89: 2010 Potential Warms Cold Winter Nights


By ssiscribe

ATLANTA — Nothing chills the heart of a baseball fan more than when the first cold front of the offseason blows through town, sending the garden blooms shivering and the good denizens scrambling for that favorite sweater.

And that’s where we stand on this night along the southern rim of the capital city. On the big TV is a big-time doing: the Yankees and Angels battling in the late innings of Game 2 of the American League Championship Series.

For Los Angeles (times two!) and New York and Philadelphia, the here and now sits squarely in focus. Here in Atlanta, and wherever the legions of Braves Nation lay their heads on this chilly October night, 2010 already has arrived, regardless of what the calendar on the wall reports to us.

Winter has arrived, even if we’re told it doesn’t get here until December. It arrived in late September, after a spirited late-season push by the Braves fell a few games short of a miracle ticket to the postseason party.

For all the hub-bub and boost Atlanta’s torrid September surge provided, I couldn’t help but wonder two things:

1.) We don’t deserve to play in October, given how we’d played in April, May and June.

2.) If we hadn’t played the first 74 games of this season six games under .500, I’d be pulling money aside for World Series tickets.

Therein rests the hope as we look ahead to a new season, one that we’re already thinking about and talking about and obsessing about, even as four teams still try to settle the final matters of 2009. What we saw out of the Braves from the moment they were 34-40 to the dying days of September provide plenty of evidence this team is plenty good enough to be plastered on our TV screens — and not just in our consciousness and discussion — come this time next year.

Certainly, there are questions to address, holes to fill. Let’s face it: after a 90-loss season in 2008, the Braves had two offseasons worth of work to do to get this thing straightened out. Give Frank Wren and Co. credit for addressing the most-glaring need first. Not too long after having to rely on Jorge Campillo, Jo-Jo Reyes, James Parr and Buddy Carlyle to fill out a starting rotation, the Braves have a staff that is the envy of the sport.

Heck, they have TOO many starters, if it’s even possible to find oneself in such a scenario.

Now that the rotation is salted away and salved, it’s time to give the lineup the pop it needs to generate enough runs to propel this squad into the playoffs. Moves made along the way, from trading for Nate McLouth to Adam LaRoche’s homecoming to Martin Prado’s ascension to everyday player status, have helped.

Re-sign LaRoche, find one more bat (preferably right-handed in nature), and this team is golden. I really believe that, and no, it’s not the fumes coming from the Hot Stove on this cold winter’s night providing such an intoxicating aroma.

Baseball 2009 is done for me, despite this ALCS contest playing on my TV. Baseball 2010 awaits. Dare I say, with the evidence at my disposal, the Braves have poured a strong foundation.

Add a few bricks to it, and next October will be a lot warmer.



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428 Responses to “89: 2010 Potential Warms Cold Winter Nights”

  1. 1 Carolina Lady October 18, 2009 at 9:22 am

    Scribe, just beautiful, as always! A million thanks and a big hug!
    It is a special treat to read something from you! 😀


  2. 2 Gil in Mechanicsville October 18, 2009 at 10:48 am

    Great stuff as always sscribe. Yes, the winter doldrums have set in early for me too. With the defeat of Va Tech last night by a Jeckle and Hyde like Ga Tech team last night and Denny Hamlin pulling the dirt over himself with his latest mishap at Charlotte last night, My season is pretty much done. Even the once mighty Redskins have become the latest version of the Bengals. Totally inept and clueless…

    So I sit in that other Capitol awaiting the arrival of the Flying Squirrels who has a single year left of affiliation with the Giants before the inevitable move to become a farm club for the Nationals…. Sigh…

    At least you folks in Atlanta can revel in the resurgence of the Falcons.

    Now baseball…. While I learned long ago not to count my chickens too early, it would at least be nice to have a couple of dozens eggs from which to hedge one’s bets upon…. When the nest is empty to begin with, you are pretty much assured of zero hatchlings…


  3. 3 berigan2electricboogaloo October 18, 2009 at 4:47 pm

    WOW!!!! Didn’t expect that!!!! 😯 😯 😯
    Great to the the international, well..local man of mystery writing a blog!!! You do have a way with words, in case you didn’t know that! 😉

    Let’s face it: after a 90-loss season in 2008, the Braves had two offseasons worth of work to do to get this thing straightened out.

    Very well put! It was a bit much to think they could make that big a leap…if the Rockies hand done the prudent thing, and stayed with the same manager all year, we might have still slipped in!


  4. 4 Carolina Lady October 18, 2009 at 6:17 pm

    Ber, you better get your hind feathers back up there and VOTE! New feature I added.


  5. 5 Carolina Lady October 18, 2009 at 6:18 pm

    I know y’all don’t pay attention, but I redid some stuff in the sidebar – hopefully to make things a little easier to see/find.


  6. 6 Carolina Lady October 18, 2009 at 9:38 pm

    Talkin’ to myself, I am.

    Huh! I didn’t realize I was such a brilliant conversationalist!


  7. 7 berigan2electricboogaloo October 18, 2009 at 9:45 pm

    CL, huh??? I voted for this blog before!!! Or are you talking about somethin’ else????

    As you know, we don’t pay attention. I’m too poor, that’s my excuse.

    Also, never come thru the front door. With firefox, after clicking on the link to a particular blog, say 5-6 times, I just have to type in the number of the blog, say 89, and it shows up in my address window. I am so very lazy.

    So, you could have nude photos of Jessica Biel on the front page, and I wouldn’t know. Gee, you don’t have nude photos of Miss Biel on the home page, do ya??? That wouldn’t make sense. Would make me check the home page daily though! 😳


  8. 8 Carolina Lady October 18, 2009 at 9:58 pm

    Oh, Ber. I don’t even know where to begin!

    No, I took down the – um – photos of Jessica a while back. None of y’all ever looked at them and they weren’t my cup of tea so I hit ‘Delete.’

    Look under scribe’s ending signature. See stars?????

    And there’s this nifty little thing called a REFRESH icon that should be at the top of your screen. Quite helpful. Might want to check it out sometime.

    Firefox has another gadget you might like. Look at the top of your screen and you’ll see File, Edit, etc and TOOLS.
    Click on Tools then choose Options.
    Where it says Homepage, click on Use Current Page.

    When a new lead is posted, repeat that and you’ll never have to try to find the latest page again.


  9. 9 berigan2electricboogaloo October 18, 2009 at 10:11 pm

    Drat, I knew I should have been going to the home page! 😦
    Refresh??? That I am familiar with. But for me, coming from another site, just typing in 2 numbers is oh so easy. Lazy I am, remember??? Not quite BAS lazy, but still lazy.
    Making this my home page would be fine with me, but I think my Pa, who isn’t that big a fan of baseball wouldn’t like that.

    Now baseball…wait, no game tonight, is there??? D’Oh! I thought since it wasn’t on Fox…Confusing. Wow, Phils up 8-0 on Dodgers. Good. Don’t want to see Manny get in yet another W.S.


  10. 10 flbravesgirl October 18, 2009 at 10:18 pm

    Thanks, Scribe!

    Gentlemen, I have some bad news for y’all. Getting online tonight I thought “Wait a sec, isn’t CL’s birthday in Oct.?” Yeah, it is. The 7th !!!!

    My dear Carolina Lady, I am so sorry. 😳 My only excuse is that I’ve had so little computer time lately, I just hadn’t looked at the b-day list. Happy belated Birthday. (((hugs)))


  11. 11 Voice of Raisins October 18, 2009 at 10:42 pm


    So good to hear, uh ,read from you.

    CL… 😳 … Happy birthday 11 days late…


  12. 12 Carolina Lady October 18, 2009 at 10:44 pm

    Hey, FBG! I thank you, dear one! I seem to recall that yours wasn’t exactly ‘on time’ either! I be’s really sorry! 😳

    However, the rest of those turkeys are in a heap o’ trouble!! 😆

    I think I have become a staunch believer in ignoring birthdays. If I ignore THEM, maybe they will ignore ME!
    Huh? That work?


  13. 13 Carolina Lady October 18, 2009 at 10:46 pm

    Hey, Raisins. Thanks! Not even a card, huh? Candy? Rolls Royce?

    😆 Just funnin’! It’s okay.

    sigh… I’ll just – uh – go out in the garden – and – uh – (ain’t gonna eat no worms, I can tell ya that!)


  14. 14 flbravesgirl October 18, 2009 at 10:50 pm

    Just ignore the numbers, CL. The cake & presents deal is still good.


  15. 15 Carolina Lady October 18, 2009 at 10:50 pm

    FBG, if you haven’t seen them already, go back to 88 and watch the Jeanne Robertson clips I posted. Hilarious! You’ll especially enjoy “Never Send a Man to the Grocery Store.”


  16. 16 Carolina Lady October 18, 2009 at 10:51 pm

    But I didn’t get a cake! 😥


  17. 17 Carolina Lady October 18, 2009 at 10:52 pm


    See ya in the morning!


  18. 18 flbravesgirl October 18, 2009 at 11:06 pm

    The problem is that I’m usually online when everyone else is in bed & the office is right next their bedroom. So I usually don’t watch anything with sound ’cause I don’t want to disturb them.


  19. 19 flbravesgirl October 18, 2009 at 11:07 pm

    Maybe I’ll get to make you a cake someday. 🙂


  20. 20 Carolina Lady October 18, 2009 at 11:13 pm

    FBG, I use headphones because Mother has the TV going (loudly!) all day long and the headphones are my first line of defense!

    An FBG cake??!! Yeah! I’ll look forward to THAT! THANKS!


  21. 21 Gil in Mechanicsville October 18, 2009 at 11:32 pm

    I am so ashamed…. Missed CL birthday… What was it? 29 or so? Guys are like that you know, we never remember birthdays. Anyway, my bad…. 😦 And I hope it was a good one for you…

    And the Dodgers really hate cold weather don’t they? Pounded by the Phillies tonight. 11-0…. ouch…

    Okay, time to hit the rack. I doubled up on the pain medicine earlier and it still has hardly made a dent. Hey, that’s my excuse… having to take pain meds causes memory loss… (yep, that’s my story and I’m sticking to it)

    Ber, I use the bookmark feature so I can get back to the blog without a hassle…


  22. 22 Gil in Mechanicsville October 18, 2009 at 11:34 pm

    And I am glad you have posted the birthdays where I can see them… A bit too late but.. well, you know…


  23. 23 Voice of Raisins October 19, 2009 at 8:42 am

    As for B&S access, I use tabs on my Firefox browser. There are always 3 tabs open: 1 is my email, 1 is the B&S, and one is for everything else. Talk about easy to get to…


  24. 24 berigan2electricboogaloo October 19, 2009 at 11:01 am

    CL, I’m so sorry for forgetting your Birthday! 😥
    My I be the first to wish you a happy birthday next year??? 😀


  25. 25 Carolina Lady October 19, 2009 at 2:18 pm

    Blanket forgiveness for everyone! I just figured it out: since no one knew about it, it doesn’t exist! Therefore, I didn’t get a year older! Yes!! That’ll work! 😆


  26. 26 Voice of Raisins October 19, 2009 at 4:54 pm

    So… just who is playing in this year’s Arizona Fall League?

    Glad you asked. Check here:



  27. 27 Voice of Raisins October 19, 2009 at 4:58 pm

    Fun blog by Jeff Lyman, a Braves AFL’er:



  28. 28 Carolina Lady October 19, 2009 at 5:49 pm

    Great find, Raisins! I’ve added a link to his blog under our Braves links so it’ll be easy to keep up with.


  29. 29 Gil in Mechanicsville October 19, 2009 at 11:54 pm



  30. 30 Gil in Mechanicsville October 19, 2009 at 11:57 pm

    Must say, Phillies are pretty impressive. A lot of heart on the team…


  31. 31 berigan2electricboogaloo October 20, 2009 at 5:12 am

    Gil, they sure are! I honestly don’t know how we ever beat them…well, good starting pitching helps, but still…They look like an athletic A.L. East team to me.
    beat the yankees, that’s all I ask!

    Weird to have the heat running in mid October, you know???


  32. 32 Carolina Lady October 20, 2009 at 10:09 am

    You just won’t believe what Obama’s ‘Justice Dept’ has decreed:



  33. 33 Voice of Raisins October 20, 2009 at 11:21 am

    CL, I believe it. Nothing from this administration surprises me anymore. They have long since overstepped the boundary of normal and ordinary, and have made a practice of bully politics, pushing their agenda with no regard for the Constitution, nor for the will of the people. We might as well get used to it; it is the new “normal”.


  34. 34 Voice of Raisins October 20, 2009 at 11:47 am

    Something to think about…

    First, this is an interesting comparison of offensive numbers from this past season:

    Adam LaRoche – .277/.355/.488, 25 HR’s, 83 RBI
    Mark DeRosa – .250/.319/.433, 23 HR’s, 78 RBI

    Next, Adam LaRoche bats left-handed, and plays 1B exclusively. His ’09 salary was $7.05MM.

    Mark DeRosa bats right-handed, and plays 1B, 2B, 3B, LF and RF. His ’09 salary was $5.5MM.

    Adam LaRoche is seeking a multi-year deal, and could conceivably block Freddie Freeman.

    Mark DeRosa is seeking a multi-year deal, and could conceivably move to 3B upon Chipper’s retirement, opening 1B for Freddie Freeman. Or, could conceivably take 3B now, with Chipper moving across the diamond to 1B. Either way, 3B is covered beyond Chipper, and Freddie Freeman is not blocked.

    Neither would be expected to be the cleanup guy, as that should come from the mythical and elusive RH corner outfield bopper. And with DeRosa being RH, it could even open up the bopper search to both RH and LH.

    1- McLouth, CF, (L)
    2- Yunel, SS (R)
    3- Chipper, 3B/1B (S)
    4- mythical bopper, LF (R/L)
    5- McCann, C (L)
    6- DeRosa, 1B/3B (R)
    7- Heyward, RF (L)
    8- Prado, 2B (R)
    9- P

    That’s a dang good lineup.

    Just sayin’…


  35. 35 Voice of Raisins October 20, 2009 at 12:49 pm

    Keith Law:

    Atlanta Braves reliever Lee Hyde was the team’s fourth-round pick in 2006 out of Georgia Tech, but he’s logged just 97 innings since then due to Tommy John surgery and a shoulder injury. The good news: The stuff and approach he showed on Friday night [AFL] would work in any major-league pen right now. Hyde was 92-94 with a sharp 84-87 mph slider that he needs to show he can bury below the zone. He also flashed a changeup with good tumble. He’s not a big guy and his delivery is compact with good leverage and a lot of deception. Hyde finished strongly at AA this year, and if he’s healthy in March and pitches like this, he should have a legitimate chance to make that club.


  36. 36 Voice of Raisins October 20, 2009 at 1:02 pm

    Game report on this year’s first round pick Mike Minor’s last AFL start:



  37. 37 Voice of Raisins October 20, 2009 at 4:17 pm

    From chat with Tim Dierkes on MLBTR:

    Q: If you had to guess, who do the braves get as their “big right handed bat?”

    Dierkes: “Jake Fox, Jorge Cantu, Jermaine Dye, and Josh Willingham are my top candidates. All speculation though.”


  38. 38 Gil in Mechanicsville October 20, 2009 at 6:20 pm

    I would put Cantu at the top of my wish list….

    I also think it is important to consider defense. That is why I think the Braves should re-sign Roachie. That said, I doubt anyone will listen to my suggestions. I already know what Frank Wren thinks of “bloggers”…


  39. 39 Voice of Raisins October 20, 2009 at 7:10 pm

    Jorge Cantu: .289/.345/.443, 16 HR’s, 100 RBI

    Hit 29 HR’s in ’08, bats right, hit in the cleanup in 145 games for the Phish last season, played 111 games at 1B, 45 at 3B.

    27 years old, made $3.5MM in his 1st year of arb in ’09.

    Could be a keeper and move to 3B when Chipper retires.

    Seems a likely target. Answers both the “righty cleanup” and “1B” questions.


  40. 40 Gil in Mechanicsville October 20, 2009 at 11:20 pm

    Now, the question is who do the Braves have to trade to the Fish? Or want to?


  41. 41 Voice of Raisins October 21, 2009 at 8:53 am

    Well, they are almost certainly to lose Uggla because they don’t want to pay him. Maybe Diory Hernandez and a low level pitching prospect? That fits their MO of starting over with cheap non-arb players every 2-3 years…


  42. 42 Voice of Raisins October 21, 2009 at 9:02 am

    From Matt Cerrone’s MetsBlog.com:

    Earlier today [Tuesday] on WFAN, SI.com’s Jon Heyman said he believes the Mets would like to sign Matt Holliday to play left field next season.

    Heyman said he feels the Braves, Giants and Mets will compete for Holliday, though he ‘wouldn’t be shocked to see him go to the Yankees, Red Sox or Cardinals.’

    In the end, he believes Holliday will stay in National League.


    Is it really possible that the Atlanta Braves of 2009, owned by Liberty Media, would actually compete on the FA market for the #1 FA, a guy who will likely sign for $18MM/yr or more, and a guy represented by Scott Boras?

    I can’t see it…


  43. 43 Voice of Raisins October 21, 2009 at 9:13 am

    The only way I can see that happening is for one of the high $$$ pitchers to be traded. Lowe, KK, or JV would have to go, and I don’t think they want to trade JV. They would almost certainly have to trade Lowe – a task that will not be easily accomplished.

    They’d also have to go cheap everywhere else. Soriano, gone (although I believe he’s gone anyway.) Gonzo, gone. Rochey, gone.

    It could mean they address 1B and closer internally.

    And here’s something else to consider. N8’s on the books for $4.5MM for 2010. He could be moved to free up some $$$ with a cheaper option playing CF until Schafer returns. If Holliday were to be signed, N8 is the odd man out anyway. We all know Schafer and Heyward are definitely in the near future plans.

    That said, if the 2 youngsters could actually live up to their hype, an outfield of JHey, Schafer and Holliday could be tremendous.

    This will surely be one an interesting Hot Stove season for our Bravos…


  44. 44 Voice of Raisins October 21, 2009 at 9:55 am

    All that being said, I don’t see a Holliday signing happening. Just don’t. LF is pretty hard to figure out because of N8 and OF prospects that are on the verge of being here. JHey is a given in RF, most likely by mid-season. Nate is under a relatively team friendly contract through 2011, with a team option for 2012. And I don’t think for a second they have any less expectations for Schafer after last season’s showing given the fact that he played with a wrist injury that required surgery. His biggest failing was not reporting the injury sooner. So if you sign a premier FA for LF, he’s gonna get at least 3 years if not 4-5. N8 or Schafer would be out. No way around it.

    Gotta be a trade for a short contract.

    Same thing goes for 1B. If you sign a premier guy, and Rochey is a premier guy in this year’s crop, you have to go at least 3 years blocking FredFree.

    So what do you do? Maybe trade for a LF or 1B with 1-2 years left on his deal? The problem is, if you trade for quality, you have to give up quality. And for just 1-2 years. Tough… tough.

    The best match is trading our high $$$ pitcher coming off a disappointing season – Derek Lowe – for someone else’s high $$$ slugger coming off a disappointing season- Magglio Ordonez, maybe? – and hope last year was an aberration. Then you’ve traded salary for salary, and position of excess for position of need. And hope for a rebound. On both sides.

    This is why Frank Wren gets paid more than I do.

    Wouldn’t it be nice to just go out and stroke a check like the Yankers do? Sabathia, Burnett, Tex, ARod… It’s like going to Kroger to pick up a few items:

    Ring… ring… “Hello, Joe? Brian… I’m running to the FA market. Need anything? Wait.. let me make a list. OK, shoot… Uh huh… first baseman… couple of starters… extend ARod… anything else? OK. Back in a bit.” Click…



  45. 45 berigan2electricboogaloo October 21, 2009 at 10:27 am

    V, as Mel Brooks said in History of the World, Part 1, it’s good to be King! And that’s what the Yankees are. What’s funny is they didn’t sign folks like Abreu, and did save some money to only spend it on the F.A’s

    I Don’t think we can get a 27 Y.O. Cantu for a guy who can’t hit. They trade guys like him, or Uggla, for teams best prospects….


  46. 46 Voice of Raisins October 21, 2009 at 12:47 pm

    From the Phish roster, I’d rather have Cody Ross. He’s due the same salary bump as Cantu, so he could be made available for the right deal. He knocked 24 HR’s to go with 90 RBI. He hit .270/.321/.469, bats right, and plays a very good defensive OF. He’s 29, though, and never batted higher than 5th in the batting order.

    That said, Cantu or Ross would give you similar offensive production and cost you about $5MM in salary (which is why the Phish may part with one or both, along with Uggla who’ll probably get $8MM in arb). Either would fill a position of need. The question is, what would one of them cost in return? And would the Phish deal within the division?


  47. 47 berigan2electricboogaloo October 21, 2009 at 3:31 pm

    V, love your new Avatar! :mrgreen:


  48. 48 berigan2electricboogaloo October 21, 2009 at 3:48 pm

    And its a good question, will the Marlins trade within the division????


  49. 49 Voice of Raisins October 21, 2009 at 5:10 pm

    ajc’s Jeff Schultz:

    This will be an interesting offseason for Braves general manager Frank Wren. He wants to re-sign pitcher Tim Hudson. But doesn’t know if he can. He wants to trade Derek Lowe or Kenshin Kawakami for a bat. But he doesn’t know if he can, and he has to see how things develop with Hudson first. He wants to re-sign LaRoche. But doesn’t know if he can, and if he can sign Hudson and trade Lowe or Kawakami for a bat then maybe keeping LaRoche becomes less crucial for the everyday lineup. The difference between things going right and things going wrong will be the difference in the Braves playing in October next season or wondering when this post-season drought ends. Either the dominoes fall in sequence or the Labrador runs through the room and knocks everything over. Wren probably was correct when he speculated last winter’s quest to remake the starting rotation caused more stress than this one will. But this off-season tips one way or the other very easily.


  50. 50 Voice of Raisins October 21, 2009 at 5:10 pm

    FOXsports.com’s Ben Maller believes that Milwaukee has real interest in Lowe…


  51. 51 Voice of Raisins October 21, 2009 at 5:14 pm

    Rick Peterson doesn’t have a clause in his contract as the Milwaukee Brewers’ new pitching coach that stipulates he’ll get at least two new starters for 2010. But Peterson got the impression during his interview with general manager Doug Melvin that help is coming. “I know in the interview that Doug made it clear that was a focus of the organization,” said Peterson. — Milwaukee Journal Sentinel

    Ahem… Derek Lowe!!!



  52. 52 Voice of Raisins October 21, 2009 at 5:16 pm

    TBS lead announcer Chip Caray has had a terrible NLCS, often unable to distinguish between grounders, liners and flyballs, and this was part of his call on Jimmy Rollins’ game-winning double Monday night: “Here’s the throw to the plate! Not in time!” Uh, Chip, there was no throw. Cutoff man Rafael Furcal didn’t bother. — SF Chronicle



  53. 53 Carolina Lady October 21, 2009 at 8:35 pm

    I love that Avatar, also, Raisins. It reminds me of me trying to figure out what my mother wants.


    “What would you like for supper tonight?” And she tells me.

    So, I go into the kitchen, get out all of the ingredients and start cutting, chopping, sauteing, seasoning, cooking, and whatnot for an hour or so.

    Prepare her plate so that she can manage everything easily (i.e. – cut up just so, arranged just so, utensils placed just so)


    she takes one look at it and says, “I don’t want this. I told you I wanted (fill in the blank – whatever it was that she didn’t say…)”

    That’s when the pot holder usually winds up on top of the refrigerator or somewhere….


