99: Flippin’ The Calendar

By Voice of Reason Raisins

Jefferson, GA (i.e. God’s country) – Yeah, I know we’re in the middle of an exciting and tight pennant race here in 2010, but I have 2011 on my mind.  It’s coming whether we have a Championship season or not.

So, here are my top 10 questions for 2011…

Freddie Gonzalez

#1:  Is there any covert agreement in place with Fredi, or are the reports true in that the Braves have given him no indication at all that he’s a candidate to manage here next season? Is Fredi really even the best candidate to replace Bobby? If not, who is? What about the current coaches? Clean house, or keep some/all? Who?

Rockin' Leo

#2: Very much related to #1… Leo has made absolutely no bones about his desire to return to the Braves as pitching coach. He also has indirectly been somewhat critical of how some of the pitchers are handled, and of some of the pitching philosophies being taught. Could we see Leo part 2? Fredi was here with Leo, not Roger…

#3: What about Omar? If Chipper returns, which he seems bent on doing, Martin goes back to 2B. What then of Omar. In my mind, he has established himself as an everyday player and as a top notch leadoff hitter. Where does he play? SS? Would Frank let Gonzo’s option go and make Omar the everyday SS? Maybe he could be our everyday LF. (I contend that Omar’s versatility will give Frank more offseason options than just locking in on one specific position.)

#4: This really isn’t a question, more of an assertion. Frank has to fix CF. Ankiel is a nice defensive guy, but not a starter for a contender. Melky is not an option (maybe a non-tender option, but not a starting option) and Schafer has a long, long road back. This may be Frank’s toughest offseason job next to hiring a manager (which ought to be easier than it appears.) Who’s available?

Nate McLouth

#5: What to do with Nate? He makes too much $$$ to just DFA. Nobody will take his contract from us. What do we do with him? This is a tough one…
#6: Non-tenders:   Diaz? Melky? Both are real possibilities, especially if we have to sit on Nate’s salary. I won’t be surprised to see both non-tendered, and a youngster (read: major league minimum salary player) kept as 4th outfielder. Maybe Brent Clevlen or Matt Young. Maybe Willie Cabrera. (http://web.minorleaguebaseball.com/milb/stats/stats.jsp?pos=&sid=t431&t=p_pbp&pid=488757 )

#7: And what of KK? He won’t be in the 2011 rotation plans, so can he be traded? I think he really needs to pitch well for us in the next 4 weeks to redeem his value. He only has one year left on his deal, and it isn’t terribly unreasonable in the current inflated salary environment. Did I mention that he really needs to pitch well over the next few weeks?

Jonny Venters

#8: Who closes? Kimbrell? He was the heir apparent early in the season. That is until Venters came from nowhere and impressed everyone, including current door-slammer Wagsy. Wags says Venters has the best stuff on the staff. The whole staff. That’s some pretty stout words. Bobby has never felt really comfortable handing closer duties over to a youngster, but then again Bobby won’t be here, will he?

#9:  Who’s the next star in the pipeline to keep our eye on? It was Hanson for 2009, then

Matt Lipka

Heyward for 2010, and now Freeman seemingly taking over at 1B in 2011. So, who is the next one to watch? Is it just one, or the troika (first on blog?) of Aroydis Vizcaino, Julio Teheran and Randall Delgado? We know they’re coming, and we’re all licking our chops over this new wave of talented tossers.  But what about position players? Maybe it’s young SS prospect Matt Lipka. You remember him, right? This year’s top pick… speedster… He had a stellar rookie season in the GCL, and was rewarded with a post-GCL promotion to Danville for their playoff run. He finished his inaugural pro campaign with a slash line of .296/.353/.392 with 34 R, 8 2B, 4 3B, 1 HR, 24 RBI, 22 K, 21/24 SB. You see the last part? 21 steals in 24 attempts. Also, notice he had only 22 K’s in almost 200 AB’s. He’s a few years away, but he looks like a good’un for sure. I’ll be keeping my eyes on him. Did I mention 21 out of 24?

#10: How will the Braves respond after fending off the Phillies, Padres, Reds, and Rays and winning it all in true Hollywood fashion to send HOF’er Bobby Cox into the sunset with his 2nd World Series title? (OK, maybe this part is a bit presumptuous, but it’s my list, so there…)


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Leo with Glavine, Avery, Mercker, Maddux & Smoltz

Editor’s Note:  Found this photo and just had to insert it for old times’ sake.

Were they truly that young??

691 Responses to “99: Flippin’ The Calendar”

  1. 1 Carolina Lady September 2, 2010 at 8:45 pm

    Terrific, Raisins! Spot on, as always!! Our thanks, friend!


  2. 2 flbravesgirl September 2, 2010 at 10:20 pm

    I certainly don’t have all the answers but… I have to believe Fredi figures into the managerial picture. He’s an obvious choice & he’s been laying awfully low since the Fish dumped him.

    I enjoyed Leo when he was here but it seems he’s not always the best fit with youngsters & we have a lot of those here/ on the way. I think Roger’s done a good job with the staff, I’d leave him in place.

    Omar deserves to play everyday. Not sure where, SS is OK with me since I’m not wowed by Gonzo.


  3. 3 chrisklob September 2, 2010 at 10:28 pm

    Raisins, excellent job. You have raised 10 very important questions relating to the success of the ’11 Braves. I don’t think I have the mental capacity to give any of them any real consideration at this point. Frankly, I’m just happy that the Braves have been playing as well as they have. Of course, I’d be a whole lot happier if the Phollies would lose a game or two.

    Tough night tonight. Huddy made a couple of mistakes at the wrong time. Is it my imagination (read: i’m too lazy to look it up) but does it seem as though there have been a LOT more errors than normal?

    With regard to your questions, I think that Omar has proven himself to be an everyday player. Does that mean he can’t play a different position every night? I think he’s played about six spots this year. There is something to be said for being a jack of all trades, especially when you wield a stick like he has.


  4. 4 Carolina Lady September 2, 2010 at 11:29 pm

    Just throwing this out as a random thought: Rudy Jarmillo as manager. Why or why not?

    Ned Yost? I don’t think so. Just a feeling.

    For some reason, Jarmillo intrigues me as a (remote) possibility.

    What are Freddie’s strong and weak points?

    😆 I don’t have any answers but I can ask a lot of questions! 😆


  5. 5 Voice of Raisins September 3, 2010 at 9:00 am

    Thanks, y’all.

    Yep, weird… ain’t it? As much as we look set for some fun seasons to come, there are alot of questions heading into next season.

    I think FBG is right that there must be something working… either that or Fredi has entered the Witness Protection Program.

    And I, too, believe Roger has done a pretty good job. Leo is the epitome of “old school” and cringes at much of the newer conventional wisdom. He’s a hoot to listen to on the radio.

    I read just yesterday that Frank says he’s going into the offseason fully expecting Chipper back at 3B next season, simply because Chipper says he’s going to be there. I suppose with the rehab time for his surgery coinciding with the start of Spring Training, there should be no reason to doubt it’ll happen. In fact, a positive by-product may be that Chipper enters spring in the best shape he has in years due to his rehab.

    Would an IF of Chipper (healthy, of course), Omar, Martin and Freddie hurt anybody’s feelings? Not mine…


  6. 6 Voice of Raisins September 3, 2010 at 9:52 am

    Friggin’ Rockies… 😡


  7. 7 Gil in Mechanicsville September 3, 2010 at 10:04 am

    Another stellar lead Raisins. Just too many variables for me to process right now.

