52: Who ARE these guys?? …..part 1

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by Carolina Lady

We see them on the field, we know their names, we talk about what they do or don’t do, but what do we really know about them? The coaches?

This guy for instance. Back in 2005, he ran in Miller Park’s sausage race as the bratwurst (didn’t win.) I never knew! ๐Ÿ˜†

In a ten-year career, he was a .253 hitter with 40 home runs and 172 RBI in 564 games. His post-season credits include: 1996 NLCS, 1996 World Series, 1996 NL Div Series, 1997 NLCS, 1997 NL Div Series, 1998 NL Div Series, 1998 NLCS, 1999 NL Div Series, 1999 NLCS, 1999 World Series, 2004 NL Div Series , and was the 1999 NL NLCS MVP.

He made his MLB debut in Sep 1995, the same year as Ray Durham, Johnny Damon, Edgardo Alfonzo, Derik Jeter, Jason Giambi, Billy Wagner and Mariano Rivera.

Eddie Perez

Eddie Perez

Eduardo Rafael Pรฉrez was born May 4, 1968 in Venezuela.

Here are some excerpts from a great article about Eddie, written by Jill Lieber of USAToday in 1999:

Braves backup catcher Eddie Perez has been reduced to a plodding, slump-shouldered, knock-kneed M*A*S*H* unit.

Name a body part, and the battered and bruised Perez has injured it in some way, shape or form. His shoulders, biceps, thighs and ribs have been tattooed with large, round, black and purple hematomas, the result of being the human backstop for hundreds of foul tips.

His jaw, now chronically arthritic, snaps, crackles and pops every time he speaks or chews, thanks to all those 90-mph fastballs that have ricocheted into his catcher’s mask.

His left index finger constantly swells and throbs, a 24-hour reminder of pitch after pitch having slammed into his mitt.

And a broken blood vessel in the middle finger on his left hand kept him out of Sunday’s World Series Game 2.

His knees are riddled with painful tendinitis, and let’s not forget those spike wounds, or that stunning concussion.

“Eddie’s like a magnet,” says Braves coach Pat Corrales, who

Making the tag

caught for four major league teams from 1967-75, including a stint as the backup to Cincinnati Reds’ Hall of Famer Johnny Bench. “I’ve never seen anybody take as many blows.”


Mental and physical toughness, the patience of a saint and the dutiful prayers of his beloved family have carried Perez to the top of the baseball world this season.

It was only two weeks ago that the 31-year-old from Cuidad Ojeda, Venezuela, vaulted himself into America’s consciousness in the National League Championship Series. He hit .500 against the Mets and was named the NLCS Most Valuable Player.


The second youngest of Salvador and Lila Perez’s six sons, Eddie grew up in the oil-rich region of eastern Venezuela. His father, recently retired, worked for 50 years in one of the local oil refineries.

When he was 7 years old, Eddie learned to play baseball from Salvador, a longtime catcher for several of the great local amateur club teams. The following year, inspired by his father’s passion for the position, Eddie, now 8, moved to catcher.

In September 1986, right before Perez was to graduate from high school, Pedro Gonzalez, a Braves scout and longtime coach in the Dominican Republic, plucked him out of a crowd of 62 players at a local tryout. Perez signed a $15,000 free-agent contract with the Braves and a $5,000 pact with the Venezuelan Winter League’s Aragua Tigres, which were managed by countryman Davey Concepcion.

I was rich,” Perez says.


For the next nine years, Perez languished in the minors, playing winter ball in Venezuela to make up for all the time he spent on the bench, right up through this past offseason.

Tragedy struck in 1993. While sliding into home plate against Class AA Huntsville (Ala.) on May 23, Perez dislocated his tailbone. He flew home to Venezuela to recuperate and did not return to the team until Aug. 27. “The first day I got back, one of the coaches told me to get dressed, that I was taking batting practice,” Perez says. “It was raining, and he thought it would be a good chance to practice sliding. I was panicked.

“He said, ‘Run and slide in front of me.’ I was so afraid to try that I kept running and running, but I couldn’t ever find the courage to slide. Finally, he ordered me to do it. When I did, and I had no pain, it was the best moment of my career.”

Well, until he fought back from the emotional devastation of having been dissuaded by coaches from going to Venezuela for the birth of daughter Maried .

Until he was named the MVP of the Venezuelan Winter League in ’94.

Until he was called up to the Braves on Aug. 30, 1995.

And until he was named NLCS MVP last week.

“That’s the biggest thing to ever happen to me,” Perez says.

The new two-story Duluth, Ga., home he and wife Marisol, his childhood sweetheart, share with their two children, Maried, now 5 1/2, and Andres Eduardo, 17 months, is filled with bouquets of flowers from friends and Braves fans.

Salavador and Lila, who have been visiting Atlanta since late September, are caught up in the whirlwind of the postseason. Marcos and Jolanda Nava, Marisol’s parents, came along, too.

This is the first time Salvador and Lila have been able to attend Eddie’s games together since their son signed with the Braves back in ’87.

“This is too much, too exciting,” says Salvador, with Eddie translating.

Says Lila, who also does not speak English: “It’s an incredible dream. I’m crying all the time.”

Adds Salvador, “I cry, too.”

And so does their son. His tears come from a much deeper place than the delight of having won the MVP trophy and playing for the Braves in the World Series. The tears mean Perez finally has made it in America.

“My family never let me quit,” Perez says. “That they’re here to share in one of the most important moments in my life means so much to me.”

from The Sporting News, 1999:

“I’m a nobody,” Eddie Perez says. “Just one of the guys on the roster, doing his job. Javy (Lopez) will be back next season, and I’ll be on the bench again.”

Yes, Lopez will return as the Braves’ No. 1 catcher in 2000, healed from the knee injury that sidelined him in July for the balance of the 1999 season. But no, Perez does not qualify as a nobody.

Perez, best known as Greg Maddux’s catcher and an able fill-in for Lopez since becoming a full-time member of the Braves in
1996, has added to his resume the past 2 1/2 weeks. Against the Mets in the NLCS, Perez went 10-for-20 and hit two home runs, the second a game-winning shot in Game 2. Perez, a native of Venezuela, hit .500 in the thrill-a-minute series, with the rest of the Atlanta offense batting a composite .194.


“I’m not a good hitter,” Perez was insisting as he rocked the Mets time and again. “I’m just hot, I guess.”

True, Perez hasn’t exactly been a hitting machine in his four full seasons in the majors–as his career average of .259 attests–but he has made significant contributions. In 1998, he batted .336 in 61 games, and his grand slam in the division series assured Atlanta a place in the NLCS. This season, he hit .266 after the All-Star break.

Manager Bobby Cox, understandably, is high on Perez.

“He’s not an out guy by any means,” Cox says. “He’s a great defensive catcher, a skilled catcher who can catch and throw and work the pitchers.”

Perez, 31, was thrilled to be named MVP–the vote was unanimous–in this year’s NLCS. “I think this is the biggest thing that has happened to me,” he says. “Winning the World Series in ’95 was nice, but I didn’t have a chance to play.”

Perez, a late-season call-up four years ago after spending nine seasons in the minor leagues, was in the lineup for Game 1 of the 1999 World Series but didn’t start Game 2.

“I’m a backup,” maintains Perez, whose humility and disarming smile make him a favorite with Braves fans. “But I have to be ready because we don’t have Javy (a close friend). My main thing is catching. I try to take at-bats as they come.

“… (Pitchers) don’t want to pitch to Chipper (Jones). They don’t want to pitch to Brian (Jordan). They want to pitch to Eddie.”

Not anymore.

Doug Glanville wrote a really funny article for the NY Times called Lovers, Not Fighters in which he wrote:

The major leagues also had its share of comedy. Take the fight I was in with the Atlanta Braves, when I was a member of the Philadelphia Phillies. Over the course of a week, my teammate Paul Byrd, a pitcher, had unintentionally hit Braves catcher Eddie Perez not once but twice in the back.

Perez and Byrd had once been teammates (and Bible study partners), but Perez had apparently left forgiveness at the door. When Byrd stepped up to the plate for his next at-bat, Perez hit him and then jumped him. Since I was on-deck and the closest player to the fray, I ran over to pry them apart.

The next thing I knew, I was at the bottom of a pile of players, my legs trapped, spikes barely missing my various body parts. The Bravesโ€™ Ozzie Guillen evidently decided that the best way to get out of the pile was to pull me out by the head. I had a stiff neck for three days.

What I found interesting was that instead of Perez and Byrd ripping each otherโ€™s hair out, they were locked together in a protective embrace, apologizing and praying to get out of this mass of humanity. Everyone within earshot was wondering why we all risked physical harm for a sรฉance.

To add injury to absurdity, when our bullpen coach came running in from left field to join the fight, he pulled a hamstring halfway to the pile.

Then there is the video where Tim Hudson scares the daylights out of Eddie at the team hotel:

Just my opinion, but I think he’s a pretty neat person and I’m glad I know a little more about who is really is. Hope you enjoy it, too!


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432 Responses to “52: Who ARE these guys?? …..part 1”

  1. 1 Savannah Guy July 19, 2008 at 11:02 am

    Great post CL!!! You came off the bench and knocked a home run with that.

    I like Perez… admittedly more as a coach than a player (even though I have no idea how good a coach he is). Seems like a good guy.


  2. 2 Gil in Mechanicsville July 19, 2008 at 11:17 am

    Another quality lead by our mistress of the blog… Thanks CL


  3. 4 Berigan 3, part 3, in 3-D July 19, 2008 at 2:20 pm

    Longest lead ever?? ๐Ÿ˜› Putting SG in his place, CL???? ๐Ÿ˜€

    Very good indeed! And he didn’t play everyday….that’s why Brian needs to rest more often….surely Eddie could hit the .090 or whatever Corky’s hitting! ๐Ÿ˜•


  4. 5 Berigan 3, part 3, in 3-D July 19, 2008 at 2:59 pm

    http://elismlbrumors.com/ isn’t as good as http://www.mlbtraderumors.com (And the guy makes more spelling errors than anyone I have seen with a blog) but this sure is interesting! Glad it fell thru!!!! ๐Ÿ˜ฏ

    Ken Rosenthal of Fox Sports is reporting that a proposed deal for Matt Holliday and Brian Fuentes to go to the Phillies for a package of players, including Of Shane Victorino, LH J.A. Happ, Double A RH Carlos Carrasco and Double A catcher Lou Marsen has been called off. Talks are not expected to resume.


  5. 6 Gil in Mechanicsville July 19, 2008 at 7:08 pm

    Game time, still blacked out of the Braves broadcast but a nice interview with Ryan Langerhans by Don Sutton on MASN


  6. 7 Gil in Mechanicsville July 19, 2008 at 7:14 pm

    Man, JJ looks good tonight…


  7. 8 Gil in Mechanicsville July 19, 2008 at 7:15 pm

    Nice play Lilly… ๐Ÿ™‚ Make me look like an expert.


  8. 9 Gil in Mechanicsville July 19, 2008 at 7:20 pm

    I would say the Braves have their B team on the field tonight but I think it might be more accurate to say they have the survivors playing…


  9. 10 morpheus45 July 19, 2008 at 8:24 pm

    Nothing wrong with Frenchy’s arm, anyway.


  10. 11 Gil in Mechanicsville July 19, 2008 at 8:28 pm

    Well, not if you were sitting in the third row…


  11. 12 Gil in Mechanicsville July 19, 2008 at 8:29 pm

    Braves keep starting rallies with two out, it really cuts down on the margine for error…


  12. 13 Berigan 3, part 3, in 3-D July 19, 2008 at 8:37 pm

    Don’t have a lot of time to get on the computer, what with our friend visiting(I don’t think he’s had a chance to be on a computer in 2 years!) and need to run some errands now….that was a great bunt by Blanco! And a very bad play we just lucked out on! CAN’T lose to this team….go braves!!!!!!!!!!!!


  13. 14 Gil in Mechanicsville July 19, 2008 at 8:40 pm

    McCann is a guy you like to see in these situations


  14. 15 Gil in Mechanicsville July 19, 2008 at 8:40 pm

    Oh well, good swing, bad results..


  15. 16 morpheus45 July 19, 2008 at 8:46 pm

    Yes, I deliberately didn’t mention what was wrong with the guidance system attached to the arm.


  16. 17 Gil in Mechanicsville July 19, 2008 at 8:54 pm

    Tough nite to be a Braves fan…. Why does it seem like trailing by two runs is so hard to overcome by this team?


  17. 18 Gil in Mechanicsville July 19, 2008 at 8:55 pm

    Wow, someone has really straightened out Langerhans’ swing…


  18. 19 Gil in Mechanicsville July 19, 2008 at 9:04 pm

    Okay, I think I will watch the Nationwide race… Later folks


  19. 20 Savannah Guy July 19, 2008 at 9:30 pm

    Boy, this Braves team really sucks. No life. Then again, Washington is a sleeper… a veritable powerhouse.

    Good thing Wren brought French back so quickly from Mississippi. He’s not playing better, worse in fact… but I suppose he’s more comfortable in Atlanta and all. You know, near home and Buffy’s home cookin’. So many “betrayals” with Jeffy. His arm has betrayed him, as has his bat, his legs and, oh… the Braves have betrayed him. Don’t his arms and legs and bat and team realize he’s an Atlanta star?

    Now Cox: At some point will Bobby move French back, say about fifteen or twenty steps in right field, so all of those catchable balls flying over his head might get caught. Can Bobby see right field from where he sits in the dugout?

    Another puzzle: If Kelly hits lefties and Prado is struggling with the bat and having trouble getting to and holding onto the ball at second, who does Bobby play? Managing is a complicated job.


  20. 21 morpheus45 July 19, 2008 at 9:41 pm

    Later, Gil.

    Now, SG; where is your loyalty? You’re not supposed to question your betters. How much time have YOU spent in the dugout? Ask DOB; he’ll tell you! ๐Ÿ™‚


  21. 22 Savannah Guy July 19, 2008 at 9:56 pm

    Yes Grinch… Bobby has spent lots of time there in that ol’ dugout. I think he likes it. They’ll have to pry him out. But then, why would ‘they’ want to do that?

    Nice double play by French. But did you notice? He looked good on that swing. By Jove… I think he’s coming around.

    I’ll amend my earlier suggestion about moving French back twenty steps in right. I’d move him quite a bit further than that. Way back… say Mississippi. Realizing of course that fans pay good money to see a local high school standout completely melt down under the bright lights and glare of the national stage. Whether our manager is unconscious or not, playing Jeff through this abysmal period could possibly ruin his entire career before it even gets started.


  22. 23 Savannah Guy July 19, 2008 at 9:59 pm

    Maybe when Yunel is back, start Lil’ Bee at second and Kelly in right.


  23. 24 Savannah Guy July 19, 2008 at 10:04 pm

    Blah… watching a third place team that deserves fourth place gets old quick.

    I’m hittin’ the showers.


  24. 25 Carolina Lady July 19, 2008 at 10:04 pm

    8-2. By the Nats. ๐Ÿ˜ก


  25. 26 Carolina Lady July 19, 2008 at 10:05 pm

    SG, Berigan, Gil – thanks for your kind comments! ๐Ÿ˜€


  26. 27 flbravesgirl July 19, 2008 at 10:25 pm

    Good evenin y’all. CL, great stuff there. I’ve always liked & respected Eddie.

    The game was not so great.


  27. 28 flbravesgirl July 19, 2008 at 10:33 pm

    You know, a dislocated tailbone sounds like a really really really bad thing.


  28. 29 Carolina Lady July 19, 2008 at 10:51 pm

    Hi, FBG! And thanks! That injury had to have been agonizing! There would be no way to move or sit that wouldn’t have been unbearable. Wow.


  29. 30 flbravesgirl July 19, 2008 at 10:57 pm

    Um, well, the guys have permission to whimper at the mention of this- Eddie also suffered a ruptured testicle. ๐Ÿ˜ฏ


  30. 31 Berigan 3, part 3, in 3-D July 19, 2008 at 10:59 pm

    Both injuries make me glad not to be a catcher! How in the wide, wide world of sports did Bob Boone and Carlton Fisk catch into their 40’s????


  31. 32 flbravesgirl July 19, 2008 at 11:00 pm

    A combination of good endurance & some luck probably.


  32. 33 Berigan 3, part 3, in 3-D July 19, 2008 at 11:01 pm

    Shoot, I see the Phils and Mets lost tonight! ๐Ÿ˜ฆ I think we need to get around 10 out, trade Tex and Ohman, and I bet you we would make a real run for the division!!! Or not….but we can’t stand pat, can we??? Silly question….of course we can…


  33. 34 Carolina Lady July 19, 2008 at 11:07 pm

    Short of some sort of miracle, I think the Braves will be lucky to stay out of the basement this year.


  34. 35 Berigan 3, part 3, in 3-D July 19, 2008 at 11:11 pm

    CL, you may be right! Though, the last couple of September’s we seem to make some sort of run….usually because a team (either Wildcard or like the Mets last year) hit a really rough patch….but, if the Phils can play .500 or better, they will likely win the division…haven’t checked the wildcard, but that’s going to come out of the central…..


  35. 36 Carolina Lady July 19, 2008 at 11:11 pm

    Calling it a day! Have a good night! ๐Ÿ™‚


  36. 37 Berigan 3, part 3, in 3-D July 19, 2008 at 11:17 pm

    Goodnight CL, hope it doesn’t get too stormy there!!!


  37. 38 flbravesgirl July 19, 2008 at 11:20 pm

    Good night, CL!


  38. 39 Carolina Lady July 20, 2008 at 9:49 am

    Good morning!



  39. 40 Savannah Guy July 20, 2008 at 1:13 pm

    Miscellaneous Political Observations:

    Just like George senior, Mr. Kinder-gentler, โ€œRead my lips, no new taxesโ€ comes the chip off the old block sonโ€ฆ Mr. Bailout. His โ€œcompassionate conservativeโ€ domestic promise is neither compassionate nor conservative.

    The Bush boys have a habit of telling you what theyโ€™re going to doโ€ฆ only in opposite terms. Itโ€™s so comforting, knowing that if I screw up and my business fails like Freddie Mac or Fannie Mae, Generous George will come to my rescue tooโ€ฆ and all of you will have the privilege of paying higher taxes to bail me out. Itโ€™s great not being accountable for our own mistakes, bad investments, stupid decisions, foolish risks or, uh, our greed.

    Makes me all warm and fuzzy just knowing McCain or Obama might rescue us with their vast knowledge of global and US economics. Oh, and contrary to their beliefs, that heat they feel in this Country is not due to global warmingโ€ฆ itโ€™s a bear breathing on the back of our neck before taking a bite. Yet it remains important for us to spend billions on a natural, cyclical event on earth, lest we be seen by Russia, China and the UN as cheapskates.

    Now Obama plans to lift himself to a higher status by giving a campaign speech at the Brandenburg Gate in Germany. I guess thatโ€™ll give him the gravitas he so sorely lacks. Well, I suppose heโ€™s earned the right to speak there. After all, what did Presidentโ€™s John Kennedy with his, โ€œIch bin ein Berlinerโ€ speech during the time we were on the brink of world warโ€ฆ or President Reaganโ€™s, โ€œtear down that wallโ€ line, ushering in an end to the Cold War and the Soviet Union itself.

    Yessirree, Mr. Obama is going to have a powerful speech there too. Maybe he can talk about Chicago politics or something. Heโ€™s certainly earned the right with his years of service and global relationships to go stand at that gate and say, uhโ€ฆ something important. Maybe something about โ€˜changeโ€™.

    Iโ€™m not through yet. Itโ€™s a good thing we have a Fed Chair like Ben โ€œweโ€™ll just throw money at the problem and if we run out weโ€™ll just print more moneyโ€ Bernanke. What an economic team we have working for us in the difficult times. Yesโ€ฆ we are in good hands in Washington.

    All I can say is, itโ€™s a good thing there are so many of โ€˜usโ€™ and so few of โ€˜themโ€™. Now WE just have to pay attention and do something about all of it.

    This post cost only fourteen carbon credits.


  40. 41 Savannah Guy July 20, 2008 at 1:15 pm

    Oh, and a very Happy Birthday greeting to Tennessee Paul… wherever you are. ๐Ÿ˜€


  41. 42 morpheus45 July 20, 2008 at 1:54 pm

    SG, point out to me if you would the last time in this naturally cyclic event that the entire North Pole completely melted? The polar bears I’ve got some video footage of fighting over 20 foot sqaure chunks of ice to float on and resorting to cannibalism because their food supply is gone would probably like to know too. Otherwise, I think you’re spot on. ๐Ÿ™‚


  42. 44 morpheus45 July 20, 2008 at 2:42 pm

    Sorry, CL; I promise my next political post will be conservative so we don’t have to change the subject. ๐Ÿ™‚ I AM honestly enjoying the current assertion that the 2nd amendment is indeed valid.

    Baseball: SG, tell me what you think about this. Terrence Moore just wrote a column about how keeping Tex is the only intelligent move. I myself have posted on there why it isn’t, and even though it was put up yesterday there are still 0 comments posted underneath. I wonder if there was such a “trade Tex” outcry that the AJC isn’t printing the comments. It wouldn’t surprise me in the least.


  43. 45 Carolina Lady July 20, 2008 at 3:13 pm

    That’s interesting about ajc, Grinch. Maybe Wren can’t get enough in a deal for him. I just don’t think this team is going to compete for anything except the basement this year.


  44. 46 Savannah Guy July 20, 2008 at 3:20 pm

    Just tuned in and thought I’d accidentally pushed ‘play’ on my DVR… of last night’ game. This is ugly. At least we’re consistent. I really hope we get rocked so bad today that the Braves are humiliated and the management is embarrassed. They can’t call two games with the Nats a fluke. We’re bad.

    Grinch, later today I’ll read the Moore thing and give my take. Knowing his usual slant and yours, I’m already naturally inclined to agree with you… but I’ll check it out. For starters, “keeping Tex is not the only intelligent move”. Keeping Tex may be what the Braves do out of a default position, but in my opinion Tex is the least of Braves troubles. The Tex situation is symptom, not the problem. Anyhoo, I’ll read his and yours and chime in later.

    Grinch, not sure where you got your bear video and when it was taken, but the Church of Global Warming likes to take those pics during the warmest part of the year when ice naturally breaks up and such. Polar bears have been putting up with this stuff for a long time. Add a few Hallmarkish, big-eyed Polar bear shots and voila… a cute Coke commercial gone very, very wrong.

