88: Would you believe, we missed it by this much!

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by Gil of Mechanicsville

Would you believe, we missed it by this much….

Last week in a post race interview with Nascar racing bad boy Kyle Bush, he was asked if he felt let down by just missing stock car racing version of a play-off by 12 points, just edged out by another team in the final race of the regular season. He was reflective and truthful in his reply when he said it was not the most recent race that was his downfall but rather the accumulation of near misses and questionable moves over the 26 race prelude that cause him to come up short.

I think that could also sum up the Braves season quite well. It was not losing two of three to the Phillies at home last week that have all but ended the Atlanta team’s playoff hopes but many instances where the Braves failed to play up to their potential over the course of a 162 game schedule.

However, the Braves faithful should not lose sight of what has been a remarkable turn-around for a club that was woefully bad last year. Going from a team which lost 90 games in 2008 to one that will likely win that many this year. In a world where everything seems to rely on winning the last game played in a season, the following of the Bravo’s should take heart that the future bodes well for their favorites.

There are a lot fewer holes to fill for next season. Frank Wren and company has done a pretty spectacular job of rebuilding the pitching staff and is a much better place than last year when filling the team’s need for a power bat in the line-up. In fact could be made that if the Braves had been able to field the team they currently have during the entire season, the results would be much different right now as far as the playoffs and likely would be holding off the Phillies for the NL East title.

While it is purely speculation on my part, here are some of the names I doubt you will see on an Atlanta uniform next year:


Kelly Johnson, while he may still ply his trade with another major league team next year, I doubt it will be in Atlanta. Kelly still has potential but the Braves have other options that are far cheaper and have greater ability at his position.
Rafael Soriano: While he can be a top shelf closer at times and un-hittable, his price tag will be too high for as far as Atlanta is concerned especially with the emergence of Peter Moylan and Eric O’Flaherty.
Mike Gonzalez: See above. Rocky will make a great Gonzo1closer for a team that does not over use him. Gee, can you imagine what a pitching coach like Dave Duncan could do with a talent like his? Awesome.

Garret Anderson: While he has shown flashes of his greatness at time this year, I doubt he will return for an encore performance. With some pretty good talent in the wings for the Atlanta with Heyward and Scheffer, I think the money paid to him this season will be used elsewhere. Probably to re-sign Adam LaRoche to a two year contract.


Standings as of 9/23/09:



397 Responses to “88: Would you believe, we missed it by this much!”

  1. 1 Carolina Lady September 23, 2009 at 5:06 pm

    Gil, thanks so very much!! (Sorry I couldn’t get WP to format properly! Had to improvise.)


  2. 2 berigan2electricboogaloo September 23, 2009 at 7:11 pm

    Gil….Egggzactly!!! As my Mom used to say, many a mickle makes a muckle. And just looking it up, I now find out it should really be, “many a little makes a mickle” which doesn’t sound nearly as cool…

    And you make a very good point about the big turnaround 90 losses to a 10+ games over .500 record.


  3. 3 berigan2electricboogaloo September 23, 2009 at 7:17 pm

    CL said….My crystal ball says – one more season.

    Gil said…I am going with my original forecast and say he and Chipper retire together next season.

    A couple of psychics we have here! 🙂
    Anyone have any guesses to the winning numbers for Mega millions Friday??? 😀


  4. 5 Carolina Lady September 23, 2009 at 9:14 pm

    A quote from/about Chipper:

    “The 37-year-old Jones said the Braves will have added incentive next season to send Cox out a winner. But Jones said he isn’t sure he’ll stick around long enough to play for a different manager.”


  5. 6 flbravesgirl September 23, 2009 at 10:51 pm

    I think Chipper might do the farewell tour next year too. It seems to really be on his mind.


  6. 7 Gil in Mechanicsville September 23, 2009 at 11:49 pm

    Too hard on that old dog (Chipper) to learn new tricks I would say. I rest my case… 🙂


  7. 8 Gil in Mechanicsville September 23, 2009 at 11:53 pm

    And speaking of old dogs… If I didn’t know better, I would swear I have a kidney stone… Came on about an hour ago… Nothing to do but get up and try to will it into submission…

    Good game by the Braves again tonight. They have managed to turn the Mets into their b****es this season…


  8. 9 Gil in Mechanicsville September 24, 2009 at 1:13 am

    And now the reviews on some of the new shows on TV this season… Hey, it’s what DVRs are all about and O’Brien across the street isn’t the only person who can review shows….

    Glee on Fox… They have really hyped this show all summer. Catch it while you can if you are so inclined to watch really stupid shows because this turkey won’t be around for a second season.

    The Forgotten on ABC… Josie liked it, I gave it a thumbs down. Pretty unrealistic if you ask me. No way on this earth would the police ever let a bunch of amateurs get near a murder case. It’s almost as bad as Leverage….

    Eastwick it took me only 5 minutes to give this show a thumbs down. That’s how long it took the writers to inject the words: slut, boobies, and vibrator into the dialog. Free speech is one thing but give me a break folks…

    The Good Wife Wow, I really liked this one. Hey, one out of five isn’t too bad is it? Really good plot line, well acted and slick production makes this one my favorite so far. Very believable and well worth the hour (43 mins with DVR) of your time to watch it. Of course, my liking it makes it the one most likely to get canceled and replaced with reruns of the Amazing Race or something….


  9. 10 Gil in Mechanicsville September 24, 2009 at 1:15 am

    Okay, kidney stone has calmed down I think. Catch ya’ll in the morning.


  10. 11 Voice of Raisins September 24, 2009 at 8:49 am

    From Rosenthal’s column:

    Players come and go, even Hall of Fame players such as John Smoltz or Tom Glavine. But Cox, who has been with the Braves as a manager or GM in all but four seasons since 1978, is an institution, one of the best baseball men on the planet. Even if he is not the manager he once was, he needs to be treated with the respect he has earned.

    I could not agree more. Yesterday’s announcement set off a firestorm of immaturity and idiocy across the street. It was enough to make me nauseous. People can be extremely myopic at times and not have a single clue of which they speak. It is a product of a society we live in in which folks are no longer required to actually think for themselves anymore, rather simply regurgitate what they are fed.

    Has Bobby made questionable decisions at times? Yes. All managers do. Should this team have made the playoffs this season? I say no. Before the infusion of McLouth, Hanson and LaRoche, and the exit if Francoeur, they were no better than 4th place in their own division. Afterward, they became a .600 team. Great managers lead great teams to great things. Connie Mack could have done nothing with the April and May version of this team.

    One last thing… Joe Torre won with talent in NY. When the talent ran thin, he was run off and landed in LA. LA grew some talented kids and added Mannywood, and suddenly Torre can manage again. When LaRussa had McAndro in St. Louis, they won. Then he didn’t, and they didn’t. Then Pujols emerged and he wins again. Add Holliday to the mix and they are WS contenders. Amazing what a little talent can do for a manager.

    Has Cox lost something? Maybe, but he has plenty to spare. Give him the real Chipper Jones, a bona fide power bat in the cleanup spot and a lock down closer, and my money says he’ll suddenly resemble the HOF manager he is…


  11. 12 Salty September 24, 2009 at 8:52 am

    Yesterday’s announcement set off a firestorm of immaturity and idiocy across the street. It was enough to make me nauseous. People can be extremely myopic at times and not have a single clue of which they speak. It is a product of a society we live in in which folks are no longer required to actually think for themselves anymore, rather simply regurgitate what they are fed.

    Which is why I seldom go there…very seldom. Pretty 😦


  12. 13 Voice of Raisins September 24, 2009 at 9:11 am

    Yep, Salty. Unfortunately, there is no better source for “on the spot” info than the one beat writer for the team. I usually go across and look for the blue hilighted posts. Occasionally I suffer a lapse in judgment and peruse the other comments… bad idea. The place really has degenerated into a cesspool of b****ing and moaning from what appears to be a group primarily made up of insecure school kids looking to be some kind of bigshot. There are still a handful of posters that make a little sense, but sifting through the dung heap to find a jewel here and there is getting to where it really isn’t worth it. The inmates have taken over the asylum.


  13. 14 Voice of Raisins September 24, 2009 at 11:34 am

    Some of today’s Bobby news, courtesy of USA Gambling News (hey, I’ll scour everywhere for tidbits to satisfy my insatiable thirst for Braves info):

    “They asked me to come back, and I said I would do it for one more year, and we’ll announce the retirement along with it. It’s the only way I think I’m ever going to walk away from the game, is to go ahead and say I’m going to, and then I’ve got to,” Cox said. “There’s no turning back now — win, lose or draw. Whatever happens next year is going to be it.”

    Braves general manager Frank Wren has said that he will not begin to seek his replacement until next season and that Cox will assist him in searching for his successor.


  14. 15 Voice of Raisins September 24, 2009 at 11:37 am

    ABC news:

    “There is a little bit of relief once you come to grips with announcing it,” [Bobby] Cox said. “I’ve never lost the love to manage, period. But you have to make a decision. At my age, you have to make a decision. Somebody a little younger can start up.”


  15. 16 Voice of Raisins September 24, 2009 at 11:51 am

    4 games back in the WC with 10 to go – 7 against Washington, 3 against the Phish.

    Everybody’s clicking; even Chipper seems to be coming around a little. And it’s just us and Colorado now.

    Stranger things have happened…


  16. 17 Carolina Lady September 24, 2009 at 11:52 am

    Raisins, if ya check out the links I’ve posted, you woulda found those quotes. 😛


  17. 18 Carolina Lady September 24, 2009 at 11:54 am

    OK – it’s been there a couple of weeks now and none of y’all have noticed. Scroll up to KJ’s photo and check out the graphic to the right.


  18. 19 Voice of Raisins September 24, 2009 at 12:41 pm

    Yikes, CL… I missed the quotes… 😳

    Of course the B&S rates as “Very Good”. What else would you expect from such a collection of intellectuals and experts? 😆


  19. 20 Voice of Raisins September 24, 2009 at 12:46 pm

    CL… (Walking on eggshells here) I would never presume to tell you what to do, but FranMet’s picture on the banner is starting to creep me out. He’s a Met. A lousy, stinkin’ Met.

    Maybe TommyH or Yunel?

    😀 … Just sayin’…


  20. 21 Carolina Lady September 24, 2009 at 1:11 pm

    I’ll change it as soon as I get an afternoon free to make a new banner, Raisins. I’m trying as hard as I can to finish the research project I’ve been working on for the last 19? months so I’ve been pushing on that.

    Will do ASAP, I promise!

    BTW, you can click on the graphic I mentioned and leave your own comments and rating! I did!


  21. 22 Voice of Raisins September 24, 2009 at 1:15 pm

    19 month project… Not working on the HealthCare bill, are you? 😆


  22. 23 Voice of Raisins September 24, 2009 at 3:42 pm

    ESPN’s Jayson Stark:

    Yes, it looks all but certain that Tim Hudson will be returning to the Braves next year. But no, that doesn’t mean the Braves will look to trade Javier Vazquez.

    Clubs that have felt out the Braves on this came away with the feeling they’re more likely to deal someone like Jo-Jo Reyes than Vazquez or even Kenshin Kawakami, unless they’re offered a legit middle-of-the-order bat in return.

    Not so likely to return in Atlanta: The Braves’ prospective free-agent back-of-the-bullpen tandem of Rafael Soriano and Mike Gonzalez.


  23. 24 berigan2electricboogaloo September 24, 2009 at 5:16 pm

    I’m sure there are people that will be knocking down the door to get ol’ Jo-Jo! 😕 Man, funny how you put certain people out of your mind…like Chuck James.
    Looking at Jo-Jo’s stats…made 5 starts, 4 were absolutely…must watch language…. The Opposite of quality starts. Starts that should have been Tommy Hanson starts.
    Now looking for info on Jo-Jo….what happened to him??? He never pitched after hurting Hammy????


  24. 25 Gil in Mechanicsville September 24, 2009 at 5:43 pm

    Okay… Not to split hairs but how do you archive excellence? We (the blog body) already scoop everybody but Frank Wren on team predictions and evaluations. Folks could save themselves a lot of surfing just by reading our opines… No brag, just facts….


  25. 26 Carolina Lady September 24, 2009 at 6:49 pm

    But we only have a 7.8 blog rating, Gil!


  26. 27 flbravesgirl September 24, 2009 at 10:11 pm

    Gil, if I may respectfully disagree, I think Glee is very entertaining. Maybe it’s a generational difference because the whole high school social dynamic they’re portraying is dead-on accurate for me. But then again Dad & I love Leverage so maybe we just have really opposing tastes.


  27. 28 flbravesgirl September 24, 2009 at 10:17 pm

    And I just gave us a 10, CL. 😀


  28. 29 Carolina Lady September 24, 2009 at 10:30 pm

    All right, FBG!!! You go, girl!!! 😀


  29. 30 Carolina Lady September 24, 2009 at 10:35 pm

    Raisins, check out the banner. Just for you! Not as completely smooth as the other one but it’s the best I could do in the time I had! 🙂


  30. 31 flbravesgirl September 24, 2009 at 10:38 pm

    Good choice, CL. I think Yunel is a big part of our future.


  31. 32 Carolina Lady September 24, 2009 at 11:09 pm

    Thanks, FBG! I sure hope so!!

    zzzz-time! ‘Night!


  32. 33 berigan2electricboogaloo September 25, 2009 at 4:35 am

    I thought I was tough but fair, and gave us a 10!!!! 😀


  33. 34 berigan2electricboogaloo September 25, 2009 at 4:54 am

    Some did ya knows about former braves stuck in my head….
    Did ya know Corky Miller actually hit a home run the other day??? 😯 😯 It took some guy throwing an 85-86 hanging nothing pitch for it to happen, but I saw it!

    Did ya know Pete Orr had a Sac fly last night to help the Nats beat the Dodgers????

    Or that Ryan Langerhans hit a 2 run homer to win a game for the Mariners in the 10th, about a month ago??? Man, was I happy for him when I saw the highlights! 🙂

    or after being placed thru waivers many a time, with no team picking him up, Bryan Pena seems to have found a home with the Royals, hitting .269 in 145 AB’s????

    Must be some others, but this popped into my mind whilst watching baseball tonight…


  34. 35 Salty September 25, 2009 at 6:18 am

    And 3.5 games back with 10 to go? 😯 Who’d a thunk it two weeks ago? Let’s go Cards! Let’s go Cubs! Let’s go Mets! (Did I just say that?)

    Most of all: LET’S GO BRAVES! You never know.


  35. 36 Gil in Mechanicsville September 25, 2009 at 7:10 am

    Yes FBG, could explain my dismay over many choices of the X & Y generations….

    Good for them Ber, I never could understand why Bobby did not like Pena…

    I’ll bet there are at least three teams that hope the Braves fall short. They are about as hot as any team in the league right now and have such a strong pitching staff as to to be dangerous right now.

    That said, the Bravos need to take care of business and beat the NATs this weekend. More importantly… DON’T CHOKE!!!!


  36. 37 berigan2electricboogaloo September 25, 2009 at 7:54 am

    Hey, lets win it all, then Bobby could retire this offseason! 😀

    Kidding, kidding…I love the little feller….

    It would be one of the more amazing comebacks ever…


  37. 38 berigan2electricboogaloo September 25, 2009 at 7:55 am

    Man, check this out! Old Kanya West just won’t let his love of Beyonce rest!!!!


  38. 39 Voice of Raisins September 25, 2009 at 8:05 am

    CL: I absolutely love the banner. Thank you; I hope you didn’t do that just for little ol’ me. But I love it!!! 😀


  39. 40 Voice of Raisins September 25, 2009 at 8:12 am

    And 3.5 games back with 10 to go

    More importantly, only 3 back in the loss column.

    And whilst we have 7 with the Nats wrapped around 3 with the Fish, the Rox have 3 at home with St. Louie, 3 at home with Milwaukee, and finish with 3 at LA. Do you know how easily they could go 4-5 over their last 9?

    Plain and simple, the Braves HAVE to just win, and root hard for the Cards, Brewers and Dodgers.

    It’s not out of the realm of possibility…


  40. 41 Voice of Raisins September 25, 2009 at 8:27 am

    Our old friend, BAS, posted this across the street at 2:56am this morning:

    And, please, in the future, don’t again refer to me as a voice of reason. First, my drunken behind can’t reason. Second, it reminds me too much of the original Voice of Reason, and CL, and jjs, and SG, and bobj, and Berigan, and Gil, and FBG, and SJA, and the rest of those great folks who’ve left us.

    I believe I’ll lift a glass to the stubborn who’ve left us. I still miss ‘em.


  41. 42 Savannah Guy September 25, 2009 at 8:27 am

    Great lead Gil. Nicely done and spot on.

    Yep, Braves need to go 10-0 the rest of the way and, with any help from others, we could extend the season. Precarious but possible. Stranger things have happened. Go Braves!

    Of the Rox, Giants and Braves, the team that plays loose and doesn’t choke from the pressure will be in postseason.


  42. 43 Voice of Raisins September 25, 2009 at 9:01 am

    Braves vs. Nats – Javy Vazquez vs. John Lannan

    Rox vs. Cards – Aaron Cook vs. Cris Carpenter

    I like our chances to be only 2 back in the loss column after tonight…


  43. 44 Gil in Mechanicsville September 25, 2009 at 9:19 am

    The Nats do not have the offense they had earlier in the year.

    Down side is that once a team clinches, they tend to rest their regulars and that could happen with the Dodgers vs the Rockies.


  44. 45 Gil in Mechanicsville September 25, 2009 at 9:20 am

    The toughest series of the year may be the up coming one with the fish… Seems as if we have been saying that all season haven’t we?


  45. 46 berigan2electricboogaloo September 25, 2009 at 9:34 am

    3 out in the loss column??? interesting! Did not know that…

    Hey, that is the link by the by…I didn’t mess it up…


  46. 47 Voice of Raisins September 25, 2009 at 9:38 am

    Ber… you just love you some Kanye, dontcha?


  47. 48 berigan2electricboogaloo September 25, 2009 at 9:44 am

    V, I sure…don’t….there is nothing, NOTHING an artist can do today to derail his career. Murder, theft(of tangible and intangible items) the stuff Michael Jackson did….

    He is truly a joke though…which makes me smile a bit.
    Like this photo does


  48. 49 Salty September 25, 2009 at 9:47 am

    Down side is that once a team clinches, they tend to rest their regulars and that could happen with the Dodgers vs the Rockies.

    Good point…and frankly, the Dodgers know they’d get the Braves should they overtake the Rockies, Gigantes, Phish…etc. Do they want the trio of JV, JJ, Tommy and Huddy…or Wainwright, Carpenter…or Lee, Hamels. Upon further review…pick yer poison!

