58: Just Wait Til Next Year!!

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by Berigan

My turn again???? Seems like I just wrote one of these…..6  months ago!!! 🙂

Well, it’s getting old saying next year will be a better year in braves land. What’s funny, and great about this game, is you just never know who’s going to win, their division, the wildcard, or the World Series. Well, we know the WS winner will come out of the AL, but other than that, it’s a semi educated guess. Can anyone remember who was picked to be winners this spring??? Detroit was going to be about the best team in  baseball, certainly the best offense in decades. And the Indians were supposed to have 7-8 ML ready starters. So, one of those two teams was surely going to win the AL central, with the other team winning the Wildcard. That’s what the experts, people who live and breathe baseball, have watched the game closely for many moons said.

And we all know the only team that might, just might top the Red Sox in the east was the Yankees. The Rays were at least another year away from competing.

Mariners were likely to win the AL west. Well, they may win the worst record in the west this year, that’s about all…

In the NL west, how many people projected the Giants to be in 3rd place, with 2007 NL pennant winner Colorado in 4th,  and the Padres in last place???

I believe the Cubs were projected to win the central, but who expected the Cardinals in be in the hunt for most of the year? A team most people saw  and predicted, after Spring training, as the worst in their division???

In our own division, who among the experts, or among us, could see the Marlins competing through August????

Which brings us to the Braves. We know most(but not all) the experts predicted us to be a 3rd place team. But, the beat writer and most of us could see this team seriously competing for the flag in ’08.

We started the year with an embarrassment of pitching it seemed. Tons of hard throwers in the bullpen, with Gonzo coming back in  a few months. Seemed like we had 6-7 serious contenders for 5 starting jobs. Frenchy really to move from an excellent right fielder, to one of the best in the game. Diaz finally getting the chance to play every day. Yunel ready to have  break out year, in his first year as a starter. Chipper was back, we had one of the best hitting and fielding 1st baseman for the WHOLE year, Kelly Johnson and McCann just reaching their prime years as well. With Infante, we finally had someone who was a true super sub, no need to cringe if KJ or Chipper had the day off, or even if they went on the DL.

Well, best laid plans and all that. You all know the rest by heart. You just can’t predict injuries. Well, we knew Chipper would miss a few weeks, but that’s about it. Glavine had never gone on the DL. Smoltz would be Smoltz, Hampton would be back soon…losing the closer, and the 8th inning guy??? Hard to win doing that. Yet, our bullpen really wasn’t a big problem for the first 4 months of the season. But, we still didn’t seem to really be in a race.

I know I have been just  a tidge negative about Bobby, and about our chances for next year. But, like I mentioned above, you never know! The Mets may get better, but if they go into next year without a closer, they will still be easy to reel in. The Phils are likely to lose their 2nd biggest bopper. That can’t help. Marlins will have to get rid of anyone making more than 6 figures.

So, IF we can sign a solid starter or two, IF we can sign a power hitting right handed bat, IF Frenchy reverts to the 2006-07 model, IF Chipper can play in 140 + games, IF Soriano can pitch like he did last year, IF Moylan is back to his great self(and he should be) We could, we should be the team to beat!!!!

You heard it here first!!! You’ll see, just wait till next year!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


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519 Responses to “58: Just Wait Til Next Year!!”

  1. 1 Carolina Lady September 16, 2008 at 7:51 pm

    This will surely be an interesting off season! Can’t even imagine what the team will look like next year. THANKS, BERIGAN!! Good job! 😀


  2. 2 Savannah Guy September 16, 2008 at 9:46 pm

    Didn’t even know there was a new blog… nobody called and told me.

    Berigan, good lead. It’s apparent that you are a dyed in the wool Braves fan. You’re right about never really knowing how the chips will fall. Our got cashed in early this year but we got a dime on the dollar value. Such is life in the Bigs.

    Baseball is like a baux of choc-o-lahts…


  3. 3 Carolina Lady September 16, 2008 at 10:51 pm


    next: Gil


  4. 4 Savannah Guy September 16, 2008 at 10:54 pm

    The bad news: Braves lose a nail biter.

    The good news: The Mutts have been knocked out of first place.

    Works for me.


  5. 5 flbravesgirl September 16, 2008 at 11:30 pm

    Evening y’all. Good stuff, Ber. Now we just have to figure out who had the voodoo doll all of this year & get it away from them!


  6. 6 Gil in Mechanicsville September 16, 2008 at 11:43 pm

    Great lead Berigan… Good stuff all..


  7. 7 flbravesgirl September 16, 2008 at 11:44 pm

    Ah, fun with the ol’ laptop. (Do we have an emoticon that denotes sarcasm?) Dang thing ate my post.


  8. 8 flbravesgirl September 16, 2008 at 11:47 pm

    Picking up from the last blog… coffee through the nose sounds really bad.

    Maybe Yost should stick with being a second-in-command. I know Corrales said he never wanted to manage again. Guess some guys aren’t cut out for the job pressure.

    Wellman might be crazy but it seems he’s real good at his job.


  9. 9 flbravesgirl September 16, 2008 at 11:51 pm

    What else? Pete seemed amused that Thurs. is not only $1 hot dog night but also “Choptoberfest”. They’re having a yodeling contest & an oom-pa-pa band. For some reason I was picturing Grinch attending in lederhosen.


  10. 10 Voice of Raisins September 17, 2008 at 12:08 am

    I was picturing Grinch attending in lederhosen.



  11. 11 Voice of Raisins September 17, 2008 at 12:20 am

    Excellent lead, B-dude. I find myself in complete agreement. And I still like Bobby… for one more year…


  12. 12 flbravesgirl September 17, 2008 at 12:41 am

    Well, I don’t know what most of the rest of y’all look like and you know he would do it if the idea struck him funny (or if it’d get him a free beer).


  13. 13 Bob, journalist September 17, 2008 at 3:32 am

    Nice Post Lincoln Man … how’s your father doing?

    I’m seriously and sincerely envious of how well you tied it together … but we must agree to disagree on a couple of points … first, I’m not sure we know the WS winner will come out of the AL, but if it does, I would like it to be Tampa Bay.

    Second, the notion that we “just can’t predict injuries” … those which our players incurred were far more predictible than one might imagine … but those responsible for strategy and risk management would have us otherwise believe.

    I like too, your choice of words, especially “semi educated guess” … being semieducated, I can relate.

    You won’t believe it but I just post something on the Beat blog, a little earlier in the evening. First time to even go there since leaving but needed their help as I do those of you here on Braves & Stuff.

    Here’s pretty much what I told them … though most of you already know …

    Jimmy Smith, sja and I are at the old barbershop … a blog powered by Blogger … http://www.theoldbarbershop.com.

    I’ve just written and published my second post for the site “The Old Barbershop”, and while I designed some web sites back in the day, … I’m only now beginning to realize how much their appearance and performance depend on each person’s operating system, browser, monitor resolution, and plugins … not to mention Internet connection.

    There are so many variations, and with our currently limited audience, it’s virtually impossible for us to identify, and/or anticipate potential problems or discrepancies… even with everyone’s help … and so the intrusion …

    Sorta like the injuries, huh? … only different!

    I would appreciate any and all who might have time and feel so inclined … to visit TheOldBarbershop and look at the two posts … “put them through their paces” and report back any and all problems you might encounter.

    Your feedback is important, even if you experience no problems … for we need to know that too … and regardless, please include your operating system, browser, monitor resolution, and Internet connection information with your comments … if you know that information.

    All of my email addresses are still valid but you can also email me (bob@theoldbarbershop.com) or use the “anonymous” option to submit your input/comments if you so choose.

    And, should you have the time, the shop’s Proprietor (sja), journalist jimmy smith (jjs), along with Columnist Baby Seal and I would enjoy having you stay a few extra minutes … just visit a spell … let us know what how you’re doing, each of you … Mestillthinks we’re all unique, regardless of what Lady Macbeth may have said about the milk of human kindness! …


    That’s what I told them … and that’s what I’m telling you … Thanks for listening, and thanks in advance for your help.


  14. 14 Voice of Raisins September 17, 2008 at 8:00 am

    Hollywood celebrities pony up $9 million for Obama


    It’s no big surprise that a bunch of pampered idols who spend their entire lives in a world of fantasy and make-believe would buy into another fantasy…


  15. 15 Voice of Raisins September 17, 2008 at 8:07 am

    In my humble opinion, it’s a bunch of propped up poodles trying to buy their way into reality…


  16. 16 Berigan ll, the worm turns September 17, 2008 at 8:31 am

    Greetings Sir Bob!!!!

    The WS out of the AL was a bit tongue in cheek, but it sure feels like that most years….I can agree that Smoltz was due with all the shoulder woes of late…but I thought Maddux would have elbow issues before Glavine. Glavine just doesn’t bend his elbow much, no snap like Maddux has….We should have traded for Jamie Moyer instead of the Phils in 2006. He’s made more starts than any brave starter since then….Glavine just wasn’t old enough to take a chance on! 😉

    All kidding aside, the team and their minor league affiliates need to do a better job of conditioning. I saw a photo of Morton on the AJC, and he looked so….puny. So thin…Moylan talked about how he’s really gotten in great shape, since he didn’t have anything else to do while rehabbing the arm…
    Why wasn’t he in great shape in 2007??? Not saying his ligaments still wouldn’t have shredded, but I don’t think Nolan Ryan ever had elbow surgery, and I recall a fellow pitcher saying he hadn’t thrown more pitches than anyone else in the game, he’d thrown twice as many!!!!

    Will check out the other blog later….later, since I am tired….

    And you can always post here once in a blue moon at least! 😛


  17. 17 Berigan ll, the worm turns September 17, 2008 at 8:32 am

    V, if McCain wins this year, stuff like the 100’s of Millions raised to defeat him will be that much sweeter….


  18. 18 Savannah Guy September 17, 2008 at 8:56 am

    Raisins, your “propped up poodle” idea is spot on. Thing is, even a poodle can be trained to sit, stay, roll over, speak and hush. Many actors and singers can’t do anything but beg for attention. Wish they’d just stop yapping, shut up and do their little tricks for us.

    There’s a lot of peer pressure over there at the Hollywood Kennels. If a member of the entertainment community doesn’t go along with the party line and spout the prescribed talking points at least once during a campaign they fall from the A-list. If they dare voice support for conservative values they are blacklisted.

    On the other hand, if they criticize conservatives they are welcomed into the fold. If they spew liberal venom and personally attack the opposition they are given special doggie treats and welcomed into the inner circle.

    It’s an odd and disturbing turnaround of the ‘Blacklisting’ of members and sympathizers of the liberal, Communist Party in the late 40’s and early 50’s. Now, entertainers are blacklisting themselves if they don’t publicly support liberal, progressive, socialist, communist values and campaign for political candidates that represent that platform and those values.

    The House Committee on Un-American Activities went too far. What began as a national security idea became a witch-hunt. Now the elite network media, Hollywood and many in the entertainment industry have gone too far the other way. Many useful idiots doing the bidding of their liberal masters.

    So the actors are faced with a decision that will reveal their character and dictate their career path to the world and the ‘Elite Ruling Class’. Play along, join the club, ridicule conservative values, support the Libs and be handed all the great scripts and movie roles and get filthy rich… or be a conservative and be ignored or blacklisted from the film industry.


  19. 19 Voice of Raisins September 17, 2008 at 8:59 am

    It is amazing to me that so many buy into the empty promises that the Teleprompter King spews out. He is doing nothing more than promising false hopes for the seemingly hopeless; painting the illusion that those who are “poor” will be brought up to the levels they are somehow entitled to. What is really amazing is that it is the same vote buying strategy that the Dems have been using for years, yet the “poor” who buy into it remain “poor.” Many of the dumb masses are like spoiled children. They will naturally gravitate toward the parent who buys them more toys.

    OK, climbing down now…


  20. 20 Voice of Raisins September 17, 2008 at 9:07 am

    Chuck Norris, author of Black Belt Patriotism, is one celeb who isn’t afraid to espouse his own conservative beliefs. Of course, who’s gonna challenge Chuck Norris? 😀



  21. 21 Voice of Raisins September 17, 2008 at 9:08 am

    Quiz of the day:

    Who Am I?

    I am under 45 years old,
    I love the outdoors,
    I hunt,
    I am a Republican reformer,
    I have taken on the Republican Party establishment,
    I have many children,
    And, I have a spot on the national ticket as vice president with less than two years in the governor’s office.

    So, who am I?


  22. 22 Voice of Raisins September 17, 2008 at 9:10 am

    And don’t forget, Talk Like a Pirate Day is Friday!




  23. 23 Voice of Raisins September 17, 2008 at 9:12 am

    The brilliance of Joe Biden on video:

    If it wasn’t so pathetic, it’d be really funny…


  24. 24 Carolina Lady September 17, 2008 at 9:19 am

    Are there sites/blogs where I can post free advertising for Braves And Stuff?


  25. 25 Voice of Raisins September 17, 2008 at 9:24 am

    CL: 😆


  26. 26 Savannah Guy September 17, 2008 at 9:27 am

    Biden is pathetic. He’s most comfortable giving a plagiarized speech or sitting on a congressional-hearing panel… bloviating, insulting, parsing and harshly grilling the likes of Clarence Thomas and Robert Bork.

    O’Biden will no doubt come up with a major gaffe before this campaign is over.

    McPalin will look like a breath of fresh air in her debate with the obnoxious one.


  27. 27 Savannah Guy September 17, 2008 at 9:36 am

    CL, think the folks at the Daliy Kos, MoveOn.org or the Al-Jazeera blogs might like a little Braves talk and kindly advertise Braves and Stuff? Maybe post a link for us too? Being all about freedom of choice and open-mindedness, maybe they’d go for a little diversity of opinion and stuff. 😆


  28. 28 Voice of Raisins September 17, 2008 at 9:42 am

    Re-posted quiz of the day:

    Who Am I?

    I am under 45 years old,
    I love the outdoors,
    I hunt,
    I am a Republican reformer,
    I have taken on the Republican Party establishment,
    I have many children,
    And, I have a spot on the national ticket as vice president with less than two years in the governor’s office.

    So, who am I?

    Anybody wanna take a WAG?

    (WAG = Wild @$$ Guess)


  29. 29 Savannah Guy September 17, 2008 at 9:47 am

    I’ll bite, but it must be a trick question (like a VP in another national org). But here goes: Sarah Palin.


  30. 30 Voice of Raisins September 17, 2008 at 9:47 am

    Trouble afoot:


    This will bubble over into a major issue soon. Watch the media try to quiet it until after November 4.


  31. 31 Voice of Raisins September 17, 2008 at 9:49 am

    Sarah Palin

    How do you make that annoying buzzer sound in print?


  32. 32 Voice of Raisins September 17, 2008 at 9:50 am

    Quiz of the day:

    Who Am I?

    I am under 45 years old,
    I love the outdoors,
    I hunt,
    I am a Republican reformer,
    I have taken on the Republican Party establishment,
    I have many children,
    And, I have a spot on the national ticket as vice president with less than two years in the governor’s office.

    Teddy Roosevelt in 1900. Similar to Palin with fewer ovaries…


  33. 33 Voice of Raisins September 17, 2008 at 9:51 am

    OK, that was tasteless… 😳


  34. 34 Savannah Guy September 17, 2008 at 9:56 am

    Good’un Raisins. I should’a remembered that.


  35. 36 Savannah Guy September 17, 2008 at 10:51 am

    ’bout to get on the road again… y’all behave.


  36. 38 Voice of Raisins September 17, 2008 at 11:08 am

    Be careful, there, llittle buckaroo. It’s a jungle out there…


  37. 39 Gil in Mechanicsville September 17, 2008 at 12:34 pm

    Good morning folks, beautiful day here where the South begins… I finished mowing the lawn today after suffering a delay for needing to repair the mower deck on the John Deere. At least it still starts but well, you know…

    I have been mulling around an idea for a blog lead… So many timely topics to pick from.

    The moving vans showed up at the Diamond yesterday to pack up the Braves’ office goods and other assorted equipment and I am sure it is well on its way to Georgia by now.

    No hard feelings left on my part.. I am moving on to a new affiliation whenever that occurs.

    I am going to be good today and not espouse any political vitriol as I would be preaching to the choir anyway. However… YOU KNOW!!!!


  38. 40 Voice of Raisins September 17, 2008 at 12:44 pm

    So Dale Sveum loses (Yes, I said Sveum loses. It’s the manager that loses, right? Not the team, right?) with C.C. on the mound. I wonder if he’s on the “hot seat” yet…


  39. 41 Voice of Raisins September 17, 2008 at 1:03 pm

    You’ve likely never heard of Junichi Tazawa. But along with CC Sabathia, Mark Teixeira and Ben Sheets, he is about to become one of the hottest – and most controversial – names of the winter…

    Several teams, including the Red Sox, Mets, Braves and Dodgers, have scouted Tazawa…

    The rest of the article is here:



  40. 42 Voice of Raisins September 17, 2008 at 1:19 pm

    The Pirates face what some might see as a challenging decision involving first baseman Adam LaRoche this offseason … If they tender him a contract through arbitration, his salary is sure to jump up from its current $5 million. From there, if they end up paying, say, $7 million, they have no guarantee that they will receive any value on that investment until, oh, May or June. On the other hand, if they trade LaRoche, they run the risk of seeing him finally put together two good halves elsewhere. Or not. “Zero chance of that,” LaRoche said. “I will never change. I will hit like this for the rest of my life, and I’ll never be able to tell you why.” He burst out laughing immediately after saying that, a clear sign that his sense of humor again survived another maddening season in which he batted below the Mendoza Line through May 17 but is now up to .269 with 20 home runs and 75 RBIs. Isolating just on the 50 games since the start of July, his average is .328 with 12 home runs, 16 doubles and 41 RBIs. Management does not discuss contract matters, but the Pirates are known to be amenable to broaching an amicable settlement with LaRoche in advance of arbitration, as with all eligible players. If not, they almost surely will tender him an arbitration contract. LaRoche’s take? “Maybe they can give me a three-year contract that’s payable over six years.” — Pittsburgh Post-Gazette

    So LaRoche can start slow every year, and it’s a factor in his contract status. Tex does it, and he gets a pass. Why?


  41. 43 Salty September 17, 2008 at 2:03 pm

    ‘Cause LaRoche has his feet firmly planted on the ground. Texeira has his head in the clouds, thus more susceptible to pollution, global warming, and the noxious effects of the entitled! 😯

    Was that political?

    I kill myself! 😆


  42. 44 Berigan ll, the worm turns September 17, 2008 at 3:22 pm

    That, and Tex projects to drive in 120 RBI’s this year, Adam 82. And Tex is 6 months younger. 😛
    They both should start hitting living pitching In January….


  43. 45 Berigan ll, the worm turns September 17, 2008 at 3:27 pm

    V, this part of it worries me…

    Tazawa’s intent is to take the best offer he can get from a team in the major leagues, a move that could fracture decades of goodwill between the professional leagues of Japan and the United States.

    Major League Baseball has long had an informal agreement with Nippon Professional Baseball regarding amateur players. In essence, MLB teams have agreed not to sign Japanese prospects. The only process to acquire Japanese players has been via free agency (granted after nine seasons in the NPL) or through the posting system.

    That guarantees Japanese teams either the services of their best players or compensation for losing them. Without such a system, the future of the Japanese leagues would be endangered.

    As Americans, we have the right to take the best players from other countries! 😀


  44. 46 Carolina Lady September 17, 2008 at 3:44 pm

    ❓ If the United States is such a rotten, miserable, unjust, hate-mongering nation, why do so many people from the rest of the world do everything possible, including risking their lives, to get in??

    “Tazawa’s intent is to take the best offer he can get from a team in the major leagues…” I don’t think I’ve ever seen greed work out well.


  45. 47 Carolina Lady September 17, 2008 at 3:49 pm

    from Paladin:

    Medal of Honor Recipient Ed Freeman rest in Peace ..

    For the younger folks and those who are unfamiliar with the story below,
    the movie ONCE WE WERE SOLDIERS, with Mel Gibson ….
    told the story of this epic battle and the incredible courage
    of all those who participated……

    You’re an 18 or 19 year old kid. You’re critically wounded, and dying in the jungle in the Ia Drang Valley, 11-14-1965. LZ Xray, Vietnam. Your Infantry Unit is outnumbered 8 – 1, and the enemy fire is so intense, from 100 or 200 yards away, that your own Infantry Commander has ordered the Medi-Vac helicopters to stop coming in.

    You’re lying there, listening to the enemy machine guns, and you know you’re not getting out. Your family is 1/2 way around the world, 12,000 miles away, and you’ll never see them again. As the world starts to fade in and out, you know this is the day.

    Then, over the machine gun noise, you faintly hear that sound of a helicopter, and you look up to see a Huey, but it doesn’t seem real,
    because there are no Medi-Vac markings are on it.

    Ed Freeman is coming for you. He’s not Medi-Vac, so it’s not his job, but he’s flying his Huey down into the machine gun fire, after the Medi-Vacs were ordered not to come. He’s coming anyway.

    And he drops it in, and sits there in the machine gun fire, as they load 2 or 3 of you on board. Then he flies you up and out through the gunfire, to the Doctors and Nurses.

    And, he kept coming back…… 13 more times….. and took about 30 of you and your buddies out, who would never have gotten out.

    Medal of Honor Recipient, Ed Freeman,
    Died yesterday at the age of 80, in Boise, ID.

    May God rest his soul ………


  46. 48 Berigan ll, the worm turns September 17, 2008 at 3:53 pm

    Ed Freeman, a true hero!!!!


  47. 49 Carolina Lady September 17, 2008 at 3:56 pm

    Barak would try to negotiate with them….


  48. 50 Voice of Raisins September 17, 2008 at 3:59 pm

    Barak would try to negotiate with them



  49. 51 Voice of Raisins September 17, 2008 at 4:00 pm

    Barak Hussein Obama could not have negotiated with them because his teleprompter would not have worked in the jungle…


  50. 52 Carolina Lady September 17, 2008 at 4:05 pm

    True, Raisins!

    Here’s the other side of the coin of some people BORN in and RAISED in the USA:

    Josh Howard’s decision-making has again come into question after he was filmed disrespecting the national anthem. And the Mavericks are taking steps to help Howard and their other players avoid controversy in the future. In a video posted on YouTube, the swingman is shown at Allen Iverson’s charity flag football game in July. When the national anthem is being sung, various participants are shown mugging for the camera. When the camera gets to Howard, he says: ” ‘The Star-Spangled Banner’ is going on. I don’t celebrate this [expletive]. I’m black.”



  51. 53 Carolina Lady September 17, 2008 at 4:07 pm

    Without that teleprompter, he can barely put two words to gather…
    yeah, uhhhhhhhhhhhh


  52. 54 Salty September 17, 2008 at 4:08 pm

    Come on guys! That’s a bit harsh, even if comedic! High road, remember…high road! Anyone can play in the muck! 😆


  53. 55 Berigan ll, the worm turns September 17, 2008 at 4:14 pm

    Uhhh, ummm….you are right Salty! 😛


  54. 56 Voice of Raisins September 17, 2008 at 4:15 pm

    Truth hurts…


  55. 57 Berigan ll, the worm turns September 17, 2008 at 4:16 pm

    Some black NBA player needs to B*tch slap Josh Howard, and tell the mental midget that in some countries he’d be cannon fodder instead of making millions…millions that most American’s don’t have the chance to make for their hard work…


  56. 58 Berigan ll, the worm turns September 17, 2008 at 4:18 pm

    A nice story on Giambi, and even a little bit towards the Mutts, at least back after 9-11….I’ll try to remember that if they make the playoffs….


  57. 59 Voice of Raisins September 17, 2008 at 4:28 pm

    I believe my feeling toward the NY Mess is well documented… 😀


  58. 60 Voice of Raisins September 17, 2008 at 4:29 pm

    Time to jet…

    Later, taters!


  59. 61 Berigan ll, the worm turns September 17, 2008 at 4:32 pm

    Is T. Boone Pickens ‘Swiftboating’ America?


  60. 62 Carolina Lady September 17, 2008 at 4:45 pm

    Excellent article on Giambi, Ber. I’m just continually amazed that people who make multi-million dollar salaries would fight over a little more money. Giambi sure has his head on straight in regard to his position! Kudos to him for standing up and doing something very right!


  61. 63 Carolina Lady September 17, 2008 at 4:45 pm

    Sorry, Salty. Am I in my own doghouse? 😦


  62. 64 Salty September 17, 2008 at 5:17 pm

    CL…’course not…no one is. You all stated your view, comedic-style, and I responded with my perception…nothing more.

    The article on T.Boone is as mis-guided as he accuses T.Boone of being. Does anyone think a 3.5% reduction in 35 years is progress? What it means is we’ve shipped dollars by the boatload overseas while ignoring our own backyards. When it was cheap, perhaps not a bad policy, but now…not so good. Any policy lacking vision of its consequences will rise up and bite. Frankly, I’ll fault industry as much as gov’t on this one, as industry benefited enormously from the instability that exists in most parts of the world from which we import.

    Of course, no one gave one whit about the oil industry prior to five years ago…many companies spent years just trying to survive, and the economies of those regions suffered accordingly. The Texas economy has taken its hits the past 25 years…and now is taking it again.

    I’m rambling…my points have holes, but on the whole, I’m satisfied…for the moment! 😛


  63. 65 Gil in Mechanicsville September 17, 2008 at 5:26 pm

    Greetings all…. Looks like hindsight is 20-20… Folks, I have long said I could not understand investors’ love of dot com stocks when all they really had was and idea and a room full of rented computers. One blip and the whole thing collapses. Then there are the bandits who were playing fast and loose with company money and the risky pyramid schemes and now see the whole house of cards fall in a heap, taking the good along with the bad to the abyss of bankruptcy.