    Yes, way too many errors this year.


  8. 8 Gil in Mechanicsville September 3, 2010 at 2:35 pm

    Okay, who will be left for the Braves to play this weekend? So many suspension, so few players.

    Maybe the next time the Marlins play the Nats, they should only allow 8 players on a side, like they do in hockey, short handed until someone scores… hey, that could be interesting….


  9. 9 Voice of Raisins September 3, 2010 at 4:56 pm

    2night’s lineup:

    1. Omar, 2B
    2. HeyHey, RF
    3. Martini, 3B
    4. DLee, 1B
    5. MattyD, LF
    6. Gonzo, SS
    7. Ross-y, C
    8. Ankle, CF
    9. KK, P


  10. 10 Gil in Mechanicsville September 3, 2010 at 6:01 pm

    Looking for a good game out of Kershin tonight, time to put the lid on this thing.


  11. 11 chrisklob September 3, 2010 at 8:05 pm

    Mr. Gil, I think you might need to keep looking. Doesn’t seem like his time at Gwinnett did much for KK.


  12. 12 berigan2electricboogaloo September 3, 2010 at 9:51 pm

    Excellent lead V man! A bit much for me to digest, will need some time…did y’all hear that Fredi was talked about as a possiblity for the Cubs job, several days ago??? I sure hope the Braves didn’t assume anything with Freddie…..

    Chris, I bought up a little while ago how mediocre the braves D had been this year…baseball tonight was showing the error totals of other teams, and I looked at the braves totals…yuck.

    Ah, here it is on the last blog…

    Watching several baseball tonights while riding my stationary bike(Dopes didn’t even mention it was Mike Minor’s first start!I know consider Karl Ravack’s(sp)group the B team) I saw the number of errors a few teams like the Reds have made (44) vs. the Cards, (72)….how many have the Braves made??? 84, 4th most in baseball. Ugh…only the Marlins, Cubs and Nats have made more.
    You will notice that most of the teams with the fewest errors are in the playoff hunt.


  13. 13 berigan2electricboogaloo September 3, 2010 at 9:53 pm

    Wow…didn’t click on the link before posting…now the braves have made the 3rd most errors in baseball! 😯


  14. 14 chrisklob September 3, 2010 at 10:11 pm

    those are some ugly numbers. ’bout as ugly as KK’s numbers.


  15. 15 chrisklob September 3, 2010 at 10:52 pm

    “That was the worst ball game I’ve seen him pitch”, Bobby Cox on tonight’s “effort” by KK.

    That’s saying a LOT considering that he’s stunk pretty much most of the year.

    Of course, we can always look at the bright side. He did have a rbi. That’s one more than any other Brave tonight.


  16. 16 chrisklob September 3, 2010 at 10:55 pm

    There’s been a Mike Hampton sighting:


    Say what you want about Mike Hampton. Man of Glass, Mr. Fragile, whatever. You can’t doubt his heart. He doesn’t need the money, as any Braves fan can tell you.


  17. 17 Gil in Mechanicsville September 4, 2010 at 12:10 am

    At some point you just have to admit that you made a bad buy.

    Yep, Kershin stunk up the place like a bowl of two day old sushi. It may well be next year before a Braves manager calls on him to pitch. That is, if the Frank and company haven’t traded him for a bag of balls to the independent league with the Braves paying all of his salary. Nope, I think the KK era might just be done. When Bobby Cox throws you under the bus, you may as well stay dead.


  18. 18 Carolina Lady September 4, 2010 at 3:08 am

    They need to sew pictures of lemons all over his uniform.

    Chris, interesting article on Mike. He just won’t give up! Gotta admire him for that. Only 46 starts in 6 seasons. I can hardly believe he’s going to try again. Or that a team has actually signed him! 🙄


  19. 19 Gil in Mechanicsville September 4, 2010 at 5:59 am

    As for Hampton, he sure can’t be any worse than Kamikaze…


  20. 20 Voice of Raisins September 4, 2010 at 8:57 am

    When Bobby Cox throws you under the bus, you may as well stay dead.

    You got that right. You just about have to be Charles Manson for Bobby to say anything negative about you…


  21. 21 berigan2electricboogaloo September 4, 2010 at 10:52 am

    Well, good for Mike Hampton! I also recall hearing he wouldn’t pitch this year, so he proved some folks wrong.

    Now, about KK. I missed the game, or at least the part he was in….all I know is after making the best start of the season on the 26th of June, (7 innings, 2 hits, one run) he went to the bullpen. He then didn’t pitch for 20 days! How would you feel at that point??? Like you really weren’t necessary??
    That was not smart on Bobby’s part. You have 25 men on a roster, use them, send them down(I imagine he had to agree to it) or release them. But, you can’t expect someone to be the least bit effective if you don’t have them play at the bare minimum of once a week.
    You wouldn’t have a guy off the DL pitch in the majors after a 20 day layoff, would you?
    Look, he ain’t my brother, my best friend, nothing like that….but I have seen him be effective in the past…and something tells me Lowe isn’t going to be able to make 5-6 starts this month…who else is left??? Is anyone more or less ready in the minors of the very young guys?(Really don’t know, there might be innings issues)


  22. 22 Voice of Raisins September 4, 2010 at 11:12 am

    Lowe will be fine. The cortisone shot will patch him up for the remainder of 2010.

    I was listening to Leo Mazzone on the radio this week, and he said that we’d all be surprised how many times Tom Glavine had a cortisone shot in the same area of his elbow as Lowe. Not just a time or 2, but many. But that was the philosophy under Leo: “Go to the post.” They did everything within the letter of the law to make their starts, and lo and behold, 3 of ’em are going to the HOF.

    I think I have to side with Leo on this one…


  23. 23 Gil in Mechanicsville September 4, 2010 at 11:32 am

    On the “letter of the law” … Steroids are a very effective tool for quick healing but like any other drug that is abused, The powers that be always take the easy way out and ban everything. Persoanally, I wish I had gone the cortisone PRN instead of the surgery, I likely would still be working everyday.

    Well, after fighting an algae bloom in the pool for the past three weeks, I think it is finally under control. Every year about this time, it gets away form us and it seems we spend a month trying to get the pool fit for human use. Another classic example of “well, it seemed a good idea at the time” purchase.

    CL, glad you did not get anything worse than a freshet from Earl. As per usual, the weather is absolutely beautiful here today.


  24. 24 Gil in Mechanicsville September 4, 2010 at 11:42 am

    One last shot at KK…. I have been a supporter of Kershin but last night I think ripped it. H is supposed to be a professional. He is getting paid $7 million dollars whether he pitches in Atlanta or not. Drop the attitude if that is the problem and earn your money. This is America, saving face is not as important as saving your a$$. Frenchy found out that whining only got him traded. Too bad we can’t do the same with KK.

    Being a Union guy, I had to represent a lot of slackards because that was my job. Didn’t mean I did not read the riot act to a bunch of guys because they were playing the system.

    If Kershin has an injury, fess up, if not, fess up. he either was not that good to begin with or something is wrong. Garbage in, garbage out comes to mind here. Bad information is ten times worse than no information.


  25. 25 eprisewildcat September 4, 2010 at 3:59 pm

    Home from golf today, ready to watch some football, and of course Angie’s battery is dead in her Murano. Japanese puzzle to get the battery out. Man over machine baby!

    Me thinks that KK needs to go down to AutoZone and get his battery tested! His is DEAD!!!