    Another item: are the Dodgers subs any worse than the Padres’ regulars? That didn’t work out so well for Colorado. BTW, I like that Venable! Can’t he play left? 😆


  49. 50 Salty September 25, 2009 at 9:48 am

    And yes…I know JV, JJ, Tommy and Huddy aren’t a trio…just couldn’t figger out who the third would be. Could you imagine TH as a closer in a short series?


  50. 51 Voice of Raisins September 25, 2009 at 9:59 am

    Do they want the trio of JV, JJ, Tommy and Huddy

    You count like Cardinal Ximinez of Spain… 😆


  51. 52 Salty September 25, 2009 at 10:17 am

    Hey! I was within one standard deviation! And…speaking of deviate…Raisins, you have issues! :mrgreen:


  52. 53 Voice of Raisins September 25, 2009 at 10:34 am



  53. 54 Gil in Mechanicsville September 25, 2009 at 10:57 am

    Why do I suddenly see where the Obama administration got it’s ideas to ban of torture from??? Perhaps it was the pointy soft cushions is what brought George Bush down…. 8)


  54. 55 Gil in Mechanicsville September 25, 2009 at 11:00 am

    I expect this will shown to the all CIA operatives as the approved interrogation methods. One that can be used in all 47 states…


  55. 56 Gil in Mechanicsville September 25, 2009 at 11:01 am

    Or maybe that was 57 states…. It’s so many the President and I forget … 🙂


  56. 57 berigan2electricboogaloo September 25, 2009 at 11:18 am

    57 Gil…he had 2-3 more to visit at the time…


  57. 58 Voice of Raisins September 25, 2009 at 11:19 am


    It didn’t take long Wednesday for general manager Frank Wren to go from talking about manager Bobby Cox’s impending retirement to at least a partial rundown of next season’s prospects.

    Only last week Wren was declining to discuss next season because, he said, he was so focused on the fact that the Braves were still in the playoff hunt. He didn’t want it to sound as though he were giving up on this team.

    But now he is willing to answer a few questions, such as how the Braves will fit six starters into five rotation spots.

    That assumes that Tim Hudson is one of the six. Hudson will be a free agent at the end of the season. He and the Braves have a mutual option for next year that must be exercised by the end of the World Series. Thus, it will be known fairly soon whether or not the Braves really do have a surplus of starters.

    As for the possible return of free-agent-to-be first baseman Adam LaRoche, Wren says he will have to see what the makeup of the club is, something that won’t crystallize until after the Hudson decision. The organization will have to decide whether some bench players now with the team are viable choices for next year, and which players and pitchers can be packaged to trade for whatever Wren thinks the team needs.

    The Braves’ payroll, Wren says, will be in the same range as this season’s, but the fact that so many young players could make up next year’s squad gives him more financial flexibility.

    By my humble estimation, that could be anywhere from $10-15MM, depending on how many guys walk away.


  58. 59 Gil in Mechanicsville September 25, 2009 at 11:26 am

    And how many are shoved out the door….


  59. 60 Voice of Raisins September 25, 2009 at 11:32 am

    Candidates to be elsewhere:

    Rochey – doesn’t really count, Boston is picking up the ’09 tab
    KJ – $2.825MM
    GAnderson – $2.5MM
    Starter among Huddy/JV/KK – $12MM/$11.5MM/$7.667MM
    Gonzo – $3.45MM
    Soriano – $6.1MM
    Norty – $0.8MM

    Now, my Jefferson math says that if we shed those salaries, and I’ll use the lower of the 3 starting pitcher’s for this discussion, that adds up to $23.342MM. Now, I’ve seen estimates for raises of existing players range anywhere from $6MM to $9MM, so we’ll go again with the highest estimate of $9MM. Again, my Jefferson math tells me that gives them around $14-15MM do spend in the offseason.

    How do you divide that up to fill your needs? Well, identify the needs. First, first… base. You can probably lock Rochey up for 3/$24MM, and I personally believe that to be the best course of action. So subtract $8MM and that leaves you $6-7MM. Closer? I’d stay in house and turn it over to Moylan. LF? Here’s where it gets a little dicey, in my book.

    Unless JHey just absolutely dominates the entire spring, I think he’ll start the season in AAA. I also think Schafer will be back in AAA given he has missed so much time over the last 2 seasons. So, what does that mean? That means you have to go out and find another outfielder. Diaz/Church is “adequate” for one spot, but Frank really has to supplement that “adequacy” with “above average” at the other. If it turns out to be JHey, fine. I think he’s at least a half-season away. I see him coming in June or so, relinquishing Diaz to the bench and Church to the trade market.

    The way I see it, the Braves will have an equivalent amount of money to spend on an outfield bat as they trade (or allow to walk, in Huddy’s case) away from the pool of 3 starters. And I would imagine the outfielder of choice may come back in that swap. Or, if Huddy walks, they have $12MM to spend in FA.

    Yep, that’s what Frank’s job is going to be measured by this offseason. How does he parlay the extra starter into an above average outfield bat? That will be the key to 2010.

    Amazing how simple it all is from the comfort of my desk, huh? 😀


  60. 61 Voice of Raisins September 25, 2009 at 11:36 am

    Wow… 😯 I went bold. Didn’t mean to… 🙄


  61. 62 Gil in Mechanicsville September 25, 2009 at 11:45 am

    I can’t see the Braves letting Hudson walk… Just can’t… Not to say he couldn’t be packaged for a middle of the order bat, after all, the Braves don’t sign contracts with NO-TRADE clauses.

    I am sure there are lots of guys some of the folks across the street would offer up but to be realistic, most of the scouts from other teams know who is junk and who is not.

    No “Cash for Clunkers” in baseball…. Then again, we got JJ for Edgar …

    Well, Richmond got a new baseball team yesterday. It is a AA team in the Eastern League and has a current affiliation with the Giants. From what I have read, the Giants have a very strong farm system.

    I doubt I could ever become a Giants fan but it will be nice to see some of the up and coming talent again. 90% of the fun for me in attending minor league baseball games is judging young players and predicting how they will fare.


  62. 63 Gil in Mechanicsville September 25, 2009 at 11:48 am

    The other 10% by the way are the hot dogs… 🙂


  63. 64 berigan2electricboogaloo September 25, 2009 at 11:50 am

    Amazing! 😀
    V, I know you and Gil are all for both Gonzo and Sorzo(Sorry) walking…but…it gets pretty dicey when you think how much they have been used. Who do we get that will be even better??? That won’t wear down from overuse??? What is Moylan can’t cut it as a closer??? It just seems we are giving up a ton of innings for what’s behind door #3, thats all.

    I also think from a financial standpoint, we should let Hudson go. Do we get a B pick at least??? I forget…I have heard varing stories on folks who have been injured if they are still A guys.

    Javy has a past of not liking to play out west, or Chicago. Too far from family in Puerto Rico…teams do know this. Who can we trade him to??? Are the Brewers too far??? Are teams going to give up much for Kawakami, who we are using from the Pen??? Not exactly building up trade value. And all 3 are in their early to mid 30’s, or will be next year.

    I don’t know what to do, but you could really be put in a bind if you HAVE to trade one of your 6 guys cuz you can’t afford them. Remember what happened with Millwood???

    I know, a different time.

    My lack of sleep answers???? dfgorbut9buiooighnr!

    Or, we could let Hudson go, get the picks…wait, have to offer arbitration, can you buy someone out, then offer arbitration??? So tired… I guess not. Have to keep him then, or risk getting nothing for him???
    Ah blankety blank. Let him go, and with the saved money on him and Gonzo, re-sign Sori, and get Matt Holliday! Surely we can outbid the Red Sox, Cards, Angels,….Hmmm, Jason Bay then????

    Did I mention I was sleepy????

    I don’t know if I know where the printout is, but there was a manager at Borders that wrote the most incomprehensible email ever in the history of emails, explaining what she had done that night(we managers had to work about one week of overnights every 6 weeks or so) Didn’t like her much, so I printed it out and showed to everyone that wasn’t in management! 😈

    I mean, it looked like she fell asleep at least once per sentence! 😆

    But, I have the strength of 10 ordinary men, ands stufss likee that donot happin to


  64. 65 Gil in Mechanicsville September 25, 2009 at 11:50 am

    I hope the Braves like rain because they are going to be getting wet tonight in DC….


  65. 66 berigan2electricboogaloo September 25, 2009 at 11:52 am

    But Gil, I thought more than 10% of the players were hotdogs! 🙂

    Oh, keep forgetting, Peter Gammons as an aside during highlights said Jason Heyward will be the rookie of the year, next year!!!! 😀 😀 😀


  66. 67 Voice of Raisins September 25, 2009 at 11:53 am

    Gil, I agree that the Braves will NOT let Huddy walk. However, that IS a mutual option, so he could… nah, I don’t see it. What I could see, though, is the Braves working out an extension that gives him a couple more years at a slightly lower yearly rate, say in the Rochey-like 3/$24-27MM range. I think he’d take less $$ for more years, and I think it’d be smart for the Braves as well.

    From some of the things I read, it sounds as though they want to keep both Huddy and Javy, and that KK has piqued the interest of a number of teams with his latest performances. His salary actually dips to $6.667MM for each of the remaining 2 years, a relatively friendly contract for a #3 starter. He could be attractive to a few teams…


  67. 68 Gil in Mechanicsville September 25, 2009 at 11:59 am

    Ber, the reason I am so ornery is from working rotating shifts for 30 years…. Funny thing but it always seems I would make my largest purchases while working mid-nights. Perhaps it weakened my resistance. I think sleep deprivation is another torture taboo now… 🙂

    Roll out the “comfy chair”


  68. 69 Voice of Raisins September 25, 2009 at 12:11 pm

    Have you got the stuffing up one end? 😆


  69. 70 Voice of Raisins September 25, 2009 at 12:27 pm

    Dreaming of 2010…


    Dang that is so strong!

    Regulars, in batting order:
    1. N8, CF
    2. Prado, 2B
    3. Chipper (returned to form), 3B
    4. new bopping LF
    5. Mac, C
    6. Yunel, SS
    7. Rochey, 1B
    8. Diaz/Church, RF

    Regulars, after June:
    1. N8, CF
    2. Yunel, SS
    3. Chipper (returned to form), 3B
    4. new bopping LF
    5. Mac, C
    6. JHey, RF
    7. Prado, 2B
    8. Rochey, 1B

    Petey, closer
    O’Flawhatever, setup
    Logan, lefty specialist
    Campillo (forgot about him, didn’t you?)
    Francisley Bueno/Luis Valdez/Vladimir Nunez

    Brooks Conrad
    Anyone NOT named Norton

    I like it!


  70. 71 Salty September 25, 2009 at 12:28 pm

    What I could see, though, is the Braves working out an extension that gives him a couple more years at a slightly lower yearly rate, say in the Rochey-like 3/$24-27MM range. I think he’d take less $$ for more years, and I think it’d be smart for the Braves as well.

    Raisins, while you may have issues…you’re also very smart! 😆 I whole-heartedly agree with you and, should Wren muck this up, I nominate you to replace him as GM! Rock solid thoughts, dude! You keep it simple and focused…don’t seek rocket science where it ain’t needed! No PC, no fence-straddling…no over-thinking the process. Straight to the issue and resolve it!

    You need an assistant GM?


  71. 72 Voice of Raisins September 25, 2009 at 12:29 pm

    Or maybe…

    Regulars, after June:
    1. N8, CF
    2. Yunel, SS
    3. Chipper (returned to form), 3B
    4. new bopping LF
    5. Mac, C
    6. JHey, RF
    7. Rochey, 1B
    8. Prado, 2B



  72. 73 Voice of Raisins September 25, 2009 at 12:32 pm

    And when JV leaves via FA in 2011, lefty Mike Minor becomes the new 5th starter to follow Huddy, JJ, THanson and DLowe. Sweet!


  73. 74 Voice of Raisins September 25, 2009 at 12:41 pm

    Since we are in dream mode…

    Regulars in 2011:
    1. Schafer, CF
    2. Prado, 2B
    3. JHey, RF
    4. Yunel, 3B
    5. Mac, C
    6. N8, LF
    7. Freddie Freeman, 1B
    8. Mycal Jones, SS http://www.talkingchop.com/2009/6/10/904933/recapping-the-braves-2009-draft


  74. 75 Salty September 25, 2009 at 1:00 pm

    Freeman will be traded…if LaRoche is signed. More value in that scenario. That would be a good time to snare an up and coming catcher. We need to know if this year was an aberration for B Mac, or if he’s wearing down from catching. If that, perhaps he can become a first baseman…so long as his hitting returns to form, which it seems to be. As a catcher, he’s good, but he’s not ‘all that’…IMO.


  75. 76 Voice of Raisins September 25, 2009 at 1:22 pm

    Salty, the Braves have a young catcher in the system named Christian Betancourt that they are pretty high on. He’s very young, though, and several years away.


  76. 77 Voice of Raisins September 25, 2009 at 1:32 pm

    And I think if you sign Rochey to a 3 year deal, and Freeman is ready at mid-season of the 2nd year, which he very well could be, then you have a mighty nice trade chip in Rochey for 1 1/2 seasons, which includes 2 2nd halves. Just sayin’…


  77. 78 Carolina Lady September 25, 2009 at 1:54 pm

    I second Salty’s nomination of Raisins for GM! 😀


  78. 79 Voice of Raisins September 25, 2009 at 5:19 pm

    2night’s lineup:

    1. N8, CF
    2. Marteeen, 2B
    3. Chipper, 3B
    4. Mac,C
    5. Yunel, SS
    6. GA, LF
    7. MattyD, RF
    8. Rochey, 1B
    9. JV, P


  79. 80 Gil in Mechanicsville September 25, 2009 at 5:54 pm

    Water wings may be in order…. While it is not raining hard, it has been pretty steady. About an inch so far. I think the forecast is for it to stop around mid-day Sunday.

    Really, I should have anticipated this as the Virginia State Fair opened Friday. Great rain maker… Invented by the native Americans when they got tired of dancing.

    I like the line up but I think it will be tweaked a bit by spring. I have a feeling that Schaffer will begin the season since it will no longer make a difference as far as starting his arbitration eligibility. I am pretty sure the wrist injury was the cause of his dramatic drop off in offense. Still… We will have to see how it goes in spring training.


  80. 81 Gil in Mechanicsville September 25, 2009 at 6:04 pm

    I think Yunel is going to outlast Bobby, I can’t see Frank Wren letting him go and it is Frank who is calling the personnel shots now. He might ask Bobby his opinion and then again he might not. Remember, no GM ever got fired by a manager…. No matter how iconic and especially one who only has one year left in the dugout.

    Funny how we are talking about improving the team right now and to be honest, that is one great team Atlanta has on the field right now. Imagine if Chipper were playing up to his potential. Sure, another bat never hurts, especially one that can generate instant offense.


  81. 82 Gil in Mechanicsville September 25, 2009 at 6:10 pm

    And one more word… Just a comment about Barbra Walters attack on Paula Dean… I think Barbra is jealous because about the only thing she knows how to fix are elections and brews made with the hair of dogs and the eye of newt…

    Another reason I cannot stand The View which should really be called The Slant


  82. 83 Gil in Mechanicsville September 25, 2009 at 6:11 pm

    I would have used another word but this is a family blog….


  83. 84 Carolina Lady September 25, 2009 at 6:17 pm

    “Invented by the native Americans when they got tired of dancing.”

    Gil, you can ask Miss Josie – that dancin’ ain’t what it’s cracked up to be! You get cramps in your legs after a while, your back gets tired – and most of the time the boys on the drums have a bottle tucked under their shirts somewhere – and after a while they lose the beat or each one keeps his own different beat and all the dancers start bumpin’ into each other and stuff…. Just no fun at all!


  84. 85 Gil in Mechanicsville September 25, 2009 at 6:42 pm

    Thus the “fair” idea… I rest my case… 🙂


  85. 87 berigan2electricboogaloo September 25, 2009 at 7:12 pm

    Gil, a line from the 1939 film The Women….fits the view to a T, IMHO!

    Oh, and by the way, there’s a name for you ladies,
    but it isn’t used in high society, outside of a kennel.” ~ A quote from Joan Crawford’s character Crystal Allen



  86. 88 Carolina Lady September 25, 2009 at 8:26 pm

    Good one, Ber! If it doesn’t involve Braves baseball, I pretty much don’t watch it. ‘Cept 2 or 3 mother-daughter things – ie – American Idol, Nashville Star. And there are times I’d just as soon not watch that! But – parents sometimes do things they don’t really want to for their kids. 😆


  87. 89 Gil in Mechanicsville September 25, 2009 at 8:33 pm

    Sigh… Gone are the days when you had those great tag lines from movies. Now, they are just base and crude. The epic put downs are those which leave no doubt to their meaning but do not debase the speaker.


  88. 90 Carolina Lady September 25, 2009 at 8:51 pm

    It’s called ‘class’, Gil! Not a lot of it in Tinseltown!


  89. 91 flbravesgirl September 26, 2009 at 1:21 am

    I watch very few movies anymore. Most of them now are weird, stupid, excessively violent or depressing & sometimes all of the above. They’ve even managed to ruin the Bond franchise.


  90. 92 flbravesgirl September 26, 2009 at 1:23 am

    And I read about what happened on The View. Appalling behavior to attack a guest that way, especially one as sweet & gracious as Paula.


  91. 93 Salty September 26, 2009 at 7:45 am

    FBG…shows like that have become the personal podiums of the host(esses). As long as viewers tune in and advertising dollars are paid, it’s guest beware. Pretty sad when shows are held to blindside the guest with personal agendas. What goes around, comes around.


  92. 94 Carolina Lady September 26, 2009 at 8:27 am

    from SI:

    “WASHINGTON(AP) Bobby Cox sat in his chair, his post-game victory cigar lit and watched a game on television.

    Just minutes after he watched Javier Vazquez throw a complete game to keep his Atlanta Braves ‘ flickering wild card hopes alive, Cox was rooting for the St. Louis Cardinals.

    The Braves began Friday night 3 1/2 games behind Colorado for the NL wild card, and after Vazquez stifled the Washington Nationals with a three-hitter in Atlanta’s 4-1 victory, Cox had his eyes on the Cardinals-Rockies game.

    ”They need to beat those mountain boys up a little bit,” Cox said.

    But the Rockies won 2-1, keeping Atlanta 3 1/2 games back.

    Cox was able to relax as he watched the Colorado game because he saw Vazquez throw his third complete game of the season and second in three starts. Vazquez (15-9) allowed a leadoff home run to Josh Bard , his sixth, in the eighth inning. Vazquez also gave a leadoff single to Willie Harris in the first and a one-out double to Ryan Zimmerman in the fourth. He retired 11 straight between Zimmerman’s double and Bard’s homer.