  54. 54 Voice of Raisins October 21, 2009 at 9:21 pm

    Chopping, sauteing, seasoning? That makes me hungry just thinking about it…


  55. 55 Carolina Lady October 21, 2009 at 9:22 pm

    V, 😆

    Braves 2010 season schedule is up. I posted under our Braves links. You’re welcome! 😀


  56. 56 Carolina Lady October 21, 2009 at 9:36 pm

    from Michael Yon (link under Stuff): The man can write!!

    “17 August 2009
    Sangin, Afghanistan

    The roads are so littered with enemy bombs that nearly all transport and resupply to this base occurs by helicopter. The pilots roar through the darkness, swoop into small bases nestled in the saddle of enemy territory, and quickly rumble off into the night.

    A witness must spend only a short time in the darkness to know we are at war. Flares arc into the night, or mortar illumination rounds drift and swing under parachutes, orange and eerily in the distance, casting long, flickering but sharply defined shadows. The worst that can happen is that you will be caught in an open field, covered by nothing and concealed only by darkness, when the illumination suddenly bathes you in light. Best is to stay low and freeze and prepare to fire, or in the case of a writer, to stay low and freeze and prepare to watch the firing.

    Explosions from unknown causes rumble through the cool nights while above drifts the Milky Way, punctuated by more shooting stars than one can remember. The Afghanistan nights will grant a wish to wish upon a shooting star. And while waiting for the next meteor, the eyes are likely to catch tracer bullets.”

    Wow. And you oughta check out some of the stunning photos he has taken while with our troops in both Iraq and Afghanistan. I’ve been a supporter of his for a long time.


  57. 57 Carolina Lady October 21, 2009 at 10:57 pm

    More from Michael Yon:
    “Corporal Benjamin Kopp was shot and evacuated to Germany, then back to the United States, where he died just over a week later on 18 July. Benjamin was 21 years old and at the very tip of the spear. If not for such men, we would be at the mercy of every demon.

    Benjamin Kopp and his comrades were delivering the latest bad news to the sort of people who harbored the terrorists who attack innocent people around the world every day, and who attacked us at home on 9/11. Ranger Kopp was a veteran with three combat tours. He knew the risks, yet continued to fight.”


  58. 58 Carolina Lady October 21, 2009 at 11:00 pm

    There are some incredible photos taken on a patrol where the CO is shot in the leg (snapped the femur in two), shot again in the leg and shot in one arm.

    He continued to direct the firefight and returning fire. He was out in the open where no one could go to pull him to safety.

    Two news guys on the patrol froze. Michael grabs a weapon, loads it and – well, read and see it for yourself. It’s amazing.

    His reports should be required reading for every American.


  59. 59 Gil in Mechanicsville October 21, 2009 at 11:26 pm

    Great link CL… Thanks, It is good to read an honest evaluation for a change. It has been my long held conviction to play to win or get out now. None of that token war that seems popular with some people.

    On a lighter note… It appears that Pepe LaPew has paid the dogs a visit tonight… Whooowheee… That polecat was ripe. Now so are the dogs, you would think they would have learned by now that getting into a pi**ing contest with a skunk is a no brainer… By the way, contrary to old advice, tomato juice is ineffective in removing the stink….

    And speaking of stink… The Dodger pitching had a bad case of gopheritis tonight. Looks like the Phillies and the Yanks this year.


  60. 60 berigan2electricboogaloo October 21, 2009 at 11:50 pm

    Phillies Win, Phillies Win!!!
    Now, beat those Damn Yankees!!!! 😀


  61. 61 Voice of Raisins October 22, 2009 at 7:58 am

    Mr. O’Brien’s report on last week’s Braves organizational meetings:

    [Frank] Wren and his top assistants were there, with the Braves’ seven major league scouts and, of course, manager Bobby Cox, presumably the last organizational meetings he’ll attend as manager (he’s announced he’s retiring as manager after next season, as you know).

    “It’s not just talking in the meeting room [during the four days],” Wren said. “Sometimes it’s at dinner, or breakfast, or while we’re watching instructional league games. Guys kick ideas around. It’s really just four-day brainstorming session of how we might put the team together…

    “It went very well. We got everything accomplished that we wanted to, as far as talking through every situation, the free agents and how they would fit on our club. We’re prepared, once the free-agent period begins, to start making our calls and getting in the mix for guys we’re interested in.”


  62. 62 Voice of Raisins October 22, 2009 at 8:36 am

    Random gut feeling:

    The Mets will overpay and sign Adam LaRoche…

    … nauseating, but it’ll happen. I’ll betcha.


  63. 63 Gil in Mechanicsville October 22, 2009 at 10:44 am

    Sadly for LaRoche, he won’t like New York… Sigh, the things you will do for money…

    Question, Is the Phils’ offense really that good or the Dodger’s pitching all that bad?


  64. 64 Salty October 22, 2009 at 11:31 am

    Ssscribe…nicely done, as per usual. Thanks!

    Salty’s predictions…
    1. LaRoche is signed – Freeman is a year away…and in year two, he can provide bench pop and learn further from Adam. Don’t dismiss Adam’s D…it saves extra pitches for the staff. If Freeman progresses faster, Adam can be dealt in year two with an affordable contract for the acquiring team.
    2. Heyward will be with the team…perhaps even Schafer, and naturally McLouth. That’s an OF with pop and speed. Church and Diaz provide added depth and a bat, meaning Schafer could be a LF…or McClouth plays CF when Diaz is in.
    3. Hudson stays…Soriano is sayonara…Gonzo’s back…Kenshin stays…Lowe, I have no idea. But…don’t be surprised if any trade with Lowe happens just prior or during spring training when other teams transition from the ‘Braves are desperate to move Lowe’ to ‘we need a starter…NOW!’
    4. I like Cody Ross…too…and would be happy simply to see him not beat up on the Braves.
    5. I like Cantu, tu 😆
    6. I reserve the right to change my mind!


  65. 65 Voice of Raisins October 22, 2009 at 12:03 pm

    The whole Lowe/Milwaukee connection intrigues me. I have only read that mentioned once, but it has caused me to do a little research on the Brewers and their offseason plans. It truly looks as though they are completely focused on acquiring 2 starters, very similar to Frank’s plan last year, and have all but promised new pitching coach Rick Peterson that he’ll have them. I can absolutely see where Lowe and his groundball tendencies would be desirable in Miller Park, as would his veteran presence.

    Here’s where I see a snag…

    1st, I don’t necessarily see a trade match. We don’t want Corey Hart, and don’t need JJ Hardy. They aren’t trading Prince Fielder or Ryan Braun. They have an interesting prospect in Mat Gamel, who could play either corner IF position, but he is like every other prospect in that he is unproven. Additionally, he is apparently not able to displace unknown incumbent 3B Casey McGahee. They also don’t have bullpen depth to help us there, so a match is difficult to find.

    2nd, they are going to have to address the major issue of paying Prince Fielder a boatload of $$$ after this season. Taking on Lowe’s hefty contract won’t necessarily facilitate that.

    But he would sure make a nice start to fixing their rotation woes, so who knows…


  66. 66 Voice of Raisins October 22, 2009 at 12:13 pm

    Mat Gamel, 24, bats L, plays 3B/1B.

    .246/.340/.431, 5 HR’s, 20 RBI in 61 games. (Projects to 14/54 over 162 games)

    Ranked #23 overall prospect by MLB.com. From their assessment:

    Statistically speaking: While it was impressive that Gamel led the Southern League in RBIs, total bases and extra-base hits, he also finished second in average, fourth in OPS and fifth in slugging. It seems even more impressive when considering he played the last two months with a bad elbow and he hit .243 in July and .205 in August.

    Scouting report: A terrific pure hitter from the left side, Gamel has better than average power and pop to all fields. His defense lags behind the bat — as his error totals indicate — though he has improved. Most of the miscues were of the throwing variety.

    Upside potential: If he can improve defensively, a terrific everyday third baseman who can hit in the middle of a lineup. His bat will play at other positions, too.


  67. 67 Voice of Raisins October 22, 2009 at 12:15 pm

    Casey McGehee, 27, bats R, plays 3B.

    .301/.360/.499, 16 HR’s, 66 RBI in 116 games. (Projects to 25/93 over 162 games)

    Hmmm… maybe we should inquire about this guy…


  68. 68 Carolina Lady October 22, 2009 at 1:15 pm

    Good info!

    Again, from Michael Yon: (the man is a poet with words) –
    “This war is just beginning. Great war is in the air. The feeling is as conspicuous and distinct as the smell of rain, or that morning every year when the first chill of winter tickles the senses. The corn will soon be harvested. The fields will become brown and fallow. The snows will come and blow across barren lands, and next Spring the war will be worse than ever before. It will grow higher than the corn.

    Still under the Milky Way, at the tiny and remote ANA compound, some of the British soldiers seemed to be sleeping. Everyone wore boots in case of attack. Occasionally a 2 Para soldier would emerge from the darkness for a guard shift. The ambush they had prepared for the Taliban lay quiet. The dogs had stopped barking hours ago.

    Slowly the stars crept through the sky. Hours melted by and constellations seemed to drift through space as the Earth turned below.”


  69. 69 berigan2electricboogaloo October 22, 2009 at 7:51 pm

    CL, he can write, for sure!

    V, I just don’t think we can wrest Mat Gamel from the Brewers. Not for an old starter who wasn’t very good last year. I kept hearing them talking about needing to keep prospects, what with them being a “small” market team. They draw 3+ million, but small market. read…cheap.

    They have to think long and hard about Prince Fielder. No one knows how long he will hold up in the field. And he’s going to demand a lot of moola. They may very well trade him, and will ask for and get a lot. Do we have enough pieces to get him???? Could we afford him if we traded Lowe and didn’t re-sign Hudson and Soriano?????


  70. 70 Voice of Raisins October 23, 2009 at 8:58 am

    Can’t trade Lowe and lose Huddy, too.

    I’ll be interested to see where Frank finds a match here. Magglio Ordonez comes to mind. Big time power potential, big time contract, disappointing 2009. Maggs isn’t the only one.

    Gotta make a decision on Huddy before anything else can happen, though. He is the linchpin that defines all of the other moves.


  71. 71 Carolina Lady October 23, 2009 at 10:58 am

    I’d like to see them keep Huddy but don’t know if they’ll be able to trade Lowe’s contract.

    And you’re right: trade for WHO?


  72. 75 berigan2electricboogaloo October 23, 2009 at 12:39 pm

    To me, Magglio Ordonez is a slightly younger G.A. 9 homers last year, 21 the year before.
    And he’s a Hugo Chavez supporter, do we really want that?? 😉

    CL, Dodgers might want Vasquez….but I recall he doesn’t like being out west. To far from home when he was in A.Z.
    They decided to let Lowe go, would they want him back???
    If not, we aren’t going to trade Jurrjens or Hanson…Kawakami????


  73. 76 berigan2electricboogaloo October 23, 2009 at 12:40 pm

    Did FBG and SG run away and join the circus????


  74. 77 Carolina Lady October 23, 2009 at 1:01 pm

    FBG doesn’t get the computer too often.
    Dunno WHAT has happened to SG! Time to round up the posse and go lookin’??

    Braves better NOT trade Jurgens!!! I really don’t care about KK. I just never ‘warmed up’ to the guy.

    I am truly disappointed by GA’s lack of performance this year. I had really hoped that he would bring what the Braves needed. He sure had that potential. sigh….


  75. 78 Carolina Lady October 23, 2009 at 1:03 pm

    Oh, wait! Has anybody checked the saloon??? I had the locks changed but…..

    Chris will kill me if he comes back to what he had to clean up LAST time….

    Ohhhhhhhhhh…………. I better go see how many bazillions we have left in our account!


  76. 79 Carolina Lady October 23, 2009 at 3:16 pm

    Of interest to (probably) no one but me:

    In North Carolina, public health officials said that 900 people have been hospitalized with H1N1 and 30 have died.

    Last week, a pregnant woman in the county next door to mine, was terribly sick with it for nearly 6 weeks and was finally transferred to Duke Medical Center where her baby was delivered early at 30 weeks just before she (the woman) died.

    Some serious stuff!


  77. 80 Gil in Mechanicsville October 23, 2009 at 4:37 pm

    Bad stuff CL, made worse by a government that has created something of a panic and then has failed to deliver a solution.

    I got my seasonal flu shot yesterday and had my normal reaction to said shot last night. Fine now other than tired from cutting down 5 trees today.

    Josie and I are headed to a political rally tonight sponsored by the 9-12 group.

    Wearing this old guy out….


  78. 82 Voice of Raisins October 23, 2009 at 5:11 pm

    Very funny furniture store commercial:


  79. 83 Voice of Raisins October 23, 2009 at 5:11 pm

    Another funny commercial:


  80. 84 Voice of Raisins October 23, 2009 at 5:15 pm

    Last one… and maybe the funniest:


  81. 85 Carolina Lady October 23, 2009 at 5:38 pm

    😆 , Raisins!

    “My wife’s boyfriend hit me in the face with a fence post..”

    Funny!! But who knows? Maybe it’s true!


  82. 86 Salty October 23, 2009 at 9:03 pm

    High Point is a ‘with it’ town! 😆

    And VOR…your new avatar…cool! Now I know what a Raisin on caffeine and week’s growth of beard looks like! Pretty…uh…wired!


  83. 87 berigan2electricboogaloo October 23, 2009 at 9:26 pm

    CL, I too thought G.A. was going to do better than he did. He wasn’t terrible, played in a lot of games for him…he can still hit, but isn’t really a driver in of runs.
    Funny, just now thought of the fact he should have been batting 2nd. He LOVES fastballs, and with Nate in front of him, he would have seen them…did anyone mention this during the year????


  84. 88 berigan2electricboogaloo October 23, 2009 at 9:28 pm

    Salty, very apt description of that avatar!
    Listening to Pandora.com right now…glad you mentioned that many a moon ago, I would really be sunk being tied to the computer, doing work…without it!


  85. 89 Carolina Lady October 23, 2009 at 10:24 pm

    Hm. The only Raisin avatar I see is the confused guy. Wonder why?


  86. 90 flbravesgirl October 24, 2009 at 12:14 am

    VOR, love the fuzzy purple motney. Have I mentioned that purple is my favorite color? If y’all ever saw my room or closet you’d know.

    We went to the So You Think You Can Dance show tonight. Fabulous.


  87. 91 Gil in Mechanicsville October 24, 2009 at 4:28 am

    Funny commercials… bad, but funny…. Buy a trailer or don’t… Okay, I won’t…

    Sigh…. It’s 4:30 AM and I cannot fall asleep. And I am very tired. Weird huh?


  88. 92 Voice of Raisins October 24, 2009 at 11:19 am

    As I sit on what has thus far been a lazy Saturday morning, but is going to become very hectic within the hour, I had a very “out of the box” thought…

    Obviously the Braves are seeking a RH power bat to plug into the cleanup spot. Those are few and far between. Nelson Cruz has been mentioned many times as that bat, but the question has been what would Texas want in return? Surely the price, if they were to actually trade him, would be pretty steep.

    Not to mention, Cruz is pretty young, and wouldn’t just be holding a spot for a year or so. What does that mean? That means Cruz + Jhey + N8 + Schafer = 4 outfielders.

    Follow me here… Texas is likely to lose CF Marlon Byrd to FA. (Byrd isn’t a bad hitter himself, but his numbers outside of Arlington were just OK.) Could the inclusion of say, maybe, N8 make a trade possible? An OF of Cruz in LF, Schafer in CF and JHey in RF would be pretty darn good. And Cruz would still be affordable enough to allow you to re-sign LaRoche back at 1B.

    Cruz would likely cost you N8, Medlen or KK, Jojo Reyes and a prospect. Is it worth it?

    The issue is, JHey and Schafer are both on the way. JHey most likely by mid-season, and Schafer at least by 2011, if not sometime in 2010. So how do you acquire an impact guy and still make room in the appropriate time? Short contract veterans such as Magglio Ordonez or Jermaine Dye are still going to cost a bounty in return, with only short term return, not to mention their health and production concerns. Wouldn’t it make sense to get a younger guy if you have to give up alot in trade?

    Man, Frank has a difficult job…


  89. 93 Voice of Raisins October 24, 2009 at 11:43 am

    Been doing a little more reading before I exit this thing and go about my day…

    I think Nelson Cruz has the potential to be a solid power bat for many years. He also plays very good defense. Did I mention he’s still a year away from arb?

    An outfield of Cruz/Schafer/JHey could be very good for a number of years.

    Texas would want, at minimum, a veteran starter, a LEFTY reliever, a righty veteran bat and a prospect.

    Would you give up KK, O’Flaherty, Diaz and JoJo Reyes for him?

    I would, but I’m afraid even that might not be enough.

    But just imagine:


    Then in 2 years:

    mystery 3B acquired for N8

    Pretty young and solid.

    Just sayin’…


  90. 94 Voice of Raisins October 24, 2009 at 11:44 am

    Later gators…


  91. 95 Gil in Mechanicsville October 24, 2009 at 7:26 pm

    And a great day for Clemson fans… Congrats Salty…


  92. 96 Carolina Lady October 24, 2009 at 8:23 pm

    Gil, what is that – ceiling fan, box fan, rotating fan? Salty got one? Sale at Home Depot?


  93. 97 Gil in Mechanicsville October 25, 2009 at 6:08 am



  94. 98 berigan2electricboogaloo October 25, 2009 at 3:24 pm



  95. 100 Gil in Mechanicsville October 25, 2009 at 6:58 pm

    Well, I’m not… Just goofing off. Watched the NASCAR race and parts of several football games. Although I did pick up some limbs and branches out of the yard this morning.

    Awaiting the baseball game tonight…


  96. 101 Salty October 26, 2009 at 6:52 am

    And a great day for Clemson fans… Congrats Salty…

    Thanks, Gil! :mrgreen:

    CL…you’re such a card! 😆


  97. 102 Voice of Raisins October 26, 2009 at 9:05 am

    Is anyone else bothered by Mark McGwire’s return to Major League Baseball? Is it just me? Am I wrong?

    It’s one thing that he was one of many, many, many drug abusers in the game during his time, but his shameless performance in front of Congress will always stick in my mind.

    So Andro was not on the banned list when he used it. Does that make it right? So he never tested positive for other steroids he was named to be using. Of course, MLB didn’t have testing during his career either. Does that exonerate him? (You know, Jose Canseco was called alot of things when he started naming names, but all of his “predictions” have come to pass. You think he might have been telling the truth?)

    To me, Mark McGwire is the poster child for the t-shirt that says, “It ain’t illegal if you don’t get caught.”

    He’s also an icon for the steroid era.

    It should be surprising that MLB has given the green light on this, but given that Bud Selig is the Commissioner, I guess it really isn’t. Bud is and idiot.

    Now Tony LaRussa is bringing Big Mac in as his hitting coach. Big Mac, whose career batting average is .263. Stellar. He only hit over .300 for the season three times – once in only 89 games played, once in only 27. But he’s gonna teach hitting. That’s like asking Ozzy Ozbourne to teach opera. When was he ever asked to hit and run? When was he ever asked to sacrifice? How about just hit it to the right side and move the runner over? He knew one thing and one thing only. Swing for the fences. What is he going to teach Brendan Ryan and Skip Shumaker? Swing hard in case you hit it?

    All that aside, I don’t think he should be back in a game that still has the rotten smell of the after effects of the steroid era lingering in the room. (After effects, you say? How about broken down pitchers who suddenly cannot stay healthy, or former all-star veteran hitters who have seemingly “forgotten” how to hit?)

    I never really liked Tony LaRussa that much; now I really don’t.

    It’s just wrong. At least it is to me…


  98. 103 Carolina Lady October 26, 2009 at 10:45 am

    “That’s like asking Ozzy Ozbourne to teach opera.” Terrific, V! 😆

    And I fully agree about Mac. Cardinals get a black eye with this one.


  99. 105 berigan2electricboogaloo October 26, 2009 at 11:13 am

    V, I don’t know how I feel on the subject. I always liked him, and he disappointed me with how he handled the steroid issue. But, he wasn’t a scummy guy like Canseco….Gammons used to bash him all the time while he was still playing, didn’t understand it til much later-Loved to watch Canseco swing, that homer in Toronto that was in the upper, upper deck…man..didn’t know it was steroid enhanced.
    Remember how Sosa came back after a year??? Afer all of the sudden not being able to speaka da inglish, in front of congress???
    Giambi, and Sheffield still play, and we all know what they did.

    You are right though, he will probably suck as a hitting coach.


  100. 106 Voice of Raisins October 26, 2009 at 11:21 am

    No respect for Sosa, Mac, Palmeiro… all had a chance to come clean, all failed miserably.

    As for Canseco being scummy… why? because he dropped a dime on everybody else? He was the one guy that took the fall for all of the abusers. He missed out on the absurd idol worship and more absurd contracts of guys like Mac and Sosa. In the end, he was the one guy that told the truth. High character guy? Maybe not so much. But he’s no more “scummy” than any of the other cheaters in the game.


  101. 107 Carolina Lady October 26, 2009 at 11:29 am

    If anything, Conseco had more “honor” than the others because he DID come clean and ‘outted’ the others who were trying to stay hidden. Don’t have respect for any of them – but at least Jose told the truth.

    Three cheers for Greg Maddux, Tom Glavine, John Smoltz et al who put up the numbers and did it CLEANLY!


  102. 108 Voice of Raisins October 26, 2009 at 11:32 am

    By the way…

    Andy Pettitte was accused, admitted his wrong, faced the media, apologized to everyone, and never once tried to blame anyone or anything other than his own poor judgment. He is a stand up guy who made a mistake and owned up to it. He is evidence that people can make a mistake and still show character.

    That is how Mac could have responded. Instead, he lied, he sidestepped, he hid.

    And now he is being rewarded by being welcomed like a returning hero back into the fold. I don’t like it.

    I truly hope there is at least some kind of public backlash. I’m not holding my breath.


  103. 109 Voice of Raisins October 26, 2009 at 12:00 pm

    Now.. onto more pleasant topics, like speculating about the Braves off-season moves.

    Is anyone else a little surprised that the Huddy negotiations started last week and are continuing this week? The Braves have until 5 days after the completion of the WS (which at MLB’s slow pace, could be after the winter meetings!) and Huddy has another several days to reply. To begin the process now indicates to me a certain sense of purpose.

    It isn’t too difficult to extrapolate (FOB?) that signing Huddy and defining both dollars and years sets in motion the rest of Frank’s “to do” list. Without that signing, there is no surplus of starters. The blurbs I have read over the last week or so indicate that Frank has already been on the phones, and has determined that there is genuine interest in both Lowe and Kawakami. That doesn’t mean that working out any deal with any team is either imminent or easy, but it does at least give him an idea of which paths to pursue.

    It also helps better determine what his payroll might be, not just for 2010, but for ’11 and ’12 as well. So he has some idea what he may be able to offer Rochey during their exclusive negotiating period. By my smalltown math calculations, a reduced Huddy contract for 3 more years, minus the remaining 3 years on Lowe’s contract might just equal a 3 year offer to Rochey. Or at least relatively close. (Lowe’s $15MM – Huddy’s $9MM = $6MM. Of course, Adam will probably get $7MM or $8MM annually, but you were already gonna pay SOMETHING, right?)

    So by that logic, the $$$ he may spend on 1B might not affect his pursuit of the mythical RH bopper for LF.

