when it counts. If you have a 130-RBI guy who’ll punch the ball into right-center with the game on the line, you have someone special.”

    Barry Bonds, for instance. Thanks to Rob Tracy of Elias, this is the list (through Thursday) of the players who have driven in the most runs on singles in 2007-2008:

    51 Magglio Ordonez
    49 Michael Young
    47 Derek Jeter
    45 Matt Holliday
    45 Delmon Young
    42 Ichiro Suzuki
    41 Mike Lowell
    40 Miguel Cabrera
    40 Jeff Francoeur
    39 Mark DeRosa
    39 Victor Martinez

    While many of us have grown wary of those big-walk, big-strikeout players who don’t alter their approaches to get runners home from third, those who make contact and produce continually intrigue us. For instance, that Gary Sheffield swings as hard as he does and has 342 more walks than strikeouts in his career is astounding. It’s been pointed out that we should have known Ryan Garko was going to hit when he had more homers than strikeouts.

    One of the most reliable barometers on hitters is that small group that has more walks and extra-base hits than strikeouts, something Dustin Pedroia has had every year in high school, college, the minors and the majors. Again, thanks to Rob Tracy, here are those who have more walks and more extra-base hits than strikeouts in 2007-08:

    2007-08, 500 PA
    PLAYER……………. PA XBH BB SO
    Vladimir Guerrero 753 80 78 77
    Conor Jackson 554 56 62 54
    Chipper Jones 693 85 90 84
    Casey Kotchman 590 61 58 48
    Dustin Pedroia 686 60 56 52
    Placido Polanco 706 49 46 34
    Albert Pujols 775 81 119 65

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  394. 402 Gil in Mechanicsville April 30, 2008 at 6:27 am

    Hail Broncus…. Nice piece on clutch RBI…

    Yes Bob, people tend to vote for folks they are familiar with. Why else do you think politicians join the biggest church in their district?

    Personally, I think it all come down to what each individual voter’s definition of great is. And how much they watch ESPN…

    Smoltz didn’t really find being the bullpen more taxing on his arm, he found it to be more taxing on his golf game…. Now, if anyone has any questions on how much the Braves miss Peter Moylan, they need only to review last night’s meltdown of Blaine Boyer. The real momentum shift however, took place in the top of the inning when the Brave had Diaz on third and failed to score with less than two outs. I saw a loss coming then.

    I am not ready to give up on this team yet but they are trying my patience…

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  395. 403 Gil in Mechanicsville April 30, 2008 at 6:34 am

    And I could not help but think last night while watching Tom Terrific grind out 6 innings with slow, slower and slowest junk that he left Atlanta for the Mets as Tom Glavine and returned as Charlie Leibrandt… Circle change anyone???

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  396. 404 Gil in Mechanicsville April 30, 2008 at 6:37 am

    And Millage is an awful outfielder…. That kid is going to get hurt running into either Kearns (ask Johnson about that) or Willie Mo. He might have a shot at taking out Willie Harris though.

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  397. 405 Gil in Mechanicsville April 30, 2008 at 6:42 am

    Carolina Lady… We all know beauty is only skin deep but ugly goes clean thru to the bone…

    And 008… I still like your new avatar… very classy….

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  398. 406 Skyhawk 008 April 30, 2008 at 8:40 am

    Some “observations” to show I do read the overnights.

    SG; ‘Course I’m not right. I’m a friend of yours.

    w(Friends, Romans, Countrymen)w; He has such a high opinion of himself that I wonder if he sometimes slips in court and calls himself “Your Honor”.

    FBG; “He elected himself my uncle”. I don’t remember it going down quite that way but regardless it will be no problem in the future. “He changes names almost as much as VOR does avatars. Speaking of which: That piece of cake must be like marble by now. Don’t you think you should at least put a cake cover over it?

    Gil; Thanks for your nice words about the avatar. It is not the actual plane but the same model. BTW, John McCain also flew them and that is one of the reasons I am going to vote for him.

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  399. 407 Voice of Raisins April 30, 2008 at 9:13 am

    Hello, it’s me!

    I’m back from my weekly odyssey, returning to my backlog of work. Add to that, at 10:30, I have to go to my daughter’s school for “Picnic with Pop.” Gonna be a busy day. I’ll be in and out, maybe more out than in… 😐

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  400. 408 Hillbilly April 30, 2008 at 9:30 am

    Savannah Guy, 24 lbs, 10 3/4 inch beard, 1 inch spurs.

    Scribe, I can’t get past your damned security code. It’s like trying to hack in to the Pentagon. 🙂

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  401. 409 Voice of Raisins April 30, 2008 at 10:04 am

    Savannah Guy, 24 lbs, 10 3/4 inch beard, 1 inch spurs.

    I thought what happened in Vegas stayed in Vegas!?!

    😆

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  402. 410 ssiscribe April 30, 2008 at 10:06 am

    Hillbilly: Yeah, I can’t even get in there this morning to respond to some comments. I e-mailed the folks running the site and hopefully it will be cleared up soon … feel like I’m locked out of my house. Ugh!

    Speaking of ugh, another tough one last night. Really, REALLY need Jurrjens to go out there and shut things down this afternoon … and some clutch hitting would help, too 🙂

    And Go Hawks!

    –30–

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  403. 411 Skyhawk 008 April 30, 2008 at 10:13 am

    Ling Ling, Japan’s oldest giant panda, dies of heart failure at age 22 – AP

    See, that is what eating that damn health food will do for you. Red meat, fried foods and chianti are the secrets to a long life.

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  404. 412 Voice of Raisins April 30, 2008 at 10:14 am

    Red meat, fried foods and chianti are the secrets to a long life.

    …and KKD! (Krispy Kreme Donuts)

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  405. 413 Voice of Raisins April 30, 2008 at 10:16 am

    Oh crap!!! 😯

    I’m gonna be late for “Picnic with Pop”. My daughter will be ticked!

    Later…

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  406. 414 Skyhawk 008 April 30, 2008 at 10:22 am

    I guess last night was a good example of why I like football better than I do baseball. It was a boring game! Yes, football games(some of them)can be boring too, but at least SOMEBODY gets knocked on their azz every play. Speaking of: That play with Diaz trying to “take out” Estrada at the plate. I get run in to harder than that every time I go to Kroger! I said the other day that Diaz was my “man”. He is now my sweetie.

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  407. 415 flbravesgirl April 30, 2008 at 10:23 am

    Now don’t be crabby, great-uncle. Would you prefer a different wording?

    And you have gone through a number of names here recently.

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  408. 416 Skyhawk 008 April 30, 2008 at 10:25 am

    KKDs for everybody! Raisins is buying. 😀

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  409. 417 flbravesgirl April 30, 2008 at 10:27 am

    I’ll have a chocolate-covered cream-filled. If you’re gonna blow the diet you might as well do it big.

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  410. 418 Skyhawk 008 April 30, 2008 at 10:28 am

    FBG; If you would like to continue as my great-neice I would be honored. As for the name changes: It’s harder to hit a moving target. 😛

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  411. 419 flbravesgirl April 30, 2008 at 10:33 am

    Aha! So that’s the reason. 🙂

    And of course I would. What didn’t you like about elected? Adopted, designated, chose, any of those better?

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  412. 420 Skyhawk 008 April 30, 2008 at 10:36 am

    FBG; I did it so that when I said things like how lovely and sweet you are you wouldn’t think the old man was hitting on you. Just natural great-uncle pride. See?