    Vazquez, who won his fifth straight, struck out seven and walked one. He is 10-2 since July 7.

    ”Nowadays, there are not a lot of complete games,” Vazquez said. ”When I’m on the mound, I want to throw eight, nine innings.”

    The Braves have won four straight and 12 of 14.

    ”It’s important for us to win every game from now on because Colorado is ahead,” Vazquez said. ”We’re playing great defense.”

    While the Braves are playing great defense, the Nationals are not. Three of Atlanta’s four runs were unearned. The fourth came on Martin Prado ‘s homer in the ninth.

    Vazquez walked to the mound with a 2-0 lead, thanks to a madcap first inning.

    With two outs, Chipper Jones lined a ball at right fielder Josh Willingham , which he said he lost in the lights. Jones was awarded a single. After Brian McCann walked, Yunel Escobar ‘s grounder went through second baseman Pete Orr ‘s legs for a two-base error, scoring Jones. Garret Anderson ‘s fly ball fell between center fielder Justin Maxwell and left fielder Harris for a base hit to score McCann.

    ”You get the extra at-bat, you’ve got to take them when you get them,” Cox said.

    All season long, the Nationals, who lost for the 101st time, have given their opponents a lot of extra at-bats. They have committed 135 errors – by far the most in major leagues.

    ”Basically, we’re in a funk here where if it can go wrong, it’s going to go wrong,” Washington interim manager Jim Riggleman said.

    On Thursday, Washington became the first National League team in 35 years to lose 100 games in consecutive seasons.

    John Lannan (9-13) allowed two unearned runs in seven innings for the Nationals, who lost for the 101st time – one shy of last year’s total. Lannan threw a season-high 122 pitches, losing for the fourth time in his last five starts. He allowed six hits, walked three and struck out six and refused to blame his team’s shoddy defense.

    ”It’s going to happen, it just happened all together,” Lannan said.

    The Braves added a third unearned run in the eighth when Escobar led off with a sinking line drive to center that Maxwell couldn’t catch. Shortstop Ian Desmond retrieved it and threw wildly, allowing Escobar to reach second. He moved to third on an infield out and scored on Matt Diaz ‘s single.

    NOTES: Vazquez is 10-2 on the road, but just 5-7 at Turner Field. … Escobar, Atlanta’s SS, hasn’t committed an error in 44 games – a career high. … Washington C Wil Nieves missed his seventh straight game with a strained hamstring. … Bard’s home run was the 109th allowed by the Braves – lowest in the majors.

    15-9, 2.83 ERA
    9.0 Innings
    1 ER
    Pitches-Strikes: 103-71
    Ground Balls-Fly Balls: 9-10
    Batters Faced – 31

    Oh, yeah!


  93. 95 Salty September 26, 2009 at 10:52 am

    And the Braves might trade him? 🙄 Yes, history says he doesn’t put up back to back good seasons, but…has he been in a place he likes…is comfortable and, thus, feels confident when he takes the hill? Watching his body language and how he engages his teammates, he strikes me as someone who’s ‘in a good place’, and that translates into performance.

    Full disclosure: I am not a psychologist! 😆


  94. 96 Carolina Lady September 26, 2009 at 11:03 am

    But you stayed in a Holiday Inn Express last night, Salty? And I agree with you! I sure hope he stays!

    1:05 game today – for the very few who may have television access to it!


  95. 97 Carolina Lady September 26, 2009 at 11:06 am

    Braves downplay steroids report
    By David O’Brien

    The Atlanta Journal-Constitution

    WASHINGTON — Liberty Media, which owns the Braves, also owns a nutrition company that is allegedly selling steroids on the Internet, the New York Times reported Friday.

    The newspaper reported that court papers unsealed Thursday said that BodyBuilding.com is selling dietary supplements containing steroids and designer steroids including Madol, one of the substances found in the now-famous raid on the Bay Area Laboratory Co-operative (BALCO) in 2003.

    Liberty Media paid more than $100 million for a controlling interest in BodyBuilding.com in 2008. The company, which purchased the Braves from Time Warner in 2007, has interests in an array of businesses including DirectTV, Ticketmaster and QVC.

    The Braves were mentioned in the first sentence of the Times story, although there were no allegations of any connection between the team and BodyBuilding.com.

    “While we have a common ownership, we are run as an independent unit,” said Braves president John Schuerholz. “And as a baseball organization, we stand by and support Major League Baseball’s high standards of operation.”

    When asked if that was a reference to the league’s drug-testing policy, Schuerholz said, “All standards. Every single one of them. No further comment need be made on the subject.”


  96. 98 Voice of Raisins September 26, 2009 at 12:38 pm

    Sounds like a non-story to me…


  97. 99 Voice of Raisins September 26, 2009 at 12:45 pm

    And the Braves might trade him?

    Actually, Salt-dude, I am now convinced to the contrary. I believe they’ll keep both JV and Huddy, and seek a trade for KK. Failing that, they may keep ’em all.

    Javy was mighty impressive last night. He is the best pitcher in the NL right now, and might be a runaway Cy Young candidate if a few more runs had crossed the plate in some of his starts.

    By the way, what does it say about Bobby, as opposed to other managers like, say, Ozzie Guillen, that Javy is having such a great season after coming to the Bravos? Maybe there are intangibles at play other than measurable things such as how many times Norton strolls to the plate? Just sayin’…


  98. 100 Salty September 26, 2009 at 1:17 pm

    By the way, what does it say about Bobby, as opposed to other managers like, say, Ozzie Guillen,…

    Yes, as I was opining earlier, the exact thought went through my mind. Motivation by intimidation has never been particularly effective over the long haul….like, say, two-three weeks and beyond! Reminds me of a t-shirt my son wears: The beatings will continue until morale improves! 😆 Hmmm…much to be said for ’cause and effect’!

    Speaking of off the wall t-shirt phrases, the afore-mentioned son has a very dry wit that he expresses through his t-shirt choices. One in particular is a lovely pink one that states: Meat is murder. Tasty, tasty murder.

    Kinda hard to argue the point!


  99. 101 Voice of Raisins September 26, 2009 at 1:18 pm

    Braves are playin’, already scored 4 in the 1st and still batting.


  100. 102 Gil in Mechanicsville September 26, 2009 at 1:19 pm

    Watching the game… The Nationals defense is so bad it’s sad and funny at the same time. You just don’t know if to laugh or cry…


  101. 103 Voice of Raisins September 26, 2009 at 1:20 pm

    Don’t you know a pitcher loves to come to bat before he steps on mound?


  102. 104 Voice of Raisins September 26, 2009 at 1:20 pm

    … uh, on THE mound… 😳


  103. 105 Gil in Mechanicsville September 26, 2009 at 1:22 pm

    The Bad News Bears meet Major Leagues… That’s the Nationals


  104. 106 Voice of Raisins September 26, 2009 at 1:34 pm

    They suck… 😯


  105. 107 Gil in Mechanicsville September 26, 2009 at 1:38 pm

    Pretty much….


  106. 108 Voice of Raisins September 26, 2009 at 1:40 pm

    Boog called their logo “the Walgreens ‘W'”. It is very close… 😆


  107. 109 Voice of Raisins September 26, 2009 at 1:49 pm

    From the “Oh, OK. Whatever…” dept.:

    The Braves released Johm Halama yesterday.


  108. 110 Gil in Mechanicsville September 26, 2009 at 2:53 pm

    Yes Raisins but they play more like they were bought at Wal-Mart…


  109. 111 Gil in Mechanicsville September 26, 2009 at 2:56 pm

    Except for Morse, might have a keeper in that one


  110. 112 Salty September 26, 2009 at 3:10 pm

    I didn’t know the Braves had Halama…where was he hidden?


  111. 113 Carolina Lady September 26, 2009 at 3:38 pm

    Halama? Whozzat?

    Salty, love the T-shirts!!! High-five to son!


  112. 114 Carolina Lady September 26, 2009 at 5:56 pm

    By Matt Palmer / Special to MLB.com

    09/26/09 5:27 PM ET

    WASHINGTON — The Braves have the swagger of a playoff team and are playing like one that belongs there as well.

    Atlanta handled its business early Saturday and padded its lead late, beating host Washington, 11-5, before 29,058 fans at rain-soaked Nationals Park.

    Most importantly, the win pulled the Braves within three games of the Rockies, who lead the National League Wild Card race. Colorado is scheduled to host the Cardinals on Saturday at 8:10 p.m. ET.

    After his team wrapped up its fifth straight victory, Braves manager Bobby Cox said he could get used to winning.

    “It’s getting to be a lot more fun,” Cox said with a smile.

    Atlanta scored four runs in the top of the first inning and added one run apiece in the second and fourth.

    Yunel Escobar had a single to drive in two of the first-inning runs and later scored when Nationals third baseman Pete Orr committed a throwing error on a Matt Diaz single. Brian McCann had previously scored on the play.

    Atlanta starter Tommy Hanson earned the win, going seven innings while giving up four runs and four hits. He struck out seven Washington batters and walked one.

    Hanson (11-4) coasted for the first four innings, but encountered trouble during the fifth, when he gave up a three-run home run to Mike Morse. Morse pinch-hit for Nationals starter Garrett Mock and belted his first home run of the season to center field.

    Hanson previously allowed a walk to Josh Bard to lead off the inning, and then gave up a single to Alberto Gonzalez.

    The Braves were monitoring weather reports and believed that more rain was on the way. Cox thinks that might have gotten into his pitcher’s head as his team was a half-inning away from an official game.

    “I thought Hanson probably rushed himself a bit in the fifth inning,” Cox said. “He threw some strikes, but Morse hit that one nine miles.”

    The one inning did little to dampen an overall strong performance from Hanson, who has now thrown more than 186 innings between Triple-A and the Major Leagues this year.

    Hanson said of his fifth-inning struggles: “I switched up what I was doing to begin with. I definitely learned my lesson.”

    The Braves are now 50-30 in their past 80 games. Cox said the team has the talent to be a 100-win club now through a whole season.

    “I think we’re pretty good right now,” Cox said. “It’s different look, that’s for sure. There are no easy outs in our lineup and we have good starting pitching.”

    The lineup held up its end of the bargain, as every starter except Hanson had a hit. Washington’s Garrett Mock gave up seven of the Atlanta’s 13 hits and exited after five innings.

    “Every time you get a lot of runs early, it helps out a lot,” Hanson said. “It was nice to have that four-run lead and they just kept adding them on there.”

    The Braves provided insurance in the ninth inning, getting an RBI double from Chipper Jones. McCann then hit a two-run home run to make the score 9-4.

    “That was a big one … for us,” Cox said of McCann’s home run. “[The Nationals] have a nice hitting team. It doesn’t seem like too many leads are safe.”

    Escobar and Adam LaRoche each later drove in runs to turn a once close game into a rout.

    When Elijah Dukes scored for Washington in the bottom of the ninth, it was of little concern to Atlanta.

    “We’re grinding it out and worrying about our own house,” Cox said. “That’s all we can do.”

    The Atlanta players are buying into Cox’s line of thinking late in the season as well.

    “Every part of our game is just clicking,” said McCann. “We just need to keep it up and just keep winning games.” He continued: “You don’t feel like you have to come to the field every day and be ‘the guy.’ [Nos.] 1-8 through the order can get the job done. It’s great to know that.” McCann said that the Braves’ pitching staff will keep the team in the hunt.

    “That’s how you win championships,” McCann. “We can hit as well. Every part of our game right now is playing great.”

    Matt Palmer is a contributor to MLB.com. This story was not subject to the approval of Major League Baseball or its clubs


  113. 115 Gil in Mechanicsville September 26, 2009 at 7:16 pm

    On Pete Orr’s “throwing error” in the first inning… You had to see it to appreciate the futility of it all. He went to fake a throw and the ball slipped out of his hand so that he literally threw it backwards to the shortstop from the infield.

    He wasn’t the only one out there for the Nats stinking it up either. Dukes and Dunn both had some bone headed plays. I would say it’s a tough time to be a Nats fan. Much like the mid 80’s for the Braves…

    VaTech crushed Miami today in the rain at Blacksburg. I think it is going to be a year of upsets in the college ranks. Any given Saturday I would say…. Hint, don’t bet on anybody unless you have money you don’t really want to see again. If you do, mail it to me and I will take it off your hands… 🙂


  114. 116 Gil in Mechanicsville September 26, 2009 at 11:22 pm

    Cards win… Braves 2 1/2 back… Let’s do this thing… 🙂


  115. 117 berigan2electricboogaloo September 27, 2009 at 12:03 am

    WOW!!!!! 😯 😯 😯
    Unlike the rest of you, I have never given up on this swell team! 😛


  116. 118 Voice of Raisins September 27, 2009 at 12:30 am

    2 1/2 games… I love it! Playing meaningful games in the last week. It’s as if the playoffs have already begun; and for all practical purposes, they have.

    Go Bravos!


  117. 119 Salty September 27, 2009 at 8:48 am

    Raisins…change your avatar back NOW! The Braves won with the other…don’t jinx ’em!


  118. 120 Gil in Mechanicsville September 27, 2009 at 11:23 am

    2 hours to game time, will have the house in “sports bar” mode today. The NASCAR race on one TV and the Wild Card race on another.

    Best joke I have seen in a while came via an e-mail recently. Conan O’Brian on the Tonight Show said that a group of Native Americans had filed suit in Federal court as the found the name Washington Redskins to be objectionable, in an effort to appease them, the club announced the club will become the Maryland Redskins…. 🙂


  119. 121 Gil in Mechanicsville September 27, 2009 at 11:30 am

    It has turned into a pretty day here. One thing about the rain is the washing out of the pollutants.

    I took Josie fishing Friday. It was a miserable day… Just too hot. We are going to try again Tuesday or Wednesday when the temperatures are predicted to be lower.


  120. 122 Carolina Lady September 27, 2009 at 9:21 pm

    The Braves win, are 2.5 back in the WC and y’all are silent. You’ve gotta be out somewhere plotting! But plotting what??
    Hmmmm. This could be scary!


  121. 123 Salty September 27, 2009 at 10:16 pm

    ‘fraid to say anything until Raisin reverts his avatar. Rockies won, so the bad karma’s already begun!



  122. 124 flbravesgirl September 27, 2009 at 11:42 pm

    Where was everyone today?

    I have to say I’m proud of this team. Everyone had written them off & they’ve fought their way back into the race. I realize the odds are still very much against them but this is a lot more fun than last year & gives me great hope for next year.


  123. 125 Gil in Mechanicsville September 28, 2009 at 1:45 am

    Well, Denny comes in 22nd, two laps down. Redskins stink up the joint in Pontiac and lose to the Lions… Braves win and so do the Rockies… Was pretty nice ending for the Braves however. Moylan pitched lights out I thought. Okay, gave up a lead-off triple but then came back to be un-hittable.

    Braves pretty much control their own destiny right now and that’s all you can ask.

    By the way, Ken Burns new series on National Parks is very good.


  124. 126 Savannah Guy September 28, 2009 at 7:04 am

    The Cards came so close to tying that game yesterday in the 9th, but for a spectacular catch. Game of inches. Lady Luck and all, so the Braves remain 2.5 back. Rockies are playing like a team of destiny.

    Rox have a tough schedule coming up, so the Braves have to just keep winning. Playoffs or not, they’re making it interesting.

    Gil, I also saw that Redskin joke. A good’un. Same goes for Ken Burns’ National Parks series. Good stuff.

    Off to the races…


  125. 127 Voice of Raisins September 28, 2009 at 7:51 am

    I asked the boss for a raise this morning… I told me, “no.”

    It’s tough to be the boss sometimes… 😦


  126. 128 Voice of Raisins September 28, 2009 at 8:48 am

    Iran rears its ugly head yet again. (If that wasn’t bad enough, Hillary reared her ugly head after many weeks of relative absence.):


    Can you remember when despot ruled countries feared flexing their “might”? Israel had better take care of this quickly. If they don’t, they won’t be around much longer. Obamski has all but said they’re on their own…


  127. 129 Gil in Mechanicsville September 28, 2009 at 9:36 am

    Lest I go into a lengthy triad on why I think the US is an untrustworthy ally for any country (something Anwar Sedat saw 40 years ago). Let me just say that the world is having a big laugh at the US’s expense right now.

    The Irani’s committed a blatant act of war against the US when they seized the US Embassy during Carter’s Administration with almost no consequence. Why would they worry now? They will build their bomb and continue to tweak America’s nose at every opportunity.

    As for Hilliary, I can’t ever remember a Secretary of State being more marginalized than our current one.


  128. 130 Gil in Mechanicsville September 28, 2009 at 9:38 am

    Now sports…sorta … Are there two teams who more aptly represent Washington DC than the Nationals and the Redskins????


  129. 131 Voice of Raisins September 28, 2009 at 10:03 am

    FOXsports’ Insde Pitch:

    Chipper Jones has been getting phone calls from general manager Frank Wren constantly since even before spring training, seeking Jones’ opinion on everything. Not surprisingly, that has been done behind the scenes.

    In the last week, Jones has been at work behind the scenes, too, sending his opinion — unasked for at the moment — on the re-signing of Adam LaRoche. And just to be sure Wren gets the message, Jones is going on the record with it as well.

    Yes, LaRoche is his hunting buddy. No, Jones would not make such an issue out of bringing LaRoche back if he couldn’t help the team. Especially not in public.

    The sticking points to offering a contract to LaRoche this offseason are: his well-known slow first halves at the plate — the Braves have too much first-hand experience with that to ignore it; the fact that the Braves have less expensive first base options in the minor league system — Barbaro Canizares at Class AAA Gwinnett and Freddie Freeman, who finished the season at Class AA Mississippi; and the assumption that LaRoche, a free agent at the end of this season, could command a multiyear offer from other clubs.

    The Braves would want LaRoche for two years at the most. One would think an offer longer than that would materialize somewhere, and that LaRoche would take it. LaRoche loves playing for the Braves, and his family loves the time it spends in Atlanta, but there are limits.

    OK.. that’s the first time ANYWHERE that I have seen Barbaro Canizares’ name even in the same zip code with the 2010 Braves’ first base job. Would the Braves consider him as a 1-year stopgap while FF seasons in Gwinnett? I guess he’ll need someplace to go, huh?