    Need a great effort by JJ tonight to get the Braves train back on the tracks. I’m taking my grandaughter Sydney to the TROY football game tonight against Bowling Green. Should be a good game. Weather is nice but still a bit hot. Not as humid so once the sun goes down it should be great!



  26. 26 berigan2electricboogaloo September 4, 2010 at 5:14 pm

    Hadn’t gone to the AJC in awhile…Bone chip for Lowe…lodged in the joint, that can’t be good, but he says he will try to pitch thru it…


  27. 27 berigan2electricboogaloo September 4, 2010 at 5:25 pm

    Well, like I said, I didn’t see KK pitch, just “highlights” of the Marlins, and I saw two lefties hit low inside pitches(A lefties fav place for a ball to be of course) but you all may have picked up on some body language thing I won’t see in the box scores….

    Ugh, college football. The sports world ends. Half hour baseball tonights on at midnight or later…right now, there is no sportscenter, or ESPN news, just college games and college football highlights…how come the sports world doesn’t turn into a 24/7 baseball world in early April, or come playoff time????

    No MLB channel on DISH, Gil you have it on Direct TV, correct??? They even talk baseball in December, right???
    Man, I think we need to get Direct, if that’s the case….


  28. 28 Gil in Mechanicsville September 4, 2010 at 6:31 pm

    Let me know if ya’ll decide to change Ber, we can both get a $100..

    I have had all three, Dish, Comcast and DirecTV. I like DirecTV the best. Actually, I have both Direct and Comcast at the same time right now. hey, it’s free so why not?

    Yep, can watch more baseball than I can stand.

    Ber, you would not even have to pay the extra $180 a year because the Braves are local for you.

    Wildcat, I love college football. Hate the pro game though.

    We’ve got a passel of folks coming over tomorrow. last cookout of the summer. I told Josie that I might try to get some fishing in this week. The weather is supposed to be very fall like this week.


  29. 29 Voice of Raisins September 4, 2010 at 9:34 pm

    Is that Eric Gregg behind the plate in Miami again?


  30. 30 Voice of Raisins September 4, 2010 at 9:47 pm


    The Braves may pursue their top candidate — believed to be recently fired Marlins skipper Fredi Gonzalez — prior to the end of Bobby Cox’s tenure. If the Braves make a deep playoff run, they may look to lock down Gonzalez before other teams, such as the Cubs, can get their hands on him.

    We see it, Rosey sees it… surely Frank sees it.


  31. 31 flbravesgirl September 4, 2010 at 10:17 pm

    Excellent outing by JJ tonight despite Eddings’ worst efforts. Did we get any help from the Brewers?


  32. 32 Gil in Mechanicsville September 4, 2010 at 10:45 pm

    That was one of the longer 2hr and 39 min games I ever watched… Not sure why it seemed to drag out but it did. Nice outing by Jair. Had me worried a bit in the first but seemed to settle down by the third inning.

    Now, we need Minor to step up and fry some fish Sunday.


  33. 33 berigan2electricboogaloo September 5, 2010 at 5:18 am

    FBG, alas we did not…..I was at a car cruise last night (since it finally isn’t sweltering ) and missed the game…I’ve missed a lot of games this week, not that much season left…I may need to start tivo’ing games….


  34. 34 Gil in Mechanicsville September 5, 2010 at 10:56 am

    Wow, beautiful day. We have the clan coming over for an end of the summer cookout today. Hope the folks don’t mind my watching the ballgame.


  35. 35 Gil in Mechanicsville September 5, 2010 at 1:55 pm

    Yea… Rain delay, just what the doctor ordered for the Braves if you ask me, and Fielder with a 3 run blast in the first against the Fillies…


  36. 36 chrisklob September 5, 2010 at 2:31 pm

    Nate McClouth got ROBBED!!!


  37. 37 Gil in Mechanicsville September 5, 2010 at 5:14 pm


    Oh well, let’s hope the Fish can work on the Phillies.


  38. 38 Gil in Mechanicsville September 5, 2010 at 5:58 pm

    So, Philly and Braves both lose, Braves head to Pittsburgh, Marlins to the City of Bro.. well, you know…

    Typical outing for the rookie today, Too many pitches left up and fat.


  39. 39 Gil in Mechanicsville September 6, 2010 at 9:28 am

    Good morning all, whew, rough sports day for me, Braves lost, Denny blew an engine and, well, I’m sure something else happened of which I am not aware…

    T’was a big crowd which descended yesterday. Funny how so many folks can show up at a moment’s notice. Anyway, all left full and with mixed emotions as school begins today for all the grandkids.


  40. 40 Voice of Raisins September 6, 2010 at 9:32 am

    Yep… young Mr. Minor was due for that kind of start. And while it’s OK for him to have that outing, the team can’t afford to let up right now.

    Speaking of pitchers, DLowe says he’s gonna make his next start on Wednesday. Bobby and Frank, however, aren’t placing all of their eggs on his basket. The plans are to let Brandon Beachy make his ML debut if DLowe can’t go to the post. Is anyone surprised that in they’ll call on a youngster with zero ML experience rather than go to the Kawakami well again? Uh, not me. The KK days are done. I’m not one to kick a guy when he’s down, but I think his answers after last week’s meltdown give a good indication why he has struggled so mightily. Excuses don’t fly in The Show, and his certainly don’t fly with Bobby. Bobby is a player’s manager. When he buries you deep on a bench, there’s a reason.


  41. 41 Voice of Raisins September 6, 2010 at 9:37 am

    Ber, afternoon start today. 1:30 I believe.

    Thanks, MLB, for giving us the extra series with the Pirates this season. Now, we need to take advantage of it. Is it wrong to say we really need to get the sweep to cap this roadie? Well, let me just say we need to take care of business. We are a 90+ win team, they are a 90+ loss team. ‘Nuff said.

    Oh, I think I am correct to say that Phillie has 2 with the Fish today? I think that’s right. C’mon, Fish… make it a twin killing. Play them Philthie boys as hard as you played us, OK?


  42. 42 Voice of Raisins September 6, 2010 at 9:38 am

    School beginning after Labor Day… what a concept. School started back for us on August 2. 😐


  43. 43 Gil in Mechanicsville September 6, 2010 at 2:10 pm

    Always been the day after Labor Day here for the first day of school as long as I can remember. Last day of school always around the 10 of June.

    So, the Pirates score a run in the first without the benefit of a hit, the Braves load the bases with no outs and only score one… Blah….

    Tommy is not fooling anyone today.


  44. 44 berigan2electricboogaloo September 6, 2010 at 3:13 pm

    Gil, they changed it up several years ago around here….some kids were back in school Aug the 2nd!!! Yuck!


  45. 45 Voice of Raisins September 6, 2010 at 4:41 pm

    Wasted opportunities – both in the micro and in the macro. Shoulda won the game; shoulda gained a game in the standings. Ticks me off… 😡


  46. 46 Gil in Mechanicsville September 6, 2010 at 6:48 pm



  47. 47 berigan2electricboogaloo September 6, 2010 at 7:31 pm



  48. 48 eprisewildcat September 6, 2010 at 8:57 pm

    Very unfortunate loss to the Pirates today! Like you said Raisins… we’re a 90 win team and they are a 90 loss team. We just cannot capitalize on opportunities. Very frustrating!

    Speaking of being frustrated have you guys turned on the Boise State vs. Va Tech game? Well Nike is showing off their commercial power by totally redesigning the Hokies uniforms. The Halloween colored uniforms that Frank Beamer led his team out in are an embarrassment. I don’t care how you attempt to justify Nike’s intent they are marketing their Nike Combat line of football equipment. The Hokie faithful and supporters should be outraged. So much for tradition. Double Yuk!!!