    Of course, this is all just pure speculation, but it is kinda fun to talk about… 😀


  104. 110 Carolina Lady October 26, 2009 at 1:00 pm

    Super analysis, V! I think you’re right on in your thoughts. He almost HAS to settle one way or the other with Huddy first. Sure will be interesting to follow, huh?


  105. 112 Gil in Mechanicsville October 26, 2009 at 3:51 pm

    My observation has been it’s only cheating when the other guy does it…. At least that is the sense I get from San Francisco and LA…

    Live or Memorex, that will be a question that will surround every single player in the last 20 years or so. Would not be surprised if it extended well before that.

    Yes, Huddy might be the lynch pin for the Braves this year as far as who will be available for trade and how much money is in the till. I would take Hudson over either Lowe or Kawakami any day of the week.

    I don’t think it will hurt Freddie Freeman one bit to play in AAA for a couple of more years. One rookie on the team at a time… Heyward, Schafer and Freeman all at once would not be a line-up that would evoke fear but then, the guys we fielded this year didn’t exactly make the other team quake in their shoes either.

    I don’t control the purse stings but if it were my team, I would resign LaRoache and let 2011 take care of itself. My guess is there will be a big turnover anyway when Bobby leaves or the team is sold.


  106. 113 Gil in Mechanicsville October 26, 2009 at 3:57 pm

    And I think Palmeiro really did not know it was steroids, he was getting his “B12″shot from Tejeda who denied everything.

    Not that it really matters anymore.

    As far as “confessing” to Congress. Those guys wouldn’t know the truth if it stared them in the face. Besides, didn’t any of you guys watch the link CL posted on the right to remain silent? Best advice I have ever seen. Sent it to each of my kids and all my friends.

    I stopped talking to the press 10 years ago…..


  107. 114 Voice of Raisins October 26, 2009 at 5:04 pm

    I would resign LaRoche and let 2011 take care of itself.

    Yep… I tend to agree with ya there…


  108. 115 Carolina Lady October 26, 2009 at 5:19 pm

    “Live or Memorex” – Brilliant, Gil! 😆

    “I would take Hudson over either Lowe or Kawakami any day of the week.” I’m with you there, although I’d keep Lowe over KK. I would hope that Lowe could ‘bounce back’ from whatever-it-was and have a year of which he is perfectly capable of having. I have never liked KK from day 1. Just something intangible about him that sent negative ‘vibes’ (for lack of a better word) to me – and I don’t believe in that ‘vibe’ stuff…..


  109. 116 Carolina Lady October 26, 2009 at 6:24 pm

    Acta new chief of Indians.


    Oct. 24, 2009
    CBSSports.com wire reports

    NEW YORK — New York Mets minor league pitcher Rafael Castro has died of an apparent heart attack. He was 18.

    Castro died on Friday at the Mets’ academy in Carabobo, Venezuela. The Mets announced his death on Saturday.

    Castro had spent two years with the Mets’ team in the Venezuelan Summer League. The right-handed pitcher was from Colombia.






  110. 117 Salty October 26, 2009 at 7:33 pm

    I have never liked KK from day 1. Just something intangible about him that sent negative ‘vibes’ (for lack of a better word)

    Hey, KK’s not the only one who forgot your birthday! We all did! 😛 :mrgreen:

    Give him a break…hard to act ‘American’ when you don’t know the language. Which brings to mind…if a Japanese or an Ethiopian is in the USA, no one thinks twice that they don’t belong here. If you or I, or other Occidentals are in Japan or Ethiopia…we STAND OUT. Is this not a great country?


  111. 118 Savannah Guy October 26, 2009 at 8:24 pm

    Hey y’all. Long time no see.

    Vibe stuff?

    Got’cher vibes here.


  112. 119 Carolina Lady October 26, 2009 at 8:49 pm

    “Hey, KK’s not the only one who forgot your birthday! We all did! 😛 :mrgreen:

    Salty, 😆 😆 😆 😆

    (I’m gonna hafta get a bigger dog house, I think. Speaking of which, does anybody know where the key is??)

    SG!!!!! Where you been??? GLAD to see you back amongst us!
    You’ve been missed!

    Now, we have to find FBG. And Hillbilly. And BASteve. And CHRIS!


  113. 120 Savannah Guy October 26, 2009 at 9:18 pm

    Hey CL, Happy Birthday! Late, but happy.

    CL, I’ve been all around here and there… mostly there. Just lots goin’ on, that’s all. Always amongst ya, even when I ain’t physically (or blogally) amongst.

    I’m torn on the WS. On one hand, ya always wanna pull for the team that plays against the richest team in the world. On the other, I’d like to see Jeter, Pettitte, Rivera and Damon get another. It’d be good to see Tex get one too.

    On the other hand, it would be nice to see Lidge and Utley get another… and Bako too.

    Yet on the other hand (is that three?), I’d rather not see A-Roid get a ring at all. On the other (four?), I really never cared for Pedro “who’s yer daddy”.

    I’m leanin’ towards the Yanks, because of Pettitte (good guy, one of my favorite warriors) and Rivera (the best all-time closer and consummate pro). But how can anybody root for the Yanks? Well, as you can see, I’m torn.

    I’m hoping the best team wins and let them sort it out themselves.


  114. 121 Carolina Lady October 26, 2009 at 9:45 pm

    Thanks, SG! (The saloon is locked, by the way. With new locks. And Chris and I have the only keys…)

    WS: I like Pettitte also – but I simply cannot root for the Yankees in any situation.

    In reality, if the Braves are not in the mix, I really don’t care all that much who wins. As long as it is not the Yankees.

    So I guess it’s Go Phillies for me. (I LOVE the Philly Phanatic! Had a link to a great feature on that guy on the last lead (I think).


  115. 124 flbravesgirl October 26, 2009 at 11:06 pm

    I’m here, CL. Dad has taken to staying up later recently, so that cuts into my time even more. Grr. I’ll be so glad when we move, I’ll have my own computer on my level (since I will actually have room for it).


  116. 125 Gil in Mechanicsville October 26, 2009 at 11:16 pm

    I would agree about KK when he first appeared on the scene. I saw him pitch in DC and he was sloooow. It was like he was afraid to throw a pitch. Once he picked up his tempo he was much improved.

    Lowe said his mechanics got out of whack.. No kidding…. Said he was tipping his pitches, yep, I’d say they were all waiting on his sinker, then they would golf it out for a hit….

    Wife said the Yankees in three…. I said it would be pretty tough for the Yankees to win the series in three since it was best 4 out of 7…. Still… it is the Yankees….


  117. 126 Gil in Mechanicsville October 26, 2009 at 11:18 pm

    I mean… the umpiring has been pretty weak so far…


  118. 127 Salty October 27, 2009 at 7:31 am

    This is just wrong…sorry. The kid’s gonna be stiffer than Gil before he hits puberty!



  119. 128 Voice of Raisins October 27, 2009 at 7:57 am

    In reality, if the Braves are not in the mix, I really don’t care all that much who wins. As long as it is not the Yankees.

    Yep. I agree 100%.

    And, like the prodigal SG said, I like a few of the Yankers individually – Pettitte & Rivera likewise come to mind – but I cannot stomach the thought of purchasing a World Series. And with their offseason gluttonous spending spree that brought them CC Sabathia, A.J. Burnett, Teixeira, etc., it is just a tainted accomplishment IMO.

    As they say, money cannot buy happiness… but it can sure rent it for a little while.


  120. 129 Salty October 27, 2009 at 8:01 am

    OK…this test ain’t as easy as it appears, but it does force you to concentrate. The mind really plays tricks on you…I think it’s actually a dementia test. If so, I feel better…at least I overcame! 😆


  121. 130 Voice of Raisins October 27, 2009 at 8:03 am

    Remember Tyler Yates?


    Wonder if that would be worth a cheap flyer and a AAA rehab? Might be nice to stash a guy with ML experience in Gwinnett for a callup in the 2nd half of 2010.

    Maybe… maybe not…

    Just a random thought.


  122. 131 Voice of Raisins October 27, 2009 at 8:41 am

    Mark Bowman:

    Like Jimmy Buffett, come Monday, [Jason] Heyward is hoping that he will be alright. The highly-regarded outfielder has been dealing with a strained gluteus muscle that has prevented him from playing in the Arizona Fall League since Oct. 17.

    The Braves remain hopeful that Heyward is simply dealing with a minor injury that will allow him to resume playing with the Peoria Saguaros within the next couple of days.

    There doesn’t seem to be much reason to believe that Heyward is dealing with a significant injury. But the lost playing time certainly lessens the development that would benefit him if the Braves do decide to have him start the 2010 season as their starting right fielder.

    I’ve written that it doesn’t seem logical to believe that Heyward could start next year in the Majors. But as time passes, there’s growing reason to believe that the Braves are certainly open to this possibility.

    A more concerning development from the AFL stems from the early struggles encountered by Freddie Freeman. Before recording a pair of hits in five at-bats (through eight innings) on Friday, the 20-year-old first baseman had gone 1-for-19 with nine strikeouts. ***According to Jeff Lyman’s blog, many of Freeman’s contact outs have been line drives right at people.


  123. 132 Voice of Raisins October 27, 2009 at 8:43 am

    More Bowman:

    Now back to [Tim] Hudson. My guess is that the two parties could reach an agreement within the next week. My guess is that the 34-year-old right-hander will agree to a three-year extension worth approximately $27 million and also gain an option for the 2013 season.

    If the deal with Hudson is secured, we’ll likely start hearing more about the possibility of moving either Derek Lowe or Kenshin Kawakami.


  124. 133 Voice of Raisins October 27, 2009 at 8:44 am

    Heck… here’s the whole Bowman piece:


    It’s a good read.


  125. 134 Voice of Raisins October 27, 2009 at 8:48 am

    Hey, Salty.

    I scored 75%, and I’m color blind. What does that mean?



  126. 135 Carolina Lady October 27, 2009 at 9:08 am

    Whew! 88% I think I’m still good ta go! 😆 And it IS hard!


  127. 136 Carolina Lady October 27, 2009 at 9:11 am

    I’m really glad the Hudson negotiations are progressing well and quickly. I think Huddy sincerely wants to stay with the Braves and probably told his agent to ‘make it happen.’ How many addition millions does a person really need, anyway??

    Personally, I’m working on my second million. Gave up on the first one! 😆


  128. 137 flbravesgirl October 27, 2009 at 12:35 pm

    What do I win for 100%?


  129. 138 berigan2electricboogaloo October 27, 2009 at 12:48 pm

    FBG, I got 100% also! Of course, the first time I got 0% then 13%, then 38%. 😳 I did get 100% the next time. Needed to keep the cursor off the button, kept changing the color on me!!!


  130. 139 berigan2electricboogaloo October 27, 2009 at 12:51 pm

    I want the Phils to win. I think I have already said this. If the Yankees win, if somehow they beat up Lidge in the 9th twice at home, then win 2 more in Philly, all the A.L. folks will start that the NL is a AAAA league. And that really burns my britches!


  131. 140 berigan2electricboogaloo October 27, 2009 at 12:59 pm

    Hey, I was going to say somethin’ about Canseco. I will make such a brilliant point, you all will change your mind, and say I am right! 😛

    Lets say CL, FBG, V, SG, Chris and myself decided to buy some cocaine and snort it off of Gil’s back??? Umm, Ben Gay with Coke, extra high…play along with me. (can you tell I haven’t slept????) Then I decide to tell the police…it was stupid, it was illiberal. But, should I be thought of as less scummy, for getting everyone else in trouble????

    Canseco didn’t give a blank about the game, he just wanted to make some money, and get another chance at some fame. He got both. He’s a snitch in my book.

    I still think he is scum…and he was once my favorite player back in the day. Speed and power. But all drug induced.

    And as sad is the Steroid/HGH use is, most of the players did it when it wasn’t against baseball’s rules.

    I don’t think McGuire, Bonds, Or Sosa belong in the Hall, but I don’t think they should be kept out of the game, either….


  132. 141 berigan2electricboogaloo October 27, 2009 at 1:02 pm

    Here’s a chunk of a St. Louis sportswriter take on the McGuire subject…Will post link at end, if you want to read the rest of it…

    Why not hire Mark McGwire?
    Bernie Miklasz
    Sports Columnist Bernie Miklasz
    [More columns]
    By Bernie Miklasz

    Mark McGwire is the Cardinals’ new batting coach, and if you’ve come to this space looking for moral outrage over his hiring, then you’ve gotten off at the wrong bus stop.

    Perhaps I’ve become too jaded by the standards on display in professional sports. A Rams player who killed a woman while driving drunk has played a dozen years in the NFL. The Philadelphia Eagles signed an ex-con quarterback who tortured and murdered innocent animals.

    The New York Yankees won the American League pennant with considerable assistance from Alex Rodriguez (steroids) and Andy Pettitte (HGH) and I don’t see anyone storming the gates of Yankee Stadium, demanding their removal from the World Series roster. I was in Los Angeles for the NLDS, and Manny Ramirez was still batting fourth in the lineup, and the Dodgers still had their “Mannywood” sign in left field.

    There are so many rogues, rascals and rapscallions earning paychecks while playing or coaching games, I simply cannot have a tantrum over McGwire’s new career opportunity. Moreover, I don’t believe most fans care about steroids. There’s no sign that they do, no evidence that they’ve stayed away in protest or disgust. Baseball attendance dropped slightly this year because of the economy, but the industry’s growth over the last 10, 12 years has been remarkable.

    This is the entertainment business — the key word being “business.” It isn’t the monastery or a Boy Scout meeting. McGwire is going to roll some videotape and have meetings with hitters and suggest a better way to get base hits off Ted Lilly. McGwire wasn’t hired to be the team chaplain, or life coach or to serve as the role model for the children of St. Louis. He’s going to offer proverbs such as “keep your front shoulder in” and “keep your hands back.” Really deep stuff, there.

    McGwire has never been charged with a crime. He’s never been convicted of a crime. He hasn’t been banned by Major League Baseball. He’s eligible to be hired. And the man who runs the sport, MLB Commissioner Bud Selig, celebrates McGwire to this day.

    And if you want to disqualify McGwire from working at a batting cage because he almost certainly used steroids in a playing career that ended in 2001, or because he made a fool of himself in testimony before Congress, that’s fine.

    But if we outlaw McGwire, we’d better take a pen and cross out hundreds of names of players who competed during the Steroids Era. They can’t work, either. Same with the managers, coaches, general managers, owners and commissioners who looked the other way while bulked-up players went on juicing binges to power up the competition and the box office. Good luck putting together 30 teams.

    All of that said, the McGwire hiring is problematic for other reasons.

    I don’t believe he knows what he’s getting into.
    bullet BERNIE: Why not hire McGwire?
    bullet BURWELL: Cards should press slugger to open up
    bullet GORDO: McGwire needs to come clean
    bullet CARDINAL BEAT: Team updates
    bullet CARDS TALK: Sound off about La Russa, McGwire
    bullet VIDEO: La Russa returns
    bullet POLL: Thumbs up or down on McGwire’s return?
    bullet PHOTOS: McGwire’s No. 62

    I don’t believe the Cardinals realize what they’re in for.

    I don’t understand why McGwire has decided to leave a peaceful, secluded life to open himself up to greater scrutiny.

    The Cardinals need to increase their onbase percentage by taking more walks, but why walk into a controversy?

    The hiring of McGwire only reinforces the perception that this is a steroids-friendly franchise. They’ve employed players who have flunked baseball’s official steroids test (Ryan Franklin, Ron Villone). They’ve employed players implicated in performance-enhancing scandals (Troy Glaus, Rick Ankiel).




  133. 142 berigan2electricboogaloo October 27, 2009 at 1:09 pm

    I didn’t know that Ryan Franklin and Ron Villone had these kinds of issues! Troy Glaus, Rick Ankiel(HGH)

    How about ol’ Jordan Schafer??? Granted, he was accused of this in minor league baseball, but I think if he was truly innocent, he would have fought tooth and nail to clear his name. Just like with the other players that say, the union said…well, it’s your very career on the line, you will forever be tarnished as a guy that took performance enhancing drugs. If you were not guilty, would you take a 50 game suspension???? I’d do everything possible to prove my innocence. If I was innocent….


  134. 143 Voice of Raisins October 27, 2009 at 1:36 pm

    Fed who led steroid probe questions Mark McGwire’s return to St. Louis Cardinals as hitting coach

    “It’s basically rewarding a guy who hasn’t stood up and taken a stand against this stuff,” [now-retired FBI agent Greg] Stejskal said. “There’s been no mea culpa, and instead he became a recluse. It reminds me of a passage from Proverbs: ‘The wicked flee where no man pursueth.'” Amen!



  135. 144 Voice of Raisins October 27, 2009 at 2:13 pm

    Ber… first, the visual you provided is, well… 😯

    Anyway, there is a difference, in my opinion.

    By all means, Canseco intended to make a buck off of his book (a book, by the way, that contained the truth.) He had lost his ability to make a living from baseball after being the ONE guy to take the fall for everyone else. The rest continued to make mega-bucks off of the result of their illegal actions. Some have admitted it, like Pettitte and Tejada. Some continue to lie and evade, like Sosa, Palmeiro and McGwire.

    You said, “And as sad is the Steroid/HGH use is, most of the players did it when it wasn’t against baseball’s rules.”

    While that may be technically true, it was illegal. It was against the law. And I think maybe being illegal trumps “wasn’t against baseball’s rules”. Again, just my opinion.

    As to the Jordan Schafer issue. I’ll make 2 points.

    First, he wasn’t suspended for being caught using HGH. He was suspended after a MLB investigation concluded that he “committed a HGH-related infraction” that was as much due to the company he kept as to his own direct actions.

    Second, Schafer owned up to the infraction and met it head on. He never hid, he never skulked away, he never evaded questions. In fact, he apologized to his team and to his fans and said, “So I was taking responsibility for what I did — and I was wrong for being around that. I should’ve never gotten around the situation. I never took a steroid or anything to make me better. But at the same time, I knew what was going on and I hung around those people and I didn’t say anything.” Admission of guilt, and responsibility taken.

    The kid took responsibility. The adult Mac never has, and in my estimation, he never will. If and when he does, my tune will change.

    Now, on to the writers who want to give him a pass.

    I have seen that one, and others including some award winning national writers who take the same stance.

    I say they are all wrong. They are another symptom of a degrading society that wants to write off a wrong by saying, “it was a log time ago” or “we have moved past that” or “everybody else did it” or “they never proved it” or “they didn’t hurt anybody”. Sounds like some of the things I told my Mom when I was 8 years old.

    Wrong is wrong. Period. Those who bury their heads in the sand make it no more less wrong. Until Mac acts like a responsible adult and owns up to his actions, he deserves no pass. Those who condone it do not either. The Cards have taken a step down in my book. I am not so much surprised that LaRussa is involved in it, but I am still surprised that the Cards brass approved it.

    And heck, Mac still hides. He wasn’t even at his own press conference. The Cards have bitten off an awful large chunk of something. I wonder if they’ll endure the taste or spit it out?


  136. 145 Voice of Raisins October 27, 2009 at 2:17 pm

    “no more less wrong”? 😳

    Well… that was clear as mud…


  137. 146 Voice of Raisins October 27, 2009 at 2:37 pm

    Mark McGwire gets a new student in a few weeks: Brendan Ryan. The Cardinals shortstop is going with Schumaker for this winter’s workouts. Shortly before Thanksgiving, Schumaker will begin working with McGwire in Orange County, Calif., three days a week. Ryan will drive in from Los Angeles twice a week for instruction. McGwire’s first act as Cardinals hitting coach could be finding Ryan’s trigger. — St. Louis Post-Dispatch

    Not touching that line… 😀


  138. 147 Voice of Raisins October 27, 2009 at 2:40 pm

    The New York Post ran a photo shopped picture of Phillies star Shane Victorino in a cheerleading outfit on its front page. The headline: “Gothan Trembles, The Frillies are coming to town!” ran on the cover. –FOXsports’ Ben Maller

    😆 😆 😆 😆 😆


  139. 148 Salty October 27, 2009 at 3:29 pm

    I scored 75%, and I’m color blind. What does that mean?

    You guess well? Something in the raisin geneology…? Defies logic…then again, so does your avatar! 😛

    What do I win for 100%?
    You’re a leftie, aren’t you FBG? And…you read instructions, not that it helps. The test really gets the two-sides of the brain in a real ‘wrasslin’ match.


  140. 149 Voice of Raisins October 27, 2009 at 3:46 pm

    Heyward will not return to AFL

    After meeting with Braves doctors in Atlanta on Tuesday, Jason Heyward learned that he won’t be able to resume playing in this year’s Arizona Fall League.

    Heyward played just four games in the AFL before being shut down on Oct. 17 because of discomfort in the region where his hamstring meets his gluteal muscles.

    According to an industry source, the Braves doctors have projected that Heyward should return to health after a few weeks of rest and rehab. With the AFL’s regular season concluding on Nov. 17, there wasn’t any reason for the 20-year-old outfielder to rush back to action.

    Because the Braves are still thinking about having Heyward begin the 2010 season as one of their starting outfielders, there’s a chance that he could be sent to Winter League to further his development heading into Spring Training.

    When asked about this possibility on Monday night, Braves general manager Frank Wren said that he first wanted to get the diagnosis from the club’s doctors. — Mark Bowman

    You think they’re being extra careful with their prize? I do… and I would too!


  141. 150 Carolina Lady October 27, 2009 at 4:56 pm

    Cubs get new owners:

    “Tom Ricketts, 44, who will serve as board chairman, said it was time to “go to work building the championship tradition that all Cubs fans so richly deserve.” The Cubs have not been to the World Series since 1945 and have not won it since the second of back-to-back championships in 1908.”

    “Tom Ricketts was a market maker at the Chicago Board Options Exchange and finance executive before starting investment bank Incapital LLC in 1999. A Chicago investment banker, he is a Cubs die-hard who grew up watching the team, once lived in an apartment across the street from Wrigley and first met his wife in the stands at a game there.”

    An owner who loves baseball?? Wow. Bet he’s going to spend some money on contracts, huh?


  142. 151 Savannah Guy October 27, 2009 at 6:58 pm

    Just passing through, but wanted to share this nice little 7-minute piece showing an example the way it used to be, the way it rarely is, and the way it ought to be in amateur sports… and in life.

    Winning with grace and losing with honor.


  143. 152 Carolina Lady October 27, 2009 at 7:28 pm

    AND it’s a true story. Beautiful, SG!!


  144. 153 Salty October 27, 2009 at 8:18 pm

    That was just too cool, SG…thanks!


  145. 154 Carolina Lady October 27, 2009 at 9:32 pm

    Here’s the video of the actual footage, comments by the girls, coaches and umpire:



  146. 155 flbravesgirl October 27, 2009 at 10:21 pm

    Nope, Salty, I’m a rightie. But I do read instructions & I love puzzles of any kind, from jigsaw puzzles to figuring out a mystery.


  147. 156 flbravesgirl October 27, 2009 at 10:23 pm

    Good for the Cubbies. I’d like to see a lot more owners that are real fans.


  148. 158 Carolina Lady October 28, 2009 at 11:07 am

    Wow! That is a magnificent letter. The man tells it like it is. Thanks much, Salty!


  149. 159 Gil in Mechanicsville October 28, 2009 at 11:59 am

    My take on the whole mess is… Win or leave… No handicapping should be allowed, their is no such thing as a fair fight in a war. The object should be to crush your enemy or you should not fight at all. End of story….


  150. 161 Voice of Raisins October 28, 2009 at 3:10 pm

    No news… slow news…



  151. 162 Carolina Lady October 28, 2009 at 3:15 pm

    WAKE UP, RAISINS!!! You’ll have the imprint of a keyboard on your face.