  130. 134 Voice of Raisins September 28, 2009 at 11:42 am

    Wisdom through satire… of course, there is the question of exactly how much is satire, and how much is accurate:


  131. 135 Voice of Raisins September 28, 2009 at 11:43 am

    I had this great link on “20 tips to improve your memory”, but now I can’t seem to find it…


  132. 137 Voice of Raisins September 28, 2009 at 1:30 pm

    According to Adam Rubin of the NY Daily News, Julio Franco, who managed the Mets’ Gulf Coast League affiliate, has been fired.



  133. 138 Voice of Raisins September 28, 2009 at 5:18 pm

    For what it’s worth, SI’s Jon Heyman predicts that Rochey will get 3yrs/$25MM on his next deal..


  134. 139 Voice of Raisins September 28, 2009 at 5:34 pm

    2night’s lineup:

    1. N8, CF
    2. Marteeen, 2B
    3. Chipper, 3B
    4. Mac, C
    5. GA, LF
    6. Esco, SS
    7. Rochey, 1B
    8. MattyD, RF
    9. JJ, P


  135. 140 berigan2electricboogaloo September 28, 2009 at 7:16 pm

    You know, I have to question who would give LaRoche a 3 year contract. I can’t think of a team, short of the Mutts(If Delgado can’t come back) that might need a 1st baseman.
    Any guesses???
    Myself, signing a guy for 2 years that has hit .247 over the last 3 years, pre all star break(and remember, that is about 90 games each year before the break, not 81 or so like it used to be)just doesn’t make sense, in spite of what he has done so far this year. We need a guy who hits both halves of a season.
    I’d rather sign Aubrey Huff, for a year or two….


  136. 141 berigan2electricboogaloo September 28, 2009 at 8:44 pm

    Man, small crowd at the game! Folks need to show up the next few days!


  137. 142 Salty September 28, 2009 at 10:06 pm

    I’ll take LaRoche…warts and all. He’s a third of Texeira and gets about as hot when it counts.

    Two games…hmmm….


  138. 143 Gil in Mechanicsville September 28, 2009 at 10:54 pm

    Another nail biter tonight… Great clutch pitching by the Braves, 2 games back now… Seriously, who would have thunk it???


  139. 144 Gil in Mechanicsville September 29, 2009 at 6:48 am

    And yes, I’d have to agree with Salty, old Roachie has made a big difference in the team’s mojo. I like Kotchman, I still believe he is an everyday first baseman. I think he would be a good fit for the Rockies as a long term replacement for Helton who is getting a bit long in the tooth.

    One name guy I think of every time Norton comes up to bat is Dwayne Ward. That guy was definitely a top self pinch hitter. The Braves really missed his bat after he departed the Braves and bolted to the Cubs for not really that much money.

    Fall arrived here yesterday afternoon. Love it…. We will finish closing down the pool today.

    And the mention of Barbaro (the Cuban, not the horse) yesterday as a possible first base option for the Braves… HAHAHAHAHAHA….

    The guy may be able to hit a little bit but he would make Scott Thorman look like a Gold Glover. Maybe as a pinch hitter in place of Norton but seriously, the guy can’t catch a cold….


  140. 145 berigan2electricboogaloo September 29, 2009 at 8:42 am

    One name guy I think of every time Norton comes up to bat is Dwayne Ward

    You know, he was good, but you know who was really a good pinch hitter??? Daryle Ward!!! 😛

    Seriously, I that the name was right…but then I went searching for into on him, and couldn’t find any! Was that a college basketball player???

    Daryle Ward had an “off” year in 2008 with the cubs, 4 Hr’s and 17 RBI’s and a .216 BA. And didn’t play for anyone this year!!! How do those numbers compare to Norton’s .136 BA 0 Hrs and 6 RBI’s????

    IF the Braves don’t make it to the playoffs, it will likely be Jason Giambi’s fault. After being released by the A’s the Rockies signed him(I don’t even think he is eligible for the playoffs, but you never know with injury cases) in 18 offical AB’s(He has walked 7 times) he’s hitting .389 with 2 HR’s and 11 RBI’s!!! .560 OBP!!!!


  141. 146 berigan2electricboogaloo September 29, 2009 at 8:43 am

    ut then I went searching for info on him


  142. 147 berigan2electricboogaloo September 29, 2009 at 8:43 am

    HA! Cut the b off of But!!! eye r gud.


  143. 148 berigan2electricboogaloo September 29, 2009 at 11:37 am

    Everyone has braves fever, and can’t post today??? 😛


  144. 149 Voice of Raisins September 29, 2009 at 12:24 pm

    Workin’ hard today, Ber…


  145. 150 Gil in Mechanicsville September 29, 2009 at 2:10 pm

    Josie had me outside working today… Whew.. I used to be able to work 10 hours straight without a break and now I can hardly go 10 minutes.

    Anyway, the pool is done for the season. I think I will look into buying a heater for the pool so we can use it later into the season.

    We managed to pile another load of stuff onto the utility trailer to haul off to the land fill. How in the world did we accumulate so much junk and why did we think we needed it in the first place?

    Yes Ber, you are right, it is Daryle Ward. Hey, at 5 AM it is amazing I can even remember his first name started with a D.


  146. 151 Gil in Mechanicsville September 29, 2009 at 2:28 pm

    After having dug to a depth of 10 feet last year, New York Scientists found
    traces of copper wire dating back 100 years and came to the conclusion, that
    their ancestors already had a telephone network more than 100 years ago.

    Not to be outdone by the New Yorkers, in the weeks that followed, a California
    archaeologist dug to a depth of 20 feet, and shortly after, a story in the LA
    Times read: ‘ California archaeologists, finding traces of 200 year old copper
    wire, have concluded that their ancestors already had an advanced high-tech
    communications network a hundred years earlier than the New Yorkers.’

    One week later, The Richmond Times Dispatch, a local newspaper in Richmond, VA
    reported the following: After digging as deep as 30 feet in his pasture near
    Powhatan, VA, Bubba Brown, a self-taught archaeologist, reported that he found
    absolutely nothing. Bubba has therefore concluded that 300 years ago, VA had
    already gone wireless.

    Makes me proud to be a Virginian… 🙂


  147. 152 Voice of Raisins September 29, 2009 at 3:57 pm

    2night’s lineup:

    1. N8, CF
    2. Marteeen, 2B
    3. Chipper, 3B
    4. Mac, C
    5. GA, LF
    6. Esco, SS
    7. Rochey, 1B
    8. MattyD, RF
    9. Huddy, P

    Looks alot like last night’s lineup…


  148. 153 Carolina Lady September 29, 2009 at 6:27 pm

    You might have seen this before, but if you did, watch it again:

    Welcome Home

    And if you don’t watch it, you need a kick in the be-hind!


  149. 154 Salty September 29, 2009 at 6:54 pm

    Dagnabit, CL!!! 😥 That hits too close to home!

    Thanks…can never take things for granted! 🙂 At least I don’t get a kick!


  150. 155 Carolina Lady September 29, 2009 at 7:38 pm

    Salty, it’s my personal mission to see that every military person gets the honor and recognition they deserve. I’ve never put in one single day in the service of my country. They have taken my place for me! And I want ’em to know how deeply I appreciate it!


  151. 156 Carolina Lady September 29, 2009 at 9:42 pm

    Braves: best record in the NL since Jun 28?? So saith Boog.


  152. 157 flbravesgirl September 29, 2009 at 11:11 pm

    Darn, darn, darn!


  153. 158 flbravesgirl September 29, 2009 at 11:13 pm

    And Colorado’s winning. Not good. Oh well, this was still fun.


  154. 159 Voice of Raisins September 30, 2009 at 8:23 am

    3 back, 4 to go. The road got much, MUCH tougher, but it is still open. Go Braves!


  155. 160 Voice of Raisins September 30, 2009 at 8:42 am

    In today’s news:

    Former major leaguer Chuck Knoblauch was charged yesterday with assulting his “common law” wife. Knoblauch, who played with the Twins, Yankees and Royals, had his 11 year career cut short when he developed a sudden psychological inability to make throws to first base from his second base position.

    Knoblauch was arrested after choking his wife and throwing a punch at her. The punch reportedly sailed wide and ended up in the first base side dugout; his wife was awarded second base.


  156. 161 berigan2electricboogaloo September 30, 2009 at 9:19 am

    What a putz!!! Hope he goes to jail, and doesn’t get just a slap on the wrist…
    Saw this in a story, do we get credited with winning the WS in 1991 then??? 😡

    Knoblauch was one of more than 80 players who were accused of using performance-enhancing drugs in the 2007 Mitchell Report on baseball’s steroids era.


  157. 162 Voice of Raisins September 30, 2009 at 3:45 pm

    3 back, 4 to go.

    Did I say that? It’s 5 to go, I believe…


  158. 163 Carolina Lady September 30, 2009 at 3:47 pm

    “The punch reportedly sailed wide and ended up in the first base side dugout; his wife was awarded second base.”

    Raisins, you are so funny!! 😆


  159. 164 Voice of Raisins September 30, 2009 at 3:58 pm

    Absolutely awesome article about Chipper and the Braves by SI’s Joe Posnanski:



  160. 165 Carolina Lady September 30, 2009 at 6:52 pm

    That WAS terrific, Raisins! Kinda makes you stop and say, Hmmmm. Tough to fill those shoes!


  161. 166 berigan2electricboogaloo September 30, 2009 at 9:03 pm

    down 5-0 in the 6th, runners on 1st and 2nd, and who comes up to the plate??? You’ll never guess, NEVER! Norton! 6 for 60, a .100 average as a pinch hitter. And he struck out against a guy that already struck out 12 clueless braves before him. Hey, just swing hard guys, no way is Nolasco, (of the 5.13 ERA entering the game) going to throw 2 strike pitches in the dirt…again. Now 14 K’s in just 6 innings!

    Oh well, it was nice to be hopeful, to feel the team was in a pennant race a for a week there.

    I really don’t mind Cox coming back for one more year, I do mind the lousy hitting coach coming back. Then becoming our next manager.


  162. 167 flbravesgirl October 1, 2009 at 12:20 am

    Great article, VOR. Chipper is very underappreciated. When he’s done & people actually look at the career numbers they’re going to be amazed.


  163. 168 Voice of Raisins October 1, 2009 at 8:00 am

    Absolutely heartbreaking loss… well, not even the loss itself as much as how the last out was made. Shoulda tied the game… 😐


  164. 170 berigan2electricboogaloo October 1, 2009 at 8:43 am

    V, heartbreaking indeed! 😦 After all the problems during the game, all the strikeouts, the Marlins were imploding, and had about given the game away.
    I am sure there was a lot of screaming across the street, probably at Diaz, but to me, it was Brian Snitker’s fault, as he was not jestering at all, what to do. Perhaps he said something, but the view from above was him down the line from Diaz, doing nothing!

    I feel terrible for Diaz, the ball just didn’t get that far away, but Boog and Joe were saying he would have scored if he just kept coming from the get go…..Sigh….


  165. 171 Voice of Raisins October 1, 2009 at 9:43 am

    It’s not the coach’s call, B. That is a play that is entirely in front of the runner. He has to react, one way or another. If he holds, we can all speculate as to whether he would have made it or not. If he scores, we can all laud him for his “heads up” baserunning. If he hesitates, he gets thrown out and we all hang our heads alongside him. He hesitated. My head is hanging, but so is his.

    Can’t lay that one on the coach.


  166. 172 Voice of Raisins October 1, 2009 at 9:45 am

    And I, too, think he would have scored. He was halfway down the line before Paulino found the ball. It sure looked like he would have made it…


  167. 173 berigan2electricboogaloo October 1, 2009 at 11:18 am

    V, I have to respectfully disagree…why was Snitker that far down the line??? There wasn’t a hit, so what was he doing there???

    It just happened. A bad break. Rockies have the feel of a team that just wasn’t going to be denied. And they won’t.


  168. 174 Carolina Lady October 1, 2009 at 11:56 am

    GREAT story, Raisins!

    Didja Know category: remember Otis Nixon? He now has a degree of doctorate of divinity. I’m glad for him! Doing a lot of work speaking in schools, etc. Has a youth program called On Track.


  169. 175 berigan2electricboogaloo October 1, 2009 at 12:29 pm

    Missed that story, very nice V!


  170. 176 berigan2electricboogaloo October 1, 2009 at 1:06 pm

    Hey, everyone want a laugh??? Truly amazing story here!

    Here is the audio, just classic!!!! 😀 😀 😀



  171. 177 Voice of Raisins October 1, 2009 at 2:13 pm

    Amazing! 😯


  172. 178 Voice of Raisins October 1, 2009 at 2:49 pm

    Did I mention that I am going on vacation tomorrow morning? We are going to the land of the mouse. Gonna be there for 8 days. I am soooooo ready.


  173. 179 Gil in Mechanicsville October 1, 2009 at 3:20 pm

    Hey, can’t really hang the goat horns on Diaz, like I said in my lead, there were lots of missed opportunities during the season. Disappointing? Yes, but what a great run the Braves had at the end. Really, should be a big boost for next year. Lots of young guys coming back.

    Of course, there is no guarantees but I like the Braves chances much more than the Pirates or the Nats or even the Fish. Should be a heck of a dog fight in the NL East in 2010.

    Now stuff…. Raisins, have a great time. Nothing like quality time with the kids to make you look back and smile when you get my age.


  174. 180 Carolina Lady October 1, 2009 at 7:09 pm

    God go with you, Raisins! You and your family have a grand time! You’ll be missed!


  175. 181 berigan2electricboogaloo October 1, 2009 at 8:41 pm

    Yeah, what CL said! 🙂

    Have fun! Don’t be an old man, and just let the kids go on those rides, get on them yourself! 😀 Man, sounds sweet!


  176. 182 Carolina Lady October 1, 2009 at 10:12 pm

    Ber, I have an idea that the kids will have a tough time keeping up with the big Raisin! 😆


  177. 183 flbravesgirl October 1, 2009 at 11:23 pm

    Really, VOR? I’m going this weekend. If you see a freckled girl with a long brown ponytail wearing purple, say Hi.


  178. 184 Gil in Mechanicsville October 2, 2009 at 6:26 am

    Well. the Braves were officially eliminated yesterday and they played like it last night being taken down by the mighty Nats. The were undone by that dynamic duo of Willie Harris and Pete Orr… Oh the humanity… Tommy Hanson pitched a gem only to have it wasted.

    Now stuff….. Sigh…..


  179. 185 berigan2electricboogaloo October 2, 2009 at 11:26 am

    Gee Gil, I was biting my tongue a bit, but what you said…is what I felt…I felt bad for Tommy…But then we all know how great the Nat’s Bullpen is! 🙄 I think Tim Kurkjian said they had the worst bullpen he had seen in covering baseball in 30 years! Sighs, sighs, sighs, everywhere sighs..


  180. 186 Carolina Lady October 2, 2009 at 9:44 pm

    Man! We sure miss Raisins around here, don’t we??!


  181. 187 Gil in Mechanicsville October 2, 2009 at 10:05 pm

    Yep, been pretty quiet. I have been watching the mighty Nats humble the Braves tonight. Pitiful, tough playing out the string when you have a broken heart.

    Of course the Nats are accustom to it, they haven’t played a meaningful game since Frank Robinson was the manager.


  182. 188 Gil in Mechanicsville October 2, 2009 at 10:11 pm

    Okay, I’m sleepy, catch up with ya’ll tomorrow…


  183. 189 flbravesgirl October 2, 2009 at 11:23 pm

    Well, if things weren’t enough of a letdown, Boog is leaving to take a full-time job with ESPN. I will really miss him. He & Joe play off each other so well. Please, o Powers That Be, DO NOT put Chip in the booth. I’d really hate to have to mute the broadcasts.


  184. 190 flbravesgirl October 2, 2009 at 11:26 pm

    OK, kids, I’m headed to Disney at 6 am. I’ll be on the lookout for VOR (don’t know if I’d recognize him without his little guitar-playing hat though). See y’all Sun. night.


  185. 191 Gil in Mechanicsville October 3, 2009 at 5:13 am

    Have fun Jen…

    Yes, it was a bummer to learn that Boog was leaving, totally unexpected. Unfortunately I won’t be able to hear his last broadcast because MASN has territorial rights to all National games and blacks out all the other feeds.

    I thought Jon was really knowledgeable about the game. The good side is maybe we wont have to listen to the other Jon when ESPN does it’s games. Well, we can hope can’t we?

    While I like Chip sometimes, he can wear on you after a while.

    Hard to find good play by play guys. Color men are a dime a dozen….


  186. 192 Gil in Mechanicsville October 3, 2009 at 5:17 am

    Did you know that the MASN guys have named the AFLAC duck? Do any of you care? Anyhoo… they call him Medwick… fits I think, can’t get the name out of my head now whenever I see him in the ads….


  187. 193 Savannah Guy October 3, 2009 at 8:55 am

    Howdy y’all. Been away on business and as busy as a one-armed paper hanger. Is that pc?

    Well folks, I finally made it to a game. Great seats right behind the plate. Unfortunately, it was THE game. That’s right… the one where we still had hope for a playoff. Yep, the game that we almost came back to tie when Diaz got caught running, not running, running, high-tailing it back and… out.

    What a feeling in the stadium that night. Somehow I knew that the Braves would break our hearts in some new, unexpected way on their final valiant run. They succeeded that night. In a stadium where there are no instant escapes with a remote control, the agony and the ecstasy of wins and losses are amplified. This loss was magnified in its fall from hope to despair.

    That last, crazy out at third threw the whole place into a heartbroken state of confusion. It’s one thing to pop out or ground out or strike out to end a game. It happens all the time and that’s just baseball. But to end like that added insult to injury. All of the energy and air left from the TED that very moment, like the spirit leaving the body after a sudden, unexpected, tragic death. Nobody died, but it seemed like a death. The spirit will not return this year for fans or the Braves. That is apparent these last few games. This season ends mercifully now, not a day too early.

    For the final game, I really hope Diaz starts. He needs to wash away the bitter taste. I hope he hits two home runs and drives in six, or something spectacular. Matty is not to blame for anything. The infamous play was a fluke. It’s the kind of hustle, baserunning and hitting that lifted the Braves all season and hopefully he’ll do the same next year in right field.

    The Braves had a tough year and, due to many factors, they just couldn’t put it together despite great pitching. If we lose any of our starters, I’ll hope it’s Lowe. Watching his mechanics from the mound this year was almost as bad as watching Andruw’s mechanics at the plate. Totally off with no sense of how to regain composure. I don’t know what Lowe’s trade clause or contract looks like or if it’s possible, but with Lowe’s salary off the books, a big bat would be attainable. Or a straight up trade.

    One thing we are left with this year that will last long after the “out at third” and final series of inconsequential games… is hope. The way the Braves showed they can play bodes well for the future. Lots of promise with newcomers. Yunel and Prado are solid. Matty and Church would make a fine platoon. Our rotation is one of the best in the business. If Chipper and Mac get healthy (and in shape) in the off season (and Mac gets some tutoring about the fundamentals of catching), they’ll be back with a vengeance.