    In our last ‘warming’ discussion I offered to send you reams of science/climatology based documents. To save time I’ll just put it in a nutshell here: There is global warming. It is a naturally occurring event. Here’s the catch: man didn’t cause it and man can’t fix it, no matter how good it feels to save the planet. Hell, if Hollywood believes it it must be true.

    Many of the same Gore ‘scientists’ were wringing their hands 25 years ago and ranting that we were entering a new ice age. The media swallowed it whole then, just as they are now with the opposite temperature prognostication. There is a reason that a few inner circle libs preach global warming and it doesn’t have anything to do with the weather. It’s about social change and redistribution of wealth, not rising seas and starving bears. By the way, when is the last time anyone saw a skinny Polar bear?

    As is the case most often (since the flat-earth and Salem witch trial folks had their way), we best ignore the chattering, self promoting demagogues and spend our money on protecting and preserving natural habitats, controlling air, water and land pollution and put our best energy and money to ‘saving the humans’… all over the earth.

    The earth will take care of itself if we do those things.

    Now I have to blow a ton of carbon credits driving to the airport in my Dodge Ram and putting my sis-in-law and niece on a big, gas guzzling plane back to Anaheim. I’ll have to turn off the AC and walk like Forest Gump for a while to earn those credits back. ๐Ÿ˜€


  45. 47 Savannah Guy July 20, 2008 at 3:24 pm

    Before I head out, one more thing: I’ve never ever heard more ‘talking point’ excuses and supportive chatter for any player in the MLB than I have for Jeff Francoeur. Seems all Braves announcers and all of the AJC reporters have decided that Jeff is in, he’s golden, he’s cute and he’s our star.

    And that’s the way i is.


  46. 48 Carolina Lady July 20, 2008 at 3:37 pm

    At this rate, I won’t have to post another lead until next month! ๐Ÿ˜†


  47. 49 Gil in Mechanicsville July 20, 2008 at 3:57 pm

    Greetings all, the redistribution of wealth thingee sounds good to me.. They can give me back some of the wealth I squandered in my youth plus the interest on a couple of those F-15s I paid for during my working years….

    The former Braves on the Nationals’ team is handing the Braves their head in their hat.

    Time to do some serious soul searching if you are Frank Wren about what to do about the current Braves’ roster.


  48. 50 Gil in Mechanicsville July 20, 2008 at 4:02 pm

    Okay, time to finish painting the house, the only thing left to do is rehang the shutters… Catch ya’ll later.


  49. 51 Carolina Lady July 20, 2008 at 4:48 pm

    Cox ejection #141. Sounds like the umpire was out of line. Didn’t see it.

    14-5 in the 9th? Go Nats. ๐Ÿ˜ฆ


  50. 52 Carolina Lady July 20, 2008 at 5:08 pm

    They did. 15-6. sigh…..


  51. 53 Berigan 3, part 3, in 3-D July 20, 2008 at 5:25 pm

    Woke up late, and we had no phone service, but…our answering machine works! Tech came out, said both phones were out! Didn’t want to believe it, but he proved there was a signal to both lines…

    Shot the ___ with him for an hour, went to see what’s what, and see we sucked again! ๐Ÿ˜ก And the Phillies lost again, so the “braintrust” still sees us only 6 1/2 games back….why that’s not so bad, we can beat the 3 teams ahead of us! ๐Ÿ™„


  52. 54 morpheus45 July 20, 2008 at 5:35 pm

    SG, it was a show on Animal Planet. This is hardly even news anymore, and it’s certainly not liberal propaganda (though there’s plenty of that too, to be sure). The entire North Pole will have melted this summer for the first time in recorded history. That isn’t some hippie crunching numbers, you can fly a plane over where it’s supposed to be and look for yourself. Does that mean Al Gore is right about everything and isn’t a smug, condescending butt-monkey? No, and no. But if you can’t look out your window and notice something’s wrong you need to get out more. I’m not sending or posting counter numbers anywhere to whatever numbers you’re using because a convincing argument can be made from manipulating numbers for just about anything if you’re clever enough, and as I keep trying to tell you all I’m a moderate Republican more than anything else. I just know I don’t hear bullfrogs anymore at night for the first time and it’s not natural for there to be tropical storms in Atlanta every three weeks and simultaneously have a record drought that they don’t even help. 10 years ago we NEVER had a smog warning here; it was a clean city. Now every other day old people and children are advised to stay indoors because of excess ground level ozone. The evening news weather teams aren’t making that up to support Obama. It’s natural for Kansas to have Tornadoes and Florida to have hurricanes, but not at the rate they’ve been happening. Not combined with the record flooding and record droughts, record snows and record heat waves, record lightning et cetera. Something isn’t right, and it doesn’t take a printout from a political website from either party to figure it out.

    CL, Lew called me and said the umpire made a really poor call at the plate, our pitcher turned and walked toward 2nd without making a gesture and the ump charged the mound. Bobby came running out and the ump tossed him without even looking in his direction. He said the announcers were visibly and thoroughly disgusted; wish I could remember the guy’s name. I can’t STAND umpires/referee’s who think people paid to see them and alter the outcome of a game to make some kind of point.


  53. 55 Carolina Lady July 20, 2008 at 5:41 pm

    Some of these umps are too big for their britches!

    Here’s what the article above said:
    While increasing his record ejections total to 141 at Turner Field on Sunday afternoon, Cox didn’t look like a 67-year-old man, one who knows that it would be in his best interest to get new knee replacements in the near future. In fact, by the time he finally left the dugout, it appeared Cox had yelled about all that he could say in the direction of home-plate umpire Chris Guccione.

    Cox burst out of the dugout when Guccione came around the plate and started waving his finger in the direction of Braves pitcher Buddy Carlyle, who had turned away from the plate after walking Willie Harris with the bases loaded in the third inning.

    Guccione then waved his fingers toward Cox, and when the manager continued onto the field, the veteran umpire issued the ejection, which prompted the heated argument.

    Cox began yelling at Guccione in front of the plate, and then continued to voice his displeasure as he and the umpire walked up the first-base line.

    After Cox returned to the dugout, Guccione then had some words with Braves catcher Corky Miller. Then, upon seeing that Cox still hadn’t left the dugout, Guccione once again signaled for Cox to head toward the clubhouse, which prompted a few more choice words from the manager.

    Guccione seemed to take displeasure in the fact that Carlyle had stared at the plate when his 2-1 pitch to Harris was called a ball.

    After Guccione ruled a 3-1 fastball to Harris to be a ball, Carlyle grabbed the left side of his jersey, raised it toward his mouth and yelled something that could have been directed at either himself or Guccione.”

    Ump reacted improperly, I think.


  54. 56 Berigan 3, part 3, in 3-D July 20, 2008 at 5:59 pm

    Grinch, I trust very few to know what will happen, politically, enviromentally, and old -lly….I can only read up and make my own judgements.

    Remember what Carl Sagan said would happen to the world after Saddam set fire to all those oil facilities while pulling out of Kuwait???? Billions and billions of years….Ok, I exaggerate ๐Ÿ˜› , but mr. smarty pants was sure there would be years and years of fires, and that there would be a near nuclear winter effect. Red Adair came in , and put the fires out in months(Gee, why couldn’t Sagan see that happening?) with very little effect to the atmosphere.

    Ok, what does that have to do with anything??? Good question! Just that experts are only experts because they say they are…..

    Get this, the arctic ice has INCREASED since last July!!!!


    Arctic sea ice extent on July 16 stood at 8.91 million square kilometers (3.44 square miles). While extent was below the 1979 to 2000 average of 9.91 square kilometers (3.83 million square miles), it was 1.05 million square kilometers (0.41 million square miles) above the value for July 16, 2007…

    Why hasn’t the media mentioned this????? Because it doesn’t fit the story they want to tell us, plain and simple.


  55. 57 Savannah Guy July 20, 2008 at 6:15 pm

    There is global warming. It is a naturally occurring event. Hereโ€™s the catch: man didnโ€™t cause it and man canโ€™t fix it, no matter how good it feels to save the planet.

    Grinch, I repeated that in case you missed that part of my earlier post. We agree that there IS global warming. Not much, but a bit, although the mean worldwide temperature hasn’t changed enough either way to account for anything substantive… even if those bastions of science and political neutrality like Animal Planet, The Weather Channel or CNN say its’ so. ๐Ÿ˜†

    The smog you see is not a result of global warming, per se… it’s mostly a result of too much crap being pumped into the air, combined with too little rainfall.

    Actually I have been outdoors quite a bit this past week… boating and such. Nothing nearly as productive as Gil. The weather seemed more like fall than summer, although today summer was back in full force with very little breeze. Neither of which have anything to do with global warming of course… just sayin’ I get out quite a bit and like Robert Zimmerman might say, “I don’t need a weatherman to know which way the wind blows”.

    Speaking of ‘blows’, I know a baseball team that is doing that quite often. More a sign of cooling than warming. ๐Ÿ˜€


  56. 58 Savannah Guy July 20, 2008 at 6:29 pm

    Grinch, I just checked out the Terrence Moore article. The usual dribble. With Moore, less is just less.

    Were you going by your real name or were you Capt. Obvious? I agreed with both.


  57. 59 Savannah Guy July 20, 2008 at 6:49 pm

    Which of these things will happen?

    Selig will act like a leader, man up and get the umps in line.

    The republic will secede from Washington.

    Obama and McCain will have a meeting, admit they won’t make good leaders and agree to restart the primary process with others.

    People will post more comments on Braves and Stuff so that it takes more than 3 minutes to catch up on a full day of posts.

    NASCAR will mix it up and go the opposite direction on the track. All right hand turns for a while.

    Muslims worldwide will publicly denounce radical Islamists.

    An innovative breakthrough will be made, enabling cars to run on water, which will reduce carbon emissions, screw the terrorists out of their war funding, help our economy and save us money.

    Cats and dogs will suddenly love each other.

    Terrence Moore will write a really good article.

    The Braves will play .700 ball the rest of the year and make the playoffs.


  58. 60 Carolina Lady July 20, 2008 at 6:52 pm

    1. Cubs…………Central .592
    2. Cardinals……Central .570
    3. Brewers……..Central .557
    4. Mets………….East .535
    5. Phillies……….East .535
    6. Marlins……….East .531
    7. D’backs………West .495
    8. Dodgers……..West .485
    9. Reds………….Central .480
    10. Braves……….East .469
    11. Astros………..Central .469
    11. Pirates……….Central .449
    13. Rockies………West .430
    14. Giants………..West .412
    15. Nationals…….East .384
    16. Padres……….West .374


  59. 61 Berigan 3, part 3, in 3-D July 20, 2008 at 6:52 pm

    I would say….Cats and dogs will suddenly love each other. ๐Ÿ˜›


  60. 62 Berigan 3, part 3, in 3-D July 20, 2008 at 7:02 pm

    Was just searching for DOB comments, and he’s been pretty harsh (For DOB) on Frenchy, and the team in general….Here are some comments by Tex…can you really blame him for saying them??? He hit 2 homers today, not much more he could do today….

    โ€œIt was pretty embarrassing. We didnโ€™t do anything it took to win a game. Itโ€™s tough to swallow when weโ€™re in a must-win situation, and we were completely flat. Offensively, defensively, pitching โ€ฆ we didnโ€™t do anything right.โ€

    โ€œAs bad as you can play a game, that was it. From all aspects of the game. We just got our butts kicked.โ€

    โ€œThe seasonโ€™s not over โ€” weโ€™re going to keep fighting. But we need to go on a major roll. We need to do more than win series.โ€


  61. 63 morpheus45 July 20, 2008 at 7:08 pm

    While I’m sure the earth is doing what it’s doing on purpose, I strongly disagree we aren’t helping it along somehow. And calling Animal Planet liberal because they have preserving animals on their agenda seems kind of silly to me. Are they supposed to say it’s ok to remove an animal’s habitat because corporations need love too? They’re animal experts, and they say what they say because it’s the truth. If anything, most if not all of their funding comes from major corporations and if they were predisposed to be biased it would likely be in the opposite direction. But whatever; we can agree to disagree.

    Berigan, agreed more or less about experts, which is why I just cited what I see and feel as opposed to what I read. Like religion, the environment is a lose/lose subject to discuss in polite company. People can’t remain rational.

    I never post as anything but Grinch over there; I got tired of Head Cooch insisting I was Stinky. And Bobby’s closed door meeting with the team before yesterday’s game to tell everyone the trade rumors were nonsense and we were still in this thing sure didn’t seem to have a very positive immediate effect, did it? We just gave up 15 runs to Willie Harris, Pete Orr, Ryan Langerhaans and Johnny Estrada. Yikes.


  62. 64 morpheus45 July 20, 2008 at 7:09 pm

    Nice to see Tex even pretending he cares; I wonder if he made sure a camera was on first.


  63. 65 Carolina Lady July 20, 2008 at 7:14 pm

    Grinch. Did you forget something??


  64. 66 morpheus45 July 20, 2008 at 7:15 pm

    I love you?


  65. 67 morpheus45 July 20, 2008 at 7:19 pm

    I took out the trash; that can’t be it. Can I buy a vowel?


  66. 69 Berigan 3, part 3, in 3-D July 20, 2008 at 7:21 pm

    Grinch, I do worry that with China and India joining the 20th century and going 4 wheel crazy…. a ton more pollution will be coming soon. So I am all for alternate energy sources coming online as soon as possible. But, right now, we need oil…and our government won’t let any new drilling take place offshore…we’re not talking close to shore, 50 to 200 miles offshore is off limits, any new drilling.


  67. 70 Carolina Lady July 20, 2008 at 7:28 pm

    Berigan, I read today in the news that Harry Reid, D-NV, is the one blocking the bill in Congress. He refuses to allow it. One man.


  68. 72 morpheus45 July 20, 2008 at 7:30 pm

    Berigan, I agree. I told you I’m not a liberal. Long as they don’t smash any more tankers directly into a wildlife preserve, I think it’s a good idea.

    Lot’s of tapping. Hmm. Was I supposed to do a lecture on Poe’s “The Raven?”

    Oh, I get it! I was supposed to sandwich a conservative post in there somewhere.

    Obama eats white children, Lou Dobbs is gay, French people smell bad and all my Mexicans are hereby fired.

    Better? ๐Ÿ™‚


  69. 74 Carolina Lady July 20, 2008 at 7:33 pm

    Just ๐Ÿ˜† when I read this headline: Cristobal Slams Carolinas ๐Ÿ˜† ๐Ÿ˜†

    Um, the top gust was 31 mph and we got 5″ of much-needed rain.

    Oh, I forgot. A small flowerpot tipped over. That must have been the ‘slam.’


  70. 75 morpheus45 July 20, 2008 at 7:40 pm

    Was I supposed to get something at Wal-Mart on the way home?

    Oh! Good lead, CL; and happy birthday Tennessee Paul!


  71. 76 Carolina Lady July 20, 2008 at 7:41 pm

    That was so heart-felt. ๐Ÿ˜ฆ


  72. 77 morpheus45 July 20, 2008 at 7:43 pm

    Actually, those really were things I had meant to say and forgot.


  73. 78 morpheus45 July 20, 2008 at 7:44 pm

    I’m absent minded but hopefully not the most evil person in the world deep down.


  74. 80 Carolina Lady July 20, 2008 at 7:49 pm

    (You do know that I’m just pulling your chain, don’t you??) ๐Ÿ˜†


  75. 81 Berigan 3, part 3, in 3-D July 20, 2008 at 7:54 pm

    Oh yes, happy birthday 10 Paul!


  76. 82 morpheus45 July 20, 2008 at 7:56 pm

    My dear, if I knew every time when a woman was pulling my chain or actually really mad I’d be a very different person now. ๐Ÿ™‚


  77. 83 Carolina Lady July 20, 2008 at 8:06 pm

    If I’m really mad, there is never any doubt. Thankfully, it rarely happens! ๐Ÿ˜†


  78. 84 Savannah Guy July 20, 2008 at 8:13 pm

    Grinch, Animal Planet does know about animals and I’m sure they care about them too… just like you, me and most folks. Thing is, when they and some others start talking less ‘Animal’ and more ‘Planet’ they tend to fall in line with the current misinformation campaign of (man-caused) global warming. They probably mean well but are unwittingly being used by a few executives on the top floor, who pass ‘content/position’ directives. That’s all. I’m not even saying they’re a ‘liberal’ group… just being useful to an agenda at times.

    I’m also not saying and have never said that we aren’t polluting the environment. For the most part we behave like pigs. We treat the earth like it’s a garbage dump. I work hard to advocate green initiatives and am very passionately invested/engaged in sustainability practices, preservation and protection of our environment.

    Now, baseball: If you posted as Grinch then I must’ve missed yours over on Terrence’s blog. Guess I’ll have to look again… or maybe they made it mysteriously disappear because it went against the party line.


  79. 85 Savannah Guy July 20, 2008 at 8:15 pm

    CL, there I was thinkin’ that you were letting the Grinch know that he’s up next on the lineup card. ๐Ÿ˜†


  80. 86 Savannah Guy July 20, 2008 at 8:19 pm

    OK, I just checked again. July 20 blog of Terrence Moore. No post from the Grinch. Either that or I’m losin’ it. Say it ain’t so.


  81. 87 Carolina Lady July 20, 2008 at 8:21 pm

    No, SG. I have the next 4 leads covered. Vacation time for everybody else.
    Interest in writing seemed to be waning, so I’ll give everybody a break. In fact, I have the next 3 ready to post! ๐Ÿ˜€ Unless I decide to edit some more.
    Berigan has me on word-count, so I’d better do some deleting! ๐Ÿ˜†


  82. 88 Savannah Guy July 20, 2008 at 8:21 pm

    Scarface in Atlanta?

    Now we have Illegal immigrant drug-dealing kidnappers in Gwinnett County. That ainโ€™t exactly AAA baseball.

    If they come to the coast and try that they can โ€˜say hello to my little friendโ€™.


  83. 89 Savannah Guy July 20, 2008 at 8:22 pm

    CL, I’ve been meaning to talk with you about your long posts. ๐Ÿ˜†


  84. 90 Carolina Lady July 20, 2008 at 8:23 pm

    Hello, Pot! I’m Kettle! ๐Ÿ˜† ๐Ÿ˜† ๐Ÿ˜†


  85. 91 morpheus45 July 20, 2008 at 8:34 pm

    Fair enough, SG. And I just checked; I’m not on there. It wouldn’t surprise me in the slightest if there’s been a little inside nudge to “ignore” my posts, even though it was deliberately calm. That paper has credibility issues as far as I’m concerned. They REALLY need some competitors to keep them honest.


  86. 92 Savannah Guy July 20, 2008 at 8:40 pm

    They (ajc) REALLY need some competitors to keep them honest.

    I’d really like to see that. I think another newspaper without such a blatant bias could be very successful. Even a good tabloid would be great. And no, not the kind they do in Lantana. Although a ‘page 2’ girl like London Star does would be just fine by me. ๐Ÿ˜€


  87. 93 Savannah Guy July 20, 2008 at 8:42 pm

    Grinch, if you saved your TM comment, post it here. CL won’t make it disappear.

    She never ever makes anything disap………………


  88. 94 Salty July 20, 2008 at 8:43 pm

    They (ajc) REALLY need some competitors to keep them honest.

    ๐Ÿ˜ฏ Honest? The media? ๐Ÿ™„ Never mind…you didn’t actually mean that kind of ‘honest’…I got it! ๐Ÿ˜†

    CL…nice lead…Eddie’s one of my favorites…and I actually saw him hit one of his homers, too!


  89. 95 Gil in Mechanicsville July 20, 2008 at 8:53 pm

    Greatest impact the earth has as far as cooling is volcanic activity…. So, to decrease global warming I propose we cause more volcanic eruptions…. ๐Ÿ™‚

    Now the truth…. pollution is a bad thing, anything that will help clean our air, stop polluting the ocean and poisoning the earth is a good thing.

    Not making sure we are playing on a level field with the rest of the world is a bad thing. When NAFTA was first proposed, I constantly harped that we as Americans could compete with anyone but we were not willing to work for 50 cents a day like Vietnam. Unfortunately, my voice was not loud enough to be heard over the din of CEOs who saw cheap labor and offshore relocations as the promised land for their bottom lines.

    So, the answer is it’s complicated but doable. A lot like the Braves right now…. And yes, I had to laugh when Corky airmailed that throw into right field. It somehow fit with everything else going on in the game.

    My question is this, do we give the Braves a pass because of all the injuries we have had this year or do we slam them for failing to live up to their potential?

    I have thought about it and tried to figure what is different this year as far as the line up is concerned and from what I can see, the biggest difference is not having Edgar Rentiriea batting second. Now, don’t get me wrong, I think Jair was worth the trade but Edgar seems to be the guy that made this line up go last year…


  90. 96 Carolina Lady July 20, 2008 at 8:54 pm

    Thanks, Salty!

    The media have become shameless propaganda outlets, IMO. I do not trust anything they say because, sure as shootin’, it is twisted from whatever is the truth of the matter.


  91. 97 Savannah Guy July 20, 2008 at 8:56 pm

    Hello, Pot! Iโ€™m Kettle!

    That’s got to be the meanest thing CL has ever said to me… and it was sweet. Oh, I’ve been handed the key to the doghouse before but you, my Lady of the Carolinas, are only a kettle if it’s a cute little decorative tea kettle that makes a pleasant sound when the tea is ready.

    Salty, I was about to head out for a while but saw you walk in, so… howdy and later gator. Is Raisins in Napa Valley?


  92. 98 Carolina Lady July 20, 2008 at 8:57 pm

    As others have also said, I think the presence of Pat Corrales is sorely missed by this team.


  93. 99 Carolina Lady July 20, 2008 at 8:59 pm

    Raisins is in Alaska.

    SG, Soul of Brevity, put the key back; you talked yourself right out of that one! ๐Ÿ˜†


  94. 100 Berigan 3, part 3, in 3-D July 20, 2008 at 9:08 pm

    I ordered a papa Johns pizza at 7:46, as of 9:05, no pizza! ๐Ÿ˜ก Email said 30-40 minutes. Called up, and they told me, they don’t have anything to do with the timeframe given online! Well, if that’s true, they should do something about that, eh what???? No offer of a free pizza, or a coupon even! They said they are running hour, to hour and a half….thing is, I love their pizzas(I only order a pizza once a month maybe) Guess I will call the 800 number, IF and when I get the pizza….

    9:07 still not here!!!!