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  413. 421 Bronchitis BeRiGaN April 30, 2008 at 10:37 am

    Morning. One hour of sleep 😕 Then, my lungs and bronchial passages decided to shut down, and force me awake…..cough syrup, pill for coughing(Perhaps I should have said I needed a pill not for coughing, but to stop coughing! ) inhaler….nothing quite doing the trick…every time I get something, it seems worse than the last time.
    Doc didn’t want to give me oral steroids since they can bring up blood sugar…ask me if I care right now??? If I cough so much I drop dead, I will at least take comfort in having low blood sugar.

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  414. 422 Bronchitis BeRiGaN April 30, 2008 at 10:39 am

    Hillbilly Says:
    April 30, 2008 at 9:30 am

    Savannah Guy, 24 lbs, 10 3/4 inch beard, 1 inch spurs.

    Wow!!! 😯 Your poor wife! Thats a big kid! And a beard, spurs??? 😯 😯 😯

    Oh wait, your just talking turkey! 😳

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  415. 423 flbravesgirl April 30, 2008 at 10:40 am

    😦 Berigan. You poor guy. Has he put you on prescription cough syrup? If not, ask for it.

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  416. 424 Skyhawk 008 April 30, 2008 at 10:41 am

    I’ve got to go do some yard work AND get as far from Bearman’s germs as I can. 😛 Later.

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  417. 425 flbravesgirl April 30, 2008 at 10:41 am

    There’s a Foxworthy redneck joke in there somewhere.

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  418. 426 Skyhawk 008 April 30, 2008 at 10:44 am

    You might be a redneck if your Lincoln is in the front yard…on concrete blocks. Is that what you had in mind?

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  419. 427 flbravesgirl April 30, 2008 at 10:46 am

    The turkey post.

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  420. 428 Bronchitis BeRiGaN April 30, 2008 at 10:53 am

    FLB, no…strangely enough he didn’t. He looked in my sinuses, said they looked bad….ears where bad, listened to me cackle when I took a deep breath and said I had bronchitis. Gave me free meds 🙂 Antibotic, and some cough pill. Don’t know why he didn’t give me cough syrup prescription, and wish I had remembered the steroids. Called about that today. Hope he doesn’t worry about a spike in sugar…..I got to sleep, and nothing is working! 😦
    He’s really a swell guy…..best doctor I have ever had, actually gives a damn about patients. Even talked about someday just making housecalls.

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  421. 429 flbravesgirl April 30, 2008 at 10:58 am

    See if he’ll give you a script for cough syrup or maybe you should try a different kind. Sounds like the cough is what’s bothering you the most.

    Be back shortly.

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  422. 430 Hillbilly April 30, 2008 at 11:01 am

    Who said anything about a Turkey? I might have been talking about Grinch. 😉

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  423. 431 Bronchitis BeRiGaN April 30, 2008 at 11:02 am

    Will try to sleep again….primatene mist stuff gives me 15-20 minutes of not feeling like a 4 pack a day smoker….

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  424. 432 morpheus45 April 30, 2008 at 11:03 am

    Tommy complaining he’s not getting wins? Sounds like New York rubbed off on him more than we realized.

    Skyhawk, my Grandma used to drive a Buick; I think I’ll vote for Tiger Woods. And we wonder why the economy’s in the %$^%er. 🙂

    Much work to do; I’ll only be here occasionally for the next few days. You may all clap now.

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  425. 433 Bronchitis BeRiGaN April 30, 2008 at 11:05 am

    Grinch, DVD should go out today, IF my Dad gets by the PO…..

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  426. 434 morpheus45 April 30, 2008 at 11:07 am

    I heard that, Hillbilly. The Billy Gibbons beard has been neatly trimmed. I’m a fan of the Hawks, not the Spurs, and the only part of my body that weighs 24 pounds is my liver.

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  427. 435 Hillbilly April 30, 2008 at 11:07 am

    Speaking of Tiger Woods/golf….Check out my man John Daly representing the Natural State so well. I wish they’d play this on ESPN for all the Tiger Woods ###-huggers around the nation. FBG, here’s your redneck joke right here:

    http://ozarksfirst.com/media_player.php?media_id=34761

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  428. 436 morpheus45 April 30, 2008 at 11:08 am

    Good deal; much obliged. And to those of you I haven’t sent a link to yet I will later in the day. Got to run.

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  429. 437 flbravesgirl April 30, 2008 at 11:22 am

    Hi, Grinch. Bye, Grinch.

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  430. 438 flbravesgirl April 30, 2008 at 12:22 pm

    Everybody on lunch break?

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  431. 439 Gil in Mechanicsville April 30, 2008 at 12:37 pm

    Oh my Hillbilly… That’s funny, I don’t care who you are 🙂

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  432. 440 Bob, journalist April 30, 2008 at 12:55 pm

    Every day is veteran’s day, methinks!

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  433. 441 Voice of Raisins April 30, 2008 at 12:57 pm

    “Shirtless and shoeless…” John Daly is anything but pretentious, that’s for sure! 😀

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  434. 442 Savannah Guy April 30, 2008 at 1:30 pm

    Just ducking in for a few…

    Hillbilly, that’s a fine wall hanger you got there. Very nice. And the fried wild turkey strips, are nice prize too.

    John Daley a redneck? Nah… he’s just a good ol’ boy. Here’s a true neck:

    You might be a redneck if…

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  435. 443 flbravesgirl April 30, 2008 at 1:44 pm

    Or you might just be insane. 😯

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  436. 444 flbravesgirl April 30, 2008 at 2:05 pm

    The swimming through green pond scum just is not something a sane person would do.

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  437. 445 Skyhawk 008 April 30, 2008 at 2:34 pm

    You might be a redneck if the centerpiece of your dinning room table is a piece of taxidermy. Sorry, Hillbilly 😛

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  438. 446 Skyhawk 008 April 30, 2008 at 2:38 pm

    Also you might be a redneck if you think fast food is roadkill you hit at 65mph.

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  439. 447 Voice of Raisins April 30, 2008 at 2:39 pm

    Don’t know if anybody has heard, but Hampton reinjured the pec muscle in his rehab start today. No word on how far this may set him back… 😦

    This guy can’t find a break! I really feel bad for him. I know alot of folks like to talk about him stealing the Braves’ money and all that, but I know the guy has to be torn up over the constant injuries.

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  440. 448 Hillbilly April 30, 2008 at 2:41 pm

    No need, Skyhawk. I don’t qualify on those grounds and even if I did, it wouldn’t offend me.

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  441. 449 Skyhawk 008 April 30, 2008 at 2:56 pm

    Talk about not catching a break! I can’t even offend anyone today. 😛

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  442. 450 Voice of Raisins April 30, 2008 at 3:04 pm

    Giving credit where credit is due: Mr. O’Brien has a very nice piece on Smoltz across the street today.

    Also giving “credit” where “credit” is due: The majority of the people posting over there (Note: not ALL of them) are the biggest immature losers I have ever seen. Some of the things being said about Hampton are beyond vicious. Alot of the things are simply stupid and uninformed. Once again, I am so very appreciative of the Colossus, the Dalai Mama, and a great group of sensable adults with whom I can hold reasonable discussions. Sheesh, I still can’t get over the level of individual stupidity found over there… 😡

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  443. 451 Skyhawk 008 April 30, 2008 at 3:04 pm

    “Alabama’s worst air disaster occurred early today when a Cessna 152 crashed into a cemetery in Montgomery. Exhausted search and rescue workers have recovered 428 bodies so far and Police expect the number to climb as digging continues into the night.”

    Gosh, I hope Salty is OK!