  152. 163 berigan2electricboogaloo October 28, 2009 at 4:38 pm

    What Gil said!

    Hey, this looks like a real deal, anyone interested????


  153. 164 Voice of Raisins October 28, 2009 at 5:25 pm

    Funny stuff, Ber…


  154. 165 Carolina Lady October 28, 2009 at 5:27 pm

    from CNN – Lou Dobbs takes Congress to task for the “Immigration” bill they are in the process of passing:


  155. 166 Salty October 28, 2009 at 6:42 pm

    Lou doesn’t behave very CNN-ish, if you catch my drift!


  156. 167 Carolina Lady October 28, 2009 at 7:09 pm

    I agree, Salty. Guess he’s their ‘token’?

    It’s a hoot that Obama & Co are raising Cain about Beck et al, but they loooooove the guy from Hardball and Keith whatisname. What if W had done something like that?


  157. 168 Gil in Mechanicsville October 28, 2009 at 7:30 pm

    Ber, I wonder if he would like some pine tags in trade….

    Listening to Glen Beck today, he wasn’t that far off from my speculation that in order for America to pay off it’s debt they would have to sell Alaska to China…

    I am rooting for the Phillies only because I like the Phanatic…


  158. 169 Carolina Lady October 28, 2009 at 7:45 pm

    …but then China would have to deal with Sarah – and I don’t think they’d want to do that. Besides, they’d have all that oil that OUR congress won’t let us have.

    IDEA! Send them CONGRESS! And O.


  159. 170 Carolina Lady October 28, 2009 at 8:19 pm

    Well, our little blog has been ‘rated’ by someone who calls himself ‘southernj’: Here’s southernj’s rating and comments:

    Braves And Stuff has just been reviewed by southern j..
    Reviewer: southern j.
    Rating: 0.1
    Comment: Stale content … redundant … boring chatter …

    I thought even a jackass had more class than that.

    What’s he doing over here, anyway?


  160. 171 Carolina Lady October 28, 2009 at 8:34 pm

    You’ll be shocked to read this: He rated his own blog as 10/10 and calls it a ‘great family blog.’ Really? I never go there so I wouldn’t know.



  161. 172 Gil in Mechanicsville October 28, 2009 at 8:44 pm

    What can I say, I have found in life that 87% is really 100% because you always have someone who descents.

    Consider the source, shake the dust from your shoes and move on….


  162. 173 Gil in Mechanicsville October 28, 2009 at 8:46 pm

    Besides, I am a Flying Squirrel, what would I know???


  163. 174 Gil in Mechanicsville October 28, 2009 at 8:48 pm

    Or is that judge not, lest ye be judged…. At least he is still reading the blog evidently.


  164. 175 Carolina Lady October 28, 2009 at 9:01 pm

    He can’t resist trying to hurt people, even those who tried very hard to help him at a time when nobody else would – even those he now calls ‘friend.’

    Deliberately hurting just for the sake of hurting others is the lowest, pettiest, meanest and LOWEST level that a person can stoop to.

    Could it be jealousy? Or just plain mean-spirited? Doesn’t matter. His actions tell the entire world what he is.

    Case closed.


  165. 177 Voice of Raisins October 28, 2009 at 10:38 pm

    Rosenthal’s reporting that it’ll get signed by the end of the week. But then again, he often talks out of his… suffice to say he often overstates for readership.

    He also says that “Hudson initially leaned toward going out on the open market”, something Hudson has denied several times.

    And he says “The re-signing of Hudson could lead the Braves to trade another of their starting pitchers — most likely right-hander Javier Vazquez or right-hander Derek Lowe — for a hitter.”

    Frank is not trading JV, and has as much as said so. Where does Rosey get his information, anyway?


  166. 178 Voice of Raisins October 28, 2009 at 10:42 pm


    A source familiar with the negotiations said Wednesday night that Tim Hudson could be just a few days away from agreeing from the three-year contract extension that the Braves have offered.

    “It’s getting pretty close,” said this source, who added that there are just a few “small details” that need to be ironed out.


  167. 179 Voice of Raisins October 28, 2009 at 10:50 pm

    Frillies on their way to beating CC in the Zoo in Game 1. It would be a huge, HUGE win for the seemingly inferior NL team.


  168. 180 flbravesgirl October 29, 2009 at 12:17 am

    Congrats to the Phils. While I admit I don’t care for their fans, I do think they’re a very good team & seem to be good guys. Plus I adore the Phanatic. Oh and I’d root for anybody over the Yanks. Ick.


  169. 181 berigan2electricboogaloo October 29, 2009 at 12:23 am

    As I say just about every year…I sure hope some braves players are watching. Look at how patient both teams are. Did you hear Cliff Lee say he never gets nervous?? 😯
    After Each homer, Utley was very calm. Like they expect to do well, cool as the other side of the pillow, as that ESPN dude used to say….


  170. 182 Gil in Mechanicsville October 29, 2009 at 3:08 am

    The Phils with good pitching, now that’s a scary thought… They sure looked like world beaters tonight didn’t they?

    Oh by the way, reading some of the conjecture on Bowman’s blog, man, are there some weak comments or what. Cannot anyone over there figure out that pitching is a rarer and more valuable commodity than hitting? Big contract not withstanding, D Lowe will bring a good price. Actually, so would any of the Braves starting staff.


  171. 183 Voice of Raisins October 29, 2009 at 8:24 am

    Yep, Gil… so many are quick to dismiss the recipe for winning 14 straight division titles, which was “pitching and defense”. Of course, hitters like Justice, McGriff, Gallaraga and Chipper didn’t hurt anything, either.

    Derek Lowe is the first to admit that he had a mechanical flaw in his delivery that not only affected his ball movement, but also tipped his pitches. (He says he was flying open, allowing hitters to see the ball, which is why they were able to square up on pitches.) That’s one of the things many people forget about Lowe – he is an extremely hard worker. First to arrive in workouts, last to leave. During this past spring training, I heard the local sports radio guys interviewing Tommy Hanson one morning. They asked him why he was at the park so early. He pointed to Lowe running the stadium steps and said, “I’m not early, Derek’s early. He’s already worked up a sweat. I gotta get going.” And once the season ended, Lowe spent numerous hours watching video of his starts analyzing his mechanical problems. To me, that not only makes him a valuable performer, but maybe an even more valuable veteran leader.

    Sure I’d like to shed the $15MM contract, but I truly expect him to have a rebound next season and put together a very good year. And what better place than in Atlanta?

    Realistically, he won’t be traded without the Braves eating a portion of the contract. Once you do that, you severely lessen the salary relief you’d realize from the trade anyway. So why do it?

    IMO, I believe if and when a trade is made, it’ll be KK. He is the most likely match for what will be available. The mythical elite RH bopping LF isn’t out there for trade, folks. If he is available, it’s because his offense is declining, he can’t play defense anymore, or he has an albatross of a contract himself. He isn’t of the elite ilk. Nelson Cruz? Nice dream, but why would any team trade a young building block for anything less than a king’s ransom?

    I read all of the trade “proposals” across the street. I see all of the names that are thrown out as good matches to join the Braves. The problem is, most of them do not take into account the other team. Why would the Yanks trade Nick Swisher? Why would Texas trade Cruz? Why would any team trade an elite hitter?

    No… our best hope in trade is a guy like Jermaine Dye, who suddenly doesn’t have a position anymore, or a guy like Corey Hart, who hasn’t repeated that one good season. And you don’t trade Derek Lowe for that guy. You might trade KK for him, though.


  172. 184 Voice of Raisins October 29, 2009 at 8:32 am

    Here’s another odd part of the whole thing… you’re talking about our #4 or #5 starter.

    Again IMO, 1-3 in no particular order is JV, TommyH and JJ, with Huddy coming in at 4 ahead of KK and Lowe. Any improvement from Lowe only makes him your #4 guy at best.

    Amazing to think that we could have Derek Lowe and Tim Hudson as the back end of the rotation.

    Could we get 15 from wins from each of our starters? It’s certainly conceivable if Lowe remains…


  173. 185 Voice of Raisins October 29, 2009 at 8:45 am

    MLBTR is probably gonna have the Braves Offseason Outlook on their site pretty soon, maybe even today. They seem to be doing all of the teams in reverse order of the final 2009 standings, and the Braves ought to be coming up. Tim Dierkes is a pretty sharp guy; it’ll be interesting to see his take on the Braves hot stove prospects.

    I know from other things I’ve read from him that he does NOT expect the Braves to bring back LaRoche. He also looks at guys like Josh Willingham, Jorge Cantu and Jake Fox as possible RH hitters.

    I’ll post the link after it is up.


  174. 186 Voice of Raisins October 29, 2009 at 9:30 am

    And Ryan Ludwick’s name is being mentioned again…


    That is a name I’d like to hear tied to the Braves again.


  175. 187 Voice of Raisins October 29, 2009 at 10:09 am

    In the Chicago Sun-Times, Ozzie Guillen explains why he agreed to work the FOX WS broadcast as an analyst:

    I want to prove that I’m not the guy they see curse or be mad at the players or be mad at something,” Guillen said. “I have a little knowledge. I know about the game. And I want to show people another way to look at Ozzie Guillen. It might be the last time I do it, but at least I can say I did it. I’m having fun. It’s not easy. The perception of myself, I only care about what the media in Chicago feel about me. The national media? They can kiss my a**.

    Yep… that’s one way to try to change those perceptions… 😆


  176. 188 Voice of Raisins October 29, 2009 at 10:27 am

    AP: Stimulus jobs created overstated by thousands

    By The Associated Press

    WASHINGTON – An early progress report on President Barack Obama’s economic recovery plan overstates by thousands the number of jobs created or saved through the stimulus program, a mistake that White House officials promise will be corrected in future reports.

    The government’s first accounting of jobs tied to the $787 billion stimulus program claimed more than 30,000 positions paid for with recovery money. But that figure is overstated by least 5,000 jobs, according to an Associated Press review of a sample of stimulus contracts.

    The AP review found some counts were more than 10 times as high as the actual number of jobs; some jobs credited to the stimulus program were counted two and sometimes more than four times; and other jobs were credited to stimulus spending when none was produced.

    Big surprise here. This administration is a propaganda machine. They operate under the philosophy that perception becomes truth if it is repeated enough times. This is just the tip of the iceberg, folks…


  177. 189 Voice of Raisins October 29, 2009 at 10:40 am

    A stat-head look at the Braves starting rotation outlook for 2010:



  178. 190 Carolina Lady October 29, 2009 at 11:03 am

    “$787 billion stimulus program claimed more than 30,000 positions paid for with recovery money”

    Spend that much money for those few jobs?? Must be some HIGH salaries!!

    That bunch in the White House wouldn’t know the truth if it hit them in the fanny!

    And Rahm Emanual will have custody of the 2010 census?

    Explain to me how a new administration can come into office and immediately hijack the entire government???

    Band of thieves.

    Saw a photo in the news this morning of O standing rigidly at attention, saluting, as KIAs were being unloaded from an a/c at Andrews AFB. Wonder who was assigned the task of instructing him on things like ‘attention’ and ‘salute’? Photo op. which is sickening because of his USE of those in those caskets.


  179. 191 Voice of Raisins October 29, 2009 at 12:03 pm

    I’m sure that out of the view of the lens was a teleprompter with a picture of the correct posture.


  180. 192 Voice of Raisins October 29, 2009 at 12:14 pm

    Hmmm… interesting.

    Baseball America’s Matt Eddy reports that the Royals signed indy league 1B Reynaldo Rodriguez. The 22-year-old has been playing in the Colombian leagues.

    Earlier in the month, Baseball America named Rodriguez the best independent league prospect around.

    Wonder why they’d do that with young and promising 1B slugger Billy Butler under team control for a number of years?



  181. 193 Salty October 29, 2009 at 1:01 pm

    “$787 billion stimulus program claimed more than 30,000 positions paid for with recovery money”

    Spend that much money for those few jobs?? Must be some HIGH salaries!!

    Very simple ‘splanation…this was all pre-pay czar …and their salaries were grandfathered! 😯 Besides, they were gov’t-given jobs, not bail-outs! 🙄


  182. 194 Salty October 29, 2009 at 1:04 pm

    Saw a photo in the news this morning of O standing rigidly at attention, saluting, as KIAs were being unloaded from an a/c at Andrews AFB.

    I’ll cut him a tad of slack on this one; it’s singularly the most sobering thing he can do when deciding a course of action. Every one of those soldiers’ families wants to know the cause is just, and that takes two forms:
    1.) These are amongst the last soldiers to sacrifice for an unworthy cause or
    2.) No soldier will sacrifice without the US bringing its full capabilities to bear; i.e., in Gil’s words, you either fight to win, without prejudice, or you don’t fight at all.

    So, which card gets laid down? I sure as hell want to know!


  183. 195 Salty October 29, 2009 at 1:11 pm

    Sorry for the ‘potty mouth’…week two at Ft. Benning is coming to a close for the eldest. He’s written more in two weeks than in his lifetime! 😆

    He has interesting comments: there are some who clearly don’t want to be there (so why are they?), and others who couldn’t keep their mouths’ shut or stand straight if their lives depended on it! I believe they’re all the same group! 😆 He’s still excited to be there…wishes the drill sergeants would have some ‘cohesion’ (his word) when it comes to instructing…seems conflicting styles are presented. Says we’ll have to slow him down at the dinner table…remind him he can take more than three minutes to eat (he always took at least four! 😯 )! Also…and I don’t believe this one, yet…he thinks he probably couldn’t sleep past five if he was allowed to. I’ll take him at his word on that count…will be proven soon enough at Christmas. They actually get to come home for two-plus weeks…if everyone behaves! Again…we’ll see.


  184. 196 Salty October 29, 2009 at 1:14 pm

    Last blog-ination post: If Pearl Harbor happened today, would a declaration of war happen within 24 hours…or longer? Which network outlet would pin the blame (via unnamed sources) that the attack is justified due to “US blah blah blah”?

    Or…am I being overly cynical?


  185. 197 Salty October 29, 2009 at 1:15 pm

    Well…my monthly quota’s been fulfilled! 😆


  186. 198 Carolina Lady October 29, 2009 at 1:41 pm

    Raisins: “I’m sure that out of the view of the lens was a teleprompter with a picture of the correct posture” 😆 😆

    Salty, LOVE hearing the reports from your young soldier!! Please update regularly!!!

    And I agree with your 1:14 – how many fools would be demonstrating in the streets? How many of them would CNN be interviewing?


  187. 199 Carolina Lady October 29, 2009 at 1:44 pm

    Salty, I think what I take most resentment about with the O saluting photo is that he’s never bothered until now – when he’s about to send more troops to Afghanistan. For political purposes only. He doesn’t give a flip for the military. Knows nothing about it. He knows one thing: politics. Chicago-style which translates into the MOST corrupt of corrupt politics.

    Just my opinion –


  188. 200 Voice of Raisins October 29, 2009 at 2:50 pm

    Salty, I am proud of your eldest, and proud of his family.


  189. 201 Carolina Lady October 29, 2009 at 2:57 pm

    from email:

    Being a veterinarian, I had been called to examine a ten-year-old Irish Wolfhound named Belker. The dog’s owners, Ron, his wife, Lisa, and their little boy, Shane, were all very attached to Belker, and they were hoping for a miracle.

    I examined Belker and found he was dying of cancer. I told the family we
    couldn’t do anything for Belker, and offered to perform the euthanasia
    procedure for the old dog in their home.

    As we made arrangements, Ron and Lisa told me they thought it would be good for six-year-old Shane to observe the procedure. They felt as though
    Shane might learn something from the experience.

    The next day, I felt the familiar catch in my throat as Belker’s family surrounded him. Shane seemed so calm, petting the old dog for the last time, that I wondered if he understood what was going on. within a few minutes, Belker slipped peacefully away.

    The little boy seemed to accept Belker’s transition without any difficulty or confusion. We sat together for a while after Belker’s death, wondering aloud about the sad fact that animal lives are shorter than human lives. Shane, who had been listening quietly, piped up, “I know why.”

    Startled, we all turned to him. What came out of his mouth next stunned me. I’d never heard a more comforting explanation.

    He said, “People are born so that they can learn how to live a good life — like loving everybody all the time and being nice, right?” The six-year-old continued, “Well, dogs already know how to do that, so they don’t have to stay as long.”

    Remember, if a dog was the teacher you would learn things like:

    When loved ones come home, always run to greet them.

    Never pass up the opportunity to go for a joyride.

    Allow the experience of fresh air and the wind in your face to be pure

    Take naps.

    Stretch before rising.

    Run, romp, and play daily.

    Thrive on attention and let people touch you.

    Avoid biting when a simple growl will do.

    On warm days, stop to lie on your back on the grass.

    On hot days, drink lots of water and lie under a shady tree.

    When you’re happy, dance around and wag your entire body.

    Delight in the simple joy of a long walk.

    Be loyal.

    Never pretend to be something you’re not.

    If what you want lies buried, dig until you find it.

    When someone is having a bad day, be silent, sit close by and nuzzle them gently.


  190. 202 Voice of Raisins October 29, 2009 at 3:08 pm

    Why is Mike Cameron’s name never brought up as a possible FA acquisition?

    I know he’s 37, but he knocked 24 HR’s and drove in 70 in Milwaukee last season. He bats RH, and is still one of the best CF’s around. And he still steals bases. He might could teach a few of our youngsters how that’s done. N8 could move to LF, where he’ll be when Schafer arrives anyway.

    And he’s a great clubhouse guy and would fit in very well with a Bobby Cox run team.

    Being a FA (type B, I think), he would cost nothing more than 1 draft pick.

    He’s from LaGrange, GA and might not mind winding down his career close to home. He could likely be had on a 1 year deal for around $8MM or so.

    Imagine if we had gotten Cameron’s numbers out of GA last year. There’s a little perspective, huh?

    If you could get him for $7-8MM, and resign Adam for about the same, you get a tandem 40+ HR’s and 140+ RBI and fill your OF and 1B needs.

    And let’s be realistic… you ain’t gonna get a 40 HR bopper in this year’s FA or trade markets. Guys like Jermaine Dye might give you a few more HR’s and RBI, but they’ll kill you defensively.


  191. 203 Voice of Raisins October 29, 2009 at 3:29 pm

    CL, the “vet” piece was priceless. It really made me stop and give thought.

    And now I am taking a break from my work, walking downstairs from my office and spending a few minutes with my own dog.

    Thanks. 😀


  192. 204 Gil in Mechanicsville October 29, 2009 at 3:57 pm

    Greetings all, Salty, remind your young lad it’s nothing personal, it is all designed to see if you can withstand the stress… The idea of obeying an order without question is pretty important when you are under fire and most commanders don’t have time to explain their actions, no matter how inane they are at the time. There is a method to their madness.

    As for Obama’s photo op, I am offended too. If he really wants to show his support, he will either get the troops out of harms way or give them what they need. At least dubya had the decency to not use visits with the wounded as photo ops. In fact he was pretty adamant about the press not being present.

    I also believe it is a breech of protocol to salute while not in a uniform. At least beyond the hand over the heart salute. But hey, I won’t make a bid deal out of it when there are so many other more important issues to be addressed.

    Now baseball…. Yep, Raisins said….

    I’ll bet there are some pretty good undiscovered talent that folks will be clamoring about next season, (they don’t know who yet) wondering why the Braves don’t have them or didn’t make a trade for them. Like the man said, keep your nose in your own bag…. It is why a good scouting department is so important….


  193. 205 Carolina Lady October 29, 2009 at 5:54 pm

    Raisins, I was very touched by that message. Shane sure had it right!

    (You’re welcome!) 🙂


  194. 206 Gil in Mechanicsville October 30, 2009 at 8:02 am

    Well, Pedro looked pretty good but the Yankees evened up the series last night. Phillies still look dangerous to me.

    The Hokies have gone from National Championship contenders to pretenders to wait until next year in the course of a few short weeks… It’s why I never bet on sports…. Nor get to caught up in the hype. I can wish and hope but have just had my heart broken too many times to give it all up for a bunch of strangers.

    Mom has been in the hospital since Monday, to be honest, when Jo and I went to meet her when they brought he in to the ER Monday morning, I would have sworn she would not see Tuesday. She was hardly arouse-able and was diagnosed as having bilateral pneumonia. Well, she has bounced back and is now well enough to actually be sick. The doctor said he is going to keep her in the hospital until at least Monday.


  195. 207 Carolina Lady October 30, 2009 at 12:11 pm

    Really glad she’s improving, Gil!


    7 lies in under 2 minutes:


  196. 208 Voice of Raisins October 30, 2009 at 2:06 pm

    As promised, the Braves “Offseason Outlook” is here:



  197. 209 Voice of Raisins October 30, 2009 at 2:07 pm

    Important part of this analysis:

    The Braves have about $81MM committed before arbitration raises to Johnson, Diaz, Church, Moylan, and Logan. Johnson and Logan are potential trade/non-tender candidates. Regardless, the Braves should fall under $90MM (and that includes an estimated $9MM for Hudson). According to Cot’s Baseball Contracts, the Braves began 2009 with a $96.7MM payroll. Ultimately I can see Braves GM Frank Wren having close to $15MM to spend without raising payroll.


  198. 210 Voice of Raisins October 30, 2009 at 2:41 pm

    According to Mark Bowman:

    GM Frank Wren, Bobby Cox and some of the club’s other execs are currently holding meeting in Sea Island…

    One can only assume, then, that the Hudson matter is done, and that they are merely waiting for the completion of the WS to make the announcement. Could this little pow-wow be a strategy session to determine the next course of action now that Huddy’s status is resolved?


  199. 211 Carolina Lady October 30, 2009 at 2:41 pm

    That’s sound hopeful, Raisins!


  200. 212 flbravesgirl October 30, 2009 at 11:19 pm

    That sounds promising, VOR. 15 mil of spending money would be very helpful.

    Getting up at 5 am to head for Tiger. I’ll be back next Sun. Will check in as long as the laptop behaves. Have a fun Halloween!


  201. 213 Salty October 31, 2009 at 11:37 am

    All…appreciate the sentiments for the ‘young soldier’…am proud of him, too. Makes you feel you’ve done something right as a parent! And Gil, yes, he knows it’s not personal whatsoever…not that the thought doesn’t creep into the mind when you’re on a diet of 4-hour/night sleep sessions. Part of creating the new mold, I suppose.

    VaTech…that’s a stunner…didn’t expect that. Being a Clemson fan, I really appreciate a good field entry and am much into the ‘running down the hill’. That said, if a football player isn’t ready to play after the ‘Enter Sandman’ frenzy the crowd feasts on prior to the team hitting the field, they have no pulse! Gives me goose bumps…really, REALLY quite the atmosphere. If any B&S-er hasn’t seen it, try to catch it. Actually, courtesy of you-tube:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5h1EW5z1wdc&feature=PlayList&p=95FACD28D0C0C42A&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL&index=1


  202. 214 Carolina Lady October 31, 2009 at 2:09 pm

    Pirates Demand $7M, Cast Themselves as Environmental Protectors
    Saturday, October 31, 2009

    Times of London

    MOGADISHU, Somalia — Somali pirates who are demanding $7 million in ransom for a British sailing couple said Saturday that boats from other countries are plundering Somalia’s fish-rich waters.

    Ahmed Gadaf, who described himself as a spokesman for the pirates, said Western fishing vessels “harass” local fishermen and destroy their nets. Gadaf spoke to The Associated Press by satellite phone.

    So – this 38′ boat sailing in international waters damaged their ‘environment’ how? And the $7m ransom is for what? and goes to who?