  95. 101 Berigan 3, part 3, in 3-D July 20, 2008 at 9:13 pm

    9:12, still hungry!!!

    Did it get buried in my long post???? I think this is pretty amazing news that the cap not only didn’t melt away, but has gotten bigger! I sure heard several times on TV that is was going to melt away like an ice cube in a drink!


  96. 102 Savannah Guy July 20, 2008 at 9:14 pm

    I had to laugh when Corky airmailed that throw into right field. It somehow fit with everything else going on in the game.

    Maybe he was just learning from Jeffy… airmail and all.

    Now Gil shows up. Y’all musta’ sensed I was leavin’. I think the Braves need a good, healthy dose of criticism this year, otherwise, are we the Stepford fans? We owe it to our team to voice our pleasure with good play and our displeasure with bad play. Players need to hear from reasonable fans (that know the game), whom expect not so much to win, but to hustle, train, give their best and practice, practice, practice.

    That said, most of our criticism should be directed not at the players but toward those that manage the team and lead the club. Cox, Wren, all the coaches and everyone upstream to the Liberty folks need to hear our displeasure. I don’t want to hear that we’re spoiled for 14 straight pennants. I want to see a winning team OR a team that is improving, able to execute fundamentals and a team that is managed by someone that seems to embrace the 21st century… that’s all.

    Oh, and I don’t really agree that Edgar was the catalyst for the Braves last year. He’s great, he played great for us and I think he’s a great guy. I think the difference between last year’s production and this year is not one man on the field. If it’s just one man, it’s Cox. The debacle that is 2008 in Atlanta is a perfect storm. Not sure if it can be explained fully, but it ain’t bad luck and it ain’t pitching… so far anyway, on both counts.

    Now I gotta eat. I’m so hungry I could eat a Polar bear.


  97. 103 Savannah Guy July 20, 2008 at 9:19 pm

    SG, Soul of Brevity

    I think CL just called me an SOB. ๐Ÿ˜†

    Now, where’s that bear?


  98. 104 Carolina Lady July 20, 2008 at 9:23 pm

    SG!!! You know I didn’t!!! O He Who Writes On and On and On. ๐Ÿ˜† ๐Ÿ˜†

    Used to fly with the sweetest guy whose name was Bob. His nickname was Sweet Ol’ Bob. Or, SOB, for short.

    Introduced him to a colleague at NTSB once. Said he’s a real SOB. The guy looked startled, like he didn’t know what to do or say – then I smiled and Bob and I said in unison, “Sweet Ol’ Bob!” ๐Ÿ˜† Bob died a few years ago; I still miss him.


  99. 105 morpheus45 July 20, 2008 at 9:32 pm

    Gil, how right you are. There are fewer things in this world that make me more angry than outsourcing American jobs overseas. Disagree about Renteria though; he was indeed an important part of our lineup but he was getting older (look at how he’s doing in Detroit; ESPN had him as an honorable mention in “biggest freee agent bust” category a week or two ago). Escobar’s been pretty effective when he’s healthy and has more upside and a much stronger arm. I think it would be a wash at best until you throw in Jurrjens (how bad would we be right now without him?), then it’s no contest IMO.

    Berigan, the reason I didn’t acknowledge your post is because of your source. Same reason I don’t back up an opinion about global warming from Freespeechtv.org. Not worth mentioning from either end if it comes from paranoid, agenda-driven fringe groups, even if it’s a moving essay. Tell me again when it comes from Brian Williams. And I think Poppa John’s must be Left Wing. ๐Ÿ™‚

    Time to grill.


  100. 106 morpheus45 July 20, 2008 at 9:35 pm

    Used to fly

    With the sweetest guy

    His name was Bob.

    CL wins today’s poetry award!


  101. 107 flbravesgirl July 20, 2008 at 9:53 pm

    Good evening y’all. Happy birthday, Tenn Paul!


  102. 108 Berigan 3, part 3, in 3-D July 20, 2008 at 9:55 pm

    Grinch, just check the links on the site, they take you to the info….here, from the horse’s mouth…


  103. 109 morpheus45 July 20, 2008 at 10:32 pm

    Berigan, did you read what you just linked to? It’s a legitimate website that essentially states:

    There is less or no ice in most places where there has always been ice, and there is more ice in some places it shouldn’t be but it’s strange, thin ice that melts easily. The tone of the link implies they don’t think it’s normal at all.

    That completely backs up my argument that everything’s off-kilter, and even further backs up a hypothesis I’ve had about radical conservatives that’s kept me moderate from the get-go. That article you started with was so sure that you wouldn’t actually think about what you read that it screamed “Look, there’s MORE ice than usual and the liberals are wrong again!” and even had the stones to link to a legitimate site knowing their fan base would be too excitable to realize the article was defeating itself with its own logic. And they were right. Go back and read that link again, dude; I’ll give you a mulligan. And for god’s sake use this as a learning experience to get your news from some different sources. I shouldn’t have to take over your argument for you to give you better ammunition; I could’ve linked to a dozen more logical anti-global warming essays with more appropriate supporting research. Click “unsubscribe” before it’s too late! ๐Ÿ™‚


  104. 110 flbravesgirl July 20, 2008 at 10:45 pm

    Are we ready for a new topic yet? Please? What gourmet delicacy did you grill, green one?


  105. 111 morpheus45 July 20, 2008 at 10:53 pm

    That post was meant in a friendly way (it really was) though it may appear different; I hope it’s taken so.

    FBG, it’s a new recipe that comes from the quaint German town of Hamburg. I could tell you more about it, but then I’d have to kill you. ๐Ÿ™‚


  106. 112 Berigan 3, part 3, in 3-D July 20, 2008 at 10:55 pm

    Dude, the ice is supposed to melt away…it hasn’t….plain and simple….I know, more summer to come, but the image shows it’s still there, as much as last year….Antarctica’s ice is growing….but of course that could be a sign of global warming. EVERYTHING is a sign of global warming. heavy rain??? Global warming. More snow than usual??? Global warming. A colder than usual winter??? GLOBAL WARMING.

    The Al Gore’s of the world will never admit the possibility of being the least bit wrong. The argument is over. SG could no doubt dig up that list of 1000’s of scientists that don’t believe it is purely man made. They don’t get face time…it doesn’t fit the agenda….


  107. 113 flbravesgirl July 20, 2008 at 10:56 pm

    No you wouldn’t. You’d keep me around for the cakes.


  108. 114 morpheus45 July 20, 2008 at 10:56 pm

    Pardon me; not Hamburg but Cheeseburg (a little closer to the Black Forest and a higher per capita weight). I hope the excessive amount of charcoal didn’t melt too much ice.


  109. 115 flbravesgirl July 20, 2008 at 10:58 pm

    I’ll check back later & see if the ranting is over.


  110. 116 morpheus45 July 20, 2008 at 11:03 pm

    What agenda would that be? Who gets paid for pointing out that we’re polluting the planet, as opposed to ALL KINDS of people getting paid to pretend we aren’t? And what would my agenda be; I have a nice house and yard regardless and no kids to worry about the future for. It’s not like I work for Greenpeace. SG will tell us all if he thinks I’m wrong, and I’ll adress that then. It’s cool dude; let it slide. We don’t agree. Worse things have happened.


  111. 117 Carolina Lady July 20, 2008 at 11:12 pm

    BASEBALL??? ๐Ÿ™‚

    Agree to disagree. No minds will be changed on a silly little blog. ๐Ÿ˜€
    Many of us are passionate on some issues, though not all of agree on the solutions – or even what the problem IS, in some cases.

    Off to bed. Busy day tomorrow! Good night, TnPAUL – wherever you may be! ๐Ÿ˜† And Happy Birthday!


  112. 118 Berigan 3, part 3, in 3-D July 20, 2008 at 11:26 pm

    No problem Grinch! I’m not talking about you, I am talking about folks like Al Gore(Who is making money off of this in many ways) Dr. Heidi Cullen of the Weather channel(She hosts that weekly show on the enviroment)made a statement that all meteorologists that don’t buy in to global warming should not receive AMS certification….those folks, not you!


  113. 119 morpheus45 July 20, 2008 at 11:37 pm

    No doubt Gore is, my man; and his ozone torching mansion in Tennessee doesn’t help his position any. I think he’s probably right about some of it, but there’s definitely an odor of sour grapes involved. And penalizing scientists for having differing opinions is retarded; if they all concurred about anything the world would split in two from the shock. I do believe as I said earlier that the earth is moving on its own; I just wish people would act more responsible with their stewardship of such a beautiful place.


  114. 120 Savannah Guy July 20, 2008 at 11:59 pm

    FBG, the Grinch is not giving you his recipe for Hamburg-ers, but I will. It is the addition of cheese… the secret ingredient. Now, if hickory chips are added… mmmm good. Lot’sa pepper, some salt and a touch of special sauce and it’s a masterpiece. Mr. Fly would agree I’m certain.

    The little parallel dark brown stripes assure the best taste, although my George Forman grill does a pretty good job in a lazy pinch.

    Berigan, if all was said and parsed and understood about global warming… from a fundamental pov, I really think you, Grinch and I would all violently agree. Differ on a few details and maybe even perspective, but agree we would.

    I hate to stifle a potentially good argument on the environment but I think that both you and the Grinch make great points and hit all all around the bulls eye. Which is as close as any of us can get… with the occasional red dot being hit right smack dab in the middle with an impression or instinct, even if not supported by a fact at our fingertips. It’s not only stuff… it’s good stuff.

    CL and FBG, never fear, it’s OK… we are all supposed to try and change minds by posting our ideas, pointing out our differences of opinion, citing our sources when necessary and sharing our perspectives… even if they are vastly different. We only fight when we run out of ideas.


  115. 121 morpheus45 July 21, 2008 at 1:42 am

    Yeah, that’s right; it’s time for an avatar change. I’m in an O.G. (original gangsta) mood. Y’all remember NWA? Gangsta Rap before it was watered down and sampled out of relevance. The group had Dr. Dre, Ice Cube when he was 19 and weighed about 170 pounds, Easy-E (the dude in my avatar) who died of AIDS at the unfortunate age of 31, and spawned Tupac, Snoop Dogg and a host of others. Groundbreaking stuff, and this video is now 20 YEARS OLD.



  116. 122 morpheus45 July 21, 2008 at 1:42 am

    Of course, for some reason my avatar hasn’t changed yet.


  117. 123 Gil in Mechanicsville July 21, 2008 at 1:59 am

    I didn’t say I think the Braves should not have made the trade, they got quality for quality, it is just what has made the difference. (A lot fewer runs being scored). Edgar had a career year last year, plus he was clutch… Now, what to do?

    Yes, it starts at the top… Did anyone else notice Langerhans has shortened his stroke and looks like he did before the toe tap? Also hitting like he did two years ago… Come to think of it, Willie Harris looked like an All-Star too… So, why is an organization like the Nationals able to get more out of the players than the Braves? Hitting coach? Manager? Other?

    Personal opinion not based on research to follow…. I don’t think there is a real global warming trend, just an effort by environmentalist to reduce pollution of all types and they are simply using the global warming argument because it is a very effective scare tactic. Much more so than just stating that smog is bad for you…..

    I don’t think coal fire plants using modern technology is really all that bad, old smoke belching plants are…. To want to eliminate coal is crazy.. Developing clean air technology to utilize a resource of which we have a 700 year supply is smart.

    The same people who protested against nuclear power are the same ones wanting us to burn corn…. DUH…

    One final shot… Americans don’t leave a carbon footprint, they leave an assprint….


  118. 124 Voice of Raisins July 21, 2008 at 7:49 am

    Hello, Stuffville.

    I am home from a week in Anchorage, Alaska, having had zero access (or desire for said access, quite honestly, but I’ll expound on that later) to any news whatsoever regarding our beloved Braves, so naturally I come to this Burg in search of the skinny, the poop, the word on the street. What I have learned is that the earth is in climate change, that political and research entities are agenda driven, and that Terrence Moore is and idiot. Hmmm… Granted, I am suffering from a combination of jetlag and sleep deprivation, but I’m not finding any Breaking News there.

    ( By the way, for what it’s worth: The temperature in Anchorage reached 60 only twice the entire 8 days I was there. It rained every day. There is still snow on the mountains. I returned home with a cold. The locals are complaining that they will have no summer this year, since the local tree and plant blooming patterns indicate that the snow season will arrive early this year, most likely in about 6 weeks. Global warming has apparently forgotten about Alaska. Now, if you say I shouldn’t make such an assertion based on 8 days experience, I will say that “scientists” should not make absolute assertions based on less than 200 years of recorded data, while the earth has been spinning for billions of years. I’m just sayin’… )


  119. 125 Salty July 21, 2008 at 8:10 am

    Global Warming is a money maker…nothing more. The Michael Moore’s of the world make money on their films…jetting from site to site (???), leaving ‘their’ carbon footprint in their wake, the media follow along chopping down trees to sell more papers, and Mr. Gore, who’s never done a value-added thing in his life becomes an expert on the heels of inventing the internet. Oh…and here we sit burning the television for hours on end watching the weather channel, which also advises us we’re all ‘and idiots’ for not believing there’s global warming.

    Grinch: you put it best. Believe what your eyes tell you, and investigate and/or get involved (if so inclined) in the solution. Personally, I don’t need the scare tactics of global warming to believe in pollution. I can see it…and the chopping of trees to pave more asphalt/concrete/build more shopping centers (that we can’t afford to drive to…or simply don’t endure the traffic to get to!), to get disgusted by it all. Why are the tax incentives for building, but not for rehabilitation? ๐Ÿ˜•

    Face it, the media/politicos/advocates (can you say lobbyists?) insist on constructing a platform so massive, so incredibly overwhelming that we common folk feel only the government can possibly solve, thereby justifying their existence, and/or for the ‘feel-good’ types, give a cause individuals can harp on (hardly helps solve…but does ‘feel good’), and creates a topic that can be spun/regurgitated/slanted to give the ‘experts’ a mouthpiece for years to come and sell TV time/newspapers/magazines…which, naturally, should fly in the face of the very issue they’re reporting, but…hey, it makes $$$. Thus, full circle.

    What causes global warming? $$$$$ Take that away, and no one will give one whit about it.

    Monday mornings are a good time for a rant! ๐Ÿ˜† In a bit, once my second cup of ‘java crude’ kicks in, I’ll look over this drivel I just posted and think, ‘Oh my…what is this?’ Like I said…could be drivel! ๐Ÿ˜† Definitely passion!


  120. 126 Voice of Raisins July 21, 2008 at 8:10 am

    Thanks, CL, for the great lead on Eddie. He is and has been one of my favorites. I remember the fight between him and Byrd. I was listening on radio when it happened. It was so odd that it’s one of those memories that I can recall great detail.


  121. 127 Salty July 21, 2008 at 8:10 am

    VOR…wecome back! Good to know some renegade mosquito didn’t corral you and carry you to parts unknown!


  122. 128 Voice of Raisins July 21, 2008 at 8:15 am

    Thanks, Salty. Those were the largest mosquitos I have ever seen in my life. If you went out on any trail without bugspray, they would just swarm you. They weren’t quite so bad in the urban areas.


  123. 129 Salty July 21, 2008 at 8:22 am

    I lived a year in Wisconsin, which has large mosquitoes and flies as well. Playing softball, you’d almost swear you could hear the splat as the ball smacked into them as it sailed through the air. Hard to get a grip, too! ๐Ÿ˜†

    It’s frankly amazing to watch nature deal with a short growing season…it doesn’t waste time!


  124. 130 Voice of Raisins July 21, 2008 at 8:29 am

    Apparently, the mosquitos in Alaska have quite a reputation. During the weeks leading up to going, we were given a suggested packing list for the trip. In the last meeting my team had before we departed, our leader told us if we forgot everything else, don’t forget our Bible and bugspray. Now that I’m back, I think those 2 items were definitely in their correct place on the priority list.


  125. 131 Voice of Raisins July 21, 2008 at 8:34 am

    So, shifting gears rapidly, what’s been up with Escobar? Anybody else going on or returning from the DL? Any new trade rumors? Any Paladin sightings?


  126. 132 Gil in Mechanicsville July 21, 2008 at 8:59 am

    I don’t know what is worse, those big mosquitoes which are akin to B-52s and seem capable of draining the body with a single bite or the pesky stealth variety we have around here which specialize in hit and run tactics….

    Anyway, welcome back Raisins, glad you are no worse for wear and had a safe trip.


  127. 133 Voice of Raisins July 21, 2008 at 9:01 am

    Here’s a brief, Reader’s Digest version recap of my week in Anchorage. My team partnered with a local ministry called GraceWorks, which places groups in areas of need in Anchorage which we might call “the ‘hood”. We worked in the Mountain View district, which is known for its high crime rate, its drug activity, and its neglected children. We spent our time in a dual capacity, doing much needed repair work in a church, but more importantly, spending our days at the Boys and Girls Club in the middle of the district, where all of the street kids gather to play and hang out. These kids are completely on their own from early morning to late at night. They rely on the B&GC for things like food and shelter from the rain. After 6:00, when the B&GC closes, these kids just roam the streets, where drugs, gunfire, and fights are the norm. And when I say kids, I’m talking anywhere from 5 years old and up. It is absolutely heartbreaking. When you watch 2 kids get in a fight because one of them got food from somewhere, well, let’s just say that I have very little sympathy for Jeff Francoeur’s current “struggles”…


  128. 134 Voice of Raisins July 21, 2008 at 9:06 am

    Thanks, Gil. It’s good to be back. Oddly, though, it’s kinda weird returning to my normal routine after having experienced what we did. I’m not even sure what normal is. ๐Ÿ˜

    And, yes, you make a good point about the mosquitos. We fought off the hosses (no, not that contrived nickname kind of Hoss) all week, and my wife got tagged 3 times yesterday by the home skeeters. Go figure…


  129. 135 Carolina Lady July 21, 2008 at 9:37 am

    ‘Morning, all!

    Raisins, welcome back!!! Air Alaska once boarded 23 passengers on a flight before they realized it was a just a mosquito on the tarmac. (You have added some stars to that crown, my brother!)

    There really is a little baseball news above – inbetween the geo-political stuff. The Braves twice had their head handed to them by the next-to-the-bottom team of the NL. Francoeur is doing a poor Bluto imitation. Bobby needs knee replacements for his replacement knees. Some of the NL Umpires need their fannies kicked. The NL champs this year will most likely come from the Central Division. Grinch narrowly avoided a trip to the doghouse for gross negligence. And you were sorely missed.


  130. 136 Voice of Raisins July 21, 2008 at 9:57 am

    Thanks, CL. I hope I didn’t sound like I was complaining with regard to the quest for news… Perhaps I’m a little cranky from lack of sleep. Anyhoo (can say, SG?) I am happy to be home.


  131. 137 Carolina Lady July 21, 2008 at 10:05 am

    That was a memorable experience, Raisins. One I’m sure you’ll never forget! No, I didn’t think you were complaining. ๐Ÿ™‚


  132. 138 flbravesgirl July 21, 2008 at 10:22 am

    Good morning y’all. Welcome home, VOR!


  133. 139 Savannah Guy July 21, 2008 at 10:35 am

    Salty, good post about, well, you know. That warming thing. Agreed on all.

    Welcome back Raisins. You’re a good man who puts his money where his mouth is when it comes to helping others. Good work and bless you, bro.

    Now, as you pointed out, the blog has had a greater share of ‘stuff’ than baseball, I’ll add a bit of baseball news here just for you:

    When you left for Alaska, the Braves sucked. The Braves still, uh… suck.

    Now, back to other important stuff (breaking news): For breakfast I had fresh picked figs on toast with cinnamon sprinkled and honey drizzled on top. Just to shorten the geopolitical stuff, I’ll just say: Obama, McCain, Liberals, Conservatives, Oil prices, Energy crisis, illegal immigrants, global warming, ice age, economy, terrorism, war, peace, dogs, cats, Hallmark cards, good music, good movies, good food. I’ll leave it there lest I be a ‘pot’. :mrgreen:


  134. 140 morpheus45 July 21, 2008 at 11:06 am

    You forgot the partridge in a pear tree. Pot? You hippie! And I dare you to say “fresh picked figs” five times fast.

    Howdy, Raisins; what was the bible for? Swatting mosquitos? Smiting them with the wrath of the Lord?

    Thank you, Salty, for lending voice to what we all know always in our hearts: I put it best. ๐Ÿ™‚



  135. 141 Salty July 21, 2008 at 11:51 am

    Thank you, Salty, for lending voice to what we all know always in our hearts: I put it best.

    Uh…yeah…that was the crux of my post! ๐Ÿ™„
    By the way…your modesty…how do you come by it? ๐Ÿ˜†


  136. 142 flbravesgirl July 21, 2008 at 11:53 am

    From his shy, retiring nature, Salty.


  137. 143 Salty July 21, 2008 at 11:57 am

    Shy, retiring nature, huh? (Sigh…) I guess this is one of those times when the obvious simply escapes me! ๐Ÿ™‚


  138. 144 Voice of Raisins July 21, 2008 at 12:28 pm

    Actually, Greenie, my Bible wouldn’t work very well for swatting mosquitos. It’s softbound and too flimsy. I did smite a few with the wrath of my hand, though. I tried hitting one with a maple bat, but the bat shattered and proved to be more hazardous than the mosquitos. ๐Ÿ˜€


  139. 145 Gil in Mechanicsville July 21, 2008 at 3:17 pm

    Well, it looks like the sun and the moon and the stars are finally beginning to align themselves as far as my mom goes. Josie and I stopped in fr a visit today and finally…. NO COMPLAINTS!!!! well, she did complain about the fact that they did not sweeten her tea but in the broad scheme of things and considering where we have come from, that constitutes no complaints.

    Of course, when my wife walks in the place, everyone snaps to attention… Seriously… ๐Ÿ™‚ hey, she has my attention…. ๐Ÿ™‚

    Anyway, a bit of the climate change struck home today, 100 degrees.. and to think, it’s only mid July… Well, it’s been hot here before but still… I believe I will put off mowing the lawn until tomorrow.

    I still have one more big project ahead of me for the summer, putting up 200 feet of white board three rail fence. I am still waiting on Miss Utility to show up to mark the telephone line. Use to be I could do one of these projects in a day but… two bad knees and a bad back is a serious handicap. If I were a race horse, there would be a pack of dogs waiting for me at the finish line with knives and forks…

    Now baseball… GO FISH!!! oops, wrong blog…. The skins made a good trade picking up Taylor from the Dolphins. Their starting DE tore up his knee on the first play of practice and is out for the season… I think he was standing too close to Bobby Cox or something and that bad Karma just floated their way.