    Lessons we learned from our parents to live within your means, not try to keep up with the Jones, and that tried and true “A fool and his money are soon parted”…

    I’m not the sharpest knife in the drawer but I have always tried to make sure my out-go did not exceed my income. If I died tomorrow, no one would have to worry about paying off my debts nor would they be put out of our home.

    So…. baseball…. They are still playing???


  64. 66 Gil in Mechanicsville September 17, 2008 at 5:30 pm

    And the bottom line…. Looks like Bin Laden was right… He said if they could get the price of oil up to $140 a barrel, he could cause the entire American economy to collapse… Duh!!!!! Looks like he won…..


  65. 67 Berigan ll, the worm turns September 17, 2008 at 6:12 pm

    “Season can’t end soon enough for some”….guess who’s number 1 with a bullet??? You’ll never guess!



  66. 68 Carolina Lady September 17, 2008 at 6:53 pm

    Hackers have broken into Palin’s personal Yahoo email account, publishing her emails online. Do these people have no scruples or morals?


  67. 69 Carolina Lady September 17, 2008 at 7:36 pm

    Believe it or not, these bozos have a blog site and their discussion is there for all to see.

    “Someone got into her account and posted some screen shots. Then he gave away the password. Some stupid kid got in and locked it and said he was giving the account back to SP. He posted a screen cap with the new password in it and anon got it back. It got locked out and deleted this morning. Nothing incriminating was found. Was fun while it lasted but nothing really came out of it. No loss, no gain.”

    “Now listen to me folks, this can be still turn into win.
    By not showing any real info one could say the hacker was abiding to the white hat tradition of breaking in just to show it can be done. That puts the hacker in a moral ground that can level the field of accusations of terrorism and breaches of national security and puts the burden on Palin’s lack of ability to protect her own account. This way, the failure of having tha accounts deleted before any information was obtained can be turned into win.”

    “They needed a reason to get rid of the email accounts. Palin’s camp is all behind this. The inbox wasn’t too full and who knows what was saved in other folders. But I’m thinking they took out anything incriminating, then released the info out there for people to grab. Had some people on the inside here at 4chan to help move it along and then close it up.

    Now they look like the innocent victims and the evidence is gone. Time to put the blame on the democrats so they look like the bad guys.”

    The inmates have indeed taken over the asylum.


  68. 70 Berigan ll, the worm turns September 17, 2008 at 10:00 pm

    “The inmates have indeed taken over the asylum” Exactly CL!!!
    It reminds me when that head Al-Queda guy was killed a year or so ago. First thing some sites said was he was really a CIA plant, how Al-Queda was just a created myth for the masses, blah, blah, blah.

    These folks have their own alternate universe they live in. Black is white, evil is good, hackers are fighting for what’s right…. ugh.


  69. 71 Berigan ll, the worm turns September 17, 2008 at 10:06 pm

    Hey, doesn’t anyone want to talk braves ball??? 😕
    SG must be happy, we are well on our way of being swept. Honestly, I want the Phillies to represent the NL East… not the mutts


  70. 72 Carolina Lady September 17, 2008 at 10:24 pm

    Ben Sheets out of the game after 2 innings – tightness in forearm. Isn’t that the same symptom that several of our guys had which eventually led to surgery??


  71. 73 Berigan ll, the worm turns September 17, 2008 at 10:34 pm

    CL, good point. My first thought was he’s a wimp….biggest game of the year, and he’s hurt…but I forgot about that….rotten time to have elbow issues. As much as I don’t like the mets, I feel sorry for Wagner, since he can’t pitch til 2010, because of the late injury….


  72. 74 flbravesgirl September 17, 2008 at 10:39 pm

    Just think of what those juvenile computer geniuses could accomplish if they’d grow up & do something useful with their talents. Very tacky of them to do that.

    That’s why I don’t want the Braves to consider Sheets. Always something wrong with him.


  73. 75 Berigan ll, the worm turns September 17, 2008 at 10:44 pm

    FLB, I agree….Sheets is just too fragile. Looks strong….


  74. 76 Carolina Lady September 17, 2008 at 10:51 pm

    One last thing before turning in –
    It has been proved that ABC edited the Palin interview with Gibson – changed it considerably. Here’s a link to the transcript if you care; the deleted parts are in bold and underline.

    I ask again: do these people have no scruples or morals? It’s just wrong no matter who it is.


  75. 77 Savannah Guy September 17, 2008 at 10:59 pm

    The Hollywood Obamarama collected $9 mil from Hollywood last night. Wow!!! That’s a whopping .0000000000000000000000000000000000000000001 percent of the net worth in the room of “dedicated” stars in the room. Quite an anemic endorsement.

    That’s spare change for the Ruling Class of actors. Maybe Holly-would change if they could change. Just in: there were 173 flavors of Kool-Aid at the banquet. One for each day that Obama has actually served as a Senator. If they had offered the same number of flavors as his record of accomplishments for “the people”, there would have been only been alcohol and rubber chicken.


  76. 78 Savannah Guy September 17, 2008 at 11:08 pm

    From high atop midtown Atlanta:

    Bear, I’d like to see the Braves win every remaining game this year except for games with the Phils. Not out of love for the Phillies… just strong dislike for the Mutts and their obnoxious fans.

    Gil makes a good bunch’a points about living within means and such. Folks, it’s time to hunker down and make sure we don’t own stocks. Our stock market is not the only thing broken… it’s the tax and spend government and the Dem controlled House and Senate that does nothing but demonize, investigate and complain.


  77. 79 flbravesgirl September 17, 2008 at 11:09 pm

    “Obamarama” 😆 Good one, SG!


  78. 80 flbravesgirl September 17, 2008 at 11:11 pm

    Shoud I be starting posts “from high atop Blackberry Ridge”?


  79. 81 Savannah Guy September 17, 2008 at 11:13 pm

    Braves Magic Number: 162

    The magic may have already escaped us this year, but like Bear, we’ll get’em next year. In the meantime… #@%$& the Mutts.


  80. 82 Gil in Mechanicsville September 17, 2008 at 11:13 pm

    I do not begrudge fools who are parted from their money for the sake of trying to buy influence. Hollywood is full of such fools, I only fear that sane people would actually care what they think….

    I am not a Barrack hater, I just happen to feel John McCain would make a better president. Perhaps the wall street melt down is the brokers getting a head start on the redistribution of wealth…

    Of course as a stake holder of AIG by virtue of being a tax payer, I move the whole bunch be fired and a new BOD installed who can show a bit of profitability…

    Now baseball….. PHEW-U!!!! Do the Braves stink or what???


  81. 83 flbravesgirl September 17, 2008 at 11:14 pm

    I second that.


  82. 84 Savannah Guy September 17, 2008 at 11:14 pm

    FBG, you should have a Blackberry on that ridge.

    Or at least make some blackberry cobbler… one of my personal favorites.


  83. 85 flbravesgirl September 17, 2008 at 11:17 pm

    Hopefully we’ll be here next summer when they’re ripe & I can make cobbler. I’ve got my grandmother’s recipe for blackberry syrup too, incredible over vanilla ice cream.


  84. 86 Gil in Mechanicsville September 17, 2008 at 11:17 pm

    Uh SG… No fans are more obnoxious than Philly fans….. I do like Jimy Williams and Charlie Manual though…

    And FBG… Is that close to Blueberry Hill?? 🙂


  85. 87 Gil in Mechanicsville September 17, 2008 at 11:18 pm

    And of course now we know why they are called “brokers”…


  86. 88 Gil in Mechanicsville September 17, 2008 at 11:19 pm

    Okay… beddy bye time for me… maybe I can dream up a blog lead.


  87. 89 flbravesgirl September 17, 2008 at 11:19 pm

    We’ve got a lot of wild blueberry bushes too. And a peach tree growing behind the shed. I think someone finished eating a peach, tossed the pit back there & it actually sprouted.


  88. 90 flbravesgirl September 17, 2008 at 11:22 pm

    It’s close to Tiger Mountain, Oaky Mountain & Black Rock Mountain, Gil. 🙂 I have seen a street sign for Huckleberry Hill though.


  89. 91 Savannah Guy September 17, 2008 at 11:33 pm

    Al Gore is a major stockholder of Lehman Brothers. Barney Frank, Dick Durbin and other prominent Dems enabled, promoted and supported the AIG practices and dubious leadership. Obama was the top recipient of Fannie Mae/Freddie Mac contributions. Does this look like a trend? Is the Network media reporting any of this? No, but we do know all about Palin’s pregnant daughter though.

    Good people of Stuffville, we are now seeing our government bailout of Fannie, Freddie, AIG, and other financial groups. We are witnessing the first wave of nationalized insurance, health care, home ownership (government housing) and… what next, oil? Welcome to the new United Socialist States of America(s). USSA. Redistribution anyone?

    Just wondering: will Al Gore lose his carbon credits now? Will his new gas-guzzling super-yacht be covered by his carbon footprint? Will the earth start cooling like the Old Farmer’s Almanac says?

    Wake up call is early. Me to bed now.


  90. 92 Berigan ll, the worm turns September 18, 2008 at 4:55 am

    An interesting post on mlbtraderumors.com on the braves….and the first 12 comments as of this hour are fairly interesting as well…


  91. 93 Salty September 18, 2008 at 6:33 am

    Fannie, Freddie: call it like it is…gov’t had its chance, but blew it, courtesy of the same party that would give you a $1K tax credit than work towards creating you a job. Essentially, here’s your fish, don’t worry about learning how….we’ll get you another one later!

    AIG: for once, this might be a homerun. Sum of the parts greater than the whole…and actually done in a way that is incentive to aggressively sell those parts via $8 billion/year in interest. The only way to avoid the interest is to reduce the principal. Think this way: if gov’t can own real estate, why not a piece of capital America? AIG has a cancer that needs disposal, but don’t toss the body just yet…give the chemo a chance.


  92. 94 Berigan ll, the worm turns September 18, 2008 at 8:04 am

    Salty, too early for that kind of talk….yyyeoow…sound of financial talk flying over my head. 😳


  93. 95 Salty September 18, 2008 at 8:07 am

    Have a cup of coffee…come back in an hour, Ber! 🙂
    Besides, wait ’til SG chimes in! He’s the savvy one!


  94. 96 Berigan ll, the worm turns September 18, 2008 at 8:47 am

    Well, you two are more savvy than those who have been running these entities…into the ground. But, those folks are a lot richer than you as well! Gotta be really smart to screw up this much. 😉


  95. 97 Berigan ll, the worm turns September 18, 2008 at 9:00 am

    Gotta love this AP story…it’s all Palin’s fault, plus they didn’t give copies of emails to the secret service, when asked for them!!!!


  96. 98 Berigan ll, the worm turns September 18, 2008 at 9:00 am

    They being AP


  97. 99 Carolina Lady September 18, 2008 at 9:01 am

    re: Ber’s article – Boof Bonser? That’s a real person??


  98. 100 Carolina Lady September 18, 2008 at 9:10 am

    “Democratic vice presidential candidate Joe Biden said Thursday that paying more in taxes is the patriotic thing to do for wealthier Americans.”

    “Noting that wealthier Americans would indeed pay more, Biden said: “It’s time to be patriotic … time to jump in, time to be part of the deal, time to help get America out of the rut.” “

    Y’all work real hard now and earn a lot of money so you will have more to give to me, OK? Oh, and thanks! 😛


  99. 101 Berigan ll, the worm turns September 18, 2008 at 9:36 am

    CL, you never heard of Boof Bonser??? Someone doesn’t watch baseball tonight! 😛 They used to love to mention him because of his name.

    He used to be half decent. Seems he had a great curveball, but I guess that’s about it. 5.91 ERA this year. No thanks. We have folks who can crank out those kind of numbers….

    I’ll tell you what….seeing how weak the offense looks of late, they better not think one bat is all we need. For all our griping about Tex, Kotchman is not his offensive equal. Seems to be turning it around, which is great, but he won’t drive in the runs ol’ Tex did.

    2 starters? Great, but we need 2 bats, IMHO….


  100. 102 Voice of Raisins September 18, 2008 at 10:00 am

    Money talk: I am broke and getting broker. I am working more, earning less, and paying more out in expenses. My “investment capital” is called grocery and gas money. I can’t ask my boss for a raise because I am the boss, and I’ll tell me “No.” Aside from that, the future looks good. 😀

    Now baseball: Nice link, Ber. I think Tim Dierkes’ analysis is no different than anything that we have been discussing for weeks, he just showed the hard numbers to back it up. I think trading Francoeur would be a huge mistake. That’s a “day-trading” (to incorporate a financial talk reference) move. Everything on Jeff’s baseball resume says he will be a very good if not great baseball player. He had a bad season. Now suddenly he has lost the ability to play the same game he has played all of his life? History has shown that players all over MLB can have a bad season and rebound back to their former selves. I won’t bother specifying examples (perhaps Tim Dierkes can do that for us, too). I will say again what I have said for weeks. Sign 2 pitchers in FA, Lowe is #1 on my list, Wolf/Burnett/Looper are next. Gives you a rotation of Lowe, other FA, JJ, Campillo, one from a group that includes Morton, Parr, Reyes and our injured vets. Smoltz will almost certainly be back. I think Hampton should be resigned to a contract smart for both sides. Then, go after Dunn for LF, with Juan Rivera as #2 option, Raul Ibanez as #3. I love our current bench of Norton, Infante and Prado. Other option is to sign only 1 FA pitcher, trade KJ for another, and sign a 2B in FA like Orlando Hudson. All of these options make for a competitive team for 2009. The wild-card in all of this, as we learned this year, is the injury bug. I will give you my dream 25 in a minute…


  101. 103 Voice of Raisins September 18, 2008 at 10:03 am

    Ber, Kotchman can drive in runs, but he’ll do it like Mark Grace, with timely hitting, not like Ryan Howard, who bludgeons the ball into submission. Would I prefer a power bat at 1B? Yes… but if we can provide that power elsewhere, like LF, I’ll take Kotchman.


  102. 104 Carolina Lady September 18, 2008 at 10:36 am

    No, Ber, I don’t watch the program – or much of anything else! 😆

    Raisins, I fully understand! Should Obama be elected, our taxes will just about double – I’ve seen the tables. Of course, all that will be offset by all the money they’ll take from the rich people and give to us. Right?


  103. 105 Salty September 18, 2008 at 12:18 pm

    Of course, all that will be offset by all the money they’ll take from the rich people and give to us.
    Only if double taxes is < or = $1000! 🙄


  104. 106 Salty September 18, 2008 at 12:32 pm

    time to jump in, time to be part of the deal, time to help get America out of the rut.

    YES!!! I’m on board! Who’s with me? Come on folks…join the cause…fight the glorious fight! Do as the man says…let’s get this country out of the rut! On election day, pull the levers that remove the ‘ear-markers’ from office (sure wish I lived in DE)!!!! :mrgreen:

    You don’t suppose I twisted his intentions too much, do you? 😆


  105. 107 Carolina Lady September 18, 2008 at 12:38 pm

    Salty, you convinced me to join in – to be PATRIOTIC! I’m sure there are a few pennies – maybe even some dimes and nickels – well, maybe not ’cause I had to get gas for the lawn mower not long ago.

    Twisted? Read the transcript of ABC’s Palin interview, then compare it with what they aired and you’ll see twisted.


  106. 108 Salty September 18, 2008 at 12:40 pm

    So, CL…are saying I could be a media-dude!?! I can twist with the best of ’em? 😆


  107. 109 Carolina Lady September 18, 2008 at 12:42 pm

    NEW YORK (AP) — Trial has begun for a baseball player-turned-actor accused of brutally killing a cat in a jealous rage after complaining that his ex-girlfriend cared more for the furry feline than she did for him.

    Norman the cat died of massive internal injuries and suffered broken ribs and teeth.

    Assistant District Attorney Leila Kermani said the cat named Norman died with broken teeth, broken ribs, a broken leg, a torn tongue, massive internal injuries including bruised lungs and a bruised liver and a chest cavity filled with blood.

    “The defendant, in a fit of anger and rage, beat a defenseless animal to death,” Kermani told the jury in her opening remarks Wednesday. “The defendant killed Norman simply because he was an angry, jealous and drunken bully.”

    Former New York Mets minor leaguer Joseph Petcka, 37, is on trial on charges of aggravated cruelty to animals for killing Norman on March 27, 2007, after a night of heavy drinking. He faces up to two years in prison if convicted.


  108. 110 Voice of Raisins September 18, 2008 at 1:15 pm

    You know, I am NOT a cat person, but I still am sick to my stomach over that one…

    Doesn’t he know that the Mets look poorly on animal cruelty, unless it’s cock-fighting? 😀


  109. 111 Voice of Raisins September 18, 2008 at 1:16 pm

    Who names a cat Norman?


  110. 112 Carolina Lady September 18, 2008 at 2:49 pm

    How humans can abuse any animal is beyond me. That guy is one sicko.


  111. 114 Voice of Raisins September 18, 2008 at 3:40 pm


    The Atlanta Braves announced today that the entire coaching staff will return in 2009 with no changes.

    That should end all speculation as to Ned Yost coming back to ATL…


  112. 115 Salty September 18, 2008 at 3:42 pm

    CL…pay no never mind to what Mallick says. She’s just a ‘beet writer’! 😆


  113. 116 Carolina Lady September 18, 2008 at 3:54 pm

    Salty – 😆

    Raisins – sigh…..


  114. 117 Berigan ll, the worm turns September 18, 2008 at 4:28 pm

    From LGF. the Italic writing is from the guy who runs it, Charles Johnson.
    The bold print is from the This swell guy who the Boston Globe decided since he’s written a few books, he should write this Op-Ed..just unbelievable!!!!

    Boston Globe Op-Ed: ‘I Don’t Support the Troops’
    US NewsThu, Sep 18, 2008 at 8:47:02 am PDT

    Every once in a while a “progressive” gets tired of maintaining a false front, and comes right out and says what they really feel about the military and about America. Today’s self-unmasking is by Steve Almond, for the Boston Globe: Supporting our troops.

    PERHAPS the most insidious byproduct of the attacks of Sept. 11, 2001, has been a reflexive sanctification of the military. To put this in bumper stickerese: Support the Troops.

    Well, I have an ugly confession to make: I don’t support the troops – at least not unconditionally. When somebody tells me they serve in the military, my first impulse isn’t to say, “Thank you for your service!” like those insufferable chickenhawks on talk radio.

    My first impulse is to say, “I’m sorry to hear that.” Because I am. I’m sorry to know that the person I’m talking to might someday be maimed or killed on the job, or might someday kill someone else. Or refuel a plane that drops bombs on buildings.

    I can’t see how anyone who calls himself or herself Christian – or human, for that matter – wouldn’t be sorry.

    The fact that we have an army, that we need an army, is inherently tragic. It’s an admission that our species is still ruled by fear and aggression.


  115. 118 Berigan ll, the worm turns September 18, 2008 at 4:31 pm

    That’s just part of it…don’t want to be like Charles Gibson, you can read more by clicking on the link within the article…


  116. 119 Gil in Mechanicsville September 18, 2008 at 4:32 pm

    And for some… they are ruled by stupidity….


  117. 120 Gil in Mechanicsville September 18, 2008 at 4:35 pm

    As a spokesman for the “white trash vote”.. It’s why we kicked their butt out of the USA and transported them to Canada to begin with… If it were not for us “white trash” types… All the Canucks would be speaking German right now….


  118. 121 Hillbilly September 18, 2008 at 4:35 pm

    I’m honestly surprised a Mets-affiliated player could catch a cat. Much less hit it hard enough to inflict any damage. What a jackass.


  119. 122 Hillbilly September 18, 2008 at 4:37 pm

    If the cat could have avoided the former Met minor-leaguer until September, he might would have been alright.


  120. 123 Hillbilly September 18, 2008 at 4:37 pm

    O.K. that’s enough…


  121. 124 Berigan ll, the worm turns September 18, 2008 at 4:40 pm

    If I ever saw anyone hurt a cat or dog, kid, or old person, I’d best just plead insanity….I wouldn’t be responsible for my actions…


  122. 125 Carolina Lady September 18, 2008 at 5:06 pm

    Hillbilly – I’m honestly surprised a Mets-affiliated player could catch a cat. Now that’s a good line!


  123. 126 Berigan ll, the worm turns September 18, 2008 at 6:34 pm

    V, about your braves future talk…I am slowly starting to warm up to the thought of Lowe. I do wonder about his age though. Well, I don’t think he’s lying about it, you know what I mean! 🙂 He also has mentioned to folks that he wants to play on the east coast….are we east coast enough??? I just don’t know. Hope we are.
    Don’t forget Tommy Hanson, I know DOB thinks he will be in the mix.

    What’s funny, is if Glavine and Smoltz could pitch reasonably well, and can stay healthy, starting pitching might be the least of our worries next year.

    I should also say, since I know how terribly much you all view my opinion, 😛 we should hang on to Frenchy. He just can’t be worth much, might as well hope he turns it around. Surely what Andruw has isn’t catching, right???

    KJ is way too streaky, I am sure Infante and Prado could be more consistent, even if they have less power. Infante has 282 AB’s and is hitting .296…getting close to full time


  124. 127 Berigan ll, the worm turns September 18, 2008 at 6:47 pm

    So, do you all think Ryan Howard should be the MVP??? Only hitting .249, but on pace to hit 48 HR’s and 148 RBI’s. I just checked, runners on , 2 outs, hitting .309 11 HR’s 49 RBI’s . Just with runners on , 23 HR’s 112 RBI’s .300 BA.
    He’d be my man, if I had a vote. Fat Albert would be the MVP if the Cards somehow could sneak in…who else might be in the running???


  125. 128 Gil in Mechanicsville September 18, 2008 at 7:51 pm

    Two Eskimos sitting in a kayak were chilly, so they lit a fire in the craft. Unsurprisingly it sank, proving once again that you can’t have your kayak and heat it too.


  126. 129 Berigan ll, the worm turns September 18, 2008 at 8:10 pm

    Gil, 😀


  127. 131 Savannah Guy September 18, 2008 at 10:09 pm

    A big howdy do from high atop midtown Atlanta.

    Well, it’s been a record setting year for the Bravos this year. Consecutive one run road losses. More injuries than ever (right? Must’a been). Then, being swept in a season series, which is a first in almost 100 years.

    Maybe Chipper, with his NL batting title, will set one record on the other side of the ledger. Maybe Jair gets a ROY. What others? There must be more signifigant moments this year but I’m too tired to ‘member’em.

    Then, we have to appreciate… the Braves are doing there part and playing good enough at the end of this season and playing bad enough at the end of this season to put and keep the Mutts in second place. That is worthy of a spoiler role. Hopefully we’ll win the rest of our games and end the year on a high.

    For the time being, beating Mutts and losing to Phils is just fine and dandy.


  128. 132 Savannah Guy September 18, 2008 at 10:12 pm

    Yikes… “doing there part”. Now, their I go again.

    Savvy that.


  129. 133 Savannah Guy September 18, 2008 at 10:17 pm

    Now, bridging financial discussions with maze:

    Gil, why does the modern Native American Indian worry so much about having two homes during a recession and Fannie/Freddie mortgage crisis?

    He was two tents.


  130. 134 Carolina Lady September 18, 2008 at 10:21 pm

    Glad you made the trip safely! About ready to turn in – been doing research ALL day and my eyes have had it! 🙂


  131. 135 flbravesgirl September 18, 2008 at 10:23 pm

    OK, after the 4th attempt at getting this contraption to work… Good evening, y’all. I would be more upset at losing tonight but keeping the Mets out of first is a priority these days.


  132. 136 Carolina Lady September 18, 2008 at 10:29 pm

    Hey, FBG! Glad you got there safely! Been working hard?


  133. 137 flbravesgirl September 18, 2008 at 10:40 pm

    Yes. Dad & I have pulled up the nasty old vinyl floor in my kitchen, been caulking trim all over the outside of the house & doing yard clean-up. I got a bit sunburned today.


  134. 138 flbravesgirl September 18, 2008 at 10:42 pm

    One great discovery I’ve made is that the strip of lawn between the driveway & retaining wall is full of little baby hostas. I’ve been transplanting them.


  135. 139 Savannah Guy September 18, 2008 at 10:52 pm

    Salty, you make good points on AIG and 80% ownership is a good deal for any buyer, BUT…

    … it was bought by the wonderful folks who brought us public schools, social security, elimination of God in public places, abysmal road and bridge maintenance, higher taxes, earmarks out the wazoo, $250 hammers, the IRS, the permanent welfare system, political correctness, our inept Congress and Senate, the enabling of insurance/legal/banking/financial systems, foot-dragging on Jessica’s Law, the red-tape quagmire of anything ordinary citizens need on a local, regional and national level, on and on and so forth so on…

    Anyhoo, you get the picture. And every picture tells a story, don’t it?


  136. 140 Savannah Guy September 18, 2008 at 10:59 pm

    FBG, sounds like a busy time at the old (new) homestead. Little hostas are so cute when they are babies. Then they grow up and… big things. Now is a good time for transplanting. Hey, Fall is monday… this year has flown!!!

    Now I’m flyin’ to bed. Hosta la vista baby.


  137. 141 flbravesgirl September 18, 2008 at 11:02 pm

    Anybody got any tips on planting bulbs? They won’t grow in Florida so this will be my first attempt.