    Yep, there is much hope for the 2010 Braves. The economy may be on a downward spiral, hyperinflation may set in and the country may be going to hell in a handbasket, but we should at least have the pleasurable distraction of a winning baseball team. That’s something.

    When hard work is not enough and baseball isn’t there to transport us to a field of dreams… faith, hope and charity will get us through.

    All the best y’all. Go Braves! Long live Stuffville!


  188. 194 berigan2electricboogaloo October 3, 2009 at 3:18 pm

    Very well put SG! I can imagine how hard that game was to see in person….

    I don’t know what we can do with Lowe…
    I felt we HAD to sign him, since everyone else turned us down last off season. Looking at Lowe’s stats, he had back to back lousy years in 2003 and ’04( 4.45 ERA, then 5.42 ERA in ’04, then went 3-0 in the playoffs!)
    But at 37 going on 38 next year…who is going to pay him 15 Mil for each of the next 2 years???
    Braves seem to think they are too special to ever eat part of a contract. At least the homeboy was that way…but, eat say, 7-8 Mil a year, and perhaps the Brewers would take him….


  189. 195 Gil in Mechanicsville October 3, 2009 at 7:26 pm

    Sometimes you have to look at how much you are paying your team from a different perspective. If you do eat part of a contract to reduce over-all payroll, you have to say to yourself, well, how much are guys like Jurgins and Hanson worth? Let’s pretend we are paying them 3 mill each. Then your over all payroll does not look so bad, especially when you pick up a good everyday player in return.

    Far to often the desire to get even rears it’s ugly head and bites you in the behind… No pun intended… well, maybe so… 🙂


  190. 196 berigan2electricboogaloo October 4, 2009 at 11:17 am

    Good Sunday mornin’ stuffvillians! Slept about 9 hours last night! That will do nothin’ but screw me up sleeping tonight! 😛

    Well, went to one of the final car shows of the year yesterday…sigh…so many things end this time of year that I enjoy. Baseball, car shows, women in shorts! 😳
    Days get shorters. Well, I think they still stay 24 hours long, but it gets dark earlier, and earlier. Leaves die, and fall off the trees, making it look like the trees are dead as well . It gets cold, my feet get cold inside the house.
    But, there is some good news, all the things mentioned above gives me a chance to whine, which I must clearly love doing! 😉 Then there are the Holidays(though it looks like once again, for more Christmases than I care to recall, no need to get any mistletoe) with cold weather, there is always a chance for snow(Which is really a good thing CL, honest!:D ) And of course one thing that will keep us warm on the coldest of nights, the Hot Stove! :mrgreen: Thank goodness for that!


  191. 197 berigan2electricboogaloo October 4, 2009 at 11:20 am

    Days get shorters Shorters???? Nope, don’t think so, clearly a wordpress glitch. I am not that bad a typer! 😕


  192. 198 Carolina Lady October 4, 2009 at 11:27 am

    Ber, you were still focusing on ‘women in shorts.’ 😆


  193. 199 Savannah Guy October 4, 2009 at 11:29 am

    I don’t know what we can do with Lowe…

    I’m hoping this year was just an aberration for Lowe, though none of us have any idea about that. Could be he’s washed up due to age. Or maybe a physical issue, who knows. He did seem to have a balance problem on the mound. Hoping he’ll sort it all out during the offseason and come back strong, confident and in good form next year. He’s a good teammate so I hope he works it out.

    If we can keep the rest of our starters (I hope we do), maybe Lowe could be considered a closer. I know that sounds totally off the wall, but I’ve watched him come into big games and excel as a starter and a reliever. Once I watched him come into the game in the ninth inning of a playoff game for Boston with the bases loaded, and he completely dominated to slam the door with three strikeouts. Maybe he thrives on high pressure situations.

    Whether as starter or reliever next year, he’s going to have to strengthen, regain confidence and work out his mechanics.


  194. 200 berigan2electricboogaloo October 4, 2009 at 5:23 pm

    CL, I never focus on women in shorts! 😳

    SG, Lowe had back to back less than stellar years in 03, 04, then came back strong…hope that happens again. Well, not the back to back thing…

    Anyone watching??? 14th inning 1-1!!!


  195. 201 berigan2electricboogaloo October 4, 2009 at 5:30 pm

    15th inning. 1 run. Against the team with the worst bullpen.
    Lets keep TP around another year, til he can become our manager!!!! 😛


  196. 202 berigan2electricboogaloo October 4, 2009 at 5:31 pm

    A good day to dominate here! 😀
    Ol’ DOB had an interesting comment about Moylan(hey, it’s the 15th, gotta do something)

    Lefties had a .312 average and .440 OBP against Moylan before today. How can you have a closer who doesn’t get lefties out? He’s devastating vs. righties, but has to develop a change-up or something to get lefties out. Can’t close with those numbers



  197. 203 berigan2electricboogaloo October 4, 2009 at 5:34 pm

    And I forgot to mention it, but I’m gonna miss Boog! 😦
    He’s going to be sorry going to ESPN. No room for him. They had better be paying him twice as much….


  198. 204 Carolina Lady October 4, 2009 at 5:52 pm

    “CL, I never focus on women in shorts!”
    You don’t??? 😯


  199. 205 berigan2electricboogaloo October 4, 2009 at 6:01 pm

    Well… perhaps a little…. 😉

    What a way to end the season. Brooks Conrad, with runners on 2nd and 3rd, 2 outs, strikes out…well, not really a check swing, really lousy call by the 3rd base ump…sigh…

    I like …….


  200. 206 Gil in Mechanicsville October 4, 2009 at 7:46 pm

    The way I figure it, the ump was tired… Who is going to argue when it is a meaningless game as far as the standing go. I watched most of the game today, except for the top of the 15th inning because I needed to put the cover back on my boat before it got dark.

    Braves had lots of chances to win the game, just did not seem to want it all that badly.

    I was stuck with the Washington feed so I did not get to hear Boog’s last game…

    I agree on the Derick Lowe thing. I figure he was playing with a strain of some sort. Huddy looked good today. Some of that dipsy-doodle movement back on his fastball. The Braves have a great pitching staff right now, just need some offense to go with it.

    Today is my youngest son’s birthday and I got a chance to talk with him. He and his bride are expecting another child in the spring. That will make grandchild number 20 for Josie and I. Two more and we will be able to field a pretty good football team.


  201. 207 flbravesgirl October 4, 2009 at 10:11 pm

    Wow. Congrats, Gil!

    Ber, it was a very lousy call. Very unprofessional of the ump to end the season that way just because he was tired of standing there.


  202. 208 flbravesgirl October 4, 2009 at 10:14 pm

    SG, it was just about that bad watching that game at home too. I was hoping Matty would get a chance to do something redemptive also but apparently he had a hand injury that needed a bit of work.


  203. 209 Salty October 5, 2009 at 10:53 am

    Boog has been doing games for ESPN the past year or so…mostly college basketball that I’ve seen/heard him on…just not full-time. I suspect he’s been ‘auditioning’…they do that with some of the dudes and dudettes they use. 😆 I guess he passed…no surprise there.

    Who will join Joe on the tube? I think Joe can do play by play, no problem, and Ron Gant could do the color. I like Ron’s ‘every man’ style and approach…he needs some broadcast maturation, but it will come. Plus, he and Joe can trade locker room stories…I’m sure they have plenty still that haven’t been heard. And…I’d recommend Pete and Ernie make a cameo from time to time…for nostalgia’s sake. Heck, maybe Pete would like to come back for home games only. Lastly, what about Ernie, Jr?


  204. 210 Salty October 5, 2009 at 11:57 am

    Never start that which you do not intend to win!


    Critics also pointed out that before their Copenhagen encounter Mr Obama had only met Gen McChrystal once since his appointment in June.

    Gen McChrystal, who heads the 68,000 US troops in Afghanistan as well as the 100,000 Nato forces, flatly rejected proposals to switch to a strategy more reliant on drone missile strikes and special forces operations against al-Qaeda.

    He told the Institute of International and Strategic Studies that the formula, which is favoured by Vice-President Joe Biden, would lead to “Chaos-istan”.

    When asked whether he would support it, he said: “The short answer is: No.”

    He went on to say: “Waiting does not prolong a favorable outcome. This effort will not remain winnable indefinitely, and nor will public support.”

    So…does the general do his job…or cow-tow to the ‘warm and fuzzy’ crowd?


  205. 211 Carolina Lady October 5, 2009 at 1:23 pm

    The general will do his job. Betcha.

    Broadcasters: Somehow I don’t think Pete will come back. I got the feeling that Skip’s death hit him too hard for him to return.
    Having said that, Pete and Joe made a great pair, I thought. I like both of them.

    The #1 pair was Skip and Joe. They were on the same wave-length and were the best!

    Whoever it turns out to be, I hope it is someone with whom Joe can relate and they can establish a good rapport.


  206. 212 Carolina Lady October 5, 2009 at 1:32 pm

    One other thing I noticed in the article:
    “According to sources close to the administration, Gen McChrystal shocked and angered presidential advisers with the bluntness of a speech given in London last week.”

    You can read that as “Rahm Emanuel”. The Narcissist-in-Chief wouldn’t know what to think unless told.

    I was curious so I Googled Narcissist and found this:

    “Narcissism is categorized as a personality disorder by the mental health profession. It is referred to as NPD or Narcissistic Personality Disorder. Few are ever diagnosed because few go to therapy. Narcissism is not high self-esteem, but a condition where the typical narcissist suffers from

    *Preoccupation with hiding real or perceived flaws
    *Overestimation of importance, achievements, talents and skills
    *Maladaptive attention seeking behavior
    *Inability to empathize with others
    *Excessive anger and shame in response to criticism often
    resulting in rage

    The narcissist will often manipulate others, especially partners, to control them. Projection and blame are hallmarks of this manipulation. It is estimated that 85% of narcissists are males.”

    Hm. One of the reasons that he blames everything wrong in the world on GWB? Anyhow, I found it interesting.


  207. 213 berigan2electricboogaloo October 5, 2009 at 4:15 pm

    Wow Gil, 20???? Do you make them wear nametags when they visit??? 😆 Congrats!!!

    Salty, you are right about Gant! Brian Jordan seems like a nice guy, but no way could he do color.
    And now that I think of it, I think Boog did some baseball games for ESPN last year, or this year….I just think it’s easy to get lost there. Just hearing that last game, he and Joe were soooo good together. But, who knows the difference in salary?? I really have no idea what he may have been getting for braves games.

    Gil, in case you were wondering, there was no big deal made at the end of the game(Heck, I was listening to music, and only caught the last 5 innings of the game-sure glad I did) they could have had a clip thing at the beginning, but I somehow can’t imagine that. They all said their goodbyes to him, but that was it. I was sure hoping for some best of stuff of the last 3 years.


  208. 214 Gil in Mechanicsville October 5, 2009 at 4:40 pm

    Ber , the name tag thing is not such a bad idea….

    Gee, who would have thought the Democrats would want to lose a war???? My money is on McChrystal resigning and Pertraus going too. I am sure they can get a guy who will do the President’s bidding… Not the first time a guy with no military background think he was a better general than those who spent years of study and training to become one.


  209. 215 Carolina Lady October 5, 2009 at 5:20 pm

    Shades of LBJ and VietNam.

    Congrats, Gran’pappy!!! 😀


  210. 216 Salty October 5, 2009 at 6:53 pm

    I money is on McCrystal resigning and Pertraus going too.

    I hope not…perhaps even disagree…and certainly not the preference. If anything, he and Petraeus will be ‘fired’, and that’s fine, so long as it draws attention to the incompetency.

    I’m fine with a chasm within the country, too, because all too often and all too frequently these past couple of decades, too few have been doing the bidding for too many. It’s time to establish if there really is a majority and, more importantly, is that majority prepared for its’ collective voice to resonate? If not…if the composition of the majority is more akin to jelly fish…if the thought process is self-centered and reflects solely on the individual, then it’s time for failure and the accompanying real pain. Sometimes, that’s what it takes…pain…and a long, slow recovery. We reap…we sow.

    Hey, Gil…congrats to you and Josey…20 times over. You, two, are a shining example of American spirit and family. I tip my hat (if I wore won! 😆 )


  211. 217 Salty October 5, 2009 at 6:54 pm

    By the way, Gil…I know you meant ‘my’, not ‘I’, but didn’t see it until just now. Perhaps the ‘Editor in Chief’ will intervene!


  212. 218 Salty October 5, 2009 at 7:02 pm

    And since I’m dominating for the first time in a very long time…let’s hope the Marlins are really, REALLY STUPID and fire Fredi Gonzales…cause then, the Braves have their post-Bobby manager! I’m crossing my fingers…he’s the man. Yepper (to borrow an SG-ism!)!


  213. 219 Gil in Mechanicsville October 5, 2009 at 8:20 pm

    Salty, I think they will resign rather than allow themselves to be held responsible for failure.

    I am pretty sure Freddie signed a long term contract with the Marlins but maybe it’s just through next year. I agree however that he would be a great fit. I don’t think the Braves can approach him if he is under contract or they would be guilty of tampering.


  214. 220 Salty October 5, 2009 at 8:32 pm

    Gil…they’re talking about canning him for Bobby Valentine…that’s why I brought it up. If the Marlins want Bobby V, let ’em have him. Fredi’s good, in my view.

    How would they be held up for failure…I don’t understand? Generals define the need; gov’t appropriates. Heck, President Obama (I will be respectful…more than I’d get in return, I guarantee!) appointed McCrystal just a few months ago…the man’s doing his job. Politicians can play ‘PR’…the military doesn’t have that luxury. The minute that becomes their M.O….the jig is up…campaign is lost…and much credibility. The Administration must come to grips there are foes who despise us…and they really are the enemy, not some figment of the imagination. Further, not every military leader is Dr. Strangeglove.


  215. 221 berigan2electricboogaloo October 5, 2009 at 9:29 pm

    It’s time to establish if there really is a majority and, more importantly, is that majority prepared for its’ collective voice to resonate? If not…if the composition of the majority is more akin to jelly fish…if the thought process is self-centered and reflects solely on the individual, then it’s time for failure and the accompanying real pain. Sometimes, that’s what it takes…pain…and a long, slow recovery

    Salty for Prez in 2012! 🙂


  216. 222 Salty October 5, 2009 at 10:45 pm

    Oh, dear…. 😳


  217. 223 Carolina Lady October 5, 2009 at 10:46 pm

    I second the nomination!


  218. 224 berigan2electricboogaloo October 6, 2009 at 2:32 am

    a one game playoff Tuesday, between the Tigers and Twins. Still a bit bitter about the twins, all these years later, plus the Tigers are not cheap the Twins are. So naturally, the Twins will win. 😕

    Still, go TIGERS!!!!


  219. 225 Gil in Mechanicsville October 6, 2009 at 4:16 am

    Salty, I had not heard that about them wanting Valetine. Yep, I would hire Freddie in a heart beat if I were Frank Wren. No further search would be needed as far as I am concerned.

    Yep, the Tigers tanked it…. Still, I am a fan of Leland, and Verlander and Inge…. I still say the Braves got hosed by the umps in ’91 but who am I to hold a grudge?


  220. 226 Gil in Mechanicsville October 6, 2009 at 8:31 pm

    Okay, did everyone leave and not tell me they were going?


  221. 227 Gil in Mechanicsville October 6, 2009 at 8:36 pm

    And from the: Did you ever hear of five worse choices for a baseball team department…

    These are the five finalist for team name for the new Richmond AA baseball team…

    The Flatheads

    The Rock Hoppers

    The Hambones

    The Flying Squirrels

    The Rhinos

    My suggestion was for the Rivah Ratz but evidently it was not lame enough..


  222. 228 Carolina Lady October 6, 2009 at 9:15 pm

    They are serious about those names??? Let’s hope they settle for the last one!


  223. 229 Carolina Lady October 6, 2009 at 9:17 pm

    I am one happy camper tonight! I only have to finish proofing and create an index, and the 20-month long genealogy project is ready for the printer!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Oh, yeah!!!!!!!


  224. 230 berigan2electricboogaloo October 6, 2009 at 10:04 pm

    CL, Congrats!!! 🙂 🙂 🙂 Pat yourself on the back! 😀 😀 😀


  225. 232 Gil in Mechanicsville October 6, 2009 at 11:19 pm

    Well, looks like a possible reprieve for the naming of the team. After overwhelmingly being laughed out of town, they will now consider another name.


  226. 233 berigan2electricboogaloo October 7, 2009 at 12:05 am

    Gil, Flatheads kinda sounds like a great name if Fords are big in your neck of the woods! 😉


  227. 234 Gil in Mechanicsville October 7, 2009 at 3:43 am

    you don’t think the Hambones would be kosher?

    if we were in West Virginia we could call them the Stump Jumpers…

    I thought the Flying Squirrels was just nutty…


  228. 235 Gil in Mechanicsville October 7, 2009 at 3:47 am

    They said they wanted a name which could be ascribed as being representative of the Richmond area… However, my suggestion of The Dysfuntionals was rejected… Hey, I thought it was perfect.

    One fellow suggested the Raptures because he thought Christ would return before a new stadium was ever built…


  229. 236 Gil in Mechanicsville October 7, 2009 at 9:10 am

    And you folks can help. Send a suggestion to the following e-mail address today before 9PM as they will come up with a wild-card choice of names for our new team.



  230. 237 Gil in Mechanicsville October 7, 2009 at 3:41 pm

    but not if you all stay gone all day….


  231. 239 Carolina Lady October 8, 2009 at 11:21 am

    All right! WHAT is going on here?! Or – NOT going on in this case??

    Raisins goes on vacation and everybody else disappears??

    Cool front went through here last night. This morning the sky is the most perfect deep blue you can imagine. Just incredible!