  140. 146 Voice of Raisins July 21, 2008 at 3:59 pm

    From Ken Rosenthal:

    The Angels lack pitching depth after losing right-hander Kelvim Escobar, most likely for the rest of the season. The Braves, though, wouldn’t necessarily want pitching for Teixeira. They would want first baseman Casey Kotchman, who is a favorite of manager Mike Scioscia’s and under club control for three more seasons โ€” but no Teixeira.

    The Red Sox could not justify trading Kevin Youkilis for Teixeira even if they had doubts about David Ortiz โ€” Youkilis is hitting better than Teixeira this season and is two-plus years away from free agency, as opposed to two months. The offensive difference between Teixeira, a switch-hitter, and Kotchman, a lefty swinger, is far greater โ€” and while Kotchman is excellent defensively, Teixeira is a two-time Gold Glove winner.

    An expanded deal might be necessary; the Angels could ask for a prospect or two to go with Teixeira and Ohman, who also is a free agent at the end of the season, and the Braves might want other players along with Kotchman. But what’s the worst that could happen if the deal was just Kotchman for Teixeira and Ohman? The Angels would get two draft picks if Teixeira departed, and maybe another for Ohman. Kendry Morales then could take over at first, or the Angels could find a more proven answer. First basemen always are in plentiful supply.


  141. 147 Salty July 21, 2008 at 4:26 pm

    First basemen always are in plentiful supply.

    That’s the only line of importance. Ride out the season…take the picks, for both if Ohman isn’t re-signed.


  142. 148 Carolina Lady July 21, 2008 at 4:39 pm

    Doesn’t seem to me that too many people are really interested in Tex.


  143. 149 Savannah Guy July 21, 2008 at 4:41 pm

    I dare you to say โ€œfresh picked figsโ€ five times fast.

    I’ll agree to that if you’ll attempt to say, real fast… “it takes a smart feller to say a feller’s smart”. Don’t blame me if you mess up.

    Now, baseball: The Bosox would be nuts to make a Youk for Tex trade. Wish they would, but they won’t. I’d even throw in Ohman and, uh, Chucky James. But they still wouldn’t.

    The ONLY way that would happen is if Tex called Boras and said, “get me to Boston, that’s my preferred town… and make them agree to an I-wanna-be-there-home-town discount price for a long-term deal of $__ million (less than most think he’ll get), or pay me a huge multi-mil penalty if they don’t get the contract done before ST begins next year.”

    Or something like that. Complicated stuff. ๐Ÿ˜€


  144. 150 Berigan 3, part 3, in 3-D July 21, 2008 at 4:57 pm

    Post and run….hello everyone! Welcome back VOR!!!! You are a good man to do what you did in Alaska…your wife as well. Sad to hear how bad it is for kids where your were!


  145. 151 Berigan 3, part 3, in 3-D July 21, 2008 at 5:00 pm

    And the team that will likely pay Tex what he wants, and needs him to boot, (And of course his home town)the Orioles….don’t have prospects to trade for him. Aubry Huff would be just fine for us at 1st though….gee, do you thing Wren or JS even know about such things as a signing window????

    Gotta go to the bank, later folks!


  146. 152 Gil in Mechanicsville July 21, 2008 at 6:21 pm

    Funny how much value a player has for one team and for other , not so much…

    If first basemen are so plentiful, how come the Braves don’t have some of them?


  147. 153 Voice of Raisins July 21, 2008 at 6:34 pm

    If first basemen are so plentiful, how come the Braves donโ€™t have some of them?

    He didn’t say good first basemen were plentiful, just first basemen. The Braves have several others, they just all suck. ๐Ÿ˜€


  148. 154 Gil in Mechanicsville July 21, 2008 at 6:41 pm

    Funny thing about Tex is how much is he really worth? Texas seems no worse a team without him. I still think the current Braves team lacks chemistry… they need that catalyst to make the spark to light the fire within. So far no one has stepped up.


  149. 155 Voice of Raisins July 21, 2008 at 6:50 pm

    What ever happened to Ka’somethin’ Ka’somethin’ the Hawaiian dude, anyway? (I can’t remember his name exactly) Wasn’t he a real prospect at one time? Let’s see here… Kala Ka’aihue… in 91 games at Pearl (AA) he is hitting a robust .255 with 10 homers, 45 RBI and 89 K’s. He does, however, have a .395 OBP, a .433 SP, and a .827 OPS (of which some people like, it means nothing to me) He is currently ranked, hold on now, #246 by the Scouting Book. They go on to say, though:

    The younger of the two Ka’aihue brothers, Kala (full name Isaiah Kala Ka’aihue) is the righthanded half of the matching Hawaiian sluggers. Kala was originally drafted by Boston, but declined and was later drafted by the Braves. He’s one of Atlanta’s best power prospects, drawing comparisons to Andres Galarraga. He crushed Myrtle Beach pitching in 2007 (22 homers in only 89 games) and was moved up to AA Mississippi for 2008. He’s a great sleeper, especially for as long as he quietly develops in his older brother’s shadow.

    Hmmm… quietly… Let’s hope he makes a little more noise, huh?


  150. 156 Voice of Raisins July 21, 2008 at 6:54 pm

    Now, away I must dash. I am to dine (homemade Chicken Chili) before retiring for the evening to hopefully get close to adjusting back to Eastern Daylight Time. Can’t keep goin’ on 4 hours of sleep a night, right Ber?

    Peace out, my brothers and sisters.


  151. 157 Savannah Guy July 21, 2008 at 7:52 pm

    Braves up one to nuthin’ in the third. I, for one, am on the edge of my seat.

    I’m about to make the cat leave so I can have all of my seat.


  152. 158 Savannah Guy July 21, 2008 at 8:17 pm

    Stuffville Denizens, I may have discovered what happened to our friend Paladin. This came in today:

    Pappy got hisself in some trouble — He forgot his girlfriend’s birthday. Now, Pal’s girlfriend is what you might call a high maintenance gal. Oh, she’s usually lots’a fun and all when she’s not givin’ ol’ Pappy noogies and such, but evidently there is a price to pay for being her main squeeze. It’s her temper… word is, you just don’t want to cross her, no sirree. Pal has been living dangerously.

    Anyhoo, she was really angry that he forgot her big day and told him, ‘Tomorrow morning, I expect to find my birthday gift in the driveway that goes from 0 to 200 in less than 6 seconds AND IT HAD BETTER BE THERE!!’

    The next morning, Pappy got up early and left to hang out, drink beer and ‘cruise chicks’ at the park with his buddy, Chief. Around noon, when his lady woke up she went to the kitchen and as usual, fried up a half dozen eggs and two pounds of bacon. While she was polishing off the last of her dessert of twelve pancakes she looked out the window and sure enough there was a box gift-wrapped with a big red bow on top… right there, smack dab in the middle of the driveway.

    Confused and curious, she put on her robe and ran out to the driveway and brought the box back in the house. She opened it and found a brand new… BATHROOM SCALE.

    Pappy has been missing for over a month. Please pray for him.


  153. 159 Savannah Guy July 21, 2008 at 8:37 pm

    Eating chili and retiring early? WAIT… uh, STOP. CHILI BEFORE BED ALERT.

    Raisins, put a little bakin’ soda in that chili or you may be sleepin’ on the couch. :mrgreen:


  154. 161 Salty July 21, 2008 at 9:06 pm

    SG….did you get in Klobber’s ‘stash’? ๐Ÿ˜•


  155. 162 Berigan 3, part 3, in 3-D July 21, 2008 at 10:07 pm

    I was out for much of the game, but I’d swear that whilst watching the game at the gym(Usually something great like the world series poker is on instead) I saw not one, but 2, 2 out hits that drove in runs. Is that true, or did I dream that???? I still don’t know what to think…though I bet we play just good enough to keep Tex and get two picks…..whoopee! ๐Ÿ™„


  156. 163 Gil in Mechanicsville July 21, 2008 at 11:16 pm

    Does anyone else feel confused by the Jeckel and Hyde Braves this year?


  157. 164 flbravesgirl July 21, 2008 at 11:22 pm

    Good evening y’all. Excellent work by Senor Campillo this evening. Gil, I feel like we’re really seeing what you saw out of Lilly last year. Kid looked great at SS.


  158. 165 flbravesgirl July 21, 2008 at 11:24 pm

    SG ๐Ÿ˜†


  159. 166 Berigan 3, part 3, in 3-D July 22, 2008 at 7:59 am

    VOR, had that coffee yet!!!! ๐Ÿ˜€ <—-VOR’s emoticon….I think that every time I use it! ๐Ÿ™‚


  160. 167 Berigan 3, part 3, in 3-D July 22, 2008 at 9:10 am

    That was supposed to read, VOR, had that coffee yet???


    Gil, Jeckel and Hyde…an apt description! I thought after Tex won that crazy extra inning affair, we’d go on a tear…nope.

    They remind me of the bad news braves in that way….remember how one year in the mid late 80s they got off to a great start one april….I think Dale Murphy drove in 30 in that first month….I thought for sure they were on their way….I think they finished last, once again….


  161. 168 Carolina Lady July 22, 2008 at 9:14 am

    Braves trading Teixeira to Angels?
    Posted: Tuesday July 22, 2008 06:28AM ET

    With baseball’s trade deadline in 10 days, one rumor has Los Angeles Angels utility player Robb Quinlan and minor league third baseman Brandon Wood headed to Atlanta for slugger Mark Teixeira, who can become a free agent at season’s end.

    St. Paul Pioneer Press


  162. 169 Carolina Lady July 22, 2008 at 9:17 am

    Burrell unhappy with manager
    Posted: Monday July 21, 2008 06:23AM ET

    Pat Burrell was not happy with Phillies manager Charlie Manuel’s decision to remove him late in yesterday’s 11-inning loss to the Florida Marlins. “I’m upset, absolutely,” Burrell said. “I’m upset, and I have been for a long time. It’s not personal. I don’t want to ever come out of close games.” Manuel routinely replaces his leftfielder with a speedier defender when the Phillies have leads late in games. Yesterday, Burrell was replaced by Eric Bruntlett in the bottom of the eighth with the Phils ahead, 2-1. Cole Hamels gave up a game-tying home run in the inning.

    Philadelphia Inquirer


  163. 170 Carolina Lady July 22, 2008 at 9:19 am

    Maddux wants to stay west
    Posted: Monday July 21, 2008 01:20PM ET

    The Padres plan to ask right-hander Greg Maddux to reconsider his preference to be traded to a West Coast team only. But Maddux, who has complete no-trade protection, is unlikely to budge. Maddux’s agent, Scott Boras, says the pitcher’s desire to stay on the West Coast is “entirely related to his family.” Maddux, who is married with two children makes his permanent home in Las Vegas. The Dodgers, then, loom as the only realistic possibility for Maddux, who has spent his entire career in the National League. The Padres, operating without leverage, would be at a disadvantage in trade discussions.


  164. 171 Carolina Lady July 22, 2008 at 9:20 am

    Nady, Marte drawing heavy interest
    Posted: Monday July 21, 2008 10:14AM ET

    Outfielder Xavier Nady and reliever Damaso Marte continue to draw the most interest for the Pirates and, for that reason, they remain most likely to go. But neither will be given away. Two prospects will be sought for each. Nady’s prime suitors remain the Tampa Bay Rays — who might be the favorite because of their wealth of prospects — and the New York Mets, New York Yankees and Atlanta Braves. Marte’s suitors are a dozen deep. Teams discouraged by Marte’s price are asking again about John Grabow, now that he is back on the mound. Shortstop Jack Wilson and outfielder Jason Bay have also received interest from other teams.

    Pittsburgh Post-Gazette


  165. 172 Berigan 3, part 3, in 3-D July 22, 2008 at 9:30 am

    CL, interesting! If I were the Pirates front office, why give up either Nady or Bay, unless you are overwhelmed with an offer??? They play pretty decent baseball. I heard a little while back, that their outfield has hit more homers than any other. They are 9 games under .500. We are 5 under. I don’t think we have the chips, the Rays sure do. And they really need a right fielder.
    I kind of laugh at the Mets forever talking about getting him. They had him, and traded him away. And they barely have any talent in the minors. Pirates would be nuts to trade him to them….


  166. 173 lew614 July 22, 2008 at 9:43 am

    I fail to see what the sudden fascination with Nady is. Nady has been in the bigs for seven years. He has a career OBP of .335 and before this HALF SEASON, never hit more than .280 and never played more than 130 games-all of this just once. He has 3 more HR than Francoeur in twice his MLB playing time and has 15 LESS RBI than Frenchy. He also plays and puts up these numbers in a hitter’s park where there is not a single bit of pressure on either him or the team to perform.

    This guy is not worth what the Pirates want for him. He’s a fourth outfielder who is having a breakout HALF SEASON and nothing more. Someone on the other blog was positively ecstatic over trading Francoeur AND JoJo Reyes for him. Strangely enough, there were more agreeing with this And Idiot that with we more sensible types.

    He might be a decent addition for a stretch run. He’s worth two B prospects (minor league) certainly not two ML starters. This is not an elite player as some seem to think.


  167. 174 Gil in Mechanicsville July 22, 2008 at 10:20 am

    Personal opinion, not based on hard facts….

    I think what the Braves really need is a shake up in the coaching staff, it does not necessarily have to be Bobby. I think the talent level is there, they are just not performing up to expectations nor to their abilities.

    That is what frustrates me most about this team… Underachievers…


  168. 175 flbravesgirl July 22, 2008 at 11:19 am

    Good morning y’all. I don’t blame Maddux for being picky. At this point, he’s earned the right to decide where he plays.

    Don’t really get the “bidding war” for Nady. I agree with Lew, he’s a 4th outfielder.

    Gil, I think that’s a good idea. I’d keep McDowell & Eddie, clearly they’re doing something right with the pitching, and Hubbard, who we know works his butt off. I don’t know enough about Snitker to say yea or nay. But TP & the Pillsbury Doughboy need to go. Hate to say it about Pendleton. He was great as a player & leader but just doesn’t seem to cut it as hitting coach.


  169. 176 lew614 July 22, 2008 at 11:52 am

    Find a way to bring back Pat Corrales. Everything went downhill after he left as bench coach. Plus he’s a really great guy. I miss joking with him at spring training. Best bench coach in the business-he also managed two ML teams.


  170. 177 flbravesgirl July 22, 2008 at 11:58 am

    Yeah, I think Corrales was the strategy guy.


  171. 178 Gil in Mechanicsville July 22, 2008 at 12:20 pm

    I think Pat is pretty happy with the Nats… He knows they are building. Nothing ever came out as to why Corrales left in the first place, nobody was taking, it just happened. A lot of folks thought he was going to Florida with Freddie. Personality conflict with the manager? Money? Does anyone know the real story?


  172. 179 flbravesgirl July 22, 2008 at 12:30 pm

    I had heard that it had to do with retirement/benefits.


  173. 180 Carolina Lady July 22, 2008 at 12:38 pm

    I’m pretty sure FBG is right, Gil. Apparently the Braves offered little or nothing in the way of retirement which was the sticking point with Pat. The Nats offered him a big raise PLUS a great retirement package – so he left.

    I agree. I think he was the real brains on the bench. Bobby was the ‘people guy.’


  174. 181 flbravesgirl July 22, 2008 at 12:43 pm

    Isn’t that a shame? I hope they’re doing better by their employees now that they’re out from under TW’s cheapskate thumb.


  175. 182 lew614 July 22, 2008 at 12:48 pm

    Gil-Yes, there was a reason-I’ve been told in confidentiality what it is. Had nothing whatsover to do with the Braves, their policies or anything organizational. It was a peripheral MLB issue. The Braves just accommodated Pat by letting him leave.


  176. 183 lew614 July 22, 2008 at 12:50 pm

    Ma’am-The Braves are not the ones who issue “retirement plans”-at least not to Coaches or players. It all comes under the heading of the MLB office and (especially in Pat’s case, since he was a player as well), the Player’s Assn. pension plan.


  177. 184 Carolina Lady July 22, 2008 at 1:20 pm

    Thanks for the clarification, Lew.


  178. 185 Voice of Raisins July 22, 2008 at 1:32 pm

    Ugh… I need that coffee now, Ber. Yesterday, I woke up at 5:30am and couldn’t go back to sleep. Today, I slept until 12:15pm and still feel like a zombie. I think I’m late for work. ๐Ÿ˜€


  179. 186 Carolina Lady July 22, 2008 at 1:46 pm

    Hey, Raisins! Welcome back to life! ๐Ÿ˜€

    (Alaska to Georgia is a tough adjustment!)


  180. 187 Gil in Mechanicsville July 22, 2008 at 4:11 pm

    Raisins… Now you know how I felt working a rotating shift for 35 years… Permanent jet lag, no wonder I wasn’t very nice… ๐Ÿ™‚


  181. 188 Voice of Raisins July 22, 2008 at 4:39 pm

    From Ken Rosenthal:

    Here’s quite a statement on the decline of Dodgers center fielder Andruw Jones: A rival evaluator, noting that the Dodgers have recently played Jones, shortstop Nomar Garciaparra and second baseman Jeff Kent in their up-the-middle positions, said that Jones was the worst defender of the three.

    Ouch! ๐Ÿ˜ฏ


  182. 189 Berigan 3, part 3, in 3-D July 22, 2008 at 5:34 pm

    VOR, that is saying something, what with Kent being 40, and Nomar being considered a subpar SS these days! I did see some of a Dodgers game with Nomar at short, and he didn’t look too bad….

    ESPN’ Steve Berthiaume has jokingly called Nady the Untyer for all the runs he has driven in putting the Pirates up…..he was injured and didn’t do much in June, but he has started to hit again in July. He is hitting 93 points higher than Frenchy!
    No, not even pretending to say he is better than Frenchy….well, he is this year, but who knows what he will do next year???? Let the Rays overpay….it would be nice to have a left fielder though…


  183. 191 Salty July 22, 2008 at 6:03 pm

    Bobby Cox is suspended for tonight’s game for excessive arguing on Sunday! What the ???? ๐Ÿ™„

    So…how many games does the jerk umpire get for instigating the whole affair? He went way over the line…and no consequences?


  184. 192 Voice of Raisins July 22, 2008 at 6:06 pm

    Bobby Cox is suspended for tonightโ€™s game for excessive arguing on Sunday! What the ????

    Soโ€ฆhow many games does the jerk umpire get for instigating the whole affair? He went way over the lineโ€ฆand no consequences?

    I totally agree! What a pant-load. I wonder if BC has the same right to appeal that the players have…


  185. 193 Voice of Raisins July 22, 2008 at 6:08 pm

    Gone for the evening… Please pray that my normal sleep routine returns quickly. I have been in a fog all day.

    Hasta la pasta! ๐Ÿ˜€


  186. 194 Carolina Lady July 22, 2008 at 6:17 pm

    “I’m not going to fight it because you aren’t going to win,” Cox said.


  187. 195 Salty July 22, 2008 at 8:14 pm

    Every day is ‘Groundhog Day’! ๐Ÿ˜ฆ


  188. 196 Carolina Lady July 22, 2008 at 8:31 pm

    Anybody got a deck of cards?


  189. 197 Berigan 3, part 3, in 3-D July 22, 2008 at 8:44 pm

    Was feeling a bit off, so was laying down til a few minutes ago. So, we are being no hit by a guy who hasn’t pitched in the big leagues since April, with a ERA around 9 before tonight??? Barf!!!!


  190. 198 Gil in Mechanicsville July 22, 2008 at 8:45 pm



  191. 199 Carolina Lady July 22, 2008 at 8:49 pm

    I was hoping that Bobby being (unjustly, IMO) suspended tonight would give the team extra incentive to do well. Guess not…..


  192. 200 Berigan 3, part 3, in 3-D July 22, 2008 at 8:57 pm

    Gil, did Lucy pull the football away just as you were about to kick it???? ๐Ÿ˜€


  193. 201 Gil in Mechanicsville July 22, 2008 at 8:57 pm

    I was discussing the Braves with the wife tonight and I think the Braves should trade Tex, that is if they can get a couple of decent prospects, otherwise keep him until the end of the year. However, I would move McCann to first and bring up Sammons to catch. Mac needs to hit everyday and he cannot do that as a catcher.

    Stenchy had an awful at bat with the bases loaded chasing two pitches high out of the zone. Just painful to watch him play right now.


  194. 202 Carolina Lady July 22, 2008 at 9:05 pm

    As Chipper said the other day, “A little league team could beat this team right now.”


  195. 203 Gil in Mechanicsville July 22, 2008 at 9:10 pm

    I am not a great admirer of Jim Bowden , GM for the Nats, but I think if Frenchy played for him, he would have him playing for Potomac until he figured out he wasn’t bigger than the team. Bowden did not back down when Soriano said he would only play 2nd base… He got the message that he would play where the team wanted him to play or not at all for anyone.


  196. 204 Berigan 3, part 3, in 3-D July 22, 2008 at 9:13 pm

    Gil, moving McCann to 1st, and Sammons to catch, sounds like a good idea! McCann tries hard, but he isn’t the best catcher in the world. He just can’t seem to block a plate properly to save his life, he calls a good game though. And as good a hitter as he is, might as well move him to 1st, he will hit 10-20 points higher at 1st.

    As for trading for prospects….I heard the GM of the Indians talking during an ESPN game about trading Sabathia, and how he said he had to get someone better than the 2 picks they would get for him, and thats how they got Matt LaPorta….Brewers won’t keep Sabathia most likely, so it’s just a rental. We should be able to get one can’t miss prospect, or a Casey Kotchman + someone else…..of course, the Angels never trade players…


  197. 205 Gil in Mechanicsville July 22, 2008 at 9:13 pm

    Do you think Tex has given Borras his list of teams he would like to play for? Underachieving team…..


  198. 206 Gil in Mechanicsville July 22, 2008 at 9:17 pm

    Yes, If they cannot get a can’t miss prospect they may as well keep the picks.


  199. 207 Berigan 3, part 3, in 3-D July 22, 2008 at 9:17 pm

    Gil, I heard both Bobby and Wren say at different different times it was the toughest baseball decision they have ever had to make….why???? Sure, he plays hard, plays hurt….but, he can’t hit right now….it is hurting the braves to play him every day, batting him 6th(Instead of Kotsay.) just like it hurt to keep Andruw in the line-up batting cleanup, for half the year last year.