  138. 143 Gil in Mechanicsville September 19, 2008 at 6:34 am

    Well, it appears Brent Lillibridge has played himself out of favor with Bobby Cox. I look for him to be on the trade block this winter… A shame but life happens…


  139. 144 Voice of Raisins September 19, 2008 at 8:16 am

    FBG: Sounds like a hostal takeover… 😀


  140. 145 Voice of Raisins September 19, 2008 at 8:23 am

    The Braves will honor their minor-league pitchers and players of the year on Saturday night at Turner Field. Tommy Hanson was named pitcher of the year for the entire organization, and Freddie Freeman player of the year.

    Others named at each level were, listed by pitcher first, then players of the year: for Richmond, Charlie Morton and Josh Anderson; for Mississippi, Todd Redmond and Matt Young; for Myrtle Beach, Scott Diamond and Tyler Flowers; for Rome, Edgar Osuna and Jason Heyward; for Danville, David Francis and Jon Gilmore; for Gulf Coast League, Zeke Spruill and Robert Brooks; and for the Dominican Summer League, Edigson Mora and Alberto Odreman. –ajc


  141. 146 Savannah Guy September 19, 2008 at 8:44 am

    Well, it’s an incredible Friday topping off a bizarre week.

    Nationalization and intervention of corporations has never been positive. This is the wildest market I have ever seen. The Fed has been asleep at the wheel. So many violations of the fundamentals of a free market will have consequences. Will the government nationalize oil companies next, just like the inept Rep. Maxine Waters threatened to do so inarticulately while grilling oil execs in the recent House hearings?

    Notice this morning… the very banks and brokerage firms that got us into this economic mess are the very ones that are being helped (propped up) from this historic level of government intervention and market manipulation. Many strange things going on behind closed doors on Wall Street and in Washington.

    Nationalization and socialism go hand in hand. Hope we elect a President that is not inclined to continue bailing out greedy corporations and eliminate the middle class altogether. The Ruling Class and the poor. Sound familiar?

    These are dangerous times.


  142. 147 Salty September 19, 2008 at 8:45 am

    SG…I hear you, but have a different take. Paulson approached it as a business…not as a politician, thus I hold hope. Why should private enterprise be the sole players in a fire sale. Interesting, fascinating time for sure.


  143. 148 Savannah Guy September 19, 2008 at 8:52 am

    Raisins, I wish I could take high risks with my business to get rich… and if I failed, you and other taxpayers would pay for it.

    American business is built on the free enterprise system. We succeed or fail based on our actions. It’s not nice to mess with mother nature and it’s really dangerous for a government to tinker with private corporations.

    But if you are willing, just send me a big fat check. Then I’ll roll the dice again. 😆


  144. 149 Voice of Raisins September 19, 2008 at 9:15 am

    Remember when banks were accused of “redlining” and “discriminating” on home loans? The gov’t basically told lenders they had to find a way to provide home loans to everyone, or fall under federal scrutiny for Civil Rights violations. Everyone “has a right” to the American Dream, right? So what happened? The banks saw an opening for userous interest rates and began opening up loan programs for everyone. It didn’t matter if the applicant was qualified or not. All they did was alter the playing field. The less the ability to repay, the harder the terms for repayment. Makes sense, right? And if the borrowers had no down payment, No problem… just loan the money for that, too. FHA requires 10% for guarantees? No problem… just borrow 90% on a FHA backed loan, and take a 2nd for the remaining 10%. Can’t handle the payment? No problem… we’ll give you a low payment for a few years and you can figure out what to do later about the huge increase to come. Can’t make the payments? No problem… you have absolutely nothing invested, so you have nothing to lose. Just walk away…

    So the ingredients were there for the perfect storm. Government forcing “diversity” in lending coupled with greedy lenders loaning money to unqualified and incapable borrowers. The result is… The Mortage Crisis.

    So lenders have now predictably over-reacted, and the money sources for lending have dried up. All of the lending institutions become cash poor, go belly up or get bought out for pennies on the dollar. Government intervenes (sounds familiar, doesn’t it?) and the cycle starts again.

    Is that the American Dream everyone has a right to?

    I’ll tell you what everyone has a right to. They have the right to the pursuit of happiness. Some people simply can’t catch it. But why should they? Their nanny government will catch it for them. And in the end, we the people pay for it all.

    I have nothing against charity, but charity under duress is simply redistribution of wealth. It’s giving at the point of a gun. It’s nothing more than sanctioned robbery.

    I suppose I should look at the bright side… I’m taxed to the point that I have nothing to invest anyway. So my money is safe. The banks guarantee $22.45, right?


  145. 150 Carolina Lady September 19, 2008 at 9:20 am

    Raisins, you and me both!


  146. 151 Savannah Guy September 19, 2008 at 9:31 am

    Raisins, you have it. Just turned on the TV to see the CNBC money news ay the NYSE. The guests (some are equities traders, brokerage firms and bank CEO’s).

    They all have one thing in common: they’re all grinning from ear to ear. They look like the fat cats that just ate the flock of birds. The NYSE is like a party. Champagne should be flowing soon.


  147. 153 Voice of Raisins September 19, 2008 at 10:02 am

    Enough depressing stuff. Let’s talk Braves! Uh, oh yeah… 😦


  148. 154 Voice of Raisins September 19, 2008 at 10:07 am

    Tonight’s game:

    Braves vs. Mets at Turner Field, TV time 7:30pm on Peachtree TV.

    Get Back Jo-Jo Reyes (3-11) vs. Oliver Hardy Perez (10-7).

    If the Bravos can sweep the Mess to close the home ’08 schedule, and play spoiler, I can go into the off-season without the knot that has been present in my stomach since June.


  149. 155 Savannah Guy September 19, 2008 at 10:33 am

    This Mutts series will be a playoff atmosphere. Hopefully the Braves play it to win and leave it all on the field. A sweep would be sweet but not sure Jo Jo is up to it.


  150. 156 Gil in Mechanicsville September 19, 2008 at 10:53 am

    Folks… Is it too late for me to start some high risk venture with the assurance I will not suffer any personal loss????

    McCain gave a good speech this morning on his proposal to get us out of this mess. Obama is telling his supporters to get in “our” face…. I am going to start carrying my sidearm again, mine may be the last face they see…..


  151. 157 Savannah Guy September 19, 2008 at 10:54 am

    Sorry for the capitalist rant. Just hate it when our government steps in and takes over places they should stay out of. Whenever they get involved they wind up doing all the wrong things. They just protected some banks from short selling and left others out to dry. They already had a law about not shorting stocks unless they owned them but never regulated. On and on…

    So, I’m better now and back on to other stuff… including getting back on the road to the coast. See y’all ’round gametime. 😀


  152. 158 Carolina Lady September 19, 2008 at 10:59 am

    Drive safely, SG!

    Gil, I’m with you! I’ve had enough of this “get in your face” stuff. Would they like it if we did that to THEM?? Didn’t think so. What’s good for the goose…. Heavy-handed, cram-it-down-your-throat-whether-you-like-it-or-not will never work with me.


  153. 159 Voice of Raisins September 19, 2008 at 11:35 am

    A neighbor has a “Maverick and Barracuda ’08” bumper sticker on her car. She says people drive next to her and give her the finger all the time. Classy, huh?


  154. 160 Voice of Raisins September 19, 2008 at 1:56 pm


    I almost forgot. Today is International Talk Like A Pirate Day.

    How could I let that slip by?



  155. 161 Voice of Raisins September 19, 2008 at 1:59 pm

    Avast ye who don’t believe.


    Ay, me hearties!


  156. 162 Voice of Raisins September 19, 2008 at 1:59 pm

    I suddenly have an intense craving for fish-sticks…


  157. 163 Voice of Raisins September 19, 2008 at 2:03 pm

    Talking like a Pirate:

    “We have no chance to build a winning ballclub in this small market with our incompetent management…”

    “Why do we trade away our best players every year?”

    “I can’t believe we’ve held onto Freddie Sanchez this long.”



  158. 164 Voice of Raisins September 19, 2008 at 2:04 pm

    I hope we kick the Mets in the poopdeck.


  159. 165 Voice of Raisins September 19, 2008 at 3:16 pm

    WASHINGTON — People would rather watch a football game with Barack Obama than with John McCain — but by barely the length of a football.

    Obama was the pick over McCain by a narrow 50 percent to 47 percent, according to an Associated Press-Yahoo News poll released Friday that generally mirrored each presidential candidate’s strengths and weaknesses with voters. Women, minorities, younger and unmarried people were likelier to prefer catching a game with Obama while men, whites, older and married people would rather watch with McCain. –Alan Fram, Associated Press

    Wow… the AP is really going after the meaningful news stories of the day, huh?


  160. 166 Voice of Raisins September 19, 2008 at 3:20 pm

    And from the “credit where credit is due” dept. –

    Really funny line from the guy across the street:

    …wondering if the SEC (football) ever looked better or the SEC (Securities and Exchange Commission) ever looked worse…



  161. 167 Carolina Lady September 19, 2008 at 3:45 pm

    McCain’s fellow prisoner in Hanoi spoke here yesterday:

    Before two presidential bids and 22 years in the U.S. Senate, John McCain was simply a fellow prisoner to Col. Quincy Collins, his cell mate in Hanoi at the height of the Vietnam War.

    During their time in the same prison, the two organized patriotic events and church services to boost troop morale, their songs written on toilet paper using fish bones and diarrhea pills.

    “John had a tin ear, but he taught me some songs,” Collins said.

    Now retired from the Air Force, Collins appeared at Riverfront Park in Wilmington on Thursday as part of a non-partisan Citizenship Week event followed by a reception at The Reel Café organized by Will Breazeale, Republican candidate for the 7th District U.S. House of Representatives seat.

    Collins has been active in campaigning for McCain, serving as co-chairman of Veterans for McCain and making multiple appearances across the state for the Republican nominee for president. Thursday’s event, however, had a different focus. Collins read the Preamble to the Constitution, calling it the most important and influential document besides the Bible.

    “These are 52 words that have affected every life in this nation,” Collins said.

    From a podium made from an enlarged replica of the Constitution, Collins spoke of his reverence for the document, and how that was strengthened by his time in the prison camp with McCain. He called it the greatest growth period of his 77 years.

    “In prison, we had a motto – unity before self,” Collins said. “We had God as our co-pilot, but we needed teamwork to survive.”

    Raised in Concord, N.C., and a graduate of the Military College of South Carolina, Collins is a retired Air Force pilot currently living in Charlotte. His awards include two Purple Hearts, two Silver Stars, a Legion of Merit, a Distinguished Service medal and a POW medal. He was shot down Sept. 2, 1965, and McCain became his cell mate in 1970.

    In the prison, McCain was their “Sunday matinee,” Collins said, a gifted storyteller who would relate whole scenes with a keen memory for characters and story lines. He recalls McCain as a “hyperactive” and fiercely patriotic soldier, and a man shaped by his time in prison.

    “He’s a guy who tells it like it is, and doesn’t care if there’s objection,” Collins said.

    At the end of Thursday’s ceremony, 15 former and current military members and elected officials stood with Collins to renew their oath to the Constitution. Collins charged the audience to remember their past, appreciate their current freedom and plan for the future.

    “To be born in freedom is an accident, to live in freedom is a struggle, but to die in freedom is an obligation,” Collins said.


  162. 168 Carolina Lady September 19, 2008 at 4:06 pm

    Be very, very careful around judo-cats:

    Petcka….spoke so dramatically about little Norman’s angry “stance” — and about how the cat “lunged” and “reared” and “threw me on my butt” — that for 90 minutes of testimony, it was almost possible to forget that Norman was fully declawed and weighed only 7 3/4 pounds.

    “Norman came and lunged at me, throwing me on my butt by the coffee table,” Petcka told jurors, testifying on his own behalf against felony animal-cruelty charges that could put him in prison as long as two years.

    “I went down with my hands down towards Norman, and Norman reared around and bit into my hand, into my thumb area.

    “I was screaming, ‘Uhhh! Norman! Get off of me! Uhhh!'”

    Petcka, 37, a 6-foot-2, 210-pound former Mets minor league pitcher, told jurors he was twice forced to defend himself from Norman’s fangs. The first time, he said, he “swiped” the ferocious feline away with his pitching arm. The second time, he kicked Norman “hard” with his motorcycle boots.

    Recalling the condition of the cat’s body, this jerk is a liar and guilty as sin.


  163. 169 Carolina Lady September 19, 2008 at 5:47 pm

    Barack Obama, who lamented Friday that “we have not managed our federal budget with any kind of discipline,” is nonetheless promising to spend $50 billion on a United Nations anti-poverty program that critics say will drive up American debt.

    “The short-term weakness in the capital market is a reflection of long-term problems that we have in our economy,” Obama told reporters in Florida. “We have been loading up enormous amounts of debt.”

    Now I understand! Got debt? Spend more!


  164. 170 Berigan ll, the worm turns September 19, 2008 at 6:23 pm

    I would much rather talk to McCain, than Obama…what would I have to talk about to Obama??? How it must be nice to go to an Ivy League school??? Tell me more about your fascinating early years(after the coke snorting) as a community organizer??? 🙄
    McCain comes from a family of Admirals, yet he’s still more down to earth….


  165. 171 Gil in Mechanicsville September 19, 2008 at 6:29 pm

    Hi folks, Josie and I took the day off and went to a local fair which is a primarily devoted to restored steam engines and other nostalgic items. Pig races, lawn mower races, tractor pulls… Well you get the idea… Great fun.

    And debt… Well, I did look into buying a saw mill… 🙂 All those pine logs I have been piling up may come to some use…


  166. 172 Gil in Mechanicsville September 19, 2008 at 6:30 pm

    Personally, I’d rather hang out with Sarah and Todd…


  167. 173 Berigan ll, the worm turns September 19, 2008 at 6:39 pm

    I’d like to hang around with just Sarah! 😳


  168. 174 Berigan ll, the worm turns September 19, 2008 at 6:40 pm

    Gil, that does sound like fun! Love the old steam engines. Do you get RTV?? Rural television?? They have a weekly show on trains, and every once in awhile I see a show on ancient tractors…


  169. 175 Berigan ll, the worm turns September 19, 2008 at 7:41 pm

    Reyes gives up a homer to Reyes. He really looks like a future starter! 🙄

    So, is Prado the starting left fielder next year??? We are not in a race. I know you play the hot hitters, and I know we have had just a ton of Lefties….but Brandon Jones might, just might prove he can or cannot start, if he you now…starts. I don’t think Prado has a chance with this team to start at 2nd next year, whether KJ stays or goes…


  170. 176 Berigan ll, the worm turns September 19, 2008 at 7:49 pm

    Watch him pitch a one hitter after I ripped him! 😀 Show me up Jo-Jo!!!


  171. 177 Berigan ll, the worm turns September 19, 2008 at 8:11 pm

    Uh-oh….that JS quote! 😯 from MLBTRADERUMORS.COM

    Nate Penn of GQ wrote an interesting article on Braves third baseman Chipper Jones. Some highlights:

    * Interesting quote regarding tipping pitches: “I would say if you face seven pitchers in a week, four to five of them are doing something that gives them away.” Jones says he owned Shane Reynolds for ten years for this reason.
    * John Schuerholz treated the subject of re-signing Jones after ’09 delicately. One telling quote: “The reality of our business begs that we recognize the fact that it would be a really unusual development if he were to remain here.”
    * Chipper wants to play two to four more years, whether in Atlanta or elsewhere.



  172. 178 Savannah Guy September 19, 2008 at 9:00 pm

    Just got home (ahhhhhh), wife in shower, turned on TV, found the game, got online and heard a familiar voice but there was something different in the voice… it was young. I looked behind me (to the TV) and there he, uh, wasn’t… Tony Gwynn. The Tyler’s House of Payne kid (name?) sounds just like a young Gwynn. Nice kid (I’ll forgive him for being a Mets fan).

    Now, some commentary on the commentary:

    “Norman came and lunged at me, throwing me on my butt by the coffee table,” Petcka told jurors……

    Petcka needs to go into a prison where the inmates will treat him like a feline.

    Tractor pull

    Is that like a taffy pull, only bigger? I’ll bet CL would like to pull a knot in a tractor with a John Deere tag on it.

    I almost forgot. Today is International Talk Like A Pirate Day.

    Aye, Mateys, yank them crooked Lehman and Fannie Mae lootin’ politician’s skivvies and give’em a keelhauling. There’s honor among thieves but not them ones that steal from the common folk. Yank that sissy landlubber Petcka, prone’im on tha deck and let’im feel the cat-o’-nine-tails before he walks the plank. Chum the sharks. Arrrrhhhh…

    Now, baseball. Jo Jo has the talent, but maybe not the attention span or mind for a starting pitcher. Maybe just young, dunno. Not predictable unless you predict a bad outing before the 4th inning. Concentration? Mechanics? Mental?

    John Schuerholz treated the subject of re-signing Jones after ‘09 delicately.

    Time for JS to go. Keep Chipper.


  173. 179 Savannah Guy September 19, 2008 at 9:21 pm

    That is… keep Chipper on a year to year contract if possible. He deserves that chance to finish with the Braves and with his probable injuries and short season potential, one year wouldn’t lock us in long enough to hurt. Would Chipper agree to that? Dunno, but I would hope so.

    Here we go… two on, no out. Rally cap time.


  174. 180 Carolina Lady September 19, 2008 at 9:23 pm

    It’s incredible that a big 6’2″, 210 lb man will try to convince a jury that a clawless 7 lb cat threw him to the floor. How do you draw out that story into 90 minutes of ‘testimony’??

    John Deere: was just talking to my brother on the phone who asked if the grass needed cutting. I said yes, I am going to do it in the morning. He laughs and says, “No, I’ll do it. I don’t want you to have to fight with it again. I’ll bring my toolbox.” God bless brothers!

    Gil, that sounded like a superior outing! Glad y’all enjoyed it! I like that kind of stuff, too.

    John Schuerholz: I thought Wren did the negotiating now. Why would JS be putting his 2 cents’ worth in? I’d bet my boots that as long as Bobby Cox is there, Chipper will be there.


  175. 181 Savannah Guy September 19, 2008 at 9:32 pm

    Almost forgot…

    Happy Constitution Day!

    The three most important words: We The People.


  176. 182 Savannah Guy September 19, 2008 at 9:43 pm

    Why would JS be putting his 2 cents’ worth in?

    Excellent point. Probably because JS thinks his two cents is worth a quarter. Otherwise known as talking out your a… uh, ego.


  177. 183 Carolina Lady September 19, 2008 at 9:49 pm

    “We the People of the United States, in Order to
    (1) form a more perfect Union,
    (2) establish Justice,
    (3) insure domestic Tranquility,
    (4) provide for the common defence,
    (5) promote the general Welfare, and
    (6) secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity,
    do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.”


  178. 184 Savannah Guy September 19, 2008 at 10:15 pm

    Thanks CL. I love those words. Those promises. Those laws of our land that are broken daily by Washington.

    We need to remember to always, always speak out and fight for them.


  179. 185 Carolina Lady September 19, 2008 at 10:21 pm

    Our biggest enemy is our own government. Their primary purpose is to see how much they can take from us.


  180. 186 Savannah Guy September 19, 2008 at 10:46 pm

    Please trade Kelly Johnson this winter. He is so afraid of contact and unsure of himself he’ll never make a good player. Oh, he’ll have fits and starts and go on a one week hitting streak, but the core confidence is not there.


  181. 187 Savannah Guy September 19, 2008 at 10:48 pm

    Kelly was single handedly responsible for that 4 run inning. A missed in-glove catch at first and a spectator at second in the rundown. Pitiful.

    Tavares does good… until stuff like that happens. Then he completely loses it.



  182. 188 Savannah Guy September 19, 2008 at 10:50 pm

    CL is on a roll. Correct again… government should do what the people want, not dictate or make trillion dollar bailout deals without a vote. Bush is also an idiot.


  183. 189 Gil in Mechanicsville September 19, 2008 at 10:50 pm

    What never ceases to amaze me is whenever someone mentions taxing the rich and giving to the poor, I somehow find myself among the former rather than the latter much to my dismay. It is incredible how little someone can make and still be counted as wealthy…

    Now I know that given this bailout thing coming up is going to mean everyone is going to have to pay higher taxes and receive less. I fear that if the democrats win this fall, our military will be toast and our judicial system will be so skewed to the left that Lenin and Stalin will appear to be moderates…

    And baseball…. yikes… suddenly the ball has become radioactive… The season cannot end soon enough for the Braves I don’t think.


  184. 190 Gil in Mechanicsville September 19, 2008 at 10:56 pm

    Berigan… They had lots of different displays. A fellow had 2 ’57 Fords there which were absolutely cherry. One a Sunliner conv’ and a station wagon. I had a ’55 ragtop as well as a ’62. My dad owned a ’57 Ford that was a 2 dr HT that was very similar to the one I saw today. Lots of great memories came back for me when I looked at those cars.

    Not all that I can share on a family oriented blog…


  185. 191 Carolina Lady September 19, 2008 at 11:24 pm

    Something we badly need is term limits for both the House and the Senate. Even the best usually turn into greedy, power-mad cretins if they stay there long enough.

    Of course, there is a maverick now and then….. 😛

    There are positions of McCain’s that I don’t like – illegal immigration being #1. But considering the horrifying alternative…..

    Speaking of illegal immigration – the jobless rate is rapidly increasing. Who has those jobs now? I go by construction sites and see Latinos. Everywhere I look I see lawn maintenance workers – all Latinos. I’m now seeing companies with Latino names – Alvarez and Martinez Home Repairs or (for true!) Latino Taxis. More and more store fronts popping up with signs in Spanish. Where did they get the money to do this with?? When you pay no taxes, have free medical care, subsidized housing, etc etc etc, it probably wouldn’t take too long. Being a natural-born American citizen, I wouldn’t know about that. I resent my country being used as an ATM by a bunch of law breakers. And Pelosi’s Democrat-controlled Congress is passing a bill that will dramatically INCREASE the number of legal immigrants into the US, with annual increases. Just what we need. More people for fewer jobs. More immigrants on the dole.

    Did I leave anybody out? Surely there’s somebody I haven’t taken to task! 😆



  186. 192 flbravesgirl September 19, 2008 at 11:26 pm

    Bleh! Did that game look as bad as it sounded?

    Gil, that sounds a little like the festival they’re having here this weekend. Closed Main Street for a dance tonight & tomorrow they’re having food, storytelling, lots of contests- wood chopping, hog calling, gresed pig chase. Nostalgic stuff.


  187. 193 Carolina Lady September 19, 2008 at 11:40 pm

    Why parents drink

    The boss wondered why one of his most valued employees had not phoned in sick one day. Having an urgent problem with one of the main computers, he dialed the employee’s home phone number and was greeted with a child’s whisper.

    ‘Hello ? ‘

    ‘Is your daddy home?’ he asked.

    ‘Yes ,’ whispered the small voice.

    May I talk with him?’

    The child whispered, ‘No ‘

    Surprised and wanting to talk with an adult, the boss asked, ‘Is your Mommy there?’


    ‘May I talk with her?’

    Again the small voice whispered, ‘No .’

    Hoping there was somebody with whom he could leave a message, the boss asked, ‘Is anybody else there?’

    ‘Yes ,’ whispered the child, ‘ a policeman

    Wondering what a cop would be doing at his employee’s home, the boss asked, ‘May I speak with the policeman?’

    ‘No, he’s busy ‘, whispered the child.

    ‘Busy doing what?’

    ‘Talking to Daddy and Mommy and the Fireman ,’ came the whispered answer.

    Growing more worried as he heard a loud noise in the background through the earpiece on the phone, the boss asked, ‘What is that noise?’

    ‘A helicopter ‘ answered the whispering voice.

    ‘What is going on there?’ demanded the boss, now truly apprehensive.

    Again, whispering, the child answered, ‘The search team just landed a helicopter.’

    Alarmed, concerned and a little frustrated the boss asked, ‘What are they searching for?’

    Still whispering, the young voice replied with a muffled giggle… ‘ME.’


  188. 194 flbravesgirl September 20, 2008 at 12:20 am

    😯 You could subtitle that “1 more reason FBG is not having kids”. I’d never survive. I’m sure there are some people in this country whose kids are not atrocious little monsters but I haven’t met any of them.

    Gil, thanks for the hosta link. Looks like I’m doing it right so far.


  189. 195 Gil in Mechanicsville September 20, 2008 at 12:35 am

    For all her faults, one thing my mother could do was grow things. It did not seem to make any difference the season or conditions, she would plant or re-pot or whatever and it would grow. That used to drive my sister in law crazy as she was the “expert” on everything green…. Mom had two basic tenets,
    1. If you don’t plant it, it will not grow.

    2. You can tame just about anything if you feed it long enough.


  190. 196 Gil in Mechanicsville September 20, 2008 at 12:38 am

    I had planned for months to go to an auction sale being held tomorrow, after today’s excursion I just don’t think I have the energy. I think I will go to one being held Thursday instead. Too many alpha males on Saturdays,… Thursdays, not so much.. 🙂


  191. 197 Gil in Mechanicsville September 20, 2008 at 12:39 am

    Alrighty then… think I will call it a night, later folks…


  192. 198 Carolina Lady September 20, 2008 at 3:02 pm

    Where on earth IS everyone?? Did I miss a memo? Am I late?? Was I supposed to bring a covered dish?? 😯


  193. 199 Berigan ll, the worm turns September 20, 2008 at 4:00 pm

    New Blog is up!!!!


