48: An Observation from an Interested Spectator

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By Gil

MECHANICSVILLE, VA – As we approach the magic one third mark of the season, most major league teams take stock of their situation to see where they stand as far as personnel and what is needed going forward. Often times this is the time when teams decide if they are buyers or sellers and if they have a chance to be serious contenders or view the likelihood of being an also ran and begin building for the next season.

The 2008 version of the Atlanta Braves had reason to believe they were a team with which to vie for the National League East and even a possible shot at returning to the World Series. Good pitching depth and a strong offensive line up was in evidence. The Braves only apparent weakness was a lack of bench strength. Funny how the wheels began to fall off even before the start of the season.

John Smoltz began the season on the DL with what we now know as likely a career ending injury. Perhaps we should think back to the night he pitched magnificently against the Astros in the Braves last appearance in the NL playoffs and a shirtless Smoltz revealed a tremendous amount of bleeding around his right shoulder. For him to pitch the past two years has been a testament to his grit but the ravages of time have apparently taken their toll and it seems to many that John has made his last pitch as a major leaguer.

Mike Hampton was never really counted on this year like he was in 2007 but all seemed ready for the stoic lefty to finally justify the $13 million due to him this year. Alas, it was not to be, another freak injury claimed him and who knows if he will ever pitch again effectively although the return of even a mildly capable Mike Hampton could yet salvage the season for the Braves.

Chuck James went down early. Never a pitcher with a large repertoire of baffling pitches to keep opposing batters off balance, his inability to keep pitches down combined with a diminished speed deferential between his fastball and his change up, he began giving up homeruns at an alarming rate. This led to his demotion back to AAA Richmond and a mind set that he has to reinvent himself as a pitcher.

The cause of Tom Glavin’s woes have finally surfaced: a sore elbow. Who else besides me sees this as a deal breaker for a 41 year old pitcher who has been know as an innings eater throughout his career? It also explains the loss of movement on his pitches and to me may be the harbinger of a season to forget for the Bravos.

The loss of Peter Moylan and the limited availability of Soriano have also put a tremendous strain on the Braves’ bullpen. There is a correlation between the effectiveness of a team’s bullpen and the number of innings they are forced to pitch. Manny Acosta is just not capable of pitching everyday and I don’t think any other pitcher on the Braves staff is either.

So, what do you have when 4/5th of your projected starting staff and three of your most effective relievers are out with injuries? A club that more closely resembles the Washington Nationals than one that resembles the Philadelphia Phillies. The Braves cannot afford to slip much further behind the front runners if they expect to have a chance this year but counting on young pitchers like Charlie Morton to come to the rescue may be placing too much of a burden on a young rookie who is only now finding success. Steve Avery comes to mind when making a comparison of expectations by the Braves Nation and the likelihood he will struggle in his début season.


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586 Responses to “48: An Observation from an Interested Spectator”

  1. 1 Carolina Lady June 11, 2008 at 2:03 pm

    Right on point, Gil! Thanks very much! Good job!


  2. 2 Carolina Lady June 11, 2008 at 2:05 pm

    Posted by scribe on last blog:

    ssiscribe Says:
    June 11, 2008 at 1:47 pm

    NO JURRJENS TONIGHT: According to Braves.Com, Jair Jurrjens hurt his ankle leaving Wrigley Field last night:


    Jeff Bennett will start in place of Jurrjens. Just posted something short on http://braves.today.com about Bennett taking Jurrjens’ place … Bennett hasn’t started since April 23, but has pitched well out of the bullpen for the most part.

    Geez, folks, can it get any worse? Not exactly the way to start the road trip.



  3. 3 Carolina Lady June 11, 2008 at 2:10 pm

    “I feel like I’m in the twilight zone,” Braves general manager Frank Wren said. “I’m going to be like Pavlov’s dog and have an aversion to phones ringing.”

    Wren confirmed that Charlie Morton, who has gone 4-2 with a 2.05 ERA for Triple-A Richmond, will likely start in Glavine’s place on Sunday, when the Braves play the Angels before ESPN’s nationally-televised audience.

    “I think it’s more than likely [going to be Morton],” Wren said. “But we haven’t made a decision.”



  4. 4 Carolina Lady June 11, 2008 at 2:12 pm

    Who’s up next??


  5. 5 Carolina Lady June 11, 2008 at 2:15 pm

    Gil, at ST, I really felt good about this team and felt that they honestly had a good chance to do really well this year. Now? Not so much…. 😦


  6. 6 Berigan 3, part 3, in 3-D June 11, 2008 at 2:37 pm

    Right you are Gil! Sadly, we are closer to the Nationals, than the Phils. I felt watching the games against them the way I did when we played AL teams last June, that we were not in the same league(pun not intended, honest!) with those teams!

    Can’t blame it all on the manager, and coaching staff of course(And now with scribe posting that Jurrjens will miss a start because of spraining his ankle!!!) But, look at a team like the Cardinals. No one thought they would do well this year, heck the Pirates look to have had a more talented team 1-9 than them.
    But, there the cards are, without their number one all year, Chris Carpenter . Their version of Hampton, Mark Mulder hasn’t pitched all year. I see they also have Matt Clement listed as a pitcher on their roster. Hasn’t pitched for them. Name their starters on their team right now! I double dog dare ya! Ok, we all know Wainwright, right??? Heck, he just went on the DL.
    And they are 12 games above .500.

    How about a team like the Giants??? Everyone and their brother (Including me) knew they were going to lose at least 100 games, and would be way back in last place.
    Instead, they are in 3rd place, 6 games back. Who expected that??? Oh well, they have all those great pitchers. Like Matt Cain, 3-4, 4.43 ERA. Hmmm. Barry Zito, 2-9 5.83 ERA. Pat Misch, 0-3, 6.07 ERA….who are their great hitters???

    Got to give a fair about of credit to the Cards and Giants records to their managers, and their coaches….got to give a fair amout of blame to the braves poor play to their manager and his coaches….


  7. 7 Pappy June 11, 2008 at 2:38 pm

    Lead – follow – or get out of the way. Circling the wagons is not an option.


  8. 8 Berigan 3, part 3, in 3-D June 11, 2008 at 3:24 pm

    Did everyone else have the page here get a bit….wacky? Very wide….I almost thought wordpress had made “improvements”

    Off to bank, and other stuff….exciting stuff…yep, exciting. 🙄

    Keep ’em in line Pappy! :mrgreen:


  9. 9 Pappy June 11, 2008 at 3:50 pm

    “Men, we got ’em just where we want them. They have us surrounded so we can attack in all directions”. Marine Col. Chesty Puller to his commanders when his badly outnumbered force was surrounded by a Zillion Chinks at Chosin Reservoir. He didn’t shoot any one’s rifle, or throw any grenades. He knew they were trained to do a job and he called on them to do it. They got out with relatively few casualties while inflicting many.

    “Where in the XXXX did all the Indians come from?” George Custer to the 7th Cavalry at Little Big Horn. These were well-trained, seasoned troops but poorly led. They didn’t get out.

    Don’t tell me that leadership doesn’t count!


  10. 10 Voice of Raisins June 11, 2008 at 4:04 pm

    Nice lead, Gil…

    I just walked back in from today’s excursion.

    I just caught the news.

    I’m numb…

    😐 😐 😕 😕 :): :): 😐 😐 :(: :(: 😥 😥


  11. 11 Voice of Raisins June 11, 2008 at 4:05 pm

    Dang! I’m so bumfuzzled , I can’t even do that right!!


  12. 12 Voice of Raisins June 11, 2008 at 4:06 pm

    Lemm try that again:

    😐 😐 😕 😕 🙂 🙂 😐 😐 😦 😦 😥 😥


  13. 13 Pappy June 11, 2008 at 4:13 pm

    Raisins; Now see if you can make triangles out of them. No, finish your juice first.


  14. 14 Voice of Raisins June 11, 2008 at 4:45 pm

    I’m going to church and pray for the Braves. I’ll talk to y’all later…


  15. 15 Berigan 3, part 3, in 3-D June 11, 2008 at 5:01 pm

    Just read the newest DOB blog….since he says a lot of things I have said myself, it seemed pretty good to me! 😉

    He did mention that Brandon Jones has been called up! I didn’t think his numbers were that good earlier, but haven’t checked in awhile. Gil, any thoughts???

    All I know, is last year he looked like he had the swing of a power hitter. Can he play right field???


  16. 16 Berigan 3, part 3, in 3-D June 11, 2008 at 5:05 pm

    2 Hr’s 20 RBI’s .258 Average, 47 strikeouts in 178 AB’s….he’s the left handed Frenchy!!!! 😆


  17. 17 Pappy June 11, 2008 at 5:08 pm

    Sssssh Berigan; Raisins is praying.


  18. 18 Voice of Raisins June 11, 2008 at 5:11 pm

    I’m praying LLLLOOOOUUUUDDDD!!!!

    They need it.



  19. 19 Gil in Mechanicsville June 11, 2008 at 5:11 pm

    Yes Berigan, the Cardinals have done a wonderful job with the smoke and mirrors but it was last year they were bitten the terrible injury bug. They have regrouped but I doubt they will catch the Cubs this year. The Giants went through an awful spell at the beginning of the season. Their young pitching is carrying them now but they are not going to win the West this year either.

    I am not a stanch Bobby Cox defender but I remember when guys like Chuck Tanner and Russ Nixon were managing the Braves.

    Yes, at some point a change will be made but it is the players who must answer the bell. Is Clint Hurdle a bad manager because the Rockies have gone to first to worse or it because they are missing guys like Holliday?


  20. 20 Gil in Mechanicsville June 11, 2008 at 5:14 pm

    Brandon has some pop and he can play either corner outfield position. He is a bit older now and I think the stars might not be in his eyes any longer. Question… who’s spot is he taking?


  21. 21 Pappy June 11, 2008 at 5:33 pm

    One of my favorite managers of all time was Ralph Houk. Yes, he managed the hated Yankees but he, himself, was a hero. As an Army Ranger he won the Silver Star, Bronze Star and Purple Heart. As a manager, he won 2 World Series. Yes, he had Mantle, Berra, Marris, Ford, etc. but he “handled” them. All of them got their butt chewed at one time. In the minors he once kicked Tommy Lasorda in the posterior(for this alone he should have won the Medal of Honor). Allegedly, in ST he said, “You know what we are here to do. Any one who doesn’t think they can do their job, I’ll put someone in that can, or wants to. Any questions?” Lasorda btw, called him the greatest handler of men he ever saw. Say what you will about Lasorda, he was pretty good himself.


  22. 22 Berigan 3, part 3, in 3-D June 11, 2008 at 5:34 pm

    Gil, I know what your saying…I too recall Chuck Tanner(Won a WS with the Pirates, couldn’t do anything with the braves) I just see far too many mistakes from the Manager. Mistakes I could understand from a new manager, not a guy who should have forgotten more about baseball than most of us know…perhaps he has!

    Of course, like you said, all of the sudden, Clint Hurdle doesn’t look too bright, with their record.

    I think Jurrjens ankle problem might be a blessing in disguise, a little rest for his arm, and he will pitch like the Jurrjens of earlier in the year….


  23. 23 Berigan 3, part 3, in 3-D June 11, 2008 at 5:50 pm

    Pappy, right you are about Lasorda! 2 world series rings, and that team from 1988 had to be the worst hitting team ever to play, and win a world series!

    And don’t forget….

    2000 Summer Olympics
    Lasorda came out of retirement to manage the United States team at the 2000 Summer Olympics in Sydney. He led the Americans to the gold medal, beating heavily favored Cuba, which had won the gold medals at the two previous Olympics.


  24. 24 Pappy June 11, 2008 at 5:56 pm

    All of you TP for manager types consider this. What are his credentials? A good, fiery ballplayer, you say. Ted Williams was one of the greatest, if not the greatest, ballplayer of all time. Ted Williams as a manager isn’t in the top 100.


  25. 25 Berigan 3, part 3, in 3-D June 11, 2008 at 6:36 pm

    You know things are really weird when this happens!!! 😯

    From DOB…

    here’s a head-scratcher ROSTER MOVE: Josh Anderson was sent back to Richmond and Brandon Jones brought up. No one I talked to could make any sense of that move. Cox said they just thought they could play Jones some in LF and let Norton give Tex a break at 1B for some interleague games, so Tex could DH possibly.

    But that didn’t explain the move, of course, because Anderson plays LF (and CF and RF). Several folks I talked to felt Anderson didn’t deserve to be sent down. Anderson told me he was shocked and disappointed, but he’s such a nice guy he said he appreciated the opportunity and that God has a plan for him and that something good’s going to happen, all that.

    I really feel sorry for Anderson, why the bleep send him down and keep Frenchy on the club????


  26. 26 Savannah Guy June 11, 2008 at 6:52 pm

    Gil, very good lead. A perfect storm it has been and every day a new ‘rain squall’ arrives in the form of another injury. Per the article, I’m sure Wren doesn’t even want to pick up his phone in the mornings. It’s bizarre… the strangest set of circumstances I’ve ever witnessed.

    I’m not insinuating anything but you have to wonder if folks out there are jumping to conclusions about the ironic (suspicious) timing of the unprecedented rash of injuries this season, not just with Braves but around baseball. Is it an odd coincidence in the year of the steroid and HGH scandals with ramped up testing in the MLB that we would see so many injured players? I’ll not speculate, but it is strange to say the least. Makes you go, hmmm…


  27. 27 Savannah Guy June 11, 2008 at 7:00 pm

    Bear, Bobby-Ball is a head scratcher. He even scratches his own head. Maybe he’s surprised at his own decisions just like we are.

    REPORTER: Mr. Cox, why would you send Anderson down? He’s doing so well.

    BOBBY: Gee, I don’t know. I’m scratchin’ my head over that. Good Kid…

    REPORTER: But, with all due respect sir, YOU sent Josh down.

    BOBBY: Oh, I’m not Joshin’. Like I said, I’m scratchin’ my head over that one.



  28. 28 Berigan 3, part 3, in 3-D June 11, 2008 at 7:10 pm

    SG, did Mr. Fly file that report? 😉


  29. 29 Savannah Guy June 11, 2008 at 7:12 pm

    Pappy, you’ve been on a roll today. Good post at 12:41 and the one about the TP as manager thing. Oh, and Casey Stengel… loved the guy, what a character.

    I’m with you on going out of house for a new manager. Of course that may take a while because Bobby and the franchise, for their own reasons, want to lengthen the job and ‘institution’ of Bobby Cox. Both parties have financial, personal and sentimental reasons for continuing as long as possible, regardless of how the team is being managed or how they do in the standings.

    Oh, and Liberty is probably just fine with it too, so I don’t expect the 2009 extension to be the last Cox is offered unless there is a new owner that wants to win or a circumstance that would cause or force the retirement. Obviously that’s me just guessing.

    Some of you guys have mentioned Eddie Perez or Terry Pendleton as manager, bench coach, whatever. I just don’t see that. He’s a likeable guy but where are his credentials? Where’s the experience? The training? Sure, a non-trained manager can become a good manager but it’s a guess as to how long it’ll take or how they’ll eventually succeed.

    We’ve already got a good ‘ol boy network going on in Atlanta with Terry, Eddie, Chino, Glenn, Brian, Roger, Bobby, Frank and John. In spite of what we see (and interpret) on TV close-ups and snippets and read on blogs, which of our current coaches is doing a great job and getting results? Which are not? Which are too old, too inexperienced, too entrenched in Bobby-Ball to achieve positive results in spite of this year’s distractions, dysfunction and injuries? It’s impossible to tell from the outside looking in and impossible to gauge with the circumstances as they’ve unfolded this season.

    How do we separate out one coach and pre-judge their capabilities and effectiveness if they are all under the instruction of Cox?

    There are so many intangibles and overlapping factors in the current Braves organization for any outsider to base an opinion on facts or evidence, but I do know this: promoting someone because they are an ex-player, clubhouse favorite and all around nice guy who happens to have no appropriate experience in coaching – much less managing – is risky, potentially disastrous and just a very bad idea. But that hasn’t stopped the current regime.

    Talented players, even the nice ones that are passionate about the game, don’t necessarily have the skill set to become talented coaches or managers. It’s not a matter of incompetence or a lack of intelligence I’m talking about with anyone, it’s area of expertise and manager or coach levels of competence.

    Peter has a ‘Principle’ and a very hard glass ceiling for matters such as these.


  30. 30 Savannah Guy June 11, 2008 at 7:15 pm

    Why, yes… Mr. Fly jumped in there and filed that snippet. How could you tell? 😆


  31. 31 Berigan 3, part 3, in 3-D June 11, 2008 at 7:17 pm

    SG, funny isn’t it….the guy with no real ties to the braves, Roger McDowell, probably is our best coach????


  32. 32 Berigan 3, part 3, in 3-D June 11, 2008 at 7:20 pm

    SG, I could tell because the questioned asked were harder than any Bobby has gotten since he was with the Blue Jays!!!


  33. 33 Berigan 3, part 3, in 3-D June 11, 2008 at 7:25 pm

    questions asked….good gravy…I’d be saying if I had any good gravy….


  34. 34 Savannah Guy June 11, 2008 at 7:34 pm

    funny isn’t it….the guy with no real ties to the braves, Roger McDowell, probably is our best coach????

    It’s funny alright… just one’a those pesky hierarchical organizational avoidance kind’a things. Roger was not ‘trained’ in Bobby-Ball. That’s good, although now he’s getting a crash course in musical chairs, rehab and occupational therapy.


  35. 35 Pappy June 11, 2008 at 7:58 pm

    If the original on this comes out of the filter, I apologize.

    Guys; Pitching coaches very seldom make good managers. Like wise hitting coaches. They are too focused on their own areas. Bench coaches, on the other hand, are frequently “promoted”. See where I am going with this? Scary!


  36. 36 Pappy June 11, 2008 at 8:09 pm

    I’ve posted more today than I have in “history”. Check it out. I hope I have given y’all something to chew on. Now, to “Sweet” Lou. When I lived in St. Pete Beach(where he has his off-season home)we shared the same “watering hole”. He is a very affable guy away from the field. But, when he is there he demands excellence from his players. What else should he demand?


  37. 37 Pappy June 11, 2008 at 8:17 pm

    Pappy has gone to bed. Time for the lemurs and leprechauns to come out of their holes. ‘Nite.


  38. 38 Savannah Guy June 11, 2008 at 8:27 pm

    Tess is not hitting nearly well enough to automatically take the first pitch every time he’s at the plate. Interesting to see a minute ago where Tess is leading and Fran is in the top (NL or MLB?) for having the most runners on during their AB’s. Most of those ducks were left on those ponds.

    Here we go… a 3-run jack by the Cubs. The crowd is cheering so loud you can barely hear that giant sucking sound in the Braves dugout.


  39. 39 Gil in Mechanicsville June 11, 2008 at 9:06 pm

    3rd inning and the game is over… Wife has referred to the team as a bunch of fall aparts…. 🙂


  40. 40 Gil in Mechanicsville June 11, 2008 at 9:07 pm

    Oh well, I have seen this before, 1989 anyone???


  41. 41 Gil in Mechanicsville June 11, 2008 at 9:08 pm

    The lovable losers who wear a glove for no apparent reason… Well, Kelly anyway..


  42. 42 chrisklob June 11, 2008 at 9:09 pm

    Hmmm. A lemur or leprechaun? I wonder which one Pappy thinks I am?


  43. 43 Carolina Lady June 11, 2008 at 9:11 pm

    I agree with Miss Josie!

    How can a bunch of people who are ‘supposed’ to be well-trained, well-conditioned athletes be so terribly injury-prone and inept???

    I just don’t remember this happening in the OLD years of the past.


  44. 44 Gil in Mechanicsville June 11, 2008 at 9:11 pm

    As long as you are not a leper..


  45. 45 Gil in Mechanicsville June 11, 2008 at 9:12 pm

    CL… I remember it all too well…


  46. 46 Gil in Mechanicsville June 11, 2008 at 9:15 pm

    There was a good reason Ted Turner could buy the franchise so cheap… they were a bad team….


  47. 47 Carolina Lady June 11, 2008 at 9:19 pm

    I meant back in the 40s, 50s, 60s, etc. Waaaaaay back. They just played.

    Yes, I well remember the early years of the ATL Braves. Bottom of the barrel-quality. 🙂


  48. 48 Carolina Lady June 11, 2008 at 9:21 pm

    Well, for one thing, they didn’t make outrageous paychecks then. They HAD to play – and usually had jobs in the off-season, as well. Makes a difference when you’re rolling in money and don’t have to, I guess. I’ve never been in that position so I’ve always had to keep at it regardless of how I felt! 😆


  49. 49 chrisklob June 11, 2008 at 9:38 pm

    In honor of the fallen members of the Braves staff, I have chosen a new avatar. Somebody call a medic!


  50. 50 chrisklob June 11, 2008 at 9:40 pm

    What’s with these home plate umps this year? No one has a clue where the strike zone is.

    I wonder if the Braves season qualifies for Red Cross relief. This season is a complete disaster.


  51. 51 Carolina Lady June 11, 2008 at 10:11 pm

    They need to set up a M.A.S.H. unit in the bullpen. Can Wren play?


  52. 52 Berigan 3, part 3, in 3-D June 11, 2008 at 10:44 pm

    Chris, didn’t VOR have a red cross before the M.A.S.H. avatar????