  200. 208 Gil in Mechanicsville July 22, 2008 at 9:22 pm

    How many times have we heard that baseball is a business? You cannot let emotion and friendship rule your head. Otherwise you will be standing in the welfare line because you let emotions pull you under. Bottom line, play to a major league level or prepare yourself to play in the minors…


  201. 209 Gil in Mechanicsville July 22, 2008 at 9:26 pm

    I use to tell folks the biggest difference between AAA and the majors was the pitchers and the umpires. After this season, I think it is only the pitching. The umpiring tonight sucks… Really….


  202. 210 flbravesgirl July 22, 2008 at 9:56 pm

    Good evening y’all. That was not fun. Guess they used up all the good play on yesterday’s game.


  203. 211 Gil in Mechanicsville July 22, 2008 at 10:13 pm

    FBG… It was butt ugly….


  204. 212 Gil in Mechanicsville July 22, 2008 at 10:15 pm

    a lot like the rest of the season has been…


  205. 213 Gil in Mechanicsville July 22, 2008 at 10:16 pm

    okay, I am done… see ya’ll in the morning…


  206. 214 flbravesgirl July 22, 2008 at 10:29 pm

    Sort of like Chino waddling out to the mound… or maybe that’s gut ugly. Why won’t they get that man bigger pants?


  207. 215 morpheus45 July 22, 2008 at 11:02 pm

    The umpire tonight in my humble opinion deserves to get exactly the same treatment Tim Donaghey got from the NBA. The man was so completely obviously throwing the game for the Marlins (as if he needed to) that he really deserves a felony charge for deliberately obstructing the outcome of a sporting event. It wasn’t that he was blind or had bad judgement; Pinto who came up right after Ring was of similar stature and had a similar delivery. Every single pitch he threw even close to the plate was called a strike; Ring struck out the batter for out number three the previous inning on four consecutive pitches that split the plate belt high. The Marlins crowd was even visibly uneasy with the calls, and they were benefiting from it. Simpson, on the second of those four pitches, said “(umpire’s name), ladies and gentlemen.” That was a total disgrace to all of professional sports. And the funny thing was all it did was make it a 4-0 game instead of 3-0. It would be interesting to find out what bet was being made by the mafia that he was covering. And no, I’m not even close to joking.


  208. 216 morpheus45 July 22, 2008 at 11:04 pm

    Any body else further disgusted with Wren that Lillibridge was sent down for Infante instead of Francouer?


  209. 217 Voice of Raisins July 23, 2008 at 12:24 am

    Baseball Prospectus’ WIll Carroll:

    Once again, no one seems to know what the Dodgers are doing. Reports that theyโ€™re showcasing Andy LaRoche and discussing Matt Kemp in deals are balanced against discussions involving Jack Wilson on the low end and Mark Teixeira on the high end. A rumor has been making the rounds that the Dodgers would be willing to eat some of Andruw Jonesโ€˜ deal and send him back as part of a package for Teixeira were shot down by both sides.


  210. 218 Voice of Raisins July 23, 2008 at 12:28 am



  211. 219 flbravesgirl July 23, 2008 at 12:54 am

    There has been some particularly atrocious umpiring lately.


  212. 220 Savannah Guy July 23, 2008 at 7:56 am

    It would be interesting to find out what bet was being made by the mafia that he was covering.

    Grinch, itโ€™s like that, or maybe the ghost of Eric Gregg. Maybe Tony Montana has dropped out of coke and gotten into sports. โ€œMy little friendโ€ turns out to be a $100 bill to the ump for a purposeful bad call โ€˜the right wayโ€™.

    I’ve been griping about umpiring for years but this year seems to be the worst. I’ve said it many times:

    Because the Umpire Union is too strong;

    Because the Playerโ€™s Union is too self-centered and myopic;

    Because Selig is too weak, stupid, greedy and addled by the ownerโ€™s contingent;

    QuesTec and Video replay (with proof, accountability and penalties to umps) is the ONLY way to keep the sport from being corrupted.

    Trust me, I donโ€™t like the thought of removing some of the human element out of the game any more than any other baseball traditionalist, but whatโ€™s worse? Thereโ€™s big money in sports. Where thereโ€™s big money and no accountability, there is corruption. Itโ€™s naรฏve to think otherwise.

    Another thought: after witnessing the last few years of .500 Braves baseball with the nadir being this year (or next), it seems the new Disney formula is rubbing off on our team. Just put the show on and fill the seats. Itโ€™s just a tourist attraction and a broadcast property to Libertyโ€ฆ all revenue and a new herd of neophytes to walk through the turnstiles every day.

    The MLB in general and certain teams specifically are like a tourist trap restaurant where the service is bad, the food is mediocre but the decor is nice the advertising is frequent and the people that don’t know any better keep standing in line to eat it all up. Itโ€™s about formula, no heart and the product has deteriorated. Whereโ€™s Walt when ya need him? Heโ€™d getโ€™em animated properly.

    Boy, that was negative. I still love baseball… maybe that’s why I get so disgusted when I see what some are doing to my sport. By the way, Bob Costas has been having some great baseball shows on HBO.


  213. 221 Savannah Guy July 23, 2008 at 8:10 am

    French must be an untouchable Disney property or know where the bodies are buried. Maybe he’s still here because the club thinks he fills the seats with local yokels. That is going to backfire and it’s not Francoeur’s fault. Is Cox or Wren waiting for French to sit on his own, send himself to the minors or platoon himself? It’s so beyond pitiful and absurd that it’s almost funny… in a sad, pitiful and absurd way.

    My lineup: Lilly (2b), Yunel (ss), Chipper, Tex, McCann, Kotsay, platoon Kelly and Blanco (RF)… then platoon LF with either Diaz, Infante, Prado, Anderson and after a two week stint in the minors, throw French in the LF platoon mix.

    And get rid of Chino. The only reason he’s in there is because he speaks spanish and he’s the only person available that can’t beat Cox to the mound.

    Sad but true, hard but fair. There’s no crying in baseball.


  214. 222 Savannah Guy July 23, 2008 at 8:17 am

    I use to tell folks the biggest difference between AAA and the majors was the pitchers and the umpires. After this season, I think it is only the pitching.

    Gil, I think you’re forgetting the other AAA level players in the MLB. Which Braves outfielder and second basemen, other than Kotsay, should be starting in the majors right now?


  215. 223 Gil in Mechanicsville July 23, 2008 at 8:29 am

    Like I said, many of the position players are interchangeable. After many years of watching players come through the system, I get a good sense of who is legit and who is filling out a roster so the prospect has a team to play on.

    I might also add that for many years, the stadium vendors in a major league park had a certain flair about them too. Maybe what is true today is you actually have vendors still plying their trade in the stands. In minor league parks everything is pretty much self serve..


  216. 224 Voice of Raisins July 23, 2008 at 9:33 am

    In July, the Utah Supreme Court ordered a new trial for Erik Low, now 40, ruling that a jury should have considered the possibility of a lesser crime than manslaughter in the 2003 shooting death of a man who had just 15 seconds earlier during a fight given Low what was described as a violent wedgie. – Salt Lake Tribune, 7-2-08

    Gimme a break. It’s a slow news day… ๐Ÿ˜€


  217. 225 Gil in Mechanicsville July 23, 2008 at 9:40 am

    Sounds pretty “Low” to me….


  218. 226 flbravesgirl July 23, 2008 at 10:38 am

    Good morning y’all. SG, now don’t you start bad-mouthing Disney left & right. I heard more than enough of that out of O’Brien.


  219. 227 lew614 July 23, 2008 at 11:22 am

    FBG-Having had a residence in Orlando for 11 years, I’ve got to tell you that Disney is a worthwhile thing to do once every ten years IF you have young children. Other than that, as a neighbor, they suck. They buy up all land and zoning variances, get sweetheart deals on property, and taxes, treat their employees like dirt, paying them substandard wages-and aren’t much better with the people who squander all sorts of unimaginable $$$$$ in the Mouse’s abode.

    As a neighbor? I wish they’d move back to California and just leave the stadium.


  220. 228 lew614 July 23, 2008 at 11:23 am

    And let’s not even discuss the traffic problems they cause.


  221. 229 Voice of Raisins July 23, 2008 at 11:28 am

    It’s a small world after all… ๐Ÿ˜€


  222. 230 flbravesgirl July 23, 2008 at 11:30 am

    Actually my family buys year-long passes every 2 or 3 years. Apparently we’re tasteless morons for liking it.


  223. 231 lew614 July 23, 2008 at 11:40 am

    Take umbrage all you want and try to turn it personal. Whatever. They are terrible neighbors, cause massive traffic backups that far outweigh any benefit they bring to the community, pay poverty wages and generally tick off all residents of Orlando. Buy all the passes you want-and visit them in Anaheim.

    When I lived on the other coast of Florida, I liked them too. Not so much having them in my back yard-accomplishing nothing but a massive raise in my taxes and insurance payments because of all the Mouseketeers squandering their money.


  224. 232 flbravesgirl July 23, 2008 at 11:59 am

    Look, Lew, I wasn’t talking about Disney as a neighbor or their effect on taxes, traffic or anything else. I’m sorry they made your taxes high but I promise they’re high all over Florida & the traffic is awful everywhere. What bugged me is that you & SG seemed to be implying that only idiots would go there. I’m sure there are other people here who have been to Disney World & enjoyed it. I sure hope you don’t think we’re all idiots.


  225. 233 lew614 July 23, 2008 at 12:06 pm

    That is how you take it, not necessarily how it was meant. I just had my fixed rate mortgage go up almost $100 a month for escrow payments because of the congestion Disney causes on I4 and the cost to us, the taxpayers, for fixing a problem that needed fixing 10 years ago (which wouldn’t exist without Disney). That is a fact. Did your taxes go up that much on the West Coast because of traffic planning? Don’t think so. I lived THGERE for 12 years as well.

    Look, I’ve gone to the Magic Kingdom a couple of times, WWOS for the Braves more times than I can count, to Downtown Disney (actually met Jason In Maine there this spring for dinner) and to Disney MGM and Epcot. It is not my cup of tea, but to each their own. My son and daughter in law enjoy SeaWorld-I don’t.

    However, don’t confuse your fun with what it costs myself and everyone else in Orlando for the privilege of Disney buying all available land and getting the aforementioned sweetheart deals. I look at them like I would a nuclear facility-Maybe somewhat beneficial, but dealing with the daily meltdowns is less than acceptable.


  226. 234 lew614 July 23, 2008 at 12:08 pm

    Oh-And if I thought you were And Idiot, do you seriously think I wouldn’t have said as much?


  227. 235 Voice of Raisins July 23, 2008 at 12:10 pm

    Sounds like the people who move in near the airport and complain about the noise. It is what it is. There’s both good and bad, just on the extreme side of the scale. The same could be said about Turner Field, Lakewood Ampitheater, etc.

    For what it’s worth, my 5-year-old is looking forward to squandering some of Dad’s $$$ down there in October…


  228. 236 Carolina Lady July 23, 2008 at 12:14 pm

    This And Idiot enjoyed her visits to Disney World. Seems to bring a lot of business to the area. We paid hefty hotel prices, ate in restaurants, bought gas, paid for many things while there. On all the visits.


  229. 237 lew614 July 23, 2008 at 12:21 pm

    Good-then maybe y’all would like to pay the tax increase for me? Believe me, no one benefits from Disney’s business except for Disney.


  230. 238 Savannah Guy July 23, 2008 at 12:22 pm

    FBG, calm down young lady. I’m sure the Disney World that you’re speaking of and visiting is fun for you and the for the kids. I was talkin’ about the direction they’ve taken the company and their declining film quality and other products, that’s all. Looks like Lew is talking about their effect on the community and such. Sometimes bigger is not better. Disney is a classic example of that. They should just move to Vegas where all the other thrill seekers go.

    Just two different perspectives on the same corporation having very little nothing to do with the rides or the Magic Kingdom experience. So chill little sister… but it’s all just Mickey Mouse stuff to me.

    Mighty Mouse could mop the floor with Mickey. Goofy wouldn’t stand a chance with Bullwinkle. Rocky weren’t no pushover either. Road Runner was cool. Heckyll and Jekyll would just laugh at all ofโ€™em. :mrgreen:

    Disney was ruined by those not named Walt Disney. Eisner was the worst. Oh, but the rides are probably still fun and after all, they do have Myley Cyrus and Hannah Montana. Hopefully they wonโ€™t grow up to be like Britney Spears and Lindsay Lohan, those other Disney ‘properties’.


  231. 239 Carolina Lady July 23, 2008 at 12:24 pm

    The peaceful little county that I live in used to be a wonderful, relaxed place to live. Then Yankees discovered it. Land prices are astronomical. The entire place is nearly paved over and built upon. Houses crammed on tiny quarter-acre lots selling for $500,000+. Taxes have gone through the roof and are climbing rapidly. Schools having to be built left and right. Traffic??? You wouldn’t believe it! The roads are full of potholes and are miserable. Parking? Ha! Consumers goods? Geared for those up north who brought all their money with them. One huge mall even brags about how much it costs there – and they do a booming business. Wildlife? A few little remaining pockets here and there that haven’t YET been bulldozed may have a few survivors. More and more ‘regular’ families are being taxed out of their homes – but who cares? There’s another Yankee waiting to buy it. The place is totally destroyed, horribly overcrowded, expensive and noisy. And Disney World is 600 miles away.


  232. 240 Savannah Guy July 23, 2008 at 12:28 pm

    CL, I’d take kids there too. Just not on ‘Pink’ day, or whatever they call it. That’s where, if you have sex with one of your own gender you can get in free. I wonder if they have to prove it at the turnstiles? Those that started that are idiots.

    Now… on to my just picked ‘mater sammich.


  233. 241 lew614 July 23, 2008 at 12:35 pm

    And you seriously think that is any different in Orlando? Since we moved in there in 97, they’ve reclaimed all swamp land and forest. There were Bald eagles and deer walking the streets and flying around. Not any more. They put in the largest shopping center I’ve ever seen and conveniently forgot to increase infrastructure. Traffic is horrendous. It takes me as long to go to a Wal Mart 35 miles away in New Hampshire as it does to go the Wal Mart two miles away in Orlando. The house I bought for 96,000 is now worth 275,000 (at least before this latest drop off-we won’t even discuss WHY this happened or WHO might have been responsible). This is all wonderful-IF and WHEN I decide to sell-IF I don’t go broke in the meantime paying for all this “Progress” that is so essential to Disney.

    However, it has nothing whatsoever to do with the fun y’all might have riding the rides, waiting in line for hours to do so or paying their outrageous prices for mediocre food and souvenirs. THAT is your doing and effects me in no way. Spend your money as you see fit. Raisins-I hope the kiddies enjoy themselves and appreciate what it cost you.

    But when you go to see the Mouse and The Duck, maybe you should give thanks to me and the other denizens of Orlando who paid for the nice road you’re driving on. Believe me-It wasn’t Disney who paid for it. WE did. Hope you like it.


  234. 242 Savannah Guy July 23, 2008 at 12:36 pm

    CL, I don’t mind the yankees… can’t really blame’em for wantin’ to live in paradise. If there’s any left when the migration is complete. Wait ’til you see what happens when the Chinese buy everything. ๐Ÿ˜ฏ

    That’s not even going to be the biggest problem if you can believe that. By the time all the illegal immigrants file in to America in waves, your world will change in every way. It will not be pretty.

    Get a load of this.


  235. 243 Savannah Guy July 23, 2008 at 12:38 pm

    Now, that sammich is a’callin’. Later ‘maters.


  236. 244 Voice of Raisins July 23, 2008 at 12:39 pm

    Sounds like fruitopia… ๐Ÿ˜€


  237. 245 Voice of Raisins July 23, 2008 at 12:43 pm

    Really, Lew, I’m just pokin’ you with a stick. It is a slow news day, after all…

    Maybe we should start some outrageous trade rumor and see how far it flies.


  238. 246 Carolina Lady July 23, 2008 at 12:52 pm

    Lew, the point was that terrible things are happening to our homelands that are terribly detrimental to the natives/residents all over that have nothing to do with Disney. The destruction, taxes, cost, crowding, etc are SHARED experiences. Your bitterness is directed at Disney, mine is at the northern invaders who have barged in and sneeringly taken over wherever possible.


  239. 247 Carolina Lady July 23, 2008 at 12:55 pm

    Ok – how about Hudson and Francoeur to SD for Maddux?


  240. 248 flbravesgirl July 23, 2008 at 12:58 pm

    I agree about the movies, SG. Not up to the old standards.

    And Disney does not sponsor or give official recognition to the , um, alternative lifestyle day. It’s organized by an outside group. If they are getting in “free” someone bought the tickets for them. It’s not like Disney can bar them, they’d get slapped with the mother of all discrimination lawsuits.


  241. 249 Voice of Raisins July 23, 2008 at 1:00 pm

    How about Corky Miller for, uh, aw heck… just take him!


  242. 250 Savannah Guy July 23, 2008 at 1:20 pm

    Tex, Corky, French and Chuck James for Youkilis. Even steven.


  243. 251 Voice of Raisins July 23, 2008 at 1:36 pm

    How about Corky and $2.25 for a Monster energy drink?


  244. 252 Voice of Raisins July 23, 2008 at 2:52 pm

    As the Braves continue to prove they aren’t legitimate postseason contenders, general manager Frank Wren is moving closer to trading Mark Teixeira, Will Ohman and Mark Kotsay. But despite some recent speculation, he is not shopping Mike Gonzalez and has no intention to do so.

    Baseball Prospectus’ Will Carroll speculated Tuesday night that the Rangers would be willing to deal Frank Catalanotto, Marlon Byrd or Milton Bradley to the Braves in exchange Gonzalez.

    Reacting to that rumor on Wednesday morning, one Braves official said, “Gonzalez will not be traded before the deadline or during this off-season unless Texas offers us Josh Hamilton.”

    With the high salaries owed to Teixeira, John Smoltz, Tom Glavine and Mike Hampton coming off the books at the end of this year, the Braves will feel comfortable going into next year paying approximately $10 million to have both Gonzalez and Rafael Soriano in their bullpen.

    Interest in Ohman has picked up recently. The Braves are looking for something greater than the Type B compensation they’d receive if they were to offer him arbitration and lose him to free agency this year.

    In addition, the Braves continue to say they’ll keep Teixeira for the remainder of this season if they feel they can get better compensation through the draft picks they’d receive after losing him on the free agent market.

    Mark Bowman

    Kotsay? Really? Interesting…


  245. 253 Savannah Guy July 23, 2008 at 2:53 pm

    Corky’s Cloverfield-Ade


  246. 254 Voice of Raisins July 23, 2008 at 2:59 pm

    Corky’s BBQ…




  247. 255 Berigan 3, part 3, in 3-D July 23, 2008 at 3:27 pm

    Wow. Losing makes people B*tchy! ๐Ÿ™‚ SG, you gripe about Disney, and give money to T/W-HBO, that really surprises me!
    Lew sounds like folks shouldn’t like Disney World because his taxes are high. I guess I fall in the FLB, CL, VOR camp…..I loved Disney land and Disney World as a kid! Great memories. It’s very expensive these days, but kids still love it. And so do their parents…..


  248. 256 Berigan 3, part 3, in 3-D July 23, 2008 at 3:31 pm

    We’d have to trade Corky with a prospect, getting nothing in return, to get rid of him! ๐Ÿ˜€

    CL, I’m one of those damn Yankees, by the by! ๐Ÿ˜› Actually, I am a damn midwesterner by birth. Not Yankee or Southerner.

    Shouldn’t there have been some griping about illegals in there somewheres???? They sure cost us all a lot of money in taxes not collected, medial bills not paid….schooling we pay for, that they don’t…..


  249. 257 Berigan 3, part 3, in 3-D July 23, 2008 at 3:35 pm

    VOR, that Will Carroll is and idiot!!!! I saw that rumor on mlbtraderumors.com yesterday, and just laughed! I’d personally punch Wren in the face if he traded Gonzo! He just doesn’t blow saves, that is far too valueable a commodity these days. Glad to hear he would only trade him for Hamilton. Wren is no dummy. Getting Jurrjens, Ohman, and Infante , for what he gave up, proves that.

    Trading Kotsay??? What, are they afraid he’ll cost too much next year??? ๐Ÿ™„ Granted, he’s been injured a fair bit, but he’s are best hitting outfielder!


  250. 258 Gil in Mechanicsville July 23, 2008 at 3:46 pm

    Wow… so much going on I don’t know who to bite first? ๐Ÿ™‚


  251. 259 Gil in Mechanicsville July 23, 2008 at 3:48 pm

    No, Kotsay was a summer fill in until Schafer was ready… remember?


  252. 260 Savannah Guy July 23, 2008 at 3:50 pm

    Shouldnโ€™t there have been some griping about illegals in there somewheres????

    Uh, can’t read previous posts or watch the linked immigration video clip?


  253. 261 Berigan 3, part 3, in 3-D July 23, 2008 at 3:50 pm

    Just read this on the mlbtrade rumors…bare with the info for a sec…

    …..If the Reds offer Dunn arbitration, he may decline because he prefers to play elsewhere or prefers to seek a multiyear free agent contract. If he declines the Reds’ offer and signs elsewhere, the Reds will receive two draft picks.

    Let’s say the Yankees sign Dunn. The Reds will then receive one ’09 draft pick from the Yankees. If the Yankees have, say, the 22nd overall pick next June, the Reds get that in addition to their own normal first round pick. The Reds also get a supplemental draft pick squeezed in between the first and second round of the draft. The Reds only get the Yankees’ first-round pick if it falls between #16-30. The first 15 picks are protected. So if the Nationals sign Dunn, the Reds are kind of screwed because they do not get the Nats’ #2 overall pick. Instead, they get the Nats’ second round pick and the supplemental pick.

    I didn’t know that! You didn’t get a teams pick, if they really sucked! Why mention this? read on….

    the Braves will keep Mark Teixeira if they can’t top the two draft picks they’d receive for him. The risk there would be if Baltimore signs Teixeira and their first round pick is protected.

    Great. Lose him, the 5 guys we traded for him, and just get a sandwich pick. They damn well better trade him!!!

    Out til later this evening…play nice everyone!


  254. 262 Berigan 3, part 3, in 3-D July 23, 2008 at 3:55 pm

    Sorry SG! ๐Ÿ˜ณ If I see you have made a short post, I just skip right over it! :mrgreen:

    Gil, that may be the case….but he’s still our best hitting outfielder right now….they were afraid of Schafer and Anderson this spring…is Schafer tearing the cover off the ball this summer??? Still gotta go!