  194. 200 Berigan ll, the worm turns September 20, 2008 at 4:00 pm

    Ain’t I a stinka??? :mrgreen:


  195. 202 Berigan ll, the worm turns September 20, 2008 at 6:15 pm

    Well, going to a car cruise…eventually! Go Braves!!!

    Gil, sounded like some sweet cars yesterday!


  196. 203 Gil in Mechanicsville September 20, 2008 at 7:45 pm

    Howdy folks, busy day for me… Went to visit mom at the nursing home today. Finally, she had a smile instead of a frown. It has been tough but I think she has adjusted to the environment and the staff has adjusted to her…

    Great golf matches today too. And now time to watch the Braves try to spoil the Mets’ party. Too bad about Chipper but then it is not like it is going to be a big difference in the outcome of the game.


  197. 204 Gil in Mechanicsville September 20, 2008 at 10:11 pm

    And an enjoyable game tonight. The Braves played like a team tonight, good pitching, timely hitting, speed on the bases… Yep, Mutts lose…. 🙂

    And doesn’t Bennett look good when he is not trotted out every night to the point his arm is about to fall off?


  198. 205 flbravesgirl September 20, 2008 at 10:41 pm

    Good game tonight. Wish I didn’t feel so lousy, kinda dampened my enjoyment of it. Rabun County was a happenin’ place today- the Mountaineer Festival in downtown Clayton, a big wine-tasting at Tiger Mountain Vineyards & a classic car show at Hillside Orchard Farms.


  199. 206 Berigan ll, the worm turns September 20, 2008 at 10:53 pm

    FLB, what’s wrong????


  200. 207 flbravesgirl September 20, 2008 at 11:05 pm

    Just didn’t feel well tonight. It’s a bit better now.


  201. 208 flbravesgirl September 20, 2008 at 11:14 pm

    And congratulations to the Rays on clinching a playoff spot. I can’t quite believe it. They’d been so bad ’til this year.


  202. 209 Berigan ll, the worm turns September 21, 2008 at 1:03 am

    Glad you feel better. I felt pretty cruddy all day myself…
    Something else about the Rays, eh what?? You are not the only one not to believe it, as they still seem to have a half empty stadium most nights! 😛


  203. 210 Berigan ll, the worm turns September 21, 2008 at 1:04 am

    I meant to do 😕 , not 😛 , but I guess it works…..


  204. 211 Berigan ll, the worm turns September 21, 2008 at 1:06 am

    Francoeur to the Royals?
    By Sarah Green [September 20, 2008 at 4:06pm CST]

    Pure speculation here, but the Jeff Francoeur-to-the-Royals rumors continue. Joe Posnanski had a throwaway line in this post about “Jeff Francoeur, who I predict will be a Royal soon.” An eagle-eyed reader emailed Atlanta writer David O’Brien to ask if this was supposed to be a joke. O’Brien responded:

    “…that’s not tongue-in-cheek by Posnanski. As we’ve mentioned a few times, KC is the one team I wouldn’t be surprised to see Francoeur traded to, simply because of Dayton Moore and his long association with Francoeur. They remain friends who stay in contact, from my understanding. But more importantly, Dayton was here when the Braves drafted and developed Francoeur, and he’s going to have a lot better memory/impression of the player than other teams/GMs who’d just Francoeur on his performance slide and or what they’ve heard from scouts or through the grapevine…”

    Another potential factor favoring Francoeur in KC: though the right fielder has never managed to walk a lot in the big leagues (.312 OBP), the Royals don’t seem to value walks at all, anyway.

    Francoeur has gone from hometown favorite to disappointment in Atlanta—though to be fair to Frenchy, expectations could not have been higher. Perhaps he’s just another one of those top prospects who never pan out. But maybe the 24-year old would flourish away from an atmosphere that’s become toxic.

    Atlanta obviously has a long shopping list of things they’d like. So any ideas on what the Royals might be willing to part with?

    Sarah Green writes for the Boston Metro and UmpBump. http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2008/09/francoeur-to-th.html


  205. 212 Carolina Lady September 21, 2008 at 10:14 am

    Who do the Royals have that the Braves would want? I would hold on to Francoeur a bit longer; I think he’s going to come out of it.


  206. 213 Savannah Guy September 21, 2008 at 10:34 am

    That make three of us… I also felt pretty crappy yesterday. Moon? Bug?

    Speaking of bugs, there is a very ugly, mean, nasty, racist little bug over at the ajc. Cynthia Tucker has to be one of the angriest, most hating columnists in the country. Her personal attacks against all things conservative and her communist rants are what I’d expect from a fascist in Venezuela or Cuba, but to be given a columnist forum in an American newspaper is a not only a waste of ink and paper, it’s a virus that explains why the ajc is losing their readership.

    If you haven’t already seen her latest, check it out. Hold your nose…



  207. 214 Savannah Guy September 21, 2008 at 10:44 am

    Braves win, Mutts lose, Phillies win, Mutts lose…

    This is shaping up to be an important game today. Hope Bobby puts the best on the field to drive another nail in the Mutts season. Too bad Chipper isn’t going to get a last crack at the Mutts. May be his last chance to do that as a Brave.

    Wouldn’t a shot of cortisone into the shoulder get him back on the field? Then he could rest 3 or 4 games after that.


  208. 215 Gil in Mechanicsville September 21, 2008 at 11:02 am

    Actually, it takes a couple of days before a cortisone shot takes effect.

    On Tucker…. Well, she has counter parts all over the country who have similar platforms from which to spew their vitriol. The sad thing about the conservative agenda of George Bush is not the philosophy of it but in the execution of the details.

    Making credit a bit tighter would be a good thing for lots of folks. Perhaps with the bailout plan the government should just nationalize all the banks and forgive everyone’s debt and we can all start over with a clean slate…. Woo-hoo!!! Would that stimulate the economy or what??? Everyone would be rushing out to buy big screen TVs and new cars because they would have so much excess cash…. Yes, I know it doesn’t make any sense but neither does much of anything else proposed so far….


  209. 216 Gil in Mechanicsville September 21, 2008 at 11:07 am

    Want to really control spending? Get rid of all plastic money as well as paper money… Force everyone to pay for things in coins… Now that would slow you down… Of course you could revert to pay as you go… Now that’s radical….


  210. 217 Gil in Mechanicsville September 21, 2008 at 11:24 am

    Oh… That’s what the fed is trying to prevent… oops….


  211. 218 Savannah Guy September 21, 2008 at 11:35 am

    The sad thing about the conservative agenda of George Bush is not the philosophy of it but in the execution of the details.

    True and very well put.

    Want to control spending, cleanse the country of an unfair tax system and help the economy? Shut down the IRS, begin the ‘Fair Tax’ and let the chips fall where they may with all the lawyers and CPA’s that have been translating Greek for a living with tax/estate planning law and income tax forms. By “paying as we go”, those that spend the most will pay the most and those that don’t spend much aren’t taxed much. That, and illegal immigrants will cause a windfall of revenue to America.

    Then our country might even be able to afford to do something positive for us instead of spend all their time plotting ways to get deeper into our lives and our pockets. Fix a few roads, some bridges, some sewage systems and pay our brave troops a lot better.


  212. 219 Carolina Lady September 21, 2008 at 11:56 am

    It was the Democrat’s agenda that everybody had to have the opportunity to buy a house, whether they were employed or not, whether they could afford it or not, whether they had the credit or not. They forced the lending institutions to stop “discriminating” and extend credit to one and all. Now it’s time to pay the piper.

    The IRS is a gestapo organization which many times even refuses to follow court rulings when they are in favor of the taxpayer. 99% of it SHOULD be scrapped. Won’t happen. Too much industry built around it, they say. Well, the government spokesmen say that individual Americans need to retool themselves, learn other trades, etc and go into other segments of business. Why not the tax industry??

    Basically, our entire government is broken. It has become a self-serving behemoth that is crushing the people of the nation.


  213. 220 Savannah Guy September 21, 2008 at 12:58 pm

    CL… truth well told by you.

    Yes, the Dems were responsible for turning Fannie Mae into a social experiment to extend their socialist agenda into the financial markets. As it turns out, the greed of Wall Street, the irresponsibility of the overextended citizens, the ineptitude of the spineless politicians (both the Republicans and the Democrats) and the egomaniacs like Greenspan have created a perfect storm that will devastate our country and send inflationary shock waves into the future. The problem is systemic and touches everyone from the Atlantic to the Pacific.

    The socialists should be cheering the recent event (many are). Nationalized mortgage and real estate markets, nationalized insurance… health care and oil are next in their sites. The politicians like Chris Dodd, Obama (the two largest recipients of Fannie Mae campaign contributions) and Barney Frank will scream the loudest about the debacle.


  214. 221 Carolina Lady September 21, 2008 at 1:39 pm

    A former banker said it well:
    To hear today’s Democrats, you’d think all this started in the last couple years. But the crisis began much earlier. The Carter-era Community Reinvestment Act forced banks to lend to uncreditworthy borrowers, mostly in minority areas.

    Age-old standards of banking prudence got thrown out the window. In their place came harsh new regulations requiring banks not only to lend to uncreditworthy borrowers, but to do so on the basis of race.

    These well-intended rules were supercharged in the early 1990s by President Clinton. Despite warnings from GOP members of Congress in 1992, Clinton pushed extensive changes to the rules requiring lenders to make questionable loans.

    Failure to comply meant your bank might not be allowed to expand lending, add new branches or merge with other companies. Banks were given a so-called “CRA rating” that graded how diverse their lending portfolio was.

    In the name of diversity, banks began making huge numbers of loans that they previously would not have. They opened branches in poor areas to lift their CRA ratings.

    Meanwhile, Congress gave Fannie and Freddie the go-ahead to finance it all by buying loans from banks, then repackaging and securitizing them for resale on the open market.

    That’s how the contagion began.

    With those changes, the subprime market took off. From a mere $35 billion in loans in 1994, it soared to $1 trillion by 2008.

    Also, an excellent article here:

    Note the top beneficiaries – Dodd, Kerry, Obama, Clinton – even Pelosi is there.


  215. 222 Savannah Guy September 21, 2008 at 2:26 pm

    Good article CL. I’ve been listening to the Sunday political talk shows. Funny, in a sick way, to see Barney Frank and Chris Dodd out there adding their cover, uh, spin. If guilty, scream the loudest and talk the most to try and confuse everyone. A commonly used tactic by the left and the guilty (redundant?).

    Now, baseball. Appears Mutts are getting a little help from the umpires. By the way, does anyone know how may rally-killing DP’s Kotchman has hit into? Seems like he’s done that a lot in his short time in Atlanta. He was robbing French of those opportunities for a while there.

    Hate that Chipper isn’t in the game. Resting for the Phillies? My shoulder would have to hurt very bad to stay out of this game. Maybe it does… who knows. But there’s no reason to rest it and play the next series. Unless it hurts bad. Who knows. Parr is pitching like a AAA guy. He is a triple-A guy, so that’s fine for him, no so good for this crucial game. Playing Mutts spoiler is crucial. Right?


  216. 223 Savannah Guy September 21, 2008 at 2:27 pm

    A double by French!!??!! Bats in the Pelfrey? :mrgreen:


  217. 224 Carolina Lady September 21, 2008 at 4:35 pm

    Utterly amazing video: BigDog, The Most Advanced Quadruped Robot on Earth


  218. 225 Berigan ll, the worm turns September 21, 2008 at 4:47 pm

    Man, if you all aren’t watching the game, you are missing one hell of a comeback!!!


  219. 226 Berigan ll, the worm turns September 21, 2008 at 4:48 pm

    Bats in the Pelfrey?
    Pretty good SG!!!


  220. 227 Berigan ll, the worm turns September 21, 2008 at 4:50 pm

    Uh-oh….Degado just hit a 2 run homer, 7-6!!!! 😯


  221. 228 Berigan ll, the worm turns September 21, 2008 at 4:57 pm

    Braves win!!! Braves win!!! I knew it all along!! :mrgreen:


  222. 229 Berigan ll, the worm turns September 21, 2008 at 5:04 pm

    Frenchy, 3-4, 3 extra base hits….Let’s keep ’em!
    And Infante and Prado CAN start, I’d much rather see Prado up with the game on the line than KJ…


  223. 230 Savannah Guy September 21, 2008 at 5:43 pm

    WOW!!!!! What…..A……..GAME!!!

    That was edge of seat stuff there. French did good with his 3’fer 4. Even got Chipper in the game to pinch hit and contributed greatly but didn’t even have to swing the bat. Prado made them pay for the walk. Good thing too, turns out we needed all of those runs.

    Braves win, Mutts lose. Saaaawwweeeet. 😀


  224. 231 Savannah Guy September 21, 2008 at 5:46 pm

    Phils leading Fish 3-0 in the 5th.

    Hoping Mutts lose two today. 😆


  225. 232 Berigan ll, the worm turns September 21, 2008 at 5:52 pm

    It would be nice to see the Brewers sneak back in….
    Mutts are durn fools for not trading for another arm or two for their bullpen. They seem to be where we were a few years back…any ol’ arm will do. They are flat out wasting an excellent offensive. I could almost shed a tear…almost…


  226. 233 Gil in Mechanicsville September 21, 2008 at 6:54 pm

    Wow, I am exhausted, trying to watch four sporting events at the same time can really take it out of a couch potato….

    1. Braves game… great win, nice job by the pen to hold the Mets down, clutch hitting by Prado…

    2. NASCAR race at Dover… My guy Denny went out early but Josie’s driver, Jimmy Johnson, had a good day.

    3. Redskins pull out a victory over the Cardinals, I know it is no big thing for a lot of you but it’s been tough being a Washington fan of late…

    4. Great win today for the US in Ryder cup play… Glad folks could see some of the talented young players without being fixated on Tiger Woods… Some really great golf was played today by both sides.

    Now it’s Josie’s turn to control the remote.. 🙂


  227. 234 Salty September 21, 2008 at 8:32 pm

    Despite warnings from GOP members of Congress in 1992, Clinton pushed extensive changes to the rules requiring lenders to make questionable loans.

    Hmmm…now, I haven’t read the article so perhaps this was a typo. If not, well…Clinton wasn’t in office in ’92, merely elected late that year.


  228. 235 Savannah Guy September 21, 2008 at 10:23 pm

    Phils have sushi for dinner. Mutts slink away.


  229. 236 flbravesgirl September 21, 2008 at 11:14 pm

    Well, Gonzo didn’t have to make it quite that exciting in the 9th but that was a really fun game. I’d rather the Fish sneak in but the Phillies are preferable to the Mets.

    Imagine a World Series with some combo of Rays/Twins- Marlins/Brewers. The Fox executives would have to be talked down from their penthouse window ledges.


  230. 237 flbravesgirl September 21, 2008 at 11:42 pm

    I don’t know where Dad read it but apparently today’s flight was “rookie dress-up day”. Jair in a leopard-print dress & Jo-Jo in a sumo outfit (scary), etc.


  231. 238 Berigan ll, the worm turns September 22, 2008 at 1:05 am

    FLB, I heard the cute girl that talks to all the players post game(Can’t think of her name, don’t feel like googling right this sec! 😉 )talking about it. Sounds terrible…Jo-Jo is still a rookie??? guess so….perhaps he will be so mad, he will beat up on the Phillies!!!


  232. 239 Carolina Lady September 22, 2008 at 9:03 am

    United We Stand – written and sung by Marcus Lloyd


  233. 240 Gil in Mechanicsville September 22, 2008 at 2:59 pm

    Howdy Braves fans… Slow day on the old B&S blog it appears.. Actually, it is a bit slow on all the blogs. Does this mean we have “jumped the shark” on blogging? Too many other things to worry about I guess.

    Last week of the season for the Bravos and it seems as if it could not come soon enough for most. Perhaps the Atlanta organization can get through the healing process without too many setbacks.

    I would like to see Smoltz and Glavin return for one last hurrah but my advice to Frank Wren is to stock up on pitching during the off season. Whatever the cost. We have seen that far too often players do not return on schedule and easily have a reversal in fortunes. To me it is something akin to “your check is in the mail”…


  234. 241 Voice of Raisins September 22, 2008 at 3:29 pm

    Hey, everyone.

    I am trying to catch up on work, else I’d be around. As the season is winding to a close, I am wondering who we are seeing in their Braves uni for the last time.

    Perhaps that is a topic for my upcoming lead… 🙄


  235. 242 Salty September 22, 2008 at 4:16 pm

    Draw your own conclusions…well written, and not inconsistent with what’s been spoken the past couple of weeks. Hopefully, not filter-bound!



  236. 243 Salty September 22, 2008 at 4:17 pm

    As suspected….HELP!!!! THE CENSOR GOT ME!!!! 😡


  237. 244 Savannah Guy September 22, 2008 at 4:37 pm

    As the season is winding to a close, I am wondering who we are seeing in their Braves uni for the last time.

    A Raisins report from the locker room? Oh, mercy. Take towels to, uh, cover.

    Salty, it must be your browser or server firewall or something for you to get clogged so much in the filter… or just using lots of &%@$ expletives deleted?



  238. 245 Berigan ll, the worm turns September 22, 2008 at 4:51 pm

    Greetings stuffians! The blog was as busy as it’s been in months last week, so I guess a slow down is to be expected…

    I tell you what, it will be interesting to see how “we” play the last 6 games. What we saw against the mets was what we haven’t seen pretty much all year. Timely hitting, running when the opponent doesn’t expect you. Just played with more energy.

    Also, did I notice something with Frenchy, that I haven’t noticed before??? I noticed on the 3 hits, that his bat came back right on top of his left shoulder….which I never really paid attention to before, but it looked like something he did much more back when he was hitting with authority…Has he done this this season on hits, or not???


  239. 246 Berigan ll, the worm turns September 22, 2008 at 4:53 pm

    Heres a story that will be the top story on all the networks…or not….

    Smear videos against Palin linked to Obama campaign


  240. 247 Carolina Lady September 22, 2008 at 5:10 pm

    Thanks for the article, Salty!! I did a Google search on Franklin Raines to see what I could find out about him. Most interesting: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Franklin_Raines

    “…former chairman and chief executive officer of Fannie Mae who served as White House budget director under President Bill Clinton. He currently advises the Barack Obama presidential campaign on economic matters.”

    Note that he raked in multi-millions from Fannie Mae – $20m in one year alone (2003).


    “Central to the Raines accounting scandal was a strategy to “cook the books” of Fannie Mae to show the type of earnings that would trigger hundreds of millions of bonuses to Raines and other key Fannie Mae executives.

    When the scandal surfaced, Raines resigned from Fannie Mae in December 2004, with a $19 million severance package, according to the Associated Press.

    The Raines scandal surfaced in 2004 when charges Fannie Mae accounting manager Roger Barnes had been making since 1999 surfaced. He said Fannie Mae had been manipulating its earnings through “cookie jar” accounting to justify payment of hundreds of millions of dollars in bonuses to top executives.

    In his 26-page testimony before OFHEA, Barnes detailed multiple Fannie Mae deviations for Generally Accepted Accounting Practices, or GAAP, and his repeated efforts to bring these irregularities to a wide range of Fannie Mae managers and executives, all without positive result.

    Barnes said he left Fannie Mae in October 2003 because he felt “forced out” once it excluded him from working on the OFHEA investigation.”

    Didn’t the Enron people go to prison for doing that same stuff?


  241. 248 Carolina Lady September 22, 2008 at 5:21 pm

    Excellent article:

    “Senator Chris Dodd — formerly ranking member and now chairman of the Senate Banking Committee, with oversight over Freddie and Fannie..” Lessee – who was it that was #1 on campaign contributions received from Fannie and Freddie? Oh, that would be Sen. Christopher Dodd, Democrat. What conflict of interest?


  242. 249 Salty September 22, 2008 at 5:32 pm

    Didn’t the Enron people go to prison for doing that same stuff?

    All but the ones who died or committed suicide. 😕


  243. 250 Carolina Lady September 22, 2008 at 5:34 pm

    I wanta sue somebody! 😡


  244. 251 Gil in Mechanicsville September 22, 2008 at 5:36 pm

    Sigh…. So much information, so few to heed the word… Now baseball… I am watching the new shows tonight. I will catch the recaps of the game later. Too many frustrated nights already given to this team this season. And less news watching too… I am being overwhelmed by the endless array of talking heads on the cable news channels.

    Beautiful day here and a nice start to fall. Truly my favorite time of year. And planning started for Josie’s and my next cruise… Uh.. that is if we have any money left after Wall Street and Washington get thru with my investments… 😦


  245. 253 Savannah Guy September 22, 2008 at 6:03 pm

    It is disgusting, disheartening, dumbfounding and a downright dereliction of duty, not to mention a damnable economic disaster, to see the mainstream media turn their dimwitted heads to let the dastardly Dems get away with the demoralizing debt debacle we’re seeing today. (one sentence with fourteen ‘d’ words… new blog record?)

    But it’s true, despite all the D’s. It ain’t just Wall Street greed and irresponsible citizens ready for freebies that have caused this, it’s mainly politicians that were in oversight positions like Dodd, Frank, Raines, Rangle and Clinton. The social engineering of Fannie and the banks started with Panama-Peanut Carter. Hey, it’s not just the Dems either. Bush has been hiding in the oval office since the financial earthquake struck. I really don’t think he’s handled this well at all. Not surprising… when the good ol’ boys need cover he’s there for them.

    The biased media, the socialist Dems and the spineless, enabling Republicans should be calling for heads and Congressional investigations in the Fanniegate, Freddiegate, Bankgate, Dollargate, Oilgate, AIGgate, Wall Steetgate and Congressional-Graftgate.

    Instead, we’re overrun with Mommygate, Troopergate and Alaskan Bridgegate.

    Nothing has changed. We’re in a national crisis and headed for ‘hyper-inflation’ and the politicians will continue to lie through their teeth, posture, campaign for themselves, seek power at every turn, cover for themselves and their partisan hacks and do nothing except exacerbate the problem.

    Whew… sigh. I need water.


  246. 254 Savannah Guy September 22, 2008 at 6:15 pm

    Ben Stein has a good suggestion for President Bush:

    Stein says he’d like to see President Bush on national TV “with Mr. Obama to his left and Mr. McCain to his right and say we are going to make sure that you Americans are going to stop being looted by Wall Street.”

    But don’t hold your breath waiting for that to happen… sounds too proactive.

    Give’em hell, Ben.


  247. 255 Savannah Guy September 22, 2008 at 6:46 pm

    Guess who’s gonna bail out Wall Street, the banks and the politicos…

    First we’ll get this…

    <a href=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=87yq372R4Ts rel=”nofollow”Then we could do this…

    or take it a bit further…

    we must remember…

    Don’t tread On Me!

    Ahh… I’m done. That was fun. Hope you enjoy the musical lesson today. 😀


  248. 256 Savannah Guy September 22, 2008 at 6:48 pm

    Whoopsie daisy… try again:

    Then we could do this…


  249. 257 Berigan ll, the worm turns September 22, 2008 at 7:28 pm

    Man, go away for a few hours(Phone call) and you all post like crazy…now, you all will all be gone for the night! 😡

    If I could be unbiased for just a sec…it’s just sad that what’s going on now is just being used to bash the other side, with no blame falling on whatever side “you” are on.

    Of course, we all know what side deserves the majority of the blame! 😛 I said, unbiased for a sec…

    But, seriously, it would be nice to see people join together to fight these criminals, like SG talked about….it would also be nice to flap my arms and fly….it’s as likely as Bush, Obama and McCain working as one…


  250. 258 Salty September 22, 2008 at 7:44 pm

    Just a li’l story:

    I asked my friend’s little girl what she wanted to be when she grows up. She said she wanted to be President some day.

    Both of her parents, liberal Democrats, were standing there, so I asked her,
    ‘If you were President what would be the first thing you would do?’

    She replied, ‘I’d give food and houses to all the homeless people.’

    ‘Wow…what a worthy goal.’ I told her, ‘You don’t have to wait until you’re President to do that. You can come over to my house and mow, pull weeds, and sweep my yard, and I’ll pay you $50.

    Then I’ll take you over to the grocery store where the homeless guy hangs out, and you can give him the $50 to use toward food and a new house.’

    She thought that over for a few seconds while her Mom glared at me, then she looked me straight in the eye and asked, ‘Why doesn’t the homeless guy come over and do the work, and you can just pay him the $50?’

    I said, ‘Welcome to the Republican Party.’


  251. 259 Savannah Guy September 22, 2008 at 8:11 pm

    Whoops, Berigan’s here… gotta go.


  252. 261 Savannah Guy September 22, 2008 at 8:12 pm

    Hey Salty, that’s a great story. I’m gonna steal that’un.


  253. 262 Voice of Raisins September 22, 2008 at 8:24 pm




  254. 263 Voice of Raisins September 22, 2008 at 8:27 pm

    And Francoeur with yet another hit… Just can’t get that guy out, huh? :mrgreen:


  255. 264 Berigan ll, the worm turns September 22, 2008 at 9:35 pm

    Salty, that’s a great story!!!
    SG, I wasn’t even here! Ha! 😛


  256. 265 Savannah Guy September 22, 2008 at 9:48 pm

    Another quality start by Jair. He’s gotta be ROY bound.

    Mutts are losing 8-4 in the 8th. A Mutts loss makes a Braves loss not only easier, but for now, just fine and dandy. After the Phils we can win the rest and end the year on a high note.


  257. 266 Savannah Guy September 22, 2008 at 9:50 pm

    Was hoping for a HR replay there on that McCann hit. Looked out to me but not sure.