    So far Boise State is laying the wood to the Hokies. Ha!

    GO BRAVES!!!


  49. 49 Gil in Mechanicsville September 6, 2010 at 9:02 pm

    Yeah Wildcat, just adds to my tri-fecta of misery this week end…


  50. 50 Gil in Mechanicsville September 6, 2010 at 9:04 pm

    A guy could make a pretty good living betting on teams that I like by betting for them to lose. Just saying…


  51. 51 berigan2electricboogaloo September 6, 2010 at 10:41 pm

    Well, the Phils won game two, so we are in a 1st place tie…don’t like that one bit….they are full of confidence right now….


  52. 52 Voice of Raisins September 6, 2010 at 11:08 pm

    1st place tie? Should still be up by 1/2 game. Pretty dang slim, but still in 1st.


  53. 53 chrisklob September 7, 2010 at 12:19 am

    yes, the braves have the slimmest of leads. one measly half game over the philthies. ugh.

    why does this team struggle against inferior teams? they seem to do pretty well against good teams but the weak ones seem to prey on them. what are they missing in their gut to make them lose to the losers?


  54. 54 Gil in Mechanicsville September 7, 2010 at 5:30 am

    EWC.. man, you were right about the VT uniforms… YUK!!!

    Yes, time for the Braves to right the ship before it slips under. Very frustrating offensive team. Or should that be “lack of” offense team?


  55. 55 Voice of Raisins September 7, 2010 at 7:45 am

    I had a house full of people yesterday, and screamed violently when Prado tapped to 3rd with the base loaded. I had people looking at me like this –> 😯

    They just don’t understand… 😐


  56. 56 Voice of Raisins September 7, 2010 at 7:46 am

    Gee… that woulda looked better if my spacing had cooperated…

    More like:

    I had people looking at me like this -–> 😯


  57. 57 Voice of Raisins September 7, 2010 at 7:46 am

    Yep. Better.


  58. 58 berigan2electricboogaloo September 7, 2010 at 7:54 am

    That is really weird….I thought the only way the Phils could go into first was to sweep the D.H. but I checked espn and saw both teams had the same record and a.572 winning percentage….now it shows .572 for us, .568 for them, and that they have one more loss than we do. Stoopid ESPN site! :X


  59. 59 berigan2electricboogaloo September 7, 2010 at 9:12 am

    Drat. Don’t do :X enough to remember it needs to be a capital X.

    I also remembered I checked the wildcard standings, curious to see what the competition there looked like, and saw we were at the top, and the Giants 2 behind. I couldn’t figure out why we and the Phils weren’t listed there in a tie…now the Phils are top in the wildcard charts…some Philthy phan phunning us?


  60. 60 berigan2electricboogaloo September 7, 2010 at 9:13 am

    D’oh small x, man…I’m still sleepy I guess…


  61. 61 Voice of Raisins September 7, 2010 at 9:35 am

    ESPN is a joke. It started out as a sports fan’s paradise, but is now just a typical media conglomerate clamoring for the large media markets and blowing the rest of us off. If you’re in NY, Boston, Philly, Chicago, or LA, then you’ve got a full service outlet for your consumption. The rest of us are just step-children in their eyes.

    As I understand it, for a while yesterday, they did have Philly listed in 1st place with the Braves cast off into the Wild Card mix. Typical short-sighted non-informed sheep simply pushing a few buttons with no idea what they’re doing. Actually, sounds alot like Congress.


  62. 62 chrisklob September 7, 2010 at 10:16 am

    Well said, Raisins. I don’t go there much any more. Too football oriented for my liking. I once ran across a website that was dedicated to showing off the mistakes that ESPeoN made across all of their products (tv, radio, internet, etc). That was an absolute riot! You’d think that the “worldwide leader in sports” would have a system to prevent a lot of those mistakes but obviously not.


  63. 63 flbravesgirl September 7, 2010 at 4:24 pm

    Just popping in quickly to let y’all know that Mac is the Braves nominee for the Roberto Clemente Award. We can vote, which I don’t recall seeing before.


  64. 64 flbravesgirl September 7, 2010 at 4:32 pm

    OK, someone more technically adept than I am will have to do the link. I tried. 🙄

    Or just go to the Braves MLB page, it’s in the press releases.


  65. 65 eprisewildcat September 7, 2010 at 9:35 pm

    Frustration with the Braves at an all time high! Long way from the season being over but this non-hitting cancer is eating away at a brilliant season. Hudson guilty again of trying to pitch to perfectly to make up for our inept bats. Tonight could also spell farewell to a Cy Young award that Tim was well placed to earn. Torrential downpour at the end of eighth inning is fully appropriate for the mood in the dugout. Grrrrr!!!

    What to do with the inept bats of R.Ankiel, N.Mclouth, and D. Lee. Well… it seems we surged to a big lead without them. Just saying!

    GO BRAVES!!!


  66. 66 flbravesgirl September 7, 2010 at 10:23 pm

    Cubs can have Lee back. I’m ready to see what Freddie can do or if Troy’s knees will let him help.


  67. 67 berigan2electricboogaloo September 7, 2010 at 11:39 pm

    FBG, don’t see a link on the AJC, is it elsewheres????

    I HAVE to start watching the games! I have missed more games the past week than all season (Dwarf house night tonight) a bud got online just in time to see the pirates scoring 5 runs…good grief!
    And those back to back 9 run games skew the runs per game numbers so things don’t look too bad…but the team cannot score runs consistently. And that may be their downfall….


  68. 68 Gil in Mechanicsville September 8, 2010 at 6:13 am

    Good morning all, well, even though it’s a bit early, I still expect to see the sun rise this morning….

    That said, the Braves finally allowed for their poor play to catch up with them. It is becoming apparent that opposing teams feel they have the Bravos right where they want them if they have the bases loaded full of Braves.

    I may have to lay off the games for a while and allow my brain a chance to reset. So many opportunities, so many men left on base.


  69. 69 Voice of Raisins September 8, 2010 at 10:41 am

    You have all expressed my feelings quite well – especially you, Wildcat, at 9:35. Had I been close to my laptop, I might have typed those exact words.

    No, I was listening on the radio while trapped in my car for a 1 hour ride. There was no escaping it. But when it ended, when it finally ended, I must admit to thinking the same thing Gil just said. A layoff… I feel like I could use one. Yet I cannot tear myself away.

    It makes no sense!?! So much frustration with a team with which I have no real affiliation, that has no connection to me whatsoever, of whom I know no single member, yet they twist me up inside in so many knots that I even have trouble sleeping. I think about the lost opportunities, the wasted chances and it just bothers me.

    And I think about the next 23 games and wonder if there’s time to break out of this team slump that is eerily similar to the one we had in April that almost sent fans throughout Braves country to their respective ledges before we even got out of the gate good.

    It is disconcerting. The bats have gone silent. The new pieces are just the same players in different uniform numbers.

    It took Troy Glaus going on a temporary tear to break us out of the last one. He’s not coming to the rescue this time. Will anyone? DLee? Doubt it. His back is about as bad as Troy’s knees, and it’s obvious. Mac? What more can he do? He’s not the problem. What about Prado? No, it’s gonna take a middle of the order bat to break out in a big way and carry this team over the last 4 weeks. Someone with shoulders big enough to hoist the entire expanded roster aboard for the balance of the schedule.