  255. 263 Gil in Mechanicsville July 23, 2008 at 3:57 pm

    And tourist dollars are tourist dollars…. Important lessons in life… No such thing as a free lunch, somewhere down the road you are going to have to pay for it one way or the other.

    Or maybe you are just picking up the tab to treat someone else… ๐Ÿ™‚

    Anyway, I’m as happy as a pig in slop, the county returned some of my hard earned tax dollars today and put gravel on my road…. Not hard surface mind you but gravel just the same… Wow, are we up town or what? ๐Ÿ™‚

    I think I will call and have a couple of loads put in my driveway. I must say it is tough when you own two black cars and live on a dirt road….

    One last bit of wisdom, the only thing worse than having the state put a highway through your house is just missing it by 20 feet….


  256. 264 Savannah Guy July 23, 2008 at 3:58 pm

    SG, you gripe about Disney, and give money to T/W-HBO, that really surprises me!

    With that logic, I suppose you don’t gripe about the price of gasoline or anything else you buy that you don’t make or grow yourself.


  257. 265 Savannah Guy July 23, 2008 at 4:00 pm

    I think I will call and have a couple of loads put in my driveway.

    Gil is buying cows for the farm? :mrgreen:


  258. 266 Savannah Guy July 23, 2008 at 4:02 pm

    Corky’s Wine Bar. ๐Ÿ˜€


  259. 267 Gil in Mechanicsville July 23, 2008 at 4:02 pm

    When you are a seller, you don’t worry about what is left…. that is why they would entertain offers for Kotsey. then let the kids get experience in the majors. They cannot possible be any worse than Francoeur right now…

    However, the Braves have always been very secretive about who they want as far as trades. I doubt they will say anything until a deal is done..


  260. 268 Gil in Mechanicsville July 23, 2008 at 4:05 pm

    The wife wanted me to buy a couple of horses but I reminded her they eat a lot more than the dog and my riding days are long over…. My four wheeler dang near beats me to death now…


  261. 269 lew614 July 23, 2008 at 4:17 pm

    Of course Berigan has to put his two cents in a conversation that had nothing whatsoever to do with him, much less the point no one was able to see to begin with. That’s all right. With inflation, his two cents aren’t worth all that much anyway. Whatever. Later.


  262. 270 Carolina Lady July 23, 2008 at 4:25 pm

    Lew, Berigan has the same right as any of us who participate in this blog: join in any topic/conversation.

    We recognize that your opinions are valid while ours are suspect, but we still have the right to express them.


  263. 271 lew614 July 23, 2008 at 4:28 pm



  264. 272 Voice of Raisins July 23, 2008 at 4:48 pm



  265. 273 Voice of Raisins July 23, 2008 at 4:51 pm

    And now, baseball.

    Ber, if you’re going to trade Tex and Ohman, you are for all practical purposes, punting. So, by that logic, you trade away your soon to be FA’s who have value. Kotsay certainly falls into that category. And, as Gil said, you give the open OF spot to Anderson or Schaefer for seasoning. You know… salt, pepper, garlic…


  266. 275 Voice of Raisins July 23, 2008 at 5:16 pm

    So… that’s what the lint filter is like… ๐Ÿ˜


  267. 276 Savannah Guy July 23, 2008 at 5:35 pm

    Whoa, I’m used to seeing Lew and some of us other boys be grumpy on occasion, but to see CL put her hands on her hips and purse her lips like that is, well, kinda cute if you ask me. A blog first too. FBG was pretty feisty today too. You go girls.

    Uh, I will not say anything controversial on the blog on this fine day. Wouldn’t touch that with a ten foot pole… or a six foot Pole, like Klobber. :mrgreen:

    Time for a joke. Why did the belt get arrested?


  268. 277 Voice of Raisins July 23, 2008 at 5:37 pm

    Hold up?


  269. 278 Savannah Guy July 23, 2008 at 5:42 pm

    Held up some pants. ๐Ÿ˜€

    Corny yes…


  270. 279 Savannah Guy July 23, 2008 at 5:45 pm

    Speaking of corn, I thought that retooled old joke I posted a few days ago would get Pappy all riled up and get him to respond in kind, but still no sign of hide nor hair. Then again, I wouldn’t expect to see much hair… just a whole lotta hide. :mrgreen:


  271. 280 Voice of Raisins July 23, 2008 at 5:57 pm

    Gotta go…

    Hasta yo mama! ๐Ÿ˜€


  272. 281 Savannah Guy July 23, 2008 at 5:59 pm

    Now, baseball: I love autumn. It gives me a chance to sit at home and watch the world series.

    Kind’a like the Braves.


  273. 282 Carolina Lady July 23, 2008 at 6:22 pm

    Berigan, the ones I was referring to are those (mostly) from NY, NJ, CT (the worst) and MA. They’re working very hard to turn this area into exactly what they left. And, as they are succeeding, they are becoming more and more unhappy with it. “The taxes keep going up.” “The traffic is bad.” Well, duh!
    (I want to tell them we didn’t have any of that until they got here!) ๐Ÿ˜†

    All we’ve heard is “Well, up north, we….” Somebody even made some bumper stickers that said “We don’t care how you did it up north!” ๐Ÿ˜†

    And they complain. About everything. Because it isn’t like it is “up north.” We’ll be happy to show them where I40 starts; it’ll take ’em right back home. At least stop sneering. It’s not good manners! ๐Ÿ˜€

    Otherwise – the point of my other post is that we ALL have equal rights here and all are welcome to join in and do not need anyone’s permission.

    What if Somebody didn’t like Example A and didn’t want ExA to post except in limited, restricted circumstances? And what if Somebody Else didn’t like Example B and didn’t want ExB to post except in limited and restricted circumstances? Now, what if Example C doesn’t like Somebody and Somebody can’t post except in limited and restricted circumstances??? Or maybe Example D doesn’t like Somebody Else?

    See what I mean? Who would ever post??? Dear lord! If you don’t like somebody, just ignore them! But nobody needs anyone else’s permission to participate on this blog. ๐Ÿ™‚

    Recess will be over shortly. ๐Ÿ˜†


  274. 283 Carolina Lady July 23, 2008 at 6:23 pm

    Raisins, sorry! Filter now cleared!


  275. 284 Gil in Mechanicsville July 23, 2008 at 6:35 pm

    When Worlds Collide…. We have a line of T-storms moving up from the south and a cold front with T-storms moving in from the west… Guess where they are expected to merge?? Yep, the Center of the Universe and likely my opportunity to watch the Braves will be washed out as DirecTV hates rain.

    I know, it seems pretty petty but I could not think of anything else to complain about. 8)


  276. 285 Carolina Lady July 23, 2008 at 6:55 pm

    Batten down the hatches, Gil! Keep us posted!


  277. 286 Carolina Lady July 23, 2008 at 6:59 pm

    Hampton says he’s ready and expects to be activated this weekend???

    Taking any odds?

    I hope he successfully comes back and lights up the league.


  278. 287 Carolina Lady July 23, 2008 at 7:07 pm

    Jeff Porter served as the NL trainer at the All-Star game? Didn’t know that.
    Good for him! He deserves the recognition.


  279. 288 Savannah Guy July 23, 2008 at 7:30 pm

    So, lemme see if I got this… does that mean Example E can just do anything as long as he or she isn’t doing it to Examples A, B, C and D, but if D and B hook up and A and B don’t like it they get all messed up like alphabet soup and all? ๐Ÿ˜†

    Whether bought by Yanks, midwesterners, Westerners or Eskimos, the property value has gotten so high around here now that if it weren’t for those pesky sand gnats we couldn’t afford to live here.


  280. 289 Savannah Guy July 23, 2008 at 7:32 pm

    Do they have one of those Travolta-like bubbles for Hampton? Maybe just roll him out on the field.


  281. 290 Gil in Mechanicsville July 23, 2008 at 7:55 pm

    Wow.. That was some rain…

    Higher taxes at the local level, just another example of the politicos not able to live within a budget and overspending and expecting us poor smucks to bail them out.

    The assessment on my place has doubled in three years. All I did was clear the weeds and paint the place…


  282. 291 Savannah Guy July 23, 2008 at 8:09 pm

    Gil, if you lost TV in the rain, it’s 3 zip, good guys. 2 out, runner on third, 2 out.


  283. 292 Savannah Guy July 23, 2008 at 8:17 pm

    Blanco comes through in the clutch. Yunel bangs one deep off the center field scoreboard… a double and another run. Chipper grounds out… and pulled a hamstring running to first. Dammit. 5 zip but not good with that.

    Umps are up to their bs again.


  284. 293 Savannah Guy July 23, 2008 at 8:19 pm

    Prado replaces Chipper at third. Yikes.


  285. 294 Carolina Lady July 23, 2008 at 8:25 pm

    Bobby’s in the dugout with a mitt on? Pinch hitter??? ๐Ÿ˜ฏ


  286. 295 Gil in Mechanicsville July 23, 2008 at 8:27 pm

    Chipper pulling that hammy looks bad… Talk about a team being snake bit.


  287. 296 Gil in Mechanicsville July 23, 2008 at 8:29 pm

    Sigh.. yes, back to watching… I will go pick up all the strangled frogs in the morning..


  288. 297 Carolina Lady July 23, 2008 at 8:47 pm

    This from Mark Bowman:
    Braves manager Bobby Cox hasn’t made a definite decision, but based on the way Hampton threw during Tuesday’s bullpen session at Dolphin Stadium, Cox is seriously thinking about starting the oft-injured pitcher for Saturday afternoon’s game against the Phillies at Citizens Bank Park.

    “I think he can pitch right now,” Cox said. “We’ll see.”

    Against the Phillies.


  289. 298 Gil in Mechanicsville July 23, 2008 at 8:50 pm

    Why not? No pressure, not like he is going to get booed… Well, maybe so, let’s hope so.. ๐Ÿ™‚ After all, it’s Philly… Hampton is a ground ball pitcher..


  290. 299 Savannah Guy July 23, 2008 at 8:53 pm

    After two years out… in against the Phillies on his first outing.



  291. 300 Carolina Lady July 23, 2008 at 9:03 pm

    And Bluto taps a weak little grounder to SS. 3rd out.


  292. 301 Carolina Lady July 23, 2008 at 9:06 pm

    I say Hampton goes 4 innings max.

    And Hudson’s elbow is squawking? Chipper’s hammy. Maybe Cox was testing out that glove for good reason.


  293. 302 Carolina Lady July 23, 2008 at 9:12 pm

    Y’all have a good night! Calling it a night. zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz


  294. 303 Gil in Mechanicsville July 23, 2008 at 9:28 pm

    They always say the legs are the first thing to go with third basemen, Huddy with tightness in his right elbow. Jeff Porter must think he is running a MASH unit…


  295. 304 Gil in Mechanicsville July 23, 2008 at 9:31 pm

    Hey, I’m going to rooting like all get out for Hampton.. As strange as this season has been, he might have a stellar second half. Hey, Karma has to swing back sometime…


  296. 305 flbravesgirl July 24, 2008 at 12:21 am

    Good evening y’all. Looks like I missed everybody. Nice to win but…yikes. Even the Marlins broadcasters were sympathetic towards the Braves’ injury situation.


  297. 306 morpheus45 July 24, 2008 at 4:13 am

    Morning, all! Looks like I missed a bit of a to-do. After talking to FBG and Lew privately and looking back over the comments, it would appear to me that they’re both right. I went to Disney this last Spring for the first time and I found it amazing. It’s a part of Americana that should be visited at least once, and if you had kids it would be a shame to deprive them of the experience. However, I also bought an expensive bottle opener at the gift shop that broke the first time I tried to use it and didn’t even get the bottle open. The air conditioner in the hotel is set to not be able to go down below a certain temperature, which is not a comfortable temperature. I also found it disturbing that the TV’s in the room show nothing but Disney channels. Apparently Motel 6 can afford to let you be comfortable enough not to sweat and watch whatever the hell you want to on TV but Disney doesn’t make enough to return the favor. I mean, how much money do you really need? As a corporation (beyond Disney World) they’ve proven themselves to be horribly greedy and far too powerful time and time again by their actions; they have much too much power for their own good. I think any Corporation that wields that much clout, makes that much money and causes that much damage to the surrounding environment ought to have to set up some foundations to build up the surrounding communities and infastructure, kind of like how chemical companies have to donate huge sums to wildlife preservation. Disney ought to be repaving I-4 at the very least.

    HOWEVER, that doesn’t mean that just because they’re evil doesn’t mean people ought not visit there and see what’s going on. The Boardwalk is still pretty even if it was built by greedy people. It’s a fascinating place, and boycotting it out of principle hurts yourself more than it makes an impact on them. If another person never went through their turnstiles, the top 500 people in the company could each go buy their own island today if they wished.

    This is a job for government intervention, be it state or federal.

    And y’all, Lew can come across as self-important and crotchety, but…well he IS self-important and crotchety. However, he has a good heart and really does mean well when he rants; it just doesn’t always come off that way. And he’s often right, even if he barks some shins on the way to illustrating it. I don’t think he meant to imply you were idiots for going, but rather was trying to bring to light that the Disney brain trust belongs in Dante’s inferno, which they do. Not that it isn’t delightful to see the wonder on a child’s face as a lifelong memory is created. Two different things.


  298. 307 Gil in Mechanicsville July 24, 2008 at 5:12 am

    Grinch, I do not think CL objected to Lew’s discourse on the topic of corporate greed etc. I think it is when he stepped over the line and attacked Berigan that she took offense. We are all adults here and can handle a few “and idiots” thrown our way but sometimes the air becomes a bit heavy when all that tension is levied.

    Now baseball…. Wow, are the Braves hurting or what? (sarcasm alert)


  299. 308 Berigan 3, part 3, in 3-D July 24, 2008 at 7:14 am

    Sure, I don’t hit refresh for a few hours, then people post! ๐Ÿ˜ก

    I have to admit, I have really found myself bored with the braves right now. Plus, when they play teams like the Marlins where you can hear dozens of Marlin fans(Every time I hear they had a crowd of 14,000 I think, who are they kidding?) yelling insults to Chipper….it’s just…boring!

    I am feeling conflicted….I am glad to see them get more than one hit, and win a game…but, what’s the point???
    I feel bit like a Benedict Arnold hoping they fall back far enough that they will finally give up and trade away, but it’s what we all know is in the best interest of the club, long term.

    I have thought about it, and I guess everyone was right to say we should trade away Kotsay….right IF we get something for him more than a middling prospect at least….I know he’s been injured, it’s just that when I first heard mention of it, it reminded me of the fact the team has been so cheap for years, and now with the A’s not paying the bulk of his salary, we can’t afford him…..He plays great defense,(better than Blanco in CF) and he just seems like someone we should have. If he leaves, we have 2 OF positions with no real full time player to plug in. I mean, Blanco is scrappy, seems like a smart guy, can actually get bunts down…but, even after a big night last night, he’s hitting .267. Should he really be playing full time???

    Frenchy, after another sterling night at the plate (1-5 in case y’all didn’t know) is hitting .231 and has a whole 9 homers for the year. We can all hope he rebounds next year, but right now, if we trade Kotsay, we might need a whole new outfield come 2009!

    I know, I sound like I don’t really agree with it. I understand trading him…just worry what the outfield will look like next year…or in a few weeks!

    Oh, and why didn’t we keep sticking Brandon Jones out there night after night???? Do the Braves really think he’s a blue chip prospect, and didn’t want to ruin his trade value???? To me, he’s most valuable to us, and “we” should see if he can play up here. He hit .278 in 54 AB’s then sent down. I know he had cooled off, but what can you really tell in 54 AB’s????

    Now Chipper is hurt, but we won’t DL him most likely, so we will go into Philly with 24 players. And instead of Someone like B. Jones on the Bench, we have Norton(who has had big hits, but is only hitting .209) Gotay (.208 for the year, and 8 AB’s for the month of July) and Prado. Bet the Phillies are shakin’ in their boots with us coming to town! ๐Ÿ˜›


  300. 309 Carolina Lady July 24, 2008 at 9:26 am

    Grinch, Gil is 100% correct. I couldn’t care less about a Disney controversy. I do care about other bloggers being hit. 2 rules: keep it clean and no attacks.


  301. 310 flbravesgirl July 24, 2008 at 9:54 am

    Good morning y’all. Forget about yesterday; different personal viewpoints. I hope Lew reconsiders his decision to leave. (However I am strongly tempted to get him a Grumpy t-shirt next time I’m at Disney. ๐Ÿ˜‰ )

    I will likely not be online much the next few days. Mom has a convention over towards Orlando, in a snazzy hotel & Melissa & I are going to take advantage of the nice room & fabulous pool.


  302. 311 flbravesgirl July 24, 2008 at 9:59 am

    I believe Disney does maintain the stretch of I4 that goes through their property, Grinch.


  303. 312 lew614 July 24, 2008 at 10:23 am

    Since it is painfully obvious that I can not keep the rules (and yes, I intentionally nailed that worm Berigan, who was the reason I left initially and never took the opportunity to remedy THAT situation when given the chance), I guess y”all don’t need my presence. I never called anyone’s character into question with the Disney thing, but not a single one of y’all could see beyond the tips of your noses and decided I must be chastised after overreaction was practiced (as usual) and undue umbrage taken. Whatever. It’s been fun-well, no, maybe it hasn’t. Blame it all on me or the Yankees. We’re probably both to blame for all the world’s ills. If it wasn’t the gays or the Democrats, that is.


  304. 313 Voice of Raisins July 24, 2008 at 10:30 am

    G’morning all!

    Ber, our outfield situation is not as dire as it appears on the surface. I agree that Kotsay is a nice piece to have, but he does have trade value, especially to a contender. BJones and Blanco are both 4th outfielders at best. September will be a time for Schaefer to show whether or not he can be counted on to prowl CF for the next few years. Actually, depending on Kotsay’s continued presence on the Braves, Schaefer may get to play earlier. Don’t forget that Diaz will return from the DL soon, and will hopefully remember how to hit. And let’s not forget Anderson, who is at least on a level with BJones and Blanco, if not a gnat-hair above.

    Now, I’m going to step out on a limb here. For all the Francoeur talk, of which I have fully participated, the kid is still a kid and has a TON of talent. There is no way, in my very humble opinion, his career stalls at this point of development. I think what we saw over the past 2 years is what you get with him. He’ll be a steady .285 BA, 25-30 HR, 100+ RBI kinda guy that won’t start any All-Star games, but’ll give steady production. I think he’s proven this year that with all of the crap he’s been under, he still loves to play the game and wants very badly to contribute. He has the talent of J.D. Drew and Adam Dunn, but he combines that with the desire to play, excel and win. He will. I’ll bet on it.

    Further, Jason Heyward is probably no later than a 2010 arrival. No offense Gil, but if he’s in Gwinnett next year, I’ll see him plenty.

    ( I know, I’m approaching SG-like length here, but I’ve gotta alot to say before I attempt to get some work done. )

    Now, as to the offseason, the Braves will have some cash to spend this year, and I expect Frank to use it. I think he’ll probably look for one more veteran pitcher, but he’ll go hard after a right-handed power-hitting LF – count on it. To me, the intriguing question surrounds 1B. Is there any consideration in the organization to shift McCann to 1B? It could explain why they have been so careful in Sammons’ ‘development.

    OK, I know I rambled, and I probably forgot to say a few things I was thinking, but I’m only on my 2nd cup of coffee… ๐Ÿ˜€


  305. 314 morpheus45 July 24, 2008 at 10:33 am

    Make sure it’s a 3X, FBG. ๐Ÿ™‚


  306. 315 morpheus45 July 24, 2008 at 10:46 am

    Francouer does indeed have JD Drew’s talent, but he also has Jeremy Shockey’s personality. I wouldn’t be surprised if he starts referring to himself in the third person. IMO, he shouldn’t let the door hit him in the tushy on the way out. I watched them all in Spring Training, and Anderson, Schaeffer and Blanco would make a stellar defensive outfield, with a trio of guys who could all wreak havoc when they get on base. Blanco could be replaced next year with a power hitting LF. The idea of moving McCann to first is solid; Flowers and Sammons both also looked outstanding at ST. They both have rifle arms and good power. If we can’t get Kotchman for Tex, that’s the next best move. That only leaves the aforementioned LF and a mid-rotation veteran starter (Jo-Jo and Chucky belong in AAA) and we’ve got ourselves a pretty danged good team (and Tex, Ohman, and Kotsay ought to net us at least one of those two).


  307. 316 Voice of Raisins July 24, 2008 at 11:13 am

    Tex, Ohman, and Kotsay ought to net us at least one of those two

    Totally agree there… And don’t forget free agency. This may be the first year in while that the Braves will be players in the FA market. With Huddy only signed through next year, could they go after a top of the rotation guy like Sabathia or Sheets? Or will they seek to extend Huddy? So many questions, and it’s only July… ๐Ÿ˜


  308. 317 Voice of Raisins July 24, 2008 at 11:40 am

    Personally, I wish they would make a hard run at Sheets in FA and extend Huddy. They also need to resign Campillo. The more I see him pitch, the more I’m convinced that this season is no fluke. With those 3 plus JJ, and healthy competition between JoJo, Charlie and Chuckie for the 5th spot, and I think you have a heckuva rotation. And any contribution you might get from Smoltz is pure gravy.

    It is a sad thing that I am talking ’09 so early in ’08… ๐Ÿ˜ฆ


  309. 318 Voice of Raisins July 24, 2008 at 11:41 am

    OK, gotta work.



  310. 319 Gil in Mechanicsville July 24, 2008 at 12:15 pm

    Well…. The Braves can still keep this season entertaining. Sometimes you can have all the pieces you need and not know how to fit them together, or you can have duplicates or even some that just don’t go with what you have.

    I can think of so many Delta commercials that Francoeur could do that would just be hilarious, unfortunately, they would not be what Delta is trying to convey but might epitomize their recent performance.

    So, what would we really like to see, guys like Diaz, Harris or Chucky T overachieve or guys like Frenchy and Tex fail to come through in the clutch?

    My wife was right when she evaluate BMac and Frenchy when they first came up and she said McCann would be the better player. As usual, she was right again…

    Yes, play Mac at first, let him bat everyday, Sammons is a better defensive guy. Anyone else notice that other teams love to run on the Braves? I love McCann but I think he would be more valuable to the Braves as a first baseman.

    Like many catastrophic events, this season has not had one single thing which could be pointed to as the cause of collapse. So many moving parts have complicated the matrix. The Braves will get better, I just hope the fine folks of Atlanta are patient enough to see it through.