    Man, I was out, heard the 3 run homer, and knew, just knew the game was over. Pete said he figured he could get 5-6 innings out of Bennett….what is Bobby smokin’????

    I was lucky enough to catch a few innings at the gym…never seen a braves game at this gym(Just started going to it this year) didn’t know they got sports south…would catch this one….

    gave up on game, now I hear Corky corked one??? That’s like finding a 5 leaf clover, isn’t it???? 😆


  53. 53 Berigan 3, part 3, in 3-D June 11, 2008 at 10:51 pm

    man, I, really,really,like, commas,!


  54. 54 chrisklob June 11, 2008 at 10:51 pm

    Ber, I don’t know. He changes avatars faster than some guys change girlfriends! 😀


  55. 55 Berigan 3, part 3, in 3-D June 11, 2008 at 11:19 pm

    Man, terrible news! A boyscout camp in Nebraska has been hit by a tornado! At least 4 killed, 20 injured!


  56. 56 flbravesgirl June 12, 2008 at 12:15 am

    Good evening y’all. Can we say “freefall”? Is Kelly developing a fielding yip?


  57. 57 flbravesgirl June 12, 2008 at 12:19 am

    SG, I brought up Eddie as a potential manager at some point in the future . Not now, he doesn’t have the experience. And I’m dubious about TP.


  58. 58 Berigan 3, part 3, in 3-D June 12, 2008 at 12:24 am

    FLB, I was just getting into the car and heard someone made an error…figured it was Kelly…what did he do??? more than one???


  59. 59 flbravesgirl June 12, 2008 at 12:27 am

    2 of ’em, B. Just misplayed ground balls.


  60. 60 flbravesgirl June 12, 2008 at 12:29 am

    Actually I think one of them was scored a hit for Aramis Ramirez but it shouldn’t have been.


  61. 61 flbravesgirl June 12, 2008 at 12:34 am

    Before I forget, good job, Gil. I could wish that your assessment of the team was less accurate.


  62. 62 Berigan 3, part 3, in 3-D June 12, 2008 at 12:51 am

    Thanks for the 411…..


  63. 63 flbravesgirl June 12, 2008 at 1:00 am

    Good night y’all.


  64. 64 Savannah Guy June 12, 2008 at 8:49 am

    Gil, once again, I enjoyed your lead. Well, maybe ‘enjoy’ isn’t the right word with all the injuries discussed. It was good. Well, maybe that isn’t quite right either… might be sadistic to, you know, in light of all the DL’s. It was interesting and well done. Yeah, that’s more like it. Anyhoo, Meant to ask and plum forgot… by your header, “Observation from an Interested Observer”, I was just wondering:

    A. Are you implying that you’ve completed the transition from Braves fan to Washington fan? If so, that Richmond departure musta’ cut deep. Or…

    B. As you wrote, were you showing subtle displeasure with the Braves season?

    C. Just having fun with the use of ‘observe’ by using it twice in the headline?

    D. Accidentally copied and pasted ‘observer’ when you meant to paste ‘fan’?

    E. Your cat jumped on the keyboard and destroyed the ‘f’, ‘a’ and ‘n’ keys?

    F. Your thesaurus went on the blink right before copy deadline?

    G. CL screwed it up when she posted it? (can always blame the host).:mrgreen:

    H. None of the above, quit nit picking and mind my own damn business?

    Just an observation from a blog observer. 😆


  65. 65 Pappy June 12, 2008 at 9:40 am

    H. None of the above, quit nit picking and mind my own damn business?



  66. 66 Gil in Mechanicsville June 12, 2008 at 10:04 am

    Yes SG…. Maybe all of the above….

    After posting I also became aware of that age old error of using the same adjectives twice. It is why editors are employed. Of course I have the ability to change it but I think it makes things more interesting, kind of like watching Kelly play the field…

    At least with Washington, there were no lofty expectations. When you have a collection of misfit toys, you have to pretty much expect what you get.

    And yes, I am still bitter about the move to Gwinnett but as DOB reminded me. Nobody else cares so I have to get over it…. or not…

    And yes, everyone is still scratching their head on why Brando Jones was called up and Josh Anderson sent back down… Maybe Bobby wanted to check Brandon’s progress and did not want to wait until next year when he could drive up to Gwinnett.


  67. 67 Savannah Guy June 12, 2008 at 10:18 am

    Gil, sorry you feel that way about the Braves, but I understand. Absence doesn’t always make the heart grow fonder. Maybe pulling for two teams gives you a better chance of seeing the playoffs… but not this year with those two. 😀

    By the way… hope it was obvious I was just funnin’ on your headline. I like it. Nice play on words and such.


  68. 68 Gil in Mechanicsville June 12, 2008 at 10:19 am

    And an update from last night’s Richmond loss… I thought the cell phone problem was indicative…



  69. 69 Gil in Mechanicsville June 12, 2008 at 10:20 am

    SG… I never take it personal… Well, not from this group anyway…


  70. 70 flbravesgirl June 12, 2008 at 10:37 am

    Good morning y’all. Today’s game should be entertaining, if only for the 1948 unis. Can’t vouch for the level of play on the field. It was good to see Chipper get back in there though and I’m looking forward to see Charlie Morton Sat.

    (Just as I’m about to click submit, my computer decides to spontaneously run updates & loses the whole post. 🙄 Take 2! )


  71. 71 Hillbilly June 12, 2008 at 10:46 am

    Just out of curiosity, I looked through my old printable schedules from ’06 and ’07. (Shaddup, I haven’t cleaned out my desk drawer.) Here are the Braves records for the first two weeks of June:

    2006: 2-11

    2007: 5-9

    2008: 3-7 so far.

    The timing of these struggles comes as no suprise. What is it about June that shuts this team down?


  72. 72 flbravesgirl June 12, 2008 at 10:52 am

    Thanks, Hillbilly. Wonder why it seems so much worse this year? The way they’re losing them, maybe?


  73. 73 Voice of Raisins June 12, 2008 at 11:05 am

    G’morning Colossusans.

    I was headed out the door for another downtown trek this morning when I stepped funny out the front door and rolled my ankle. Now somebody else will have to make the trip for me. 😀

    Seriously, I do have a one day sabbatical from the big A, so I am back in my home office haven.

    Rather than begin to thrash the Braves for nother lackluster performance, I’d like to note something. Ber posted this in the midst of last night’s game:

    Berigan 3, part 3, in 3-D Says:
    June 11, 2008 at 11:19 pm

    Man, terrible news! A boyscout camp in Nebraska has been hit by a tornado! At least 4 killed, 20 injured!

    You know what? The Braves are just playing a game, albeit not very well right now. At the end of this season, regardless of where they finish, they’ll begin readying for next season. And so it goes for MLB. This tragedy in Iowa has finality. There are losses there that have no next season.

    I’ll continue to gripe and moan about the level of play from our boys in the road blue, but it really isn’t going to cause me distress. My heart is broken for the families of those kids killed and injured in Iowa.

    Sorry to be such a downer, but those tornadoes that ripped through the midwest yesterday are a great source of perspective for me.

    Now, I hope the Braves shed those blue unis and find a way to beat Zambrano tonight.


  74. 74 Voice of Raisins June 12, 2008 at 11:08 am

    From the Brandon Jones/Josh Anderson mystery:

    Perhaps they swapped Jones for Anderson because Jones can play RF? Just wonderin’…


  75. 75 Voice of Raisins June 12, 2008 at 11:09 am


  76. 76 Voice of Raisins June 12, 2008 at 11:10 am

    chrisklob Says:
    June 11, 2008 at 10:51 pm

    Ber, I don’t know. He changes avatars faster than some guys change girlfriends!

    I dunno. Some of my friends… uh, never mind…



  77. 77 Voice of Raisins June 12, 2008 at 11:11 am

    Can you tell I’ve missed being here? 😀


  78. 78 Pappy June 12, 2008 at 11:20 am

    Speaking of change(s)


    The buzzword of this election is ‘CHANGE’. Candidates toss it around without saying what they want to change to.

    Years ago, there was an old tale in the Marine Corps about a
    lieutenant who inspected his Marines and told the ‘Gunny’ that they smelled bad. The lieutenant suggested that they change their underwear. The Gunny responded, ‘Aye,aye, sir, I’ll see to it immediately’. He went into the tent and said, ‘The lieutenant thinks you guys smell bad, and wants you to change your underwear. Smith, you change with Jones, McCarthy, you change with Witkowskie, Brown, you change with Schultz. Get to it’.

    The moral: A candidate may promise change in Washington, but don’t count on things smelling any better.


  79. 79 Voice of Raisins June 12, 2008 at 11:21 am

    SG: I think it makes very good sense that Eddie Perez has manager potential. Maybe not at this very moment, but I believe he would make a very good ML manager. He spent a number of years on this team as a backup and sometimes starting catcher. His playing experience gives him the perspective of the field quarterback who calls defenses, lines up fielders, calls games, etc. Of all positions on the field, I believe that catcher is uniquely tied in to the finer strategical aspects of the game. Also, in his time onthe bench as backup, Eddie spent alot of time studying at the “master’s feet”, so to speak. It was noted many times during tose games that Eddie often sat very close to Bobby and studied the game from a managerial perspective because he had managerial asperations. And before y’all begin crackin’ on Bobby, he is HOF manager.

    My goal for him in the immediate future is as bench coach. Chino should go. I think Chino’s biggest contribution to this team is as interpreter. Seriously… I think that’s why he is here… He could go to the bullpen for Eddie.


  80. 80 Pappy June 12, 2008 at 11:34 am

    Here is my take on managers and coaches. First, I think it is totally ridiculous that they wear uniforms. Can you imagine gymnastic and beach volley ball coaches wearing unis? BTW, Connie Mack(who I mentioned yesterday)was the last one–I think–to wear a coat and tie. Anyway, if they are going to wear uniforms they should look like they belong in them. I’m not saying they have to be “ripped”, but a lot few donlop bellies would be a start. As a player I would have a lot more respect for someone with some personal pride and willingness to keep himself in shape who was telling me to do so. I could go on, but hopefully, you get my point.


  81. 81 Pappy June 12, 2008 at 11:35 am

    substitute “fewer”.


  82. 82 flbravesgirl June 12, 2008 at 11:39 am

    We missed you too, VOR. Thanks for agreeing with me about Eddie. About the interpreter issue, I can’t fault the Latin players for not all speaking great English because it is such a difficult language to learn. But if I were a GM/ team president/ other bigwig, I would have English tutors working with all my minor league teams giving the young Latin players intensive English lessons and teaching the American players some Spanish too. Now if you have Asian players too it gets more complicated.


  83. 83 Pappy June 12, 2008 at 11:43 am

    FBG; Do you advocate the bullpen phone having a “press one for Spanish” “press two for English” announcement? 😀


  84. 84 flbravesgirl June 12, 2008 at 11:43 am

    I think they should be allowed to wear a modified version of the uniform, uncle. And they absolutely should set a good example by being in better shape. Chino in uniform pants… 😯 .


  85. 85 flbravesgirl June 12, 2008 at 11:46 am

    No, uncle. I think they should speak good English by the time they get to the majors. (Some of the American kids could use some grammar & pronunciation help too.) The teams should see to it.


  86. 86 Pappy June 12, 2008 at 11:48 am

    Here I’ll ruin your whole day. Chino, in “uniform”, coaching a women’s beach volley ball team. And with that I’ll leave.


  87. 87 flbravesgirl June 12, 2008 at 11:53 am

    That was 👿 , uncle. Yuck!!!!!


  88. 88 Salty June 12, 2008 at 12:08 pm

    Connie Mack(who I mentioned yesterday)was the last one–I think–to wear a coat and tie.

    Actually, he was dressed as the owner…just didn’t like sitting in his suite! 🙄


  89. 89 Pappy June 12, 2008 at 12:14 pm

    Salty; Actually he was the owner, manager, ticket taker and you name it. See below.

    Cornelius Alexander Mack (December 22, 1862 – February 8, 1956), born Cornelius Alexander McGillicuddy, was an American professional baseball player, manager, and team owner. Considered one of the greatest managers in Major League Baseball history, he holds records for wins (3,731), losses (3,948), and games managed (7,755), with his victory total being almost 1,000 more than any other manager. He managed the Philadelphia Athletics for the club’s first 50 seasons of play before retiring at age 87 following the 1950 season. He was the first manager to win the World Series three times, and is the only manager to win consecutive Series on separate occasions (1910-11, 1929-30); his five Series titles remain the third most by any manager, and his nine American League pennants rank second in league history. However, constant financial struggles forced repeated rebuilding of the roster, and Mack’s teams also finished in last place 17 times.


  90. 90 flbravesgirl June 12, 2008 at 12:23 pm

    Can you imagine Bobby managing ’til he’s 87? Robert would have to be institutionalized.


  91. 91 Pappy June 12, 2008 at 12:24 pm

    I thought he is 87! 👿


  92. 92 flbravesgirl June 12, 2008 at 12:30 pm

    I think he’s 67, uncle.


  93. 93 flbravesgirl June 12, 2008 at 12:39 pm

    Thunderstorm coming. I’m shutting the computer down. See y’all later.


  94. 94 Berigan 3, part 3, in 3-D June 12, 2008 at 12:49 pm

    Good afternoon everyone! VOR did put it in perspective earlier today….it IS just a game. If you find yourself feeling sick, or unable to sleep….well, you are a very good fan, but remember what fan is short for….and there is always another day with a baseball team, not always in life!


  95. 95 Pappy June 12, 2008 at 12:53 pm

    My God! This blog is beginning to sound like Dr. Phil!


  96. 96 Pappy June 12, 2008 at 1:05 pm

    If you guys want to be Norman Vincent Peale(google it)sound-alikes, get his quotes correct.

    The trouble with most of us is that we would rather be ruined by praise than saved by criticism.
    Norman Vincent Peale


  97. 97 Berigan 3, part 3, in 3-D June 12, 2008 at 1:05 pm

    Now, to baseball….I have gotten ill feeling after games, usually playoff games though…

    But, I saw something last night that made me as mad as I have ever been at the team, and it was something that happened between innings.

    I can rewind a program with my DISH DVR, and had left the tv on in another room after giving up on the game. Saw it was the postgame show, and just wanted to see what Ron and Jerome, et al said….so, rewound it 30 minutes, hit record, and recorded it to watch later(Ain’t technology grand! :mrgreen: )

    So, typical stuff(Everyone was fairly critical, but seemed to have to censor themselves, hey we don’t want people to stop watching!) was reported, but then they showed footage of Jeff Ridgeway after his first inning as a brave coming into the dugout. No runs were scored, and he had struck out 2. No one, NO ONE congratulated him!!!!! I’d use the little angry smiley face, but that is more comical than angry, and that really PO’ed me! It isn’t his fault the team sucks right now! I heard on the radio that he had a terrible record with the Tampa bay team last year, like 9 of the 10 hitters he faced got hits against him!

    So, imagine being Jeff Ridgeway, wondering if you would ever get another chance in the majors, getting that chance because of many injuries, and not even bench players can bother to get off their butts to high 5 you!!! That, is poor, that is selfish, and that is not what winning teams do.

    Someone should apologize to the young man….Bobby on down, everyone really…..


  98. 98 Pappy June 12, 2008 at 1:10 pm

    B-cubed; The team is lifeless, gutless and hopeless. What more proof do you need?


  99. 99 Berigan 3, part 3, in 3-D June 12, 2008 at 1:16 pm

    I don’t know that I quite painted the picture with words, a wordsmith, I ain’t! 🙄 Just watching him walk in the dugout, look around for a high 5 and find no one(Sort of like what you see when a team kid a guy who hits a homer and and everyone sits on their hands, to they all rush the guy and have a big laugh) then have to just…sit…pathetic.

    And anyone hear what personal reason Bennett left for right after the game???

    Bobby was strangely critical of Bennett last night, said he made some great pitches and some really bad ones. How he had just thrown one right by Fukodome before the homer…I think it was an offspeed pitch he hit, but it was low, and in. Gee Bobby, do you think overwork makes it hard to snap off really good breaking pitches??? And everyone said he was squeezed on the strike zone as well…..hopefully, everything is aok with him….


  100. 100 Pappy June 12, 2008 at 1:16 pm

    I am leaving this time. But, I want to leave you with another Peale quote that should be communicated to the Braves.

    It’s always too early to quit.
    –Norman Vincent Peale–


  101. 101 Berigan 3, part 3, in 3-D June 12, 2008 at 1:18 pm

    Ok O’ positive one! 😛 NVP was right though! Now, if we can just convince the cards to take Bobby, and Tony to manage here….


  102. 102 chrisklob June 12, 2008 at 1:34 pm

    Berigan, I didn’t see what you were talking about with Ridgway but I heard about it. That’s pathetic and that entire dugout should be ashamed and embarrassed with themselves.

    Ridgway appeared in three games last year and recorded ONE out! His career ERA before last night’s game was 189.00! Last night’s good work brought it down to 27.00. I’ll bet he’ll be given plenty of opportunities to further reduce that number, especially the way things are going for this team lately.


  103. 103 flbravesgirl June 12, 2008 at 2:10 pm

    Y’all should check out WGN. They’ve got old-style graphics, the announcers are dressed in the period style too & they’re going to do the first couple of innings in black & white. They’re really into this.


  104. 104 Carolina Lady June 12, 2008 at 2:13 pm

    from ajc:

    It’s been an injury-plagued season for Chipper Jones, Bobby Cox and the Braves. With the recent addition of Tom Glavine, there was $62 million worth of players out of action. That’s more than half of the Braves’ payroll and more than Tampa Bay, Kansas City and Florida are spending the entire season.

    Having more than half of his payroll on the DL is probably not how Braves GM Frank Wren envisioned spending his first year on the job.What follows is a breakdown of the Braves disabled list.

    Relief pitcher Peter Moylan was placed on the 15-day DL, April 15. He is out for the season, after right elbow surgery.Salary: $410,000

    Outfielder Matt Diaz was placed on 15-day DL, May 28, with a torn ligament in left knee. Salary: $1.2 million.

    Pitcher Mike Gonzalez was placed on the 15-day DL, March 22, with a left knee injury. Salary: $2.4 million

    Outfielder Mark Kotsay was placed on the 15-day DL, May 30, with soreness in his lower back. Salary: $7 million

    Pitcher John Smoltz was placed on the DL for the fourth time this season on June 4. He is out for the season, after having surgery June 10. Salary: $14 million.

    Pitcher Mike Hampton was placed on the 15-day DL, April 4, with a strained pectoral muscle. He has not appeared in a Braves’ game in 33 months. Salary: $15 million.

    Infielder Martin Prado was placed on the 15-day DL, May 5, with a left thumb injury. Salary: $390,000

    Braves pitcher Anthony Lerew was placed on the 60-day DL, March 22, after left elbow surgery. Salary: $390,000

    Tom Glavine was the most recent to join the disabled list. The Braves’ left-hander was placed on the disabled list, after straining his pitching elbow against the Cubs on Tuesday.Salary: $8 million.


  105. 105 Berigan 3, part 3, in 3-D June 12, 2008 at 2:19 pm

    FLB, thanks for telling us! Just put on WGN, that’s cool!


  106. 106 flbravesgirl June 12, 2008 at 2:20 pm

    Do handbell choirs & baseball go together?


  107. 107 Pappy June 12, 2008 at 2:28 pm

    I’m back, but only briefly. Hold the applause.

    During the Braves “streak” how many teams do you think went to ST thinking they had the team to challenge, if not beat, the Braves? But, then injuries happened, pitchers went south, the wind blew in and yada, yada, yada. Stuff happens! But, seasons go on. It ain’t that different in baseball than in other things. No one feels sorry for you but yourself. One final one. There are 1000s of excuses for losing; no excuses are necessary for winning. I HATE QUITTERS!


  108. 108 flbravesgirl June 12, 2008 at 2:32 pm

    Do you remember when the games looked like this, uncle? 😉

    Chipper looks good in the retro uni, doesn’t he? He just looks like a ballplayer. Glad to see everyone is wearing their socks high so far.


  109. 109 Berigan 3, part 3, in 3-D June 12, 2008 at 2:33 pm

    Sure, FLB, just like mustard on ice cream! 😀


  110. 110 Berigan 3, part 3, in 3-D June 12, 2008 at 2:34 pm

    No replays??? No color??? no shot from center field to home???? People were savages then! 😯


  111. 111 flbravesgirl June 12, 2008 at 2:40 pm

    Even the concession vendors dressed the part. The PA announcer is sitting behind home plate with a mic. They went all out. Really cool.


  112. 112 Berigan 3, part 3, in 3-D June 12, 2008 at 2:42 pm

    Pappy, I mentioned yesterday that teams like the Cards have lost almost as many starting pitchers as we have. And no one would say they had more talent than we do! Who is their ss??? Their 2nd baseman??? Now they have lost fat Albert for 3 weeks. My brilliant idea of trading for Chris Duncan won’t happen now, since he has been called back up, and will be playing 1st for the Cards….they adapt. We don’t…and we don’t play with fire. Where is our Ryan Freel?? Our Ryan Theriot??? Reed Johnson??? Guys who play with fire???

    Bob Brenly said Frenchy has prodigious power!!! 😆 Ha! Just got lucky, with that 2 run homer.