  258. 267 flbravesgirl September 22, 2008 at 10:06 pm

    Aside from the unpleasantness with the bullpen, that was a good game. Good work from Jair . And Kelly Johnson now has the longest hitting streak of the year in the NL?!? Where did that come from?


  259. 268 Berigan ll, the worm turns September 22, 2008 at 10:14 pm

    FLB, I think Kelly has pinch hit twice to extend the streak as well….still think we need to trade him. Cards need a second baseman, AZ, Oakland I think…building his value, thanks KJ!


  260. 269 flbravesgirl September 22, 2008 at 10:38 pm

    He’s not really a second baseman though. Although Uggla made the AllStar Game & he’s atrocious at 2nd.


  261. 270 Berigan ll, the worm turns September 22, 2008 at 11:10 pm

    Kelly hit 16 homers in 2007, 12 this year. That might work for some teams, but is that enough power for us next year in left??? Of course, more power than we have had this year….If we somehow could get CC(and from what I am reading, he really likes hitting, and would really, really be blown away by an offer by the Yanks) then perhaps we should consider KJ in left…but….I just don’t think that’s near enough offense, and the most likely position we can get improvement from….


  262. 271 Berigan ll, the worm turns September 22, 2008 at 11:15 pm

    I meant to say he’d have to be blown away by the Yankees offer…
    I wonder who might be interested in CC in the NL??? Mets??? They keep talking cheap, but if they collapse again, they are going to have to sign some free agents…Who else is going to pay crazy money for him?? Cubs??? Got a lot of moola tied up. Cards would never pay it. Dodgers are pretending to be a small market team.
    Who knows, me might have a better chance than I was thinking weeks ago, if he is serious about remaining in the NL.
    He’d give the bullpen a day of rest every 5 days, which could be huge….


  263. 272 Gil in Mechanicsville September 23, 2008 at 12:21 am

    Bad Karma… That’s got to be the reason the Braves are having such a down year… Pay back for all those division championships…


  264. 273 Voice of Raisins September 23, 2008 at 8:02 am

    It’s Tuesday… Leo day on the radio…


  265. 274 Salty September 23, 2008 at 8:19 am

    Hey Salty, that’s a great story. I’m gonna steal that’un.

    Uh, uh….borrow…which is what I did! 😆

    I have no problem with KJ in left next year…I’m not keen on him as a 2-sacker. I’d rather he learn first base if he’s to remain on clay…and I’m scarcely sold on that prospect.


  266. 275 Voice of Raisins September 23, 2008 at 8:19 am

    Leo story about pitching now as opposed to pitching then:

    Early 90’s, Avery’s on the mound against the Mets and Jose Vizcaino hit a 1st inning homer off of him and proceeded to trot very slowly around the bases in a very celebratory fashion. On Vizcaino’s next at bat, Avery drilled him in the knee with the first pitch and yelled at him, “Dance now!”



  267. 276 Voice of Raisins September 23, 2008 at 8:27 am

    Quite honestly, if KJ’s offense were more consistent, there would be no discussion about a position change, and he’d be our favorite 2nd sacker. His defense is no worse than many 2B’s. We as Braves fans, though, are used to great defense from both SS and 2B, given the Braves typical mantra of pitching and defense up the middle. The Braves have had neither good pitching nor good defense up the middle. I like KJ, but am an advocate of trading him if the return is pitching. I’d like to see Lilly the Kid get a shot at 2B, personally. Escobar, Lilly and Anderson/Schafer gives you good defense up the middle. Now, if only we can find pitching… 🙄


  268. 277 Carolina Lady September 23, 2008 at 9:02 am

    Wonder if Hubby can still….. never mind.

    His stats still impress the daylights out of me! 😀


  269. 278 Carolina Lady September 23, 2008 at 9:04 am

    Love the Avery story, Raisins! He had more fire than I ever suspected!

    Got more Leo stories??


  270. 279 Carolina Lady September 23, 2008 at 9:05 am

    What is the avatar? I think I can make out the word ‘Mets’….


  271. 280 Voice of Raisins September 23, 2008 at 9:06 am

    Yesterday was awful…

    I took my son back to the doc after 3 weeks of arm immobilization (crack in growth plate in left elbow) expecting him to be released back to football having missed only 3 games. Instead, he was sentenced to 3 more weeks in a sling and standing on the sidelines. He was devastated. He’ll now hopefully make it back for only the last regular season game and any playoffs. 😡

    Also, Munson retired… effective immediately. We didn’t even get the opportunity to know and listen to his last call. 😥


  272. 281 Carolina Lady September 23, 2008 at 9:07 am

    The real story behind Biden’s helicopter making an ’emergency’ landing in Afghanistan – if anyone cares –


  273. 282 Voice of Raisins September 23, 2008 at 9:08 am

    The avatar is a “Mets Choke” picture. It just doesn’t show up very well. I may rethink it…


  274. 283 Carolina Lady September 23, 2008 at 9:19 am

    “These two entities — Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac — are not facing any kind of financial crisis. The more people exaggerate these problems, the more pressure there is on these companies, the less we will see in terms of affordable housing.” Rep. Barney Frank of Massachusetts, the ranking Democrat on the Financial Services Committee, in response to Bush Administration proposals in 2003 for a bank-like regulator for Fannie and Freddie, New York Times, 9/11/03.


  275. 284 Voice of Raisins September 23, 2008 at 9:32 am

    One more Leo story:

    The Braves finished the ’90 season in San Fran with their 97th loss. Prior to the team exiting the dugout at game’s end, Bobby called Leo and his rotation aside to talk to them. His rotation at the end of ’90 was Tom Glavine, John Smoltz, Steve Avery, Pete Smith and Charlie Liebrandt. Bobby told them that they were going to be his starters in 1991, and that they should prepare in the offseason with that in mind. He told them the only thing they should worry about entering spring training was being ready to go every 5 days. Nothing more, nothing less.

    Leo said he had never heard of a manager doing that before or since, but he felt that it had an unmeasurable effect on the psyche of every one of those pitchers entering 1991.


  276. 285 Gil in Mechanicsville September 23, 2008 at 9:52 am

    The perfect storm… Leo, Bobby and Jimy… 🙂


  277. 286 Savannah Guy September 23, 2008 at 10:26 am

    Great stories Rasins. Love those Leo stories.

    Now, for some stuff. CL, that was a good clip from Barney “boys and girls can use my apartment” Frank. It’s really incredible what these people do and get away with because it never gets reported in the mainstream media.

    Here’s the thing: we ARE seeing the destruction of America as we know it and a methodical disassembling of our Constitution. The citizens are either too busy to pay attention, too brainwashed by the biased media, too greedy about their own self-interests, too damn lazy to pay attention, too apathetic and numb to become outraged or simply too ignorant to see all of the evidence.

    The fall of Rome was not unique to civilization. Ignorance and apathy are rampant. “We will destroy you from within”. Tell a lie often enough and it becomes the truth. And other such truths we don’t like to consider.

    Anyway Carolina Lady, you’ve inspired me. I’ll suggest a new depository for comments like the one Barney Frank. Yes, from the pursed lips of Barney “I didn’t know my, uh, gentleman friend, um, roommate was using my apartment as a brothel” Frank.

    The depository is for those telling little truths of reality, gathered together in one place for the viewing pleasure of even the most acutely attention deficit among us. If the citizenry described above don’t get the facts for whatever reason or didn’t see the actual quotes of people that are changing the course of this country and the world, we can simply spoon feed it to them in brief little snippets. It’s actual quotes or clips, straight from the horses mouth. It’s documented, undeniable truth in a little box, as it were. Only actual words should be there… no opinions of out of context stuff. The unvarnished truth.

    We could call it something like, “From The Horses Mouth”.

    Now, after the Barney quote, I’ll throw in the second official entry into the collection from a clip that came in just a little while ago:

    “Secretary General Ban Ki-moon invited a small group of the ad industry’s top executives to U.N. headquarters for a chat. He wants the world’s largest advertising holding companies to assist the U.N. in mounting a sustained advertising campaign about the dangers of global warming.”

    Watch the 3-minute video and see for yourself. It is obvious that the corrupt UN and the buffoon Ki-Moon think that Americans are complete idiots. Listen to what he’s saying there. Half-truths and outright lies. He even unwittingly admits that warming is a “terrible cycle”. Whoops… didn’t mean that, did he?

    Sad thing is, as many as half of our citizens believe that Global Warming (with initial caps… it’s a Gore brand now) is caused by man. This is not science, it is a way for the lefties in this country and the UN and those countries that want to bring America down and tax us into oblivion. It’s not about warming, that’s just a ‘convenient untruth’ to push the socialist agenda. It has nothing to do with climatology or meteorology… it’s a natural, cyclical phenomenon. Global Warming ala Al Gore and the UN is about social change and redistribution of wealth and global power. It is global but it’s not about weather.

    Enough opinion and commentary. Just read for yourself:

    From The Horse’s Mouth

    UN Chief Seeks Ad Industry Help In Global Warming.

    I really hope none of the worldwide agencies don’t accept this advertising (propaganda) campaign so ineptly presented by the buffoon. But some probably will, for the all too common reason of self-interest, global business development and greed.


  278. 287 Salty September 23, 2008 at 10:39 am

    It is obvious that the corrupt UN and the buffoon Ki-Moon think that Americans are complete idiots.

    1. The UN is located in this country
    2. We allow assemblage of many leaders whose expressed or implied mission is our downfall
    3. We fund more of the UN operations than any other nation
    4. Americans shed more blood in some of those countries than did their own citizens, and springing forth from their new-found freedom, they resort to #2, above
    5. Many of the UN members both expect the US to rescue them from whatever malady/affliction/insurrection exists in their nation, all the while blaming us as well.

    The ‘unbuttered’ reality: perhaps they’re right?


  279. 288 Salty September 23, 2008 at 10:41 am

    And, in our own ‘backyard’…Russia and Venezuela. Who’s comfortable with that situation? Actually, who finds it absolutely intolerable?


  280. 289 Savannah Guy September 23, 2008 at 10:59 am

    Salty, yep… on all. Putin’s Russia is an evil empire that is once again flexing it’s muscle around the world and now they’re setting up shop with an evil dictator Chavez. Another Cuban missile crisis?

    Do we have the leadership in this country to face down Putin, manage this potential crisis and solve the problem of an arms buildup in Venezuala? Will Bush look into Putin’s eyes again and see a friendly, trusting soul again?

    We shall see.


  281. 290 Berigan ll, the worm turns September 23, 2008 at 11:05 am

    Obama will save the day! He will tell everyone that Venezuela is a tiny country, smaller than Russia!

    Do you all know that Hezbollah is in Venezuela as well???? Big deal, right???


  282. 291 Salty September 23, 2008 at 11:06 am

    Like him or not, Paulson’s passion and sense of urgency was real. He didn’t speak as a politician, rather as one who understands the reality and the critical need for action. Not unlike needing to take medicine you intensely dislike, but failing to do so is……not good.


  283. 292 Savannah Guy September 23, 2008 at 11:07 am

    From the wonderful folks that brought you Fannie, Freddie, AIG and inflation:

    Washington — The penny, America’s most derided coin, is getting a facelift next year. The U.S. Mint unveiled four new designs Monday honoring President Abraham Lincoln at a ceremony on the National Mall.

    Well, I feel better already. Now we can have some new jingle in our step since that paper money is shrinking like a 401K.


  284. 293 Savannah Guy September 23, 2008 at 11:08 am

    He will tell everyone that Venezuela is a tiny country, smaller than Russia! 😆


  285. 294 Berigan ll, the worm turns September 23, 2008 at 11:13 am

    Amazingly, a member of the mainstream media gave the chosen one just a wee bit of grief. Matt Lauer is to be commended(for once) but, he will get the cold shoulder from Obama and his disciples from now on….

    Obama on Biden’s Initial Opposition to AIG Bailout: “Joe Should Have Waited”
    September 23, 2008 9:41 AM

    “What has been clear during this entire past ten days is John McCain has not had clarity and a grasp on the situation,” Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., told NBC’s Matt Lauer in an interview that ran this morning.

    Lauer was talking about how Obama hit Sen. McCain for flip-flopping on the AIG bailout — saying he opposed it one day then announce he supported it the next day.

    But, as Lauer pointed out, scarcely three minutes after McCain said he opposed the AIG bailout last week, “in an interview with Meredith Vieira, Joe Biden, your running mate was asked the exact same question, ‘should the federal government bailout AIG?’ And he said, ‘No, the federal government should not bailout AIG.'” (As we noted at the time.) “And I think that in that situation,” Obama said, “I think Joe should have waited as well.”

    “But it’s the kind of thing that drives people crazy about politics,” Lauer said. “It sounds like you were trying to score some political points against John McCain using his words, when your own running mate had used very similar words.”

    “No, hold on a second Matt,” Obama said. “I think what drives people crazy about politics is the fact that somebody like John McCain who for 26 years has been an advocate for deregulation, for 26 years has said the market is king and then starts going out there suggesting somehow that he’s a populist who’s been railing against Wall Street and regulation — that’s what drives people crazy about politics.”

    — jpt



  286. 295 Berigan ll, the worm turns September 23, 2008 at 11:18 am

    V, thanks for the Leo stuff! Avery never seemed that intense, but to be as great as he was for a few years, I guess you have to be!!!


  287. 297 Savannah Guy September 23, 2008 at 11:42 am

    Does Raisins have the Leo story about when he visited the mound during a game and Avery was not very pleased to see him? Avery was a firebrand… and a warrior.

    Too bad he got the dead arm. Otherwise he could’ve been a HOF guy.


  288. 298 Berigan ll, the worm turns September 23, 2008 at 11:50 am

    Ok, you have to read this to believe this!!!! And after this I shall lay off the politics for a few hours(gotta sleep!)

    imagine, just imagine if Governor Palin said something so dumb!!!!

    the Quote….

    “When the stock market crashed, Franklin Roosevelt got on the television and didn’t just talk about the princes of greed. He said, ‘look, here’s what happened.'”


    what the ___??? is he 12??? Stock market crashed several years before Roosevelt became president, and I am pretty sure he wasn’t on TV in 1929 no matter what!!!!

    Clearly, he is not fit to be VP! 😛


  289. 299 Salty September 23, 2008 at 12:12 pm

    Circa 1929:

    Did you watch TV today?

    What’s ‘TV’?


  290. 300 Savannah Guy September 23, 2008 at 12:35 pm

    Bumbling Biden. He should have known that back in 1929 many homes didn’t even have electricity. They had to watch TV with candles and flashlights. :mrgreen:


  291. 301 Carolina Lady September 23, 2008 at 12:40 pm

    Ignorance repeated = most of what too many Americans accept as fact, exacerbated by laziness and lack of interest. It’s better to flop on the couch and watch reruns of some stupid TV show.


  292. 302 Carolina Lady September 23, 2008 at 1:01 pm

    Katie Couric: “Polls show that Sen. McCain and Sarah Palin are making inroads among white female voters who are less educated,” Couric told the candidate (Biden).


  293. 303 Carolina Lady September 23, 2008 at 1:05 pm

    a clip from Jon Stewart’s “The Daily Show” back in 2005 where Biden said:

    “I would be honored to run with or against John McCain because I think the country would be better off.”

    The clip from Biden on Obama came a little over a year ago comes from ABC’s “This Week” – back when Biden was still running for President.

    It features moderator George Stephanopolous saying to Sen. Biden:

    You were asked if he [Obama] was ready. You said, “I think he can be ready but right now I don’t believe he is. The presidency is not something that lends itself to on-the-job training.”


  294. 304 Savannah Guy September 23, 2008 at 2:38 pm

    Biden wanted to run with him before deciding to run against him.

    Familiar ring to that. Very Kerry of him.


  295. 305 Voice of Raisins September 23, 2008 at 2:39 pm

    Politicians are like diapers. They both need changing regularly and for the same reason. ~Author Unknown


  296. 306 Voice of Raisins September 23, 2008 at 2:42 pm

    Politics is the art of looking for trouble, finding it whether it exists or not, diagnosing it incorrectly, and applying the wrong remedy. ~Ernest Benn


  297. 307 Voice of Raisins September 23, 2008 at 2:43 pm

    Politicians are people who, when they see light at the end of the tunnel, go out and buy some more tunnel. ~John Quinton


  298. 308 Voice of Raisins September 23, 2008 at 2:46 pm

    There are always too many Democratic congressmen, too many Republican congressmen, and never enough U.S. congressmen. ~Author Unknown


  299. 309 Voice of Raisins September 23, 2008 at 2:48 pm

    Politics is the gentle art of getting votes from the poor and campaign funds from the rich, by promising to protect each from the other. ~Oscar Ameringer


  300. 310 Voice of Raisins September 23, 2008 at 2:49 pm

    I have come to the conclusion that politics is too serious a matter to be left to the politicians. ~Charles de Gaulle


  301. 311 Voice of Raisins September 23, 2008 at 2:52 pm

    All politicians suck. I don’t like any of them. They all lie and screw the American people for the benefit of their respective party. The difference is in the degree of screwing. I believe Obama will screw us worse than McCain, but we’ll get screwed nonetheless. ~Voice of ReasonRaisins


  302. 312 Voice of Raisins September 23, 2008 at 2:53 pm



  303. 313 Savannah Guy September 23, 2008 at 3:05 pm

    Hear, hear, Raisins. I like yours best! 😀


  304. 314 Savannah Guy September 23, 2008 at 3:09 pm

    “There’s no trick to being a humorist when you have the whole government working for you.”

    “This country has come to feel the same when Congress is in session as when the baby gets hold of a hammer.”

    Will Rogers


  305. 315 Savannah Guy September 23, 2008 at 5:06 pm

    A Public Notice

    Dear Citizens of Stuffville,

    Your beloved government, uh, country is in a financial crisis, as you all know, even if you do live in a bible-thumping, gun-toting, right-wing leaning, backward little town. Just let us say, on behalf of the new United Socialist States of Amerika, we won’t hold that against you. It must be a back woods thing, but we can understand because we saw Deliverance.

    That’s fine if you currently have those bad religious and capitalist habits and inclinations. We can provide you with free re-education classes (mandatory). In the meantime we can work around those problems and call upon the elite, uh, smart people in New York, Washington DC, San Francisco and Hollywood to think us through this time in our nation. So don’t worry. Our plan is to eliminate the need for you to think and make your life easier. Isn’t that great! Just think… no more need for those pesky thoughts about complicated issues like money, healthcare, food, education and polluting individual automobiles.

    Anyway, we’d like for you all to send us your part of the $700 billion we need so we can fix the economy and get us all out of this financial crisis. We’re not sure about how we’re going do that or where your money will wind up being used or even if our bailout plan works (when we do get a plan), but we are sure you’re all just happy and proud to comply. Besides, we can’t have all those bankers and fat cats selling their mansions and yachts now can we? Wouldn’t be right. Besides, they line our pockets, uh, support our country. They are patriots.

    Oh, and we can’t promise that we’ll only need the $700 billion… could be a Trillion. But who cares because we have so many new departments and programs to fund, so many state and federal employees to give raises to, so many new social programs to pay for and so many of your to indoctrinate. The media and PR propaganda costs alone will be staggering.

    Not to worry, all of your investment in your government is intended to take care of all your troubles… especially since we all know that you are incapable of making decisions for yourselves.

    Just think of us as your big brother. We will watch over you and take good care of all your needs. We just ask that you comply with where we want you to live, what you eat, where you go, when to return to your homes, where you work, how much you work, who you are assigned to talk to, which doctor you visit, what you are taught in school and what you may say in public.

    We further promise to separate church and state for you. God will henceforth be removed from all public and private places under penalty of law.

    So you know and just to be honest with you citizens, you will probably never see a nickel of our, uh, your donated, uh, tax money again, but we’re sure you are all good patriots and can suck it up for the good of the politburo, uh, your ever mindful, ever caring, ever watching government.

    So, please comply as soon as possible so that we won’t have to get our sister organization, the IRS, involved to seek you out. By next Monday, send or deliver your real estate titles, your insurance cards, savings account numbers, full name and family history in triplicate and 75% of your money to your closest bank (they have kindly agreed to work with us).

    Today only, we are offering a bonus reward system for informing us of any relative, neighbor or friend that is hiding cash, guns or bibles, religious crosses, pendants or any other illegal religious or taxable contraband. The Koran and Muslim symbols will be allowed so that they don’t feel threatened in our friendly country.

    Your cooperation and your tips that help us find lawbreakers will be greatly appreciated and rewarded. It’s exciting to be a part of such change, isn’t it? We are certain you will comply, uh, agree.

    Change has come at long last. We look forward to being served by you.


    Your beloved Senate and Congress Member
    Southern Quadrant Committee of the Nationalization and Socialization Project

    USSA – a subsidiary of the United Nations


  306. 316 Salty September 23, 2008 at 5:13 pm

    SG=’Son of Orwell’ :mrgreen:


  307. 317 TennesseePaul September 23, 2008 at 5:34 pm

    Berigan: Nice article. I’m really looking forward to the off-season. Wren is a new man on this stage. After a decade and a half of watching JS work the unknown of Wren is interesting to watch.

    CL and others, my hand is to be freed from the plaster trap tomorrow morning. I really can’t wait. I will not be able to post immediately after as I must go through physical theropy and scent detox. Man this thing is putting out something fierce.
    I’ve been limited in posting, but not in reading. It has been easier to post Missives when I have considerable time to type them out than it has been to blog continuously. I found that I’d be horrindously behind on topics making a conversation practically impossible. So I stuck with one-n-dones.
    Other than that things are going well on this front. Changes are coming for me personally and I’m curious as to where they will lead.

    CL, blogrolls are what I hear get traffic moving (looks like you have quite the list too, is it helping?). But the whole blog managing thing is fairly new to me so I don’t really know. Wish I had more info for ya. I’m not much for tooting my own horn so advertising isn’t a line of work I’m particularly good at. And with that said I’ll sheepishly point to the link under my name. Love it if you clicked by.

    Keep up the good work guys. I’ll stop in more frequently once the fingers start moving properly.


  308. 318 Gil in Mechanicsville September 23, 2008 at 7:13 pm

    SG… You sound like a true disciple of Brother Dave Gardner… It would be even more humorous were it not so close to the truth…

    Now, I have re-access my own financial portfolio and have determined if everyone to whom I owe money (as is possible in a melt down) I will still be to the good. That said, I think I can out last the banks because I can still eat. I won’t have to go anywhere so gas will be no problem. I have lots of unread books so no need for the internet… Oh my, it just might be the good old days are right around the corner…


  309. 319 Gil in Mechanicsville September 23, 2008 at 7:15 pm

    10-Paul…. Good to see you back again.. 🙂


  310. 320 Berigan ll, the worm turns September 23, 2008 at 7:17 pm

    10 Paul, thanks for the kind words! Man, you typed all them words with just one hand??? that’s pretty impressive!
    We will hold you to coming around more often!!!


  311. 321 Gil in Mechanicsville September 23, 2008 at 7:17 pm

    And the it is perfect baseball weather here. That hint of coolness that puts a spring in your step.. And a nor-east’r is headed my way by tomorrow…


  312. 322 TennesseePaul September 23, 2008 at 7:52 pm

    Berigan: Actually 1 hand and 3 fingers. It still takes a while though.


  313. 323 Carolina Lady September 23, 2008 at 8:10 pm

    Hey, TnPaul!!! Loved your site and enjoyed reading! Left a note, but messed up on the web address.. sigh ….

    REALLY happy that you’re making good progress with you hand! Bet it seems a lifetime that you’ve been dealing with it.



  314. 324 Savannah Guy September 23, 2008 at 8:13 pm

    Hey TPaul. Broken hand? Typing with one hand and three fingers? Are you saying people are ‘spozed to use more than that when typing?

    Strange ajc article on Hank Aaron and Bobby Cox by who else… Terence Moore. Very odd, unnecessary, racial undertones and angst filled. Moore does that well.

    What’s the real agenda here?


  315. 325 Savannah Guy September 23, 2008 at 8:22 pm

    TPaul, I just noticed that you mentioned a website. Went looking, found it, read enough to be interested, bookmarked it for later when I can sit still for a bit.

    Although it looks like a political site and a political post, I’ll still venture in. But as the folks around here know and may attest, I’m usually pretty reserved about political conversation and have to be arm-twisted to ever bring up, much less take a position on the subject. 😆


  316. 326 Carolina Lady September 23, 2008 at 9:25 pm

    Braves minor league pitcher Matthew Small suspended 50 games for testing positive for a banned amphetamine.
    Won’t they ever learn??


  317. 327 Gil in Mechanicsville September 23, 2008 at 9:43 pm

    Interesting site TP…


  318. 328 Gil in Mechanicsville September 23, 2008 at 9:44 pm

    Of course not, that is why they continue to test players for drugs….


  319. 329 Gil in Mechanicsville September 23, 2008 at 9:45 pm

    He was probably told by the dude that sold them to him that they were special and undetectable…


  320. 330 Carolina Lady September 23, 2008 at 9:53 pm

    At least on this one they said ‘tested positive for..’; with Shaffer, they said ‘suspicion of…’. Big difference.


  321. 331 Carolina Lady September 23, 2008 at 10:28 pm

    The Braves won?? 😯 By ONE run????? (They don’t have an icon for ‘fainted’.)


  322. 332 Carolina Lady September 23, 2008 at 10:41 pm

    Weird local story:

    A short time back, police came to investigate complaints by neighbors of a bad smell coming from a guy’s house. He was really strange, kept to himself and wouldn’t even be in his yard if he saw anyone around. Police found him dead of natural causes.