  311. 320 Gil in Mechanicsville July 24, 2008 at 12:42 pm

    Blanco is a pretty nice little player. No, he is not the second coming of Brett Butler but still, he has been a plus guy this year. Yes, he has made some mistakes but I am sure he has learned from every one of them. I have not seen any repeated errors made on his part.

    Now, two guys who really need to step up. Kelly Johnson and Jeff Francoeur. If those two guys could just get it going on offense the Braves could rattle off a pretty nice win streak. Looking for goats this season? Check out these two guys with runners in scoring position.

    I will give Escobar a pass as he had held up his end with either offense or defense while playing hurt. Kelly cannot be a defensive liability if he is not atoning his sins with his bat. Same goes for Frenchy…

    Now, I will stop picking on Jeff because I think he is developing Brad Kominsk syndrome… Time for him to clear his head and carry this team for a while.


  312. 321 Savannah Guy July 24, 2008 at 12:46 pm

    I know, Iโ€™m approaching SG-like length here

    Raisins, now yer makin’ me self conscious about writin’ more than a howdy do. And for that matter, your post was nowhere near the length of mine. At the end of yours I’d just be gettin’ warmed up and such. ๐Ÿ˜€

    Now, I won’t take that bet you offered about whether French has a great career or not, but I think I’d win the bet. First, I wouldn’t bet against any Braves player… wouldn’t be right, because they’re my team. That said, I don’t think he will excel because I don’t think he has the self awareness or athletic longevity or capability to become what we’d consider an above average player.

    I’ll hope I’m wrong and that you’re right about him. I just don’t see it.

    Gil, I can’t disagree with the idea of Mac at first. Last year I didn’t think that was a very good idea at all, even with Saltalammachia behind the plate before Tex got here. Now, considering all… it seems like a pretty fair idea for next year and with a Sammons or someone better, I think it’s viable option. McCann has never struck me as a great defensive guy, even though he’s shown improvement.

    Then again, if his defensive skills are not that good, is he our best option for the base that gets the most action and some scorching grounders and one-hoppers? Is he the big bopper that we could get on first base? I’m not so sure about that one, but I think not. The options get pretty complex to be sure. Either way, he’s a keeper.


  313. 322 Gil in Mechanicsville July 24, 2008 at 1:17 pm

    Just an option SG, just an option… The more choices you have, the better the odds of a good outcome. Does not mean you are assure of a good outcome, just increases your chances of being successful.

    Now the Frenchman… As long as he is willing to swing at balls out of the strike zone, major league pitchers will be content with exploiting those tendencies. Even when he actually makes contact, his chances of getting good wood on the ball is slim. He is constantly trying to hit a pitcher’s pitch.

    Didn’t we see this same thing happening with Andruw last year? I only hope someone can get Jeff straightened out or he may be playing the balance of his career in front of his hometown fans in Gwinnett….. Of course he would improve the gate in that venue…


  314. 323 Voice of Raisins July 24, 2008 at 1:38 pm

    Now, two guys who really need to step up. Kelly Johnson and Jeff Francoeur.

    I could not possibly agree more. There are 2 guys with a ton of offensive potential, but who can’t seem to get it going. Where would the Braves be in the standings if both of them had simply hit for decent average? Average plus power? Alot of those 1 run games would have gone the other way. And as nice as Tex has come on, how many of those hits and HR’s came in the clutch? He has to take his share of the blame as well.

    While I deem it a near impossible task to make up 7 games behind 3 teams, the rest of this season has the potential to be very entertaining. I’d like to see Schaefer, Anderson and the like get playing time. And I agree, too, that Blanco has had his moments – last night at the top of the list. If he could do that consistently, I’d forego the power in LF and be happy with the game Blanco brings.

    OK, gotta go and take my son to the RaceTrac for a slushie. I promised an hour ago. C-ya!


  315. 324 Carolina Lady July 24, 2008 at 3:06 pm

    A day in the life……

    Made a trip to Wal*Mart for another month’s supplies and some groceries this morning. Pull out of the parking lot a little after 12 which will give me plenty of time to get home before Mother’s aide leaves at 12:30.

    Pull out onto a 9-lane highway to start home. What??? The ‘Check Engine’ light comes on. Running a little rough –

    Lord, there’s a solid line of traffic on both sides of me, and front and back.

    Now there’s white SMOKE beginning to come out from under the hood!!!!!

    NOBODY will give way so I can get off the road! More smoke!! Engine raggedly running and the temp gauge is sitting on the red H.

    Finally I just turn the wheel and MAKE them stop. I turned off of the main road onto a smaller 5 lane road with the thought of making it to the Best Buy parking lot.

    No go. Traffic at a standstill. I finally just pulled into the center turn lane, shut off the engine and told Kelly to get out! By now smoke is POURING from under the hood and from underneath.

    Did even ONE person stop? No.

    I got Kelly to the side of the road and called 911. Here comes a firetruck. Even the firetruck had trouble getting through the traffic.

    They determined that there was no fire but they put the kitty litter stuff on the pavement to soak up all the coolant and antifreeze that USED to be in my car.

    They stopped traffic long enough to push my car into the parking lot and stayed with me until I made contact with AAA and called a friend to come take Kelly home so Mother wouldn’t be alone after the aide left.

    It is very hot in a huge parking lot in July. Just FYI. Don’t recommend it!

    Friend arrives and takes Kelly home, the tow truck eventually shows up and it’s off to the dealership.

    Will get to it either late this afternoon (right!) or in the morning. Friday morning. Called Enterprise, rented a car. Transferred ALL that stuff from my car’s trunk to the rental. Home, unload everything and put it away. A glass of tea – and a few moment’s peace and quiet.

    sigh…. ๐Ÿ˜ฆ


  316. 325 morpheus45 July 24, 2008 at 3:06 pm

    Just heard on the radio Chipper’s gonna be out at least a week with that hammy. As great a player as he is, I wonder if the fact that he’s apparently never stretched a day in his life might be considered when bringing up the HOF.


  317. 326 morpheus45 July 24, 2008 at 3:11 pm

    Poor CL. I tried to tell you to get a Toyota or Honda. I love my Monte Carlo more than I do most of my family but if I absolutely have to get where I’m going I slide over it to the Acura without a second thought. My Honda Civic I had right before it had 293,000 miles on it and was still running like a top ’till I got drunk and ran it into a tree. It’d still be going now.


  318. 327 Gil in Mechanicsville July 24, 2008 at 3:12 pm

    CL… Just goes to show you that a bad day can get worse…


  319. 328 Gil in Mechanicsville July 24, 2008 at 3:16 pm

    I love all my cars Grinch… That’s my problem, I never want to get rid of one. Of course, once they are paid for, I would just as soon use them as lawn ornaments than give them away to someone who not appreciate them.


  320. 329 Carolina Lady July 24, 2008 at 3:26 pm

    Grinch, I had Toyotas (and loved them!) until the dealership/maintenance got so shoddy it became intolerable. They changed hands so many times I couldn’t even keep up with the name of it! So the next car was this Mercury Sable that I LOVE. Best road car I’ve ever seen. Incredibly comfortable, 35+ mpg highway, 25+ in town.

    Don’t know if this today was the water pump, a hose or what. By the time the firetruck got there, I was shaking like a leaf! Mercy!! I’m just thankful that Mother wasn’t with us!


  321. 330 Berigan 3, part 3, in 3-D July 24, 2008 at 3:48 pm

    CL!!!! That sucks! ๐Ÿ˜ฆ Hopefully, it’s just a water pump, a hose, or the radiator….some of them are plastic these days, which means not being about to rebuild them….you can re-core older ones!


  322. 331 Salty July 24, 2008 at 3:50 pm

    …and was still running like a top โ€™till I got drunk and ran it into a tree.

    And that’s the very reason trees should not be planted in the middle of the road! Of course, if you hadn’t been drinking, you probably could have swerved! Still…! :mrgreen:

    Thus concludes today’s lesson in Twisted Logic! ๐Ÿ˜†


  323. 332 Salty July 24, 2008 at 3:56 pm

    Yeah, Grinch…how appropriate, as he steps to the podium to accept his bust, his hammy goes bust…recognition imitating career!


  324. 333 Carolina Lady July 24, 2008 at 3:59 pm

    Just heard from the dealership. Fan motor burned out which caused the basic problem. Some other stuff I don’t have a clue about. $917 and some change. ๐Ÿ˜ฅ

    Brother, can you spare a dime??


  325. 334 Berigan 3, part 3, in 3-D July 24, 2008 at 4:02 pm

    lew614 Says:
    July 24, 2008 at 10:23 am

    Since it is painfully obvious that I can not keep the rules (and yes, I intentionally nailed that worm Berigan, who was the reason I left initially and never took the opportunity to remedy THAT situation when given the chance)

    Ah, well this worm will respond now though…..Lew, if you bother to check back again….I went out of my way to be nice to you when you came back here, even after you talked about your “righteous indignation” you felt after leaving the first time, (On your own, no one asked you to leave) telling you about Manuka honey, wishing you well with your surgery….and where did it get me???? You bashed me as some brainless twit that didn’t know the first thing about baseball…even though I was parroting what others had said many times here…I’m sure it never occurred to you that you were insulting everyone else that held those views, you just HAD to get some licks in on that worm Berigan….

    Gee, what was the dastardly deed that caused your “righteous indignation” towards me???? Oh that’s right, Paladin made a joke about Bobby’s favorite thing to do in the dugout, and instead of ignoring it, you had to stomp all over him, and start a fight…. since CL and Gil weren’t around, I told you two to stop it, and you said to stay out of it..and I said no…..oh horrors! ๐Ÿ˜ฏ

    Then, offline I gave you a good reason, a DAMN good reason why you should think twice before getting in long winded fights here….and instead of saying, you are right berigan, it’s not worth it….instead, as always, you had to think about YOUR feelings, your concerns and nothing else…and left….

    You strike me as the kind of guy who took your football away from the other kids in the neighborhood if they weren’t letting you get your way…and you have never grown up……worm out….


  326. 335 Berigan, the WORM!!!!!! July 24, 2008 at 4:06 pm

    CL, dealerships suck too! ๐Ÿ˜ก Man, that’s a lot, IMHO….but, what can you do???


  327. 336 morpheus45 July 24, 2008 at 4:08 pm

    I hear ya, Gil; that Civic’s still down in the back yard of my old house in south Ga. I had seven vehicles in the yard here as recently as a year ago; I gave three to the same friend and sold one to my Mom’s boyfriend. I’m down to the two aforementioned cars and an ’82 Chevy p/u. The one I sold, CL, was a ’95 Taurus which is the same thing as a Sable. Good car.


  328. 337 Berigan, the WORM!!!!!! July 24, 2008 at 4:09 pm

    from mlb trade rumors, via Starks…

    If the Braves have a bad weekend and decide to trade Mark Teixeira, a deal could come together quickly. Stark says the Braves have already touched base with the Rays, Red Sox, Dodgers, Angels and Yankees. Where Tex fits on the Rays, I’m not sure. Additionally, interest in Will Ohman is said to be “massive.”

    Massive interest in Ohman? Good!


  329. 338 Berigan, the WORM!!!!!! July 24, 2008 at 4:12 pm

    Also down the page…
    The Rangers are looking for a young pitcher for Hank Blalock, who is drawing interest from the Twins, Giants, and Dodgers.

    Hmmm, would they like Jo-Jo or Chucky???


  330. 339 morpheus45 July 24, 2008 at 4:13 pm

    CL, unless it’s the fan motor, fan clutch, fan belt, fan pulley, water pump AND radiator (and attendant hoses), you need to be going to a different mechanic. That’s only $700 less than what I sold my Taurus for, which had 72,000 original miles, new tires and cold a/c.


  331. 340 morpheus45 July 24, 2008 at 4:15 pm

    Salty, to be fair the tree was in the middle of a curve, but they should have made the curve sign bigger and brighter. ๐Ÿ™‚


  332. 341 Berigan, the WORM!!!!!! July 24, 2008 at 4:16 pm

    I see Easy-E has finally shown up! ๐Ÿ˜›


  333. 342 Gil in Mechanicsville July 24, 2008 at 4:18 pm

    CL, I do not know your finances but it may be time to trade… Newer cars with aluminum heads are notoriously high risk after being over heated. The dealer will likely give you the same amount on a trade no matter what shape your car is in as long as it is not body work. They just move the numbers around to make you think you are getting more or less but the bottom line is about the same.

    Berigan, the WORM??? Not a blue werm??? ๐Ÿ™‚


  334. 343 Berigan, the WORM!!!!!! July 24, 2008 at 4:18 pm

    Gee, perhaps I should read all the way down the mlb rumors page, then make one long post! ๐Ÿ˜ณ Well, this is still fairly big, rumor wise…so here it ’tis…

    MLB.com’s Jim Molony has a new column up.

    * The Braves will listen to offers for Jeff Francoeur and Will Ohman, and maybe Mark Teixeira if the Braves struggle in the next week. The Royals are said to be interested in Francoeur.


  335. 344 morpheus45 July 24, 2008 at 4:23 pm

    Because I’m a Gangsta havin’ fun/
    Never leave the pad without packin’ a gun/
    Hittin’ hard as ^&%$, I make you ask what was it/
    Boy you shoulda known by now, Easy does it


  336. 345 morpheus45 July 24, 2008 at 4:26 pm

    Bye Frenchy! Your teammates from Parkview will be sad; but like they told you you should’ve taken that football scholarship from Clemson.


  337. 346 Gil in Mechanicsville July 24, 2008 at 4:26 pm

    Kansas City… the new French(y) Connection?


  338. 347 Carolina Lady July 24, 2008 at 4:26 pm

    I don’t think Francoeur would get over the shock of being traded!


  339. 348 Gil in Mechanicsville July 24, 2008 at 4:27 pm

    Delta.. Ready when you are… ๐Ÿ™‚


  340. 349 Gil in Mechanicsville July 24, 2008 at 4:29 pm

    Hey, could see lots of olds team mates… Kyle Davies, both Pena’s


  341. 351 Berigan, the WORM!!!!!! July 24, 2008 at 4:43 pm

    CL, ๐Ÿ˜† !!!! Man, y’all are cruel! ๐Ÿ™‚

    Speaking of cruel….I just looked at Corky’s numbers. 5 hits in 47 AB’s
    Remember Sal Fasano, who we just gave to Cleveland, since they really needed a catcher??? 6 for 20 this year…of course, he’s only been with them since June 19th, so is 6 hits in a month’s time better than 5 for a season? ๐Ÿ˜›

    I think Charlie Morton praised him as well, saying he helped him with game calling…


  342. 352 Carolina Lady July 24, 2008 at 4:59 pm

    Gil, that $917 seems high to me, too. I know he said the fan motor burned out, but I couldn’t really hear (too much background noise) what the other things were.

    This one isn’t new. Or even ‘newer’! ๐Ÿ˜† She’s 14 and gorgeous, less than 99,000 miles. Engine is about 5 years old, has a new transmission, front end was replaced not too long ago (forgot just when), new brakes, new tires, new CD player (the original had a cassette player). And even though $917 is a fortune to me, it still beats high car payments for 5 years! ๐Ÿ˜€


  343. 353 Gil in Mechanicsville July 24, 2008 at 5:25 pm

    CL .. Well, I see you are into long term commitments. However, just saying…

    Ber… I mentioned some time ago that I thought Fasano was a better option than Corky, I did not realize he had been traded… After all, players come and go so fast here in Richmond that some of them don’t even get a uniform number… ๐Ÿ™‚


  344. 354 Gil in Mechanicsville July 24, 2008 at 6:03 pm

    “The Nationals, and their fans, should remember that the life of a franchise is measured in decades, not in weeks.” Thomas Boswell of The Washington Post..

    Perhaps that should keep things in perspective for us Braves fans…

    “Nationals Park isn’t going anywhere for decades, nor the team in it. Relax. A week of bad baseball news beats 33 years without it.”

    And how I look forward to Richmond having a new mayor who not impede the construction of a new stadium and a new favorite team to root for….


  345. 355 Carolina Lady July 24, 2008 at 6:20 pm

    Thanks for the heads up, Gil. I’ll ask tomorrow which type heads this engine has. All I know for sure about it is that it is 3.8-something 6 cylinder. For the life of me I can’t remember exactly when it was put in. The old one blew a gasket but I got Ford to reimburse me for it ’cause of some sort of recall they had had but didn’t tell anybody. $1500 they paid me. May have been 7 years, 6 years – something like that. Has about 45-50,000 miles on it.


  346. 356 Voice of Raisins July 24, 2008 at 10:40 pm

    Braves general manager Frank Wren says that he hasn’t set a definitive mark that will determine how he reacts before next week’s trade deadline. Getting a feel for his team and those in front of him over the next few days is more important to him than making his decision based on whether his team is three, five or seven games out in the NL East race.

    Obviously Wren wasn’t feeling too good on Wednesday night, when he saw Chipper Jones exit with a strained left hamstring. Jones didn’t seem too optimistic about playing during this weekend’s series in Philadelphia and if he doesn’t, then Wren might want to don his selling shoes.

    If Wren trades Mark Teixeira, the Dodgers and Diamondbacks continue to be the most likely suitors. Both of these NL West teams could provide a good fit for the Braves.

    But Wren said on Wednesday that he doesn’t necessarily need a first baseman in return for Teixeira. In other words he might make a deal with one of these two teams without the need to get either Connor Jackson or James Loney back in return.

    There has been some thought among scouts that a change of scenery could benefit Jeff Francoeur. But at the same time, they’ve admitted that there really isn’t any interest on the trade market for the Braves outfielder.

    Mark Bowman


  347. 357 Carolina Lady July 24, 2008 at 11:13 pm

    Interesting, huh? Can’t wait to see what happens in Philly!


  348. 358 Carolina Lady July 24, 2008 at 11:23 pm

    Ken Rosenthal also has an interesting article on potential Braves trades:

    The Braves, who begin a three-game series in Philadelphia on Friday night, will not concede easily. But the Rockies continue to flirt with contention, reducing their chances of trading left fielder Matt Holliday. Over the next week, the demand for Teixeira might only build, leaving the Braves with the best hitter on the market.


  349. 359 Berigan, the WORM!!!!!! July 25, 2008 at 7:16 am

    Well, with the rumors flying, something has to be in the works, right???? Of course, Gammons and Olney were acting like several teams that normally would be in on him, won’t…..Wish the Angels would lose a few before the 31st…

    If we keep him, and Baltimore signs him….most likely no 1st round pick for us, just a sammich pick! I hope the braves braintrust is aware of this possibility!!!!

    CL, it’s funny, but this blog bogs down now at 350+ posts! Weird!

    Not weird, but cool…the beatles doing Long Tall Sally, live!


  350. 360 Gil in Mechanicsville July 25, 2008 at 7:46 am

    Good morning wermy…. ๐Ÿ™‚

    The trade rumors about Tex are all over the board this morning. Honestly, I think the team that could best use him is the Dodgers.


  351. 361 Gil in Mechanicsville July 25, 2008 at 7:48 am

    Of course as the Braves cruise into Philly, they find they are again playing the second place team…


  352. 362 Gil in Mechanicsville July 25, 2008 at 7:51 am

    Still, the only thing you can do when you are in fourth place is to win your own games and not worry about anyone else. Only thing you can hope for is the guys ahead of you play 500 ball against each other while you sweep… Think that is going to happen? Anyone??


  353. 363 Savannah Guy July 25, 2008 at 8:00 am

    Wren might want to don his selling shoes.

    Golden slippers?

    Gil, we may not see a meltdown of Mets this year or a runaway stretch by the Phils. It may be another season of watching mediocre ball being played in the east, with the Braves playing a little bit worse than mediocre. A should’a, could’a, would’a kind’a season from the get go.


  354. 364 Berigan, the WORM!!!!!! July 25, 2008 at 8:02 am

    Gil, you are right…the Dodgers would be a good choice! They don’t have an RBI guy like him…..I heard a few weeks back in just general Dodger trade rumors that they didn’t really want to take on more salary, that they wanted to shed salary if they took any on…but this would only be for a few months, unless he takes them to the promised land, then they might just want to sign him longterm…you’d think.

    I have heard rumors of them trading Derek Lowe…perhaps to save some money????

    And Gil, the fightin’ Phils are going to live up to their name…they are going to be PO’ed, losing so many games to an inferior team like the Mets….


  355. 365 Berigan, the WORM!!!!!! July 25, 2008 at 8:08 am

    Been checking out some weird and wacky stuff on youtube…. Bing Crosby with the Supremes and Jose Feliciano(sp?) doing medley of 1968 hits….and found this clip of Der Bingo with Bobbi Gentry! Once you get past the too pat intro, they sing pretty well together! Of course, that was one of his many gifts…could sing Pop, Country, Jazz, Hawaiian, you name it! I’d love to hear him sing some Metallica songs! ๐Ÿ‘ฟ


  356. 366 Gil in Mechanicsville July 25, 2008 at 8:44 am

    The only problem I have with listening to Linda Ronstadt (hey the link was there) is I cannot help but picture her with Jerry Brown. I still love the poster of her in the black leather outfit though… ๐Ÿ™‚ Oh, my mis-spent youth… ๐Ÿ™‚


  357. 367 Voice of Raisins July 25, 2008 at 8:46 am

    For Whom The B-B-B-Bell Tolls? ๐Ÿ˜€


  358. 368 Voice of Raisins July 25, 2008 at 8:47 am

    Gil, my buddy had that full sized poster on his bedroom door… good times, good times… ๐Ÿ˜€


  359. 369 Berigan, the WORM!!!!!! July 25, 2008 at 9:00 am

    Gil, gotta forget who she dated!(He’s the mayor of Oakland now, isn’t he???)

    I don’t think I know the poster you guys are talking about…..I don’t know if any poster could top that Carly Simon one! You know, in the Teddy, sideways…. oh my….

    Anyway, back to Linda….I always liked this video for some reason…can you figure out why???? ๐Ÿ˜ณ


  360. 370 Gil in Mechanicsville July 25, 2008 at 9:07 am

    Any question as to the steady decline in morals over the years…?



  361. 371 Carolina Lady July 25, 2008 at 9:15 am

    Let ’em crawl further on down that gutter, Gil. Using profanity and vulgarity is a choice a person makes. Personally, I don’t want to hear it and I sure-as-shootin’ won’t have that sewage coming out of my mouth. IMHO. ๐Ÿ™‚

    Y’all want a new blog? This one slow? Mine is running pretty well – so let me know.