    Is it really true, Frenchy has no hits in a 2-0 or 3-1 count, this whole year?????


  113. 113 flbravesgirl June 12, 2008 at 2:47 pm

    I love the socks. They should keep those all year.


  114. 114 Berigan 3, part 3, in 3-D June 12, 2008 at 3:07 pm

    Thank God Tim Hudson ducked that ball! DeRosa has more RBI’s than Frenchy does! Zambrano can really hit!!!


  115. 115 flbravesgirl June 12, 2008 at 3:27 pm

    You see the Indian head patch on the Braves’ sleeves? I’ve got a couple of those. My dad got them when he was a kid when the Braves had ST here.


  116. 116 Voice of Raisins June 12, 2008 at 3:36 pm

    Chip Caray looks like an idiot. Of course, he usually sounds like one, too…


  117. 117 Voice of Raisins June 12, 2008 at 3:37 pm

    Can we drop the new blue roadies and adopt these retro unis? I love ’em. And, nobody has left with a career threatening injury! 😀


  118. 118 Savannah Guy June 12, 2008 at 3:41 pm

    I believe he would make a very good ML manager… Eddie spent alot of time studying at the “master’s feet”, so to speak. It was noted many times during tose games that Eddie often sat very close to Bobby and studied the game from a managerial perspective because he had managerial asperations.

    Raisins, you just made part of my point here. Here’s the thing… Eddie may have been busy at the “feet of the master” and working very hard absorbing all he can about management… he may even achieve his manager education, reach his goals and make the best manager in the history of baseball, we just don’t know. Reminds me of a sports quote that fits:

    “Never mistake activity for achievement.”- Bill Walton.

    Nobody, even in the Braves clubhouse knows whether he’d step up and do all the things a good manager does and lead the Braves team to the next level… into the post season and into 21st century. Both outcomes are connected.

    The next manager needs to bring all of the experience as a player (which EP has), the management skill set (not yet), the understanding of the technology and mathematic tools, strategies and tactics necessary to compete in the future, which as far as I’ve heard, starts in 2010 after Bobby leaves… if he leaves. Maybe I should just say, the Braves future begins when and only when Bobby’s manager career ends.

    Here’s the catch: Bobby has been running his own type of program. Sure, he’s a HOF manager and for the most part his ‘way’ has (arguably) worked for the last couple of decades. That era is over and Cox is finished as a suitable manager for a team that wants to win, whether he, the Braves organization or many fans think so. Whether we accept reality or not, it won’t change because we say so or hope so. Not without divine intervention anyway.

    That’s not a cut on Bobby. He’s just older, he has less energy, he’s less effective and pro sport management is evolving beyond where Cox is in terms of modern ‘tools’. Managers in pro sports will have to embrace new, innovative ways… Bobby is waist to chest deep in the tar pits. That fact does not discount his success, his worth or his HOF credentials… it just is what it is.

    Again, that’s not a knock on BC. I’m older now and am not able to do some things as well as the younger folks in my business. Should I hold the company back because I’ve done good things in the past? Should I embrace new, better ways and a new role for myself so that the company has the best chance to succeed? Should I turn over the reins in areas of my activity that are now less effective? You bet.

    Should I regret that others can do better, faster or more efficiently what I used to do so well. Not at all… I wouldn’t have it any other way. It’s the natural progression of life and work. I would not hurt my own chances of success because I wanted to ‘hang on’ to duties just because I had the rank to call the shot and do as I pleased. Another pertinent quote:

    “When one door closes, another opens; but we often look so long and so regretfully upon the closed door that we do not see the one which has opened.” – Alexander Graham Bell.

    Right or wrong, here’s something that troubles me when I think about Eddie Perez or Terry Pendleton taking over as bench coach or manager: They have both learned the old ways from the old master. They are part of the good ‘ol boy clubhouse. They may both be totally separated from that philosophically and strategically, but there they are.

    “If you have always done it that way, it is probably wrong.” – Charles Kettering.

    “An organization’s ability to learn, and translate that learning into action rapidly, is the ultimate competitive advantage.” – Jack Welch

    When the Braves hire a new manager I’d like to think we would be stepping into the sophisticated future of pro management, not a succession of ‘ranked by tenure’ or other old school, good ol’ boy legacy motivations. Maybe we’ll throw the baby out with the bathwater, but sometimes in business, sports and life, we raise the bar on requirements and expectations.

    “Do not seek to follow in the footsteps of the men of old; seek what they sought.” – Matsuo Basho.

    We fans have absolutely zero impact on what the Braves organization does or what Bobby does. I suspect there may be some lack of self awareness there on all parts of the decision chain, but I’d hope to see Cox retire after this season, take his bows, accept his accolades, start the HOF clock, get a grand job alongside Hank and John and live a wonderful life. Oh, and I’d like his to witness what the right, next generation manager can do with the team. Anyway, that’s what I believe about that. But then, what the heck do I know?

    “Idealism increases in direct proportion to one’s distance from the problem.” –John Galsworthy


  119. 119 Savannah Guy June 12, 2008 at 3:53 pm

    Sometimes I really feel for you guys… captive audience and all, having a Savannah sunami spring up and blast over your bow while you’re just sittin’ there, innocently watching a game like that.

    But not today. :mrgreen:


  120. 120 Voice of Raisins June 12, 2008 at 4:07 pm

    SG: You make many good points. I happen to not agree with all of them, but that is the nature of discourse, eh?

    A pedigree of experience and success does not always translate into success at the next stop. One only needs to look back at Chuck Tanner in a Braves uni to see that.

    Can a manager who “studies” under the old ways of Bobby succeed with their own team and in their own way? One only needs to look at Fredi Gonzalez in Miami.

    There is really no reason to believe that any player or coach who “studied” under Bobby will manage like Bobby. One only needs to look at Ned Yost or even Ozzie Guillen to see that.

    The bottom line, though, is that you can never know how a manager will fare, or a team will play under said manager, until it happens. Davey Johnson was a genius in NY, a scapegoat in Baltimore, and out of the game since. Does Bobby manage that differently this year than he did a few years ago when the roster was first populated by the “Baby Braves” and he was named NL Manager of the Year? I really don’t think it’s drastically different… I do think, though, that this year’s expectations were drastically different.

    “The measure of a person’s failure can be directly related to the expected achievment.” -VOR


  121. 121 Berigan 3, part 3, in 3-D June 12, 2008 at 4:09 pm

    SG, you shoulda saved that for a new lead! 😀 It was very good though! I knew you or WW had a massive post, when I kept scrolling up, and up, and….up!!!! 😛

    I really liked this quote….
    “When one door closes, another opens; but we often look so long and so regretfully upon the closed door that we do not see the one which has opened.” – Alexander Graham Bell.

    So very true!

    One thing I will say in TP’s defense…..He has to follow the bosses rules, and perhaps, just perhaps he’s thinking, if/when I am in charge, I will change, this, that and the other…..could be wrong as well.

    As much as it appears he is being groomed to be Cox’s successor, he has to be getting tired of waiting for him to retire….he knows he won’t be the Braves manager in 2009, so he might consider options to manage elsewhere come the off-season.


  122. 122 Voice of Raisins June 12, 2008 at 4:16 pm

    Thank God Tess called KJ off that pop-up!!! 😀


  123. 123 Savannah Guy June 12, 2008 at 4:18 pm

    Slap an ‘A’ on these old uni’s and let’s keep’em just like they are. Cool socks too.


  124. 124 Voice of Raisins June 12, 2008 at 4:20 pm

    Steamed Zambrano… Am I the only one that is suddenly craving an exotic dish? 😀


  125. 125 Voice of Raisins June 12, 2008 at 4:21 pm

    I even like the B


  126. 126 Savannah Guy June 12, 2008 at 4:24 pm

    Raisins, I really don’t think we disagree all that much. Except on Eddie as Manager. 😆

    I like your new, old avatar. I’d also scrap our new modern team logo and go with the one’s on the uni’s today. New technology, new manager and retro uni. A winning combo. Burn the navy shirts.


  127. 127 Savannah Guy June 12, 2008 at 4:26 pm

    Zambrano fettucini and garlic bread? Pappy can bring the Chianti.


  128. 128 Voice of Raisins June 12, 2008 at 4:27 pm

    Burn the nay shirts. On that, we definitely agree.

    And on fettucini… 😀


  129. 129 Voice of Raisins June 12, 2008 at 4:28 pm

    And the navy shirts, too…


  130. 130 Pappy June 12, 2008 at 4:28 pm

    I got a little snippy earlier and I’m sorry. But, I am frustrated. You can NOT settle for mediocrity. You CAN’T. Yes, we may be setting a record for players lost, but you HAVE to carry on. I love Kotsay, and MATT and even KJ, but there are players available that can replace them. GO GET THEM. The ones we have are not doing the job! This is a management failure and they MUST fix it.

    SG, Raisins and B-cubed; All of you make excellent points about the managerial situation. SG’s sounds like a operations manual, but GOOD points. 😛 The main thing is that we are having civil discourse about this with no donkey references. It is criticism, but as NVP said, criticism is good. Without it, we would never get better.


  131. 131 Savannah Guy June 12, 2008 at 4:29 pm

    Nice job Blanco… watch a tee ball.


  132. 132 Savannah Guy June 12, 2008 at 4:30 pm

    Raisins, we can have some Nay shirts and some Yea shirts. Or, for politicians, Yea on front and Nay on back.


  133. 133 Voice of Raisins June 12, 2008 at 4:31 pm

    Flaming Marmol? Does that go with Steamed Zambrano?


  134. 134 Pappy June 12, 2008 at 4:32 pm

    Screw the shirts. Hit and catch the damn ball!


  135. 135 Savannah Guy June 12, 2008 at 4:32 pm

    sounds like a operations manual

    Never heard one of those.


  136. 136 Savannah Guy June 12, 2008 at 4:33 pm

    I think Pappy just ordered a Nay shirt. Our first sale!


  137. 137 Savannah Guy June 12, 2008 at 4:34 pm

    I knew we were in trouble when the bases got loaded….


  138. 138 Voice of Raisins June 12, 2008 at 4:35 pm

    That absolutely sucks… They do not deserve to win this game even if they miraculously hold this tenuous 1 run lead! 😡

    Well, maybe Huddy deserves it…


  139. 139 Pappy June 12, 2008 at 4:35 pm

    OK, reads like a operations manual then, smart arse.


  140. 140 Voice of Raisins June 12, 2008 at 4:37 pm

    Which Cub homers off Boyer?


  141. 141 Savannah Guy June 12, 2008 at 4:38 pm

    Did someone tell Blanco and Infante to watch the pitcher until the ball magically lept into the outfield?

    What is WRONG with this picture? No time for getting picky about the pitch location. Sheeeeeesshhhhh.


  142. 142 Voice of Raisins June 12, 2008 at 4:38 pm

    Maybe Chip will take “2 pitches, 2 outs” all day long, but I prefer 3 outs.


  143. 143 Voice of Raisins June 12, 2008 at 4:38 pm



  144. 144 Savannah Guy June 12, 2008 at 4:39 pm

    Not again… lug nuts are loose.


  145. 145 Hillbilly June 12, 2008 at 4:42 pm


    I’m going to say Boyer gets through it, but for some unknown reason, Bobby runs out Ohman in the 9th, knowing damn well hitters are carrying a .785 batting average against him at Wrigley. Reed Johnson pinch hits for Edmonds and gaps a game tying double, scoring Fukodome.


  146. 146 Pappy June 12, 2008 at 4:42 pm

    Raisins; Unless you have native American blood, your avatar is politically incorrect. Also, he is riding backwards on the motorcycle.


  147. 147 Pappy June 12, 2008 at 4:45 pm

    Fukadome. That is what the voters said when they wanted to put a roof on Wrigley.


  148. 148 Voice of Raisins June 12, 2008 at 4:46 pm

    Political correctness is in reality political manipulation. It’s nothing more than massaging reality into perception. It’s acceptable lying.


  149. 149 Voice of Raisins June 12, 2008 at 4:47 pm

    Whew! 😯


  150. 150 Pappy June 12, 2008 at 4:48 pm

    Raisins; That sounds like an Obama speech.


  151. 151 Savannah Guy June 12, 2008 at 4:49 pm

    That is what the voters said when they wanted to put a roof on Wrigley. 😆


  152. 152 Hillbilly June 12, 2008 at 4:50 pm

    Define “Whew!”……for those of us NOT watching at home. Thanks in advance. 😉


  153. 153 Voice of Raisins June 12, 2008 at 4:50 pm

    Pappy: Them’s fightin’ words! 😀


  154. 154 Savannah Guy June 12, 2008 at 4:50 pm

    Hillbilly, I hope you’re wrong. If you’re right, you have to post some lottery numbers for us. 🙂


  155. 155 Pappy June 12, 2008 at 4:51 pm

    Why am I thinking “walkoff”?


  156. 156 Voice of Raisins June 12, 2008 at 4:51 pm

    Whew!8O = Boyer escaping the 8th with 2 runners aboard.


  157. 157 Savannah Guy June 12, 2008 at 4:52 pm

    Hillbilly, whew… as in, we left 2 Cubs on base with Fukodome at bat.


  158. 158 chrisklob June 12, 2008 at 4:53 pm

    Love the new/old uni’s. I saw they keep ’em. The “B” can stand for “Blah-tlanta”. Describes perfectly their play on the field of late.


  159. 159 Hillbilly June 12, 2008 at 4:54 pm

    Thanks, I was hoping that was not “Whew!” as in “Whew!, that damn-near cleared Sheffield Avenue.”


  160. 160 Pappy June 12, 2008 at 4:57 pm

    Chris; With your new avatar I think of you as a St. Bernard with a keg of Klobber’s Best around your neck. Here boy! 😆


  161. 161 Voice of Raisins June 12, 2008 at 4:57 pm

    klobber: They haven’t looked so blah today, thus far… It’s been a nice break. Of course they did leave 2 on with some ugly K’s in the 7th.


  162. 162 Voice of Raisins June 12, 2008 at 5:00 pm

    And 12 LOB again…

    Who’s the closer du’jour?


  163. 163 Savannah Guy June 12, 2008 at 5:00 pm

    Canned game recap: Braves score a few early and go silent.


  164. 164 Voice of Raisins June 12, 2008 at 5:02 pm

    Oh, crap… Boyer’s back. 😐


  165. 165 Voice of Raisins June 12, 2008 at 5:03 pm

    They gotta DL Soriano, don’t they? 😕


  166. 166 Savannah Guy June 12, 2008 at 5:04 pm

    Agree with Joe… DL Soriano and get some dependable help.

    Please… not Acosta.


  167. 167 chrisklob June 12, 2008 at 5:04 pm

    Careful Pappy. I bite. 🙂

    Raisins, maybe not today, but lately. And they haven’t exactly been dominating today. There were some pretty bad AB’s with RISP last inning.


  168. 168 Pappy June 12, 2008 at 5:04 pm

    NOW Sheffield Ave may come in to play.


  169. 169 Savannah Guy June 12, 2008 at 5:05 pm

    Long noisy out.


  170. 170 Voice of Raisins June 12, 2008 at 5:05 pm

    Holy schnikey!


  171. 171 Voice of Raisins June 12, 2008 at 5:05 pm



  172. 172 Savannah Guy June 12, 2008 at 5:05 pm

    Shyte… home run ties the game.


  173. 173 Voice of Raisins June 12, 2008 at 5:06 pm

    Jim Friggin’ “I couldn’t hit a bull in the ass with a snowshovel” Edmonds!


  174. 174 Pappy June 12, 2008 at 5:09 pm

    Forgive him Dali Mama. He knows not what he said.


  175. 175 Savannah Guy June 12, 2008 at 5:10 pm

    Boyer had it coming. The long flyout almost went out right before the home run.

    If at first you don’t succeed…


  176. 176 Savannah Guy June 12, 2008 at 5:11 pm

    How long will it take for long-time Braves fans to not be surprised at what we’re seeing on a daily basis?


  177. 177 Pappy June 12, 2008 at 5:12 pm

    If at first you don’t succeed…suck harder. Afterall, it’s the juice you are after, anyway.


  178. 178 chrisklob June 12, 2008 at 5:13 pm

    SG, I am not surprised or shocked. In fact, I have come to expect it. Because of that and the fact that I have reconciled to myself that this team is not very good and is going nowhere, I find that I am not upset about what just happened. It is very liberating and frankly, I recommend it to you all. It will certainly help with your blood pressure.


  179. 179 Savannah Guy June 12, 2008 at 5:17 pm

    Klobber, I’m there. Been there for weeks. A month.

    Oh, there are moments of temporary insanity (hope), but, like you… I… am… there… sigh.


  180. 180 Pappy June 12, 2008 at 5:17 pm

    I got my bookie on the phone. Anyone want to wager? If you are betting on the Braves he’ll catch a cab and be right over.


  181. 181 Savannah Guy June 12, 2008 at 5:20 pm

    Pappy, like a tennis ball through a garden hose kind’a suck? Like a chromo off’a trailer hitch? Like a cave your face in trying to get that first draw of a too thick chocolate shake through that too skinny straw at Steak ‘n Shake?


  182. 182 Pappy June 12, 2008 at 5:21 pm

    Ahhhhhcosta on the mound. Get the women and children off Sheffield Ave.


  183. 183 Savannah Guy June 12, 2008 at 5:22 pm

    May as well have some free baseball… what say?


  184. 184 Pappy June 12, 2008 at 5:22 pm

    You brought it up and now you want me to set the parameters?


  185. 185 Savannah Guy June 12, 2008 at 5:23 pm

    Tell him I’ll take the Braves if he spots me two runs. 😀


  186. 186 chrisklob June 12, 2008 at 5:23 pm

    Nice work by I’ll Cost Ya. So far.

    It figures that the Braves would have to go extra on getaway day. At least it’s a day game.


  187. 187 Pappy June 12, 2008 at 5:26 pm

    Am I the only one that even, if we win is going to say, so?


  188. 188 Pappy June 12, 2008 at 5:27 pm

    This bookie is “old school”. He’ll spot you two broken knee caps.


  189. 189 Pappy June 12, 2008 at 5:36 pm

    The “offensive” Braves have now played 11 innings of baseball and scored in one of them. One of you math majors figure that percentage.


  190. 190 Savannah Guy June 12, 2008 at 5:36 pm

    Tessy wasn’t seeing anything he liked. Even with two strikes, Braves are looking for what? This is just bizarre.


  191. 191 chrisklob June 12, 2008 at 5:38 pm

    Am I the only one that even, if we win is going to say, so?

    No, you’re not alone. And if they lose, I’ll say the same thing.

    If they somehow find a way to not lose this game (which they’ve been trying to do for the past few innings) it doesn’t mean that the season is going to turn around.


  192. 192 Pappy June 12, 2008 at 5:40 pm

    Did I hurt someone’s feelings? Who? How? When? Slowly, I’m taking notes.


  193. 193 Savannah Guy June 12, 2008 at 5:40 pm

    Acosta must have a dinner date. Go ahead… end this thing and put Braves Nation out of it’s misery today.


  194. 194 chrisklob June 12, 2008 at 5:40 pm

    What’s wrong Pappy?


  195. 195 Pappy June 12, 2008 at 5:42 pm

    It had gotten so quiet. back to normal. Disregard.


  196. 196 Savannah Guy June 12, 2008 at 5:45 pm

    Bases loaded and nobody out twice in one inning.

    Bet the Cubs swing the bats.


  197. 197 chrisklob June 12, 2008 at 5:46 pm

    Anyone surprised?

    Anyone shocked?

    I’m not.


  198. 198 Savannah Guy June 12, 2008 at 5:46 pm

    Well… I was wrong. Cubs didn’t even have to swing the bat.

    We find new and creative ways to lose. That keeps it sort’a interesting.


  199. 199 chrisklob June 12, 2008 at 5:47 pm

    This team will find new and exciting ways to lose baseball games. I’ll bet they’ll spend the whole flight to LA trying to find some innovative ways to look awful and lose a bunch of ballgames this weekend.


  200. 200 Pappy June 12, 2008 at 5:47 pm

    Admiral Bobby has sentenced Midshipman Ridgway to walk the plank.


  201. 201 Pappy June 12, 2008 at 5:49 pm

    Turn out the sun. The partys over!


  202. 202 Berigan 3, part 3, in 3-D June 12, 2008 at 5:50 pm

    Why not Royce Ring??? Going to dinner, really glad I stuck around for this! 😕


  203. 203 Savannah Guy June 12, 2008 at 5:51 pm

    Pitching didn’t lose this game.

    Under normal circumstances with a decent team that can occasionally hit with runners on, holding the other team to three runs is just fine. But our guys don’t like the way other pitchers are throwing the ball.


  204. 204 Pappy June 12, 2008 at 5:51 pm

    I’m going to dinner, too. I’m not.


  205. 205 Savannah Guy June 12, 2008 at 5:52 pm

    I’m gonna go kill some weeds.


  206. 206 Pappy June 12, 2008 at 6:08 pm

    SG; Remember! Lift your hind leg.


  207. 207 Pappy June 12, 2008 at 7:41 pm

    Pappy has gone to bed. Take your shots.


  208. 208 Gil in Mechanicsville June 12, 2008 at 8:19 pm

    Greetings Braves fans… Josie and I went out to lunch with friends and mercifully, we missed todays debacle. Reading about it was bad enough but following the commentary of the B&Sers was very enlightening.