    I look across the roster and only see 2 real candidates, one’s just 22 and in his first full season. The other is even younger and 8 days removed from AAA, and he isn’t playing everyday. Maybe he should be. I don’t know, and it really doesn’t matter. It isn’t realistic to expect from such youngsters. They’re still kids, for cryin’ out loud!

    Yep, the ol’ Braves may have only technically fallen from 1st place on Sept. 7, but they may have actually lost their grip on Aug. 10. Remember that game? Chipper does…

    All that said, there are still 23 games left. I still believe. Why? Because I am a fan. Through thick and thin, drought and abundance, I am still a fan… dangit…


  70. 70 chrisklob September 8, 2010 at 11:30 am

    One word:



  71. 71 berigan2electricboogaloo September 8, 2010 at 11:37 am

    And I am worried about Lowe tonight. Normally, I would bet he would help us salvage one game of the series.
    But guys and gals, he has a bone chip lodged in his elbow joint. His hand went numb before. Perhaps he will be able to give us a few starts…but it just sounds like a problem you can’t really be effective with.

    I was thinking Bobby should start either Nate or Ankle and if they have no hits, put the other guy in…every day til someone gets hot…or at least warm.


  72. 72 Voice of Raisins September 8, 2010 at 4:26 pm

    2night’s lineup:

    Aw… who cares? 😐


  73. 73 Gil in Mechanicsville September 8, 2010 at 5:40 pm

    And a great feeling of malaise spreads in Braves Country…


  74. 74 berigan2electricboogaloo September 8, 2010 at 7:42 pm

    good to see the Braves jump out to a lead….
    My Dad’s birthday, so out to Outback!


  75. 75 chrisklob September 8, 2010 at 10:27 pm

    Happy Birthday to berigan1electricboogaloo!

    I’d love to say that I feel really good about what happened tonight. D Lowe didn’t seem to show that he was in a lot of pain. Of course, I didn’t watch that closely. Just seems to me that this is what should have happened the whole series. No offense to the kids playing for the Pirates intended. I know they want to win and more importantly, many of them are playing for a chance to play with the big club next year. Still, with the talent on the 2010 team, this series should have been a gimme.

    Well, the boys have a couple of tough customers the next few nights. Adam Wainwright (aka, The One Who Got Away, or even more accurately, The One Who Was Given Away For J.D. Drew (barf)) has not been doing that well lately but I’d be willing to bet that he puts his A game on just to show what they gave away.


  76. 76 eprisewildcat September 8, 2010 at 10:46 pm

    Raisins… I’m with ya, DANGIT!!! The Braves are going to go on a tear that will leave the NL amazed and dazed! Mark it down. The line is drawn in the sand. We aren’t going to take it anymore! We’re going to take 3 of 4 from the Cards, then sweep the Gnats and Amazins. Folks it’s going to be sweet!!! The Phillies, Giants, and Rockies are fighting for a wild card spot. Can I get an AMEN!!!

    GO BRAVES!!!


  77. 77 Carolina Lady September 9, 2010 at 2:06 am

    I’ll stand with you, Wildcat! They just HAVE to shake themselves out of this. The Pirates, of all teams! I think they get lackadaisical with the lesser teams and find themselves in a hole before the wake up – but then it’s too late. They seem to have always done that. And Raisins, you should be a professional sports writer. You say what the rest of us feel!


  78. 78 Voice of Raisins September 9, 2010 at 8:21 am

    Thank you, CL… those are kind words.

    I came in from church last night in the bottom of the 5th inning and kinda squinted my eyes as I turned on the TV. The Dish Network channel info window teasingly covered the score for the first 5 seconds before I could see which Braves team showed up for the Pittsburgh season finale.

    9-0. Good guys.

    I am glad it was the A Team.

    I got to see DLowe throw only the 5th and 6th innings, but to me (and maybe it’s the optimist in me) I could see a visible difference in his sinker. I know the bone chip still persists, but if the inflammation is down and the pain is lessened, it only makes sense that Derek can throw easier. We needed that from him. Bad. He delivered. I appreciate him for his professional approach, and for the fact that he had a ready made excuse for a down season yet was not satisfied. He could be the wild card that saves us from the Wild Card.

    Oh… and as much as I am glad that DLee was 2/3 with a run scored and 2 RBI, I flat out enjoyed watching young Mr. Freeman around the 1st base bag. Man that kid can pick ’em! I realize it’s a small sample size, but he has won me over. He’s ready to take over. Maybe now.

    It’ll be nice to see the home uni’s again.


  79. 79 Gil in Mechanicsville September 9, 2010 at 9:00 am

    Lowe looked like the guy who was signed for 4 years at $15 mill per year. Amazing the difference.

    Braves bats jumped on the Bucos early and often but only one extra base hit in the bunch, a double by D. Lowe.

    Still, way too many times the Braves get the bases loaded with less than one out and don’t score….


  80. 80 Gil in Mechanicsville September 9, 2010 at 9:01 am

    And yeah, Freddie can sure pic’em over at first can’t he?


  81. 81 berigan2electricboogaloo September 9, 2010 at 9:13 am

    Thanks Chris! 🙂

    Everyone happier now? 😉


  82. 82 Gil in Mechanicsville September 9, 2010 at 1:55 pm

    Yes Ber, Derek Lowe has restored my will to live… At least until his next game anyway…


  83. 83 Gil in Mechanicsville September 9, 2010 at 11:40 pm

    Well, it was fun while it lasted….


  84. 84 Gil in Mechanicsville September 9, 2010 at 11:51 pm

    And when you are bored with baseball, this is what you watch


  85. 85 Carolina Lady September 10, 2010 at 12:50 am

    Love it, Gil! But I think they’re wrong that he couldn’t make it on his own. I’ve raised several squirrel babies who fell (or were blown) out of nests way before their time – and as soon as spring arrived, I’ve released them and they scamper up into the closest tree just as if they’ve always done it. They thrived totally on their own. That’s not to say that they wouldn’t come to a window of the back glass door begging for a treat now and then, but they did perfectly well, raising their own families. One little guy was so newborn that we were really quite sure what it was – didn’t have his proper head shape, no fur, eyes sealed tightly shut for quite a few days. But as he gained his proper shape and the first sprigs of fur started coming in, we knew we had another one to take care of for a while.


  86. 86 chrisklob September 10, 2010 at 1:21 am

    As much as I dislike squirrels for what they do to my birdfeeders, i do love all of God’s creatures (full disclosure: I HATE mosquitos and palmetto bugs) and it is nice to see a story like the one Gil posted this evening. Thank you Gil. Nice diversion to what happened at the Ted tonight.

    I’m not feeling good about this team right now. They seem rudderless; totally without direction. Starting pitching is wearing thin. The bats are not producing as before. What’s wrong? Are they all tired?


  87. 87 Voice of Raisins September 10, 2010 at 7:45 am

    What’s wrong? Are they all tired?

    They seem spent, out of steam. They peaked way too early, and they seem to have lost momentum. It’s not very pretty.


  88. 88 Gil in Mechanicsville September 10, 2010 at 10:12 am

    Sigh, I have seen it all before. It is a long season and the final push is needed to get past “heartbreak Hill”…


  89. 89 Voice of Raisins September 10, 2010 at 2:31 pm

    I hope this doesn’t sound like Monday morning quarterbacking, but I did wonder then and still do wonder now why Ryan Ludwick and Scott Podsednik were both traded for very little, and the Braves acquired Rick Ankiel and Derek Lee. It’s no slight to either Ankiel or Lee, (well maybe a little bit to Ankiel,) but wouldn’t you rather see Ludwick in LF, Pods in CF, and Troy/Freddie at 1B?