    Then, somebody asked about his elderly, invalid Mother who lived with him. Nobody had seen her for months. Police check inside the house again. Hidden behind a stack of furniture and assorted junk, they found a freezer. And there was Mom, nicely tucked inside with a pillow, frozen solid. It is thought she’d been dead since May.

    Now, today’s newspaper has a headline which reads:
    Dead son can’t be prosecuted for keeping mom in freezer


  323. 333 flbravesgirl September 23, 2008 at 10:59 pm

    Ewww, CL!


  324. 334 flbravesgirl September 23, 2008 at 11:01 pm

    Too bad we can’t import emoticons from somewhere else. On my skating board we have a “thud” , his eyes bug out & he falls over.


  325. 335 Carolina Lady September 23, 2008 at 11:01 pm

    Ain’t it the truth! The headline amazes me; didn’t they instantly realize that there would be no prosecution??? They had to deliberate to see if they had a case?? 🙄


  326. 336 Carolina Lady September 23, 2008 at 11:03 pm

    Yeah, I miss not having more icons. They can be a lot of fun!
    How’s the house coming?


  327. 337 flbravesgirl September 23, 2008 at 11:05 pm

    I remember Vizcaino showboating that time, VOR. He forever branded himself as a jerk in my opinion with that.

    Sorry to hear Son of Raisins is still stuck on the sidelines. I know he’s disappointed.


  328. 338 flbravesgirl September 23, 2008 at 11:08 pm

    Good. The weather’s been so gorgeous, Dad & I mostly did outdoor work this time. Painted the fence & a built up flower box. I planted tulips, hyacinths & irises today.


  329. 339 Carolina Lady September 23, 2008 at 11:11 pm

    It’s gonna be terrific, FBG!

    Time for this one to call it a day! zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

    ‘Night, FBG!


  330. 340 flbravesgirl September 23, 2008 at 11:12 pm

    ‘Night, CL!


  331. 341 Berigan ll, the worm turns September 24, 2008 at 4:35 am

    Man, oh man….The ATL is pretty much out of gas!! My Dad and I didn’t panic, and now we are paying for it! One car is out of commission(Should have asked Gil, how the bleep do you get a distributor out of a ford product, when it seems welded in?????)and has been for weeks. It probably has half a tank. The other 2 cars have less than 1/4 tank!!!! And wherever we drove yesterday, every single station was out of gas. Heard that one exxon had a tanker deliever early in the day, and was out by noon!

    I’m on the south side of Atlanta. How is it everywhere else??? Of course, it seems to just be a problem in the south, we have to have cleaner gas than elsewhere, which means less fuel….just now lifted the waiver….too little, too late.

    Ever get the feeling folks making well over 6 figures can’t figure out what anyone with a room temp or higher IQ can figure out????

    And I recall hearing some retailers were balking a few days ago at the very high prices the wholesalers were charging. I heard one guy say the seller said to him, well, how bad do you want gas, and he said, not that badly.

    I hope the wholesalers will enjoy much more government regulation that will now come their way…..



  332. 342 Berigan ll, the worm turns September 24, 2008 at 5:20 am

    Heard on TV there is gas at a texaco on Tara Blvd…wish me luck ! It’s about 10 miles away!!!


  333. 343 Berigan ll, the worm turns September 24, 2008 at 6:59 am

    Found gas at the QT only 5 miles away! Happy days! 🙂
    Went back and got gas for my Pa’s car as well…it was getting crowded though, and people were getting a bit edgy..well, me…as someone was going to try to take the pump I was waiting for…helped to have a beat up 1975 Lincoln though, as they made way! 😀


  334. 344 Voice of Raisins September 24, 2008 at 8:27 am

    The gas shortage in the ATL area is a twofold problem. 1st, we get 100% of our gas from the Gulf coast refineries, of which only 14 of 26 were back in operation 2 days ago. Yesterday it was 19, and all should be back up to speed in the next couple of days. 2nd, and just as responsible, is the media driven panic. It is the lead story on every TV, radio and other news outlet that you see. I love how they all say, “Don’t panic, but…”

    I was in Tennessee over the weekend, and filled up for $3.49 a gallon.


  335. 345 Voice of Raisins September 24, 2008 at 8:31 am

    According to a poll conducted by CNN, Americans blame Republicans over Democrats for the financial crisis by a 2-to-1 margin. That means that twice as many people out there are playing this “blame the current administration” game. Ahhhh … the brilliance of the American voters. It is really no surprise if you consider where most people get their information– Entertainment Tonight. It is easy to sit back and just blame the Republicans, rather than trying to understand how we have gotten to this point. Look, folks, I’m not saying that the Republicans didn’t have a hand in this … but Barack Obama has crept back up in the polls to take the lead over John McCain, and you don’t think this has anything to do with the economy?

    And just who was it that killed a Freddie and Fannie reform bill a few years ago? Why, that would be Democrats. And who was it that was saying everything was cool with Freddie and Fannie? Barney Frank; who is not, by the way, a Republican. And who has been pushing lenders to make loans to unqualified borrowers for two decades? Democrats again. Still, the message doesn’t get out. Could that possibly be because of the media love affair with The Chosen One?

    Just yesterday, Hillary Clinton said that Barack Obama “is best suited to straighten out the country’s economic problems.” Question … what in the wide wide world of balance sheets is she basing this on? What makes Hillary so sure that Barack Obama is the best candidate to handle the economy? What has he ever handled in his entire life? (Wait, don’t answer that!) This is coming from a woman who said that “once we get through this immediate crisis,” the country should look at some Great Depression-era type of governmental entity to deal with it. I’ll tell you what came out of Great Depression politics … big government. Lots of government. Government dependency.

    This is exactly what the Democrats want. They are viewing this entire debacle as a golden opportunity to increase the size of government and expand dependency. Now is the time for you to rely on their party – and their savior, Barack Obama – to lead you out of this crisis and right onto the path of greater government dependency. And it all comes down to one thing, and that is power.

    — Neal Boortz

    I could not possibly agree with him more…


  336. 346 Voice of Raisins September 24, 2008 at 8:34 am

    Breaking news! Clay Aiken admits he is gay!

    Breaking news! The sun produces heat and light!



  337. 347 Voice of Raisins September 24, 2008 at 8:36 am

    Also in today’s headlines, Lindsay Lohan reveals that she is dating a woman, and has been for some time.

    In a related story… who cares?


  338. 348 Voice of Raisins September 24, 2008 at 8:40 am

    The way I see it, the headlines scream about a wank and a skank, and the general population eats it up. Try to inform them about the crumble of the American Empire, though, and they don’t want to hear it…

    I bet the ratings for the dancing celebs is through the roof!


  339. 349 Salty September 24, 2008 at 8:55 am

    Is it apparent how selfless Paulson has acted. He has allowed himself to be stripped, in some respects, of his dignity for the good of the nation. How you ask?

    Look at the ‘ridicule’ wrought over a three-page plan with a concurrent request for expeditious passage. He’s allowed folks to think he’s lost his mind…is an absolute fool. Why? Because he knew the folly present in sending a detailed proposal before Congress. He knew whatever was presented would be parsed, sliced, and diced…and bloviated over ad nauseum. He also knew something needed to be done and soon.

    He swallowed his pride and posed a basic roadmap, knowing it takes far less time to digest three-pages, and ‘humbly’ gave Congress it’s opportunity to input details. Thus, after a day or two, there is progress being made.

    Perhaps I’m giving him far more credit than due, but neither do I think the man’s a fool. He left enough space on the ‘canvas’ for parties to place their stamp, yet maintain momentum towards getting action that is light years in speed relative to most government action. Essentially, he used Congress’s typical approach to an advantage rather than let it be a burden.

    As we know, Congress typically argues over the placement of a tree, oblivious to the fire consuming the forest. Paulson positioned his solution such that know one could ignore the fire…so the focus could be on who mans the hoses, and where they should be placed.


  340. 350 Salty September 24, 2008 at 9:35 am

    Interesting…I guess. I’m more struck how someone is an ‘expert’ on the scientific study of death. Expertise merely by doing? 🙄



  341. 351 Salty September 24, 2008 at 9:38 am

    Filtered out again! 😡 I can post via IE, Firefox, Safari…doesn’t matter. I post a link, and into the trap I go.


  342. 352 Carolina Lady September 24, 2008 at 10:38 am

    Interesting article, Salty. It’s so hard for some people to accept something that ‘science’ can’t prove. They don’t understand how limited science is. (Sorry the filter got you again. I think it has a crush on you or something!)


  343. 353 Gil in Mechanicsville September 24, 2008 at 10:45 am

    Berigan.. It’s not welded… just stuck…

    CL.. Dead mom in freezer… Oh that’s cold…

    Obama in the lead.. Well, maybe that’s why Bush is pushing the $700 MM bailout. Whoever gets elected will not have any money to work with and will be absolutely unable to fund any programs…


  344. 354 Salty September 24, 2008 at 11:07 am

    How’s this for absurdity…a guy speaking to the gas issue in the ATL area:
    I have had difficult finding Premium gas. The suppliers should focus on providing Premium first since the more expensive cars typically require it. People who drive more expensive cars are the ones providing jobs and need to get to work more urgently.

    🙄 Sheesh!


  345. 355 Voice of Raisins September 24, 2008 at 11:43 am

    ajc’s Terence Moore: Will the blackout lose its effectiveness if the Dogs, who will sport black jerseys for the third time in nine games Saturday, continue to wear black?

    Man, he is always on the race card, huh?



  346. 356 Carolina Lady September 24, 2008 at 12:30 pm

    Salty, that sounds like the mindset of the privileged elite: they are simply more important than the rest of us and should be catered to. 😡

    Off the dentist. 😦


  347. 357 Savannah Guy September 24, 2008 at 12:38 pm

    Tennessee Paul, I just visited your blog. Very impressive. Kudos for a compelling and well designed website. Also like the ‘American Missive’ title premise and positioning. After reading through your bio, I couldn’t help but appreciate your minority status as a happily married, Christian, Conservative leaning Physicist living in Long Beach, California. Well, you’re not totally alone… there are probably a few other physicists out there. Couldn’t resist.

    Actually I love the Long Beach to Laguna area. My wife and I were with family and friends in Newport Beach for a week last summer. Hey, if it was good enough for John Wayne, the OC is good in my book. By the way, did you attend the SolFest this year?

    Enjoyed your ‘Dem Double-Down’ article. It was a well researched, thought provoking and nicely written piece. I was particularly interested in the polling data you’ve linked and discussed. As with other highly personal, socially sensitive or controversial topics, I imagine election-polling data tends to be pretty skewed toward capturing of opinions that voters think they should have as opposed to what they really believe, but would only admit in an environment of complete comfort, secrecy and trust.

    Our upbringing, social and environmental influences, geography, education and a primal, nearly irresistible urge to join groups all affect our beliefs and tend to instruct us in our political and social behavior. Many of those same fallible, biased and imperfect human beings vote. Most voters are biased towards their own group and around their own beliefs. Race is one of those touchy subjects most folks shy away from… which is unfortunate.

    Your article addressed parts of the race issue nicely in an appropriately academic and neutral manner. The differences between races have caused mistrust and conflict since the beginning of time. To a lesser degree and due to our own societal evolution, those differences are less today than ever before… yet racism remains fully intact.

    In America we have our Constitution, where all men are created equal and we have our freedom of religion. We are a nation of laws and our social programs level the playing field for all citizens to some extent. Our laws protect us and guard against discrimination regardless of race, creed, color, sex, and national origin, religious and political beliefs. Well, maybe we’ve made great strides in most of those areas. We may have taken a few steps back on our respect for opposing political viewpoints.

    On top of all of those laws, policies and practices, our culture has followed suit in more personal ways. Point is, seems that never before in American history has there been more of an effort, regardless of core beliefs, to at least publicly show respect and behave in a civil manner toward those that are different.

    As it should be.

    Now, in that context and with that basic premise, my stream of thought takes me to the part of your story that relates to the polling of voters on race issues. Depending on how survey questions were constructed and the quality of the target list, quantitative can be useful to varying degrees yet not yield near the accuracy or understanding of qualitative polling in a research environment where anonymity is assured.

    Stating the obvious again, although the qual beats the quant in truthful, meaningful responses… it is more time consuming and costly. Even more detailed yet costly in time and money would be in-depth psychographic studies on a properly screened demographic. These types of studies surely have been done. I haven’t seen them but it would be interesting to take a look.

    Research isn’t perfect and the analysis of and opinions derived are not only effected by the questions posed and the environment the voter was in during questioning, but the results are always skewed to some degree by the interpretation of the answers… not to mention the inherent bias of those doing the poll and writing up the results.

    It’s actually more complex than complicated but at the end of the day, our insight is increased a little or a lot by the removal of barriers between voter and pollster. Most pollsters aren’t capable due to time and budget constraints to dig that deep. Such is life in an era of topical research at the speed of sound, superficial knowledge and sound-bite communications in politics and other matters of state.

    Add to that, our understandable over-sensitivity in questioning those groups that have been the victims of racism. Subtle little things we do and say divide us. For instance, in your article you stated:

    “For instance, the Bradley Effect was cause for concern in a Tennessee political race. Harold Ford, an African American Democrat, was running against Bob Corker, a white Republican.”

    Not meaning to nitpick, but I noticed a grammatical or cultural discrepancy there. Should we not refer to all races as either hyphenated or not? It’s not a stretch to imagine that Bob Corker would be an English-American, just as Harold Ford is an African-American.

    I’m not criticizing your comment nor am I pointing out grammatical inconsistencies at all, the Lord knows I’m a habitual violator of English, but merely using that example to illustrate a point about the inherent oversensitivity and barriers (and hyphens) we place between ourselves and other people. We’ve all been ‘trained’ to refer to blacks as African-American (even in some situations where there is no African heritage), yet we refer to ourselves in the generic ‘white’.

    Again, not criticizing your excellent article or your superb writing. I sometimes hyphenate American blacks and refer to them as African-Americans myself, but here I’m just making a point that could be a microcosm of why polls are imperfect and perhaps how the Bradley Effect reaches so far into our culture and deep into our collective psyche.

    Well, my playtime is over now and my rambling must end. I would have signed on/logged into American Missive but am a bit pressed for time since I’m about to travel. I’ll try and post this on yours when I get the chance. I’d encourage you all to check out the site. It’s worth the time. In the meantime, maybe this’ll get a few citizens of Stuffville to chime in on the subject. That is, if I haven’t put you all in a deep sleep.

    “Prejudice is the child of ignorance.”
    –William Hazlitt (an English writer)


  348. 358 Salty September 24, 2008 at 12:54 pm

    I’ve long opposed introducing anyone by other than their name, as the additional detail only serves to have us never listen to the message. How often is failure to listen and understand a result of the metaphoric ‘cotton’ our prejudices and bias stuff in our ears?


  349. 359 TennesseePaul September 24, 2008 at 12:58 pm

    The cast is off! The cast is off! I can barely hold a pen but it is so much easier to type now. And after a good half hour in the shower the stench has been supressed.

    SG: Thanks for the post on the article. Would have especially loved it had you posted it on the article. 🙂 As for the hyphen thing, I don’t rightly know. My grammer and spelling is only as good as the auto checker in the word processing document. I used it so much in the missive I don’t know if I want to go back and correct every instance. We’ll see. It’ll probably get updated when I’m bored and the Braves aren’t playing.


  350. 360 Savannah Guy September 24, 2008 at 1:22 pm

    Wow, many very good posts and commentary on ye olde Stuffian blogge today.

    Raisins, Salty, Boortz… right on bruthas. And Lohan like girls… oh, my. Not sure if I’d really consider that particular loss to a heterosexual mankind.

    Now, after reading the ajc story on gas lines, shortages and such, I’m beginning to wonder if I should take spare cans on my trip there. I saw Berigan’s gas quest. Any updates on availability? Maybe I’ll just fill’er up in Macon.

    Saw where the Fed has just loosened restrictions on the “smog-busting gasoline requirements” just to fill the orders. That, on top of the Dems deciding to let the offshore drilling ban expire just goes to show that common sense creeps in when people are inconvenienced with long lines or high prices.

    There is a silver lining in this. American is far too spoiled to ever go socialist.


  351. 361 Savannah Guy September 24, 2008 at 1:36 pm

    Hey TPaul, I should already be packing but waiting on a last conference call… so I’m killin’ time and such. I will post it on your blog this evening. I’ll try anyway.

    By the way, I really don’t think your hyphenated inconsistency was a grammatical error. Instead, it’s an all too common and widely accepted practice to call blacks African-Americans and refer to whites as, uh, whites. No problem at all but (as I’m inclined to do) it causes me to look beyond current trends, behaviors and habits into the deeper issues around the things we silly humans behave and communicate. Maybe it’s an occupational hazard.

    I’ve discussed this with my close black friends and they agree with me. I’ve discussed it with blacks that were friendly aquaintances and they were mixed in their response to the question/premise… which I also found interesting.

    Anyhoo, it’s all good. We’re all equal where it really counts.


    “Support the strong, give courage to the timid, remind the indifferent and warn the opposed.”
    –Whitney M. Young, civil rights leader

    and one for Berigan, who made an Orwell comment about my post yesterday:

    “Freedom is the right to tell people what they do not want to hear.”
    –George Orwell


  352. 362 Savannah Guy September 24, 2008 at 1:38 pm

    metaphoric ‘cotton’ our prejudices and bias stuff in our ears

    Damn Salty… nice. Wish I’d said that!


  353. 363 Voice of Raisins September 24, 2008 at 2:07 pm

    CL: Off the dentist.


    That’s illegal in North Carolina, too, ain’t it?


  354. 364 Salty September 24, 2008 at 2:13 pm

    know one could ignore the fire
    😯 🙄
    No one knows no like I know no! 😆


  355. 365 Salty September 24, 2008 at 2:27 pm

    Good article…sharp guy.


    By the way, he’s proposed helping the gov’t manage the portfolio gratis, if other business leaders sign-on similarly.


  356. 366 Berigan ll, the worm turns September 24, 2008 at 2:52 pm

    Lots o’ good stuff here today!!!
    V, Boortz can get on my nerves sometimes, when I listen to him(By the by,I’m sure he’d be all for the rich getting premium first) but when he writes, you just can’t dispute what he says! CL posted yesterday the quote by Barney Frank that Boortz referenced….99% of the population will never know about it.
    Just like they will never know that Dodd, questioning Paulsen and Bernake(sp?) had receieved more money from Fannie Mae, et al than anyone else! Sigh…. 😦


  357. 367 Berigan ll, the worm turns September 24, 2008 at 2:55 pm

    And SG, if you haven’t left yet, you’d better fill up in Macon, it’s going to be crazy here for awhile. I think by trying to be different than the masses royally bleeped my Dad and me, so we will do like everyone else and top off the tank whenever we can! 🙄


  358. 368 Salty September 24, 2008 at 3:19 pm

    …so we will do like everyone else and top off the tank whenever we can!

    So…if you can’t be part of the solution, you’ll be part of the problem? 😕 😛
    Of course I’m kidding.

    Still, all the stations have to do is something along this line:
    Dear Customer:
    The pump will be pre-set to $xx.xx amount purchase. All purchases will be this amount. If you don’t need this much, please move along. If you want to pay three-times the going rate for gas, please proceed.

    After paying 7, 8, 9 bucks a gallon, the shortage will reduce significantly.


  359. 369 Berigan ll, the worm turns September 24, 2008 at 4:04 pm

    PETA Urges Ben & Jerry’s To Use Human Milk



  360. 370 Gil in Mechanicsville September 24, 2008 at 4:46 pm

    Moved my money around today… Let the chips fall where they may… That said, I am considering not paying my mortgage so I can get in on the big handout… Then again… Maybe not… may just pay it off and then defend the homestead…

    And Josie voted yesterday… She wants to be able to work the polls on election day. And she says the talking heads remind her of the Wizard of Oz… She says it’s like the Wizard saying to Dorthy “bring me the witch’s broom”.. And everyone needing something, a heart, a brain, courage… uh.. $700 MM dollars…

    So, how about Mike Hampton? :-} I told you folks he would come around by the end of the season… I truly hope the Braves re-sign him for next year..


  361. 371 Gil in Mechanicsville September 24, 2008 at 6:21 pm

    Preaching to the choir here but my take on McCain vs Obama on the current crisis. McCain can actually lend something to the argument and therefore the solution, Obama has no idea what to do and therefore only needs to vote present… A political light weight and the only thing he knows how to do is espouse more words. I fear for the future of our country if his gang takes over the White House…


  362. 372 Salty September 24, 2008 at 6:32 pm

    Well said, Gil. Leadership isn’t about the media’s approval…it’s about getting to solutions. Now, I don’t believe McCain will alter the proposal in a significant way…but if taking time to fully digest its implications is all he gains by the delay, it has value…and frankly, that’s all he’s going to garner.


  363. 373 Berigan ll, the worm turns September 24, 2008 at 7:24 pm

    Reid to McCain: Don’t Come Back to Capitol


  364. 374 Carolina Lady September 24, 2008 at 7:38 pm

    Don’t know who originally came up with this idea but it sure would be worth a try!

    from email:
    “I’m against the $85,000,000,000.00 bailout of AIG.

    Instead, I’m in favor of giving $85,000,000,000 to America in
    a We Deserve It Dividend.

    To make the math simple, let’s assume there are 200,000,000
    bonafide U.S. Citizens 18+.

    Our population is about 301,000,000 +/- counting every man, woman
    and child. So 200,000,000 might be a fair stab at adults 18 and up..

    So divide 200 million adults 18+ into $85 billon that equals $425,000.00.

    My plan is to give $425,0 00 to every person 18+ as a
    We Deserve It Dividend.

    Of course, it would NOT be tax free.
    So let’s assume a tax rate of 30%.

    Every individual 18+ has to pay $127,500.00 in taxes.
    That sends $25,500,000,000 right back to Uncle Sam.

    But it means that every adult 18+ has $297,500.00 in their pocket.
    A husband and wife has $595,000.00.

    What would you do with $297,500.00 to $595,000.00 in your family?
    Pay off your mortgage – housing crisis solved.
    Repay college loans – what a great boost to new grads
    Put away money for college – it’ll be there
    Save in a bank – create money to loan to entrepreneurs.
    0ABuy a new car – create jobs
    Invest in the market – capital drives growth
    Pay for your parent’s medical insurance – health care improves
    Enable Deadbeat Dads to come clean – or else

    Remember this is for every adult U S Citizen 18+ including the folks
    who lost their jobs at Lehman Brothers and every other company
    that is cutting back. And of course, for those serving in our Armed Forces.

    If we’re going to re-distribute wealth let’s really do it…instead of trickling out a puny $1000.00 ( “vote buy” ) economic incentive that is being proposed by one of our candidates for President.

    If we’re going to do an $85 billion bailout, let’s bail out every adult U S Citizen 18+!

    As for AIG – liquidate it.
    Sell off its parts.
    Let American General go back to being American General.
    Sell off the real estate.
    Let the private sector bargain hunters cut it up and clean it up.

    Here’s my rationale. We deserve it and AIG doesn’t.

    Sure it’s a crazy idea that can “never work.”

    But can you imagine the Coast-To-Coast Block Party!

    How do you spell Economic Boom?

    I trust my fellow adult Americans to know how to use the $85 Billion
    We Deserve It Dividend more than I do the=2 0geniuses at AIG or in Washington DC .

    And remember, The Family plan only really costs $59.5 Billion because $25.5 Billion is returned instantly in taxes to Uncle Sam.

    Ahhh…I feel so much better getting that off my chest.”


  365. 375 Carolina Lady September 24, 2008 at 8:36 pm

    NEW YORK (Reuters) – Nobel Peace Prize winner and environmental crusader Al Gore urged young people on Wednesday to engage in civil disobedience to stop the construction of coal plants without the ability to store carbon.

    The former U.S. vice president, whose climate change documentary “An Inconvenient Truth” won an Academy Award, told a philanthropic meeting in New York City that “the world has lost ground to the climate crisis.”

    “If you’re a young person looking at the future of this planet and looking at what is being done right now, and not done, I believe we have reached the stage where it is time for civil disobedience to prevent the construction of new coal plants that do not have carbon capture and sequestration,” Gore told the Clinton Global Initiative gathering to loud applause.

    Are there not laws against fomenting civil disturbances/riots/damaging property??


  366. 376 Gil in Mechanicsville September 24, 2008 at 8:38 pm

    Wow… Brilliant CL….


  367. 377 Gil in Mechanicsville September 24, 2008 at 8:41 pm

    Al Gore.. An inconvenient doofus…


  368. 378 Gil in Mechanicsville September 24, 2008 at 8:43 pm

    I hope the folks in Virginia, West Virginia and Pennsylvania all realize the Dems are anti coal…


  369. 379 Savannah Guy September 24, 2008 at 8:49 pm

    I’d like to write in my vote for Carolina Lady as Prez! 😆


  370. 380 Savannah Guy September 24, 2008 at 8:51 pm

    Chipper Jones is on the field, at the plate one minute and crushed a 3 run homer.

    Mr. Chipper Jones, 2008 NL Batting Title Champion.


  371. 381 Berigan ll, the worm turns September 24, 2008 at 8:53 pm

    SG, that was great, wasn’t it????? 😀


  372. 382 Carolina Lady September 24, 2008 at 8:54 pm

    It IS a brilliant plan – but I didn’t come up with it. Don’t know who originated it, but I received it in email and just had to share it here!

    Sounds like something Sarah would come up with. And do! 😆


  373. 383 Berigan ll, the worm turns September 24, 2008 at 9:13 pm

    CL for Prez, I like it! 🙂

    The Chosen One!!! He will now come to DC!!!! We will be saved!!!