  232. 240 berigan2electricboogaloo October 8, 2009 at 11:29 am

    CL, braves season is over! What else is there to talk about??? 😛


  233. 241 berigan2electricboogaloo October 8, 2009 at 11:50 am

    Sorry I haven’t been around as much last few days…I was reading posts at least. Between this amazingly low paying work I am doing(that pays less if I don’t reach my quota) then our friend with the ALS came by(Did I mention he had a stroke a month ago??? ) Tuesday, and I went to my Doctor yesterday…seems you have to come in every 6 months now to get certain refills. Well, once I told him all my stomach issues, he wants to try me on a different medicine to see if that alleviates the problem. One tiny problem. The old medicine is $4.00 a month, the new one, $200!!!! 😯
    He gave me a one month sample supply.
    Lets see, I pay $109 a month for health insurance. Soon to go up to either $122 or $139(great timing to do that with all the health care debate, right?) depending if I stretch the truth on a questionnaire. And that’s with a $5000 deductable. Trying to figure out what my medicine deductible is, may be $500. If thats the case, I have to pay that out of pocket, then the insurance company would have to pay what, $1900 for the medicine the rest of the year??? Somehow I don’t think they will approve that.
    Who do I get mad at??? To me, the pharmaceutical companies. I always hear how much it costs to make a new drug…and how they can spend millions on a new drug that is turned down after years of work…my Doctor also mentioned that. But, as he also says they used to just create new meds at universities, now there is so much money to be made on new drugs, they now spend millions and millions on advertising, giving out samples, giving doctors pens, lunches, etc….

    It’s like so many things in this life. If people would do the right thing, there wouldn’t be the need for unions, police, lawyers, etc, etc, etc…but sadly a fair number don’t.

    I would sure think Insurance companies and big pharm have to know would will happen to them, and soon if government gets their grimy hands on them like never before…..


  234. 242 Carolina Lady October 8, 2009 at 12:34 pm

    Ber, I fully sympathize! I’m venturing through a similar situation. The cost of the insurance goes up and I’m paying a whole lot more OOP before it even kicks in. But even this is better than what our benevolent Beloved Leader proposes.

    Wanta talk about insurance? Try coastal home owners rates! Increasing at the rate of roughly 25% per YEAR! The insurance companies more or less tell the state insurance commissioner to either approve the rates or they’ll pull out altogether – which many have done anyway.

    The majority of the hurricane insurance claims are, naturally, on the beaches. So, instead of putting the burden where it belongs, they put it on everyone within a hundred miles of the ocean. The poor millionaires who build those extravagant seaside “summer” castles can’t bear the loss so the rest of us have to help them out. Redistribution of wealth – makes sure that I don’t have any so they can keep theirs! Poor babies might have to give up a private jet or two.

    What to talk about?? Next year! We better get something going soon so Wren can read it and know what to do!


  235. 243 Carolina Lady October 8, 2009 at 4:27 pm





    It’s kinda scary in here all by myself….


  236. 244 Gil in Mechanicsville October 8, 2009 at 4:39 pm

    I know what to do… none of it is legal however….

    CNBC gave us another choice for the new team name in Richmond… The Hush Puppies.. They said they like it because it sounded “Southern” .. Well, They can take a kike as far as I am concerned. So, we have a choice of six lame names to choose from. I am thinking maybe it would be best if they were know as A Team To Be Named Later…

    Yep, know all about the medication game. I finally told my doctor to give me something cheap, that way I would not be out of a whole lot when it didn’t work. The really good stuff you need to get from the undocumented pharmacist on the corner…

    Very frustrating if you ask me…. Who can afford to get sick anymore?

    Now baseball… Still need a big bopper in the lineup. Heywood ready yet? I say sign Adam to a 3 year deal and be done with it. According to the Mayans, it won’t matter after 2012 anyway…


  237. 245 Gil in Mechanicsville October 8, 2009 at 4:43 pm

    Oh by the way… Found a restored version of my first car for sale. Will be at auction on Friday. It is a 1955 Ford Sunliner convertible. Would love to have it but I didn’t call my first one HunkAhJunk without good reason…. Still, great memories of the car to go along with the bad. Best not to go to the auction so I won’t be tempted to do something foolish…


  238. 246 Carolina Lady October 8, 2009 at 6:54 pm

    The Hush Puppies?? They’re serious??


  239. 247 berigan2electricboogaloo October 8, 2009 at 8:47 pm

    CL, has anyone given you a good reason why insurance companies can’t come in from other states??? You would think those on both sides would be for that….


  240. 249 Carolina Lady October 8, 2009 at 10:15 pm

    That’s just another word for ‘corruption.’


  241. 250 Gil in Mechanicsville October 8, 2009 at 11:15 pm

    Sadly CL, no…. Okay what teams do you folks want to win the playoffs?


  242. 251 berigan2electricboogaloo October 9, 2009 at 1:42 am

    Gil, I seem to be a fair weather fan. I would rather see the Cards than the Dodgers…yet again go deep. Doesn’t look like that will be happening. Just terrible luck for Matt Holliday. That ball was just strange…knuckled or did something to make it waist high, and have the glove turned the wrong way. Well…just heard that he lost it in the lights….hit him in a …sensitive area.
    And LaRussa had a Bobby Cox moment. Ryan Franklin clearly didn’t have it, yet he left him out there. They needed someone to strike a guy out…say John Smoltz. Oh well…

    Honestly, I think the Phils will win the NL. Which is fine with me. They are the best team in the NL, IMHO. And it would be swell to see them beat the Yankees in the W.S.

    Glad to see the Angels beat the Red Sox. Would be just fine with me to see the Red Sox wiped out in the 1st round. Their fans are insufferable. Their team sucks, it can never be the other team was better that day.

    So, now that I have really screwed the order of this….
    Yankees-Angels, Yanks win in 5. Phils-Dodgers. Phils win in 6.
    Phils beat the Yankees in a great 7 game series!!!!


  243. 252 Gil in Mechanicsville October 9, 2009 at 9:19 am

    Just asking because whichever teams I am rooting for seem to lose… Yep, Holliday looked like, well… just really bad. Cards had that game won.

    Cards don’t have a pen, plain and simple. Look for them to try to sign one of the Braves’ leftovers in the off season.

    I thought about the same thing with Smoltz…


  244. 253 berigan2electricboogaloo October 9, 2009 at 9:56 am

    Finally! Barack Obama, after 9 long months, has been given the Nobel Peace Prize!


    REM would disagree, but I find this song so very apropos.


  245. 254 Gil in Mechanicsville October 9, 2009 at 11:11 am

    Yes, we have now digressed to the point where the Nobel Prize is a participation trophy. No actual results is required…


  246. 255 Gil in Mechanicsville October 9, 2009 at 11:16 am

    Base on this, It has been announced the the Atlanta Braves will be awarded World Series Championships for the Years 2010 and 2011 because they tried really hard and should have won it in 1991,92 and 96.

    The Braves and Stuff blog spot will also receive the Pulitzer Prize for excellence in blog reporting because we really think it would look neat on our logo….


  247. 256 Carolina Lady October 9, 2009 at 4:09 pm

    “because we really think it would look neat on our logo….”

    😆 😆 😆


  248. 257 Carolina Lady October 9, 2009 at 4:45 pm

    Speaking of homeowner’s insurance, I got a notice from State Farm today:
    Premium increase of 10% over last year.
    Deductible: increase to $1500
    Deductible for hurricane related claims: 2% of total coverage (which reaches into many thousands)

    Their letter, in part:
    “Thank you for allowing us (State Farm) the opportunity to provide your Homeowner’s Insurance protection. ….Due to the increased exposure presented by your home being located in a hurricane prone area, the renewal offer for the coming year will result in a premium charge that is above the standard rate charged by the NC Rate Bureau. Though we regret that we have to take this action, it is important that we receive an adequate premium for the coastal exposures we insure. Since the premium charge requires your consent and authorization, the attached form must be signed and dated by you and returned to us in the enclosed envelope by Nov 4, 2009. Unfortunately, if the consent form is not received by the indicated date, we will have not choice but to non-renew your policy.”

    Non-renew? Government-speak?

    Note that I am NOT on water-front property. I’m a good 2 miles or more inland. I haven’t filed a claim since 1996 – when Hurricanes Bertha and Fran hit within a couple of weeks of each other – and most of the legitimate claim was denied.

    Don’t know if there’s a lot of option for me, but I WILL be checking out whatever is available! 😡


  249. 258 Gil in Mechanicsville October 9, 2009 at 7:45 pm

    True story… Many years ago (has my dad really been gone that long) my dad made a claim against his homeowners policy for 2 separate incident. The first involved a stone wall that separated his patio (wind blew it over) and his roof after a severe storm blew off some shingles. While they made good the claims, they sent him a notice that they were canceling his policy. Now dad had paid his premiums for many years with out making a claim but this seem to be of little consequence to the insurance company. After becoming upset at this turn of events, he realized he had little choice but to secure another carrier.

    Much to his surprize and delight, he found another company that not only increased his coverage but also was cheaper by $100. Not content with just enjoying his sudden good fortune, he felt it was necessary to share this news with his prior carrier. He wrote a very nice letter thanking them for canceling him because if they had not, he would continued to overpay for his home owner’s insurance all the while not knowing he could get a better rate and superior coverage.

    They wrote him a letter in return saying they had made a mistake and would love to continue to underwrite his policy. He in turn replied that their services were no long needed…


  250. 259 Carolina Lady October 9, 2009 at 9:10 pm

    That’s very true, Gil! MANY people who had never made a claim but who sustained damage in the 1-2 punch of Bertha and Fran, had their policies immediately cancelled.

    The place was torn up by Bertha, a high cat 1 -almost 2. Hadn’t had one in quite a while so damage wasn’t necessarily terrible but was widespread. Flying over the county, you saw what seemed like millions of blue tarps covering holes in roofs, etc.

    Builders supply places couldn’t even begin to stock enough materials for all the repairs and repair people had simply stopped answering their phones because they were so totally swamped.

    On the heels of this, Miss Fran decided to pay us a visit with her high cat 2, almost 3, winds and tons more rain. Now we really had a mess on our hands! Entire huge power grids had to be completely rebuilt, too badly damaged to repair. (My area, for example, was without power for nearly two weeks. And I still thank God for Florida Power & Light who worked around the clock in my area!)

    But! The mainland damage was for REPAIRS! Much of the beachfront property was just wiped out. Erased from the face of the earth. THAT’S where the billions of dollars in damage was done: Figure Eight Island (a private island, BTW), Topsail Island, Carolina Beach, Kure Beach, Ft Fisher all had horrific damage. Waterfront. Entire huge condominiums vanished. And that’s where the insurance companies lost their money.

    So who gets punished for it? Everybody else.

    Ask me how happy I am!!! (or not…)


  251. 260 berigan2electricboogaloo October 9, 2009 at 10:16 pm

    Wow, anyone watching the Yankees Twins game??? Extra ump down the line missed a clearly fair ball that would have given Mauer a double…and he called it foul! He was 20 feet away! Mauer later got a single, but a terrible call….


  252. 261 berigan2electricboogaloo October 9, 2009 at 10:20 pm

    And CL, that really sucks! 😦 Like Gil said with his Dad though, it worked for the best. Who knows, you may end up saving money! Insurance companies always seem to offer a good deal to start with. I forget what my health insurance started out at a few years ago, but I have increased my deductable from either $500, to $1000, to $5000 and every year they want to increase my premiums 10-15%. GRRRR!!!


  253. 262 berigan2electricboogaloo October 9, 2009 at 10:51 pm

    And ol’ Tex, who was forever pitched to, instead of Chipper, hits a game winning homer…sigh….


  254. 263 berigan2electricboogaloo October 10, 2009 at 11:53 am

    Hello??? tap, tap… Is this thing on??? 😉


  255. 265 Gil in Mechanicsville October 10, 2009 at 8:48 pm

    Well, I reckon Hillbilly is pretty happy…


  256. 266 berigan2electricboogaloo October 10, 2009 at 10:31 pm

    Why, is he a Dodgers fan??? 😉


  257. 267 flbravesgirl October 11, 2009 at 12:33 am

    Are we back on? I kept trying to post last night & WordPress just ate them repeatedly & the blog disappeared for quite some time.


  258. 268 flbravesgirl October 11, 2009 at 12:37 am

    (Part of what I tried to say last night) I’m sure FPL appreciates your kind words, CL. It’s been reciprocated here. When we had the 4 hurricanes rip through the middle of the state in 04 there were power crews from as far away as Michigan here.


  259. 269 Gil in Mechanicsville October 11, 2009 at 3:47 am

    Arkansas beat Auburn Ber


  260. 270 berigan2electricboogaloo October 11, 2009 at 5:00 am

    FBG, was wondering where you were! Thought perhaps you had gone north again….

    Gil…Oh….What sport??? Cricket??? Water Polo??? Lacrosse???

    In case anyone missed it, the poor Cards were swept in 3 games. On paper they looked so much better than the Dodgers…

    Smoltz struck out 5 batters in 2 innings…


  261. 271 Carolina Lady October 11, 2009 at 11:15 am

    I’m glad Smoltzie got to the post-season one more time.


  262. 272 Carolina Lady October 11, 2009 at 12:04 pm

    FBG, it’s gratifying when people come from so far to help. After one of the storms, an insurance co. adjuster came out to inspect the damage and she had been sent from an office in Colorado. Whoa!

    And it’s amazing to me that these people come, or are sent by their companies, and there are usually no hotel rooms available for them. They have to ‘camp out’ for the duration. Tough duty!


  263. 273 Voice of Raisins October 11, 2009 at 2:00 pm

    Ah…….. home.

    Feels good… 😀


  264. 274 Voice of Raisins October 11, 2009 at 2:11 pm

    Man! Wish I had known FBG was going to be around the parks. I would’ve tried to hook up. We spent ALOT of time in the parks. I walked more in the Central Florida record heat than you can imagine. It sure didn’t feel like October. It was mid-90’s every day. Heat index was 105 on Friday. I can attest.

    Hollywood Studios is the bomb! Easily my favorite of the 4 parks.

    Props to my 6-year-old daughter who rode every thrill ride in every park – from the Tower of Terror to Expedition Everest to The Rock ‘n’ Roller Coaster to Mission: Space to Test Track, she loved of all of it. (Too bad Space Mountain was closed. She would have loved it as well.) And still she found time to get her autograph book completely filled. What a week!

    My 13-year-old son met 2 young ladies from PA. They hung out alot. ALOT. All 3 hated saying goodbye yesterday.

    Pulled into Jefferson at 1:30am this morning. Very tired. Be back later…


  265. 275 Carolina Lady October 11, 2009 at 2:36 pm

    WELCOME BACK, RAISINS!!! You’ve been missed, my friend! Congrats to your Raisinette! Kept ya busy, huh? So glad y’all had a super trip!!

    Not a whole heck of a lot going on in Stuffville since the Braves’ season washed out.

    Hope you and Mama Raisin had a great time, too!


  266. 276 berigan2electricboogaloo October 11, 2009 at 4:05 pm

    Hey V, good to have you back! 😀 Sounds like a great time was had by all! Your 13 year old, a playa already??? 😉 What advantages he has over us old folks. He can email, facebook, tweet them….gee, that sounds..well, we all know it’s on the up and up. 😳


  267. 277 flbravesgirl October 11, 2009 at 8:22 pm

    Hi, VOR! We only spent 1 day in the parks because Melissa wasn’t feeling well. We did Animal Kingdom in the morning, took a break at the hotel & went to Magic Kingdom for the evening ( open ’til 11 that night). Lil Miss Raisins is braver than I. I don’t do Rockn’ Roller or Tower of Terror (got talked onto the Tower once. 😯 ) But I love the rest of it. Sorry you got stuck with the unseasonable heat.

    BTW, I have that Mickey Braves pin.


  268. 278 Gil in Mechanicsville October 11, 2009 at 9:25 pm

    Welcome back R… You too Jenn… Glad you both had fun.

    Ber, when you are thirteen, the world is your oyster, when you are 40, you are the oyster… When you hit 60, you are just the shell…

    Josie and I took the TransAm out for a spin tonight. It was nice to put the top down even if it was a tad bit on the cool side. Yep, that is about as much excitement as I can stand these days… 🙂

    I am thinking about riding up to Skyline Drive tomorrow. The leaves are starting to turn pretty much now. If we wait much longer we will only see bare tree limbs.

    And baseball…. Brrrrrrr… Phillies and Rockies playing in the ice bowl?

    Angles sweep RedSox so I know SG is disappointed. Me, I am waiting until next February when the pitchers and catchers report.


  269. 279 Voice of Raisins October 12, 2009 at 8:19 am

    Happy Columbus Day!!!


  270. 280 Gil in Mechanicsville October 12, 2009 at 9:06 am

    Columbus Day… Quick, BUY SOMETHING……


  271. 281 Gil in Mechanicsville October 12, 2009 at 9:12 am

    Well, looks like the mountains are out today, Miss Josie said she had work to do…

    I guess I will take my leaf vac motor to the shop. The carb is gummed/stopped up and I have not had any luck with it. Sometimes it’s just easier to pay someone else to fix things.


  272. 282 Voice of Raisins October 12, 2009 at 12:13 pm

    Steady downpour here since the wee hours of the morning. I am scouting gopherwood locations. I spent around $1600 on a drainage system for my back yard this summer, but the new system is overwhelmed with the deluge we are getting and I now have lakefront property – and not in a good way.

    Last week in central Florida, we had temps in the mid- to upper-90’s with a constant baking sun and suffocating humidity every day. We came home to mid-60’s and animals lining up in pairs. At least it isn’t snowing…



  273. 283 berigan2electricboogaloo October 12, 2009 at 1:06 pm

    V, sorry about that… raining pretty hard here in Jonesboro as well…fortunately, we are up on a hill, and it would need to rain for about 40 days and nights for flooding to take place here. Though the lowest part of the subdivision is at the entrance, and it has flooded down there in the past…
    Just heard 2 more inches of rain might fall! 😯

    Power was off til about 15 minutes ago.


  274. 284 berigan2electricboogaloo October 12, 2009 at 1:15 pm

    Was very glad to see the Angels FINALLY get past the Red Sox. 4 times since 1986 the Angels have lost to them. So, one underdog team gets to the next round at least.
    Felt bad for the Twins…which I didn’t think was possible. Think every team should at least win one game in the playoffs…the softy in me.
    So, the Twins, Cards and Red Sox each get swept in 3 games. And the Phils-Rockies series was delayed a day, and finished game 3…at 2:15 AM EST.

    I still think it’s going to be Phils-Yankees in the World series, but you know TV and the rest of sports media is hoping for Dodgers-Yankees. I just hope it’s a 6-7 game series. Don’t want to see a 4 and out win by the Yankees, and the AL is the superior league talk….


  275. 285 Voice of Raisins October 12, 2009 at 1:31 pm

    SI’s Jon Heyman:

    The Braves may consider going after Matt Holliday, who made a huge error in St. Louis’ Game 2 loss but is the biggest star who’ll hit the free-agent market.