    I know I would.

    Plus, I’d get to say “Pods” alot… 😉

    It just seems a little better fit. We had a few 1B options, yet added another. We already had a bevy of 4th OF, yet added another.

    I know, I know… hindsight and all that. But our abysmal OF – with all due respect to Jason – is going to sink us.


  90. 90 berigan2electricboogaloo September 10, 2010 at 5:06 pm

    V, very good points…I hadn’t thought about Pods(that would be pretty cool 😉 ) but watching baseball tonight from last night(gripe #469 with ESPN these days, they seem to think baseball season is over, putting this show on usually at 12:30 am the past week or so,and half the time it’s not even on then, and they look like they have had budget cuts, only 2 people there, no Buster or Tim K. to boot)
    I did notice Ryan Ludwick had hit his 15th homer…he has 59 RBI’s as well, and was on the DL. Of course, looking this up, I see he has been hitting .169 in the previous 20 games and was given off Weds to regroup.

    Still those look like sparkling numbers compared to Eric Hinske’s(Did you know he’s been hitting .202 since the all star break, .183 during August, and has only one hit this month?)

    Melky hit .238 for August. And in 136 AB’s right handed, he’s hitting .228. Why would he ever bat right handed?

    Diaz hit .227 pre all star game, .247 post all star game. But, he’s hit 6 homers since the break, which may be tops on the team! 🙄

    Ankle, has a nice looking swing for hitting .209 since coming over. (Why can’t he at least be hitting the .261 he hit in the AL?)

    Nate has sucked all year in ways one could never imagine, though perhaps he is starting to at least hit the ball?

    Heres a thought…put Prado back at 2nd, Glaus at 3rd, and Infante in left, or CF??? Don’t we really need some more offense??? Wouldn’t it be worth a shot???


  91. 91 Voice of Raisins September 10, 2010 at 5:11 pm

    Glaus at 3B? 😯

    Oh, Lord! He’s stiffer than roadkill!

    I’ll say this about Nate. Over the last few games, his swing seems to have leveled off a bit, and he’s actually making good contact. If he could suddenly snap out of his funk, it’d be a huge shot in the arm.


  92. 92 berigan2electricboogaloo September 10, 2010 at 6:23 pm

    Well, I don’t exactly recall Chipper diving to his left much! 😉
    Hey, I would be willing to lose a few singles between him and Gonzo for a few doubles and homers…on Paper a middle of the lineup featuring Heyward(I would put him in the 3 hole, things aren’t firing on all cylinders now, are they?) DLee, McCann, Glaus (l,r,l,r ain’t I clever?)might not be the worst thing in the world….just daydreamin….


  93. 93 berigan2electricboogaloo September 10, 2010 at 6:28 pm

    I’m sure Bobby will switch things up once he sees my brilliance on the web 😛
    Until then, a lineup that must have Carpenter shaking and quaking in his shoes…

    1)O. Infante
    2)J. Heyward
    3)M. Prado
    4)B. McCann
    5)D. Lee
    6)N. McLouth
    7)A. Gonzalez
    8)M. Cabrera
    9)M. Minor

    I think the cards smell blood..and know they can get back into at least the wildcard talk if they beat up on us…hopefully “we” can work some counts, and get into their bullpen….


  94. 94 eprisewildcat September 10, 2010 at 9:46 pm

    Tonight’s game has driven me from total gloom and despair to jumping up and down with glee. Of course there are three innings left so still time for other emotion swings.



  95. 95 Voice of Raisins September 10, 2010 at 10:52 pm

    Yea! 😀

    Did I see the box score correctly? McLouth, CF, 1-3, 1R, 1RBI, 1HR? Lee D, 1B, 2-4, 1R, 1RBI?

    That’s what it will take. Good to see it.


  96. 96 Gil in Mechanicsville September 10, 2010 at 10:55 pm



  97. 97 eprisewildcat September 10, 2010 at 11:06 pm

    Yep… the game tonight was pretty intense. Had the feel of playoff baseball. I think it will take me a couple of hours to wind down and get some sleep now. Oh well… let’s do it again tomorrow!



  98. 98 chrisklob September 10, 2010 at 11:13 pm

    had to turn off the game tonight after carpenter went deep. couldn’t bear to watch another heartbreaking loss. so, i’m not sure what exactly happened but i’m happy with the result!


  99. 99 Voice of Raisins September 11, 2010 at 1:50 am

    OK, everyone…

    I have a letter I’d like to send out describing a mission trip to Moldova that I am going on this December. If you don’t mind me sending you one, please shoot me your address to my email at kstrat316@gmail.com. If you don’t want one, I completely understand.

    I covet your prayers regarding this.

    Thanks! 😀


  100. 100 berigan2electricboogaloo September 11, 2010 at 8:25 am

    Chris, I turned the game off soon after you did. Figured there was no way they could come back against Carpenter!
    Just shows you don’t know, you just never know for sure, in baseball….

    V, you have mail!


  101. 101 berigan2electricboogaloo September 11, 2010 at 8:30 am

    Even if “you” read this later on this week, you should read it…. About the life and death of Eric Show, the guy who gave up Pete Rose’s record breaking hit.
    Never liked him, didn’t like his face, his mustache, him hitting Andre Dawson in the face with a pitch….but you never know what someone has been through, what pain they have inside of them….


  102. 102 berigan2electricboogaloo September 11, 2010 at 8:53 am

    Hard to believe it’s been 9 years since 9-11.
    So much has changed since then.
    The country was united for a brief moment in time, now it’s more divided than ever.
    We were attacked, but we are now seen as the bad guys around the world.
    It doesn’t matter how many times radical Muslims try to blow up cars, tunnels, etc, if they don’t succeed, it doesn’t me a thing.
    We, as a nation are seen to some here and abroad as being insensitive and/or racist(Of course Islam is not a race, but a religion) for thinking a Muslim community center/Mosque being built a few hundred yards from ground zero is in any way, shape or form a bad idea.
    Would any of this seemed possible 9 years ago?


  103. 103 Gil in Mechanicsville September 11, 2010 at 12:26 pm

    The media just keeps on boiling the frogs…. I don’t care how bad a person is, if the stories on that individual are always positive, people will follow that line. Hatchet jobs work the same way in reverse. So let it be with Caesar…

    Now baseball… I was watching the race and the ballgame at the same time. Sound on for neither one, a lot like being in a sports bar but the wings are better here. Anyway, it did appear the Braves would lose again when the bottom of the sixth happened. Led off by none other than Brooks Conrad. Three hit later and you are thinking, this team has a chance… Not that the two runs given up by Venters didn’t cause a bit of anxiety…

    T’was fun however to see the Braves come back. Now, if Tommy can be “good Tommy” this afternoon, I’m going to feel a lot better. Going to be a real dogfight in the west too. I guess this is what being in a pennant chase is all about. Like 1991 all over again.


  104. 104 eprisewildcat September 11, 2010 at 5:59 pm

    A.Gone has become the easiest out on the team. Lots of opportunities for him to contribute but nothing. Grrrrr!!!

    Now… O.Infante is the man! Would love to have a couple more just like him.

    GO BRAVES!!!


  105. 105 Voice of Raisins September 11, 2010 at 8:14 pm

    Walked in just in time to see the bottom of the 12th. Wow! Back in 1st, albeit a tie, and all is right with the world again.