    Manny is shell shocked… I don’t know if he will ever be effective in a Braves uni again. Blaine is just Blaine, no further comment necessary.

    I don’t know where help is coming from but the Braves better find some fast or there is going to be a fire sale the likes Atlanta hasn’t seen since Sherman rode through town…


  209. 209 Carolina Lady June 12, 2008 at 8:37 pm

    Ok, so! I take it that things didn’t go so well today, huh?

    Mother’s surgery completed successfully this morning – so saith the doc. Sent her home with a script for pain killers. Lots of fun.

    Last time (2 years ago) she was in a nursing home for rehab for 3 months after the same procedure. This time they just send her home “so you can take care of her.” Gee, thanks, doc! Didn’t realize he had to pay the bills for rehab last time. 😐


  210. 210 Gil in Mechanicsville June 12, 2008 at 9:11 pm

    CL…. My mom is going to a nursing home next Monday, it has been a difficult decision but I think it is time. She has been receptive to it so that is half the battle.

    Glad to hear your mom’s surgery was successful. She will be jumping rope in no time… 🙂


  211. 211 Berigan 3, part 3, in 3-D June 12, 2008 at 9:22 pm

    CL, that’s crazy! Sent her home the same day as the surgery????
    I don’t even know what to say to you but God Bless you! There will be many a statue erected in your honor someday!


  212. 212 Gil in Mechanicsville June 12, 2008 at 9:42 pm

    Mike Gonzales report… Entered the game tonight in the top of the 7th with two on and one out. Stranded two runners (2nd & 3rd). Pitched a total of 1 1/3 innings. Gave up no runs on 1 hit, 1 BB and 2 Ks. Total of 27 pitches, 15 for strikes.


  213. 213 Voice of Raisins June 12, 2008 at 9:50 pm

    Back home…

    I must say that I am impressed that they can find new and creative ways to give games away. It’s OK, though. May the bidding for Tess start with 1 Major League ready player and 2 top prospects.

    I am most happy that CL’s mom came through her surgery well. God bless you both!

    G’night all. It has been a long day that is NOT going to get any longer for me.


  214. 214 Berigan 3, part 3, in 3-D June 12, 2008 at 10:40 pm

    VOR, before the game, DOB said no way would the braves think of trading Tex Tess(Usually don’t give in to peer pressure, but in this case) til 6 weeks at the earliest! Of course, a losing streak like we are likely to witness will change even the most stubborn of minds.

    Does anyone remember hearing thru the years that Bobby really put players in the best position to succeed as possible??? Then why use Manny for a second inning, after a nice solid run free inning???? So much for building up his confidence.

    Jeff Ridgway brought in after pitching 2 innings just last night, bases loaded, NO OUTS…hits a guy, just a great way to build his as well! 🙄


  215. 215 Berigan 3, part 3, in 3-D June 12, 2008 at 10:43 pm

    meant to say Tex Tess 😳


  216. 216 flbravesgirl June 12, 2008 at 10:56 pm

    Good evening y’all. I enjoyed that game ’til the late innings. Had to leave to go to dinner in the middle of the 11th. So I mercifully didn’t have to suffer through the bottom of the inning. Tim Hudson has my permission to slap the face of everyone else on the team, he deserved better. But I do love the socks, keep wearing ’em!


  217. 217 Berigan 3, part 3, in 3-D June 12, 2008 at 11:07 pm

    FLB, you ain’t kiddin’! Listen to this from DOB….

    Hudson had to get IVs when he came out of the game. He was so dehydrated he couldn’t bend his hands, according to Cox. Hudson was still in the training room with an IV bag hooked to his arm, and wasn’t going to be available to talk anytime soon.


  218. 218 flbravesgirl June 12, 2008 at 11:09 pm

    Whoa! I thought they said it was in the 80s there, didn’t know it was that hot. Poor Tim.


  219. 219 flbravesgirl June 12, 2008 at 11:13 pm

    You know, Hudson might be a little scrawny by baseball standards but he is one tough little stringbean.


  220. 220 Berigan 3, part 3, in 3-D June 12, 2008 at 11:20 pm

    Some guys just sweat more than others I guess. the tennis player Jimmy Connors, used to forever have dehydration issues…..


  221. 221 flbravesgirl June 12, 2008 at 11:25 pm

    I don’t think I’ve ever seen any ballplayer sweat more than John Thomson. Remember how his hat would just drip? And he would turn bright pink.


  222. 222 Berigan 3, part 3, in 3-D June 12, 2008 at 11:28 pm

    I had forgotten that….Jason Giambi sweats when it’s 55 degrees! 😯


  223. 223 flbravesgirl June 13, 2008 at 12:34 am

    I know you’re all very excited that So You Think You Can Dance is on again. To celebrate, one of my favorite auditions ever:


  224. 224 flbravesgirl June 13, 2008 at 12:41 am

    The young man is Bryan Gaynor from Atlanta. He has (obviously pretty severe) scoliosis. Of course he couldn’t make it through the choreography round but he was considered such a highlight of last season that they had him dance in the season finale.


  225. 225 flbravesgirl June 13, 2008 at 1:00 am

    Hope that video decides to work. Good night y’all.


  226. 226 chrisklob June 13, 2008 at 7:51 am

    Morning all. CL, I hope your mother is feeling okay this morning. I can’t believe that they sent her home.

    Gil, good luck with your mother. It might be the best thing for you and her.


  227. 227 chrisklob June 13, 2008 at 7:56 am

    I don’t know anything about basketball but I did watch a good bit of that game last night. Anyone else see a parallel with what happened last night and the Braves? The Lakers take a big early lead and then put it on auto pilot. Guess what, the Celtics wanted that game more than the Lakers did. They found a way to come back and win that game.

    Too many times this year we’ve seen the Braves take a lead in the early innings only to lose the game. I can’t blame it on the blowpen alone. There have been far too many opportunities that the offense has not capitalized upon and too many dominant starting pitching performances that have been squandered away.

    This team has no soul, no spirit, no heart and no drive.


  228. 228 ssiscribe June 13, 2008 at 8:35 am

    Top of the morning, denizens. Between meetings right now, so a quick take:

    — Klobber, I stayed up and watched the Celts come back. Made me happy; not a big Kobe fan, per se. Interesting observation. I see the parallel, but only to a certain degree.

    I really felt like the Lakers put it into cruise control, which you can’t do in the third quarter of an NBA game even if you have a 20-point lead. Heck, the Lakers nearly rallied from that type of deficit in Game 2; they should know as well as anybody you’ve got to put the hammer down and kill off the opposition when you have the chance.

    And to a certain extent, I see that with the Braves. But I think the problem with Atlanta now is between the ears as much as anything. When the Braves were rolling at home, they took good at-bats, worked the count, didn’t press, even when trailing late in games. The past three weeks (starting with the trip to Milwaukee and Cincy), most of the team has locked up tighter than all get-out in the late innings when the game is close.

    I call it a good old-fashioned lack of confidence, and the human element of “here we go again.” I don’t know if I’d call that no soul, no spirit, no heart and no drive. Wednesday’s blowout loss was all of that, without a doubt, but I think that debacle stemmed from the triple-blow of Smoltz’s surgery, Glavine’s injury, Jurrjens’ injury. No excuse for acting like you want to be somewhere else. That’s what I saw Wednesday.

    I liked the effort a whole lot more yesterday, even if the results weren’t there. The Braves looked, to me, like they cared. They didn’t look like they cared Wednesday night, which is why — as I wrote on http://braves.today.com yesterday morning — I had to get out of the house as that blowout unfolded Wednesday.

    Yesterday’s game really made me mad, but more from the sense of this team just not being able to seal the deal, not being able to compete with a team like the Cubs (i.e., a playoff team), as opposed to a lack of caring and commitment.

    Just my two cents worth. You know, this team better start winning, or else we’re all going to need a new set of adjectives to describe this …

    That, and some therapy.



  229. 229 Pappy June 13, 2008 at 10:25 am

    I would be the last to argue with the Scribe. As the saying goes, he has forgotten more about baseball than I ever knew. But, at the same time, I know men. I don’t see the fire of competition in the Braves that are playing now. Losing is not the end of the world…in sports. However, lack of effort and accountability is. For instance, the Nats are losing but if I were a fan of theirs I would not be ashamed. They are doing what they can with what they have. And they are giving everybody a fight. I don’t see that in the Braves. They are lifeless and don’t really seem to care…enough to do better. Yes, everyone hates to lose but some hate it to much to let it happen. When they show me that they really care I’ll get back on board. Right now, they don’t care and I don’t either.


  230. 230 Pappy June 13, 2008 at 10:26 am



  231. 231 Gil in Mechanicsville June 13, 2008 at 10:47 am

    008… I was once a big hockey fan. The teams I rooted for were seldom the most talented but I sure loved their fight. They did not have to win to make me happy, only play to the maximum and not roll over. Yes, the current version of the Braves appears to lack that sort of fire and drive. Too laid back for my taste.

    The Phillies have always been a team with an attitude, sometimes to their own detriment. That said, the team I respect the most right now is the Marlins. I detest their owner but I really have to give it to a bunch of guys who are hanging in despite the pre-season predictions of a losing season.

    And yes, the Celtics played one for the ages last night. I guess they were not ready to believe they were suppose to lay down for the Lakers….


  232. 232 Gil in Mechanicsville June 13, 2008 at 10:50 am

    Back in the day, I used to play football. I would love to look into the eyes of the guy across the line from me and see the type of look we all can read on the faces of the Braves right now. You knew you had them beat because they did not believe they could win….


  233. 233 Pappy June 13, 2008 at 11:02 am

    When he first came up what I liked most about Escobar was his fight. Now, I see him adopting the same laid back attitude of others. Leadership by example? I’m afraid so.


  234. 234 Gil in Mechanicsville June 13, 2008 at 11:07 am

    Reports on Richmond’s win in 13 innings last night. Braves are trolling looking for an answer as far as pitchers…



  235. 235 Gil in Mechanicsville June 13, 2008 at 3:11 pm

    Okay, did everybody take the day off???


  236. 236 Berigan 3, part 3, in 3-D June 13, 2008 at 3:46 pm

    Just saw that Tim Russert has died!!!! only 58! Probably the best journalist on TV. So sad….


  237. 237 Pappy June 13, 2008 at 4:19 pm

    You are right, B. He was very good and one of the few journalists that I trusted. Brian Williams is another.


  238. 238 Voice of Raisins June 13, 2008 at 4:36 pm

    Atlanta picked up some bullpen insurance by signing former Baltimore closer Jorge Julio and assigning him to Richmond. He is scheduled to join the R-Braves today. The hard-throwing right-hander was released by Cleveland 11 days ago (0-0, 5.60 ERA). Julio had 83 saves with the Orioles from 2002-04. -Richmond Times-Dispatch

    Gotta do something, right?


  239. 239 Pappy June 13, 2008 at 4:41 pm

    When he is called up, Bobby will probably put him in in a bases-loaded, no outs, with the game on the line situation. See what he is made of, right?


  240. 240 Pappy June 13, 2008 at 4:48 pm

    I think a Japanese player named Fukahoma would fit in quite well.


  241. 241 Berigan 3, part 3, in 3-D June 13, 2008 at 6:20 pm

    Pappy, right you are about Julio…..Julio gave up 3 homers in 17 innings this year, just the guy for the braves! 🙄
    We still have Resop, right??? Somehow no team in baseball felt the need to take a chance on a guy with a 98 MPH fastball. Bobby should call him up to get splinters in the bullpen…


  242. 242 Berigan 3, part 3, in 3-D June 13, 2008 at 6:39 pm

    Smoltz hopes to return; Glavine likely out until All-Star break


  243. 243 Berigan 3, part 3, in 3-D June 13, 2008 at 9:18 pm

    Wow, busy day here on the ol’ B&S blog! 😯 It could take someone minutes, perhaps 10 minutes to catch up with the posts today! 😛

    Perhaps someone could also teach those that post both places, to learn to have two windows open…so they could post on both forums, at the very same time!!! 😉

    The exciting lineup tonight….
    1. Escobar, 2. Kelly, 3. Chipper, 4. Teixeira, 5. Mac, 6. Francoeur, 7. Norton, 8. Blanco, 9. B. Jones.

    So, no rest for Chipper or Frenchy in the DH role…of course….


  244. 244 Gil in Mechanicsville June 13, 2008 at 10:06 pm

    Bad news… Chipper out for the night, injured by a foul ball in batting practice. Freaky Friday part II


  245. 245 Berigan 3, part 3, in 3-D June 13, 2008 at 10:11 pm

    Going to post this, just in case I forget about it later. 😕
    Chipper hit by a ball just below the eye, apparently while batting…bounced off the batting cage somehow. Out of the line-up.

    THe Berigan and stuff blog????


  246. 246 Berigan 3, part 3, in 3-D June 13, 2008 at 10:32 pm

    Gil, I swear I didn’t see your post before!!! Not usually a delay of more than a minute….

    Nice to hear Torii Hunter wanted to sign with us….but the Angels, you know…more money…Nice to see Sarge Jr….released by us a few years back….another great move….I’m in a swell mood, as you can tell! 😀


  247. 247 flbravesgirl June 13, 2008 at 10:38 pm

    So a foul ball in BP takes a freak bounce off Chipper’s eye?!? Will someone get hit by a meteor next?


  248. 248 Gil in Mechanicsville June 13, 2008 at 11:03 pm

    Going to be an American League game tonight… At least the Braves bats are waking up.


  249. 249 flbravesgirl June 13, 2008 at 11:04 pm

    Nice work by the bottom of the order. We’ve griped so much about all that’s gone wrong, how ’bout something that’s gone right : Omar Infante. What a pleasant surprise he has been.


  250. 250 Gil in Mechanicsville June 13, 2008 at 11:09 pm

    This team has broken my heart so many times this year, I am on a direct line with Ann Landers…


  251. 251 Carolina Lady June 13, 2008 at 11:19 pm

    Just stopped in for a minute before turning in – Howdy, all!

    Checked scores: PHL 20 STL 2 Oh, mercy!

    Chipper: http://atlanta.braves.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20080613&content_id=2909273&vkey=news_atl&fext=.jsp&c_id=atl



  252. 252 flbravesgirl June 13, 2008 at 11:23 pm

    Nice throw, Mac!


  253. 253 flbravesgirl June 13, 2008 at 11:35 pm

    Did I just see that? “Get’em on, get’em over, get ’em in” ?!? Wow!


  254. 254 flbravesgirl June 13, 2008 at 11:43 pm

    Very nice work by Jo-Jo through 6.


  255. 255 Savannah Guy June 13, 2008 at 11:50 pm


    Just when you thought things could not possibly get worse for the Braves, a large meteor fragment was detected just before game time in the visitor’s clubhouse in Anaheim. All Braves players have potentially been exposed to volatile and oxidized elements and dangerous levels of radium, pallasites, iron and nickel.

    Like the Braves, meteorites are considered pristine samples of early solar system matter, although in many cases their properties have been modified by thermal metamorphism or icy alteration. The majority of meteorites are believed to be fragments of asteroids.

    A meteoroid is matter revolving around the sun or any object in interplanetary space that is too small to be called an asteroid or a comet. These bodies are sometimes watched for decades, glowing brightly as they reach a crescendo and flame out. This particular meteoroid that crashed into Angel Stadium was first spotted in 1991, peaking in 1995 and glowed brightly until 2005, before reaching atmosphere and plummeting to earth.

    Upon hearing this news, Braves manager Bobby Cox took matters into his own hands and immediately sent bench manager Chino Cadahia out for Preparation H. Chino was sent on this mission because he speaks fluent Spanish, which is the predominant language in Southern California retail stores. When Frank Wren learned of this, he called Bobby aside and explained that asteroids and meteoroids were from space and not, uh… other, more earthly ‘roids. Chino was recalled.

    Later, when Cox learned of Chippers numb left cheek after batting practice, he was heard to mumble, “Left cheek, right cheek, whatever. I’ve had numb cheeks for years, sittin’ on that bench watchin’ games for hours at a stretch. I don’t run off to get x-rays”. Frank Wren was within earshot, heard the comment and called Bobby off to the side again.

    More later.


  256. 256 flbravesgirl June 13, 2008 at 11:57 pm

    Another nice throw from Mac.


  257. 257 Savannah Guy June 14, 2008 at 12:03 am

    Maybe Tessie should return to the American League.

    Maybe we should go there too?


  258. 258 flbravesgirl June 14, 2008 at 12:05 am

    Where has this team been?


  259. 259 chrisklob June 14, 2008 at 12:07 am

    SG, if a meteor caused this team to play this way tonight then how can we plan for a meteor every day for the next 3 1/2 months?

    FBG, good question. Who are these impostors? 😀


  260. 260 flbravesgirl June 14, 2008 at 12:10 am

    Who cares, Chris? Keep ’em!


  261. 261 Savannah Guy June 14, 2008 at 12:19 am

    You people are just plain sick. SICK!!!

    Watching this Braves team play this late, in an in interleague game at that… sick.

    Me too. Call it glutton for punishment, but I love baseball and the team with the big ‘A’ is my team… win or lose, my team.

    The boys have played good tonight. Loose and relaxed and good.


  262. 262 chrisklob June 14, 2008 at 12:19 am

    Good point, FBG. Or should I call you GBG? Whatever! This group is clearly much better than most of those other guys that have been suiting up lately.


  263. 263 Savannah Guy June 14, 2008 at 12:23 am




  264. 264 Savannah Guy June 14, 2008 at 12:24 am



  265. 265 chrisklob June 14, 2008 at 12:25 am

    THat last inning was a little more exciting than I would have preferred but I’m not going to complain.

    The look on Sciocia’s face after that DP was absolutely priceless!


  266. 266 flbravesgirl June 14, 2008 at 12:25 am

    YEEEAAAHHH!!!! Good game! Really good outing for Jo-Jo.


  267. 267 Savannah Guy June 14, 2008 at 12:27 am

    Vlad looks like a totally different player.

    Must be the SoCal cookin’. I’ve always respected his play… strike zone about 3 feet wide and all. He and Dontrelle are parallel kinda’ players, one pitching and one hitting and playing left field. Unconventional and good.


  268. 268 flbravesgirl June 14, 2008 at 12:29 am

    Oh, that was so good to see. Friday the 13th= Braves’ lucky day?


  269. 269 chrisklob June 14, 2008 at 12:29 am

    It’s been a lot of fun watching JoJo grow up right in front of our eyes. He was great tonight! Let’s hope this is a glimpse at the Braves future!


  270. 270 chrisklob June 14, 2008 at 12:30 am

    Oh, that was so good to see. Friday the 13th= Braves’ lucky day?

    Outside of Chipper’s freak injury, I might have to agree with that statement. Let’s hope he’s not out too long.

    Really, how many freak injuries can one man endure?


  271. 271 flbravesgirl June 14, 2008 at 12:32 am

    Well, the CT scan showed no fracture so hopefully he’ll be OK soon.


  272. 272 flbravesgirl June 14, 2008 at 12:35 am

    Not GBG yet, Chris. But I’ll be back up there in a week to check out the new roof.


  273. 273 flbravesgirl June 14, 2008 at 1:05 am

    Good night! 🙂 🙂 🙂


  274. 274 Savannah Guy June 14, 2008 at 1:32 am

    Just when it seemed the friendly confines of ‘home’ and the supposedly welcoming familiarity of the National League East were preferable… upon superficial examination, one discovers that ‘away’ games ‘over there’ across the great divide may be more left coast, but the environs are just as friendly. The ‘away’ stadium seems to respond more to effort and appreciates hits more than in our own, supposedly friendly home stadium.

    Must be American League rules and different umps kinda’ thing. Maybe it’s a familiarity thing. Whatever. Go Braves.


  275. 275 Berigan 3, part 3, in 3-D June 14, 2008 at 1:37 am

    People are still up??? 😯


  276. 276 Berigan 3, part 3, in 3-D June 14, 2008 at 1:43 am

    I am starting to feel like Pala/sky/whateverheusedbefore/Pappy! Everyone hides all day til I get a call while watching the game! 😥

    I’ll get over it, especially with us winning! Almost forget how to type that word! 😀

    Bringing Bennett in did have me ready to start pulling my hair if we lost it, Joe was very perplexed why Jo-Jo didn’t go back out for the 9th….

    But, hard to complain, I thought no way in…heck, we would win easily in against the…..CALIFORNIA Angels, but we did! Yeah!!!!


  277. 277 Gil in Mechanicsville June 14, 2008 at 3:40 am

    Hey, I held on as long as possible but fell asleep at the beginning of the ninth inning. Oh well, I will take the win. Maybe the A Team just figured things couldn’t get any worse. Timely hitting does make a difference.


  278. 278 Pappy June 14, 2008 at 8:19 am

    Berigan; You, of all people, should not give me grief about changing my moniker. Should I have been like you and hang a bunch of numbers behind my “name” with some totally incomprehensible “references” to “what”? Thank you, no.


  279. 279 Savannah Guy June 14, 2008 at 10:19 am

    Good morning Stuffites and Stuffettes.

    Oh, my… Gil is now a spectator. No longer just a non-committal observer, but similar. Maybe a casual, disinterested witness next? Reluctant audience member? Only hurt by the ones we love I s’poze.