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  444. 452 Skyhawk 008 April 30, 2008 at 3:09 pm

    Raisins, it will not get any better, believe me. Just go over, read the top of the piece, and when you get to the song lyrics, leave. And I agree with you about Hampton. He gave his best, when he could. But, I’m afraid this is it. 😦

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  445. 453 Voice of Raisins April 30, 2008 at 3:23 pm

    You know, Palcon, my brain knows that the blog across the street is rife with and idiots, yet somehow I still glance at ’em while looking for BLUE names with clubhouse updates. The level of immaturity still catches me offguard sometimes. 🙄

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  446. 454 Gil in Mechanicsville April 30, 2008 at 3:34 pm

    What I can’t believe is everyone is still writing off Hampton. I reality he pitched better today than he did last Saturday but at around 55 pitches, he felt the same twinge he had in Richmond. Nothing has changed. He is still scheduled to make another start Sunday or Monday.

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  447. 455 Skyhawk 008 April 30, 2008 at 3:35 pm

    I know. And the pitiful thing is Grinch and I use to talk about how much superior the DOB blog was to the Falcon one. Not any more. They are both filled with brain-dead bottom feeders. I would pay real good money to see one of those keyboard big-talkers say some of those things to the player’s faces. Hampton, for one.

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  448. 456 Skyhawk 008 April 30, 2008 at 3:38 pm

    I hope you are right, Gil. But, when he walks off after one pitch(in the inning)it was more than a little “tick”.

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  449. 457 Gil in Mechanicsville April 30, 2008 at 3:42 pm

    Most of them are just out of puberty Hawk. They are part of the me first, in your face generation. At least until they actually have to look someone in the eye. For the most part, they have a big L branded on their forehead. It is why I limit my conversations over there to a few short words.

    Most of them (not all) couldn’t manage a Fantasy team much less a real baseball team. The limit of their baseball knowledge extends to what the see and hear on ESPN and This Week in Baseball…..

    Now good news… Mets are losing big at Shea…. There is Karma….

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  450. 458 Gil in Mechanicsville April 30, 2008 at 3:48 pm

    I think we will have to wait and see on Hampton, you might be right.

    I think, however, he is just trying to get to a point where the pain is tolerable. I think there might also be a certain amount of fear involved. Not wanting to push it to where there actually is major damage.

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  451. 459 Skyhawk 008 April 30, 2008 at 3:59 pm

    Let’s keep our fingers crossed. We need him!

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  452. 460 morpheus45 April 30, 2008 at 4:41 pm

    Y’all, this might be the most physically beautiful day in the history of creation. Shame on anyone sitting in front of a keyboard (and I’m only here for about 2 minutes). Now, Hampton…

    I really like Hampton. Always have. This Spring he had the best stuff of any of our starters and I thought there was no way he wasn’t going to win 12-15 even with missing the inevitable few starts. You can certainly question his fragility, but nobody should question his mental toughness and grit. Here’s my latest theory on why the guy who by all appearances is a superior athlete and still relatively young, yet literally can’t seem to lift a spoonful of cereal to his mouth without tearing a muscle off the bone:

    He used to play football. You see all kinds of football players who used to play baseball, run track, play basketball, etc. and when their life begins to focus on football (the pinnacle of all sports) they gain the ability to play through all manner of awful injuries that a baseball player would retire from if they had to even look at them. But it doesn’t seem that way when you turn it around, at least not in the long term.

    Think about it: Dion doesn’t count, because he didn’t play long enough and he didn’t really play football, either (he sat out with injuries that a middle-school girl’s softball coach would’ve called him a pansy for, but being “Neon” he got away with it). Bo Jackson, anyone? Brian Jordan? Jordan was a pro-bowl quality safety (a position that a pansy couldn’t play) in the NFL, then came over to baseball and had a few good years and then started to inexplicably fall apart physically in his early to mid-thirties. Exact same thing’s happening to Hampton; I wonder if when your body gets used to the extreme full-throttle abuse of football it never really adjusts properly to a slower game that uses different muscles. Hope this doesn’t bode ill for Francouer in a few years.

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  453. 461 Skyhawk 008 April 30, 2008 at 5:12 pm

    Well spoken, or written, Grinch. And I come in every few minutes to rest from my yard work. Baseball player. Football player. Jet pilot. Sooner or later, Father Time sends you to the bench. Remember what the Godfather was doing when the big one came? Playing with the kiddies amongst the rudabagas and sunflowers. I hope the Chief doesn’t let me come to that!

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  454. 462 Gil in Mechanicsville April 30, 2008 at 6:12 pm

    The old adage that wishing don’t make it so….. I really wanted Hampton to come back, I was really pulling for him to do it if for no other reason than to shut up the nay sayers and the Chicken Littles… Alas, back to the MRI again no doubt. Perhaps we should just shoot for the All-Star break. Maybe that would be more realistic. Maybe not… Facts remain, you have to play with the guys that show up. Sometimes that means the guys who are still playing have to suck it up and take a few for the team.

    Observation on Blaine Boyer… I’m sorry guys, I just can’t like this kid. He reminds me of an American League style pitcher. A human rain delay. It’s as if he doesn’t want to take the mound after he gets out there. I know, you have to play with the guys available but surely there is somebody around who can take his spot.

    I hope he makes me eat my words but he hasn’t so far….

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  455. 463 Savannah Guy April 30, 2008 at 6:42 pm

    Good post Grinch. Makes sense.

    Started watching the game about half hour ago. This is not Spring Training, right? Maybe Cox should have a “team meeting” once every 5 days since that last one resulted in a 5 game streak. Seems our team has all the wind knocked out of their sails. Understandable… they know what losing Smoltz and Glavine on a regular basis this year means, not to mention Soriano, Moylan, Gonzo, Hampton and… am I forgetting anyone? You get the point. There is a giant sucking sound and it does not bode well for dreaming of postseason… or even a winning season for that matter.

    It’s hard to watch our team struggle like this. Even though it’s still very early in this young season, but our decimated pitching staff and all of the talented but not quite ready for prime time youth on our team just won’t make it. Add to that, all the other owner/manager/franchise givens, here are the choices I see for our 2008 Braves:

    A. Status quo/business as usual this year: Braves strategy is to try and piece together a trade or two (no blockbusters) and scratch to get in the playoffs. To do this they’ll have to break out the band-aids, chewing gum, glue and rubber bands to patch together a pitching staff. Then we hobble along and hope our division rivals have anywhere near the bad luck (not injuries) that we’ve had. Oh, and hold our collective breath that we don’t lose more pitching to injury.

    B. Sell the farm, make a few big trades and go for broke: In this strategy the Braves franchise would mortgage the future, trade everything not nailed down to a 40 man roster, spend whatever money they can scrape together to try and win it all in what may be the last year for Smoltz, Glavine and Cox.

    C. Bite the bullet, accept the inevitable and begin a new era: Braves would accept that 2008 would not be our year to make a run at postseason. We promote players from within the system, we trade players that don’t fit the rebuilding strategy, we keep Chipper, Smoltz (even if his arm falls off) and Glavine, we make necessary ‘must-have’ trades (can’t think of any in this scenario), bring up the kids, trade for some new kids, hire new “tried and true” coaches and coach the young team heavily for the next few years.

    Continuing, promote Cox to an upstairs VP role (working heavily with recruitment) and hire a new manager to take over the new era. With this option (C), the rest of this year and in the next few we’ll lose more games than we win, but the rebuilding process will be in place with substantive improvements each year. The remainder of 2008 season will help play the youth movement, see what we’ve got, separate the men from the boys and put ourselves on a similar track as we did in 1986. We would reasonably aim to re-enter the playoffs in 2011, win it all in 2012 and be a team to beat throughout that decade… until we have to retool again. Good teams are cyclical. This year ain’t in the winning cycle.

    ~

    At what point are we going to stop “making do” with a dysfunctional system and get reorganized? Will Wren do that? Anyway, it seems inevitable that we begin a new era and let the one that started in 1991 and ended in 2005 just rest in peace. It’s coming… we just recognize it and do something about it this year, next year or the one after that.