  106. 106 chrisklob September 11, 2010 at 8:15 pm

    wildcat, thanks for calling A. Gone out! he obviously saw your post. 🙂


  107. 107 berigan2electricboogaloo September 11, 2010 at 8:48 pm

    Man, had company over, watched the 9th, 10th and 11th, tied up….knew people wanted to watch a movie, so turned the game off at just the wrong time….well, glad they did win though! 🙂


  108. 108 Gil in Mechanicsville September 11, 2010 at 8:54 pm

    Yeehaw… yep, that Gonzo guy is worthless… 🙂


  109. 109 eprisewildcat September 11, 2010 at 9:04 pm

    Now you know why I’m not a millionaire. To quick to make hasty judgement calls. But Gonzalez has been horrible lately! But all is forgiven for a game or two. Don’t think I can take almost a month of this and then the playoffs.

    How about that at-bat by Ankiel? To finally draw that walk was incredible.

    GO BRAVES!!!


  110. 110 flbravesgirl September 11, 2010 at 10:24 pm

    Rough on the blood pressure, aren’t they, Wildcat?

    Wouldn’t it be sweet if Omar can win the batting title? Wonder where all those who complained about him making the All-Star team are now?


  111. 111 Gil in Mechanicsville September 12, 2010 at 3:12 am

    Good morning all, much better sports weekend for me this week. Denny wins the NASCAR race and Braves win a thriller.

    I wanted to comment on Kimbrel because I think his performance in the top of the twelfth kind of will get overlooked. Wow, was he impressive. Now I can see what all the raves about him are all about. 98mph heater and a knee buckling curve that he got for strike three against Ryan was just unfair to a hitter.

    Regardless of what happens this season, the Braves are pretty much set in their bullpen for 2011 with Venters and Kimbrel at the back of the pen. The cortisone shot Moylan got in his aching shoulder apparently has fixed whatever was ailing him too.

    For those of you who did not see the game on FOX, Mark Grace said Kyle Farnsworth used to have a T-shirt he wore under his jersey in Chicago which read “I never said I was a people person”.


  112. 112 berigan2electricboogaloo September 12, 2010 at 7:56 pm

    Gil, I missed Kimbril, but what I saw last night makes it look like Farnsworthless is more Farnsworth of late…just don’t expect him to be a people person, eh? 😉


  113. 113 chrisklob September 12, 2010 at 9:31 pm

    Man, the Braves are hitting Lohse hard but not having much luck!


  114. 114 eprisewildcat September 12, 2010 at 10:06 pm

    chris… you got that right! Huddy can’t close out an inning when he gets two outs. Give the Cards credit they are hitting all his mistakes extremely hard. If I was Bobby I’d consider walking Pujols every time he comes up.

    We still have time to get to Lohse but it’s going to require D.Lee and Melk-Dud to start contributing. Let’s see if I call them out if they start producing. Ha!

    GO BRAVES!!!


  115. 115 Gil in Mechanicsville September 13, 2010 at 9:48 am

    Appears to me that Huddy is running out of gas, I think it’s the old “tired arm” syndrome that strikes this time of year. He left way too many pitches up. When Hudson is right, there are non better, when he is gassed, he becomes very hittable.

    Yep, the Braves hit Lohse hard last night, just happened to be someone there to catch them nearly every time.

    On the plus side, doesn’t McLouth look like the player Frank traded for last year? Did it really take him that long to get use to eating grits instead of hash browns?

    Okay, time to kick some Gnat booty this week.


  116. 116 Voice of Raisins September 13, 2010 at 11:25 am

    I have learned that I cannot ride the emotional roller coaster with them this fall. I’ll just have to kind of let it come and go.

    18 games left, all in the division – 6 with the Nats, 6 with the Phils, 3 each with the Mutts and Fish. And the last 6 games are at home. But those 6 with the Phils, including the season’s final series at home… those are going to be the games that really and truly tell the tale.

    You know what chills my spine, though? 6 with the Nats. Why do I feel like they might just wet the bed against the stinkin’ Nats?

    Look… we had opportunity in hand with the Pirates, and tossed it away. We MUST take care of business against the Nats. Especially this next series here at the Ted. Do I think we need a sweep? Yes I do. Mark it down… we lose one of these next 3 at home to the Nats, and that 1 game will be the difference in 1st place in the division.

    DLowe vs. Yunesky Maya (0-1, 7.20 ERA)… Maya is coming off his major league debut. Gotta win this one for sure.

    JJ vs. Livan Flippin’ Hernandez (9-11, 3.82 ERA)… C’mon already. Are we gonna bend over for Livan again? Dude has an 8.47 ERA over his last 3 starts. No excuses allowed for this one. Eric Gregg has been worm food for some time now.

    Minor vs. John Lannan (7-7, 4.69 ERA)… A pair of young lefties. Minor needs to be all we expect him to be. Lannan has been very sharp over his last 3 starts.

    Yep… 18 left. 9 here, 9 away. 12 of those against the Nats, Fish and Mutts. Gotta take 9 of those 12, in my opinion. Gotta.


  117. 117 Gil in Mechanicsville September 13, 2010 at 5:14 pm

    9 of 12 eh? .750… May be right, the Rockies are liable to win the West the way they are playing… Of course, they have to play away from home so maybe not. Are the Padres feeling the pressure? Seems so. Still, the Giants must finish the season against the Dodgers and we all know how that can play out regardless of the standings. Nothing like a blood feud for your final series.

    At least the Braves didn’t strike out a bunch last night, except Lee… hummm, okay and maybe Mac… but only in important situations…

    I think Lowe becomes the ace the rest of the way. Better things for better living thru chemistry. 🙂


  118. 118 Gil in Mechanicsville September 13, 2010 at 5:16 pm

    Whatever happened with Morgan’s suspensions? Next 3 nights should be a good time for him to start on those I would think.


  119. 119 berigan2electricboogaloo September 13, 2010 at 6:13 pm

    It is weird to go from hoping they don’t get swept in the playoffs, and how this would really be the year to play the Yankees with their nearly non existent rotation, to having Jim Mora’s words going through your head

    I seem to recall the Rockies beating the Brewers the last game to get into the playoffs….but yeah, they really do suck on the road…amazing run right now though….


  120. 120 chrisklob September 13, 2010 at 7:18 pm

    Eric Gregg may be worm food but if the top of the first is any indication, Gregg’s “strike” zone is alive and well.


  121. 121 Gil in Mechanicsville September 13, 2010 at 8:39 pm

    Derrek is really dealing with his rejuvenated elbow tonight.


  122. 122 Voice of Raisins September 13, 2010 at 9:17 pm

    He’s pitching like a $15M pitcher!

    Oh, wait… he is. 😀


  123. 123 chrisklob September 13, 2010 at 10:47 pm

    Raisins, it’s about time!

    Lowe did look good tonight. Lots of movement on his ball and there were a lot of Nats that were left with the bat on their shoulder. Without looking, I believe that his record is 13-12 and his ERA is somewhere about 4.75. Those are pretty pedestrian numbers for a guy making $15m/year.

    I’m not saying he was a bad signing. Braves needed him when he was available. I’d be curious to do a comparison of him against JJ and a few other people like Santana, Josh Johnson, Lincecum, et al. Sort of a cost/benefit analysis kind of thing.