    They might wanta try Plan B.

    Or is Al Gore their advisor now –


  203. 215 Gil in Mechanicsville October 31, 2009 at 3:23 pm

    Afternoon all, watching the barnburner between Florida State and NC State this afternoon… whew..


  204. 216 Carolina Lady October 31, 2009 at 3:24 pm

    Why are they burning their barns, Gil?? 😯


  205. 217 Carolina Lady October 31, 2009 at 3:44 pm

    😯 😯 😯 😯 😯 😯

    Ten million guesses and you’d never guess what I have in my hand.

    A baseball – with some writing on it – that says –

    Greg Maddux, Jeff Blauser, Tom Glavine, Chipper Jones, Keith Lockhart, Mark Lemke, Ken Lofton, Bob Cox, Rafael Belliard, Ryan Klesko, Denny Nagle, Fred McGriff, John Smoltz, Mark Wohlers, Mike (can’t read), Andres Gallarhga (I think), and some others that are simply unreadable.

    Found it sitting on my desk when I returned from errands earlier. Saw it sitting there but didn’t pay it any mind – got baseballs all over the place. From my brother for a BELATED birthday “I’m-sorry-I-forgot-but-happy-birthday-anyway” present.

    I’ve got to look up this team and see if I can make out any other signatures….

    Holy. Cow.


  206. 218 berigan2electricboogaloo October 31, 2009 at 4:01 pm

    Wow CL! Cool! 🙂 Sell it on ebay, make a fortune! 😛


  207. 219 Carolina Lady October 31, 2009 at 4:08 pm

    1997 team! Have made out a few more names.

    Man, this IS cool, isn’t it, Ber???

    Can you say ‘sister-is-speechless’??

    I guess this means I can’t pick on him anymore, huh? 😆


  208. 220 Carolina Lady October 31, 2009 at 4:11 pm

    You want to talk about a really cool baseball is one a friend’s wife inherited. Signed by somebody named Babe Ruth.

    I nearly ruined their new carpet drooling over it….


  209. 221 berigan2electricboogaloo October 31, 2009 at 4:57 pm

    CL, could you imagine having one signed by the Babe????
    My Grandmother(Dad’s Mom) lived in an apartment in St. Louis in the 20’s and was acquaintances of guys like Rogers Hornsby and other members of the gashouse gang! She had a couple of old baseballs that you could tell had been signed, but you couldn’t make out any names! 😦

    Might have put me thru college, or better yet, in a ’56 Chevy Convertible if we could have made out the names! 😉


  210. 222 Carolina Lady October 31, 2009 at 7:20 pm

    I’m thinking this thing may be ‘stamped.’ One signature looks a little too perfect, to me. There is an almost-microscopic circular emblem that IS stamped on it that says ‘National League Championship Series 1997 and has the MLB ‘batter’ in the center.

    Brother paid $5 for it at a yard sale, sold by an old lady. Before selling it, she called her daughter and wanted to know if $5 was OK.

    Now. Do either one of them know anything about it?? No. Is the daughter by chance going through a divorce or something?

    Intriguing, anyway. It’s interesting just to see all the names. Some I had completely forgotten.


  211. 223 Gil in Mechanicsville October 31, 2009 at 10:12 pm

    Hey, beauty is in the eye of the beholder… And you be holding that baseball… real enough…. 🙂


  212. 224 Voice of Raisins November 1, 2009 at 4:09 pm

    Mr. O’Brien talks about the remaining Braves AFL’ers…



  213. 226 flbravesgirl November 2, 2009 at 12:56 am

    Hi, kids! Made it safely to Tiger (where it’s cool. I love it). Had family come in today so yesterday was taken up by the drive, unpacking, cleaning, groceries & cooking. Whew! I think we’re going to the apple orchard around the corner tomorrow. There is an apple crisp & a Gooey Apple Cake in our future. There’s also a lot of painting & putting up moulding in our future.

    Some leaves have fallen but most of our trees are gorgeous. The sunset made Black Rock Mt. & Screamer Mt. look like they were on fire, there’s so many red trees on them.


  214. 227 Gil in Mechanicsville November 2, 2009 at 8:41 am

    And apple turnovers…don’t forget the turnovers…. YUM!!!

    Josie has gone to the hospital this morning to check on whether Mom will be released today or not. I am hoping they will keep her a while longer. There should be another way for the government to set up alternatives to giving out flu shots besides the President declaring an “Emergency”… All it did was cause a panic and people trying to game the system… Seen it before…

    And baseball, for want of a closer… anyone else think the Phillies will be at the front of the line vying for the services of either Soriano or Gonzo when one or both leave the Braves? As soon as Dammon got on base last night I knew the Phils were toast…

    And the race yesterday…. Boring….


  215. 228 berigan2electricboogaloo November 2, 2009 at 10:15 am

    FLB said….Hi, kids!

    Hi Kids??? Only one kid here, and you are it! 😉
    Man, apple orchard. It’s been a long time since I was at one of those. What do they charge??? Apples are about $1.50 for the red delicious I love…that just seems crazy to me…


  216. 229 berigan2electricboogaloo November 2, 2009 at 10:22 am

    Gil, glad your Mom has made such a quick recovery!
    Man, was that game painful, or what??? Felt like watching the braves in the playoffs. 1st and 2nd no outs, and after two pop ups in a row, CC got the final out, no runs.
    I LOVED the homer by Chase that made it 4-3, then the Pedro Feliz homer off of Joba that tied the game, after Joba looked absolutely unhittable.

    And Lidge looked great for a moment there. Jeter looked overmatched. But, the Yankees have too many weapons. Sigh…NL can’t win the All star game. Yankees will win at least one of the next 3 games. I will continue to hear, the NL is a AAAA league. No, the Yankees are a team with a huge budget, far more than anyone else has, and they are playing up to that potential.

    Damn Yankees! 😕


  217. 230 Gil in Mechanicsville November 2, 2009 at 10:55 am

    Mom is still pretty ill but not so sick as to warrant continued hospitalization. The doctor said to expect her to be in and out of the hospital for a while. She still has pneumonia but well… you know….

    I guess we will just take it one day at a time now.

    Mom had Granny Smith apple trees in her front yard. Luckily the apple tree did not provide the type of switch Mom preferred so they were spared the same fate as the peach trees… I can remember many pies and Lord knows the gallons of apple sauce those trees yielded.

    I kid you not… 🙂


  218. 231 berigan2electricboogaloo November 2, 2009 at 10:59 am

    You kid me not??? Ok, ok there Mr. Paar! 🙂


  219. 232 Carolina Lady November 2, 2009 at 1:31 pm

    😆 And how many people reading will go – “Paar? Whozat??”


  220. 233 Voice of Raisins November 2, 2009 at 1:52 pm

    This one flew under the radar… from the Boston Globe:

    Dave Wallace, former Red Sox pitching coach – Wallace had been Seattle’s minor league pitching coordinator and left last week to take a similar position with Atlanta. He turned down an opportunity to talk with the Marlins about their major league pitching coach job. “I thought it was a great opportunity to work with great people like Frank Wrenn, John Schuerholz, and Bobby Cox, all of whom I’ve admired for so long,” said Wallace.

    How’d that go unreported around here? Or did it, and I just missed it?


  221. 234 Carolina Lady November 2, 2009 at 1:58 pm

    That one got by all of us, Raisins. Interesting, huh?


  222. 235 Gil in Mechanicsville November 2, 2009 at 2:16 pm

    Hey.. Consider it reported… You just did…


  223. 236 berigan2electricboogaloo November 2, 2009 at 11:47 pm

    Scoop Raisins they call him! 😉

    Wow! Anyone watching game 5??? Chase Utley has 2 more homers, 5 for the series!!!! I’d love to see him get the 6th in NYC.


  224. 237 flbravesgirl November 2, 2009 at 11:55 pm

    Hmmm. How did Ber post at 11:47 tonight when it’s 10:55? Time macine?


  225. 238 flbravesgirl November 2, 2009 at 11:58 pm

    Apple house was closed. I’m afraid we may have missed them for the season.


  226. 239 berigan2electricboogaloo November 3, 2009 at 12:26 am

    Yep…I have seen the very recent future…the Phils win…I sure hope!


  227. 240 Gil in Mechanicsville November 3, 2009 at 12:31 am

    Hey cool Ber… Got the winning lottery numbers????


  228. 241 Gil in Mechanicsville November 3, 2009 at 12:33 am

    I guess WordPress is still on Chinese Savings time…


  229. 242 Gil in Mechanicsville November 3, 2009 at 12:34 am

    That is one shaky bullpen in Philly however.

    Whew, eked out another squeaker.


  230. 243 berigan2electricboogaloo November 3, 2009 at 12:35 am

    Gil, I will have those numbers at 10 PM tomorrow! 😉

    Chinese savings time??? Did they buy time as well??? 😛


  231. 244 Gil in Mechanicsville November 3, 2009 at 12:48 am

    “Here’s what I don’t get in baseball,” Wuhl said. “You have a Korean pitcher, a Dominican catcher, a first baseman from French Canada and a third baseman from Mississippi, and they can’t understand each other already. Then they cover their mouths with their gloves. Then the catcher puts down one finger for fastball. What was that all about?”

    On all the visits to the mound by the Yankees’ catcher…


  232. 245 Voice of Raisins November 3, 2009 at 8:29 am

    According to Melissa Segura of SI.com:

    Add one more team to an already long list of suitors for Cuban lefthander Aroldis Chapman. The Atlanta Braves are the latest team seeking to meet with Chapman’s agent, two sources told SI.com.

    Though an exact date, time and location for a meeting have not been established, the two sides are expected to schedule formal conversations in the coming weeks.

    However, according to Frank Wren via Mark Bowman:

    Contrary to an SI.com report, the Braves are not currently in the mix for the 21-year-old left-handed pitcher.

    “We don’t have any plans to meet with him at this time,” Wren said via an email response on Monday night.

    I’ll believe Frank. I think he has more of an inside track on Braves information than some unknown reporter named after a cactus…


  233. 246 Voice of Raisins November 3, 2009 at 8:33 am

    More Bowman:

    With the strong possibility that Adam LaRoche, Mike Gonzalez and Rafael Soriano could all be lost via free agency, the Braves are currently in search of a first baseman and a closer. There’s also a chance that they’ll pursue an outfielder to guard against the possibility that they won’t deem Jason Heyward to be Major League-ready coming out of Spring Training next year.

    Assuming that Gonzalez and Soriano will get better offers to close elsewhere, the Braves are expected to continue to gauge the cost of signing veteran closer Billy Wagner, who posted a 1.72 ERA in the 17 appearances that he made after returning from Tommy John elbow reconstruction surgery in late August.


  234. 247 Voice of Raisins November 3, 2009 at 8:41 am

    Last Bowman:

    While there’s a chance that the market could put LaRoche in position where he could return to Atlanta with the one-year offer the Braves may be willing to provide, there seems to be a greater likelihood that the Braves will be finding next year’s first baseman via trade, free agency or the expanded list of non-tendered players that are expected to be available this year.

    I have to say, my gut tells me Adam won’t be back. With this year’s relatively thin 1B market, and given his very strong finish to 2009, he’ll get at least 2 if not 3 years guaranteed from somebody. (Mets?) I don’t think the Braves will go more than 1 year guaranteed with anybody. I just don’t. Not at the kind of $$$ Adam will command. And FreddieFree’s surge in the AFL isn’t doing anything to change my mind.

    Think Russell Branyan… that’s more likely. His 2nd half back injury will keep any team from offering him more than 1 year, and he popped 31 HR’s even with the injury. I foresee a 1 year deal at about $4-5MM with an option for 2011. Less $$$ and less years than Adam will command. Maybe more pop, and a strong first half, too.


  235. 248 Voice of Raisins November 3, 2009 at 8:43 am

    By the way, that’s 31 dingers in only 116 games…


  236. 249 Voice of Raisins November 3, 2009 at 8:54 am

    Here’s some good info on Branyan. Beware, though, of a bunch of stat-head info. Just step around it:



  237. 250 Gil in Mechanicsville November 3, 2009 at 9:08 am

    I still have a problem with bringing in Freeman and Heyward in tandem. You are just asking for trouble having two rookies starting at the same time. It is what you do when you are building for the future, not what you do when you are contending for the title. Has everyone given up on Schafer? Don’t hear too much clamoring for him anymore. I just think folks forget about how young some of these guys are. Mistakes made in the minors are often not repeated in the majors…

    Things like throwing to the wrong base, missing the cut-off man and being caught off base don’t happen to seasoned veterans. It is one of the reasons the Pirates are perennial losers. They don’t keep a team together long enough to gel.

    Goes to show what happens when something is run by committee…


  238. 251 Gil in Mechanicsville November 3, 2009 at 9:12 am

    Okay, off to do my duty as an American and vote for the scoundrel of my choice. I have sent money, worked the phones and sent e-mails… Now is the time to do the deed….


  239. 252 Gil in Mechanicsville November 3, 2009 at 9:14 am

    After all is said and done, we must remember that these folks are still politicians…


  240. 253 Voice of Raisins November 3, 2009 at 10:46 am

    Gil, they won’t all arrive at the same time.

    JHey will arrive in 2010 and FreddieFree will arrive in 2011.

    Schafer will be squeezed in there somewhere, but he’s now almost an afterthought after his forgettable 2009. I believe he’ll still be a very good ML’er, but what do I know? Plus, I also think we’ll see an OF signing or trade for 2010, so Schafer will most likely have a the whole 2010 season in AAA.

    I firmly believe JHey will be given every opportunity to win the RF job this spring though. Why else would they be so careful with him this fall? I understand he’s had relatively few AB’s above high A ball, but the kid by all accounts is advanced beyond his years.

    And don’t even compare it to rushing FrenchVanilla. Jeffrey was pressed into duty due to injury and a lack of OF’s not named Mondesi. JHey will flat out win the job.


  241. 254 berigan2electricboogaloo November 3, 2009 at 11:10 am

    Thanks for all the baseball info, Scoop! 😉
    Wagner…interesting. He’s old, which is a bit scary, but he looked very good for Boston. Now, is he a type A guy???? He may be because isn’t Soriano??? Something about not punishing guys who have been injured….


  242. 255 Voice of Raisins November 3, 2009 at 11:20 am

    Hi, Ber. Type A only matters if Boston offers him arb, which is not very likely.

    I saw someone somewhere else ask the question, “Why would you want an older guy coming off surgery as your closer.”

    I thought, what was Soriano? What was Gonzo? Both were fresh off surgery. And while maybe not as old as Wagner, also not as successful.

    Unfortunately, it’s not a great year for OF’s, 1B’s or closers. You gotta get what’s available.


  243. 256 Salty November 3, 2009 at 11:48 am

    Still think LaRoche is back…3 years guaranteed money doesn’t mean Adam’s hear for three years, but most likely for two. No sense having the best rotation in baseball if the defense can’t match it. There is a price to pay, one way or t’other.

    Closer could be Lowe…the combo of Soriano and Gonzo being, uh, gonzo is close to Lowe’s $$, so a wash. And, Moylan can close to, in the right match-ups. Still, if Wagner comes cheap, you might have to take a ‘sniff’.


  244. 257 Salty November 3, 2009 at 11:49 am

    Still think LaRoche is back…3 years guaranteed money doesn’t mean Adam’s here for three years, but most likely for two. No sense having the best rotation in baseball if the defense can’t match it. There is a price to pay, one way or t’other.

    Closer could be Lowe…the combo of Soriano and Gonzo being, uh, gonzo is close to Lowe’s $$, so a wash. And, Moylan can close to, in the right match-ups. Still, if Wagner comes cheap, you might have to take a ‘sniff’. If perchance Lowe or KK are traded, then Gonzo or Soriano stays.

    I think I just posted a circular argument. 🙄


  245. 258 Salty November 3, 2009 at 11:51 am

    Sorry ’bout that…tried to catch a spellin’ error…and wound up with double vision instead.


  246. 259 berigan2electricboogaloo November 3, 2009 at 11:52 am

    V, it’s interesting about Wagner. He’ll be 39 in July. He made 10 Mil last year. How much of a cut is he willing to take???
    A lot of people(Ok, Red Sox fans at least) seem to think
    Papelbon will be traded. IF that happens, do we want him?? Would they rather risk Wagner as a closer, and slowly move Josh Bard of the easy 100 MPH heat in the role???
    They had about 20 good starters at the beginning of last year, and ended up counting on Paul Byrd at the end of the season.
    The Sox got knocked out of the playoffs early. And are watching their hated rivals play in the W.S. with a very good chance of winning it.
    “They” are not going to play it safe this offseason. The Sox didn’t get C.C., A.J, or Tex, and it cost them. They have money to burn. Giving Wagner 8-10 Mil would not be a big deal.
    Not saying “they” will….but they could….veeery interesting offseason, says I.


  247. 260 Voice of Raisins November 3, 2009 at 12:06 pm

    Still, if Wagner comes cheap, you might have to take a ’sniff’.


    Wagner’s $10MM was the last year of a the multi he signed in his prime. Coming off of his surgery, he’ll be lucky to get half of that, and surely won’t get more than 1 year guaranteed… maybe a 2nd year option.

    As Salty said, I think they’ll at least give it a “sniff”. If it looks like it’ll be too pricey, they’ll move on.

    There is some chatter about the Pirates’ Matt Capps, but he looked kinda like Matt Crapps toward the end of last season. But then again, I’d probably lose my edge, too, on the team of perpetual rebuilding. Might be interesting. Maybe they’ll take JoJo off our hands. He looked halfway decent at AAA after looking like crap early. Maybe half-crap for half-crap, huh?

    My gut still sees Adam in those hideous orange and blue unis.


  248. 262 Voice of Raisins November 3, 2009 at 12:57 pm


    Joba’s mom facing time for selling meth.



  249. 263 Carolina Lady November 3, 2009 at 1:53 pm

    Man! That is tough! Son has to be making some nice $$$ and Mom is selling dope? Maybe she’s an addict and he knows better than to support her habit. What a sad story.


  250. 264 Voice of Raisins November 3, 2009 at 1:55 pm

    HILTON HEAD ISLAND, S.C. — An Atlanta couple missing for more than a year and a half has been officially declared dead…


    As I recall, our own SG was acquainted with this couple. SG, if you should wander in, I am very sorry my friend…


  251. 265 Voice of Raisins November 3, 2009 at 5:05 pm

    Rays working on Iwamura deal to Pirates

    … they are on the verge of completing a trade of 2B Akinori Iwamura. The team the Rays are dealing Iwamura to is the Pirates. Expect an official announcement tonight, when it will be Wednesday morning in Japan and the Rays can talk to Aki.


    Dang! 😡

    I had KJ and JoJo going there for Matt Capps. 😀


  252. 266 Gil in Mechanicsville November 3, 2009 at 5:38 pm

    Salty, I would not fret over a typo or a spelling error, from what I can tell, the word police left these parts some time ago…


  253. 267 Salty November 3, 2009 at 8:06 pm

    Interesting article…rather challenges the ‘Evil West’ mantra!

    Gil…fretting over a typo is par for a retentive, sanctimonious type! 😆 It’s my mom, constantly calling from beyond…if you do it, do it right. Maybe it was my grandfather (both of ’em), too…and 1st grade teacher, and…

    Hey, lots of influences in my life! I like ’em! :mrgreen:


  254. 268 Carolina Lady November 4, 2009 at 1:36 pm

    “The most popular destination was the United States, where nearly a quarter of the 700 million — around 165 million people — said they would like to settle.”

    I think Tony Blair said something to the effect of – the measure of a nation is the number of people who want to go live there.

    True. If this nation is so ‘evil’, why do so many want to come here?

    Interesting article, Salty.

    Switching horses – I’m very pleased with the election results. It has been ‘entertaining’ listening to all the White House ‘spins’ on it. Especially the “this is no reflection on the President”.


  255. 269 Voice of Raisins November 4, 2009 at 3:24 pm

    Pitcher Scott Proctor signs with Atlanta Braves

    Proctor has reached an agreement with the Atlanta Braves on a one-year contract for the 2010 season, according to Proctor’s agent Mark Rodgers.

    Proctor was released by the Florida Marlins in October after missing the entire 2009 season because of Tommy John surgery on his right elbow.

    “The Braves were very aggressive in their pursuit of Scott,” Rodgers said Wednesday “They made it clear from the day the Marlins’ released Scott that they had a strong interest in signing him to help improve their bullpen. It was obvious to me that the Braves appreciate Scott’s track record with the Yankees and Dodgers. I am confident that Atlanta’s needs in the bullpen best matched up with Scott’s abilities.”

    Rodgers explained that Proctor’s deal with Atlanta was a “split contract.” That means Proctor will sign a minor league contract that includes both a minor league salary and a major league salary. Terms of the contract were not released by Rodgers. However, Rodgers did say that it is a deal similar to what Proctor had with Florida Marlins for 2009 — that was a one-year contract worth $750,000 that included $250,000 in incentives. Rodgers said it has a base salary with the chance to earn bonuses based on Proctor’s performance at the major league level.

    “The Braves fully understand that Scott is still rehabilitating from Tommy John surgery. We were looking for a club that would not rush his recovery. The Braves are that team. We are on the same page with Atlanta; they will be patient with Scott and let the recovery process proceed naturally. For the Braves and Scott that is a win-win situation, a patient approach for a full and successful comeback.”

    Proctor, 32, appeared in 83 games with the Yankees in 2006 and 83 more for the Yankees and Dodgers combined in 2007. In five seasons, he has appeared in 262 games, pitched 297 innings and has a 4.42 ERA.



  256. 270 Voice of Raisins November 4, 2009 at 3:25 pm

    According to Tim Dierkes of MLBTR: Proctor would “have to spend all but about 21 days on the 25-man to qualify as a free agent after 2010.” He’ll probably need all of April in the minors, meaning the Braves could retain Proctor for 2011 as an arbitration-eligible player if he has a successful ’09 campaign.

    Nice low risk move by Frankie…


  257. 271 Voice of Raisins November 4, 2009 at 3:30 pm

    According to Derrick Goold of the St. Louis Post-Dispatch, the Cardinals released righty Brad Thompson today. The arbitration-eligible Thompson would’ve been a likely non-tender in mid-December anyway.

    Thompson, 28 in January, posted a 4.84 ERA in 80 innings this year (eight starts, 24 relief appearances). He’s typically shown strong control and home run prevention but a weak strikeout rate. His best asset is his ability to get groundballs – 52.7% of the time this year. If Thompson has a successful ’10 season for his new club, that team could elect to retain him for ’11 as an arbitration-eligible player.

    Wouldn’t be surprised to see Frank in in this guy as well…


  258. 273 Gil in Mechanicsville November 4, 2009 at 4:49 pm

    I wonder how many people fainted at that soiree…


  259. 274 Gil in Mechanicsville November 4, 2009 at 4:53 pm

    And yes… The Deeds was done…. HAHAHAHA…..

    Nice to be on the winning side again and not have to hold my nose while voting for the lesser of two evils…

    Told you folks about McDonnell last year so it should not be a surprise. Really good guy and competent… Very rare in a politician.


  260. 276 Gil in Mechanicsville November 4, 2009 at 6:01 pm

    Anyone else remember how we all tried to figure out how the Braves could pry either Nady or Swisher from the Yankees?

    Since we are not privy to exactly how much money the Braves have to spend, we can only hope they will not be too chintzy and throw away a chance to take advantage of one of the best pitching staffs since the Braves of the ’90s


  261. 277 Carolina Lady November 4, 2009 at 6:57 pm

    Congrats, Gil! Y’all done GOOD! And I’m proud of y’all for getting involved in the campaign.