  374. 384 Carolina Lady September 24, 2008 at 9:18 pm

    I just thought of something else the plan above would do: no more welfare, food stamps, subsidized housing, etc. Or very little, anyway.

    I know there would be those who would squander it and be back right where they are now, but most wouldn’t, I would hope.

    We can dream, can’t we??


  375. 385 Savannah Guy September 24, 2008 at 10:29 pm

    CL will now have to put her hair up real sexy, start fishing, hunting, get some fancy eyeglasses and kiss many babies. Maybe sell that John Deere on ebay too. 😆

    Braves Win, Braves Win!!!! Looooooooooooooonnnnngggggg Game. 😯

    That win against the (current) NL East leading Phillies will add confidence next spring. Something to know and build on.


  376. 386 Berigan ll, the worm turns September 24, 2008 at 11:05 pm

    Nice to see us stick it to the Phils a bit….still hope they come out on top though…


  377. 387 flbravesgirl September 24, 2008 at 11:06 pm

    Whoever came up with that plan is a genius! Can I vote for them?

    TennPaul, glad to hear the hated cast is off.


  378. 388 flbravesgirl September 24, 2008 at 11:10 pm

    Ber, you’re scaring me with the Quest For Gas. Dad & I are going home in the morning. We had to go to 4 stations before we found gas this evening. The full tank can get us halfway. He says that when we get off the backroads to I75 if there’s no gas at the exit we’re coming back here for a few days to wait it out.


  379. 389 flbravesgirl September 24, 2008 at 11:13 pm

    Now, Braves… Great game. Well, not for Jo-Jo but for the rest of them. What was the deal with Tavarez & Victorino?


  380. 390 flbravesgirl September 24, 2008 at 11:16 pm

    11:15? Yikes, I need to try to snooze. ‘Night y’all. Talk to tomorrow from Florida (or maybe back here?).


  381. 391 flbravesgirl September 24, 2008 at 11:17 pm

    Talk to you … 🙄


  382. 392 Savannah Guy September 24, 2008 at 11:20 pm

    Mutts Lose, Mutts Lose!!!! 😆

    FBG, I got gas today in Macon. It was easy.

    Double steak burger and cheese’ll do it every time. Uh… oh, the Chevron station had plenty of gasoline too. 😳


  383. 393 Berigan ll, the worm turns September 24, 2008 at 11:27 pm

    FLB, I was feeling quite concerned about the situation…we had enough gas to go to town twice maybe…maybe! I think you guys will be ok away from Atlanta. A friend in Barnesville, well south of where I live even, said that there were no gas shortages. My Friend in Savannah said there have been the occasional station without gas, but most have them…


  384. 394 Berigan ll, the worm turns September 25, 2008 at 7:12 am

    May not hear much from Gil and CL, what with a big Nor’easter of their coasts! Heard they are already getting 40 + gusts in the Carolinas!

    Might really mess up the ol’ playoff race as well!


  385. 395 Voice of Raisins September 25, 2008 at 8:12 am

    G’morning. Drove up to the local QT last night and got gas with no problem. The RaceTrac across the bridge had a tanker truck downloading when I drove by. The local Kroger (yes, we have a Kroger in Jefferson; it’s the largest in Georgia) has run out of Regular a couple of times, but has had Mid and Premium. Finding gasoline in Jefferson is not a problem. Finding gasoline closer to Atlanta is a problem mostly because of the media driven panic.

    Let’s face it. If the media can fuel (pun fully intended) a panic, be it gasoline, hurricanes, climate change, etc., they can grow an ever needy patron base. It’s not too much unlike the dope pusher who metes out a few freebies to get his customers hooked.


  386. 396 Voice of Raisins September 25, 2008 at 8:20 am

    (Chipper) Jones has missed five consecutive starts and said the shoulder didn’t feel any better when he threw Wednesday than last Friday, despite not throwing for five days.

    “I don’t know. They [Braves medical staff] are saying it’s bursitis or tendinitis. Until we go in there and get a look at it, we won’t know. If it’s just what they say it is, then rest should do it.”

    He hasn’t played in the field and had only two pinch-hit appearances since the pain worsened in his shoulder, which he said had been sore to varying degrees for most of two months.

    Because it’s lingered so long, “I’m a little concerned about it,” he said. “I just tried to simulate throwing across the infield [Wednesday], and I couldn’t do it. I think it would have been all I could to muster a throw 90 feet.” — ajc

    20 years ago, also as a 3B, I had the exact same symptoms; I mean exact same symptoms. I also had the exact same diagnosis. 6 months and 3 doctors later, an MRI revealed a torn rotator cuff. The subsquent surgery also revealed a torn labrum.

    I’m just sayin’…


  387. 397 Salty September 25, 2008 at 8:24 am

    Hmm…VOR…looks like the Braves may have a first baseman…post-surgery. How long is the recuperation…is he out for next year?


  388. 398 Voice of Raisins September 25, 2008 at 8:46 am

    Funny you said that, Salt-dude. I kinda thought the same thing. Obviously, they have yet to actually diagnose a serious injury, but the expected return time from Chuck James’ September RC surgery is mid-’09. I think it’s entirely possible that this could turn out to be the impetus for a much-discussed move to 1B for Chipper.


  389. 399 Voice of Raisins September 25, 2008 at 8:47 am

    Impetus… first on blog?


  390. 400 Carolina Lady September 25, 2008 at 10:18 am

    ‘Morning, all!

    It’s ablowing today! Gusts over 40 right now, but not a whole lot of rain as of yet, but it’s coming. (And naturally Mother had an eye appt. at 0840 this morning of all mornings, right?…..)

    Will be eager for news on CJ’s shoulder!

    Can Kotchman play 3rd?

    Salty, re yesterday “Off the dentist” – only if necessary. 😆


  391. 401 Salty September 25, 2008 at 10:25 am

    Salty, re yesterday “Off the dentist” – only if necessary.

    Uh, that was Raisins, CL. I was respectful and kept my trap shut! :mrgreen: I was not impetuous (another first?)! 😆


  392. 402 Carolina Lady September 25, 2008 at 10:34 am

    Oops! Sorry, Salty! 😳

    Memo to self: don’t rely on memory anymore! 😀


  393. 403 Voice of Raisins September 25, 2008 at 10:40 am

    Memo to self: don’t rely on memory anymore!

    Good luck remembering that! 😀


  394. 404 Voice of Raisins September 25, 2008 at 10:41 am

    Wow! I got a little italic nutty there… 😯


  395. 406 Voice of Raisins September 25, 2008 at 11:13 am



  396. 408 Gil in Mechanicsville September 25, 2008 at 11:46 am

    Yes, we have the perfect rain maker, works better than an Indian rain dance or washing cars… It’s the Virginia State Fair!!!! You can mark it on your calender, twill always come to pass… Fair starts today… nor’easter is on the way…


  397. 409 Voice of Raisins September 25, 2008 at 1:52 pm

    So Diaz was activated from the DL last night… How’d that slip by?


  398. 410 Berigan ll, the worm turns September 25, 2008 at 2:22 pm

    V, I sure didn’t hear about that! Man, that’s got to be frustrating to get healthy just as the season is ending….I imagine in one season, he’s gone from being the starting left fielder, to a guy likely to be gone, period! 😦


  399. 411 Voice of Raisins September 25, 2008 at 2:27 pm

    You know Bobby won’t start him if the ‘stros are still in the wild card hunt, either…


  400. 412 Berigan ll, the worm turns September 25, 2008 at 2:29 pm

    Can Kotchman play 3rd?

    CL, just looked, he never played 3rd, at least at the ML level. Shoot, I thought he had….


  401. 414 Berigan ll, the worm turns September 25, 2008 at 10:14 pm

    Hello?? do posts post??? We shall see….


  402. 415 Savannah Guy September 25, 2008 at 10:25 pm

    Hello?? Oh, Hey Gil.

    Is everybody watching MSNBC today/tonight?


  403. 416 Savannah Guy September 25, 2008 at 10:38 pm

    Mutts come back to win in the 10th. &%#$@&%.

    Brew Crew is struggling against the Pirates, tied 1-1 in 9th. 😯

    Phils lead by one game. Magic number stays put. Tomorrow gets interesting for the NL Pennant race and the Wild-Mild Card.


  404. 417 Berigan ll, the worm turns September 25, 2008 at 10:47 pm

    Gil??? Did he make a post??? We look alike, I can see how you could confuse us. 😛


  405. 418 flbravesgirl September 25, 2008 at 10:48 pm

    Evening y’all. Back home, though it was a bit adventuresome finding gas. Quite a lot of stations were out or only had regular, which is fine for the truck. Good thing we weren’t in Mom’s Acura, it takes premium.


  406. 419 flbravesgirl September 25, 2008 at 10:50 pm

    Gil, the county fair here is a guarantee for cold & rain.


  407. 420 Berigan ll, the worm turns September 25, 2008 at 10:52 pm

    FLB, where was it hardest to find gas?? GA or FL???


  408. 421 Savannah Guy September 25, 2008 at 10:57 pm

    Oops. Sorryboutthat. Hey Bear. Sup?

    FBG must be thinkin’ ’bout Gil too.

    By the way, I got gas in Macon and noticed today the station down the street (on Ponce) has plenty too, so… no problem in that department. My truck likes regular best. High octane causes heartburn and hiccups. Works for me.


  409. 422 flbravesgirl September 25, 2008 at 11:06 pm

    It’s fine in FL, Ber. Seemed like more stations had gas the further south we got in GA.


  410. 423 Savannah Guy September 25, 2008 at 11:15 pm

    Brewers win on a walk off Slam!!!!

    Mutts are on the ropes. 😆


  411. 424 Savannah Guy September 25, 2008 at 11:17 pm

    g’nite. stay dry… or wet… or gassed. whatever you happen to need.


  412. 425 Berigan ll, the worm turns September 25, 2008 at 11:25 pm

    SG, that’s great!!! Goodnight!


  413. 426 Carolina Lady September 25, 2008 at 11:34 pm

    Florida Rep. Alcee Hastings on Wednesday warned two minority groups to beware of Sarah Palin because “anybody toting guns and stripping moose don’t care too much about what they do with Jews and blacks.”

    Hastings, who is black and a Democrat, made the comment in Florida at a panel discussion hosted by the National Jewish Democratic Council.

    Hastings was explaining what he intended to tell his Jewish constituents about the presidential race.

    “If Sarah Palin isn’t enough of a reason for you to get over whatever your problem is with Barack Obama, then you damn well had better pay attention,” Hastings told the audience, which burst into laughter and applause, according to individuals present.

    Hastings, a former federal judge, was impeached and removed from the bench in 1989 for perjury and corruption. Elected to Congress in 1992, he supported Hillary Clinton during the primaries until she conceded the race.

    I have never seen so many unethical, low-class people in my life.


  414. 427 Berigan ll, the worm turns September 26, 2008 at 8:24 am

    CL, I knew Alcee Hastings rang a bell, but couldn’t recall why. The ABC story neglected to mention the impeachment, thanks for posting this. And the youtube clip earlier! 😀
    Some folks want a race war if Obama, a guy with a white Mom, raised by white grandparents doesn’t win. Makes perfect sense to me! 🙄


  415. 428 Voice of Raisins September 26, 2008 at 8:37 am

    You don’t watch much C-Span then, do ya?


  416. 429 Berigan ll, the worm turns September 26, 2008 at 8:48 am

    Used to years ago…not sure I get you though…does Mr. Hastings brag about being a disgraced judge often??? 😀


  417. 430 Voice of Raisins September 26, 2008 at 8:53 am

    Really nice article on the Frenchman:


    I think I have been on record as saying I still believe he’ll come back and be a very productive hitter in this league. Perennial All-Star? Maybe, maybe not. But productive .270avg./25HR/100+RBI guy is OK with me. Simply put, he’s the right handed power threat we need, and he’s already here. He just needs to regain his form.

    I am imagining:

    6)a vintage Frenchy

    That’s not too shabby, huh? And it’s very possible…


  418. 431 Voice of Raisins September 26, 2008 at 8:55 am

    For clarity:

    CL: I have never seen so many unethical, low-class people in my life.

    Me: You don’t watch much C-Span then, do ya?


  419. 432 Berigan ll, the worm turns September 26, 2008 at 9:12 am

    V, ahh….now I’s gets it!


  420. 433 Berigan ll, the worm turns September 26, 2008 at 9:38 am

    V, that’s an interesting lineup…and if Frenchy hits like the Frenchy of old, pretty darn good.

    You know what’s weird to me though??? We often need a leadoff hitter, but we often seem to have guys that hit too well batting 8th. You know, the .250 hitting slick fielding catcher or SS. Well, our catcher is just about the best hitter on the team, and our SS hits pretty darn well…as well.

    So, I look at your lineup and think, gee, shouldn’t we have Anderson/Schafer in the leadoff spot??? Fine….but, then who bats 9th??? Hmmm….if KJ doesn’t hit for 3 months like last year, fine put him there, but if he’s hitting? No way. Perhaps it is best to have A/S in the 8th hole.
    Having speed at the bottom of a DH team is great. But, it’s kinda wasted in the NL. I don’t know, might work.

    Then again, we may need to think of trading Yunel and or KJ for pitching. I know, I know, what am I saying??? It wouldn’t be my first thought(at least Yunel) but… what if CC signs with the Yanks???(His family is west coast, but if the Yanks offer 40 mil more than anyone else, well, money talks.. so it sounds like we would have a lot of barriers to overcome) Sheets may be damaged goods. AJ Burnett, sounds like there’s a good chance he stays in Toronto unless they are really cheap with him. Derek Lowe wants to play on the east coast and like I said, I don’t know if we count or not. Who’s that leave??? Jon Garland??? Don’t know if he will re-sign with the Angels or not, and he’s not a 1 or 2 starter. Kyle Lohse?? Great year this year with the cards, 15-6, 3.78 ERA. But, his career era, after this great year is 4.67!!! Will he still be a good pitcher away from Dave Duncan????
    Oh, forgot to mention Ryan Dempster, but I have heard he’s likely to re-sign with the Cubs….

    We will have to give up something to get something. Heck, even offering Yunel to a team, who’s going to give us a #2 starter???

    I know most of you don’t agree with me, but seeing us play with passion , with “grit” the last few weeks, makes me think Infante and or Prado can fill in at least one of those positions. And while Infante is not Yunel, he’s still pretty good, and would likely do better playing SS every day. Prado would certainly provide more consistent defense at 2nd base.

    Also, we might not be able to get Dunn, though I think a walk machine would be a great influence on the team…someone else might sign him, which means trading for a bat…

    So many questions!!! And a post that most be half as long as a typical SG post!!! 😛

    All I do know for a fact, it’s going to be a fun off season! 🙂


  421. 434 Berigan ll, the worm turns September 26, 2008 at 9:43 am

    Sigh….let me reword that 2nd paragraph, and the first part of the 3rd, so it makes, you know some sense???

    You know what’s weird to me though??? We often need a leadoff hitter, but we often seem to have guys that hit too well batting 8th. We don’t have the classic 8th place hitter. You know, the .250 hitting, no power, but slick fielding catcher or SS. Well, our catcher is just about the best hitter on the team, and our SS hits pretty darn well…as well.

    So, I look at your lineup and think, gee, shouldn’t we have Anderson/Schafer in the leadoff spot??? Fine….but, then who bats 8th???

    (I could just see V typing out after I said who bats 9th, “I know, I know, the pitcher!!!” 😉 )


  422. 435 Voice of Raisins September 26, 2008 at 10:04 am

    B: If I were to make a trade for pitching, giving up one of our everyday guys, I’d trade Yunel. He has great value in that he is a top shelf SS, and is pretty darn cheap. If I could get a #2 pitcher for Yunel and PTBNL, I’d do it. Then I’d go:

    6)a vintage Frenchy
    8)Lilly the Kid

    Yes, I’d play Lilly. Infante is a classic super-sub. I don’t want him starting. Prado as well. I want both of them along with Norton on my bench.

    I think we have a good shot at Dunn, and I think we have a shot at Lowe, and I want him. I agree that Dempster will probably stay in Chi-town, but Lohse or Wolf are intriguing.

    Gimme these starters:

    Lowe, Jurrjens, Lohse/Wolf, Glavine, ???(from Yunel trade)

    This ‘pen:

    Campillo, Carlisle, Ohman (yes, resign him), Soriano, Acosta, Smoltz, Gonzo

    In the field:

    The earlier mentioned 8 plus

    My bench:

    Infante, Prado, Norton, Sammons, Diaz (sorry, Blanco… you’re gone with Yunel in the trade)



  423. 436 Voice of Raisins September 26, 2008 at 11:01 am


    New computer threats:

    The email Subject Line says: Nude pictures of Sarah Palin

    It is a virus!!!

    Also, the Subject Line says: Nude pictures of Hillary Clinton

    It really is the pictures!!! WARNING!!!


  424. 437 Berigan ll, the worm turns September 26, 2008 at 11:04 am

    V, I’d swear I had hit refresh since 10:04! Oh well…I’m surprised you are for trading Yunel as well! Curious if anyone else is on board for that or not….

    I know you and Gil like Lillibridge a lot…and I have sure heard good things about him. Honestly though, he just turned 25(Wonder if he’s pulled the opposite of some latin players, and made himself older, he truly looks like the ball boy!) He just doesn’t look big enough to play every day. And he seems to have regressed as a hitter. He sure can field though!
    Omar is 27, Prado is 25, but even though he can play 2nd, 3rd(and now 1st and left) has he played any SS???
    Checking out stats at the baseball cube, I saw something interesting. Lillibridge has a .270 minor league BA, Prado has a .300 BA! I sure didn’t know that!

    I like the looks of the starting rotation and bullpen…so much depends on Lowe though. I don’t know if he could play for the yanks after being a red sox for so long. Heck, they might want to take a chance on him…who knows??? Baltimore….we are not the only team looking to improve, or that has money to spend.

    And Dunn won’t be cheap either, 13 mil this year. Wasn’t his option for next year 18 Mil??? I forget….


  425. 438 Berigan ll, the worm turns September 26, 2008 at 11:08 am

    V, :mrgreen: if only it was the reverse! 😳


  426. 439 Voice of Raisins September 26, 2008 at 11:29 am

    Yes, B, there is alot of money that has to be spent, but Frank is on record as saying he’ll spend.

    As to liking Lilly, I’m not a huge fan, but the kid can field and knows how to play the game. Offensively, he’ll never be what Yunel is, but if I can get a good pitcher, I’ll sacrifice the offense and bat Lilly 8th. Remember Rafael Belliard?

    Why trade Yunel? Well, it’s pretty simple to me. He has the most trade value; he’s young, talented and well known in the league and plays a position that is always in demand. Also, he is streaky and emotional. Not a knock, just a fact. Yunel plus Blanco would net a decent pitcher.


  427. 440 Salty September 26, 2008 at 12:49 pm

    Yunel plus Blanco would net a decent pitcher.

    I’m on board!


  428. 441 Bay Area Steve September 26, 2008 at 4:16 pm

    Man, that plan sounded great to me, CL. Even I wouldn’t complain if the feds sent me $425,000. But when I do the math: 85B/200M, I only come up with $425. Maybe DOB math?

    And you guys sure make it tough with all the one-sided political stuff. I don’t doubt the veracity, but surely there are examples from the other side. As someone who despises both sides, I hate to see the right left out.

    Back in a month; I’m always reading, just too lazy to post.


  429. 442 Bay Area Steve September 26, 2008 at 4:21 pm

    Oh, and I noticed your comment regarding the free advertising.

    I saw a similar post across the street. I don’t follow the principle where one leaves a blog on principle, and then later uses the same blog for one’s own purposes.

    That said, I’ll continue to wish that all my favorite posters come together again.


  430. 443 Berigan ll, the worm turns September 26, 2008 at 4:23 pm

    BAS, wish you weren’t so lazy….I enjoy your posts! Perhaps some ritalin would help???? :mrgreen:


  431. 444 Berigan ll, the worm turns September 26, 2008 at 4:40 pm

    BAS is cheap, lazy, and lives in SanFran….an excellent combo for finding a wife! 😀


  432. 445 Berigan ll, the worm turns September 26, 2008 at 4:42 pm

    Of course, being broke, lazy, sickly, and living in Jonesboro, sure don’t help my chances either. 🙄


  433. 446 Berigan ll, the worm turns September 26, 2008 at 4:44 pm

    Thought this comment from Bobby, via DOB is interesting….

    The defense,(KJ’s) many of us have noted, can get ugly form time to time. But when I asked Bobby Cox about it yesterday, the manager looked at me like I was crazy. “Kelly’s great,” Cox said. “He was great last year.”


  434. 447 Voice of Raisins September 26, 2008 at 4:52 pm

    B, Bobby always props his players, whether they deserve it or not. It is a very rare moment when Bobby doesn’t portray one of his as if they’re future HOFers. One such moment I can think of recently is his scathing of Jo-Jo. That, my broke-lazy-sickly-living in Jonesboro friend, is a statement of note. I doubt we’ll see Jo-Jo next season; at least not in the bigs.


  435. 448 Berigan ll, the worm turns September 26, 2008 at 4:58 pm

    Gotta love this ad put out by a group started by Howard Dean, and run by his brother. 😡


  436. 449 Berigan ll, the worm turns September 26, 2008 at 5:04 pm

    Good point V….and a good policy for the most part. It won’t break my heart to see Jo-Jo elsewhere. If he isn’t perfect, he isn’t very good. and He does seem to have focus issues…
    Was it you, or Gil that pointed out Bobby’s criticism of Josh’s wide turn(that wasn’t) when he was thrown out at home??? I still think he doesn’t think of him as a real prospect, a full time player….


  437. 450 Berigan ll, the worm turns September 26, 2008 at 5:08 pm

    We may have fewer free agent choices than first thought…
    Jose de Jesus Ortiz quotes Astros southpaw and Ed Wade favorite Randy Wolf:

    A few weeks ago I had a short conversation with Ed and talked about what I thought of it here and if I’d be open to playing here. Like I’ve said, I think…yes definitely. The geography doesn’t really matter anymore. I think first and foremost I want to be on a winning team and have the best possible chance to be where I’ve never been before, which is the playoffs.

    It seems this was a consideration for Wade all along when he made the trade for Wolf. Overall Wolf has a 4.30 ERA in 190.3 innings. He made all his starts and posted a solid 7.6 K/9. Wolf averaged 88.8 mph on his heater, showing more velocity than he had in recent years.

    With a fair offer, the Astros might be able to sign Wolf before he hits the open market. He earned $8.5MM this year, hitting all his incentives. It might take three years and $30-35MM to sign him. At the least, the Astros can offer Wolf arbitration and snag a draft pick since he’s a Type B free agent.


  438. 451 Berigan ll, the worm turns September 26, 2008 at 5:09 pm

    From mlbtraderumors.com forgot to mention that…


  439. 452 Voice of Raisins September 26, 2008 at 5:27 pm

    Headin’ out guys…

    I gotta friend in from Alaska this weekend, so I expect to be scarce for a couple of days.



  440. 453 flbravesgirl September 26, 2008 at 7:46 pm

    Hi, BAS! Please come around more often, we’ve had too many people wander off.


  441. 454 flbravesgirl September 26, 2008 at 11:11 pm



  442. 455 Berigan ll, the worm turns September 27, 2008 at 12:04 am

    Still up??? been on the phone….


  443. 456 Savannah Guy September 27, 2008 at 9:54 am

    Ahhh,,, Home Sweet Home. Sleeping in was a rare treat. It’s a beautiful and a cool 63 degrees here on the coast. Only the sounds of nature can be heard out my window this fine Fall morning. The songbirds are singing, the Blue Jays are squawking, the Cardinals are chirping and chipping, the Wrens, Warblers and Sparrows, Flycatchers and the occasional Titmouses’ are trilling, whistling and chipping and chattering. A winged symphony.

    All the while the coffee is percolating and Stuffville is snoring away. Just me and the birds. Think I’ll leave the TV off today so I don’t have to listen to the talking heads tell me who won last nights debate and spin it every which way to suit their own bias. Birds chirping tell us more.

    Now, baseball: Phils win, Brewers win, Muttrodome’s lose. The obnoxious Mutts fans don’t have anything the crow about on the blogs (another bird reference). Gotta love that (was that a cheep shot?).

    Hopefully they finish strong this weekend and the kids play good to end on a positive note (another music reference). Now there’s plenty of time in the off-season for our decimated pitching staff to rest, strengthen and heal their broken wings so they can fly next year (many bird analogies).

    Advice and hope for all injured pitchers.

    Life is good. Birds, baseball and Fall mornings make it better.


  444. 457 Savannah Guy September 27, 2008 at 10:02 am

    Make that:

    Hopefully they Braves finish strong this weekend and the kids play good…

    So, who do you guys think won the debate last night?


  445. 458 Berigan ll, the worm turns September 27, 2008 at 10:41 am

    SG, TV told me Obama won, who am I to argue with TV???? 😀


  446. 459 Berigan ll, the worm turns September 27, 2008 at 10:45 am

    Seriously, I kind of had a bad feeling, didn’t want to watch it….Had visions of McCain saying something like Ford did about Poland not being a communist country or something….but, I saw a few minutes at best buy, and I didn’t hear anything too stupid.
    Came back home and though McCain was more than holding his own. He was in the attack mode, but that’s alright, got to show folks you want the job.
    I am biased,but from what I saw, he came out slightly on top. Obama did pretty well, all things considered.
    They both speak better than Bush does. 🙄


  447. 460 Berigan ll, the worm turns September 27, 2008 at 10:46 am

    How about you SG??? Or where you traveling???