    Obviously, I have absolutely no way of knowing and don’t pretend to, but I suspect that the Braves would opt for (A). I’d be happy with A or C.

    Any options I’m missing? What say you?

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  456. 464 Skyhawk 008 April 30, 2008 at 7:19 pm

    Jeez SG. If you had given the Gettysburg Address it would still be in progress.

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  457. 465 Skyhawk 008 April 30, 2008 at 7:26 pm

    ‘Course ww could convert Jack and Jill into a tome.

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  458. 466 Bronchitis BeRiGaN April 30, 2008 at 7:33 pm

    One weird game!!!! 😯 Jeff Bennett, nose bleed for no reason. Blaine Boyer pitching almost 2 innings after pitching last night….12th inning, in less than 3 hours…..Gotay actually playing a game(Never played an inning on the field til today)and Gotay made a great play(Heard it was a great play, via radio)

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  459. 467 Skyhawk 008 April 30, 2008 at 7:37 pm

    You can say what you will about Kotsay, but he is NOT a rally killer.

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  460. 468 Bronchitis BeRiGaN April 30, 2008 at 7:45 pm

    P-Din, don’t miss seeing swing and miss, strike 3, 2-3 times a game…been cookin’, why is Tex not at first???

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  461. 469 Skyhawk 008 April 30, 2008 at 7:47 pm

    Defense, or so Bobby says.

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  462. 470 Skyhawk 008 April 30, 2008 at 7:49 pm

    Secure all hatches. Dive! Dive!

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  463. 471 Savannah Guy April 30, 2008 at 7:49 pm

    Smart move, batting Acosta with two on that last inning. Guess Cox figured he was doing so well out there and we didn’t need the runs…

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  464. 472 Bronchitis BeRiGaN April 30, 2008 at 7:51 pm

    And whatever you do Bobby, don’t ever have either lefty pitch to a righty! 🙄

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  465. 473 Savannah Guy April 30, 2008 at 7:53 pm

    This game is pitiful. We’re having a tough time with Washington this year. Are we playing at their level or are they playing at ours? Are both teams at the same level? Seems so… (AAA)

    Walked in the tying run. Nicely done Manny. Now, watch how we lose another one run game, coming right up…

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  466. 474 Skyhawk 008 April 30, 2008 at 7:54 pm

    Glub. Glub. g’night.

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  467. 475 Bronchitis BeRiGaN April 30, 2008 at 7:58 pm

    SG, I was busy cooking, didn’t know that 2 were on and Acosta hit!!!!

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  468. 476 Savannah Guy April 30, 2008 at 8:00 pm

    That prediction didn’t take one of those little fortune telling magic 8-Balls. It is ugly times for the old Bravos.

    Other than no clutch hitting, no small ball, no bunting, no speed, no stealing base, no errorless fielding and only Jair pitching with any consistency, they aren’t doing all that bad. They are actually very good at, uh… well, give me a few minutes…

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  469. 478 Bronchitis BeRiGaN April 30, 2008 at 8:03 pm

    0-9 now in 1 run games…..how many playoff teams do this??? I heard the Nationals were 3-6 in one run games, so they are now 4-6….yay for them.. 😕

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  470. 479 Skyhawk 008 April 30, 2008 at 8:06 pm

    Fore score and seven years ago…we had a competitive divisional team. What hoppen?

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  471. 480 Skyhawk 008 April 30, 2008 at 8:12 pm

    My cigar is burning down to its final ashes. Like my hopes that this Braves team can compete. Jurgens and ??? and pray for rain. Hitting, particularly clutch hitting. Forgedaboutit.

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  472. 484 morpheus45 April 30, 2008 at 9:21 pm

    LET’S GO HAWKS! 🙂

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  473. 485 Gil in Mechanicsville April 30, 2008 at 10:21 pm

    The baseball gods must be angry at Frank Wren. I am sure this is not the way he had it drawn up in February. All is not lost yet but the rats are already making plans to jump ship.

    Let’s see if the Braves can beat the Reds and get things turned around.

    Sscribe ask about the options and when do the Braves pull the plug? Well, you have until the trade deadline to jettison Tex. Then you will know the Braves have thrown in the towel. I don’t think anyone else is going anywhere.

    Now… a bit of commentary… This seems to be one of those seasons where every move Bobby makes backfires, everything he touches turns to crap. Hey, it happens…. Time for Bobby to take a week off or something. Anyone have a live chicken they are willing to part with?

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  474. 486 flbravesgirl April 30, 2008 at 10:25 pm

    Good evening y’all. How much would it cost to clone Jair? Should we start taking donations? I really like that kid & I really liked the game for the first 8 innings.

    Why did Bobby pull Jair after 84 pitches? Why can’t the bullpen keep from melting down? Why can’t the offense get going in close games? Why is Hampton cursed by the baseball gods? Why is Jason still on Idol? Whyyyyyyyyyy?

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  475. 487 flbravesgirl April 30, 2008 at 10:28 pm

    This concludes my whining for the night. We now return to our regularly scheduled programming.

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  476. 488 flbravesgirl April 30, 2008 at 10:32 pm

    That’s amazing, Berigan.

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  477. 489 flbravesgirl April 30, 2008 at 11:18 pm

    Where is everybody? Watching basketball? Don’t care for the sport myself but I hope the Hawks win for y’all’s sake.

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  478. 490 flbravesgirl April 30, 2008 at 11:46 pm

    FYI, we have passed 40,000 hits! 😀

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  479. 491 Bronchitis BeRiGaN April 30, 2008 at 11:57 pm

    Watchin’ TV with my Pa and his best friend….watched classic car auction stuff I Taped put on a dvd….
    Glad you liked the story FLB! Kinda choked me up….

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  480. 492 Bronchitis BeRiGaN April 30, 2008 at 11:59 pm

    To be a lousy hitter (.153 BA), getting teased like she was, then hit her first home run, then to blow out her knee….wow….glad the story had a happy ending…

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  481. 493 Bronchitis BeRiGaN May 1, 2008 at 12:01 am

    And Yes FLB, cloning JJ seems like an excellent idea, get crackin’ on it! 😉

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  482. 494 Bronchitis BeRiGaN May 1, 2008 at 12:23 am

    40,000 hits??? Thats great!!!! How many misses! 😕

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  483. 495 Bronchitis BeRiGaN May 1, 2008 at 12:23 am

    40,000 hits??? Thats great!!!! How many misses? 😕

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  484. 496 flbravesgirl May 1, 2008 at 12:25 am

    We don’t count the misses.

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  485. 497 flbravesgirl May 1, 2008 at 12:28 am

    And everyone can thank you for showing up for the night shift. I was collecting skating videos to unleash on y’all if you left me alone again.

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  486. 498 flbravesgirl May 1, 2008 at 12:37 am

    And once I’m back, he’s gone. 🙄

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  487. 499 Bronchitis BeRiGaN May 1, 2008 at 12:53 am

    I’m back, I’m back!

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  488. 500 Bronchitis BeRiGaN May 1, 2008 at 12:56 am

    baseball tonight is on….very late for some reason…supposed to be NFL live…

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  489. 501 Bronchitis BeRiGaN May 1, 2008 at 12:57 am

    Nude ice skating videos, FLB??? That would be interesting…. 😛

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  490. 502 flbravesgirl May 1, 2008 at 12:59 am

    Well yeah, now that I’m fixing to go to bed. This happens all the time; I get on the blog, everyone disappears. I do something else for a bit, someone posts. I come back, alone again.

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  491. 503 flbravesgirl May 1, 2008 at 1:01 am

    😯 Excuse me?!? Where did you come up with that?!