  262. 278 Gil in Mechanicsville November 4, 2009 at 8:56 pm

    Now we need to come up with someone to run against Jim Webb for Senate next year…


  263. 279 Gil in Mechanicsville November 4, 2009 at 10:07 pm

    Well, looks like Huddy is signed and seal to return. Just waiting for the yanks to put the final nail in the Phils’ coffin. 7-1 in the 6th… They ain’t coming back…


  264. 280 Carolina Lady November 4, 2009 at 11:23 pm

    I think Senator Gil has a nice ring to it! Huh? Think about it??


  265. 281 Gil in Mechanicsville November 5, 2009 at 5:21 am

    Thanks CL but I know better than to get too deep into politics. I still have my soul and my sanity. It is much easier to bark at the cars as they go by than it is to actually catch them… 🙂


  266. 282 Voice of Raisins November 5, 2009 at 9:43 am

    Has anybody lit the stove yet?


  267. 283 berigan2electricboogaloo November 5, 2009 at 9:51 am

    Gil, one of the reasons we are in the mess we are in, is because good men like you don’t run for office! In fact, It’s all your fault! 😉

    Seriously though…we need more good men and women to make that sacrifice, but I don’t know how we go about that…


  268. 284 berigan2electricboogaloo November 5, 2009 at 9:55 am

    Man, I thought for sure the Phightin’ Phils would put up more of a fight than that. Of course, relying on the 2009 version of Pedro in a must win game, in Yankee stadium, what chance did they really have???
    They reminded me a bit of the Braves all those years they had great teams, but couldn’t get over the hump. At least they won it all last year.
    V, lets get that hot stove crankin’! It’s a bit cold this morning here, anywho.


  269. 285 Voice of Raisins November 5, 2009 at 10:41 am

    Approximately 107 days until pitchers and catchers report.

    (Braves have not yet announced their 2010 spring dates…)


  270. 287 Voice of Raisins November 5, 2009 at 11:27 am

    While not yet formally announced, the Huddy deal is done:



  271. 288 berigan2electricboogaloo November 5, 2009 at 11:56 am

    Ahhh, getting a bit warmer~! 🙂


  272. 289 Gil in Mechanicsville November 5, 2009 at 2:37 pm

    Given what the Royals accepted for Mark Teahen, one would think that Kelly Johnson would have some value…

    Good signing for the Braves in Huddy. Trade either Lowe or Vazquez and suddenly there is money available for signing LaRoche. Just saying….


  273. 290 Gil in Mechanicsville November 5, 2009 at 2:38 pm

    I know the Braves don’t like trading within the division but who couldn’t use the services of either of those two guys? I think the Braves may be in the catbird seat on this one…


  274. 291 Gil in Mechanicsville November 5, 2009 at 2:42 pm

    Ber… I may be the only guy that a large cigarette company ever tried to get fired from my job with Chesterfield County for being an obstructionist. Unfortunately for them, I did not work for the county. That one really cost them big time….

    There is a certain freedom involved when no one owns you… 🙂

    Know the truth for it shall set you free… 🙂


  275. 292 Gil in Mechanicsville November 5, 2009 at 2:43 pm

    Okay, enough blog domination for one afternoon… Time for a nap..


  276. 293 berigan2electricboogaloo November 5, 2009 at 3:43 pm

    7 dead, 12 injured in Fort Hood shooting!!!!


  277. 294 berigan2electricboogaloo November 5, 2009 at 3:43 pm

    7 dead, 12 injured in Fort Hood shooting!!!!


  278. 295 Voice of Raisins November 6, 2009 at 7:04 am

    Now 13 dead, 30 wounded…

    The shooter? Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan. But let’s try as hard as we can not to mention his name, or his affiliation, because we don’t want to be insensitive to any religious groups out there, now do we? Oh, except Christians… we can trample all over them…

    I have said it before, and I’ll say it again. Political correctness is gonna kill us all.

    Unknown quote: “Political correctness is trying to pick up a turd by the clean end.”


  279. 296 Voice of Raisins November 6, 2009 at 7:55 am


    The base commander at Fort Hood says soldiers who witnessed a shooting rampagethat left 13 people dead reported that the gunman shouted “Allahu Akbar!” before opening fire at the Texas post.

    Lt. Gen. Robert Cone told NBC’s “Today” show on Friday that suspected shooter, Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan, made the comment, which is Arabic for “God is great!” before the rampage Thursday that also left 30 people wounded.

    At least six months ago, Hasan came to the attention of law enforcement officials because of Internet postings about suicide bombings and other threats, including posts that equated suicide bombers to soldiers who throw themselves on a grenade to save the lives of their comrades.


    Y’all, this just chaps by butt. I’m telling you, if we don’t get our collective head out of the politically correct sand, or our collective posterior – which is the same thing – this kind of crap is gonna continue, and probably with more frequency. This “man” should have been tossed in the brig 6 months ago. But, no….. that might offend a certain religious sect, and we can’t do that! 😡


  280. 297 Voice of Raisins November 6, 2009 at 8:03 am

    Now, onto more pleasant topics…

    Eight teams that will go Holliday shopping
    By Derrick Goold

    #8 Atlanta Braves • The Braves are in need of an outfielder and a bat, and they could find both in [Matt] Holliday. They expect to be a fringe suitor, however, as reports in Atlanta peg the Braves as reluctant to pay the cost that either left fielders, and especially Holliday, are expected to command.


  281. 298 Gil in Mechanicsville November 6, 2009 at 8:04 am

    Agree Raisins…


  282. 299 Voice of Raisins November 6, 2009 at 10:00 am

    From MLBTR, the 2010 Free Agent list, by position, with age, complete with Type A or B status, and Boras clients in bold. Nothing like being thorough:



  283. 300 berigan2electricboogaloo November 6, 2009 at 10:06 am

    Still a bit confused about Wagner.

    From this article

    “I know [the Red Sox] are going to offer me arbitration and of course I’m probably going to turn it down,” said the Red Sox reliever. “I have a million people telling me why would you turn down the option, or why would you do this or that. Well, I didn’t come in this game looking for money, I was just good enough to make some. If I’m going to go chasing money… I haven’t been wise with my money to begin with.”

    Wagner understands what COULD happen, but because of the 38-year-old’s focus on what is right for him and what isn’t, much of it isn’t going to take place.

    The Red Sox COULD pick up Wagner’s $8 million option for 2010, but won’t per a written agreement put in place when trading for the reliever.

    So…we’d have to give up 2 picks then, right??? I’m reading that correctly, with my still sleepy eyes???
    Really, who’s going to do that for a 38 yo closer??? Would the braves????


  284. 301 berigan2electricboogaloo November 6, 2009 at 10:11 am

    V, the PC crap has already begun, because I read last night where some high brass military guy was saying they did not view this as a terrorist attack.
    If one guy does it, it’s never a terrorist attack. Remember soon after 9-11, a Muslim shot and killed an employee at El-Al airline counter at LAX??? Nope, not terrorism then either.
    I’d hate to see what someone would have to do to be considered a terrorist these days.


  285. 302 Voice of Raisins November 6, 2009 at 10:43 am

    I’d hate to see what someone would have to do to be considered a terrorist these days.

    Speak against the Liberals in power…


  286. 303 Voice of Raisins November 6, 2009 at 10:48 am

    And for the record, I personally am against signing of Wagner. If we are going to spend that kind of money on a veteran closer coming off of surgery, we can just re-sign one of our own.

    I advocate the cheaper bullpen approach ala Bell in SD or Franklin in St. Louie. It can be done, folks, and I think we’ll better utilize those limited funds in pursuit of remedying our power outage.

    Just my opinion, though…


  287. 304 Carolina Lady November 6, 2009 at 11:29 am

    Picture this:

    an ol’ Southern boy loses it (for whatever reason), goes to his military base and opens fire on people, killing 14, wounding 30.

    Now, CNN et al, reporting on this Southern boy, somehow brings up his conservative views – and he undoubtedly is a member of the Republican party – and here are pictures of the conservative church he attends – and – tsk, tsk – see what these Conservatives do. We REALLY have to have gun control – what? A military base? Well, they shouldn’t have guns, either.

    Headlines: CONSERVATIVE REPUBLICAN KILLS!!! See details for interview with Pastor of his church!!!


  288. 305 berigan2electricboogaloo November 6, 2009 at 12:12 pm

    CL,so very true. Even Fox yesterday was afraid (at first) to use his name, even when it was all over the web.


  289. 306 Gil in Mechanicsville November 6, 2009 at 12:25 pm

    Yes, things have changed since I taught classes in terrorism response. I suspect I am still on someone’s watch list because of all the research I did 15 years ago and the fact I have a large firearm collection.

    I all ready know the State Police have my operator’s license and auto registrations flagged because I have a conceal carry permit. And that’s all I am going to say about that….

    As for the coward who tries to justify his act of murder in the name of his religion… First thing I would do is spray him with pig’s blood to deny him his idea of Paradise… Idiot….

    And yes Ber, a single individual can be a terrorist, people forget the bombing in Atlanta already?


  290. 308 Voice of Raisins November 6, 2009 at 1:41 pm

    MLBTR’s Tim Dierkes opines that, “While Dye is a projected Type A free agent, it won’t matter because the Sox are highly unlikely to offer arbitration.”

    I have mixed feelings here…

    RH power bet? Yes.

    Defense? Bleh… worse than Garret Anderson.

    For the money he’ll cost, I’d rather try to add a few more mil and go after a premier FA, like maybe… Holliday?

    Pipe dream, I know.

    We’ll probably end up with Marlon Byrd or something…


  291. 309 Carolina Lady November 6, 2009 at 3:23 pm

    Marlon Byrd. He played in ‘The Godfather’, didn’t he?


  292. 310 Voice of Raisins November 6, 2009 at 5:08 pm

    No… he was the host of Mutual of Omaha’s Wild Kingdom. 😀


  293. 311 Carolina Lady November 6, 2009 at 5:09 pm

    Right! I knew I recognized that name from somewhere! Thanks, V!


  294. 312 berigan2electricboogaloo November 6, 2009 at 6:18 pm

    Marlon Byrd was in the Godfeather….sigh…sorry about that.


  295. 313 Carolina Lady November 6, 2009 at 8:49 pm

    Ok – it took me a minute but I finally got it! 😆 😆 😆


  296. 314 Carolina Lady November 6, 2009 at 9:54 pm

    Local girl does good: (from the local fishwrapper)

    Officer who stopped Fort Hood rampage is Carolina Beach native

    By Shannan Bowen

    Published: Friday, November 6, 2009 at 11:21 a.m.

    Those who know Kimberly Barbour Munley said they aren’t surprised the Carolina Beach native is the female civilian police officer credited for stopping the deadly shooting at Fort Hood, where 13 people were killed and several others injured.

    Munley herself was injured, but she managed to shoot the gunman four times within three minutes of reported gunfire Thursday afternoon, Lt. Gen. Bob Cone said Friday morning.

    “She was not afraid of anything,” said Wrightsville Beach Police Chief John Carey, who knew Munley when she worked for the department from 2000 to 2002.

    “She is very small, but she had no fear,” he said.

    Cone lauded Munley for encountering suspected gunman Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan, who is hospitalized on a ventilator. “In an exchange of gunfire, she was wounded but managed to wound him four times,” Cone said. “It was an amazing and aggressive performance by this police officer.”

    Munley arrived at the scene of Thursday’s shooting about seven minutes after it began, the head of Fort Hood’s emergency service said Friday.

    Munley was outside the Soldier Readiness Center building when the shooter, who officials say is Hasan, emerged from the building gun in hand, said Chuck Medley, the director of emergency services at Fort Hood.

    Hasan ran toward Munley, firing at her, Medley said. Munley returned fire with her pistol, hitting him.

    Munley was shot in both legs and one wrist but is expected to make a full recovery, Medley said. He did not know how many times she was shot.

    Hasan is reportedly in stable condition at an undisclosed hospital.

    Medley said he visited Munley in the hospital early Friday and she was in good spirits.

    “She’s got some surgeries (ahead) but she’s stable,” he said. “She’s the most upbeat injured person I’ve met.”

    He said the military is flying her husband, who is stationed at Fort Bragg, N.C., to see her soon. {Ft Bragg is about 90m west of here.}

    Munley is a civilian police officer with the Department of the Army and serves as a SWAT team member and firearms instructor for the department, Medley said. He said she joined the police force in January 2008 after serving in the Army.

    Munley, 34, is the daughter of former Carolina Beach mayor Dennis Barbour. She grew up in Carolina Beach and graduated in 1993 from Hoggard High School.

    Her father and stepmother, Wanda Barbour, were busy Friday afternoon trying to get a flight to Fort Hood so they could visit Munley in the hospital, where she remained in stable condition. They were also fielding calls from local and national media, including CNN’s Anderson Cooper and Inside Edition, according to workers at Island Tackle and Hardware in Carolina Beach, which is owned by the Barbours.

    “We’re just so grateful and thankful to the Lord that she’s safe,” Wanda Barbour said. “Our hearts just ache for the loss of others, too, and hers, too. She’s still upset about that.”

    Barbour said she and her husband found out Thursday afternoon Munley was involved in the attack, but they didn’t find out until later she was the one the top commander at Fort Hood credited with stopping the shooting.

    Like others, Barbour wasn’t surprised it was Munley who helped stop the shooter. “When they said a female officer, a little part of me just knew,” she said.

    “She is a very great person with a great spirit,” she said.

    Ron Strickland, a retired teacher from Hoggard High School, coached Munley’s volleyball team and remembered her as a fearless athlete who was interested in law enforcement.

    “This doesn’t surprise me at all,” Strickland said of Munley’s heroism. “She was always very matter of fact.”

    Munley graduated in 1999 from Cape Fear Community College’s Basic Law Enforcement program, said David Hardin, public information officer for the college.

    Carey said the Wrightsville Beach Police Department was Munley’s first law enforcement job. She was first employed March 1, 2000 as a reserve officer and later worked as a beach patrol officer and as an officer in the Uniform Patrol Division. She left the department in February 2002.

    Munley received three letters of commendation and recognition for her performance as a Wrightsville Beach police officer.

    Investigator Shaun Appler, Munley’s former partner at the Wrightsville Beach Police Department, described her as a “ball of fire” who always showed courage.

    On one occasion, Appler got into a fight with a belligerent man he was attempting to arrest, and ended up rolling down a hill with the attacker. He said Munley came to his rescue, charging down the hill and jumping on the attacker’s back. The two officers then secured and arrested the man.

    When the fight was over, Appler learned his gun had almost been pried off his belt by the suspect. He credits Munley with saving his life.

    “From then on I called her Mighty Mouse,” said Appler. “She’s a little dynamo.”

    When he heard the news Thursday night that a female police officer had taken down the Fort Hood shooter, he wondered if it had been Munley.

    “I was shocked to learn it was Kim, but not surprised,” he said. “This sounds sappy and stupid, but she’s a fine example of law enforcement officers in America. She did an awesome job and we’re proud of her.”

    A news release from the Wrightsville Beach Police Department offered condolences to the families of the soldiers killed and wounded in the shooting, and praised Munley.

    On Friday afternoon, many people sent messages to Munley’s Twitter account, expressing gratitude and wishes for a speedy recovery.

    Country singer Dierks Bentley, who appears with Munley in a photo on Munley’s Twitter page, posted the following message Friday on his own Twitter page: “was able to speak to sgt munley & pass along my prayers for a speedy recovering. she’s tough! and couldn’t be more nice or humble.real hero.” Bentley said he had performed July 4 at Fort Hood.

    In the biography section of Munley’s Twitter account, she summed up her life with the following message: “I live a good life … a hard one, but I go to sleep peacefully @ night knowing that I may have made a difference in someone’s life.”


  297. 315 Gil in Mechanicsville November 7, 2009 at 12:13 am

    Thanks for that CL…. It is good that we have such good and courageous people to combat the evil in the world. She really is a true hero, a word that I think is bandied about far too loosely.

    My take on all this is either the guy was a total whack job or a terrorist or a terrorist who is a total whack job. I am so tired of people hiding behind the mantra of being abused or teased or misunderstood. Actually, someone understands them pretty doggone well, it’s why they get poor performance reviews.

    I have had to deal with a few nut cases myself and when they started the threats I have simply have told them they were reinforcing my perceptions of their character. Only had one guy who really scared me but I would never let on to him that he worried me. I just started carrying a bigger gun….

    Now baseball…. A lot of conjecture about who will be the Braves’ closer next season. I just hope the organization does not try to get by on the cheap…. No doubt, Atlanta won’t be fielding a team on a par salary wise with the Red Sox or the Yankees but I would hate to think they would just settle for a team that was almost go enough. I accept the realities of not having an unlimited budget but I hate compromising. I am thinking the Mets are going to be a lot better next year and I know the Phillies will be looking to bolster their pitching staff.


  298. 316 Carolina Lady November 7, 2009 at 1:39 pm

    “I am so tired of people hiding behind the mantra of being abused or teased or misunderstood.” You and me both!!! That’s a cheap cop-out.

    I’m glad that at least his family (from the little I’ve read) isn’t making excuses for him and ‘deplore his actions.’

    The basic problem goes back to that ‘religion’ that advocates murder and mayhem. Root cause.


  299. 317 Carolina Lady November 7, 2009 at 1:42 pm

    The research project and book are now finished! Book goes to the printer Monday morning. 21 months (minus a couple of months downtime for rotator cuff surgery.) Halleluia!


  300. 318 Carolina Lady November 7, 2009 at 2:53 pm

    by Bill Sammon
    – FOXNews.com
    – November 07, 2009
    George W. Bush Secretly Visits Fort Hood Victims

    The Bushes entered and departed the sprawling military facility in secret, having told the base commander they did not want press coverage of their visit, a source told Fox News.

    Former President George W. Bush and his wife Laura secretly visited Fort Hood last night and spent “considerable time” consoling those who were wounded in Thursday’s shooting spree, Fox News has learned.

    The Bushes entered and departed the sprawling military facility in secret, having told the base commander they did not want press coverage of their visit, a source told Fox News.

    The couple was described as “deeply concerned” about military families on Fort Hood after Army Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan allegedly opened fire on soldiers and civilians, killing 13 and wounding 38.

    The Bushes, who have a 1,600-acre property known as Prairie Chapel Ranch less than 30 miles from Fort Hood in central Texas, spent between one and two hours visiting the wounded and their families.


  301. 319 berigan2electricboogaloo November 7, 2009 at 2:58 pm

    Great news CL!!! 3 cheers!!! What the heck, 4 cheers! 🙂

    And that policewoman at Fort Hood…wow! Hopefully, her money won’t be good anywhere in town, for the rest of her life!


  302. 320 berigan2electricboogaloo November 7, 2009 at 3:39 pm

    “I accept the realities of not having an unlimited budget but I hate compromising.”

    Amen Gil, Amen to that. The Cards found relying on Ryan Frankin was ok during the season, but not during the playoffs.
    I saw where the guy from MLB trade rumors had a story where Mariano Rivera said he’d like to pitch for 5 more years, and how he said it’s hard to justify 15 Mil for a closer, but if anyone was worth it, it was Mariano. While he was complimenting him, there does seem to be an attitude of late that the closers role is overrated. Well…imagine if we had had him instead of Wickman, Chris Reitsma, or Danny Kolb??? Those were mainly scrap heap kind of guys(Well, Wickman wasn’t too bad for awhile)
    Teams that win, teams that go deep, have much better than average closers. I’d take my chances with Soriano, Gonzo, or even Wagner….but I fear, “we shall fill the position from within.” Then we have a bullpen by committee that blows a save every 4th or 5th game, then give up too much to get a closer…and say once again, gee, too bad we missed the wildcard by 5 games….


  303. 321 Carolina Lady November 7, 2009 at 4:33 pm

    I think Wickman got disgusted with the way Bobby used him. I remember reading a comment where he said (to the effect) “I’m a CLOSER. I close games.” Bobby didn’t think that way.


  304. 322 berigan2electricboogaloo November 7, 2009 at 6:27 pm

    CL, thats true. I still remember Bobby using him in Colorado when it was painfully clear his sinker didn’t work there. Didn’t he run him out there twice and he blew both games???
    Then we heard stuff later that made it sound like Wickman was a jerk…and he never played for anyone else…which is funny considering how desperate teams get for relievers.


  305. 323 berigan2electricboogaloo November 7, 2009 at 6:36 pm

    And V, I keep forgetting to chime in about Jermaine Dye. I keep hearing how he’s a bad outfielder, and there may be some stats that show that…but, he’s been a right fielder, in a pretty big park. I’d imagine their right field is larger than ours. Just guessing though.
    But, I “tivo” with my DVR baseball tonight all season long, and I saw him make a lot of good catches, running into the fence, diving…things I never saw G.A. do.
    Now, you can’t judge a guy on his spectacular plays,
    he may not do as well coming in. But, I think he’s got a good arm, and if he’s in left, he would be at least as good as G.A. both in the field, and at the plate. His 44 homer season skews things a bit, but he has averaged 32 homers the past 5 years. He will see more fastballs in the NL. And we have a much more potent(potentially speaking) offense than the Sox did last year. They really were terrible. No one even drove in 90 runs. Put Dye in Left, and bat him cleanup, with Mac behind him, and I think that’s a good lineup. And really, who else is there that’s going to do better, not named Bay or Holliday???


  306. 324 Gil in Mechanicsville November 7, 2009 at 9:28 pm

    I watched a little bit of the AFL Future stars game. Mike Minor got shelled in the first inning….


  307. 325 berigan2electricboogaloo November 8, 2009 at 7:21 am

    So in other words, he ain’t exacts Mike Majors yet??? 😛


  308. 326 Gil in Mechanicsville November 8, 2009 at 8:00 am

    Good one Ber, and sadly… no…


  309. 327 Carolina Lady November 8, 2009 at 5:47 pm

    re: Nasan (Ft Hood):
    “….assumed the military’s chain of command knew about Hasan’s doubts, which had been known for more than a year to classmates at the Maryland graduate military medical program. His fellow students complained to the faculty about Hasan’s “anti-American propaganda,” but said a fear of appearing discriminatory against a Muslim student kept officers from filing a formal complaint.”

    PC – Mission accomplished.

    The liberals’ doctrine of PC endangers every person, no matter where he/she is. Why is it necessary to walk on eggshells where these people are concerned? The majority are our sworn enemies.


  310. 328 Carolina Lady November 8, 2009 at 6:30 pm

    Saturday, November 7, 2009
    Below are the 39 House Democrats who voted against Pelosi’s health care reform bill on Nov. 7, 2009. They should be thanked for their display of conviction, patriotism, courage, and for voting their principles while under considerable political pressure from the Marxist wing of the Democrat Party. These 39 Democrat representatives voted to respect the Constitution, respect individual and property rights, and voted against further expansion of an already out-of-control federal government:

    1. Rep. John Adler (NJ)

    2. Rep. Jason Altmire (PA)

    3. Rep. Brian Baird (WA)

    4. Rep. John Barrow (GA)

    5. Rep. John Boccieri (OH)

    6. Rep. Dan Boren (OK)

    7. Rep. Rick Boucher (VA)

    8. Rep. Allen Boyd (FL)

    9. Rep. Bobby Bright (AL)

    10. Rep. Ben Chandler (KT)

    11. Rep. Travis Childers (MS)

    12. Rep. Artur Davis (AL)

    13. Rep. Lincoln Davis (TN)

    14. Rep. Chet Edwards (TX)

    15. Rep. Bart Gordon (TN)

    16. Rep. Parker Griffith (AL)

    17. Rep. Stephanie Herseth Sandlin (SD)

    18. Rep. Tim Holden (PA)

    19. Rep. Larry Kissell (NC)

    20. Rep. Suzanne Kosmas (FL)

    21. Rep. Frank Kratovil (MD)

    22. Rep. Dennis Kucinich (OH)

    23. Rep. Jim Marshall (GA)

    24. Rep. Betsy Markey (CO)

    25. Rep. Eric Massa (NY)

    26. Rep. Jim Matheson(UT)

    27. Rep. Mike McIntyre (NC) <– my guy

    28. Rep. Michael McMahon (NY)

    29. Rep. Charlie Melancon (LA)

    30. Rep. Walt Minnick (ID)

    31. Rep. Scott Murphy (NY)

    32. Rep. Glenn Nye (VA)

    33. Rep. Collin Peterson (MN)

    34. Rep. Mike Ross (AR)

    35. Rep. Heath Shuler (NC)

    36. Rep. Ike Skelton (MO)

    37. Rep. John Tanner (TN)

    38. Rep. Gene Taylor (MS)

    39. Rep. Harry Teague (NM)

    One unprincipled Republican, Rep. Joseph Cao (R-LA), now know as Joseph "Mao," voted for the bill.