    That was a great game last night. Played good, did the little things, good D. Hard to stay up for those west coast games though… hard to get going the morning after too. Need more coffee. I should’a gone to bed with Pappy. No, let me put that another way… uh, early.

    I’ve got a feeling it’s gonna be a good day.


  280. 280 Pappy June 14, 2008 at 11:25 am

    Got up and read the summary. Was this the Atlanta Braves? Regardless, I’m going to have to see a positive string of games before I get excited. You can sleep with me SG. But, I get the top bunk. 😛


  281. 281 Savannah Guy June 14, 2008 at 11:27 am

    OK, but no beans for dinner Pappy. 😆


  282. 282 Savannah Guy June 14, 2008 at 11:42 am

    Further evidence of the ‘Goofy Disneyfication’ of baseball…

    A snippet or three from the AJC (Braves extended PR group), article might relieve those that are worried about life on earth (or the Ted).

    Just think of it as ‘An announcement from the Liberty Media Department of Strategic Baseball Priorities’ (interpretation: If you can’t dazzle’em on the field, distract’em, make’em laugh and sell’em lots of food):

    “Chick-fil-A’s metro Atlanta restaurants are taking the company’s cow campaign to new heights, hoisting a 40-foot tall, 15,000-pound, tomahawk-chopping mechanical cow atop the Braves’ stadium.” “In addition to the cow, Chick-fil-A recently opened two outlets at Turner Field.”

    “The cow will chop at every game.”

    Well, dunno ‘bout you folks, but that just gives me warm fuzzies and little tingles all over. This strategic moooove could turn the season around, fill those stadium seats and fill those hungry bellies too. So don’t tell me Braves management isn’t serious this season. Maybe with the additional revenue from the grotesque and stale chopping bovine looming obnoxiously over the stadium we can afford a new starting pitcher.

    Then again, pitchers cost big money and big cows make money, so it’s a management no-brainer.

    Will the giant bovine intimidate opposing teams or will Atlanta become the butt of cow jokes? Methinks the latter. Will the bovine image become synonymous with the Ted? Would Ted prefer a buffalo? Will the cow tear a labrum or tendon on the first outing? Pull a hammy during installation? Is this a Tojan Cow? This is big… really, really big. Could change everything. Stay tuned…


  283. 283 Savannah Guy June 14, 2008 at 11:52 am

    Tojan cow… sheesh.

    Carolina Lady, very happy to hear of your Mom’s successful procedure. Was hoping for a little PT stint for her for a speedy recovery and a little break for you, but it’ll be fine. Just remember to also take care of yourself. Oh, and blog more when you get the chance. I’ve been out a lot too but I still like to catch up and see where you’ve been mingling with the good citizens of Stuffville.


  284. 284 Pappy June 14, 2008 at 12:00 pm

    Re: The Chopping Cow. I am getting closer and closer to becoming a Chicago Cubbie.


  285. 285 Gil in Mechanicsville June 14, 2008 at 12:18 pm

    I am sure you are all familiar with the term ROFLMAO… Will the chopped beef be in the image of the bull in Durham? Will it be chasing a chicken? Wow, the things people will do for money….


  286. 286 morpheus45 June 14, 2008 at 2:25 pm

    Morning, all. I personally think it’s a good idea. It’ll lend some personality to the stadium, and perhaps be silly enough to temper some of the ugly losses we are likely to continue to endure. Who could be too awful mad leaving the stadium when the last thing you see is a giant cow? Maybe it’ll even garner us some media attention, no small feat when New York and Boston are still playing. Any publicity is good publicity.


  287. 287 Pappy June 14, 2008 at 5:20 pm

    The guy who owns Chick Fil-A (whose name escapes me right now)is very anti-booze. Does that mean no more beer in the Ted pattie?


  288. 288 Pappy June 14, 2008 at 5:26 pm

    The Muts acquired Trot Nixon. ‘Course he had been in AAA, but had been doing real well. This backs up what I said the other day. There are players out there that could fill our holes. Nixon is a gritty player who I would have welcomed to the Braves roster. But, what do I know?


  289. 289 Berigan 3, part 3, in 3-D June 14, 2008 at 5:52 pm

    Truitt Cathy is his name Pappy. Lives up the road from us on a big hunk of land(But doesn’t have a big house for a billionaire)he’s a big old car fan, and my Dad was part of a bunch of folks either from the Lincoln or Cadillac club,I don’t know which, and Dad said you could talk to him just like a guy at the hardware store, completely without ego….
    I don’t know if alcohol plays any role in the situation…heres an article on the subject…


  290. 290 morpheus45 June 14, 2008 at 5:55 pm

    Pappy, tell him the only beans you eat with chianti are fava beans. The kind of beans he’s probably talking about go best with cheap beer. Not conducive to pleasant sleepovers.


  291. 291 Berigan 3, part 3, in 3-D June 14, 2008 at 5:58 pm

    Pappy, right you are, Trot is the kind of guy we need….I think someone brought up his name a month ago(CL?) he went 3 for 7 in the playoffs last year with Cleveland against the Red Sox…you’d think someone would have given him a chance sooner!


  292. 292 Savannah Guy June 14, 2008 at 7:44 pm

    Ted’s Excellent Adventure At The Cow Palace

    With so many arms out and our pen being bled,

    yet it’s a big chop-cow that arrives at the Ted.

    Nothing against bovines, it’s not what we need,

    or do the owners think fans just show up to feed?

    This stadium icon will be profitable I’m sure,

    perhaps it’s a Disney crowd they wish to lure.

    Maybe the Ted will be renamed Cow Palace,

    other teams will surely nickname with malice.

    For an ad cow whose arm bends Ted’ll make room,

    promoting chicken sammiches, business will boom.

    Maybe fans will join in the cow’s tomahawk chop,

    or could just be homers that makes his arm drop.

    Braves really need a closer to slam the door shut,

    or a true ace starter who’s healthy and not in a rut,

    but now we get a big fat cow while teams get ahead,

    instead of post-season we’re sold poultry instead.


  293. 294 morpheus45 June 14, 2008 at 8:04 pm

    You ain’t right in the head, son.


  294. 295 Savannah Guy June 14, 2008 at 8:08 pm

    Grinch, sometimes to start a revolution you have to start with a cow. Medium rare.


  295. 296 Savannah Guy June 14, 2008 at 8:21 pm

    Actually I like Chick-filet… and I used to like their Cow and ‘Eat Mor Chiken’ ad campaign, but after seeing the print, TV ads and billboards about 8 million times over twenty years I’m sick of it. It’s old… very, very old.

    Also don’t think a big, silly, chopping moo is the right kind of image to put over the Ted, regardless of sponsor or stadium profitability. Is nothing sacred? There is nothing about a cow that is fierce, competitive or mean. The opposite is true. May as well have a pig. Both tend to get slaughtered.

    Now, a bull might be OK as far as that goes, but would go better over a basketball arena in, say… Chicago. A bucking stallion might be… no, that belongs in Denver. How about a 40 foot American Indian with war headdress and tomahawk. Whoops, that might offend… not PC enough.

    For now, I’d let the sponsor have the boards and the restaurants and other sponsor locations and perks… just no cow. Please… put the cow on top of a milk truck or something.


  296. 297 morpheus45 June 14, 2008 at 8:23 pm

    That’s the surest way to KEEP me from revolting; give me a nice juicy steak. Medium rare indeed; anything over that is overcooked. See? Now I gotta go raid the fridge. Trying to diet around y’all is impossible.


  297. 298 morpheus45 June 14, 2008 at 8:27 pm

    A 40 foot cow on a milk truck? That wouldn’t corner very well. I admit cows aren’t very fierce, but couldn’t we apply reverse psychology here? Like we’re so manly, we can get away with having a giant cow as a mascot?

    Remember the words of the mighty Frank Perdue: “It takes a tough man to make a tender chicken.” True dat, Frank.


  298. 299 Savannah Guy June 14, 2008 at 8:35 pm

    Yea, easy for Frank to say… he had the ‘good fellas’ watchin’ his back.

    Grinch… I will never be able to change your mind about anything. Not politics, not cow mascots, nuthin’. So I’m giving up on trying. You’re too stubborn. Besides, who cares about a damn ol’ cow anyway.

    OK, one more time, one last try and that’s it… alright, I’ll buy you a beer if you agree the cow is a bad idea. But that’s it. Not trying after that… not gawn doit. Woodn’t b prewdent. :mrgreen:


  299. 300 Savannah Guy June 14, 2008 at 8:39 pm

    Now, after all of that cow stuff (first on blog?) I’m going to the store and get a big, fat, juicy…
    rotisserie chicken. 😆


  300. 301 Berigan 3, part 3, in 3-D June 14, 2008 at 8:56 pm

    “Also don’t think a big, silly, chopping moo is the right kind of image to put over the Ted, regardless of sponsor or stadium profitability. Is nothing sacred?”

    SG, how the heck did you not say something, somewheres about sacred cows??? 😛


  301. 302 morpheus45 June 14, 2008 at 8:59 pm

    Sorry, I suppose I’m just partial to cows. They’ve given me much pleasure over the years (FOOD wise…don’t go there). I’d be cool with a giant pig, too, but looking up at it while at a game might cause me to have a flashback Pink Floyd style. Friday night fireworks too? Yikes. How ’bout if we just split a pitcher (of beer) or three instead?



  302. 303 morpheus45 June 14, 2008 at 9:00 pm

    Oh, my.


  303. 304 Berigan 3, part 3, in 3-D June 14, 2008 at 9:22 pm

    Charlie Morton struck out the first two guys of the first…and was horribly squezzed by the ump. First curve to Garrett Anderson was a perfect strike, but called a ball. 😡 so, if he doesn’t win, would be the umps fault, IMHO. He looked very good this first inning, didn’t he????


  304. 305 Berigan 3, part 3, in 3-D June 14, 2008 at 9:25 pm

    squezzed and squeezed….


  305. 306 chrisklob June 14, 2008 at 9:41 pm

    B, Charlie’s looking good so far. One nice thing about him making the start in the AL park is that he doesn’t have to hit. That’s got to take a little pressure off of him in his debut.


  306. 307 Savannah Guy June 14, 2008 at 9:46 pm

    Bear, don’t even get me started on umps. I’d tie most of them to the politicians that are tied to the anchor. It’s gotten way out of hand.

    Good point Klobber… Morton just thinkin’ about pitching has to help.

    Brandon Jones needs to judge whether he can get to those balls before laying out. Just turned a single into a triple.


  307. 308 Berigan 3, part 3, in 3-D June 14, 2008 at 9:52 pm

    I think I can say after 2 2/3rds innings that with no hyperbole, Charlie Morton is the best braves pitcher ever!!!! :mrgreen:


  308. 309 Berigan 3, part 3, in 3-D June 14, 2008 at 9:54 pm

    crap….I’ll shut up now…ump has made Morton throw 10-15 more pitches than necessary. Like having to pitch around 2 errors, hard to do.


  309. 310 Carolina Lady June 14, 2008 at 9:54 pm



  310. 311 Berigan 3, part 3, in 3-D June 14, 2008 at 9:57 pm

    And to be fair, that was no strike that Morton got, way inside!

    Reyes looked great yesterday, but from a pure stuff viewpoint, I’d say Morton is even better. That change-up is something else!!!


  311. 312 flbravesgirl June 14, 2008 at 10:03 pm

    Good evening y’all. So far I like Charlie.

    Grinch, where the heck have you been?


  312. 313 chrisklob June 14, 2008 at 10:13 pm

    Berigan, I find it interesting to look at mlb gameday to follow the pitches. Since every park’s CF camera is in a little different location, it makes it tough to see what’s really in the zone or not. It’s pretty interesting to see certain pitches and what the umpire calls them.

    Good start to the fifth inning!

    Grinch, welcome back!

    Lew, Happy Birthday! This one’s for you!


  313. 314 Berigan 3, part 3, in 3-D June 14, 2008 at 10:22 pm

    Wow!!!! Never seen McCain hit one the other way on the ground like that before!!! If aliens have kidnapped the old team, and replaced them with this one, that’s ok!!! 😀


  314. 315 Carolina Lady June 14, 2008 at 10:23 pm

    Any chance of us moving the Ted to CA??


  315. 316 Berigan 3, part 3, in 3-D June 14, 2008 at 10:24 pm

    Man, does the cameraman just have a sense when a player(Like Frenchy right now) is going to pick his ____??? (____ a dirty word no longer used on this board! 🙂 )


  316. 317 Berigan 3, part 3, in 3-D June 14, 2008 at 10:26 pm

    CL, 😀


  317. 318 Savannah Guy June 14, 2008 at 10:30 pm

    Bobby must be rubbing off on Francene. Well, he can’t hit… may as well pick. 🙄


  318. 319 Savannah Guy June 14, 2008 at 10:33 pm

    Bear, does McCain play baseball too? We know he can run but can he handle home conservatively? 😆


  319. 320 flbravesgirl June 14, 2008 at 10:34 pm

    Thanks for sharing that, B. 🙄 Getting the Angels broadcast here. They know nada about the Braves.


  320. 321 Savannah Guy June 14, 2008 at 10:35 pm

    CL, not sure what got into these boys but CA does seem to suit them.

    Brandon Jones hits his first. The way that looked it won’t be his last. Crushed.


  321. 322 Berigan 3, part 3, in 3-D June 14, 2008 at 10:35 pm

    Like I said before, I am so glad Brandon Jones was called up! 😛


  322. 323 Berigan 3, part 3, in 3-D June 14, 2008 at 10:41 pm

    FLB, what are they saying about the braves?? They must think they are the best team in the NL after the last two games!!!


  323. 324 Carolina Lady June 14, 2008 at 10:43 pm

    B3, I have that feed, too – they seem impressed by the Braves, lots of talk about Chipper. They had George Brett on by phone for 2 innings or so on the .400. However, they only seem to know what the media guide tells them.

    I’m only checking in every few minutes – catching up on research – and just made a HUGE breakthrough! 😀

    FBG can give you more detail.


  324. 325 flbravesgirl June 14, 2008 at 10:44 pm

    They are in awe of Chipper & Bobby.

    Great to see Brandon hit his first HR. Nice one by Kelly too.


  325. 326 Berigan 3, part 3, in 3-D June 14, 2008 at 10:45 pm

    She has more info on your HUGE breakthrough???? 🙂


  326. 327 flbravesgirl June 14, 2008 at 10:46 pm

    You’ll have to give me some pointers someday, CL. I know my dad would like to trace his family back.


  327. 328 Berigan 3, part 3, in 3-D June 14, 2008 at 10:48 pm

    SG, they just showed the Coors light Freeze cam shot of Brandon Jones near miss, and it looked like he missed that ball by one inch! Lucky for him the triple didn’t score(Did it? Don’t think it did…that was a long time ago)


  328. 329 chrisklob June 14, 2008 at 10:53 pm

    B, the triple didn’t score. Matthews got caught in a run down between Chipper and Mac.


  329. 330 Carolina Lady June 14, 2008 at 10:56 pm

    B3, you’re a smart aleck! 😆 😆


  330. 331 Berigan 3, part 3, in 3-D June 14, 2008 at 10:58 pm

    CL, I tried being a dumb aleck, not as much fun!
    Chris, that rings some bells now!
    Charlie Morton has some guts, lots of change-ups! I wonder if that is the pitch that has turned him around for him????


  331. 332 flbravesgirl June 14, 2008 at 10:59 pm

    Almost had a heart attack when Vlad hit that ball right at Charlie’s head. 😯 I think the adrenaline might be wearing off but this was a good debut for him.


  332. 333 chrisklob June 14, 2008 at 10:59 pm

    Braking News! Phillies lose to the Cards, 3-2!


  333. 334 Berigan 3, part 3, in 3-D June 14, 2008 at 11:12 pm

    Chris, I could have sworn that news broke hours ago, but thanks anyway! 😉

    I would have liked to see Acosta get one more day off, but I like the idea of him coming in without the game on the line. I really think he can close, he was doing fine til everyone seemed to implode at once. Just don’t make him go out for 2 innings Bobby!


  334. 335 flbravesgirl June 14, 2008 at 11:16 pm

    Better inning for Acosta. Let’s allow him to build off that, OK Bobby?

    Also the Angels guys are really praising Mac’s throws.


  335. 336 morpheus45 June 14, 2008 at 11:25 pm

    I tried to tell y’all about Morton; his stuff’s as good as anybodies. With Reyes coming along (and if Jurjens’ elbow doesn’t explode from overuse), that’s lookin’ like 3/5’s of a young, talented and inexpensive rotation for next year.

    Howdy, Chris; long time and all that. Thanks for saving me a seat.

    FBG, are they really praising his throws or are you just so full of internal praise you’re projecting it?


  336. 337 morpheus45 June 14, 2008 at 11:28 pm

    And HOW ‘BOUT THEM DAWGS? Knocked off #1 Miami in the CWS. The Dawg’s closer (also NCAA stopper of the year) hit 98 on the radar gun (with movement) and had a 12-6 curve that broke about 3 feet (and doesn’t lack for confidence). Had 59 strikeouts in 34 innings this year. Too bad he went to Seattle in the draft.


  337. 338 Berigan 3, part 3, in 3-D June 14, 2008 at 11:29 pm

    Hey Grinch!!! I saw this from Drummerdad on the other blog…

    Angels commentator just described Acosta as being all over the place after 16 pitches. They love BMac.

    I know, I know, I shouldn’t read there even…wouldn’t need to if some of the folks who are on both blogs, would, you know…blog on both blogs! 😛


  338. 339 Berigan 3, part 3, in 3-D June 14, 2008 at 11:31 pm

    Grinch, Brandon Jones wasn’t looking like this in spring training, was he???


  339. 340 flbravesgirl June 14, 2008 at 11:32 pm

    Yes, they really are, you brat. 😉


  340. 341 morpheus45 June 14, 2008 at 11:34 pm

    No, man, he was not. He played in left with Schaeffer in center and Anderson in right, and those two outshone him so much I found myself a couple of times wondering what the big deal was supposed to be (especially since he made one of those fabulous diving misses in the game they played against UGA). I fully expected both of them to be up first.


  341. 342 Carolina Lady June 14, 2008 at 11:35 pm

    Would you believe the Angels’ guys are advertising chicken sandwiches?? 😆


  342. 343 Carolina Lady June 14, 2008 at 11:37 pm

    Maybe this will get the monkey off the backs of the Braves. Both losing and losing on the road.

    The announcers just said “Seems that Southern California agrees with the Atlanta Braves!”

    Ya think? 😆


  343. 344 flbravesgirl June 14, 2008 at 11:38 pm

    I think they’re reading the blog, CL!


  344. 345 morpheus45 June 14, 2008 at 11:39 pm

    Hi, CL; you haven’t said anything to me since about three days before I left. I was gonna wait ’till you did, but I guess you just outlasted me. Whoa, just checked the gametracker and saw three more runs. What’s up with that? I’ll be right back.


  345. 347 Berigan 3, part 3, in 3-D June 14, 2008 at 11:50 pm

    Yeah, I missed the scoring as well….amazing that we are having our way with a 1st place AL team, on the road!!!! 😯


  346. 348 flbravesgirl June 14, 2008 at 11:50 pm

    Geez, Bobby, do we really need to use the entire bullpen with a 6 run lead?


  347. 349 Berigan 3, part 3, in 3-D June 15, 2008 at 12:00 am

    Gotta keep ’em sharp FLB! That’s why McCain (:P ) is still out there catching, even though this would be a perfect opportunity for Corky to get a little work, and rest McCann a little, since McCann just made an out in the top of the 9th….


  348. 350 Berigan 3, part 3, in 3-D June 15, 2008 at 12:06 am

    now Bennett is getting loose, in a 9-4 game…I guarantee next year he will either suck, or be on the DL for much of the year….Wouldn’t want to use Stockman in a mop up role, would ya chief????


  349. 351 Berigan 3, part 3, in 3-D June 15, 2008 at 12:10 am

    Yes, braves win, BRAVES WIN! Now, let’s sweep them tomorrow!!!!


  350. 352 flbravesgirl June 15, 2008 at 12:11 am

    Why won’t he use Stockman? Oh well, I won’t complain. Braves win!! Woohoo!!


  351. 353 morpheus45 June 15, 2008 at 12:16 am

    Good deal. Now, snooze…later, all.


  352. 354 Carolina Lady June 15, 2008 at 12:20 am

    OOPS!!! Missed Grinch’s greeting whilst multi-tasking (forgot to refresh the browser). HEY, GRINCH!! 😆 Sorry, I’ve been greatly distracted these last few weeks and have only had moments to dash in here and there. My apologies!! Do I have to go to the dog house?? 😀


  353. 355 Berigan 3, part 3, in 3-D June 15, 2008 at 12:25 am

    You know Grinch is getting older when he is going to bed on a Saturday night….at Midnight! :mrgreen:


  354. 356 flbravesgirl June 15, 2008 at 12:43 am

    Time to read. Good night y’all.


  355. 357 Berigan 3, part 3, in 3-D June 15, 2008 at 5:45 am

    If Grinch had a theme song, this should be it!!!! :mrgreen:

    Best song I have heard this year….