    Yow, that would be cold.

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  492. 504 flbravesgirl May 1, 2008 at 1:04 am

    I don’t think anyone could do that. I just about freeze at Stars on Ice & that’s with layers of clothing & my long wool coat. It’s really really cold in the rinks.

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  493. 505 Bronchitis BeRiGaN May 1, 2008 at 1:04 am

    Not just you young lady!!! There is no rhyme nor reason to if/when folks show up….

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  494. 506 Bronchitis BeRiGaN May 1, 2008 at 1:08 am

    Micah Owings pinch hit yesterday against the Astros…..Cecil Cooper, took the lefty out, put in a right hander to face the right handed hitting pitcher….and on the first pitch, hit an opposite field 2 run homer to tie the game!!!!! 😯

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  495. 507 Bronchitis BeRiGaN May 1, 2008 at 1:12 am

    Well, FLB….hats off to anyone willing to try it……for some reason, I imagine the guys might not want to be on or near the cold ice….for oh so many reasons! 😆

    Mets lost, there is some good news, that should help you sleep well FLB!

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  496. 508 flbravesgirl May 1, 2008 at 1:14 am

    Oh I imagine some goofball went into a rink in the middle of the night sometime & tried it. Probably got frostbite on some tender body parts too.

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  497. 509 flbravesgirl May 1, 2008 at 1:16 am

    Mets didn’t just lose, they got stomped.

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  498. 510 flbravesgirl May 1, 2008 at 1:19 am

    OK, time to put the computer to bed. Good night, Berigan!

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  499. 511 Bronchitis BeRiGaN May 1, 2008 at 1:22 am

    Hey FLB, I bet I know something you don’t know! Like, Joey Divine, after getting cut early in spring training, was called up by Oakland, and in 10 innings, has a 0.90 ERA….but who needed him, right? 😛

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  500. 512 Bronchitis BeRiGaN May 1, 2008 at 1:23 am

    Goodnight FLB!

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  501. 513 Gil in Mechanicsville May 1, 2008 at 4:49 am

    Good morning folks, thought I would stop by to cover the late shift. When Dickens wrote “The Night Before Christmas” (did he write that?) I’ll bet he didn’t own a cat. Miss Kitty always seems to be staring at me when I wake up….

    Now baseball…. Is it time to call in the witch doctor to remove this curse from the Braves’ bats? Is there another Braves team caught in a parallel universe trying to get back to us to replace the one we have been saddled with?

    This Braves team is seriously under achieving right now.

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  502. 514 Bronchitis BeRiGaN May 1, 2008 at 6:39 am

    Another former brave having a good start so far…
    Wilfredo Ledezma . 14 and 2/3rds innings, 1.15 ERA. He looked like a guy with good stuff, couldn’t figure out why he sucked so terribly for us last year….
    I wonder if Bobby just doesn’t like lefties anymore??? Macay McBride, walked a few guys, gone. Ledezma, sucked…gone. Royce Ring, walks guys…never gets a change to get righties out.

    After bashing Bobby a bit…I will say this. I don’t think anyone is going to run away with the NL East(Thank God) and after seeing a team last year that not only was dead in the water, but rotting as well, and still made a valiant effort….we are NOT done in April!

    But, I scratch my head to talk of Smoltz leaving the rotation. Then who replaces him??? What if Hudson has some problem??? Or Glavine tweaks the Hammy on a bunt???

    Acosta will do just fine, IF Soriano is out for an extended period. 3 innings, when was the last time a braves closer went 3 innings????

    We can have Carlyle, and Bennett pitch the 6-7 innings if they aren’t starting…We need starters, fairly healthy ones, if we are to have a chance.

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  503. 515 Bronchitis BeRiGaN May 1, 2008 at 6:48 am

    Just cuz I can’t sleep, I looked up Royce Ring’s numbers, lefties vs. righties….
    guess what???? From 2005- to 2007 in 78 AB’s against lefties, they are hitting .205 off him. In 77 AB’s against righties, they are hitting .182 against him!!! Nope, can’t pitch a whole inning, just a guy to get out lefties…
    Why, when the bullpen is seemingly so overtaxed do we have a guy who has pitched only 4 1/3 innings for the month of April????

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  504. 516 Bronchitis BeRiGaN May 1, 2008 at 7:11 am

    Hey! The suns up, why isn’t everyone else????

    Andruw is hitting .159 Furcal is hitting .381, and is tied for the team lead in homers, with a grand total of 3!
    Off to try yet again to sleep…don’t feel too badly for me….my lungs for the first time in a week, aren’t keeping me from breathing while I lay down. But, all these meds clearly have me amped up….. 11 hours of sleep in 3 days, and still not that tired….

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  505. 517 Bronchitis BeRiGaN May 1, 2008 at 7:14 am

    Ok, keep forgetting… Gil, Have you read why Jo-Jo left a game after only 2 innings this week????

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  506. 518 Salty May 1, 2008 at 7:50 am

    Berigan…Jo Jo is pitching for the Braves on Saturday.

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  507. 519 morpheus45 May 1, 2008 at 7:51 am

    Berigan, there’s a parallel between Bobby and Mike Woodson of the Hawks. Absolutely no consistent fire, no idea how to use the bench or even if to use it at all, outdated game plans that don’t match the young and talented members of the roster, and a guy that’s so nice you just don’t want to fire him. However, everyone knows (but few feel allowed to say) that both teams would surge forward like the nitrous had been cut on with just about any other coach.

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  508. 520 morpheus45 May 1, 2008 at 7:52 am

    Morning, Salty! Why, exactly, DO people get up this early on their own?

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  509. 521 morpheus45 May 1, 2008 at 7:55 am

    In Bobby’s defense, I will say that at one time his methods worked (he’s just old; it happens to everyone). Woody’s just a not-so-glorified Assistant Coach who should have kept to that roll with the Pistons.

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  510. 522 Salty May 1, 2008 at 7:55 am

    Parallel is not the same as…same? 😯
    If Mike Woodson had the Celtics, he’d still deliver what he has with the Hawks. Bobby, on the other hand, with the Red Sox would deliver…never mind. He’d still be Bobby, warts and all.

    Bobby’s problem is he had a roster full of talent and guys smart enough to be managers one day. They’re still smart enough to be managers, but executing like they used to is becoming more and more inconsistent. Matter over mind…sadly.

    I’m clueless if I said what I wanted, and, worse, not sure I care! Bah, humbug…and coffee’s not gonna help.

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  511. 523 Salty May 1, 2008 at 7:58 am

    I actually like rising early…just want to be left alone! 😆 I know folks mean well when they walk in bright-eyed and bushy-tailed with “Good Morning!” (like my wife!), but the fact is, they interrupt the silence!

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  512. 524 Salty May 1, 2008 at 8:01 am

    Don’t Interrupt the Sorrow (aka: DO’B’s blog) 😆
    http://www.last.fm/music/Joni+Mitchell/+videos/+1-M5MMdAf63iA

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  513. 525 Salty May 1, 2008 at 8:05 am

    CL…why does my ‘stuff’ get stuck in the lint filter? 😕 What have I done to deserve my own personal censor? Ouch! Goodness, if I’m gonna cause trouble, the least I can do is put forth the effort, like Pala/Fal/S’Hawk…or whomever ‘they’ are these days! 😛

    Like I tell my wife when I unexpectedly get in hot water: If you’re gonna be mad at me, at least let me deserve it!

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  514. 526 Salty May 1, 2008 at 8:08 am

    OK…granted three in a row (now four) is more than I’ve posted probably in the last week, but who knew I faded from B&S memory that fast! 😦 Oh, well, ‘life’ beckons…off I march! Have a pleasant ‘May Day’!