    Below is Congressman Joseph Cao's contact information:

    Washington Office

    2113 Rayburn HOB
    Washington, DC 20515
    Phone: (202) 225-6636
    Fax: (202) 225-1988 . New Orleans Office

    4640 So. Carrollton Ave. Suite 120
    New Orleans, LA 70119
    Phone: (504) 483-2325
    Fax: (504) 483-7944

    If you would like to arrange a meeting with Congressman Cao (Mao), contact his scheduler at 202-225-6636.


  311. 329 flbravesgirl November 8, 2009 at 9:34 pm

    Back home again. The 9-hour drive makes my hip joints beg for mercy. 😦

    But we did get a lot done & the leaves were beautiful early in the week. We wrapped up our stay by raking leaves, then raking more leaves and raking yet more leaves. And the trees weren’t all bare yet so there will be more.


  312. 330 flbravesgirl November 8, 2009 at 9:45 pm

    I almost hate to get into this but the PC thing is beyond ridiculous. This head-in-the-sand thinking is every bit as ignorant as someone who is prejudiced against Muslims or people with Arabic-sounding names. People are individuals. What could be so wrong with treating them as individuals and dealing with them on a case-by-case basis?


  313. 331 Carolina Lady November 8, 2009 at 10:05 pm

    Welcome back, FBG! We sure missed you! Glad you had a safe trip there and back. Nine hours. Ouch!


  314. 332 Gil in Mechanicsville November 9, 2009 at 6:25 am

    Yes FBG… That’s what we have been saying all along. It is why we “old folk” get so frustrated when others play the race card or the Muslim card or the gay card or any other supposed “hate” idiom. Pretty soon the effect is worn down so that those who actually have a grievance are not heard.

    Now baseball… Still looking for that big bat… The Braves are going to have to get off their dime to make it happen.


  315. 333 Gil in Mechanicsville November 9, 2009 at 6:30 am

    And as for leaves… I bought a lawn vac a couple of years ago. It is still work emptying out the hopper but less work than raking.

    I miss the days when we were able to burn the leaves. Sigh… Another activity lost to political correctness…


  316. 334 Voice of Raisins November 9, 2009 at 9:28 am

    Dick Morris:

    As the suicidal Democratic congressmen proceed to rubber-stamp the Obama healthcare reform despite the drubbing their party took in the ‘09 elections, the president trotted out the endorsements of the AMA and the AARP to stimulate support. But these — and the other endorsements — his package has received are all bought and paid for.



  317. 335 Voice of Raisins November 9, 2009 at 9:31 am

    The United States of Chicago…


  318. 336 Voice of Raisins November 9, 2009 at 10:14 am

    GM Meetings kick off today in Chicago… three days of posturing…


  319. 337 Voice of Raisins November 9, 2009 at 10:17 am

    MLB dates to note:

    Nov. 9-11, 2009
    General Managers Meetings, Chicago

    Nov. 12, 2009
    AL, NL Silver Slugger Award winners announced.

    Nov. 16, 2009
    AL, NL Rookie of the Year Award winners announced.

    Nov. 17, 2009
    AL Cy Young Award winner announced.

    Nov. 18, 2009
    AL, NL Manager of the Year Award winners announced.

    Nov. 18-19, 2009
    Owners Meetings, Chicago

    Nov. 19, 2009
    NL Cy Young Award winner announced.

    Nov. 20, 2009
    Reserve lists for all Major and Minor League levels filed.

    Nov. 23, 2009
    AL MVP Award winner announced.

    Nov. 24, 2009
    NL MVP Award winner announced.

    Nov. 30, 2009
    Players union executive board annual meeting, Scottsdale, Ariz.

    Dec. 1, 2009
    Last date for former Club to offer salary arbitration to receive compensation.

    Dec. 7-10, 2009
    Winter Meetings, Indianapolis

    Dec. 10, 2009
    Major League Rule 5 Draft — Winter Meetings, Indianapolis

    Dec. 12, 2009
    Tender deadline


  320. 338 berigan2electricboogaloo November 9, 2009 at 12:54 pm

    FBG, I was seeing some disturbing comments on a political chat room yesterday. Some people are so mad at that murderer, that they are bashing all Muslims. Now, if only the military hadn’t been so afraid to flag him , and get him out of the military, those 13 soldiers would still be alive. And their would be less anger at Muslims right now….sigh….


  321. 340 Voice of Raisins November 9, 2009 at 4:34 pm

    The official Elias rankings for 2010 Free agents are out.

    This applies to current Braves:

    Adam LaRoche – Type B
    Garrett Anderson – Type B
    Mike Gonzalez – Type A
    Rafael Soriano – Type A

    … and players the Braves might be interested:

    Matt Holliday – Type A
    Jason Bay – Type A
    Jermaine Dye – Type A
    Marlon Byrd – Type B
    Mike Cameron – Type B
    Mark DeRosa – Type B
    Xavier Nady – Type B
    Billy Wagner – Type A


  322. 341 Voice of Raisins November 9, 2009 at 5:09 pm

    Ken Rosenthal blogging from the GM meetings:

    Braves pondering other options besides LaRoche — 4:04 p.m.

    While the Braves are interested in re-signing first baseman Adam LaRoche, they plan to explore other possibilities on the trade and free-agent markets.

    Club officials are concerned about LaRoche’s history of poor performance in the first half of seasons. They do not want to overpay LaRoche and then regret it.

    The Braves are looking for offense, but some of their solutions should come from within.

    The team expects Chipper Jones to rebound and Yunel Escobar to continue improving. Nate McLouth learned he needed contact lenses at the end of the season and top outfield prospect Jason Heyward, who figures to join the team at some point in 2010, possesses game-changing ability.

    First I have heard of anything related to N8…


  323. 342 Voice of Raisins November 9, 2009 at 5:12 pm

    Oh, and here’s an interesting tidbit courtesy of our friendly neighborhood beat writer across the street:

    Someone here at the meetings who would probably know, told me the Braves have at least discussed trying to sign Vazquez to a contract extension. Don’t know how far they’ve gone with it or if they’re leaning one way or another, but they’ve discussed it.

    Me likey!


  324. 343 Carolina Lady November 9, 2009 at 5:15 pm

    I hope they resign Vasquez, too. And, I’m concerned about Adam’s half-season power outtage. Thanks for the updates, V!


  325. 344 berigan2electricboogaloo November 9, 2009 at 5:24 pm

    Thanks for the list V! Interesting. Sometimes I think those folks throw a dart at a wall and if it hits A, the guy is a A, and if it hits B, he’s a B.
    Mark DeRosa has hit about .290 the past 2 years. And has played the majority of his games(about 90+ each years) at 2nd. Almost 80 RBI’s each years. But, he’s a B. Weird. Good for us though!

    Marlon Byrd – Type B. Mike Cameron – Type B. That seems like a no brainer, IF that was a direction we were going to go, Byrd. We really don’t need another 37 year old, do we??? Sure seems to hit us though.

    Hmm, if only we knew what Heyward was capable of. Put him in right, Nate in Left, and Byrd in Center(or vise versa) That sounds like a pretty good line-up. But, is that really good enough to beat the Phils???


  326. 345 Voice of Raisins November 9, 2009 at 7:04 pm

    I really expect Texas to retain Byrd; he “fits” their ballpark.

    As to Cameron, well, he’s no bopper in the classic sense, but he is a capable offensive and defensive player. I just hope he’s plan “B”.

    I’ll tell you, folks, I don’t see a real perfect match, either through FA or trade, to fill our gaping LF hole. Nope… I think Frank is gonna have to surprise us all, but I think he’s the kind of GM to do it.


  327. 346 Gil in Mechanicsville November 9, 2009 at 7:58 pm

    I watched three different news channels today, only one mentioned Regan’s contribution to the fall of the Berlin Wall…

    Only one made a connection with Islamic Jihad and Ft Hood…

    Personally, if I were in charge, I would sack every Army officer who ever came into contact with that nut job.

    I took my boat to be winterize today. Then got up some more leaves. Sigh, that was until the drive belt on the mower broke…. Looks good though… 20 years from now, someone is going to reap the benefits of my mulch pile in the back….

    Josie and I want to to go to the beach for a couple of days but something always seems to get in the way. This week it just might be Ida.

    Now baseball… Note to Frank Wren, sign LaRoche and move on… No body knows who will hit next year, just do it, if it goes bad you can blame me….


  328. 347 Carolina Lady November 9, 2009 at 8:13 pm

    Gil, I keep thinking that 13 Americans would be alive today if someone had had the guts to report him for the things he said, argued about and/or advocated. “Too scared to report a muslim” even though he was openly anti-American and advocated the murder of Americans.

    When Hasan asked a fellow muslim about his going overseas and having to fight other muslims, the other guy said, “Muslims are fighting muslims throughout the middle east. Why would you think your military service would be any different?”

    Buying powerful handguns as far back as last August, emptying his apartment, giving away his belongings, leaving farewell messages on friends’ answering machines – yep, sounds pretty pre-meditated to me.

    I don’t see that muslims have any qualms about bombing, murdering or mutilating other muslims, including little children.

    They are the most two-faced hypocrites I think I’ve ever seen.


  329. 348 flbravesgirl November 9, 2009 at 11:24 pm

    I would be delighted if they signed JV to an extension.

    Interesting about Nate needing contacts. That would explain why he seemed to fizzle out towards the end of the season.


  330. 349 Gil in Mechanicsville November 10, 2009 at 8:10 am

    Well, most major league hitters have 20-15 vision or better anyway. Has anyone said (reported) on how BMac’s last Lasix surgery went?

    On LaRoche’s oft reported slow starts… Maybe he should play winter ball to get him up to speed early. I think the real reason is because the pitchers are fresher in the spring. They don’t develop tired arm syndrome until July, about the same time old Rochie hits his stride.

    Wow, it’s mid November already…. Hard for me to believe this year has flown by so quickly.


  331. 350 Voice of Raisins November 10, 2009 at 8:23 am

    FBG, the N8/contacts thing was certainly a surprise to everyone. Never sow it coming…


  332. 351 Voice of Raisins November 10, 2009 at 9:01 am

    Interesting stat-head comparison of Jason Bay and Mike Cameron.


    As you all know, I really like Mike Cameron, just not as the cleanup hitter we need. But failing the mythical and elusive RH cleanup hitting bopper, Mike Cameron would be a nice signing. He could probably be had for a very affordable 1 year deal. He still plays a very good CF, and would almost certainly be a perfect placeholder for Jordan Schafer, allowing N8 to move to LF and provide some stability in that position for this year and beyond.

    And again, while not the classic bopper, Cameron does hit righty and he did hit 24 jacks last season.

    The key, to me, is that we would need to fill the cleanup void at 1B.

    Envision this:

    1. N8, LF
    2. Prado, 2B
    3. Chipper, 3B
    4. 1B
    5. Mac, C
    6. Yunel, SS
    7. Cameron, CF
    8. Diaz, RF

    Not bad…

    And with JHey on the way, it looks even better:

    1. N8, LF
    2. Prado, 2B
    3. Chipper, 3B
    4. 1B
    5. Mac, C
    6. JHey, RF
    7. Yunel, SS
    8. Cameron, CF

    Still strong… as long as you have that power source at 1B.

    Now, to make this post even longer, lets look at Cameron with LaRoche at 1B:

    1. N8, LF
    2. Prado, 2B
    3. Yunel, SS
    4. Chipper, 3B
    5. Mac, C
    6. JHey, RF
    7. Rochey, 1B
    8. Cameron, CF

    Yeah, yeah… I know… Chipper doesn’t want to hit 4th. Guess what? If he’s still around in 2011, he won’t be 3rd anyway, JHey will.

    I’ll tell you what I’d like to see, and it won’t happen. I’d like to see Chipper actually take some of his offseason and get out of the woods and into the gym. I’d like to see him get a little stronger and move across the diamond to 1B.

    I’d like to see the Braves go out and snatch Mark DeRosa out of the main crosshairs of Philly, and plant him at 3B. And then sign Cameron.

    Now you still have a few $$$ left to re-sign Gonzo to close.

    My lineup, with ’09 numbers:

    1. N8, LF (L) .257/.354/.419, 11 HR, 36 RBI
    2. Prado, 2B (R) .307/.358/.464, 11 HR, 49 RBI
    3. JHey, RF (L) .323/.408/.505, 17 HR, 63 RBI (99 games in A, AA & AAA)
    4. Chipper, 1B (S) .264/.388/.430, 18 HR, 71 RBI
    5. Mac, C (L) .281/.349/.486, 21 HR, 94 RBI
    6. Yunel, SS (R) .299/.377/.436, 14 HR, 76 RBI
    7. DeRo, 3B (R) .228/.291/.405, 23 HR, 78 RBI
    8. Cameron, CF (R) .250/.342/.452, 24 HR, 70 RBI

    There’s no 30 HR guy, and Chipper bats cleanup against his will, but there’s alot of productivity from 1-8.

    And with JHey batting 3rd with Chipper behind him, he ought to see some good pitches to hit.

    Affordable and productive. Also, each of them plays at least average to above average defensively.

    Honestly, folks, I think that lineup would win.

    But that’s just me…


  333. 352 Voice of Raisins November 10, 2009 at 9:15 am

    And you are right, that assumes a whole lot about JHey, but I’m buying that stock, so I might as well go all in.


  334. 353 Voice of Raisins November 10, 2009 at 9:27 am

    Quote from Mike Czajkowski, Braves lefty prospect Mike Minor’s AFL pitching coach, courtesy of ajc:

    “I think some teams are going to think twice that they passed him up. A left-hander that throws the way he does, with the body he has, the type of pitches he has, and the way the ball comes out of his hand? He’s as close to a can’t-miss as I’ve seen.”


  335. 354 Voice of Raisins November 10, 2009 at 9:40 am

    Mike Czajkowski.. 😀

    Not to be confused with Mike Wazowski.



  336. 355 Gil in Mechanicsville November 10, 2009 at 10:13 am

    Raisins, I like Heyward’s upside but I am not quite ready to bet the farm on him yet. I have not forgotten all the hype on a few other “can’t miss” type out there. Truth is, it often is another team who reaps the rewards of Braves’ rookies. Adam Wainwright come to mind pretty quickly.

    We are all on a budget. Yep, pretty frustrating not to be able to spend like Congress without regard to the consequences. Still, the Braves have a pretty good core of players right now. Imagine how good this team could be if Kelly Johnson had actually panned out.

    So, the Braves could sign a guy like Cantu and still have a little breathing room. Would he be better than Adam? Doubt it. With some of the wild throws made in the direction of firstbase by Escobar and Chipper, it is pretty evident the Braves need a firstbaseman who possesses some prowess with a glove.

    I think Schafer will make a return next season but perhaps the expectation will not be so high. An outfield of Schefer, Heyward and McLouth could cover some ground but would tend to make the lineup a bit lefty heavy… All of them have some pop and speed.


  337. 356 Carolina Lady November 10, 2009 at 10:42 am


    One of the big questions of the winter is whether the Braves will trade right-hander Javier Vazquez for a hitter.

    Vazquez’s contract allows him to veto deals to the NL West and AL West. And the Braves, before compromising their starting pitching depth, must weigh whether they can get a strong enough bat in return.

    Twins right fielder Michael Cuddyer is not available, but that’s the type of slugger the Braves likely would want for Vazquez, who went 15-10 with a 2.87 ERA last season. Trading Vazquez for say, a slightly above-average hitter and Class AA prospect would make little sense.

    Another option for the Braves would be to trade right-hander Kenshin Kawakami for a lesser hitter.


  338. 357 Voice of Raisins November 10, 2009 at 11:17 am

    An outfield of Schefer, Heyward and McLouth could cover some ground but would tend to make the lineup a bit lefty heavy… All of them have some pop and speed.

    Agreed, Gil. And I believe eventually that Jordan Schafer will put up the kind of numbers very comparable to Cameron. I’m just not so sure he’ll be ready in 2010 given that he missed 50 games in 2008, and half a season in 2009.

    That said, who thought he’d be ready last spring when he easily won the CF job after missing those 50 games in ’08? So who knows?

    (By the way, I also buy into the wrist injury as the most significant reason for his struggles last year. I think the kid is gonna be a solid player.)

    The next question is, will Wren/Cox go into a season with 2 rookies in the OF being counted on to produce? Not so sure, but one thing is for certain… JHey has proven that he defies all conventional logic.

    Heck, I have Cameron slotted at the #8 spot anyway…

    My gut tells me that we will try to fill our power need at 1B, not in the OF. I think it’ll be a guy that we haven’t discussed. Just a gut feeling… nothing tangible to base it on…


  339. 358 Voice of Raisins November 10, 2009 at 11:18 am



  340. 359 Voice of Raisins November 10, 2009 at 11:28 am

    … as in Xavier Nady.

    Under the radar… HR potential.

    One year deal due to injury concerns.

    He has 82 Major League games as a 1B.

    Bats right.


  341. 360 Voice of Raisins November 10, 2009 at 11:51 am

    Nah… within a matter of 20 minutes, I talked myself outta Nady… 2 TJ surgeries, probably only 20 HR max potential…



  342. 361 Voice of Raisins November 10, 2009 at 11:57 am

    … and Boras client…



  343. 362 Salty November 10, 2009 at 1:12 pm

    Another option for the Braves would be to trade right-hander Kenshin Kawakami for a lesser hitter.

    Braves don’t need a ‘lesser hitter’…the need a ‘bopper hitter’…keep KK.

    I’m with you, Gil…sign LaRoche…be done with it.


  344. 363 Carolina Lady November 10, 2009 at 3:19 pm

    SG is alive and well! Juggling a couple of dozen chainsaws. Hopefully can stop in soon.


  345. 364 Voice of Raisins November 10, 2009 at 3:45 pm

    So, CL, how’s the shoulder?

    I thought about you yesterday when my right shoulder, which I had repaired almost 20 years ago, began hurting for no apparent reason. I can think of nothing I have done to aggravate it. Worse, today I can hardly lift my right arm, and the constant ache is pretty intense. Yesterday it was a “little sore” when I moved it a certain way; today it is a sharp ache just hangin’.

    Guess I won’t be signing any long term deals this winter.

    Age sux…


  346. 365 Carolina Lady November 10, 2009 at 4:05 pm

    Really sorry to hear that, Raisins!

    sigh – overall, the pain level is less than it was before surgery and I have a little more use of it than before surgery – so from that standpoint I’d guess you could say it was successful.

    However, the pain is much more than I expected at this point after surgery (9 months) and I have less use out of it than I expected.

    Would I do it again? NO! Not unless I had absolutely NO other choice and simply couldn’t live with it anymore. Then, I MIGHT consider it.

    But, to be fair, I had to do things at an early stage after surgery that probably kept it from healing properly – lifting Mother’s heavy wheelchair in and out of the trunk, etc.


  347. 366 Voice of Raisins November 10, 2009 at 5:05 pm

    Ken Rosenthal’s live blog from the GM meetings:

    Smoltz wants to keep playing — 3:49 p.m.

    It’s official — John Smoltz intends to play next season.

    Smoltz, 42, met with his agents on Tuesday and informed them of his desire to extend his 22-year career.

    Smoltz, a free agent, is open to starting or relieving, according to a source with knowledge of his thinking.

    He does not have a specific team in mind, but figures to again end up in the National League.

    Smoltz signed a free-agent contract with the Red Sox last winter but was released after going 2-5 with an 8.32 ERA in eight starts.

    He then signed with the Cardinals and performed much better, going 1-3 with a 4.26 ERA in seven starts.

    Good luck, Johnny, but there comes a time when every player has to hang up the spikes. You shoulda done it after ’08.


  348. 367 Gil in Mechanicsville November 10, 2009 at 11:33 pm

    Shoulder pain likely bursitis, heat/cold and aspirin. If not better after a couple of days… well, cortisone directly in the hurt should do the trick. You don’t even want to think about the alternative.

    CL, Josie said a year…. And that was with PT

    As for me. I sometimes think every joint is aching… I try not to be around people when I a feeling bad, I only take it out on them… You should have heard me rail against Pelosi the other night… Or maybe not…

    A report on Fox today said cursing is good for you… If that is true then I should be in great shape.

    I managed to replace the mower belt on one of the John Deere mowers today. I fought with it for over an hour trying to replace the broken belt with a spare I had hanging in the barn. When I finally went to the dealer, he said there were two belts for that model, one was an inch shorter than the other… Guess which one I had.

    Anyway, I am hoping the Braves will resign LaRoche and they can bring Freddie Freeman along without placing undue pressure on him. I don’t know how much Rochie will command but we are not looking at Ryan Howard or Prince Fielder numbers when it come to cost. I still say Cantu is an option but not the defensive plus that Adam is, still, Cantu can also play third.

    I have not even begun to think about the bullpen. Way too early I suppose. Too bad Smoltzie burn his bridges… I think….


  349. 368 Voice of Raisins November 11, 2009 at 8:33 am




  350. 369 Voice of Raisins November 11, 2009 at 8:48 am


    Russell Branyan has rejected the Mariners initial contract offer.

    According to MLB.com:

    Free-agent first baseman Russell Branyan has rejected a one-year offer from the Mariners and though he still hopes to return to Seattle next season, he said he would rather test the market than settle for anything less than a two-year deal.

    “I’m not a bad guy, not a selfish guy,” he said from his offseason home. “I don’t know if there is a two- or three-year deal out there for me, but I would like to have more than a one-year deal. I don’t want another one-and-done [contract].”



  351. 370 Carolina Lady November 11, 2009 at 11:16 am

    To all who are serving in our Military and to all who have served, you have my most heart-felt THANKS. You are thought of daily and prayed for daily. Your ears may never hear it, but know there are many like me who sincerely appreciate you!

    Gil, “You should have heard me rail against Pelosi the other night” – you don’t have to be in a bad temper to do that! In fact, I think it is she that usually causes it! 😆

    “one was an inch shorter than the other… Guess which one I had.” JDeere strikes again! I don’t even fight with mine anymore. Since surgery, either my brother or Aaron have done the yard, and they hate it as much as I did/do


  352. 371 Voice of Raisins November 11, 2009 at 1:19 pm

    Barry Jackson, Miami Herald:

    The Marlins lean toward keeping Jorge Cantu (who has drawn interest) but would consider an extraordinary offer.