  356. 358 Berigan 3, part 3, in 3-D June 15, 2008 at 5:55 am

    haven’t heard many good songs this year! 😛


  357. 359 Gil in Mechanicsville June 15, 2008 at 7:20 am

    My, what a difference a day makes…


  358. 360 Gil in Mechanicsville June 15, 2008 at 7:33 am

    Notes from last night’s Richmond game…

    GAME 1: Rarely will you see a center fielder retreat a few steps on a well-hit fly ball and stop. A left fielder or a right fielder maybe, but not a center fielder because of the ample distance to the fence.

    Which might give you an idea of how far Eldred crushed his first home run.

    Eldred hammered what had to be one of the farthest balls hit at The Diamond. R-Braves center fielder Josh Anderson took a few steps back, stopped and watched as Eldred’s ball not only cleared the fence but cleared the dark green batter’s eye.

    The fence in center is 402 feet from home plate. The batter’s eye is about 25 feet high.

    Eldred, who is 6-5, 275 pounds and goes by “Big Country,” is known for his power and strikeout totals (one every 3.2 at-bats during his career). He leads the International League in home runs (24) and RBI (67).

    The 27-year-old Eldred hit 38 homers in 2004 and 40 in ’05, when he became only the third player to hit 10 or more home runs at three levels (Erubiel Durazo in 1999, Adam Dunn in 2001). He was released by Pittsburgh after last season and signed as a free agent by the Chicago White Sox.

    Wes Whisler and Mike MacDougal combined on a four-hit shutout. Richmond has been blanked seven times this season.

    EARLY EXIT: R-Braves third baseman Wes Timmons had to leave Game 2 after injuring his left ankle in the first inning. He lined a RBI single down the right-field line, took an aggressive turn toward second base, then put on the brakes. He clutched his left ankle after returning to the bag and eventually limped to the dugout.


  359. 361 Carolina Lady June 15, 2008 at 9:29 am

    ‘Morning, Gil! I really enjoy reading your Richmond reports! Thanks!!


  360. 362 Savannah Guy June 15, 2008 at 9:32 am

    Good report from Richmond Gil. Eldred sound like a monster. When/if he gets those strikeouts down and starts drawing some walks he’ll be a major threat.

    How’s Josh looking up there? Playing with vim ad vigor since being sent up there.. uh, sent down… up there?


  361. 363 Savannah Guy June 15, 2008 at 9:41 am

    Mornin’ CL! You sound chipper on this fine day. 🙂


  362. 364 Carolina Lady June 15, 2008 at 10:12 am

    ‘Morning, SG! Got a little more sleep last night, thank Goodness!! Not being used to more than a couple of hours here and there, I awoke feeling groggy-headed. 🙂

    Expert: Clemens could be indicted
    Posted: Saturday June 14, 2008 08:30AM ET
    The Justice Department has kept the details of its Roger Clemens investigation quiet, but lawyers who have been following the case said the feds probably already have more than enough evidence to indict Clemens on perjury charges. The evidence that has been public – testimony from Andy Pettitte and Brian McNamee, as well as the bloody gauze pads, used syringes and steroid vials McNamee turned over to authorities in January could be used against Clemens – should be sufficient for the Washington, D.C., prosecutors who are guiding the case to bring before a grand jury and ask for an indictment, said Golden Gate University law professor Peter Keane.

    New York Daily News


  363. 365 Carolina Lady June 15, 2008 at 10:15 am


    Anybody can be a father but it takes somebody special to be a Dad!


  364. 366 Savannah Guy June 15, 2008 at 10:36 am

    I awoke feeling groggy-headed.

    Is there any other way to feel when waking up? Am I missing something? 😀


  365. 368 Savannah Guy June 15, 2008 at 11:10 am

    Is Salty around? I just got caught in the trap. Baron Von Trappe is at it again.


  366. 369 flbravesgirl June 15, 2008 at 11:38 am

    Good morning y’all. SG, no, there is no other way to feel when waking up. But then I am not a morning person.


  367. 370 Pappy June 15, 2008 at 12:06 pm

    He, or she, who hoots with the owls by night can not soar with the eagles by day.


  368. 371 Pappy June 15, 2008 at 12:14 pm

    Oh, I forgot to give proper attribution to that quote. –Paris Hilton–


  369. 372 flbravesgirl June 15, 2008 at 12:23 pm

    I think you’ve been misled, uncle. That’s too long of a sentence to have come from that moronic tramp.


  370. 373 Pappy June 15, 2008 at 12:42 pm

    Britney Spears? 😛


  371. 374 Pappy June 15, 2008 at 12:46 pm

    Also, I’m hurt that no one has wished me a Happy Pappy Day. “Anyone can be a father. It takes someone special to be a Dad. And, you have to be older than indigenous rock to be a Pappy.”


  372. 375 Pappy June 15, 2008 at 1:01 pm

    My Father would be 109. The first “Father’s Day” was in 1956. We could give him something made out of Popsicle sticks or something like that, but NOTHING store-bought. He said, “It’s just another scheme the merchants came up with to spend my money.” Think about it. How many gifts will be bought today with “Fathers” money? And that continued even when we would have been spending out money.


  373. 376 Pappy June 15, 2008 at 1:02 pm

    out should be our.


  374. 377 Savannah Guy June 15, 2008 at 1:21 pm

    Happy Pappy’s day Pappy. There. Mean it. 😀


  375. 378 Savannah Guy June 15, 2008 at 1:28 pm

    Try again… this got eaten in the trap earlier:

    b>Yep, just another perfect Sunday!


  376. 379 Savannah Guy June 15, 2008 at 1:29 pm

    Strange, WordPress is changing the rules. Try again:

    An old favorite.


  377. 380 Savannah Guy June 15, 2008 at 1:34 pm

    There… now all is well in the world and the links work.

    My ‘boy’ (strapping 23 year old) just left after coming over with a Dad’s Day card. A big ‘ol country boy breakfast was enjoyed and he’s off to hookup with buds.

    Pappy, I guess I grew up at the end of the era you’re talking about. My dad got ties and other useless items. But we always, always hung out together on Father’s Day. Or at least until after church and lunch… then it was off to do whatever kids do.


  378. 381 Pappy June 15, 2008 at 2:26 pm

    Thanks SG, I enjoyed that. Although Paul Simon had tons more talent than Art Garfunkel, their voices fit together nicely. I hated it when they went seperate ways.


  379. 382 Savannah Guy June 15, 2008 at 2:31 pm

    Yep, they were great together. Simon did a lot of good stuff on his own but Art didn’t have much, if anything after they split.

    Speaking of split, I’ve gotta make like a tree and leaf. Mrs. Guy is back home after a week… and has me joining her on an outdoor birdbath shopping mission.

    See y’all later.


  380. 383 Bob, journalist June 15, 2008 at 3:07 pm

    Happy Father’s Day to all … no, we mustn’t forget the ladies … nor the kids … were it not for them, there wouldn’t be no daddies!

    None better to do the lead post covering this day than Mister Gil … a man of experience and experiences … like Lamont Cranston, he knows!

    Funny thing about Daddies, and Mommies too … you can disappoint them a million times … make them so mad they can’t see straight … but, regardless of any contrary protestations, methinks they’ll always love you and find ways to be proud, regardless of your flaws, missteps and misdeeds … doggone if they don’t stand up for you … and beside you, when others walk away.

    Their’s is hard work and methinks they’re underpaid!

    Let them know that you love them and that you care … today and every day! Find ways to be proud, regardless of their flaws, missteps and misdeeds … stand up for them … and beside them, when others walk away.

    Methinks you don’t really know what you’ve got … until you lose it. I miss them; Mama and Daddy … goodness how I miss them … and though I told them, perhaps 10,000 times, how much I loved them … 10 million times would not have been enough … goodness how I miss them, today and every day.

    I’ve often said that if you replaced all the Commandments with “Do only those things which will make your parents and children proud” … the good Lord would, as Leonard Slye might say, take a liking to you!

    … and others will too.

    God Bless!


  381. 384 Berigan 3, part 3, in 3-D June 15, 2008 at 7:42 pm

    Well said Bob, very well said!!!


  382. 386 Savannah Guy June 15, 2008 at 9:00 pm

    That’s a great link CL. I’ll play around there soon, when my brain is more rested. Or maybe it’s the moon causing my laziness.

    Well, this game is moving along fast. A good pitchers duel shaping up and not many pitches thrown by either. Campillo continues to impress.


  383. 387 Carolina Lady June 15, 2008 at 9:05 pm

    Anybody know anything about this guy?
    “His (Morton’s) turnaround came after adjustments — mental and physical — late last season under the tutelage of Class AA Mississippi pitching coach Derek Botelho.


  384. 388 Berigan 3, part 3, in 3-D June 15, 2008 at 9:42 pm

    And yet again, another Lefty perplexes us….


  385. 389 Carolina Lady June 15, 2008 at 10:05 pm

    Raisins, JB and Salty, y’all are up next! 😀


  386. 390 flbravesgirl June 15, 2008 at 10:35 pm

    Good evening y’all. Hope a Happy Father’s Day was had by all.

    Campillo deserved a better fate. Another very good outing.


  387. 391 flbravesgirl June 15, 2008 at 11:55 pm

    Boy, y’all sure are chatty tonight.


  388. 392 Berigan 3, part 3, in 3-D June 16, 2008 at 12:18 am



  389. 393 flbravesgirl June 16, 2008 at 12:24 am

    Hello? Was that a sign of life?


  390. 394 flbravesgirl June 16, 2008 at 12:31 am

    Guess not. Good night.


  391. 395 Berigan 3, part 3, in 3-D June 16, 2008 at 12:34 am

    hey, had to check out the rest of the internet, one never knows, does one, when folks will come back to the old B&S. Later FLB.


  392. 396 Berigan 3, part 3, in 3-D June 16, 2008 at 12:55 am

    Gil and others might find this article interesting on the Nats…


  393. 397 Gil in Mechanicsville June 16, 2008 at 4:27 am

    Well folks, a tad bit disappointed with the team tonight but not too much. Campillo deserved a better fate. It’s tough for a pitcher to win without support from the offense.

    Bear… Yes, the naysayers in Washington want the typical Washington solution, “Got a problem? Throw money at it….” The real problem with the Nats is a lack of reliable relief pitching. Sound familiar?

    Tiger Woods’ display of his temper tantrum on the 18th hole today reminds me of why I don’t like him. He is a great golfer but not a great person. Like too many, everything is fine as long as things are working for him, other golfers need to learn how to use his lack of humility against him. He would be a guy that would not last 5 minutes on a baseball team because he could not handle the ridicule from the fans when he failed.

    I’m rooting for Rocco today….

    And thanks Bob, I miss my own Dad greatly… He will always be remembered as long as I am alive as he was a wonderful role model for which any son could be proud.


  394. 398 Gil in Mechanicsville June 16, 2008 at 9:23 am

    The Richmond Braves beat the Charlotte Knights 3-1 Sunday at The Diamond. Chuck James pitched seven scoreless innings, running his string of consecutive scoreless innings to 14, to lead the Braves.

    Richmond picked up all the offense they would need in the fourth inning on a two-run home run by Jason Perry. The Braves added a run in the fifth when a sacrifice fly by Josh Anderson cashed in a leadoff triple by Brent Lillibridge. The Knights evaded a shutout in the eighth thanks to a solo home run by Jared Price.

    James earned the win striking out 8 while lowering his ERA to 1.18. Mike Gonzales picked up a save. Charlie Haeger took the loss. Lillibridge had three hits for the Braves.


  395. 399 flbravesgirl June 16, 2008 at 9:52 am

    Good morning y’all.

    7 scoreless innings for Chucky? What happened to him? Didn’t know he could do that.


  396. 400 Pappy June 16, 2008 at 10:07 am

    Does Chucky have some cheese, now?


  397. 401 flbravesgirl June 16, 2008 at 10:17 am

    😆 uncle. Did you have a nice Father’s Day?


  398. 402 Berigan 3, part 3, in 3-D June 16, 2008 at 10:36 am

    Gil, have you heard if Chuck has finally found a 3rd pitch?????


  399. 403 lew614 June 16, 2008 at 10:38 am

    I am damned sick and tired of trifled toes and messed up eyes.


  400. 404 Berigan 3, part 3, in 3-D June 16, 2008 at 10:49 am

    From Peter Gammons…..

    Sometime in the next month, Braves GM Frank Wren and Bobby Cox will decide whether or not they can stay within hailing distance of the Phillies, considering all their injuries. Wren plans to do similar due diligence to what Shapiro has initiated, and if the Braves are buried too far in the NL East, they will see if they can get more than they would with two draft picks. Agent Scott Boras is not likely to do a trade and sign deal, unless the Angels were to decide they could DH Casey Kotchman each day and were willing to deal right-handed pitcher Nick Adenhart, as the Braves need to start retooling their arms.

    Shouldn’t we ask for Kotchman back??? We can’t trade Tex without getting a 1st baseman back, can we????


  401. 405 Berigan 3, part 3, in 3-D June 16, 2008 at 10:52 am

    Hey Lew!!! Heard you had a birthday the other day! That happens! 😉 Hope it was a good one…though from the sound of your post, having toe and eye issues??? That sucks. Infection in the toe, or circulatory problems???


  402. 406 flbravesgirl June 16, 2008 at 10:55 am

    Hi Lew!!!!! 🙂 🙂 🙂


  403. 407 lew614 June 16, 2008 at 10:59 am

    Berigan-You and I need to have a serious discussion some day soon. I’m still somewhat righteously indignant with you. However……..

    I have a red toe, likely from something stupid like an abrasion from Athlete’s foot. I am on antibiotics and see the Man (podiatrist ) tomorrow. I will live.

    I’m also tired of self righteous old Farts, but considering I qualify there, I suppose I’ll have to live with it. Ain’t calling anyone Pappy, though. He’ll have to deal with Paladin or Old Fart. Them’s my terms.


  404. 408 Berigan 3, part 3, in 3-D June 16, 2008 at 11:06 am

    Ask him what he thinks of manuka honey, good, bad or indifferent. I’m sure you have heard of it. We tried it on a bad sore my Mom had on her heal(Had a name, but seem to have forgotten what it was called)…seemed to help some….


  405. 409 lew614 June 16, 2008 at 11:14 am

    Never heard of it. Savannah Guy sent me some Savannah Bee Company Honey, I wonder……Nah-It would make my socks too sticky. Sticky socks are not to be tolerated.


  406. 410 flbravesgirl June 16, 2008 at 11:16 am

    Sticky socks? Not good anytime but particularly bad in summer.


  407. 411 Hillbilly June 16, 2008 at 11:18 am


    The Braves most recent acquisition joins the long list of the walking wounded. After feeling elbow stiffness, an MRI revealed a slight tear in the Ulnar Collateral Ligament, and Tommy John Surgery has been schedueled for June 20th. The giant tomahawk cow could not be reached for comments but his recovery period is expected to be 12-18 months.


  408. 412 Pappy June 16, 2008 at 11:19 am

    Welcome back, Lewis. And you can call me anything(including self-righteous) if you do so with a smile. Smiley faces are NOT required.

    Yes niece, I had a nice Pappy Day. Hope your Dad did, as well.


  409. 413 Hillbilly June 16, 2008 at 11:23 am

    What’s up Lew-ser? Ha, ha, ha… Nice to see your return. And Grinch too. Also, while I’m at it, I didn’t get a chance to welcome TennesseePaul to the den of iniquity, last week.

    welcome my son, welcome to the machine
    where have you been? It’s alright we know where you’ve been.


  410. 414 flbravesgirl June 16, 2008 at 11:26 am

    😆 Hillbilly. I’ve got to tell my mom about the giant chopping cow. She thinks the billboards are cute.

    He did, uncle. He was well-fed, taken to the beach & given presents & musical cards.


  411. 415 Pappy June 16, 2008 at 11:30 am

    Niece; I was taken to the beach, too. And left. Took me 3 hours to hitch a ride home.


  412. 416 flbravesgirl June 16, 2008 at 11:32 am

    By your family? 😯


  413. 417 Berigan 3, part 3, in 3-D June 16, 2008 at 11:32 am

    I have far too many memories of my Mom’s terrible health her last years, but so help me, I cannot remember how we put this on her! I imagine you would have to put it under some gauze, perhaps just at night when you slept….

    some info….
    updated 12:11 p.m. ET, Wed., Dec. 26, 2007

    TRENTON, New Jersey – Amid growing concern over drug-resistant superbugs and nonhealing wounds that endanger diabetes patients, nature’s original antibiotic — honey — is making a comeback.

    More than 4,000 years after Egyptians began applying honey to wounds, Derma Sciences Inc., a New Jersey company that makes medicated and other advanced wound care products, began selling the first honey-based dressing this fall after it was approved by the U.S. Food and Drug Administration.

    Called Medihoney, it is made from a highly absorbent seaweed-based material, saturated with manuka honey, a particularly potent type that experts say kills germs and speeds healing. Also called Leptospermum honey, manuka honey comes from hives of bees that collect nectar from manuka and jelly bushes in Australia and New Zealand.

    It goes on from there, didn’t want to post the whole long thing…



  414. 418 Pappy June 16, 2008 at 11:33 am

    That’s what they told Nurse Ratched.


  415. 419 flbravesgirl June 16, 2008 at 11:36 am

    I did see a Father’s Day card that read “Family is the most important thing in the world”.

    Inside: “They choose your nursing home”.


  416. 420 Pappy June 16, 2008 at 11:37 am

    Honey has been used through the years for snake bite. It is easier to talk someone into sucking the puncture site if it is slathered with honey. Or so they say.


  417. 421 lew614 June 16, 2008 at 11:43 am

    Actually, honey is a unique substance. It is the only food made by insects eaten by humans and is the only food substance that does not decay or rot.


  418. 422 lew614 June 16, 2008 at 11:44 am

    And Just Who gave me an avatar? This may be grounds for leaving again.


  419. 423 flbravesgirl June 16, 2008 at 11:45 am

    WordPress, Lew. It decided to randomly give people avatars if they don’t have one.


  420. 424 Pappy June 16, 2008 at 11:47 am

    Lewis; WordPress is the villian. As CL explained to TnPaul, if you don’t choose one, it chooses for you. Nice likeness.


  421. 425 Pappy June 16, 2008 at 11:51 am

    Speaking of decay and rot: Where is SG? 😛


  422. 427 lew614 June 16, 2008 at 11:54 am

    Savannah Guy is probably resting after spending all day yesterday talking me into returning.


  423. 428 Hillbilly June 16, 2008 at 12:01 pm

    Honey has been used through the years for snake bite. It is easier to talk someone into sucking the puncture site if it is slathered with honey. Or so they say

    Pappy, I’d say it also depends on who got bit and where. There’s not enough honey in the world for folks as ugly as you or Lew. 🙂 Good thing he lives in Vermont where the snakes stay covered in snow for 10 our of 12 months.


  424. 429 Berigan 3, part 3, in 3-D June 16, 2008 at 12:02 pm

    avatar looks a bit like frylock, on a bad day. 🙂

    Is there anyone here young enough to know frylock??? FLB? Grinch perhaps???


  425. 430 Hillbilly June 16, 2008 at 12:06 pm

    I’m younger than Grinch I I have no idea what in the the he11 you’re talking about, B-3.


  426. 431 Hillbilly June 16, 2008 at 12:07 pm

    Yeah, I I know. Spare me 😉


  427. 432 flbravesgirl June 16, 2008 at 12:10 pm

    ??? Berigan? Sorry, not familiar with the evil-looking french fries.


  428. 433 Berigan 3, part 3, in 3-D June 16, 2008 at 12:23 pm

    Hello??? Aqua Teen Hunger Force??? Sigh…nuttin’ but old people on this hear board.

    Best theme for a TV show, eva!!!

    My name is Shake-Zula,
    the mic rulah,
    the old schoolah,
    you wanna trip, I’ll break it to ya.
    Frylock and I’m on top rock you like a cop,
    Meatwad you’re up next with your knock-knock.
    Meatwad make the money see,
    Meatwad get the honeys G.
    Drivin in my car, livin like a star,
    ice on my fingers and my toes and I’m a Taurus.
    Cause we are the Aqua Teens,
    make the homeys say ho and the girlies wanna scream.


  429. 434 Berigan 3, part 3, in 3-D June 16, 2008 at 12:25 pm

    This YOUNG man is now gonna put on some 30’s jazz, or an old B&W film…better yet, I’ll go out in my shiny Lincoln, and like the youngsters say, paint the town red!!! 😕


  430. 435 flbravesgirl June 16, 2008 at 12:28 pm

    Berigan, what on Earth are you talking about? This is something on TV?


  431. 436 Carolina Lady June 16, 2008 at 12:28 pm

    Lew, you have made me so happy. 🙂 Missed you very much! (SG, 4 Gold Stars for you!!)

    Hillbilly!!! Where ya been??!!! How’s that beautiful baby boy?? Got pictures??


  432. 437 Carolina Lady June 16, 2008 at 12:30 pm

    Berigan, are you smoking something funny?? What on earth was that??


  433. 438 flbravesgirl June 16, 2008 at 12:34 pm

    I guess it’s a TV show, CL. Reinforces my theory of “700 channels & nothing worth watching”.


  434. 439 Carolina Lady June 16, 2008 at 12:35 pm

    Ludwick making strong case for MVP

    They think this guy is more deserving than Chipper???