  362. 372 Gil in Mechanicsville July 25, 2008 at 9:18 am

    Hey, what ever suits ya’ll tickles me plum to death… ๐Ÿ™‚


  363. 373 Voice of Raisins July 25, 2008 at 9:33 am

    Ber, I tried to find an image of that poster for ya, but sadly, after spending way too much time searching, I was unsuccessful. WHat is this cyber-world coming to? ๐Ÿ˜ฆ


  364. 374 Voice of Raisins July 25, 2008 at 9:35 am

    I’m getting tired of the Bullwinkle avatar… Any suggestions?

    (I have a feeling I’m gonna regret that question… )


  365. 375 Gil in Mechanicsville July 25, 2008 at 9:47 am

    Uh… Mr Peabody??? ๐Ÿ™‚


  366. 376 Voice of Raisins July 25, 2008 at 10:35 am

    Well… there’s a trip in the wayback machine! ๐Ÿ˜€


  367. 377 Voice of Raisins July 25, 2008 at 10:38 am

    I am too easily amused…


  368. 378 Voice of Raisins July 25, 2008 at 11:05 am

    I didnโ€™t get the sense from conversations today that the Mark Teixeira rumors are grounded in much fact, but then again this was the team that came out of nowhere before last yearโ€™s deadline to make a big run at the slugging first baseman.

    If the discussions involve Conor Jackson, they make no sense to me. Perhaps thatโ€™s a name that might have worked before he became a full-time outfielder, but dealing him now for Teixeira — not even considering the years of control youโ€™d be losing vs. the draft picks youโ€™d collect vs. the mostly negligible bump in production — just creates another hole in the lineup.

    It still sounds like thereโ€™s almost no chance Max Scherzer or Jarrod Parker goes anywhere, so the only name that has enough value to build the deal around — and to where it would make sense for this season for the Diamondbacks — would be Chad Tracy, right?

    Itโ€™s certainly fun to speculate on how much you should pay for two months of Teixeira plus two draft picks (because thereโ€™s no way the Diamondbacks could afford to re-sign him) — and, conversely, if youโ€™re the Braves, how much you can expect to get in return — but, again, from what I could gather, there wasnโ€™t much fire to the Teixeira smoke thatโ€™s out there.

    Nick Piecoro, AZ Central


  369. 379 Voice of Raisins July 25, 2008 at 11:20 am

    Of Terry Pendleton:

    The Braves hit just .227 during a 7-12 stretch through Tuesday, and 21 of the meager 71 runs they scored in that stretch came in two games. They scored one or no runs in seven of the other 17. No one has been more frustrated by the offense’s malaise than hitting coach Terry Pendleton. “When we’re doing like we’re doing, absolutely [it’s frustrating],” said Pendleton, who watched his Braves muster just one hit — a Chipper Jones single — in Tuesday’s 4-0 loss to Florida, and fail to score after loading the bases with no outs on three consecutive walks in the fourth inning. “There’s games where we hit like we’re supposed to hit, and then there’s games where we don’t. There are days, like when I left here [Tuesday] night, where I’ve gone back to the hotel and I was like, ‘What is it? What is it? What can I do differently? What can they do differently? What can I do to assist them in doing differently?’ “I know it’s frustrating for the players, because they’re working so hard,” Pendleton said. “By the same token, we’ve got to find a way to get it done.”

    Uh, get back with us on that one, would ya Terry? Preferably before October… ๐Ÿ™„


  370. 380 Gil in Mechanicsville July 25, 2008 at 12:13 pm

    The thing about coaching is it is really teaching. Just because some of the kids can’t grasp the lesson does not necessarily mean the teacher is bad nor does it mean the kids are poor students, just sometimes they clash.

    Been there and done that folks….

    Sometimes a change of scenery is good for a lot of folks. I don’t think the current manager of the Mets is any better than Willie Randolph was but he happened to be in the right spot at the right time.

    Now, I think the real problem was the tension between Willie and Omar.

    I sense the same thing between Manny Acta and Jim Bowden. Now Acta is a guy I would grab up in a NY minute… Great manager who is having to make do with a substandard product.


  371. 381 Gil in Mechanicsville July 25, 2008 at 12:16 pm

    Now, having said all that, I think Terry Pendelton is a great guy but when your entire line up is not hitting except maybe for Chipper who uses his dad as a hitting coach and McCann who uses his dad…. Hummm, I see a pattern developing here folks. Where is Francoeur’s dad?


  372. 382 Voice of Raisins July 25, 2008 at 12:28 pm

    Maybe Francoeur’s dad is the problem. ๐Ÿ˜€


  373. 383 Gil in Mechanicsville July 25, 2008 at 12:30 pm

    You have a point…


  374. 384 Gil in Mechanicsville July 25, 2008 at 12:31 pm

    But upon further thought… I think the problem is Terry…


  375. 385 Voice of Raisins July 25, 2008 at 2:16 pm

    I hate this time of the season. It’s one week from the trade deadline, and every team’s FOT’s (front office types) have ceased all activity and are sitting idle for the next 3-4 days, trembling in anticipation while waiting everyone else out for the best possible 11th hour deal. Meanwhile, news junkies like us are grasping at any tiny tidbit of information just to keep us semi-sustained through the end of the month. ๐Ÿ˜ก


  376. 386 Gil in Mechanicsville July 25, 2008 at 2:52 pm

    Hey, I’m easy.. At this point I will just settle for a good report from sick bay.


  377. 387 Carolina Lady July 25, 2008 at 2:57 pm

    ๐Ÿ˜† I know what you mean, Raisins! Everybody is writing but they’re all saying mostly the same thing.

    This one from Danny Knobler:

    When the Braves traded for Mark Teixeira last July 31, they were 4ยฝ games out of first place in the National League East, with two teams to pass. Now it’s almost a year later, and Atlanta is 6ยฝ games out of first, with three teams to pass.

    So do the Braves turn around and trade Teixeira, a pending free agent they admit they have almost no chance of re-signing for next year? Or do they keep Teixeira and try to win now?

    Who wouldn’t want Tex? He has 35 homers, 128 RBI as a Brave. (AP)
    Atlanta officials insist that no decision has yet been made, and that as of yet they haven’t offered Teixeira to anyone. They say that their inclination is to go for it, but they also admit that they’ve been making lists of possible Teixeira trading partners.

    Boston is on the list, and so are the Angels and Rays. The Braves still think Arizona could become involved, too — if they put Teixeira on the market.

    So will they? Check back at the end of the week.

    The Braves play three games at Florida (while the Phillies play the Mets). Then the Braves play three games in Philadelphia.

    By the end of the week, maybe the Braves will be back in it. Maybe they’ll be buying (looking for an outfield bat), rather than selling.

    Or maybe they’ll be far enough out of it that they’ll admit what outsiders have already been thinking — that the Braves just aren’t good enough to win this year.

    “When (closer John) Smoltz went down for the year, a malaise seemed to set in on that team,” one scout who closely follows the NL East said Sunday.

    Incidentally, in the 154 games the Braves have played since acquiring Teixeira from Texas, he has 35 home runs and 128 RBI. And in those same 154 games, the Braves have gone 75-79.

    They haven’t looked like a championship club. And they didn’t look like a championship club over the weekend, when they lost two of three at home to the Nationals.

    If they don’t start looking like a championship club soon — i.e. this week — then it’s probably time to send Teixeira on his way.


  378. 388 Carolina Lady July 25, 2008 at 2:58 pm

    Good point, Gil! ๐Ÿ˜†

    Sure am looking forward to seeing if Hampton actually makes it to the mound this week, etc!


  379. 389 Carolina Lady July 25, 2008 at 3:06 pm

    ‘Baby’ is home. Replaced the fan motor and control module.

    The itemized bill is:
    AA relay $202.09
    Fan and motor asy $415.16
    antifreeze $15.95
    fuse $6.51
    labor $216
    shop supplies/haz waste $30.00
    tax $43.18

    $928.89 ๐Ÿ˜ฆ


  380. 390 Gil in Mechanicsville July 25, 2008 at 3:11 pm

    The people who will be happiest to see Mike Hampton return to the mound will not be the Braves but the insurance underwriters who have been footing the bill for Hampton’s salary for the last three years…

    Now this… Goes to show you that some folks just cannot handle money… Ya’ll know the difference between being poor and being broke?

    Being broke is a temporary economic condition, being poor is an acceptance of an entirely different lifestyle.

    Or as Forrest Gump would say… “stupid is what stupid does”



  381. 391 Salty July 25, 2008 at 3:16 pm

    Gil…it’s the ‘giving fish’ versus ‘teaching to fish’. Sad.


  382. 392 Carolina Lady July 25, 2008 at 3:23 pm

    Now this is a brawl! 15 players and both managers ejected.


    DAYTON, Ohio (AP) – A minor league pitcher accused of throwing a ball that hit a fan during a bench-clearing brawl was charged with felonious assault.

    Peoria Chiefs pitcher Julio Castillo was arrested Thursday following the fight with the Single-A Dayton Dragons, authorities said Friday. Umpires ejected 15 players and the team’s managers following the 10-minute brawl.

    Castillo, 21, was scheduled to be arraigned Friday, Montgomery County Jail officials said. Video from the game shows Castillo angrily throwing a ball, but doesn’t show where the ball landed.

    The fan, who remains unidentified, was treated at Miami Valley Hospital and released, said hospital spokeswoman Nancy Thickel. She didn’t know the extent of the fan’s injuries.

    The Dragons are affiliated with the Cincinnati Reds, while the Chiefs are affiliated with the Chicago Cubs.

    Three Peoria batters were hit in Wednesday’s game between the clubs. After a Peoria player was hit in the top of the first on Thursday, Castillo hit two batters in the bottom half โ€” one in the head. The second hit batsmen by Castillo, Angel Cabrerra, made an aggressive slide into second to break up a double play.

    Castillo followed that by throwing his next pitch up-and-in, prompting Dayton manager Donnie Scott to complain to the home plate umpire. Interim Peoria manager Carmelo Martinez โ€” filling in for Ryne Sandberg โ€” came onto the field to join the discussion.

    The two managers began arguing, and when Martinez pushed Scott, the benches emptied.

    The teams protested the ejections by phone to Midwest League president George Spelius, saying they didn’t want pitchers playing in the outfield to complete the game. After an hour delay, the ejections were reversed and the game resumed. Dayton won 6-5.

    Spelius said Friday that he spoke to the umpires about the brawl. He said he needs to read a report, review video footage and talk to team officials before any possible sanctions.

    Chiefs spokesman Nathan Baliva said Spelius will handle the issue.

    “He’ll hand down the appropriate punishments he deems necessary,” Baliva said.

    Reds general manager Walt Jocketty witnessed the fight from the stands. Cincinnati spokesmen Rob Butcher said Friday neither the Reds nor the Dragons would comment.

    Sandberg was in Cooperstown, N.Y., for the weekend’s Hall of Fame induction ceremonies.

    Aaron Brown, a fan seated near home plate, said the fight marked a sad day for baseball.

    “I’ve never seen anything like it before,” Brown said. “You see paramedics running into the stands. Just when you think it ends, there is another group trying to fight.

    “I was really surprised they continued the game.”


  383. 393 Gil in Mechanicsville July 25, 2008 at 3:24 pm

    Best way I know to ruin a child is to give them everything they want. Having to work and sacrifice for something gives one an appreciation for the fruit of their labors.

    Question, why is it always white folks who are doing the volunteer work on “Extreme Makeover”?

    Okay, enough social comment for today… Except this bit of commentary…

    When Obama made his speech yesterday campaigning for the office of President of the World, did anyone of the major news networks happen to mention that the reason for the huge crowds was the free concerts? Really, I don’t mind that the networks are on his campaign staff, I just wish they wouldn’t be so obvious about it…

    Okay, off my soapbox now…


  384. 394 Gil in Mechanicsville July 25, 2008 at 3:27 pm

    Full contact baseball….


  385. 395 Carolina Lady July 25, 2008 at 3:28 pm

    ๐Ÿ˜† Gil, my temporary economic condition is giving me fits right now!

    At least AAA paid for the tow and my taxes paid for the firetruck.

    Gotta be thankful for blessings where you can find them, sometimes! ๐Ÿ˜†


  386. 396 Carolina Lady July 25, 2008 at 3:35 pm

    I agree with every word of your 3:24, Gil!


  387. 397 Gil in Mechanicsville July 25, 2008 at 3:42 pm

    No free lunch CL…. The dealer will make up for both of them…


  388. 398 Carolina Lady July 25, 2008 at 3:44 pm

    CHICAGO — The Chicago Cubs called up right-hander Jeff Samardzija from Triple-A Iowa on Friday after placing closer Kerry Wood on the disabled list with a blister on his right index finger.


    I don’t think I’ve ever known anyone to go on the DL for a blister before.


  389. 399 Carolina Lady July 25, 2008 at 3:45 pm

    No doubt, Gil! ๐Ÿ™‚


  390. 400 Gil in Mechanicsville July 25, 2008 at 3:59 pm

    I doubt they would put him on the DL if he was a starter but as a closer I think the Cubs are fearful of being shorthanded.


  391. 401 Voice of Raisins July 25, 2008 at 4:14 pm

    Could a shorthanded reliever get a good grip on the ball? ๐Ÿ˜€


  392. 402 Voice of Raisins July 25, 2008 at 4:17 pm

    I was just noticing the ol’ B&S banner… of the 7 players shown, 3 are physically suffering and another is mentally/emotionally suffering. Could it be the curse of The Stuff? ๐Ÿ˜ฏ


  393. 403 Carolina Lady July 25, 2008 at 4:22 pm

    No, no, no, Raisins! We don’t got no curses here! ๐Ÿ˜† Just lots of blessings!


  394. 404 Berigan, the WORM!!!!!! July 25, 2008 at 4:22 pm

    CL, Josh Beckett used to have severe problems with blisters….and went on the DL for them. He’s been having problems with it for weeks, if not a month…they just won’t heal.

    Not the biggest fan of sweet Lou the person, but he can make some smart moves as a manager….

    “He’s stretched out,”[right-hander Jeff Samardzija] Piniella said. “We can use him about any way we want, but I think the best way is to get him in the middle of the ballgame and if he’s pitching well, we can get him a little longer.”

    Bobby would stick him in the right in the middle of the bottom of the 9th, with the bases loaded! ๐Ÿ™„

    Garsh(Disney reference!)…it’s been hard to bash Bobby of late, what with the offense being so anemic….I missed it! ๐Ÿ™‚


  395. 405 Berigan, the WORM!!!!!! July 25, 2008 at 4:23 pm

    4, if you consider Hudson hurt!!!! ๐Ÿ˜ฏ


  396. 406 Carolina Lady July 25, 2008 at 4:25 pm

    Yep, everybody pictured on the banner is ailing in some fashion except McCann. Don’t know about the ump. Weird, huh? ๐Ÿ˜€


  397. 407 Carolina Lady July 25, 2008 at 4:28 pm

    That just goes to show how bad it is when about every ‘premiere’ player on the team is down.


  398. 408 Berigan, the WORM!!!!!! July 25, 2008 at 4:36 pm

    Ha! Never noticed it was an Ump CL, I feel ๐Ÿ˜ณ

    Terry Pendleton was a hacker, wasn’t he??? Probably not the best guy to be a hitting coach….for some reason, I could see him being a tougher manager than Bobby….I don’t know….from Gil’s earlier post on Pendleton…

    “There are days, like when I left here [Tuesday] night, where Iโ€™ve gone back to the hotel and I was like, โ€˜What is it? What is it? What can I do differently? What can they do differently? What can I do to assist them in doing differently?โ€™”

    Gosh, I don’t know….have them do what the most successful teams in the game do now, grind out AB’s??? Be very patient???? Watch the Yankees and Red Sox games???

    Suggest they take the ball to the opposite field for at least one AB a night???

    But, what does and idiot worm know??? ๐Ÿ˜›


  399. 409 Savannah Guy July 25, 2008 at 4:52 pm

    Beckett used to have severe problems with blistersโ€ฆ.and went on the DL for them. Heโ€™s been having problems with it for weeks, if not a monthโ€ฆthey just wonโ€™t heal.

    Bear, uh…worm… uh, Berm? All these blister problems could be an after effect from the steroid era. Finger skin, uh, breakdown. Or maybe just not enough pickle juice in the dugout. Glavine should have some extra brine stashed around somewhere.


  400. 410 Berigan, the WORM!!!!!! July 25, 2008 at 4:54 pm

    Johnny Estrada was DFA’ed today…hitting .170 in 53 ab’s….better than Corky, right??? Will we sign him???? I have heard about him being a head case, at least in Milwaukee…..


  401. 411 Gil in Mechanicsville July 25, 2008 at 6:06 pm

    I saw that coming for Johnny, The Nats have Flores ready to play now as well as LoDuca. Plus he has gotten really out of shape… He use to be a clutch guy however, not homeruns mind you but was a real RBI guy…


  402. 412 Gil in Mechanicsville July 25, 2008 at 6:08 pm

    Johnny never really played to the level he did before Erstead made that cheap hit on him. I still think the Braves owe him one in his ear hole…


  403. 413 Savannah Guy July 25, 2008 at 6:10 pm

    Gil you’ve been on a roll. 3:24 spot on.

    The extreme makeover link was pretty incredible. I remember seeing that on TV. They need another extreme makeover… of the ‘living beyond means’ and the ‘borrowing while knowing you can’t pay back’ variety.

    Maybe that’s a new show idea for HGTV, with the mortgage debacle… “The Upside Down and Out”. Or maybe, “When the Flippin’ House Don’t Flip”.


  404. 414 Savannah Guy July 25, 2008 at 6:14 pm

    CL, that was a pretty disgusting fight. I thought the link would show a clip, but after watching it I’m kinda glad they didn’t. Would’a had to watch with hands over the eyes… peeking through of course. Yikes.


  405. 415 Gil in Mechanicsville July 25, 2008 at 6:25 pm

    I don’t know, seemed pretty tame to me as far as baseball fights go. I am sure the fan who was struck by the baseball was not the intended target, just another innocent bystander hit by a stray bullet. Of course if the pitcher had control, he would not have hit the batter to begin with.


  406. 416 Gil in Mechanicsville July 25, 2008 at 6:26 pm

    Lots of Washington football coverage on TV here in Richmond. Plus NASCAR… Not much on baseball…


  407. 417 Gil in Mechanicsville July 25, 2008 at 6:30 pm

    Only 30 minutes to game time. AJC reports Chipper may have to go on the DL… At this point I am not sure it makes a whole lot of difference.

    Like my old coach use to tell us, Don’t worry about the guys you don’t have, make the best of it with the guys you do. The other side has their troubles too. Suck it up and get on with it…


  408. 418 Carolina Lady July 25, 2008 at 6:53 pm

    “Beazer gave them $100,000 cash, paid their mortgage off and they still can’t make it,” said Oswalt. Just unbelievable.


  409. 419 Carolina Lady July 25, 2008 at 7:04 pm

    Martin Clark, a Virginia circuit judge, earned a rising literary reputation with two lively comedies of morals, The Many Aspects of Mobile Home Living (2000) and Plain Heathen Mischief (2004).

    Now those two books could be very entertaining! ๐Ÿ˜†


  410. 420 Savannah Guy July 25, 2008 at 7:14 pm

    I donโ€™t know, seemed pretty tame to me as far as baseball fights go.

    Guess we have different definitions of tame. Maybe the article overplayed it. Or maybe the fan that saw the paramedics running into the stands was not so experienced in teams fighting… just another day at the park in Mechanicsville.

    Uh, pass the peanuts and Cracker Jack… and watch the right hook honey. Hey, another beer over here! Uh, now the paramedic’s in my way. Haven’t they seen blood before? Ho hum… another bench clearing brawl. Let’s get hot dogs.


  411. 421 Carolina Lady July 25, 2008 at 7:16 pm

    Charlie Manuel called a team meeting because he feels the team is not playing with the fire that it has been.

    Hm! Imagine that.



  412. 422 Savannah Guy July 25, 2008 at 7:21 pm

    CL, if you like trailer trash literature, you might also like this.


  413. 423 Carolina Lady July 25, 2008 at 7:57 pm

    Phillie announcers say Hampton is pitching tomorrow night.


  414. 424 Savannah Guy July 25, 2008 at 8:46 pm

    Well alrighty then… I’m out. Have a good weekend.


  415. 425 Carolina Lady July 25, 2008 at 8:48 pm

    You’re gone for the whole weekend? Enjoy!


  416. 426 Carolina Lady July 25, 2008 at 9:40 pm

    6-0 Braves – ALL thanks to Brian McCann!

    This has been a fun game to watch – good Braves defense. Superior job by Jair!


  417. 427 Berigan, the WORM!!!!!! July 25, 2008 at 9:55 pm

    CL, I woke up to watch pitch the 8th(No joke, I Dreamt the braves were down 8-0) and see Jurrjens was clearly pitching the game of his young career and 3 amazing defensive plays in that bottom inning alone! More good ones before, I can safely assume???

    Then, a leadoff double, a beautiful bunt for a hit by Blanco(He should teach it for the whole organization) I forget, a walk by Yunel, a big single by Tex to drive in the 2nd run of the game. Then the big blast….I have to say, I am absolutely shocked to see this from the team right now!!! Pleasantly surprised.


  418. 428 Carolina Lady July 25, 2008 at 9:57 pm

    They have made some really, really excellent plays, Ber! If THIS team had been playing all year, our standing would be much better than it is! Defense has just been great! Can’t say enough about JJ’s start!


  419. 429 Berigan, the WORM!!!!!! July 25, 2008 at 9:58 pm

    Pleasantly shocked, I should have said!!! Braves win, Braves win! I knew it all along!!! ๐Ÿ˜†


  420. 430 Carolina Lady July 25, 2008 at 10:01 pm

    Brian hit a solo homer in the 5th (?) and that was it until he hit the grand slam in the 9th, so he picked up 6 RBIs tonight.


  421. 431 Carolina Lady July 25, 2008 at 10:05 pm

    The blog is bogging down so NEW BLOG IS UP!
    (Berigan, I edited more than 300 words out of it so shorten it up!) ๐Ÿ˜†


  422. 432 Gil in Mechanicsville July 25, 2008 at 10:08 pm

    Plus a stolen base… Red letter night for Brian..

    Even Frenchy was putting good swings on the ball, maybe the “werm” has turned… ๐Ÿ™‚


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