  276. 286 Voice of Raisins October 12, 2009 at 1:47 pm

    Potential RH bats as tossed out by MLBTR’s Tim Dierkes:

    Nelson Cruz, 29, hit .260/.332/.524 with 33 home runs in 515 plate appearances this year. However, he is under team control through 2013 and the Rangers have given no indication he’s available. :mrgreen:

    Jonny Gomes slugged .541 this year; he’d fit the bill. He’ll become a free agent if the Reds play it cheap and non-tender him. 😀

    Josh Willingham slugged .496 for the Nationals this year. The Nats may consider him a big part of their lineup, but for the right young arm(s) they’d have to listen. He’s under team control through 2011. 😐

    Paul Konerko slugged .489 for the White Sox. But the Sox are not in a position to subtract a bat, and Konerko has full no-trade rights. 🙂

    Marlon Byrd, a free agent, slugged .479 for the Rangers. He can play any outfield position. Solid player, but Byrd is coming off a career year and the Braves might not prefer doubles power. 😐

    Jake Fox will probably be available this winter. The 27-year-old slugged .468 in 241 plate appearances for the Cubs after a ridiculous .841 mark in Triple A. 😦

    Dan Uggla slugged .459 this year and .514 in ’08. 😀

    Jorge Cantu, .289/.345/.443 could also be available. 😐

    Marcus Thames -The Tigers could non-tender Thames, who slugged .453 this year and .516 in ’08. 🙂

    Xavier Nady is another consideration; he slugged .510 in ’08. 😐

    Mark DeRosa, who the Braves non-tendered in December of 2004, also showed good power last year. 😐

    Magglio Ordonez slugged .494 in ’08 and finished strong this year. However he makes $18MM next year and his 2011 option still might vest. 😐 ( 😀 if we could dump Lowe’s salary in the deal.)

    Corey Hart-Kenshin Kawakami swap. 😦


  277. 287 Voice of Raisins October 12, 2009 at 2:08 pm

    I think Nelson Cruz is a pipedream. I think Maggs would make a fine addition, but at a hefty price; although the difference between his salary and Lowe’s isn’t that great. Oops, just looked at his ’09 numbers. Ugggggly! Dan Uggla would fit OK, but I don’t want to give the Phish anything to improve their team. And he strikes out alot. Plus, he’s yet another 5-6 hitter on a team full of 5-6 hitters. Jonny Gomes is intriguing only in that I have not heard his name mentioned anywhere before – not to mention how many times his name would be misspelled. And I really would prefer more than 20 HR’s and 51 RBI. Plus, he’s yet another 5-6 hitter on a team full of 5-6 hitters. Konerko: 28 HR’s and 88 RBI… not All-Star stats, but he is a cleanup hitter.

    None of those names really excites me. Now, if they could truly make a run at Holliday… or if the are in a position to chase Holliday, why not Jason Bay? That would excite me. Cruz would excite me.

    Much work to be done.

    Any other RH bats you can think of?


  278. 288 berigan2electricboogaloo October 12, 2009 at 2:49 pm

    Other right hand bats??? Well, there is Andruw Jones. Pounded 17 homers, 43 RBI’s, punished the ball all year, and hit…… .214 at the end of the season….of course, I a kidder! :mrgreen:

    Marlon Byrd….he is the guy the Rangers didn’t play Andruw much. 20 Hrs 89 RBI’s .283 BA. Not much of a difference from Konerko’s. But, he doesn’t walk much.
    Dan Uggla 31 HR’s 90 RBI’s but only a .243 BA. Seems to have a knack for the big hit though…and walked 92 times.

    Hmm, who else??? Juan Rivera. I think both of us liked the idea of him playing for us…but the Angels liked that idea as well…Jose Guillen ??? Nope…had a terrible year. 9 HR, 40 RBI’s .242 BA. A head case to boot. sigh…

    I do know a certain left handed bat that will be a free agent. Really, really helped his team improve this year. Helped them go from a T.P. swing at anything close kind of team, that never seemed to get past the first round, to a team that is much more patient…Torii Hunter said he’s his favorite player…doesn’t have a ton of power, but still drove in 103 RBI’s. Stole 30 bases. Had a .393 OBP.
    Bobby Abreu. I know, he will be 36 next year…but he’s a winner. And his approach would be a breath of fresh air on the braves team. But, I don’t think the Angels will let him go this off season.

    I think DeRosa signed a contract extension with the Cards, so don’t know why he even mentioned him.


  279. 289 berigan2electricboogaloo October 12, 2009 at 2:52 pm

    Marlon Byrd….he is the guy who was the reason the Rangers didn’t play Andruw much.
    I like to claim my brain is working so fast, my fingers can’t keep up. Yep…that’s the reason.


  280. 290 berigan2electricboogaloo October 12, 2009 at 2:58 pm

    Actually, I guess I should have said he was the guy…I’ll stop correcting myself now. Wait, should I have instead said……


  281. 291 Carolina Lady October 12, 2009 at 3:06 pm

    This just in!!! Obama wins the Heisman Trophy after watching a college football game!!!


  282. 292 Voice of Raisins October 12, 2009 at 3:30 pm



  283. 293 Carolina Lady October 12, 2009 at 4:54 pm

    Real good to have you back, Raisins!


  284. 294 Voice of Raisins October 12, 2009 at 5:01 pm

    Aw, shucks… 😳


  285. 295 berigan2electricboogaloo October 12, 2009 at 7:00 pm

    CL, LOL!

    Guys (and Dolls 😀 ) Joe Simpson is doing the color on TBS’s coverage of the Rockies-Phils. If the Phils win, no baseball til Friday I think….


  286. 296 berigan2electricboogaloo October 12, 2009 at 7:02 pm

    and is the way me brain is workin’ today….game is on NOW. 3rd inning, Phils up 1-0


  287. 297 Carolina Lady October 12, 2009 at 7:34 pm

    I’d love to take credit for that but it came in email. Still hilarious, IMHO!


  288. 298 berigan2electricboogaloo October 12, 2009 at 7:57 pm

    CL, you can still do good, and vote for Obama to win it! :mrgreen:


  289. 299 Carolina Lady October 12, 2009 at 9:44 pm

    That is just too funny, Ber! 😆 😆 😆


  290. 300 berigan2electricboogaloo October 12, 2009 at 9:58 pm

    Wow, Phils were up 2-1, then the Rockies tied up on A Giambi single…then something happened, a double by a Rockies player put them up 4-2! Rockies crowd was about as loud as I have ever heard. Then Phillies came back in the top of the 9th, scored 2 to tie it up on a Ryan Howard double, and Jason Werth singled him in. Felt terrible for the Rockie fans, but the Phillies are the best team in the NL, IMHO. and I hope they beat the Yankees….


  291. 301 Voice of Raisins October 13, 2009 at 8:30 am

    Looks like Roy Clark likes the offer that Stan Kasten is laying out for him in Washington. That would be bad news for the Braves organization in my opinion…



  292. 302 Voice of Raisins October 13, 2009 at 8:42 am

    Speaking of the organization, organizational meetings begin today in Disney and run through Friday. The team mucketymucks will map out their strategies for this offseason. I can capsulize it in a few statements:

    1. Decide what to do with Huddy.
    2. Decide what to do with KJ.
    3. Decide what to do with Gonzo/Soriano.
    4. Determine the parameters of an offer for Rochey.
    5. Make a list of desirable RH bopper targets.
    6. Look at bench options for 2010.

    Actually, item #1 may be to determine how much $$$ will be available for the 2010 payroll, then proceed with the other items.


  293. 303 Voice of Raisins October 13, 2009 at 8:56 am

    My initial speculation with a time stamp of 8:56am, 10/13/2009:

    -Norton will retire.
    -KJ will be traded.
    -KK will be the pitcher who is traded, although a concerted effort will be made to trade Lowe and his contract.
    -Huddy will sign a team friendly 3 year deal.
    -Church will be non-tendered.
    -Rochey will not be re-signed as the Braves will not want to offer him a 3 year deal, which he will find elsewhere.
    -Soriano will NOT be offered arb, and will sign elsewhere.
    -Gonzo WILL be offered ARB, and will re-sign.
    -Target #1 will be the elusive RH bopper, and Frank will be alot less transparent in his quest this offseason as opposed to last offseason.
    -The Chipper to 1B talk will resume, and intensify.


  294. 304 Voice of Raisins October 13, 2009 at 10:08 am

    For what it’s worth, the ChiSox have granted Minor League Free Agency to Wilson Betemit. Who’da thunk it?


  295. 305 Voice of Raisins October 13, 2009 at 10:10 am

    … and the Royals re-signed Scott Thorman. Wow…


  296. 306 Voice of Raisins October 13, 2009 at 10:44 am


    RHP Derek Lowe vows to work on improving his mechanics immediately — beginning the week after the season ended. “I don’t know where I went wrong,” said Lowe, whose 4.67 ERA was the highest in his five seasons in the National League. “I just got into so many bad habits as far as mechanics.” He’s been flying open, allowing hitters to see the ball, which is why they were able to square up pitches.


  297. 307 Voice of Raisins October 13, 2009 at 10:52 am

    There once was a fellow called Raisins,

    Who returned from a week of vacation.

    He had alot to say,

    But his friends were all away,

    So he exercised blog domination.


  298. 309 Carolina Lady October 13, 2009 at 11:37 am

    Love it, Raisins!

    And I agree with your predictions above. I just hope Clark will stay with the Braves! Can’t keep losing good people to rival organizations!

    Don’t know where our citizens have taken themselves lately! Hiatus after the season? Kidnapped? Lurking? ???????


  299. 310 Carolina Lady October 13, 2009 at 12:58 pm

    Just received a brief note from our friend Chris. He’s still on an insane work schedule. Keep him in your prayers.

    One certain denizen should take note:
    “Would you please make sure that SG takes better care of the saloon this time?”

    The locks have been changed! And I have the only key, SG. :mrgreen:


  300. 311 flbravesgirl October 13, 2009 at 3:35 pm

    Hi, kids! I’m here, just very busy so far this week (just finished baking 6 dozen mini-cheesecakes). Things should settle down now.

    VOR, your list sounds very logical to me. I’d like to keep LaRoche but I think he’ll get a better deal elsewhere too. Hope Mr. Clark has a good assistant the Braves can promote into his spot.


  301. 312 Voice of Raisins October 13, 2009 at 4:14 pm

    It has been reported that Roy Clark has accepted the new position with the Nats. That is a blow to the Braves… 😐


  302. 313 berigan2electricboogaloo October 13, 2009 at 4:24 pm

    Dang!!! He plays a mean Banjo for sure….


  303. 314 berigan2electricboogaloo October 13, 2009 at 4:25 pm

    Did you think I would let so obvious a “joke” pass??? 🙄


  304. 315 berigan2electricboogaloo October 13, 2009 at 4:28 pm

    What’s that??? You’d really like to hear a Harpsichord solo on a Jazz record from the 40s??? Boy are you in luck, I Just happened to have uploaded one.

    Artie Shaw. Dr Livingstone I Presume????


  305. 316 Voice of Raisins October 13, 2009 at 4:35 pm

    Harpsichord Solo? Wasn’t he in Star Wars? Or was it The Man From U.N.C.L.E.? 😀


  306. 317 berigan2electricboogaloo October 13, 2009 at 4:39 pm

    V, 😆

    I put all the info up, forgetting youtube clips show up now…oh well.


  307. 318 Gil in Mechanicsville October 13, 2009 at 4:41 pm


    Well, at least slipped out for a while.

    Been trying to get Miss Josie’s Ford Expedition repaired and between the dealer and the warranty company and the fact that $500 latter we still have the original problem. At least it is on someone else’s dime for a change.

    Managed to get a bit of yard work done too. Does not take much to wear me out but I have to keep plugging along to finish it up.

    So much for the mountains… 😦

    Now baseball… I would like to see the Braves sign Cantu of the Marlins. He can play first and third and has decent power. Actually, excellent power. I like Uggla but not if the Braves require him to play in the field. Just too much of a defensive liability. Honestly, I think Dan makes Kelly Johnson look like a Gold Glover at second.


  308. 319 Voice of Raisins October 13, 2009 at 4:42 pm

    Tim Dierkes today on MLBTR’s Live Chat regarding Huddy:

    Seems highly likely that he remains with the Braves. They will turn down his option, then maybe do one year at $4-6 mil guaranteed plus some kind of 2011 option.

    I have to disagree with him on this one. I think at least 2 years, more likely 3 with an average annual salary closer to the $8-9MM range.

    Look… he made $13MM in ’09, and his option for ’10 is for $12MM. No way he takes that big of a cut for 1 year plus an option. He can get twice that for just 1+1 on the market. He’ll take a cut to remain with the Braves, but only for more years. Dierkes is WAY off on this one..


  309. 320 Carolina Lady October 13, 2009 at 5:02 pm

    Harpsichord Solo. Absolutely Hilarious!

    Roy Clark is one talented guy! Plays all those instruments AND scouts for the Braves! Or used to. Still, very talented!



  310. 321 Carolina Lady October 13, 2009 at 5:06 pm

    Or – how about: banjo, mandolin, guitar, and fiddle?


  311. 322 Carolina Lady October 13, 2009 at 5:11 pm

    And if you REALLY want to see somebody play a fiddle, check it out:
    (or not. Y’all don’t usually look at ’em anyway, but I have fun, so there!) 😆


  312. 323 Carolina Lady October 13, 2009 at 5:14 pm

    Ever heard a military march played on guitar?

    “Under the Double Eagle” like you never heard it before!


  313. 324 Carolina Lady October 13, 2009 at 5:15 pm

    OK. Gotta get back to work.


  314. 325 berigan2electricboogaloo October 14, 2009 at 2:32 am

    CL, I have been playing catch up on work, and just haven’t had a chance to really check out much of anything. (Still want to talk about what V mentioned earlier today-sigh..)
    But I did just play that clip of Roy Clark on the Odd Couple…..W O W !!!! 😯 I knew he was very good, but that is just amazing work. Camera can’t keep up with his hands!
    Thanks for putting that up!


  315. 326 berigan2electricboogaloo October 14, 2009 at 6:37 am

    Better late than never…
    V, very good post a few short…22 hours ago.

    -Huddy will sign a team friendly 3 year deal.
    -Church will be non-tendered.
    -Rochey will not be re-signed as the Braves will not want to offer him a 3 year deal, which he will find elsewhere.
    -Soriano will NOT be offered arb, and will sign elsewhere.
    -Gonzo WILL be offered ARB, and will re-sign.

    You know I just don’t get the Hudson thing. Is he likely to be better than Kawakami??? I said it before,(Well, at least in my head I did) if you had a 1 game playoff, or even a must win game in the playoffs, I wouldn’t hesitate using KK. Hudson??? Not so much….
    If we sign Hudson and trade KK, we are still paying more in salary than we did last/this year, next year. Clear as mud??? Sounds like a riff on the Yogi Berra AFLAC ad.

    Anyway, I still find it hard to believe the faceless corp that is Liberty is going to give us more money when the economy and attendance is down.

    Rochey…I suspect you are right…and I think that would be for the best…but…who’s on first???

    Soriano I would take over Gonzo right now…but he might be too expensive???

    I was for letting Moylan be the closer til I read DOB’s blurb about lefties hitting .315 against him. Still, you can’t really expect to lose both Sori and Gonzo and have the bullpen be as good next year.

    But, we all know what we need. Holliday or Bay.
    I’d go for Bay, myself. Might be cheaper, and seems to do better in the spotlight….


  316. 327 Voice of Raisins October 14, 2009 at 8:28 am

    Ken Rosenthal:

    Barring a last-minute, knockout offer from the Braves, right-hander Tim Hudson plans to become a free agent, according to major-league sources. 😯



  317. 328 Carolina Lady October 14, 2009 at 8:29 am

    Ber, do you think Moylan might be better next year with more time since his surgery?

    I’m finding out first-hand the ups and downs your experience after shoulder surgery!

    Same with Gonzo. Seems like they just came back too fast. Or something. Maybe. Possibly. ?????


  318. 329 Voice of Raisins October 14, 2009 at 8:41 am

    Interesting comments from Mark Bowman regarding Roy Clark’s defection to the Nat’s:

    Sources have indicated that Clark has already started calling scouts to see who is willing to join him in Washington.

    There’s no doubt that Clark is one of the game’s best talent evaluators of amateur talent. But a team source indicated that his departure could allow the Braves scouting department to be a more cohesive unit.

    I suppose that “cohesion” will be measured by how many join him in Washington, huh?

    One more comment:

    Throughout the summer there were indications that Clark was angling to find an organization that would allow him to oversee both the scouting and player development departments.

    Don’t you think that if the Braves homeboys felt Clark’s departure would be too negative, they’d have promoted him themselves? Hmmm…


  319. 330 Voice of Raisins October 14, 2009 at 8:45 am

    I think the disparity in Pete’s effectiveness against RH vs. LH has to do with his delivery. Coming from his arm angle, the ball has to be extremely difficult for RH’s to pick up; not so much for LH’s.


  320. 331 Carolina Lady October 14, 2009 at 11:23 am

    Just really funny: (I know. You won’t look at this one either…)




  321. 333 Voice of Raisins October 14, 2009 at 12:48 pm

    I looked!!!



  322. 334 Carolina Lady October 14, 2009 at 1:14 pm

    Raisins!! You DIDN’T!!! Oh, me…… sigh….


  323. 335 Gil in Mechanicsville October 14, 2009 at 1:18 pm

    ME TOO… 🙂


  324. 336 Gil in Mechanicsville October 14, 2009 at 1:21 pm

    The Philly Phanatic and the San Diego Chicken are assuredly the two best mascots of all time.


  325. 337 Voice of Raisins October 14, 2009 at 1:32 pm

    Braves pitcher Tim Hudson reiterated Wednesday that he’s willing to accept a “hometown discount” to stay with the Braves, while refuting a report that he’s planning to become a free agent and see what he can get on the open market. — ajc



  326. 338 berigan2electricboogaloo October 14, 2009 at 2:14 pm

    I looked too! 😉
    CL, like V said, lefties see right handed sidearmers better. Seems to be a real problem. Eckersley gave up a homer in the WS to left handed Kirk Gibson.
    Kent Tekulve, at least as well as I can remember,(I was just a little Berigan then) was about the best against both lefties and righies.
    But I think you are also right that he will do better being further away from the surgery. Amazing what he was able to do so soon after the surgery!!!


  327. 339 berigan2electricboogaloo October 14, 2009 at 2:16 pm

    Oh if only some sucker team would hire TP this offseason!!!
    I think they just aren’t listening to them as much, and all the injuries they suffered.
    DALLAS — Longtime hitting coach Rudy Jaramillo rejected a contract and will not return to the Texas Rangers next season, a team official said Wednesday.

    Jaramillo’s contract was set to expire on Oct. 31. The team was offering a one-year deal. Jaramillo, who had been with the Rangers since 1995, had interviewed for the New York Mets’ managerial position after the 2004 season.