  435. 440 flbravesgirl June 16, 2008 at 12:37 pm

    Who?? What are they trying to pull? 😡


  436. 441 Berigan 3, part 3, in 3-D June 16, 2008 at 12:41 pm

    Admittedly, an acquired taste! 😆 Took me a few years to be able to sit thru a whole show…


  437. 442 flbravesgirl June 16, 2008 at 12:43 pm

    Just becausing he’s having a good year in his first full-time season that does not make him a MVP candidate. Give me a break. This guy couldn’t find anything to write about today obviously.


  438. 443 flbravesgirl June 16, 2008 at 12:44 pm

    “becausing”? Sorry, writing while indignant.


  439. 444 Berigan 3, part 3, in 3-D June 16, 2008 at 12:49 pm

    The only thing I can think of about Ludwick, is that IF the Cards finished in first, or won the Wildcard race, he’d be a big part of the reason. Chipper’s hitting over .400, and we are still in a tie for 3rd place, 6 1/2 games back.

    Now if Chipper manages to hit .400 for the whole season??? he HAS to be the MVP! If he hits .370 for the year, and we are in 3rd place, then It’s likely the MVP is Utley…


  440. 445 Berigan 3, part 3, in 3-D June 16, 2008 at 12:50 pm

    You’ll be cussin’ if he is the MVP, FLB! 😛


  441. 446 flbravesgirl June 16, 2008 at 12:51 pm

    No, I won’t.


  442. 447 Pappy June 16, 2008 at 12:55 pm

    I had to leave for a while but it was just as well since Berigan(as usual)turned the “conversation” to something totally incomprehensible. Even to him.


  443. 448 Pappy June 16, 2008 at 12:59 pm

    Hillbilly; Lew and I are snake bite proofed. Me, because of the “proof” of my blood and Lew because the snake is afraid Lew will bite him back.


  444. 449 Carolina Lady June 16, 2008 at 12:59 pm

    ‘becausing’. I like it! 😆


  445. 450 flbravesgirl June 16, 2008 at 1:00 pm

    I’m glad I wasn’t the only one confuzzled by that.


  446. 451 Pappy June 16, 2008 at 1:16 pm

    Going in for lunch and nap. See y’all later.


  447. 452 lew614 June 16, 2008 at 1:18 pm

    No, I only have half my teeth and can’t stand the partial plates. Up here I tell people I used to play hockey. It works. Down South I would just have to claim to be a redneck.

    Best reason I’ll not get snake bit is because I stay away from snakes.

    CL-Glad I made you happy. Thought the syrup would be enough, but I suppose not. It’s much sweeter than I am, though, even if I do scare the snakes away.


  448. 453 Voice of Raisins June 16, 2008 at 2:45 pm

    Hey everybody!!!

    Work is killin’ me. This whole office dismantling thing is seriously digging into my play time.

    Welcome back, Lew. Happy belated Birthday!


  449. 454 Pappy June 16, 2008 at 2:49 pm

    Lew did you have a belated birthday? I had one of those, one time. They are very difficult to pass. Happy anyway.


  450. 455 Savannah Guy June 16, 2008 at 5:12 pm

    Just dropped in to see what condition my condition was in. After reading Berigan’s post I guess I’m doing better than I thought. No, actually I just dropped in to have a sanity break… way too many meetings and clients and such. Three days of the same coming.

    Real nice to see Lew visiting Stuffville. Yes, seaweed and honey (or sugar) are ancient natural healing substances used for wound care and reducing bacterial contamination… these were both used on Mrs. Guy after her surgery and both worked well. Must be the right kind purchased from the proper source of course, but they can work wonders.

    Hopefully Lew will set up an art gallery on Main Street in that vacant building between Klobber’s Saloon and Raisins music store, just down from Hillbilly’s Trophy Room and taxidermy shop. FBG has a cute little bakery nearby called The Red Velvet. Many cakes, pies, cupcakes and cookies found there.

    Across the street, CL has her eclectic little graphic design, genealogy and birdhouse boutique. Next to that, Bear runs his late-night vintage movie house. Right at the corner of Main and Richmond Streets, you’ll find Gil’s auto and boat repair shop called Mechanicsville. Bob’s hot tub and computer repair place is just down the way on the corner of Main and Acme Avenue.

    Next to the Maytag lint filter repair station, Salty has his sundries and spice shop, named Tiger Paw Unlimited. Then, toward the end of Main there’s the three-story building that houses the writing studios that Scribe, Grinch and JB share. They each have their own story and they’re sticking to it.

    On the corner of Main and Barrister Streets you’ll find the law firm of Willy, Wally & Pappy, LLC. Seems all is well in this sometimes sleepy and occasionally rambunctious little piece of paradise tucked in the corner of Braves Nation called Stuffville. Many fine denizens here. There are more vacant little places for new residents or returning denizens. Plenty of room here.

    Wish I could stay and run this further into the grou… uh, discuss Stuffville even further but must get back after it. I’ll be passing through again… as am able.


  451. 456 Pappy June 16, 2008 at 5:16 pm

    That’s a record for SG. Just 7 paragraphs to say “hello”. 😛


  452. 457 Voice of Raisins June 16, 2008 at 5:24 pm

    Ahhh… if only I could run a music store amidst the sleepy little Mayberry known as Stuffville…


  453. 458 Pappy June 16, 2008 at 5:29 pm

    Raisins; If you are going to make Mayberry out of Stuffville, I guess that makes me the famous rock thrower, Ernest T. Bass.


  454. 459 Pappy June 16, 2008 at 5:43 pm

    “If a duck stood still, you could catch him by the bill.” –Ernest T. Bass–


  455. 460 Carolina Lady June 16, 2008 at 5:45 pm

    That was great, SG! 😆

    Y’all have probably seen this but it’s still funny!

    Three little old ladies went to a baseball game and were enjoying it immensely. Especially since they had snuck in a bottle of Jack Daniels and had been mixing it liberally with their sodas.

    But then, they realized that the bottle was about empty.

    Based on the information given, what inning is it and how many players are on base?


  456. 462 Carolina Lady June 16, 2008 at 5:46 pm

    It’s the bottom of the fifth and the bags are loaded!

    (Well, I think it’s funny!) 😆


  457. 463 Carolina Lady June 16, 2008 at 5:50 pm

    from today’s email – note the spelling. 😆
    Dear Friend, Good day and how are you doing today, I am Mr Ken Jonathan a staff ofNat West Bank Plc and i have a bussines proposal for you worth 12.5Million Pounds. If you are interested, please get back to me via my private email address below:mrkenjonathan07@live.com
    Ken Jonathan (Mr.)


  458. 464 chrisklob June 16, 2008 at 6:08 pm

    Welcome back Lew! And happy belated birthday to you! I’ve got a small present for you. It’s an avatar that you may like. Certainly better and more fitting than the one that WordPress assigned you.

    Did it ever thaw out up there? 🙂


  459. 465 Gil in Mechanicsville June 16, 2008 at 6:52 pm

    I don’t know… I thought WordPress was spot on with Lew’s avatar… Somehow just seemed to fit… 🙂


  460. 466 Pappy June 16, 2008 at 7:46 pm

    “They say” that Randolph’s future is in doubt in New York. You mean some teams fire managers for lack of performance and failure to produce results? Interesting concept.


  461. 467 Pappy June 16, 2008 at 7:49 pm

    I’m going to bed. This place is boring. I hope it is this quiet in my bedroom.


  462. 468 Berigan 3, part 3, in 3-D June 16, 2008 at 7:56 pm

    Man Pappy….you must be old to wish for a very quiet bedroom!!! 😛


  463. 469 Berigan 3, part 3, in 3-D June 16, 2008 at 7:58 pm

    Didn’t you take a nap so you could at least see the sunset???? It’s fun to pick on folks when they are not here! 🙂


  464. 470 Berigan 3, part 3, in 3-D June 16, 2008 at 7:59 pm

    Now I am going to get some grub….I would like to see the Braves and see the Sox vs. the Phillies….will hopefully find some good play when I get back….


  465. 471 Berigan 3, part 3, in 3-D June 16, 2008 at 10:18 pm

    Did I miss the memo that no one is supposed to post during games???? 😕


  466. 472 Gil in Mechanicsville June 16, 2008 at 10:37 pm

    Looks like the Braves have found themselves again. Good pitching will do that.

    We currently are experiencing a frog strangler which is creating havoc with my TV reception… Gotta love DirecTV 🙂


  467. 473 Berigan 3, part 3, in 3-D June 16, 2008 at 10:54 pm

    Hard to believe this is the same team that was world beaters last September! They have had their fair share of injuries to position players…



  468. 474 Berigan 3, part 3, in 3-D June 16, 2008 at 10:59 pm

    Why is Bennett in?? Why was Ohman in the last inning???? Good God, I would just once like to watch a game were I wasn’t thinking Bobby was sniffing glue…

    Sounds like Joe is questioning this move as well after the hit….


  469. 475 flbravesgirl June 16, 2008 at 11:23 pm

    Good evening y’all. Good game. Would have been nice to get the shutout but a win’s a win.

    SG, I loved the tour of town. Let me guess, you run the Stuffville Convention & Visitors Center.


  470. 476 flbravesgirl June 16, 2008 at 11:25 pm

    And if I have my own building, I’ll warn y’all now that it’s liable to be painted purple.


  471. 477 chrisklob June 16, 2008 at 11:46 pm

    FBG, as president (self-proclaimed, of course) of the Stuffville Board of Architectural Review, any and all changes to existing buildings will have to be approved by our board (which consists of ME)!

    Of course, if certain baked goods were to be left at the KC Saloon on a regular basis, I’m sure that the board would rule favorably on painting said building purple or whatever other color you choose!


  472. 478 flbravesgirl June 16, 2008 at 11:52 pm

    I’m sure we could work something out. Besides, it will look good. Think cute French patisserie. Flowers out front & a few little wrought iron tables & chairs.


  473. 479 chrisklob June 17, 2008 at 12:00 am

    Little frilly curtains in the windows too?


  474. 480 chrisklob June 17, 2008 at 12:01 am

    Little frilly outfits on the waitressess too? 😈


  475. 481 Voice of Raisins June 17, 2008 at 12:05 am

    Think cute French patisserie.

    Are we allowed to do that without ending up in the doghouse? 😀


  476. 482 flbravesgirl June 17, 2008 at 12:07 am

    I don’t really do “frilly”, Chris, & I’d probably be the only staff.

    VOR, get your mind out of the gutter. Patisserie means pastry shop.


  477. 483 Voice of Raisins June 17, 2008 at 12:24 am

    The Raisin Cane Music Center has no specific decor. Maybe “contemporary warehouse”. But a music store just down from klobber’s saloon… well, you know what they say:

    Location, location, location.



  478. 484 flbravesgirl June 17, 2008 at 12:28 am

    I’m going to convince Chris to let me be VP of the Arch. Rev. Board. Then I will insist that every business has at least one pot of flowers or windowbox out front.


  479. 485 flbravesgirl June 17, 2008 at 12:32 am

    Real, living flowers. I’ll come water them if I have to.

    Main Street is tree-lined, of course. Brick sidewalks. Park benches.


  480. 486 chrisklob June 17, 2008 at 12:34 am

    FBG, that title will cost you even more baked goods! 😀

    Raisins, please make sure that the “contemporary warehouse” has good acoustics. The Board will be looking for that. Impromptu concerts, and what not!


  481. 487 flbravesgirl June 17, 2008 at 12:36 am

    That’s where the convincing comes in.


  482. 488 Voice of Raisins June 17, 2008 at 12:41 am

    The Music Center will be a traditional music store, with new and used gear. But it will also have a performance stage for local musicians. And impromptu concerts will be encouraged…


  483. 490 Voice of Raisins June 17, 2008 at 12:45 am

    Nite-nite time…

    Nite-nite. 😀


  484. 491 flbravesgirl June 17, 2008 at 12:48 am

    Somebody wake up SG! I need to know if we have a park or town square. And where’s the nearest garden center? If we have a park or square with a suitable stage area, then VOR & I could sponsor Sweet Sounds- music & dessert under the stars. Say once a month?


  485. 492 flbravesgirl June 17, 2008 at 1:02 am

    OK, time for me to lock the bakery doors & go upstairs. Good night y’all.


  486. 494 flbravesgirl June 17, 2008 at 10:04 am

    Good morning y’all.

    He can go back to Texas if he misses it that bad.


  487. 495 Carolina Lady June 17, 2008 at 10:10 am

    ‘Morning, FBG! He just hasn’t impressed me at all. He plays for the team, but he somehow doesn’t seem to be PART of the team. Might be wrong, but that’s my perception.

    Love the idea of your shop! 🙂


  488. 496 flbravesgirl June 17, 2008 at 10:20 am

    He’s just passing through.

    I love it too. Of course in my imagination I don’t need things like business plans & start-up capital.


  489. 497 lew614 June 17, 2008 at 10:26 am

    No trifled toes, after all. No infection and although the Dr. thought I’d broken it, the XRays disagree. I will, apparently live with this foot also attached.


  490. 498 flbravesgirl June 17, 2008 at 10:34 am

    Glad to hear it, Lew! I hope it starts feeling better soon.


  491. 499 Pappy June 17, 2008 at 10:41 am

    Niece; How about Pappy’s Patisseries. The name borrowing worked for KFC. And I can do your TV commercials in my Maitre Patisserie hat. What do you think?


  492. 500 Voice of Raisins June 17, 2008 at 10:42 am

    Morning, all!

    Glad to hear the good report, Lew.

    FBG: Where are the baked goods this morning? I’m hungry?


  493. 501 Voice of Raisins June 17, 2008 at 10:43 am

    I’m hungry?

    Why did I ask that as a question? It is an emphatic statement! 😀


  494. 502 Pappy June 17, 2008 at 10:45 am

    I’m confused?


  495. 503 flbravesgirl June 17, 2008 at 10:50 am

    Um, I’ll think about it, uncle.

    VOR, low blood sugar causing confusion perhaps?


  496. 504 Pappy June 17, 2008 at 10:56 am

    Rebuffed again! Well, you havent heard the las(s) of Ernest T. Bass. Just wait ’til you put in that big plate glass window. He He He He!


  497. 505 flbravesgirl June 17, 2008 at 11:05 am

    You’re confused alright, uncle.

    Blueberry muffins, VOR?


  498. 506 Voice of Raisins June 17, 2008 at 11:15 am

    Muffins? I like blueberry muffins. Got any scones?


  499. 507 Voice of Raisins June 17, 2008 at 11:16 am

    Perhaps more importantly, at least to me in the AM, what’s on the coffee menu?


  500. 508 flbravesgirl June 17, 2008 at 11:23 am

    You’re on your own there. I don’t drink coffee.


  501. 509 Voice of Raisins June 17, 2008 at 11:25 am

    Now, Randolph. (Journalistic transition)

    As much as I detest the Mutts and everything Mutt, I think Willie was the scapegoat for the NY press. Omar took the easy way out, when Omar himself is mostly to blame for this mess. He’s the one who assembled a roseter of old, overpaid, injury-plagued players who never gelled as a team. David Wright became the only consistent player on that fractured team. Even Jose Reyes wilted after sustaining some criticism from within. Say what you will about Bobby, but his clubhouse is never divided.


  502. 510 Voice of Raisins June 17, 2008 at 11:26 am

    Ummm… roster, not roseter.


  503. 511 Voice of Raisins June 17, 2008 at 11:27 am

    OK… gotta go meet a deadline for CL. Back later…


  504. 512 Carolina Lady June 17, 2008 at 11:36 am

    Lew, super news on the toe!

    FBG, yeah, nagging little things like $$$ (lack of!) always gets in the way! 😆

    Raisins, it is after 11:00. You haven’t had morning coffee yet??? 😯


  505. 513 flbravesgirl June 17, 2008 at 11:38 am

    I agree, VOR. Willie was getting too much credit when things were going well & is getting far too much of the blame now. And they fired Peterson too. I thought he was supposed to be a genius pitching coach.


  506. 514 flbravesgirl June 17, 2008 at 11:41 am

    Why do I have to pay $7.50 shipping on a $2.50 jar of sprinkles? Something’s wrong with that.


  507. 515 Pappy June 17, 2008 at 11:48 am

    CL; These young ‘uns give me grief about going to bed early and then it’s 11:00 and they are lookin’ for “morning” coffee. 🙄


  508. 516 flbravesgirl June 17, 2008 at 11:52 am

    Now we know why VOR’s confused. He’s still half-asleep.


  509. 517 flbravesgirl June 17, 2008 at 12:00 pm

    😡 😡 😡 I just looked at the listings for ExtraInnings tonight. They’re not showing the Braves. Must be a Peachtree broadcast, they don’t show any of those. Doesn’t Texas put their games on TV?


  510. 518 lew614 June 17, 2008 at 12:48 pm

    FBG-Maybe you should consider driving to the grocery and buying sprinkles. May not be the exact kind you want, but it’s not like anyone will refuse to eat the baked goods and can’t possibly cost $7.50 in gas.

    On the toe-The problem is I can’t feel anything. If I could, I would have known something was wrong before it turned red.

    I asked the Doctor and he said that honey is indeed used for healing wounds and they now have guaze bandages with the honey in the bandage.


  511. 519 lew614 June 17, 2008 at 12:49 pm

    FBG-Forgot about your driving issues. It’s not too late to learn, but couldn’t Dad pick them up on his way home?


  512. 520 flbravesgirl June 17, 2008 at 12:52 pm

    I need them for a big 4th of July order & couldn’t find them here. Usually the website I order from has discounts but not this time.


  513. 521 Salty June 17, 2008 at 12:52 pm

    I asked the Doctor and he said that honey is indeed used for healing wounds and they now have guaze bandages with the honey in the bandage. 😯

    I bet the ants could hardly wait for me to walk outside barefoot…or in sandles! 😆

    Welcome back, Mr. Lew!


  514. 522 Salty June 17, 2008 at 12:54 pm

    Sheesh, FBG, what do they discount? The shipping charge?

    By the way, from your earlier Stuffville question: you know SG would have town squares…I mean, that’s what Savannah is largely all about!


  515. 523 flbravesgirl June 17, 2008 at 1:00 pm

    I didn’t think about that, Salty, but you’re right. That’s what we want, a nice square for denizens & visitors to stroll through (hopefully eating a cookie).

    And, yes, they often have deals on the shipping. The cookie cutters, sprinkles & other supplies are really inexpensive.


  516. 524 Pappy June 17, 2008 at 1:07 pm

    Salty want a cookie?


  517. 525 Pappy June 17, 2008 at 1:12 pm

    FBG; I needed a part for my RC airplane. It was $8.95. To be sure I had it here in time to install it before the weekend, I had it sent 2-day air. That was $16.02. ‘Course it is coming via the Space Shuttle.


  518. 527 Berigan 3, part 3, in 3-D June 17, 2008 at 4:20 pm

    Lew, good news on the toe! Since the doc found nothing wrong, he didn’t charge you, right???? 🙄

    I see Willie was fired at 3:15 AM!! That’s class. I am sure he slept well after that! And Peterson must be some kind of genius to make Pelfrey look good.


  519. 529 Carolina Lady June 17, 2008 at 5:08 pm

    Why do I have an ominous feeling that this cow thing isn’t going to be a good thing?? 😐


  520. 530 Voice of Raisins June 17, 2008 at 5:10 pm

    I think it’s udderly ridiculous. 😀


  521. 531 Salty June 17, 2008 at 5:47 pm

    Hey…two fer one! Steak…and Shake! :mrgreen:


  522. 533 Carolina Lady June 17, 2008 at 5:50 pm

    I didn’t know the thing was going to be standing on its hind legs! Does anyone else see this thing toppling over in a high or gusty wind??

    I really dread the wise-cracks that are bound to be coming! 😀


  523. 534 Voice of Raisins June 17, 2008 at 5:51 pm

    You know, we could milk this joke all night…


  524. 535 Voice of Raisins June 17, 2008 at 5:52 pm

    But I’ll quit beefore it gets out of hoof, er, hand.


  525. 536 Voice of Raisins June 17, 2008 at 5:55 pm

    Actually, it’s time for my weekly trek to the gym (BSOML) and to rehearsal.

    So until tomorrow, I bid you all adieu!

    And a-moo.

    Later! 😀


  526. 537 Salty June 17, 2008 at 7:13 pm

    Well….. 🙄 …. wouldn’t want to be downwind of it!


  527. 538 Salty June 17, 2008 at 7:14 pm

    Lessee what I else we got. 😕
    Hmmm…we have a cow…and a Chipper…uh…nope…sure to be banned!


  528. 539 Gil in Mechanicsville June 17, 2008 at 9:36 pm

    Very moooving comment Salty…


  529. 540 flbravesgirl June 17, 2008 at 9:44 pm

    Sheesh. Get all the bad jokes out of your systems now, boys.

    So, dare I ask how the game’s going? Anybody up for PBP or should I just go to gameday?


  530. 541 flbravesgirl June 17, 2008 at 10:01 pm

    Ugh. 😦 I guess Hudson can’t keep up with the kids now?


  531. 542 Berigan 3, part 3, in 3-D June 17, 2008 at 10:32 pm

    Man, does Nolan Ryan looks old! I know he’s had some health issues….8O They were talking about how Tex was booed, and Chip mentioned how Tex turned down 8 years, 140 mil….and Joe said he didn’t know that!!!! Double 😯

    Had to log in for some reason to make this post, then McCann hits a 3 run homer, now 7-5!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


  532. 543 Berigan 3, part 3, in 3-D June 17, 2008 at 10:33 pm

    look old…I think I added does later….