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  515. 527 Salty May 1, 2008 at 8:10 am

    Before I leave, in honor of the day (I know, it’s headed for the ‘filter’!)

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  516. 528 morpheus45 May 1, 2008 at 8:24 am

    Sorry I interrupted the silence of your blog post, dude…I totally should have seen you were trying to remain inconspicuous. 🙂

    And I’m not comparing Bobby to Woody ultimately (as in complete body of work); that would be obscene. Just right at the moment.

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  517. 529 Salty May 1, 2008 at 8:29 am

    Dude! 😆

    (Off to the lint filer, again! Sigh!) 😦

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  518. 530 Salty May 1, 2008 at 8:29 am

    Dude! 😆

    (Off to the lint filter, again! Sigh!) 😦

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  519. 531 Skyhawk 008 May 1, 2008 at 8:33 am

    I read the overnights and early mornings.

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  520. 532 morpheus45 May 1, 2008 at 8:39 am

    OK…not only was that apparently apropos of nothing, but it sounded alarmingly like “I’m Skyhawk and I’m an alcoholic.” 🙂

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  521. 533 Skyhawk 008 May 1, 2008 at 8:55 am

    No, it meant–and so? Salty bitching yet again about his “stuff” ending up in the filter. Well, from what I have read on line what ends up in the filter must REALLY be boring. As for you: You must have to get up real early to ascend the mount and then climb down with those rock tablets that you share with us. Who does your Hebrew – redneck translation?

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  522. 534 Skyhawk 008 May 1, 2008 at 9:13 am

    FORT MCMURRAY, Alberta (AP) – Canada’s government was investigating an oil sands company after hundreds of ducks that landed on a partially frozen pond filled with toxic waste died.

    Takeoffs are optional. Landings are mandantory. Plan
    ahead.

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  523. 535 morpheus45 May 1, 2008 at 9:17 am

    Hey, SOMEONE had to take over for Chuck Heston…takes me longer ’cause I’m out of shape.

    As for who does my translations:

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  524. 536 morpheus45 May 1, 2008 at 9:20 am

    Here we go again. I make a funny post with a funny link and it gets eaten. I hate wordpress. OK, man, you’re about to get sent a video via e-mail from youtube by a name you don’t recognize (it’s me) in regards to who does my translations…

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  525. 537 Skyhawk 008 May 1, 2008 at 9:26 am

    Bring it on, Green weenie. :mrgreen:

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  526. 538 morpheus45 May 1, 2008 at 9:31 am

    Hey, that was a long time ago and she told me she was…hey, how’d you know, anyway? Whatever happened to “What happened in Vegas stays in Vegas?”

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  527. 539 Carolina Lady May 1, 2008 at 9:38 am

    ‘Morning, Salty! Sorry, I don’t know why it picks on certain people at times. It went through a phase where it wouldn’t let FGB post at all. Nothing! It seems to go address by address. I try to keep check on it, but from about 0600 – 0930 I’m really busy and don’t have time until my morning coffee break. Hang in there, my friend! I’ll keep de-spamming it! 😀

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  528. 540 morpheus45 May 1, 2008 at 9:40 am

    Now I feel like and idiot. Time for breakfast and a nap.

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  529. 541 Skyhawk 008 May 1, 2008 at 9:40 am

    😀

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  530. 542 Skyhawk 008 May 1, 2008 at 9:47 am

    Grincher; Your shot-across-my-bow must have gotten caught up in my filter, this time. Believe me, if I knew how I would let it out. But, unfortunately, I am not the computer whiz that Dalai Mama is. Best try to get it through wordpress.

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  531. 543 Skyhawk 008 May 1, 2008 at 9:58 am

    Oh, I scrolled up and found it.

    Wassup, Bubba? 😛

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  532. 544 Salty May 1, 2008 at 10:17 am

    Hey, Greenie! Funny video. I’m sending it along to my family…they’re Jewish! 😆

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  533. 545 Salty May 1, 2008 at 10:19 am

    CL…thanks for ‘unclogging’ me! I’ll try to post at appropriate times…aka, when you’re on. You don’t need a high maintenance B&Ser, like whatshizface!

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  534. 546 Carolina Lady May 1, 2008 at 10:29 am

    *How To Photograph A New Puppy*

    1. Remove film from box and load camera.

    2. Remove film box from puppy’s mouth and throw in trash.

    3. Remove puppy from trash and brush coffee grounds from muzzle.

    4. Choose a suitable background for photo.

    5. Mount camera on tripod and focus.

    6. Find puppy and take dirty sock from mouth.

    7. Place puppy in pre-focused spot and return to camera.

    8. Forget about spot and crawl after puppy on knees.

    9. Focus with one hand and fend off puppy with other hand.

    10. Get tissue and clean nose print from lens.

    11. Put cat outside and put peroxide on the scratch on puppy’s nose.

    13. Put magazines back on coffee table.

    14. Try to get puppy’s attention by squeaking toy over your head.

    15. Replace your glasses and check camera for damage.

    16. Jump up in time to grab puppy by scruff of neck and say, “No, outside! No, outside!”

    17. Clean up mess.

    18. Sit back in chair with lemonade and resolve to teach puppy “sit” and “stay” the first thing in the morning.

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  535. 547 Skyhawk 008 May 1, 2008 at 10:29 am

    Salty doesn’t eat pork? Probably puts sugar on his grits, too. 😛

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  536. 548 Skyhawk 008 May 1, 2008 at 10:31 am

    Substitute “Grinch” for “puppy” and it’s topical. 😆

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  537. 549 Skyhawk 008 May 1, 2008 at 10:37 am

    I’ve got to go down to the SS office and beg for handouts. Later.

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  538. 550 flbravesgirl May 1, 2008 at 10:39 am

    Good morning y’all. Salty, don’t worry about it. The filter hated me for a couple of days too.

    CL, 😆 Now a cat would just turn the other way & ignore you. Always had to sneak up on mine to get pics.

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  539. 551 Carolina Lady May 1, 2008 at 10:45 am

    Good morning, FBG! You’re right! Or they (cats) just give you that do-it-and-die look. 😆

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  540. 552 flbravesgirl May 1, 2008 at 10:48 am

    Or close their eyes & let out a long-suffering sigh, like they’re saying “oh just get it over & leave me alone for my nap”.

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  541. 553 Salty May 1, 2008 at 10:50 am

    LOOK, PalaFalHawk! Sugar on grits, ain’t grits! Stick that in your intake and suck on it! Also, ‘they’re’ isn’t ‘me’, as in they are, and I’m not! So, I can eat pork (outside the house!). Thus concludes today’s lesson on “The Life of Salty”! 😆

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  542. 554 Salty May 1, 2008 at 10:51 am

    FBG…it’s, “I need to wake up and eat before my nap”! 🙂 Rather like PalaFalHawk008, you know? 😛

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  543. 555 flbravesgirl May 1, 2008 at 10:54 am

    Yeah, my cats took approximately 20 naps a day.

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  544. 556 flbravesgirl May 1, 2008 at 11:01 am

    It’s funny to go to a zoo & see your avatar, Salty, & other big cats because they act exactly like housecats. Maybe all cats think they’re lions & tigers.

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  545. 557 Salty May 1, 2008 at 11:33 am

    Attitude is everything! Gotta love it. A book my kids loved when they were ‘wee ones’: I May be Small, but I Act Tall! That’s a cat; always exude confidence…never show you’re afraid, unless you can outrun the enemy, then it doesn’t matter!

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  546. 558 Skyhawk 008 May 1, 2008 at 11:34 am

    Just got back to see Salty came out from under the porch and snarled while I was gone. It is informative, however, to know that he is a Tigger who thinks he is a housecat. Sort of like the Auburn Tigger that thinks he’s a bird.