  353. 372 Voice of Raisins November 11, 2009 at 1:42 pm

    Rosenthal reports that the Mariners are discussing a deal with Toronto for Lyle Overbay. That tells me that they will not go 2 years guaranteed for Russell Branyan. Apparently the deal Branyan turned down was for 1 year guaranteed plus an option for 2011. Branyan wants the 2.

    Are the M’s just posturing by discussing Overbay, or are they firm in not offering 2 for Branyan. Would you offer 2 to Branyan to play 1B here?

    Remember… 31 HR’s, 76 RBI in just 116 games in ’09…

    He’s just 34…

    Of course, he’s rehabbing a herniated disk… (OH BOY was the typo I just fixed a doozie! 😳 I am so glad I proofread!!!))

    I’ll quit while I’m behind… 😳


  354. 373 Voice of Raisins November 11, 2009 at 1:43 pm



  355. 374 berigan2electricboogaloo November 11, 2009 at 1:44 pm

    Gee….ever read posts, then go elsewhere, and forget to post here??? 😳

    Anyway. CL! Bad CL lifting that wheelchair before the cuff had healed! Sigh…I know, you had to. Still….even having someone help you lift it in the car. My Dad and I did that a lot.

    V, sorry about your shoulder issues. I remember having my should act up from using the thing at the gym. You know, you hang from it, you grab the horizontal bars…your forearms rest on the pads and you can do ab crunches, all sorts of things. Anyway. I messed up my left shoulder doing that. And rested it and rested it. Doing nothing didn’t work in other words. Anyway, I was assigned some light weight exercises. Such simple things like having your arms hang at your side, and slowly rotate those 5 pound weights back and forth. And some butterfly like motions. Seemed like goofy stuff that couldn’t work, but it did! Perhaps you can call doc to see if they have some printouts you can pick up without seeing him???


  356. 375 berigan2electricboogaloo November 11, 2009 at 1:48 pm

    V, I think I can imagine what it was! 😯 I imagine that could be quite painful too! :mrgreen:

    Anyway, you and CL probably have some printouts, but in case you don’t, here are some I found on the web. I know, no one but me knows how to google! 😕



    CL, you ARE doing strengthening exercises, correct???


  357. 376 berigan2electricboogaloo November 11, 2009 at 1:51 pm

    And Salty, do you ever check your email??? Come on man, you are holding up progress!!! 😉

    Ok, I need to quit being my Mom, and get back to work….sigh…

    Wait! The heck with work! V, lets sign Russell B!
    34 HRs would look awfully good at 1st this year….


  358. 377 berigan2electricboogaloo November 11, 2009 at 6:07 pm

    Excellent Avatar V! We can never thank enough those that defended us….


  359. 378 Carolina Lady November 11, 2009 at 8:57 pm

    NEW YORK (AP) — CNN host Lou Dobbs says he is leaving CNN effective immediately.

    The longtime host of “Lou Dobbs Tonight” said Wednesday on his show that it would be his last. He said CNN had allowed him to be released from his contact, which would enable him “to pursue new opportunities.”

    He said he was considering a number of options.

    The longest-running anchor on CNN’s air, Dobbs was one of the nation’s leading financial journalists before turning his program in a more opinionated direction. His persistent advocacy against illegal immigration angered many.


  360. 379 Carolina Lady November 11, 2009 at 9:04 pm

    Holy cow. Simon Cowell (American Idol et al) makes MORE per year than Donald Trump. $75m @ yr. I knew you’d want to know that. 😛

    (That’s $6.25m per MONTH….)


  361. 380 berigan2electricboogaloo November 11, 2009 at 11:17 pm

    CL, did you know that a gunshot was fired inside his house about a month ago????


  362. 381 flbravesgirl November 12, 2009 at 12:41 am

    Why does this thing keep logging me out? Annoying.

    Other than that, I am a happy girl. Went to a skating show tonight, which is a near-miracle. We never get competitions or the televised specials in Florida, only the Stars On Ice tour. Also some of these specials have really horrendous musical guests so we were quite fortunate to get Smokey Robinson. He’s before my time of course but everyone knows his music, it’s classic. He was in good voice too.


  363. 382 flbravesgirl November 12, 2009 at 12:48 am

    It’ll be on NBC the afternoon of the 22nd. We were in the second row so we’ll likely be on TV. Facing the stage we’d be on the right. Just look for the tall blond lady in the pink jacket singing her head off, that would be my mom.

    Actually got to say Hi to a couple of the skaters as we got to our seats, their entrance was next to us.


  364. 383 berigan2electricboogaloo November 12, 2009 at 5:15 am

    Hey FBG, sounds like you had a great time! My Mom only got to one skating event here in Atlanta. She and her friend loved it.


  365. 384 Gil in Mechanicsville November 12, 2009 at 6:30 am

    Anyone else watch the CMA music awards last night? I saw the first 30 minutes and after being treated to a pole dance, Kid Rock and a rapper turned county I said enough, It is not the country I remember.

    FBG, I am glad you had to opportunity to see one of your favorite past times. Josie is a big skating fan as well, must be a woman thing….

    Jim Riggleman signed to manage the Nationals next season. I am glad, DC is not big enough to handle another megalomaniac like Valentine. The Nationals still won’t be that good but I expect them to be better. Pitching or lack thereof is their key.

    Wind and rain expected today. Hopefully the last of the pine tags and leaves will come down… without the rest of the tree I might add…


  366. 385 Voice of Raisins November 12, 2009 at 7:43 am

    Interesting note from Mark Bowman regarding last offseason:

    While waiting to see if [Jake] Peavy would provide the Padres the OK to attempt to send him to Atlanta, the Braves held off on their attempt to obtain Nick Swisher from the White Sox. The Yankees acquired [Nick] Swisher on Nov. 13 and 24 hours later, Braves GM Frank Wren revealed that he was no longer actively pursuing Peavy.

    As the Braves saw their left fielders combine to hit .270 with 17 homers, 70 RBIs and a .725 OPS this year, Swisher was hitting .249 with 29 homers, 82 RBIs and an .869 OPS for the world champions.


  367. 386 Voice of Raisins November 12, 2009 at 7:46 am

    More Bowman on the Braves pitching excess:

    Early indications are the Braves believe that the Yankees or Angels might be willing to deal for [Derek] Lowe. Before doing this, the Yankees will make a run for the younger [John] Lackey, whose financial demands will determine whether the Angels attempt to bring him back to continue his role as their ace.

    If Lackey does exit Southern California, there is a belief that the Angels would then attempt to work a trade for the Blue Jays to acquire Roy Halladay, who will cost just $750,000 more than Lowe next year.

    This obviously could further complicate things for the Braves, who are looking to move one of these starters to create the financial flexibility to take care of some of their other roster needs — first baseman, closer and outfielder.

    So while the Braves would like the opportunity to keep [Javier] Vazquez, they may find that they have to deal him before paying the consequences of the waiting game that will transpire as they wait to see whether there will be a team that is willing to trade for Lowe.

    If the Braves are able to deal Lowe, then they are expected to begin seriously discussing the possibility of offering Vazquez an extension that would keep him in Atlanta beyond the 2010 season.

    Vazquez found a comfort zone in Atlanta and he has made it known multiple times that he doesn’t want to be traded. But for now, like the rest of us, he finds himself simply playing the waiting game.


  368. 387 Voice of Raisins November 12, 2009 at 7:51 am

    Rosenthal opines that the Yankers might make a run at Mike Cameron given Johnny Damon’s desire for a 3 year deal.

    I still think Cameron would be a great fit in Atlanta. But, hey, that’s just me…


  369. 388 Voice of Raisins November 12, 2009 at 7:59 am

    Mat Gamel, Brewers.

    Just don’t want y’all to forget that name…


  370. 389 Voice of Raisins November 12, 2009 at 8:02 am

    Winter Meetings: December 7-10

    That’s when the real fun begins…


  371. 390 Voice of Raisins November 12, 2009 at 8:03 am

    From the ajc:

    “We had some meetings with clubs yesterday and did some additional talking last night and this morning, so I think we’ve got a better lay of the land from a standpoint of who we match up well with,” [Frank] Wren said.


  372. 391 Voice of Raisins November 12, 2009 at 8:25 am

    Here’s a ;ittle good ol’ local news:

    A motorist on I-85 near Jefferson hit and killed a large black bear on Sunday. When officials from the Department of Natural Resources went to the scene to remove the bear, someone had stolen the body.

    Someone driving a SUV struck the bear around 8 p.m. on Sunday at Exit 137 on I-85. The Jefferson Police Department was called to the accident scene.

    The bear had died and the DNR was called to come and remove the body. When DNR officials arrived Monday morning, the bear’s body was gone.

    According to DNR officials, it is a violation of state law to be in possession of a bear or bear parts.

    DNR agent Eric Isom is handling the investigation of the missing bear. Anyone with information is asked to call…

    I love living here! 😀


  373. 392 Voice of Raisins November 12, 2009 at 8:28 am

    Uh, little…


  374. 393 Gil in Mechanicsville November 12, 2009 at 9:18 am

    Black bear huh? Well, I have noticed a proliferation of dead skunks here in the Old Dominion. No problem with folks absconding with the skunk carcasses though. Can’t get the highway department to pick them up either. Thank goodness for the scavengers who populate the area. Yes, having a few Democrats around can sometimes be useful.

    Now baseball… Uh, I got nothing… must be the rain…


  375. 394 Voice of Raisins November 12, 2009 at 9:47 am

    Ken Rosenthal:

    Braves weighing second-tier sluggers — 6:39 a.m.

    In the Braves’ perfect world, they would obtain a right-handed slugger in his prime, someone like Twins right fielder Michael Cuddyer, who is not available.

    Such players are in short supply, and the Braves are unlikely to make runs at the top free-agent hitters, Matt Holliday and Jason Bay.

    Instead, they are kicking around a variety of lesser options, including the following:

    Marlon Byrd, free agent: Coming off a career-high 20-homer, 89-RBI season, he is expected to be targeted by the Cubs, who could reunite him with Rudy Jaramillo, his hitting coach from the Rangers.

    Xavier Nady, free agent: The Braves tried to acquire him when he was with the Pirates, but Nady is more of a complementary type than a middle-of-the-order threat, and is coming off his second Tommy John surgery.

    Mike Cameron, free agent: Lives in Atlanta, wants to play in Atlanta, but is not high on the Braves’ list of priorities.

    Dan Uggla, Marlins. Like the Red Sox, the Braves have pondered the idea of trading for the second baseman and playing him in left field.

    David DeJesus, Royals: Not right-handed and not a slugger, but a player the Braves have liked in the past.

    I’ll say this much… Rosenthal pulls alot of stuff from his nether regions. I take most of what he writes with a grain of salt.

    So, that said…

    I’ll be surprised if the Braves look at Nady, and especially DeJesus, unless they swing a surprise deal for a bopper at 1B beforehand. I think they may kick the tires on Byrd, but the Rangers will almost certainly keep him. Cameron? I like him, but I think he may fall into the same category as Nady. Uggla? The Marlins simply won’t trade him within the division without a premium in return. Frank won’t do that.

    I’ll predict that none of those names appear on the back of a Braves jersey in 2010. Well… maybe Cameron. But I doubt it.


  376. 395 Carolina Lady November 12, 2009 at 9:51 am

    Take your blood pressure pills before reading this story:




  377. 396 Voice of Raisins November 12, 2009 at 10:00 am

    Huddy deal is official. 10:30am conference scheduled.


  378. 397 Carolina Lady November 12, 2009 at 10:02 am

    “CL, did you know that a gunshot was fired inside his house about a month ago????”

    WHO, Ber?


  379. 398 Carolina Lady November 12, 2009 at 10:02 am

    Glad it’s done, V! (Huddy)


  380. 399 Voice of Raisins November 12, 2009 at 10:06 am

    Mr. O’Brien seems to think that the Uggla in LF idea is a real possibility.

    That intrigues me. Really. I’ll have to let it stew a while before spewing a few paragraphs of inane opinion about it…


  381. 400 berigan2electricboogaloo November 12, 2009 at 11:59 am

    Who???? Lou! Dobbs that is. Shouldn’t kid about something like that but thank God no one was hurt. He has done so many stories on Mexican drug dealers(did you all know that over 7000 people were killed by Drug dealers…and that was as of January of this year??? Like two 9-11’s for them.

    They have killed many, many folks in government, so I am sure a TV personality would not be a concern to them. Though he is still doing his radio show.


  382. 401 Voice of Raisins November 12, 2009 at 12:02 pm

    Apparently the details of Huddy’s contract are not yet public, but both beat writers say it’s basically 3 years/~$27MM, with a 4th year option. Not clear on who holds the option. Also not clear on if it’s a straight $9MM per, or if there is any differentiation (FOB?).

    It certainly now puts the Braves in a very firm trading position having 6 bona fide starters under contractual control.

    The proverbial cat bird’s seat? Maybe. Nothing is typical in these odd economic times.

    BTW – Still stirring the Uggla pot…


  383. 402 Carolina Lady November 12, 2009 at 12:02 pm

    Raisins, your thoughts on Uggla+Braves sounds like a perfect lead!


  384. 403 berigan2electricboogaloo November 12, 2009 at 12:09 pm

    CL, and Gil….you all still getting the rain we got??? My oh my, does our yard look terrible.

    V, I think MLB trade rumors had a story about Uggla playing left or 3rd for other teams…Saw it yesterday. Hmm, why not dig it up then B??? Alll right I will!

    Ok…not on page one. 2nd page.

    Giants, Orioles Pursuing Dan Uggla
    By Tim Dierkes [November 11 at 3:04pm CST]

    3:04pm: MLB.com’s Joe Frisaro believes the Nationals will also show interest in Uggla.

    1:19pm: The Giants and Orioles are showing the most interest in Dan Uggla, according to Ken Rosenthal and Jon Paul Morosi of FOX Sports. Those clubs would move Uggla to third base, a position he hasn’t played since 2005 in the minors. The writers add that the Red Sox have inquired, with an eye on using Uggla in left field. Uggla played 20 games in the outfield in Double A in ’04. Rosenthal and Morosi add that an Uggla trade would compel the Marlins to retain Jorge Cantu.


  385. 404 Voice of Raisins November 12, 2009 at 12:10 pm

    your thoughts on Uggla+Braves sounds like a perfect lead!


    They were about to be succinct. Steeped in brevity.

    You mean I have to expand?

    It was basically gonna be, “OK, I’ll take 30 HR’s in LF, and I’ll take NOT having to pitch to him throughout the season, as long as the package centers on KJ, JoJo and some other mid-level pitching prospect.”

    Maybe I should pick a different topic?


  386. 405 Voice of Raisins November 12, 2009 at 12:12 pm

    Actually, Uggla has played no other position than 2B in the majors.

    He has, though, logged innings at 1B, 3B and LF in the minors. Less in LF than the others…


  387. 406 berigan2electricboogaloo November 12, 2009 at 12:19 pm

    CL, about that story…..GRRRRRRR 😡


  388. 407 Voice of Raisins November 12, 2009 at 12:21 pm

    Hmmm… just thinking out loud here…

    The Braves had notions toward Nick Swisher last year. The Yankees took him instead.

    The Yanks have been mentioned as possibly interested in Derek Lowe.

    Swisher, while not the classic bopper, would still give you 25+ HR’s, and could play either OF or 1B, giving the Braves more flexibility in their search for power.



  389. 408 Voice of Raisins November 12, 2009 at 12:25 pm

    Final brief thought on the Uggla matter… I don’t see the Braves trading much from their farm system – certainly not any of the real quality. Their trades this off season will be from the surplus of starters, and possibly of KJ. The Marlins will demand top prospects.

    That’s really it, IMO.

    If they fill their OF, 1B or ‘pen needs through trade, it;ll have to be from Lowe/KK/JV.

    The rest will come from a relatively thin FA market.


  390. 409 Carolina Lady November 12, 2009 at 12:31 pm

    You’re getting there, V! Why not take the Uggla/Swisher/whoeveryouthink and run with it?

    Or whatever strikes your fancy!


    Ber, got right at 4″ of rain yesterday. Just a misty rain today but it is definitely a blustery day in the Hundred Acre Wood!


  391. 410 Voice of Raisins November 12, 2009 at 12:36 pm

    Oh, and CL…

    I’ve said it before, I’ll say it again:

    Our overboard obsession with PC and “sensitivity” will be our downfall. Maybe one day one of the “brass” will show some brass, but I’m not holding my breath.

    We have systematically raised a generation of over-sensitive wimps and wusses.

    Wither True Grit? Nowadays it’s Twilight. Need I say more?


  392. 411 Gil in Mechanicsville November 12, 2009 at 12:43 pm

    Actually, Uggla could play any position about as well as he plays second base which is nothing to write home about… He sure isn’t noted for his stellar glove work.

    It is amazing that the guys across the street keep clamoring for the the Braves to trade our dregs for another team’s top talent… I’ll bet they are the same folks who will pay full sticker price for a new car… Or worse, a used one….

    Anywho, I feel awful… I think I might be coming down with something. It started last night with an upset stomach and it has progressed to just aching all over. Drat… I’ve had my distemper shots and everything too….

    Ber, would you please e-mail me a return e-mail address for you that actually works. I have a neat site my brother sent to me that I think you would enjoy.

    Okay, I think I will go feel sorry for myself somewhere…. Sniff …


  393. 412 berigan2electricboogaloo November 12, 2009 at 2:30 pm

    Gil, about the CMA…was the African American guy Darius Rucker??? He was actually in the early 90’s band(thought it was the 80s, but I was wrong) Hootie and the Blowfish, which while pop, really had a country sound.
    Like in this song, Hold My Hand.

    But, you may be talking about 50 Cent or somethin’ being on the show…just don’t know. But I did hear Darius won best new Artist.


  394. 413 berigan2electricboogaloo November 12, 2009 at 2:38 pm

    Oh, I forgot. Gil, sorry you are not feeling well!
    Here is my other email (Ber, you know better than to post your email on a BLOG!!! If I can find the key, you get one hour in the doghouse! love, CL) Its the free one I have had for years. I love the spam I get there, perhaps now I will get even more! 😉
    the one we get from that teeny tiny company AT&T. Well, that one doesn’t work so hot. Since they change the email from att.net to bellsouth.net. They never have been able to fix it. Well, it worked correctly for a few months, then it started to do that trick.


  395. 414 Voice of Raisins November 12, 2009 at 3:00 pm



  396. 415 Voice of Raisins November 12, 2009 at 3:31 pm

    SI.com’s Jon Heyman:

    Reliever Mike Gonzalez appears very popular in the free-agent market. There are loads of bullpen options, but he can set up, he can close and he’s left-handed, making him about the most desirable of the lot.

    Come home, Mikey, come home…


  397. 416 berigan2electricboogaloo November 12, 2009 at 4:06 pm

    Mikey come home! 😉
    CL, I done tol you thats my other, spam laden email account! Perhaps one of those nice Nigerian chaps will make an offer to me to take millions of dollars off his hands! 😛


  398. 417 Gil in Mechanicsville November 12, 2009 at 5:03 pm

    Ber, I can’t ever get mail thru to you so here is link I was trying to send to you.



  399. 418 Carolina Lady November 12, 2009 at 5:08 pm

    Ber, this is an order:

    Go here: https://www.google.com/

    Go to: Gmail

    and open a new account. Free, simple, easy – and for friends only.

    Thank you!

    This has been a public service announcement.

    I now return you to your regularly scheduled programming!



  400. 419 Gil in Mechanicsville November 12, 2009 at 6:30 pm

    Well, feeling better after a nap and some concoction served up by Miss Josie, I am not sure what was in it but I know better than to ask too many questions.

    The wind is not too strong right now but I know we lost a couple of trees today. I can’t see them from the house but I know they fell because we felt the house shake when they ht the ground. Thank goodness for the tractor. I had a couple of big ones fall across our trail behind the house a month ago and nothing like a front end loader to make short work of moving them. Best investment I made after moving here.

    “When the wind blows for the east, the weather is not fit for man nor beast”….

    And baseball… Games started yet?

    I really would like to attend some spring training games this year but I am cheap. I don’t think I should have to pay major league prices to watch minor league players. If I wanted to do that I could drive up to DC to watch the Nationals play….


  401. 420 Carolina Lady November 12, 2009 at 6:34 pm

    “If I wanted to do that I could drive up to DC to watch the Nationals play….” 😆 😆


  402. 421 Carolina Lady November 12, 2009 at 6:52 pm

    from email: (credit Ber)

    The economy is so bad…

    That I got a pre-declined credit card in the mail.

    I ordered a burger at McDonalds and the kid behind the counter asked, “Can you afford fries with that?”

    If the bank returns your check marked “Insufficient Funds,” you call them and ask if they meant you or them.

    Hot Wheels and Matchbox stocks are trading higher than GM.

    Parents in Beverly Hills fired their nannies and learned their children’s names.

    A truckload of Americans was caught sneaking into Mexico.

    Dick Cheney took his stockbroker hunting.

    Motel Six won’t leave the light on anymore.

    The Mafia is laying off judges.

    Exxon-Mobil laid off 25 Congressmen.

    And finally…

    Congress says they are looking into this Bernard Madoff scandal. Oh Great!! The guy who made $50 Billion disappear is being investigated by the people who made $1.5 Trillion disappear!


  403. 422 flbravesgirl November 12, 2009 at 10:15 pm

    Hope you feel better soon, Gil!

    I doubt he meant Darius, Ber, he never did anything remotely like rap. Always liked Hootie & the Blowfish myself. IIRC they’re from SC. Clemson maybe?


  404. 423 berigan2electricboogaloo November 13, 2009 at 6:13 am

    Gil, great link! My Dad will love that! Will take some time to go through for sure. He actually has some Buick brochures from 1940. One thats like a book.


  405. 424 Gil in Mechanicsville November 13, 2009 at 7:17 am

    Ber, my oldest car was a ’50 Plymouth. It was one of those 55 MPH cars. You know, the ones that say “cut it out” when you go 56… One of the best driving cars I ever owned but absolutely hated rain. It would leave me stranded if a rain cloud appeared in the sky or a dog whizzed on the tire.

    It was in desperate need of a ring job. For the life of me, I cannot remember what happened to that car now. I think I may have traded it for an eight track tape player….

    Actually feeling better this morning. If it will ever stop raining I am sure my mood will improve even more. All this water is depressing. The dogs keep looking at me like it’s my fault….


  406. 425 Voice of Raisins November 13, 2009 at 7:55 am

    McCann wins third Silver Slugger in four years


    Congrats, Mac!


  407. 426 Voice of Raisins November 13, 2009 at 11:03 am

    Just read that the Angels are talking to Detroit about Curtis Granderson, and would likely move Juan Rivera if the trade materialized.

    Juan Rivera? We talked alot about him last year.

    Let’s take a quick peak at his ’09 numbers:

    .287/.332/.478, 25 HR’s, 88 RBI

    Maybe they could use Lowe to replace Lackey?

    OK, I’m dreaming again… too many moving parts.


  408. 427 Gil in Mechanicsville November 13, 2009 at 11:28 am

    Yes Rasins, the Lowe for Rivera trade would make too much sense for too many people… After all, it’s baseball. Why make a good trade when you can swing a Len Barker for two all-stars type deal….

    Uh, you folks should realize that I have been conditioned to think owners like the Deadskin’s Dan Snyder is a better judge of talent that say a Joe Gibbs… Let’s see now, how many coaches have the “Skins had now since the Snyder Era?

    Sigh… it’s raining again… We had a brief respite and I got all excited and got dressed to go to the store… Bah…. No wonder all those folks in the Northwest are suicidal….


  409. 428 Carolina Lady November 13, 2009 at 11:40 am

    This will cheer you up, Gil!



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