  533. 544 chrisklob June 17, 2008 at 10:34 pm

    FBG, it was ugly tonight.


  534. 545 chrisklob June 17, 2008 at 10:39 pm

    Ber, Ryan IS 61 years old! I think people sometimes forget that since he pitched until he was in his mid 40’s.


  535. 546 Berigan 3, part 3, in 3-D June 17, 2008 at 10:43 pm

    Do youze guys realize the Braves are in the middle of a 16 game streak of playing every day???? Not off til a week from Thursday!! And Frenchy looks frazzled….will he see a day off??? Why not call up Josh Anderson for a day to play right, and send down one of the bullpen guys who never pitches for a day as well????


  536. 547 Berigan 3, part 3, in 3-D June 17, 2008 at 10:46 pm

    Chris, he just looks….old…don’t know how else to say it…61 ain’t old, in my book. My Dad’s 76 and except for being stooped over a bit when standing up, he looks younger than Ryan!!!!


  537. 548 flbravesgirl June 17, 2008 at 10:50 pm

    Well, if I was gonna miss a game sounds like this was a good one to miss.

    At least Mac doesn’t roll over & play dead. (Y’all don’t forget your AllStar voting. Gotta get Mac in there.)


  538. 549 Berigan 3, part 3, in 3-D June 17, 2008 at 10:56 pm

    FLB, couldn’t find the Rangers TV I take it???

    Kyle Davies beat the Cards tonight. 3-0 on the season, hasn’t given up more than 1 run in his first 4 starts! I have to say, I never really saw what all the fuss was about when we had him….

    Chris, did they mention on TV anything about Hudson possibly suffering after effects from the dehydration issues after the last game??? I heard the tail end of some talk of that on the radio…how he didn’t pitch between starts….I still don’t know how he got so darn dehydrated on a day in the 80s! Perhaps he didn’t think he would, and didn’t drink enough fluids between innings


  539. 550 flbravesgirl June 17, 2008 at 11:03 pm

    Nope, B. No coverage on ExtraInnings tonight.


  540. 551 Berigan 3, part 3, in 3-D June 17, 2008 at 11:10 pm

    Gonzalez to be activated tomorrow…and likely the closer!!! I guess Ridgeway will go back down, but that still leaves us with 3 lefties, which is just fine with me! I am sure Bobby is sleeping well knowing I approve! 😛


  541. 552 chrisklob June 17, 2008 at 11:18 pm

    Ber, good idea with Anderson. Frenchy definitely needs some time off. I am thoroughly convinced that he has an injury in his leg/knee/ankle/foot that is preventing him from running hard. He has not looked right all season to me. That could also be exacerbating his issues in the batters box too.

    However, I don’t think it is feasible to call Anderson up for a game. Someone would have to be sent down (or DL’d). In the case of someone being sent down, they could not be recalled for either 10 or 15 games (I forget which exactly) and of course in the case of the DL, it’s minimum 15 games.

    FBG, I saw that Mac is trailing Soto by something like 500k votes. It’s a shame because their numbers are very similar. Too bad Braves Nation isn’t as passionate as the Cubs.

    As for Huddy, I don’t recall hearing anything about it but I wasn’t listening closely. I tend to tune Chip Caray out a lot………

    Did he get dehydrated in Anaheim? I can’t recall. I know that the relative humidity levels are much lower than he is regularly accustomed to so it can be easy to become dehydrated there. SPeaking from personal experience, it can be tough to breath in low humidity if you’re not used to it and because the air seems so crisp you don’t realize that you need to drink more fluids. He certainly could have been suffering from the effects of that though, especially in Dallas where it was pretty hot and I think it was pretty humid too.


  542. 553 flbravesgirl June 17, 2008 at 11:19 pm

    I think the tricky part for Gonzo might be controlling his emotions. He’s kind of a hyper guy & he might need to settle down & not go crazy with adrenaline.


  543. 554 flbravesgirl June 17, 2008 at 11:22 pm

    It was after he pitched in Chicago, Chris. Which I thought was weird cause it wasn’t that hot.


  544. 555 chrisklob June 17, 2008 at 11:24 pm

    FBG, that’s interesting that it happened in Chicago. I have no explanation.


  545. 556 Berigan 3, part 3, in 3-D June 17, 2008 at 11:30 pm

    Chris, good point about the length of time someone can or cannot be recalled…I still am amazed that Devine was called up something like 8 times last year….

    I know someone on TV mentioned a few weeks back how Frenchy’s ankles have been bothering him, and he clearly is not the same fielder he was before…did you see he and Blanco last night??? He just didn’t seem to be able to cut his path…he could only run straight, and it allowed a ball to go to the wall, and they nearly ran into each other….

    I forgot, I thought it was at home that Huddy had the dehydration issue, which means it was the start he made on the 6th, not the one in Chicago…and if it was the one 2 starts ago, why did Pete even bring it up???? I am…..confuzzled!


  546. 557 Berigan 3, part 3, in 3-D June 17, 2008 at 11:32 pm

    Theres the answer! 🙄 My computer was acting up for some strange reason…couldn’t scroll up with the mouse the way I normally do, just using the “dial” on the cordless mouse…seemed like it was possessed…so even trying to read espn was an adventure…..


  547. 558 Berigan 3, part 3, in 3-D June 17, 2008 at 11:35 pm

    When Frenchy was given the “day” off during the double header…Was it Blanco who played for him, and Infante in Center???

    They just showed Josh Hamilton’s homer….I don’t know I have ever seen anyone hit the ball the way he does….I barely see the bat, doesn’t look like good contact, and it’s hit a mile!!!! Really looks like the ball has been hit off the end of the bat when he hits a homer to the opposite field……74-76 rbis??? Will he get to 100 before the all star break??? Will be break Hack Wilson’s all time record of 190????


  548. 559 Berigan 3, part 3, in 3-D June 17, 2008 at 11:40 pm

    FLB, you are right about Gonzo….I hope he comes in a game in the 7th first….and not some game in the 9th…bases loaded, no outs…like another lefty reliever.


  549. 560 flbravesgirl June 17, 2008 at 11:47 pm

    I don’t recall who played RF that game, B. But he could use another day off. It’s obvious watching him run that something is physically wrong.


  550. 561 flbravesgirl June 17, 2008 at 11:56 pm

    So Hampton’s going to make some minor league starts. Do we have a pool on what he’ll hurt next? Arm falls off? Strained eyelid? Alien pops out of stomach? ( I shouldn’t joke about it. I feel bad for him. But it’s gone beyond ridiculous.)


  551. 562 chrisklob June 18, 2008 at 12:04 am

    Ber, I saw that play last night. Stankoeur and Blanco looked like a couple of ten year olds chasing that ball down. Pretty pathetic. I don’t know what’s wrong with him but he needs time to heal. He’s NOT helping the team right now. Not offensively and not in the field. I can’t count how many times a ball has fallen right in front of him.

    Josh Hamilton played in Charleston back in 2000 and for a short time in 2001 on a rehab assignment. Aside from being one of the nicest guys you’ll ever meet, the dude is an absolute monster. He could rake from corner to corner. In fact, in the ’00 All Star game, he had two triples. One went in the left field corner, the other to the right field corner. We would find BP balls outside of the stadium that easily went 500 feet and the way the stadium is situated, it sits on a river and a stiff breeze almost always blows in towards the plate. Baseball America has rated it one of the five or six toughest parks for hitters in the minors.

    I am so happy that he has conquered his demons and realized the tremendous potential that he was blessed with. There was a stretch of about five years that he was the biggest joke in baseball.


  552. 563 flbravesgirl June 18, 2008 at 12:23 am

    Shutting the patisserie doors a few minutes early tonight. Good night y’all.


  553. 564 chrisklob June 18, 2008 at 12:29 am

    Good night!


  554. 565 morpheus45 June 18, 2008 at 12:43 am

    Well at least Josh Hamilton’s on my fantasy team. And yes, this has been a drive-by blogging. Later!


  555. 566 Gil in Mechanicsville June 18, 2008 at 3:28 am

    Hudson did well the first two innings and then “poof” the magic went away… he looked very ordinary.

    BMac continues to impress me with his hitting. Throwing, not so much… but I will take him 🙂

    yes, Frenchy looks bad… His batting average is approaching his AA level.


  556. 567 Gil in Mechanicsville June 18, 2008 at 5:15 am

    A comment about the Mutts… Just another example of no class organization…

    The midnight firing of Willie Randolph ranks up there with the night the Colts sneaked out of Baltimore in the middle of the night.

    Ever wonder why attorneys like to serve papers at 5 PM on a Friday?


  557. 568 Berigan 3, part 3, in 3-D June 18, 2008 at 5:20 am

    Gil, I agree with you on the season, Mac’s throwing hasn’t been great, but he was really on target against the California Angels. I bet they are telling folks there he’s the best catcher in baseball! And they may be right….

    Saw on the AJC that Stockman was sent down, with Gonzo being called up….4 lefties?????? 😯 Wasn’t Cox the guy saying we didn’t need more than one in spring training????


  558. 569 Berigan 3, part 3, in 3-D June 18, 2008 at 5:32 am

    Gil’s still up!!!!! 🙂

    Bet he won’t refresh and see I’m here though…. 😥

    Gil, I loved the way Buster Olney and Peter Gammons racked the Mets organization over the coals last night on baseball tonight!!!

    Gammons was flat out calling the Wilpons liars for claiming the Pitching coach Peterson had anything to do with Kazmir being traded, saying it was based on what 2 scouts said(Which he named) and someone screwed up the medical reports, and they thought Kazmir was the one with the Ulnar nerve problem when it was Victor Zambrano who had the problem!!!!


  559. 570 Gil in Mechanicsville June 18, 2008 at 7:06 am

    Yes Bear… Blame avoidance is a game played by the great and small. Of course if you own the team, you can always get a lackey to take the fall…

    Goes double in politics… 🙂

    Anyway, I expect a fire sale with the Mets, they will rebuild with new free agents at the end of the season or before…. I look for them to jettison just about everyone by Reyes and Wright.


  560. 571 Savannah Guy June 18, 2008 at 7:56 am

    Mr. Hyde showed up in Texas again last night. Dr Jekyll pitches better. Wonder if Roger knows why? It’s a mystery to be solved. Fran continues to look lost, dazed, off kilter, flummoxed, no zip, no zap, no bip or bap. Is Huddy dehydrated again? Maybe too many innings and too many stretches between sips of water from Braves hitters. Maybe Huddy needs to visit the water cooler, have a sip and then take a bat to it. Could that wake up the team?

    Fran should be causing a flap but he flipping keeps getting trotted out there every day, every night, every game, every inning. Is Trot Nixon available? Is Fran going for a new Iron Man record or is his name written in ink in the lineup card? Can Bobby see right field from the dugout?

    Time for an about face with Fran. Could Fran have a fear of getting hit in the face again? Could Bobby be saving face by not taking him out? Time to face facts and face up to the truth or we could face more wasted at bat’s and more mediocre play. Maybe Fran needs some face time with those on the bench. A dual purpose served… he could get many pointers there and rest the ankle. Is Rick Ankeil available?

    Does Fran still josh around on the golf course? Is Josh Anderson available? Is there a cot for Fran to rest on between innings? Is Kotsay available? Fran used to be Johnny on the spot with two outs or two strikes. Is Johnny Damon available? There is no justification for playing Fran every day. Is David Justice available?

    Can Bobby see right field from the dugout? Do Bobby and TP watch Fran’s AB’s? Does the team doctor have an opinion about anything yet or do rookie doctors just agree with the boss and get along, get along? Does Bobby get the games on Peachtree? So many questions and mysteries to solve and too little time to think about it now.


  561. 572 Berigan 3, part 3, in 3-D June 18, 2008 at 8:02 am

    That’s interesting Gil, talk of a fire sale….makes some sense. Pitching wise, they are in less trouble than hitting…well, let me say from a starting prospective at least. If they lose Odalis Perez to free agency, they will have more issues next year. Most likely Delgado is gone, they have to keep Beltran though, don’t they???

    There could be quite a battle for Tex between the two NY teams, except….I wonder if there is any chance the Yankees keep Giambi??? Sure, he’s old, but he’s hitting .268 now, with 17 homers, and 40 RBI’s. His OBP is .403.
    Meanwhile, Tex is hitting .269 10 homers 50 RBI’s and has a .359 OBP. And Giambi doesn’t have a .400 hitter in front of him either….Of course, with their money they could just make Giambi the DH, and have Tex play 1st.

    Just looking around yahoo.com’s stats….Tex hit .357 last year against lefties…this year he’s hitting .219!!!!


  562. 573 Savannah Guy June 18, 2008 at 8:16 am

    FBG, yes… many squares in Stuffville. Uh, park type squares, not the folks. Ernest T. Bass must be watched. He keeps a rocks in his bag. Stores should have unbreakable or shatterproof glass. I think that’s already an ordinance for Stuffville’s commercial buildings anyway. Maybe check with the WW&P law firm.

    Bear… yes, Tex turned down 8 years, 140 million. Joe was being diplomatic?

    Gil asks, “Ever wonder why attorneys like to serve papers at 5 PM on a Friday?” Because papers are cheaper than Horsdeuvers? Or maybe it could be to start happy hour on time? Papers are easier to serve than clients? Not sure… I give up. So many questions this morning.

    Must go off to work again. Back later.


  563. 574 Berigan 3, part 3, in 3-D June 18, 2008 at 8:27 am

    SG, you are on a roll! (pumpernickel??? )

    I know we are all armchair managers, easier to make choices from in front of a tv or computer screen….Bobby’s biggest strength (Next to never giving up) is being patient. He overdid it a few years back…remember that terrible start Frenchy got off to in 2006? Just looked it up, .216 in April. He still wouldn’t give him a day off…I think it was either then, or later in the year that when Bobby was asked if he should give Jeff a day off, he said…”I can’t imagine him not coming into the clubhouse bouncing off the walls with energy” or something like that…don’t quote me! 😉

    What the bleep does that have to do with anything??? You may have noticed I am not calling him stankcoeur, or Fran…( You guys can, and I am sure you all are glad to have my permission!) It isn’t his fault!!! The manager should know better! Frenchy said he’d never pull himself out of the lineup, and I am sure Bobby loves that….but, it isn’t good for the team right now….

    Here’s what I don’t get. Clearly it helped Jurrjens to sprain his ankle and miss a start. His blisters healed. McCann said as much that it was a good thing it happened when it did. So, Jurrjens kept going out and basically hurting the team(Really not his fault-the Manager should see blisters on a pitcher’s fingers and say rest ’em for a start) but that’s ok. Bobby said something about Jurrjens and someone else, always going to the post…he said it with admiration. Swell…I’d rather someone be TOLD they are not going to play, than beg to come out since they have a slight sunburn from playing golf all afternoon….but why hurt the team longterm forcing the “best” players to play all the time??? Why does Bobby act like he only has 3-4 guys in the bullpen and run them out there every game we have a lead, even if it’s 7-0 like the other night??? Frenchy is no better than Blanco right now…. but, we can’t risk it….this might be the night Frenchy breaks out! No…it isn’t!!! He may get lucky and run into a pitch or two one night, but he is sore, his brain is fuzzy from never getting a night off(remember the slumps Ripken used to suffer thru? A night off would have helped his team, IMHO, but the record had to be broken)

    If I was Bobby, if I felt I just couldn’t spare him this week, I’d give him the day off a week from today(The next off day is a week from Thursday) so he’d have 2 whole days off…what he used to do with McCann. Then see what happens…if that didn’t work, sit him 2-3 games….it’s not like we can’t afford to miss a guy hitting. 250 with no power….


  564. 575 Savannah Guy June 18, 2008 at 8:30 am

    Many foods at the Ted… Skip’s BBQ, hot dogs, peanuts, cotton candy. Any desserts? Free stuff when sitting under the cow? Cow milk shakes? Cow pies?

    Will cow pies be tossed onto the field by Fran’s cower’s?


  565. 576 Berigan 3, part 3, in 3-D June 18, 2008 at 8:33 am

    Bear… yes, Tex turned down 8 years, 140 million. Joe was being diplomatic?

    SG, so help me, he acted like it was the first he heard of it, and said how he just couldn’t imagine not accepting that….of course, you don’t read the sports section one morning, and you really can miss a lot….I can understand to a point why he didn’t sign with them…the Rangers just never go anywhere. Good hitting, no pitching, year, after year, after year…

    SG also said…

    Gil asks, “Ever wonder why attorneys like to serve papers at 5 PM on a Friday?” Because papers are cheaper than Horsdeuvers? Or maybe it could be to start happy hour on time? Papers are easier to serve than clients? Not sure… I give up. So many questions this morning.

    😆 You my son, have a very weird sense of humor, and we loves ya for it! 🙂


  566. 577 Savannah Guy June 18, 2008 at 8:34 am

    Putting my RC Cola and Moon Pie in the Beatle’s lunchbox and heading to work now. No time for more talk of mutts or hobbled horses or cows now.


  567. 578 Berigan 3, part 3, in 3-D June 18, 2008 at 8:51 am

    Don’t believe SG folks!!! He took one look at my 8:27 post, and thought, no way am I reading something that long! 😛

    With that, it’s up to you pappy, to keep this blog alive!!! I slept 2 hours, but appearently, that isn’t enough for this ol’ body…back to slumberland, where Frenchy hits .330 with an OBP of .400! And where Jessica Biel finds my talk of baseball, old cars, and Jazz endlessly fascinating! 🙂


  568. 579 Carolina Lady June 18, 2008 at 9:48 am

    Serious computer threat, posted on WorldStart.com:

    “New Ransomware on the Loose

    I’m sorry to be the one to break this to you, but I have some bad news on the security front today. Do you remember a few months ago when I wrote about ransomware? Ransomware is basically a virus that takes over your computer and demands you to pay the creator of the virus for a code that will bring your data back. Most of the time, viruses like that are more bark than bite. They’re usually fixed rather quickly by antivirus companies that figure out the codes needed to unlock your data. Well, at least that was the case up until now.

    Just last week, researchers at Kaspersky found a new ransomware virus that is on the loose and is very dangerous. The virus is called Gpcode.ak and it’s a type of ransomware that has no fix as of yet. Gpcode.ak will infect your computer and encrypt all of your personal files with a 1024 bit security key. Kaspersky has said that it would take a supercomputer to figure out the code for this one.

    People who are infected with Gpcode.ak will see a screen that says something like this: “Your files are encrypted with a RSA-1024 algorithm. To recover your files, you need to buy our decryptor. To buy our decrypting tool, contact us at ********@yahoo.com.”

    As I mentioned above, there is currently no fix for this virus, but if your computer becomes infected with it, you can help! Kaspersky is asking for anyone infected with the virus to contact them immediately. That way, they can use your experience to try and find a solution for this nasty virus.

    Now, if you become infected, Kaspersky is asking you to do the following:

    Contact the Kaspersky Lab using another computer connected to the Internet. Do not restart or power down the potentially infected machine.

    E-mail Kaspersky at stopgpcode@kaspersky.com with the following information included:

    Date and time of infection.
    Everything done on the computer in the five minutes before the machine was infected, including programs executed and Web sites visited.
    The Kaspersky Lab will then try to recover any encrypted data.

    Kaspersky analysts are continuing to analyze the virus code in search of a way to decrypt the files without having the private key. Until a solution is found, it’s recommended that your anti-malware programs are set to their maximum security and that extra care is taken while browsing the Internet and reading your e-mail.”


  569. 580 Carolina Lady June 18, 2008 at 9:51 am

    Managers Cooper and Gardenhire fined by MLB for slow games last weekend:


  570. 581 lew614 June 18, 2008 at 9:56 am

    I don’t want any virus. I have enough health issues as it is.


  571. 582 Carolina Lady June 18, 2008 at 10:01 am

    Ain’t it the truth, Lew!


  572. 583 Hillbilly June 18, 2008 at 11:00 am

    Lew and FBG,

    Y’all might need to move to Arkansas. I’ve gotten the Braves feed on MLB Extra Innings for every single game, home and away, including Peachtree Games (except Rangers games because I’m in their “region” I guess.) I don’t understand why y’all (or at least FBG) aren’t getting both feeds, too.


  573. 584 Carolina Lady June 18, 2008 at 11:30 am

    Almost 600 posts and it’s bogging down –



  574. 585 flbravesgirl June 18, 2008 at 11:32 am

    Good morning y’all. Hillbilly, for some reason I don’t get any of the Peachtree games. Usually they use the other team’s feed but once in a while they just don’t show the game. I can’t figure out why. I have Brighthouse cable, they own Peachtree! Seems like I never get a Braves’ broadcast anymore. And they don’t show both feeds for any of the games. One more reason to be anxious to move to Georgia.


  575. 586 lew614 June 18, 2008 at 1:06 pm

    Hillbilly-It’s really only once (infrequently twice) a week and always on Peachtree televised games. Last night I listened on XM. Tonight and tomorrow we get the Rangers’ feed. You figure it out, Dude, I’m tired of trying. No way am I moving to Arkansas, though I wouldn’t mind having you as a neighbor.


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