    The Rangers’ offense struggled in 2009, scoring 784 runs, the fewest since Jaramillo was hired. The team batted .260, its lowest average since moving into Rangers Ballpark in Arlington in 1994.

    The disappointing season came after the Rangers hit .283 and scored a league-high 901 runs in 2008.

    Injuries and inconsistency contributed to the lagging offense. Josh Hamilton played just 89 games and a group of veterans had up-and-down seasons.

    Ian Kinsler tailed off after a strong start. The Rangers didn’t get much from first base as Chris Davis struggled at the start and was sent to the minors for a swing tune-up.

    Manager Ron Washington urged his team to manufacture runs — they did that at times, but couldn’t score enough runs in clutch situations.

    “We have to understand how to score runs without getting base hits,” Washington said a few days after the season. “Put the ball in play. We struck out in situations where if we put it in play, it would have resulted in another run. Now that they’ve been through it, we expect it to get better.”

    The Rangers were 20th in the majors in runs scored and RBIs with runners in scoring position.

    Under Jaramillo, Juan Gonzalez, Ivan Rodriguez and Alex Rodriguez won MVP awards. He also produced three home run champions, two RBI leaders, 17 Silver Slugger award-winners, and a batting-title winner.



  328. 340 Carolina Lady October 14, 2009 at 2:42 pm

    GIL?? Tell me not!

    *does victory dance*



  329. 342 berigan2electricboogaloo October 14, 2009 at 4:13 pm

    How about what Robert Reich said in 2007 about healthcare???? Audio is in the link if it seems too crazy to be true….

    In an audio recording from a September 2007 speech to an audience at the UC Berkeley, Reich reveals what he believes an honest liberal presidential candidate would say about health care. The “truth” about health care as Reich sees it is quite shocking and as you can hear on the recording, he is definitely not kidding. Here is a transcript of the brutal truth about health care as Robert Reich sees it:

    I’ll actually give you a speech made up entirely, almost on the spur of the moment, of what a candidate for president would say if that candidate did not care about becoming president. In other words, this is what the truth is and a candidate will never say, but what a candidate should say if we were in the kind of democracy where citizens were honored in terms of their practice of citizenship and they were educated in terms of what the issues were and they could separate myth from reality in terms of what candidates would tell them:

    “Thank you so much for coming this afternoon. I’m so glad to see you and I would like to be president. Let me tell you a few things on health care. Look, we have the only health care system in the world that is designed to avoid sick people. And that’s true and what I’m going to do is that I am going try to reorganize it to be more amenable to treating sick people but that means you, particularly you young people, particularly you young healthy people…you’re going to have to pay more.

    “Thank you. And by the way, we’re going to have to, if you’re very old, we’re not going to give you all that technology and all those drugs for the last couple of years of your life to keep you maybe going for another couple of months. It’s too expensive…so we’re going to let you die.”



  330. 343 Carolina Lady October 14, 2009 at 4:27 pm

    Interesting Bowman article, Raisins. This caught my eye:

    “Gonzalez is currently under contract with the Marlins through the end of the 2011 season. If he’s not available, another candidate could be Braves bullpen coach Eddie Perez, who has made it known that he would welcome the opportunity to fill the challenge of being Cox’s successor.”


  331. 344 Carolina Lady October 14, 2009 at 4:31 pm

    1. How do you put a giraffe into a refrigerator?

    Stop and think about it and decide on your answer before you scroll down.

    The correct answer is: Open the refrigerator, put in the giraffe, and close the door. This question tests whether you tend to do simple things in an overly complicated way.

    2 How do you put an elephant into a refrigerator?

    Did you say, Open the refrigerator, put in the elephant, and close the refrigerator?

    Wrong Answer.

    Correct Answer: Open the refrigerator, take out the giraffe, put in the elephant and close the door. This tests your ability to think through the repercussions of your previous actions.

    3. The Lion King is hosting an animal conference. All the animals attend….. Except one. Which animal does not attend?

    Correct Answer : The Elephant. The elephant is in the refrigerator. You just put him in there. This tests your memory. Okay, even if you did not answer the first three questions correctly, you still have one more chance to show your true abilities.

    4. There is a river you must cross but it is used by crocodiles, and you do not have a boat. How do you manage it?

    Correct Answer:? You jump into the river and swim across. Have you not been listening? All the crocodiles are attending the Animal Meeting. This tests whether you learn quickly from your mistakes.

    According to Anderson Consulting Worldwide, around 90% of the Professionals they tested got all questions wrong, but many preschoolers got several correct answers. Anderson Consulting says this conclusively disproves the theory that most professionals do not have the brains of a four-year-old.



  332. 345 berigan2electricboogaloo October 14, 2009 at 4:38 pm

    How did I do??? I was putting the refrigerator on it’s back and putting the Giraffe in feet first…I thought I was showing infinitive and looking for real world solutions to seemingly impossible problems. But, I guess I was B’S.ing the wrong way! :mrgreen:


  333. 346 Gil in Mechanicsville October 14, 2009 at 4:42 pm

    I did not answer any questions after number two because I was busy making elephant burgers….


  334. 347 Carolina Lady October 14, 2009 at 4:44 pm

    Garlic or no garlic, Gil?


  335. 349 Voice of Raisins October 14, 2009 at 4:51 pm

    Uh, I quit after “blender” was incorrect on number one…


  336. 350 Carolina Lady October 14, 2009 at 4:52 pm

    WHATEVER you do, DON’T look at this one! You’ve been warned!!


  337. 351 Carolina Lady October 14, 2009 at 5:07 pm

    I don’t know if y’all will find this funny, but if you don’t, show it to your other half. She’ll LOVE it!!!

    Just a point of information, Jeannie Swanner Robertson was Miss NC. 6’2″ in her stocking feet and one funny woman!!


  338. 352 berigan2electricboogaloo October 14, 2009 at 5:22 pm

    CL, ha! infinitive should have been initiative, but I guess I clicked on the wrong word with speel ckek.


  339. 353 Carolina Lady October 14, 2009 at 5:25 pm

    I just watched this one (with headset) and everybody in the house wants to know what I’m laughing at. (I told ’em they’d have to check the blog.)


  340. 354 Carolina Lady October 14, 2009 at 7:07 pm

    After watching those, I just had to know why she calls him Left Brain. Thanks to Google, I now know:


    uses logic
    detail oriented
    facts rule
    words and language
    present and past
    math and science
    can comprehend
    order/pattern perception
    knows object name
    reality based
    forms strategies

    uses feeling
    “big picture” oriented
    imagination rules
    symbols and images
    present and future
    philosophy & religion
    can “get it” (i.e. meaning)
    spatial perception
    knows object function
    fantasy based
    presents possibilities
    risk taking

    And if you’re saying, “Huh?”, go back and look at the clip “Never send a man to the grocery store.” 😆


  341. 355 Carolina Lady October 14, 2009 at 7:55 pm

    “DeMacio got his new position on Wednesday. He replaces Roy Clark, who left Atlanta to become the Washington Nationals’ assistant general manager and vice president of player personnel.

    Sounds like a pretty big promotion for him!


  342. 356 Carolina Lady October 14, 2009 at 7:57 pm

    “Joe Torre says he doesn’t plan to manage the Los Angeles Dodgers after his contract expires.

    “I have one year on my contract and I don’t anticipate it being more than that,” he said Tuesday, two days before the Dodgers open the NLCS against Philadelphia.

    However, he noted, “I’ve said that before and my wife doesn’t believe me at all.” “


  343. 357 Carolina Lady October 14, 2009 at 8:01 pm

    DALLAS (AP) — The Texas Rangers will emphasize situational hitting over slugging next season. That new approach will come from a new hitting coach, too.

    Rudy Jaramillo turned down a one-year deal Wednesday, ending a 15-year run during which the Rangers were among the most feared lineups in baseball and players routinely credited him for their success.

    Jaramillo said his departure has nothing to do with the team’s shift in philosophy. It’s about the uncertainty that comes with the club being for sale and, at 59, wondering what it’s like to be a free agent.

    “It’s just time for me to do right now,” Jaramillo said. “I just felt I needed to try to get some security.”

    That leaves the Braves out!



  344. 358 Gil in Mechanicsville October 14, 2009 at 11:05 pm

    Great clips CL… There was a humorist from South Carolina named Roddy Grey whom I was very fond of. Funny, funny guy….


  345. 360 Voice of Raisins October 15, 2009 at 9:48 am


    RHP Vladimir Nunez, RHP Jorge Campillo and OF Reid Gorecki were outrighted to Class AAA Gwinnett on Oct. 13. Nunez made just one big-league appearance this year, allowing four runs in one inning on Sept. 18 against the Phillies. Campillo’s season ended in late May due to right shoulder tendinitis. He went 1-0 with a 4.15 ERA in five games. Gorecki hit .200 in 31 games with Atlanta.


  346. 361 Voice of Raisins October 15, 2009 at 2:12 pm

    So, Gil…

    The name of your new AA team is to be announced here within the hour, huh? Which one do you favor – Flatheads, Flying Squirrels, Rock Hoppers, Rhinos or Hush Puppies?

    By the way, I like how the 6th name, Hambones, was dropped from candidacy after the NAACP branded it as “offensive”. You know what I find offensive? The hyper-sensitivity of this upside down society in which we live. If people would concern themselves half as much with reality as they do with perception, we’d be in a heckuva lot better shape.

    OK, that was a little off topic, but free. No charge there…

    Anyway, back to the name thing. Seriously, were there no other choices?


  347. 362 Voice of Raisins October 15, 2009 at 2:39 pm

    Oh, geez… now Flatheads is offensive.


    This is so friggin’ ridiculous. What will be left after the Squirrel advocates, the Geology Society, PETA and Florsheim Shoes gets through?

    Maybe the Richmond Non-specific Entities? I’m sure that would be offensive to somebody, though…


  348. 363 Salty October 15, 2009 at 3:54 pm

    How about the Richmond Playas…bet that’s not offensive…just depends on who the audience is!


  349. 365 Gil in Mechanicsville October 15, 2009 at 5:12 pm

    Well, they named the team The Flying Squirrels… I’m pretty offended that they picked such a lame name to represent our fair city. There were many much more appropriate name from which to choose like the Winos or the Panhandlers but I guess those name might have been offensive to a small (or maybe not so small) part of our population. The Flatheads had the inside track until someone waved “insensitive” banner.

    Anyhoo… I not sure if Rocky will be our official mascot or Screech from Ice Age…. Rumor has it that Acorn might have been involved…

    Oh well, I guess I will attend a few games this spring just to see the fur fly…..


  350. 366 Salty October 15, 2009 at 5:29 pm

    I guess my sarcasm didn’t come through so well… 🙄


  351. 367 Gil in Mechanicsville October 15, 2009 at 5:33 pm

    Nor CL’s 🙂 Hey, it’s all good….


  352. 368 Carolina Lady October 15, 2009 at 5:45 pm

    Did I offend someone?? 😯

    I wuz playing! Or is it ‘playa-ing’???

    Now I’m confused….

    Flying Squirrels, huh? That’s nutty.


  353. 369 Gil in Mechanicsville October 15, 2009 at 6:08 pm

    Yeah, I’ll go just to see the Fur Fly….


  354. 370 Gil in Mechanicsville October 15, 2009 at 6:10 pm

    During this off season I plan to buy a Bullwinkle hat.


  355. 371 Gil in Mechanicsville October 15, 2009 at 6:12 pm

    Antlers and all…. Not going to get it until after hunting season though.


  356. 372 Carolina Lady October 15, 2009 at 6:42 pm


    Did the selection committee not consider the “nutty” things they have opened the team and themselves to???

    Of the choices available, the Rhinos would have had the best chance, I would have thought.

    Unless they were scared of offending people with big noses….

    (RIP, Mr Durante! I loved ya!)


  357. 373 Carolina Lady October 15, 2009 at 8:55 pm

    PSA: a nail file is an excellent tool to retrieve tiny things that slip between the keys on the keyboard!

    You’re welcome!


  358. 374 berigan2electricboogaloo October 15, 2009 at 11:23 pm

    CL, what are dropping all over the keyboard??? 😉


  359. 375 Carolina Lady October 15, 2009 at 11:39 pm

    A small piece of the crispy outside of a fried chicken wing. (Cue violins) See, I’m working SO long and SO hard on this genealogy project that I don’t even stop for a proper meal. Just slave away here at the keyboard. *long sigh and sidelong look to see if my drama is being properly appreciated*



  360. 376 Gil in Mechanicsville October 16, 2009 at 7:14 am

    A friend of my brother has a flying squirrel as a pet. I think I was about 6 or 7 years old at the time. I believe said squirrel was a survivor of a tree cutting. The guy was kind of nutty to begin with but the squirrel was neat. He kept him in an old Planter’s Peanut prop. That is, a fiberboard facsimile of a peanut hull that was about 12 inches long and 5 inches in diameter and hollow. Wow, the things you can remember from your childhood when prompted….

    Now baseball… Phillies hang on to beat the Dodgers last night. Lidge is a real Houdini. Good thing for him the Phils offense got him a big lead.


  361. 377 Voice of Raisins October 16, 2009 at 3:04 pm

    Slow day…


  362. 378 Gil in Mechanicsville October 16, 2009 at 3:18 pm

    yep…. Took the trash to the dump today, that gives one an idea of just how slow….

    Also dropped off a generator and the leaf shredder at the repair shop. I just don’t have the patience to clean the carburetors anymore. My fault for not running them dry first but the poor quality of the fuel does not help.

    Now baseball. It will be a miserable night to play baseball in New York tonight.


  363. 379 Voice of Raisins October 16, 2009 at 3:26 pm

    In case anyone missed it, the Braves outrighted Vladimir Nunez, Jorge Campillo, Buddy Carlyle and Reid Gorecki to AAA yesterday. All but Nunez declined the assignment and were granted Free Agency.

    Buddy and Jorge were decent when healthy. Frank will need to add bullpen depth to his “to do” list now…


  364. 380 Gil in Mechanicsville October 16, 2009 at 3:52 pm

    Sounds to me like the Braves are just clearing space on their roster. Maybe Campillo won’t be worn out this year when he shows up for camp because he didn’t already pitch 100 plus innings in the Mexican league or the Classic. While I support the classic in concept, I think it really has a detrimental effect on Major League baseball players by having it in the early spring.

    I must say, Gorecki didn’t show me a whole lot while he was up with the big club. Braves must have given up on Brando Jones….


  365. 381 Carolina Lady October 16, 2009 at 7:02 pm

    Astros interview Ned Yost for manager’s job:

    “A former catcher, Yost was the Atlanta Braves’ bullpen coach under Bobby Cox from 1991-98 and the Braves’ third-base coach from 1999-2002. He said he would apply lessons learned from Cox in fixing the Astros, who went 74-88 in 2009.

    “The Atlanta Braves were in last place for years and years before I got there,” Yost said. “Being a part of a staff that got 12 consecutive division championships, I saw how Bobby did it. I watched how to go about it.” ”

    Ned, come home!


  366. 382 Carolina Lady October 16, 2009 at 7:03 pm

    OK – it’s screen-door-slammin’ time again:

    anybody got any thoughts for the next lead??




  367. 385 Carolina Lady October 16, 2009 at 9:43 pm

    I truly hope it works for him this time. Sounds as if the glasses were a major hindrance for him. Thanks for the link, Raisins!


  368. 386 flbravesgirl October 16, 2009 at 10:16 pm

    Now I’ll have to worry ’til we hear how it went.

    Otherwise I am a happy girl, skating started today. 🙂


  369. 387 Gil in Mechanicsville October 17, 2009 at 5:27 am

    Good morning all, I think I am making progress. I made it all the way until 4:30 before my back said WAKE UP!!!!!

    Well, the Phillies and the Angels both discovered what sloppy defense will do. You just cannot allow a good team extra outs.

    While I liked Ned Yost, he is not my first choice as the guy to replace Bobby Cox. My problem is, I don’t know who my first choice should be. My money is on someone who has no former ties with Bobby because Frank Wren will want his own guy in the club house. Not sure how the front office power struggle will play out at this point but I have seen it happen before.

    Jenn, the cold weather is on the way down there. Just in time for the ice skating I think.


  370. 388 Salty October 17, 2009 at 9:44 am

    Now this is a definition…in my honest opinion.

    Subject: Definition of Political Correctness

    Specifically, there is an annual contest at Texas A&M University calling for the most appropriate definition of a contemporary term:

    This year’s term was: “Political Correctness.”

    The winner wrote:

    “Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t**d by the clean end.”

    R. J. Wiedemann LtCol. USMC Ret
    This guy has nailed it.

    PS: Keeping it as clean as P.C. possible…t**d is not an amphibian! 😆


  371. 389 Carolina Lady October 17, 2009 at 2:06 pm

    Perfection, Salty! Could not be said better! And, make no mistake, it IS a doctrine!


  372. 390 Gil in Mechanicsville October 17, 2009 at 4:50 pm

    Good afternoon all, watching football? I can’t see them playing baseball in NY tonight but stranger things have happened.

    Don’t know if I am going to watch the Tech vs Tech game or NASCAR. Guess it will depend on the weather.

    So, anybody seen SG? Anybody?


  373. 391 Carolina Lady October 17, 2009 at 5:25 pm

    Not me, Gil. He’s probably trying to figure out how to get past the new security system in the Saloon!


  374. 393 flbravesgirl October 17, 2009 at 11:21 pm

    Watching skating here (though Dad went up to Gainesville to watch the Gators). And it is cooler, yay! Predicting a high in the 60s tomorrow, which is unfathomable to me. It was broiling hot up ’til yesterday.


  375. 394 flbravesgirl October 18, 2009 at 12:11 am

    BTW, NBC is showing a bit of the skating tomorrow (well, later today)from 1-3.


  376. 395 berigan2electricboogaloo October 18, 2009 at 7:50 am

    Gee, SG has been away for awhile…hope all is well!

    I have been busy, digging a deeper hole, and digging a new hole to put the newly dug dirt in. I am sure, just like with the Federal government, it will all balance out just fine. 🙄

    Saw the Yankees-Angels game from say the 7th inning on. Still ended up seeing 6 innings. Angels remind me so much of the braves. Great relief pitching, but the other team has the last a.b., and there’s no way to win with hitters forever taking poor swings with runners on….Vlad would have made Frenchy proud with some of his ridiculous swings….
    At least it didn’t go 16 innings.


  377. 396 Carolina Lady October 18, 2009 at 8:50 am

    Gonna have a special treat for y’all shortly!!


  378. 397 Carolina Lady October 18, 2009 at 9:31 am


    And are you in for a treat!! 😀


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