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  547. 559 flbravesgirl May 1, 2008 at 11:39 am

    We’re Pooh characters now? Who does that make you, great-uncle?

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  548. 560 Skyhawk 008 May 1, 2008 at 11:41 am

    Great-uncle Poo Poo.

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  549. 561 flbravesgirl May 1, 2008 at 11:43 am

    Not really what I meant but…. whatever you say. 😆

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  550. 562 Salty May 1, 2008 at 11:44 am

    Great-uncle Poo Poo.
    Far be it for me to argue with my esteemed elders! I have far too much respect for that!

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  551. 563 Skyhawk 008 May 1, 2008 at 11:48 am

    When my kids were wee-wee ones, I taught them that it was OK to get your azz whipped just as long as the same guy, or gal, didn’t do it twice. Some jobs require a bigger stick…or rock.

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  552. 564 Salty May 1, 2008 at 11:49 am

    It’s only a mistake the first time; thereafter, it’s ‘and idiot’!

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  553. 565 Voice of Raisins May 1, 2008 at 12:03 pm
  554. 566 Voice of Raisins May 1, 2008 at 12:32 pm

    And, for Skyladin: Wassup!

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  555. 567 flbravesgirl May 1, 2008 at 12:45 pm

    Hi, VOR!

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  556. 568 Skyhawk 008 May 1, 2008 at 12:49 pm

    I love it, Raisins! Just a bunch of wild and crazy guys. And as I said the other day, they actually pay us to do that.

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  557. 569 Voice of Raisins May 1, 2008 at 12:51 pm

    Oh, well… alone again

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  558. 570 Voice of Raisins May 1, 2008 at 12:52 pm

    Or not!!! Howdy!!!

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  559. 571 Skyhawk 008 May 1, 2008 at 12:54 pm

    Two crows sitting on a powerline when an F14 comes over, lights his burners, and climbs out of sight. One crow says to the other one, “Man, I wish I could do that!” The other one says, “If you had two a–h—- and both were on fire, I bet you could!”

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  560. 572 flbravesgirl May 1, 2008 at 1:02 pm

    Sorry, guys. Shopping online for Mother’s Day. I ordered a pink tool belt.

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  561. 573 Skyhawk 008 May 1, 2008 at 1:03 pm

    Raisins; In all due respect, isn’t it time for an avatar change? The present one looks too much like a pervert peeking over the bathroom window sill. 🙄

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  562. 574 Voice of Raisins May 1, 2008 at 1:08 pm

    I had to work pretty hard to place Mr. Bean’s face on Jeff Francoeur’s headshot (alot of photo shop editing), then crop it to look like my last avatar with a hat on…

    So you’re telling me you ready for something different?

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  563. 575 Skyhawk 008 May 1, 2008 at 1:11 pm

    What-some-ever. Just jerking on your chain.

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  564. 576 flbravesgirl May 1, 2008 at 1:11 pm

    The eyes are a tad creepy.

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  565. 577 Voice of Raisins May 1, 2008 at 1:12 pm

    Edit: So you’re telling me you are ready for something different?

    ( I sounded like JerseyGil for a second… )

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  566. 578 Skyhawk 008 May 1, 2008 at 1:14 pm

    You couldn’t possibly mangle syntax like J. Gil, if you tried and tried. 😛

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  567. 579 Voice of Raisins May 1, 2008 at 1:16 pm

    Yeah, but we miss him, don’t we?

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  568. 580 flbravesgirl May 1, 2008 at 1:17 pm

    Be nice, guys. Remember it’s his second language.

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  569. 581 Skyhawk 008 May 1, 2008 at 1:20 pm

    Don’t be school-marmish, Great-niece. We wouldn’t do it if he was here and besides we are funnin’.

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  570. 582 Voice of Raisins May 1, 2008 at 1:23 pm

    We know it’s his second language; that’s what makes it fun. If it was his primary language, it’d just be sad…

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  571. 583 flbravesgirl May 1, 2008 at 1:26 pm

    I need more emoticons, say one that sticks out its tongue & does a raspberry.

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  572. 584 Voice of Raisins May 1, 2008 at 1:28 pm

    Mmmm… raspberry cake, maybe? Need my address?

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  573. 585 Skyhawk 008 May 1, 2008 at 1:29 pm

    Once in Vietnam a contemporary of mine was having difficulty communicating with a S. Viet officer. He turned away and mumbled, “Damn slope-head”. The CO looked up from some papers he was reviewing and said, “Well Lt., why not try communicating with him in his language.” The next few minutes in that bunker was the quietest period I experienced in Vietnam.

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  574. 586 flbravesgirl May 1, 2008 at 1:32 pm

    Raspberry-filled lemon buttercream torte. Can be filled with strawberry too. One of my best cakes, IMHO.

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  575. 587 Skyhawk 008 May 1, 2008 at 1:33 pm

    I think FBG wants to communicate to me that I’m “No. 1”, but in a lady-like manner. 😛

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  576. 588 Voice of Raisins May 1, 2008 at 1:35 pm

    FBG: I think I gained weight just reading that… 😯

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  577. 589 flbravesgirl May 1, 2008 at 1:35 pm

    Take back “school-marmish” and we’ll be set.

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  578. 590 Voice of Raisins May 1, 2008 at 1:36 pm

    So… when are you opening shop in Rabun? It’s just a short one hour drive from Jefferson… 😀

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  579. 591 Salty May 1, 2008 at 1:36 pm

    Lady-like fashion, of course! Saying you’re #1…I doubt it! 😛

    VOR…Mr. Bean is good…stick with him! I think I posted some videos just for you the other day, but they probably got hung up on the trap! 😦

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  580. 592 flbravesgirl May 1, 2008 at 1:38 pm

    Thank you, Salty.

    VOR, at this point we’re planning to move up at the end of the year. Not as soon as we had hoped but nothing’s moving on the housing market down here.

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  581. 593 Skyhawk 008 May 1, 2008 at 1:39 pm

    I’m going in and gum my soup and hit the pillow to dream of when I was mobile – hostile – and virile. My batting average on those 3 right now, is well below the mendoza line. 😦

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  582. 594 Voice of Raisins May 1, 2008 at 1:40 pm

    Hi, Salty. Too late on Mr. Bean… the change has already been made.
    Just waiting on WordPress to do it’s thing. 🙄

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  583. 595 flbravesgirl May 1, 2008 at 1:41 pm

    4 layers of white cake, filled thickly with raspberry or strawberry preserves, covered in homemade lemon buttercream. Much requested for birthdays. Ready to help me carry boxes up there yet? 😉

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  584. 597 Voice of Raisins May 1, 2008 at 1:43 pm

    :mrgreen:

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  585. 598 Skyhawk 008 May 1, 2008 at 1:43 pm

    Depends on which finger you use, Salty. In your case, it would unquestionably be the middle one. Later.

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  586. 599 flbravesgirl May 1, 2008 at 1:43 pm

    I wouldn’t know about the other two but you can still manage to be hostile at times, great-uncle. Sweet dreams. 🙂

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  587. 600 Salty May 1, 2008 at 1:44 pm

    Well…my last post got hung by the filter again…it’s a very good article in the AJC on Gonzo. Worth the read…quite a guy, with a strong family support system.

    VOR…I see your ‘pup’…quite a schnozz! (Can say that? Guess we’ll see!)

    FBG…always here for ya! 🙂

    Pal…gum your soup? 😯 Oh, My! 😆

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  588. 601 Salty May 1, 2008 at 1:49 pm

    http://www.accessatlanta.com/music/content/music/stories/2008/05/01/pickler_0502.html

    I know this is going in the filter for a while…hopefully you’ll see it later today. This is my kids’ high school. A big reason they one is due to one enterprising student who programmed his computer to send a text message repeatedly for some period of time. Apparently he was responsible for over a 100K text messages himself! Now, that’s school spirit! 😆

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  589. 603 flbravesgirl May 1, 2008 at 1:50 pm

    That one worked, Salty.