  448. 461 Savannah Guy September 27, 2008 at 2:54 pm

    Hey… nope, been traveling but home now. Takin’ a break from cleaning out the veggie garden. Didn’t have a good year with the okra and ‘maters this year. Dunno what happened, usually I supply the whole neighborhood but this year the plants were weak and didn’t produce much. Much like the Braves… not a good year.

    On the debate, I thought Obama “won”, on style, articulation, appearance and tying issues together in a timely, coherent and intelligent way. McCain spent too much time on Eisenhower and ancient politics… and he missed about 50 opportunities to deck his opponent but for whatever reason, didn’t. The stage and podium (and formal debate) is not McCain’s best communication platform. That, and McCain looked old and quirky. We all knew he would. So, for all of those reasons on all of those accounts, Obama technically won. Style trumped reason and truth.

    Now, if you know these men and their backgrounds, their experience, character and their actual records of bills authored, policies supported and legislation passed, you would have seen right through the difference between a well-studied, articulate, lying debater and his authentic albeit maverick opponent.

    As far a truth is concerned, McCain won hands down

    Trouble is, the ignorant audience that hasn’t already made up their minds based on what they know of the candidates policies, experience, character and political/social tenets because they don’t have a clue… still don’t. They will choose the one that talks the best or the one the media swoons over. We know who that is.

    McCain needs to pull the sledge hammer out next time and smile before he strays from the moderator’s question to throw the unvarnished truth out to Obama and the world to highlight the suspicious, extreme, radical left ideology and mention his many dangerous friendships and comments from his own ‘Dream of Father’ book. McCain should do this in a gentile way that sounds respectful but is actually a poisonous, fatal dagger.

    It would be gratifying to see the ‘Chose One’ called on the carpet on things he’s said and done… things the media will never expose. The debate may be the only forum McCain has to drop those bombs and have them heard.

    Not sure why Mr. McCain hasn’t called me for this advice. 😆


  449. 462 Gil in Mechanicsville September 27, 2008 at 3:22 pm

    Good afternoon all, it has been a hectic couple of days for me. The nursing home called yesterday morning at 6 AM to tell me they were sending my mom to the hospital as she was having difficulty breathing. Turned out to be congestive heart failure.. Anyway, she has dodge another bullet but I don’t really know how many more times she is going to withstand the onslaught of time. She just seems so frail to me now.

    Anyway, SG your assessment on the debate is pretty much dead on. I have come to see Obama as someone’s mouth piece. All I can see is a president that takes his directions from Nancy Pelosi and Chris Dodd and the rest of the liberal left.

    Thank goodness the republicans in the house are holding out…

    Now baseball…. The Braves’ magic number is 2… Then reset for next year with a clean slate. Most likely changes for the Braves will be in the outfield. I would not bet the farm that the Braves will keep Francoure but would not bet they wouldn’t trade him for pitching either… I think Bobby will keep Blanco or Anderson but not both. Matt Dias will likely be traded for a bag of balls and some new bats. Uh… maybe he can join the rest of the misfit Braves in D.C. The Nats have had pretty good success rehabilitating Atlanta’s castoffs.

    Bottom line, everybody needs pitching, watch out for San Francisco and the Marlins next year… They are loaded with good young arms…


  450. 463 Savannah Guy September 27, 2008 at 3:37 pm

    Gil, very sorry to hear about your mom. Hope she’s comfortable and getting well.

    Some sad news: The esteemed Mr. Paul Newman has died. A great actor and a good man. One of my all time favorites.

    A blog tribute:

    Jes standin’ in the rain…

    watchin’ the final game…

    of the men we admire…

    real cool cats and regular guys…

    Rest in Peace.


  451. 464 Berigan ll, the worm turns September 27, 2008 at 5:28 pm

    Gil, sorry to hear about your Mom as well! congestive heart failure sounds bad, which it is, but people can live a quite a long time with the problem. My Mom had it the last few years of her life, but it was the Cancer that got her.
    The most amazing case I have heard of is my Mom’s Niece’s Father in Law. He’s in his late 80’s and still kickin’ He’s outlived my Mom’s Niece(She died of Cancer in 2004) and my Mom, who died in 2005. Saw him at my Cousin’s funeral with oxygen tank in hand. Looked like a man who wouldn’t be around 3 years later, but he is…..


  452. 465 Berigan ll, the worm turns September 27, 2008 at 5:30 pm

    Just put on Fox, Milwaukee is down 4-0 in the 5th, Lilly has not given up a hit yet….


  453. 466 Berigan ll, the worm turns September 27, 2008 at 5:45 pm

    no hitter thru 6…but about 76 pitches…man, he looks small and skinny for a ML pitcher!


  454. 467 Berigan ll, the worm turns September 27, 2008 at 5:54 pm

    SG, McCain should call you! This will get no coverage, but anyway….

    Video: Obama’s Flip-Flop On Missile Defense


  455. 468 Berigan ll, the worm turns September 27, 2008 at 6:07 pm

    No no-no for Nomo..I mean Lilly. Just sounded better that way. 😕


  456. 469 Berigan ll, the worm turns September 27, 2008 at 6:07 pm

    Or if Nomo was still pitching… No mo no-no for Nomo! 😀
    I kill myself! 🙂


  457. 470 Berigan ll, the worm turns September 27, 2008 at 6:47 pm

    It is sad about Paul Newman. 83…hard to believe, isn’t it???
    gave away over 200 million! A good liberal….one who put their money where their mouth was.


  458. 471 Berigan ll, the worm turns September 27, 2008 at 7:32 pm

    Braves up 5-0, Josh Anderson has hit homers in his first 2 AB’s!!!!!


  459. 472 Gil in Mechanicsville September 27, 2008 at 7:35 pm

    Thanks for the sentiments guys. I have mixed emotions about it all. I have a realistic outlook about it all, God’s will be done…

    And the Braves (Josh Anderson) have their hitting shoes on tonight.

    And James Parr, isn’t he amazing? Looks totally unimpressive but just gets guys out… Strange game baseball…


  460. 473 Berigan ll, the worm turns September 27, 2008 at 8:36 pm

    Gil, I certainly know what you mean about having a realistic outlook as well….It’s so tough to have sick parents…wanting them to have some quality of life.


  461. 474 Berigan ll, the worm turns September 27, 2008 at 8:39 pm

    Lillibridge just had the best swing I think I have ever seen him take, on a opposite field double. You see that, and you see what Gil and V talk about….


  462. 475 Berigan ll, the worm turns September 27, 2008 at 8:49 pm

    Why isn’t Santana’s name ever mentioned in Cy Young talk??? I seem to recall a certain artist telling me Santana was no big deal, wasn’t going to make a difference for the Mutts…how he would have trouble in a new league, etc, etc, etc. Well, he’s 16-7 with a 2.53 ERA. I think the bullpen has blown 7-8 games he had the lead in….Kind of what has happened to Smoltz in years past. Pitched a complete game shut out today, on 3 days rest.
    If he was 22-6, with that ERA, he’d be a cinch, wouldn’t he????

    Speaking of 16-7 , so is 74 year old Jamie Moyer….


  463. 476 Berigan ll, the worm turns September 27, 2008 at 8:52 pm

    Gil, I think we are seeing now why James Parr Looks totally unimpressive! 😕
    Actually, he hit 90 a few times and I was thinking don’t forget about this guy next year! Forget about this guy, for next year! That’s cruel, he is young….


  464. 477 Savannah Guy September 27, 2008 at 9:42 pm

    The Dawgs are getting treated like little pups. Like a Cocker Spaniel fighting a Bull Mastiff. Like a small boston Bulldog fighting a Pit Bull…

    well, you get the picture. Uglyness.

    Go Braves!


  465. 478 Gil in Mechanicsville September 27, 2008 at 9:45 pm

    Wouldn’t it be something if the Mets failed to make the play-offs again this year… The baseball gods have a wicked sense of humor…


  466. 479 Savannah Guy September 27, 2008 at 9:45 pm

    The Brewers fall into a tie for Wild Card with the Muttrodumbs.

    Go Brew Crew!


  467. 480 Gil in Mechanicsville September 27, 2008 at 9:49 pm

    A 164 game season and it comes down to the last game to decide if you had a good season or not…


  468. 481 Gil in Mechanicsville September 27, 2008 at 9:51 pm

    I know that is not fair but that is how the sports writers will see it…


  469. 482 flbravesgirl September 27, 2008 at 10:33 pm

    😯 OMG!!! What happened to Mac’s hair?!? 😥


  470. 483 flbravesgirl September 27, 2008 at 10:36 pm

    Fun game but my enjoyment of it was dampened by the ruination of my boy’s teddybear cuteness. That is not a good look.


  471. 484 Berigan ll, the worm turns September 27, 2008 at 11:17 pm

    FLB, I didn’t know you were McFann!!! 😛 It’ll grow back….


  472. 485 flbravesgirl September 27, 2008 at 11:38 pm

    I am not a teenage girl, Ber. She’s a nice kid though.

    Hope it grows fast. Tomorrow would not be too soon for me.


  473. 486 Savannah Guy September 28, 2008 at 8:22 am

    Last game… summer’s over… sad.

    Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.

    (Marxist Philosophy)


  474. 487 Salty September 28, 2008 at 8:38 am

    SG said: Not sure why Mr. McCain hasn’t called me for this advice.

    He needs your number? 😆


  475. 488 Savannah Guy September 28, 2008 at 9:17 am

    Salty, if he ever read this blog he’d surely have my number.

    I just hope the American people have Obama’s number.

    Hope they also have the numbers of Dodd, Frank, Shumer, Raines, Pelosi, Reid and all the other scoundrels that put party and personal power over country, no matter which side of the aisle they happen to sit their corrupt, self-absorbed, greedy, inept or head-in-sand selves.

    But it’s too nice a morning to get all worked up. Did I say the birds were singing, chirping, chipping, tweeting, cawing, mocking, crowing, squawking, twitting and flitting?

    Well, they are. 😀


  476. 489 Berigan ll, the worm turns September 28, 2008 at 5:58 pm

    Braves played their last game of the season…. If the braves fall in Texas, does anyone notice???


  477. 490 Savannah Guy September 28, 2008 at 6:11 pm

    Those Amazin’ Mutts melt again! 😆

    Brew Crew is in! CC Sabathia is a warrior and a work horse… complete game win. Wouldn’t we like him in a Braves uniform next year. The guy is old school amazing.

    Braves lose, but I was doing some serious channel jumping between Mutts and Brewers games. Hampton may just be a good pickup for someone next year with his performance since coming back. Still, it’ll be a gamble with massive incentives and as low a salary as possible. After all his DL time, wonder if the Bravos will even tender an offer?

    Josh Anderson has earned a spot next year. Speed, power and I believe he’ll hit for average when he gets around the league a few times.

    So… who do ya like for the WS?


  478. 491 Berigan ll, the worm turns September 28, 2008 at 6:20 pm

    SG, I am a compassionate Conservative, I feel a little for the Mets fans right now…A little! 😛 CC would look mighty fine in the braves uni’s!!!
    As for Hampton, I heard Bobby flat out say he hopes he’s back next year. Kind of surprised to hear that, but that’s what he said. And I agree. I don’t think we can assume anything right now…. I think I forgot to post a story from MLBTraderumors that Burnett sounds more likely to sign with Toronto.


  479. 492 Berigan ll, the worm turns September 28, 2008 at 6:30 pm

    I hope you are right about Anderson SG! He hit .358 and drove in 11 for Houston last year, and they still traded him away. And he’s 26 now. If Prado and Infante are permanently stamped as role players at the same age, why not him as well??? 🙄

    Oh, WS, who shall win it??? Good question!!! The Cubs are 100 years away from their last WS win, and have so much talent, it’s just ridiculous…and we know what often happens to teams like them. The Yankees last year looked like a team that would roll over any and all teams…didn’t happen. The Phils last year looked the same way with their offense.
    Rockies looked like a team that since they kept sweeping, was the team to beat. Swept, weren’t they???

    So, I would guess the Cubs in a nose over the Phils, vs the Rays in a nose over the Red sox. With the Cubs beating the Rays in 7. IF the Red Sox get in, and Beckett is healthy??? They win it all, plain and simple.

    Watch, it will be the Brewers and Angels! 😉


  480. 493 Berigan ll, the worm turns September 28, 2008 at 6:39 pm

    Just saw the NL matchups on espn….
    The Brewers will face Philadelphia in the first round of the playoffs. The NL Central champion Cubs will play the Los Angeles Dodgers.


  481. 494 Berigan ll, the worm turns September 28, 2008 at 6:49 pm

    Well, Corky finished the year at a robust .083, after going 0-2 today with a RBI. Last hit was July 21st. My dream for next year, is a back up catcher that can at least hit half his weight! 😛

    Oh, and Chipper won the batting title, congrats!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 🙂 🙂 🙂


  482. 495 Berigan ll, the worm turns September 28, 2008 at 6:54 pm

    Meh…enough baseball, lets talk politics! 😉 first, the comment of a typical hard left poster on my jazz board… an Atheist like about 90% of the folks there…

    But Palin is not just a denier:

    From the LA Times

    “Soon after Sarah Palin was elected mayor of the foothill town of Wasilla, Alaska, she startled a local music teacher by insisting in casual conversation that men and dinosaurs coexisted on an Earth created 6,000 years ago — about 65 million years after scientists say most dinosaurs became extinct — the teacher said.”


    Sarah Palin is truly John McCain’s gift to America. She embodies in larval form all we’ve come to expect from national republicans.


  483. 496 Berigan ll, the worm turns September 28, 2008 at 7:01 pm

    Then my comments…I’d post a link, but it’s protected since it’ the political forum…have to protect those who can’t control themselves and would read it and get upset!!! 🙄

    I teacher heard her say this??? No recordings of the conversation, just what he remembers. No doubt, just an average joe in Alaska right??? At least no mention of belonging to Progressive Alaska http://progressivealaska.blogspot.com/2008/09/saradise-lost-chapter-sixten-palins.html in the LA Times article, for some unknown reason! Wonder why????? 30 seconds googling found this info, but why should “journalists” bother checking out their source??? ALL that matters is he says what they want to hear.

    It would be interesting to read someone in Illinois , perhaps some music teacher,say they heard Obama say in a “casual” conversation blacks are superior to whites….and what it not become a story because there would be no way to back it up…..


  484. 497 Berigan ll, the worm turns September 28, 2008 at 7:04 pm

    Then my comments…I’d post a link, but it’s protected since it’ the political forum…have to protect those who can’t control themselves and would read it and get upset!!! 🙄

    I teacher heard her say this??? No recordings of the conversation, just what he remembers. No doubt, just an average joe in Alaska right??? At least no mention of belonging to Progressive Alaska
    in the LA Times article, for some unknown reason! Wonder why????? 30 seconds googling found this info, but why should “journalists” bother checking out their source??? ALL that matters is he says what they want to hear.

    It would be interesting to read someone in Illinois , perhaps some music teacher,say they heard Obama say in a “casual” conversation blacks are superior to whites….and what it not become a story because there would be no way to back it up…..


  485. 498 Berigan ll, the worm turns September 28, 2008 at 7:05 pm

    Then my comments…I’d post a link, but it’s protected since it’ the political forum…have to protect those who can’t control themselves and would read it and get upset!!! 🙄

    I teacher heard her say this??? No recordings of the conversation, just what he remembers. No doubt, just an average joe in Alaska right??? At least no mention of belonging to Progressive Alaska in the LA Times article, for some unknown reason! Wonder why????? 30 seconds googling found this info, but why should “journalists” bother checking out their source??? ALL that matters is he says what they want to hear.

    It would be interesting to read someone in Illinois , perhaps some music teacher,say they heard Obama say in a “casual” conversation blacks are superior to whites….and what it not become a story because there would be no way to back it up…..


  486. 499 Berigan ll, the worm turns September 28, 2008 at 7:11 pm

    Wouldn’t let me put in the link to progressive Alaska for some reason…
    last line should have said…
    and watch it not become a story because there would be no way to back it up


  487. 500 Savannah Guy September 28, 2008 at 7:31 pm

    Unless the Angels have a major slump, they’ll be in the WS and probably stomp the NL team. They rebuilt pretty quick in the last few years didn’t they. Maybe Tex’ll get a ring the quick way.

    Dodgers vs. Cubs and Brewers vs. Phillies. Hmmm…

    OK, here goes: Cubs and Brewers advance. (CC could probably make consecutive starts for 3 games).

    Cubs go to the WS.

    Anyhoo, that’s my prediction but I wouldn’t bet a dime on it. Nobody is solid, except the Anaheim Angels. Looks like another AL year and a short WS. I would bet on that… fitty cent.


  488. 501 Savannah Guy September 28, 2008 at 7:45 pm

    A special note to our esteemed blog host and friend, Carolina Lady:

    Thank you for building a great blog for us to play in all year while we watched our Braves and discussed an eclectic myriad of stuff. Thanks for putting up with our silliness, our petty arguments, our sword fights, our rock music links and our (my) verbosity throughout another great year of blogging with you and the good citizens of Stuffville. Braves were beat up and perhaps some of us were too, but it’s been a real pleasure to visit here.

    Without your hard work, dedication and behind the scenes management (and diplomacy), Stuffville would be but a figment in our oft overactive imaginations.

    I don’t mean to preempt or speak for anyone here but I’m certain that everyone that calls this place blog home now and those that used to reside or visit here would whole heartedly agree.

    Thanks again CL. You are the hostess with the mostess!

    Love ya, mean it.


  489. 502 Gil in Mechanicsville September 28, 2008 at 7:56 pm

    My observation is no one is going to change their mind about who they are going vote for now if they have been indoctrinated with lifelong propaganda.

    Of course, after this week and the massive bailout of wall street, no one in D.C. is going to have any money for their pet projects anyway.

    And what a great day to be a Braves fan… Okay, I know the Braves had another down year but the Mets choked again…… 🙂

    And everybody sing Hail to the Redskins…. A 26-24 winner over the dreaded Cowboys…. Yeehah!!!!


  490. 503 Salty September 28, 2008 at 8:01 pm

    The other day I opined over Paulson’s 3-page plan; my perceived logic on why the brevity…despite the ridicule he was sure, and did, endure.

    NOW…NOW…tonight/tomorrow morning it will be voted on…ALL 100+ PAGES!!! I think the man deserves far more credit for how to get Congress to enact change at governmental ‘light speed’. Whether you like it or not is irrelevant, for this post…getting something done is. Deer in the Headlights won’t work.

    By the way…anyone catch Huckabee? I don’t agree with him on all issues, but he’s pretty savvy.


  491. 504 Gil in Mechanicsville September 28, 2008 at 8:05 pm

    Okay, time to work on a new lead for the B&S blog before CL has to send me a nasty gram>>>


  492. 505 Berigan ll, the worm turns September 28, 2008 at 8:20 pm

    Salty, did you see the 60 minutes story on Paulsen, et al???


  493. 506 Berigan ll, the worm turns September 28, 2008 at 8:23 pm

    And ditto what SG said about CL!!! And I don’t think I am telling tales out of school, that tooth of hers is really causing her some pain! 😦 Get well soon CL!!!


  494. 507 Gil in Mechanicsville September 29, 2008 at 12:20 am

    Salty, I watched part of it. He is a pretty nice guy and should grow as a TV personality. It is good exposure for him. I have known many politicians to use such venues to improve their visibility and name recognition to the masses.

    I would expect for him to be a front runner in the 2012 election cycle for the Republican nomination if John McCain is not elected this year. For sure, all those who vote for Obama this year are going to be really tired of the change they got after four years of liberal mis-management.


  495. 508 Salty September 29, 2008 at 9:30 am

    I don’t watch 60 minutes…show has zero credibility to me. I can’t imagine the show was flattering to him, but surprise me.

    Huckabee is clear on his values, yet doesn’t press others they should feel similarly. He’s seems willing for people to be who they are, and move forward from there. Even if McCain (some how) is elected, he is not a two-termer…I don’t believe. The world situation is really deteriorating, and responding to some very serious threats will be necessary, not unilaterally, but with conviction from our (purported) allies. Real intestinal fortitude will called for.


  496. 509 Berigan ll, the worm turns September 29, 2008 at 9:38 am

    Salty, the world situation is one of many reasons I am terrified of an Obama win….Russia and Venezuela are going to work on a new Nuclear project, I see. Iran keeps threatening Israel….what will The Chosen One do??? Talk firmly, and do nothing. Well, get those folks to talk to him at Camp David…have them tell him to his face they don’t care what he says, cuz they know he won’t do anything…and that will be that.


  497. 510 Carolina Lady September 29, 2008 at 11:00 am

    ‘Morning, everyone. I’ve been in the deepest pit of dental Hell these last few days. Had a root canal on Wednesday to prevent an abscess from forming. Dentist cleaned out the canal, sealed it up nice and tight. Sent me home.

    By the next morning, I was in agony. Abscess formed anyway, except now the only place to go was to expand into the bone. Which it did. Nothing to do but to take antibiotics and WAIT for them to overcome the infection which would reduce the swelling and pressure in the bone which would then reduce the pain.

    The only pain medication that has been effective is TWO 5/500 hydocodone tabs WITH 2 aspirin. That would give me a little relief for about 2 hours – then I’d have to wait 6 hours until I could take it again. Forget sleep. Did not sleep from Tuesday night (before the procedure the next day) until early (like 5 am) Saturday morning.

    Still far from over, but about 30% improved this morning. Since Tuesday I’ve have: 1 cup of soup, 2 pieces of toast, a small piece of tender, sauteed chicken. And some hot coffee.

    Congratulations to Chipper! I’m really glad for him!

    Atlanta: 72 90 .444 -20.0
    Thank goodness for the Nats! Basement buffers.

    Will be a very interesting off-season, ya think? 😕

    Congress has nationalized our entire financial system. Socialized America begins in earnest.


  498. 511 Hillbilly September 29, 2008 at 11:38 am

    Back in God’s country, finally, after a week in Houston for a training course. I didn’t see much structural damage, but Ike layed the smack down on hundreds and hundreds of trees just north of the city.

    I bumped into Yunel Escobar at the Galleria Mall on Thursday evening. He denied me an autograph and pretty much acted annoyed that I had recognized him. Can’t blame him…If I was rich and somewhat famous, I’d probably snub some redneck in a Braves hat holding a pen and a post-it note that interrupted my idle time, too. Evidentally I was the only person in the mall who knew who he was, because he hung around there for about 30 minutes and nobody else ever approached him.

    I ran into the Hallmark store to borrow a pen and a piece of paper and I told the clerk that I needed it because I was trying to get an autograph from a ball player outside the store. His eyes lit up and he said, “Oh, really? Is it Shaquille O’Neal?” WTH?


  499. 512 Gil in Mechanicsville September 29, 2008 at 12:27 pm

    CL… A helpful hint, you cannot overdose as long as you are in pain… Sometimes meds need to be titrated to required dose… It is pretty tough to be pain free but usually you can get it down to tolerable levels.

    I put a new lead in the hopper… please review and post when ready. I will do part two soon.

    Yes, the Ruskies are really pushing it don’t ya’ll think? Sorry, cannot let that happen.

    Obama truth squads to run amok… All that needs to be said is Obama is the most liberal senator in Washington… That is not a lie… I don’t know why the McCain campaign has not been hammering that fact home…


  500. 513 Gil in Mechanicsville September 29, 2008 at 12:36 pm

    Obama is so far left that he makes Ted Kennedy look like a moderate…


  501. 514 Gil in Mechanicsville September 29, 2008 at 12:40 pm

    They should tie Obama to the fact he worked for Acorn as a legal counsel. An organization that is so corrupt that they need to screw their shoes on when they get up in the morning…

    The McCain campaign also needs to let Sarah Palin be Sarah Palin… They are killing her by having her espouse the official line. Let her state her views and say she doesn’t always agree with McCain but respects his record. Tell reporters they will have to talk to McCain if they want to know his positions…


  502. 515 Gil in Mechanicsville September 29, 2008 at 12:41 pm

    Climbing back off my soapbox now…


  503. 516 Carolina Lady September 29, 2008 at 1:15 pm

    Hey, Hillbilly! Boy, I hate to hear about that attitude from Yunel. He better be thanking God for even being where he is!

    Will fetch it right now, Gil. Will post when brain, eyes and fingers can somewhat synchronize themselves. (need cross-eyed icon)

    I fully agree that they need to turn Sarah loose! She’s being smothered. She is so fresh being herself, but now the handlers have turned her pubic personna into ‘just another politician.’ Pray, people!!

    “The budget should be balanced, the Treasury should be refilled, public
    debt should be reduced, the arrogance of officialdom should be tempered
    and controlled, and the assistance to foreign lands should be curtailed
    lest Rome become bankrupt. People must again learn to work, instead of
    living on public assistance.”

    — Cicero , 55 BC


  504. 517 TennesseePaul September 29, 2008 at 1:15 pm

    I’m hoping the Rays pull it off. I’d like to see them play the Brewers in the WS with the Rays winning. It’d probably churn out the worst viewer ratings in history though. But I’d like this two small market clubs stepping over the big spenders.

    I’ll be at the Cubs/Dodger games on Saturday. Should be a blast.


  505. 518 Carolina Lady September 29, 2008 at 1:18 pm

    Hey, TP! I’m all for the small-market teams, too! Tell us all about your experience at Saturday’s game! We’d all LOVE to hear about it!


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