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  590. 604 Salty May 1, 2008 at 1:52 pm

    VOR…what a great line: “Are we fat?” “No, dear, we’re simply bigger than life itself!” Too funny! 😆

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  591. 605 Voice of Raisins May 1, 2008 at 1:54 pm

    Wow, nice picture of Pickler. 😯

    Um… no, I better say no more. I can feel myself getting in trouble already… 😀

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  592. 606 flbravesgirl May 1, 2008 at 1:54 pm

    Good for them! I predict a bright future in the IT business for that clever young man.

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  593. 607 Salty May 1, 2008 at 1:55 pm

    It did, FBG! I feel so…liberated…and clean! :mrgreen: (Still have one in the trap, though, but CL will grab it later when she ‘takes out the trash’! 😆 )

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  594. 608 Voice of Raisins May 1, 2008 at 1:55 pm

    I still love the Animaniacs… 😆

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  595. 609 Salty May 1, 2008 at 1:59 pm

    The big reason they ‘one’? 😕 😯 And I consider myself edumacated? Have to rethink that…I know 008 will!

    Yeah, bright future indeed…although he didn’t do it for Kelly. My daughter says he’s solidly gay.

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  596. 610 Salty May 1, 2008 at 2:00 pm

    KELLY! KELLY! KELLY!
    ^
    ^
    ^
    ^
    I hope his back is better…gonna need his bat tomorrow night! Gotcha, FBG! 😛

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  597. 611 Voice of Raisins May 1, 2008 at 2:01 pm

    My daughter says he’s solidly gay. 😆 😆 😆

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  598. 612 Voice of Raisins May 1, 2008 at 2:02 pm

    Y’all seeing the dog? I still get Mr. Bean. 😕

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  599. 613 flbravesgirl May 1, 2008 at 2:04 pm

    Aww, look at your pup! He looks like he’s smiling. Yours, VOR, or just a found image?

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  600. 614 Salty May 1, 2008 at 2:04 pm

    Well…now I see the dog, but it was Bean a sec ago…it’s the WordPress schizo thing.

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  601. 615 flbravesgirl May 1, 2008 at 2:05 pm

    It just changed for me.

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  602. 616 Voice of Raisins May 1, 2008 at 2:07 pm

    Well, the picture should look like this:

    http://www.lilligren.com/Redneck/redneck_dog.htm

    but it loses something when shrunk the size of a butter bean.

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  603. 617 Voice of Raisins May 1, 2008 at 2:09 pm

    And, no, it isn’t my pooch…

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  604. 618 flbravesgirl May 1, 2008 at 2:09 pm

    Ooookaaay. He’s a lot cuter small when you can’t see the teeth.

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  605. 619 Salty May 1, 2008 at 2:09 pm

    I see…so let me get this right: if you shrink the head, it straightens the teeth? 😯

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  606. 620 Voice of Raisins May 1, 2008 at 2:11 pm

    Yes. It’s called micro-aspect-orthodontistry. There’s a big future in it. Well, maybe not…

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  607. 621 flbravesgirl May 1, 2008 at 2:14 pm

    Maybe in England. They don’t seem to believe in braces.

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  608. 622 Voice of Raisins May 1, 2008 at 2:18 pm

    How appropriate:

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  609. 623 flbravesgirl May 1, 2008 at 2:28 pm

    Time to get some stuff done. See y’all later.

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  610. 624 Voice of Raisins May 1, 2008 at 2:35 pm

    Same…

    Later, taters!

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  611. 625 Bronchitis BeRiGaN May 1, 2008 at 3:11 pm

    Salty, I just hope Gonzo doesn’t push himself too much. Liriano for the Twins has been sent back down and he missed all of last year, and is younger too. But, if he comes back strong, I ain’t gonna complain, honest! 😉

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  612. 626 flbravesgirl May 1, 2008 at 3:19 pm

    Good article on Gonzo. Thanks, Salty. I hope he doesn’t have any setbacks now, we need all the help we can get.

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  613. 627 Skyhawk 008 May 1, 2008 at 3:32 pm

    WICHITA FALLS, Texas (AP) – Military authorities say two pilots have died in a jet crash at Sheppard Air Force base.

    A public affairs spokeswoman says a high-altitude, supersonic T-38c Talon went down about 7:45 a.m. Thursday. The plane was assigned to the 80th Flying Training Wing, which trains combat pilots for NATO.

    Yes, unfortunately, this happens too. But, if it wasn’t for this, everyone would want to do it.

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  614. 628 flbravesgirl May 1, 2008 at 3:53 pm

    Sorry to hear that, uncle.

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  615. 629 Skyhawk 008 May 1, 2008 at 4:31 pm

    Did I sound callous, niece? I hope not. It is just part of the “game”, but you never think it will happen to you. It you do, you should get out, and some do. Unfortunately, these two guys never thought it would happen to them. RIP.

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  616. 630 Skyhawk 008 May 1, 2008 at 4:50 pm

    I’ll be back later and then let’s talk some baseball. But, that from a Braves standpoint, is a bit of a tragedy too.

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  617. 631 Hillbilly May 1, 2008 at 4:53 pm

    Don’t know why I thought of this, but those of you with Sports South will know what I’m talking about: ….The Georgia Lottery commercial where the annoying white dude is trying to make black lottery winner believe that he’s his long lost twin brother……Makes me want to run my head through the sheetrock walls in my house. Most annoying commercial I’ve seen since the “Vee-Dub/pimp your auto” crap. O.K. carry on.

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  618. 632 williamwallace May 1, 2008 at 4:54 pm

    [audio src="http://www.eitmonline.com/eitmonline2/media/eitmlive/nats.mp3" /]

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  619. 633 Skyhawk 008 May 1, 2008 at 5:01 pm

    HB; I agree! It appears that they choose the most annoying people they can find to “star” in commercials.

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  620. 634 Skyhawk 008 May 1, 2008 at 5:04 pm

    But, IMHO the most annoying commercials of all are the automobile ones where they shout at you the whole time. I have to make sure that there are no objects close to me(other than the remote)that I can throw at the screen.

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  621. 635 Skyhawk 008 May 1, 2008 at 5:13 pm

    The Braves are off today/tonight. We will still probably lose by one run.

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  622. 636 Skyhawk 008 May 1, 2008 at 5:15 pm

    I ought to know better than to post at this time of day. Apparently, it is cocktail hour. Speaking of…

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  623. 637 Gil in Mechanicsville May 1, 2008 at 5:34 pm

    Lessons that stayed with me during my years in Rescue given in reference to fighter planes involved in crashes.

    1. Never look for the survivors to be with the plane.

    2. If the pilot is with the plane, he is probably not a survivor.

    3. DON”T TOUCH ANYTHING….. Nothing can ruin your day faster than an ejection seat firing off when you are leaning over the cockpit.

    4. Pilots get real P.O.ed when the life raft deploys while they are still in the plane.

    And by the way… 008.. The joke about the two crows was a real keeper. Thanks for that one… 🙂

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  624. 638 Bronchitis BeRiGaN May 1, 2008 at 5:42 pm

    Hillbilly, I’d gladly watch the Lottery ad 1000 times(And probably have) than that Pepsi Max ad from last year, one more time! 😡

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  625. 639 Bronchitis BeRiGaN May 1, 2008 at 7:11 pm

    I know we are likely going to need another starter, but I do worry about who we might trade away to get one…