  124. 124 eprisewildcat September 13, 2010 at 10:58 pm

    Should I stay or should I go? Thinking about taking a day off tomorrow and seeing the Gnats against our Bravos. Sure wish I could meet some of y’all at the game. Looking at the crowd tonight it was a bit thin. This team deserves some support. What a shame because D.Lowe was dealing tonight. Still worried about our offense. What… we had all of 5 hits tonight? Scored all of runs in the 2nd inning and one of those off a balk. Geeeezz!

    GO BRAVES!!!


  125. 125 chrisklob September 13, 2010 at 11:07 pm

    Wildcat, you are looking a little pale. Perhaps you should call in sick tomorrow! I’d love to go tomorrow or to ANY game for that matter but as I don’t live in the ATL it’s a little tough, not to mention expensive, to get over there. You should go and have a beverage of some sort for me!


  126. 126 Gil in Mechanicsville September 13, 2010 at 11:09 pm

    I’m thinking Dr. Feelgood and his magic needle needs to pay a visit to JJ and Huddy and dose them with some of that Kick-a-poo Joy Juice dispensed to Moylan and Lowe.


  127. 127 chrisklob September 13, 2010 at 11:19 pm

    Gil, I’m fairly sure that Tommy could use some of that good stuff too!


  128. 128 Gil in Mechanicsville September 14, 2010 at 1:55 am

    Tommy looked much better his last time out. Still, he is a young guy and has not really built up the stamina needed for the final month. Too bad Kamikaze is such a bust, the Braves could really use another starter to allow for some extra rest.

    Kershin is lucky Bobby is retiring after the end of the season because otherwise he would get paid $7 million next season to keep Saito company in the pen talking about his Maserati.

    It does not look like the Phillies are going to let up now that they have a lead. They can smell the blood in the water and want to make the final series with Atlanta irrelevant. They talk a good game but I get the feeling they fear the Braves more than the Braves fear the Phillies.


  129. 129 Gil in Mechanicsville September 14, 2010 at 1:58 am

    I also would like to see Freddie Freeman get more starts at first. Derrik Lee is a great player but he is still only about 75% right now which translates into a lot of 0-fers.


  130. 130 eprisewildcat September 14, 2010 at 8:25 am

    Thanks chris for the encouragement and yes I am feeling a little poorly. Think I’ll make the 3 1/2 hour drive to the Ted for a little recuperation.

    D.Lowe said he sat down with R.McDowell and came up with a game plan to beat the Gnats because he had not beat them in a couple of years. Is this a new concept? Hmmmmm.

    GO BRAVES!!!


  131. 131 Gil in Mechanicsville September 14, 2010 at 9:00 am

    EPW… I would join you but it’s just a tad bit far for me to drive. I do plan to see a couple of games in DC when the Braves return the end of the month. They play bookend day games so maybe I can get Josie to go too.

    I do miss having the triple A franchise for the Brave here in Richmond. The new AA team has a working arrangement with the SF Giants but I just cannot warm up to the team. It’s a lot like watching a bunch of American Legion players go at it.

    Sigh, the curse of getting older… Everybody looks like a kid, even the graybeards who are 35 years old…

    Regardless of the change in the game plan for Derek Lowe last night, you still have to be able to execute and man, was his ball moving. You would have thought it was Huddy pitching the way the ball was hopping. Something I have noticed having watched thousands of games on TV, when the ball thrown by a pitcher looks flat, it’s as if it has been placed on a tee for most major league hitters.


  132. 132 chrisklob September 14, 2010 at 11:27 am

    Wildcat, I’m sure you’ll be feeling better tomorrow!

    Gil, I didn’t realize that Richmond had a team again. That’s how far out of the loop on minor league ball I am. Two years ago I could have told you the name, league, affiliation and all major prospects on that team. Oh well, my priorities have to be different now.

    One nice thing about watching AA over AAA baseball is that you often get to see more true prospects play in AA. Many franchises stock their AAA teams with insurance players for the major league club. It’s always fun to see the kids play rather than the grizzled old veteran trying for one last shot at the show.


  133. 133 eprisewildcat September 14, 2010 at 12:13 pm

    Y’all be looking for me behind the Braves dugout. Section 115, Row 21. Amazing how cheap the tickets are on Stubhub the day of the game. Well they’re cheap for the Gnats game but they won’t be cheap for the Phillies series. Especially if the Braves are still in the hunt which I fully expect them to be!

    Hey… I’ll be the one in the Braves cap. Think I’ll stick with the road blue cap because it’s on a hot streak.

    GO BRAVES!!!


  134. 134 berigan2electricboogaloo September 14, 2010 at 12:38 pm

    We’ll be looking for ya Wildcat!

    Well, color me surprised about DLowe! I had more faith in Smoltz’s screwed together shoulder, than an elbow with a chip lodged in the joint!
    Sadly, I missed most of the game(Went to Summit racing for their Monday car shows, first time this year, only 2 shows left-why they don’t have them in Oct, I’ll never know) got back at 9 pm…needless to say, to see Lowe get his 12th strikeout, and that the game was in the 8th, was not what I expected!
    Biggest and best start for Lowe since becoming a brave….we really needed that…and how about Nate??? I predict Ankle will be riding the pine quite a bit….


  135. 135 berigan2electricboogaloo September 14, 2010 at 2:31 pm

    An interesting article talking about shoulder and elbow surgeries….


  136. 136 Voice of Raisins September 14, 2010 at 3:25 pm

    2night’s lineup:

    1. Omar, 2B
    2. Jason, RF
    3. Marteeen, 3B
    4. Mac, C
    5. DLee, 1B
    6. McSuddenly a tough out, CF
    7. Gonzo, SS
    8. MattyD, LF
    9. JJ, P

    Isn’t it amazing what a resurgent Nate can do to a lineup? This is the 1-8 lineup I’d go to war with. Last night, they looked like a playoff team. I hope they repeat tonight.


  137. 137 berigan2electricboogaloo September 14, 2010 at 7:05 pm

    McSuddenly a tough out 😆


  138. 138 eprisewildcat September 14, 2010 at 7:42 pm

    A.Dunn hit that one into the plaza. Richocheted off ToonerTown. WOW!!!

    JJ struggling!

    GO BRAVES!!!


  139. 139 berigan2electricboogaloo September 14, 2010 at 7:57 pm

    Wildcat, that strike two call on McCann may be the worst strike call I have ever seen on anyone at anytime!!! 😯

    Man, must have been something to see the Dunn homer in person!

    Off to dinner where there is no tv! 😦

    Go Bravos!


  140. 140 Voice of Raisins September 14, 2010 at 9:15 pm


    That’s all… just ugh.



  141. 141 Gil in Mechanicsville September 14, 2010 at 9:28 pm

    Braves continue to get guys on base but can’t get them in…


  142. 142 Voice of Raisins September 14, 2010 at 9:36 pm



  143. 143 Voice of Raisins September 14, 2010 at 9:37 pm

    Philly up 2-1 in the 7th.

    @#$%^&*! 😡


  144. 144 Voice of Raisins September 14, 2010 at 9:43 pm

    Fredi Gonzalez Declines Chance to Interview for Cubs Job


    If ever there was an indication that he and Frank have had a conversation or two, this it it.

    You know, I understand the desire to not make anything related to Bobby’s successor a distraction, but at some point, the speculation itself becomes distracting. Perhaps they should go ahead and put this one to bed.


  145. 145 Gil in Mechanicsville September 15, 2010 at 8:07 am

    After last night’s debacle, (lots of those lately) I’m going to TiVo today’s game and go fishing…

    Wow, that was some big homerun hit by Dunn last night. Glad they don’t score them by the yard…


  146. 146 eprisewildcat September 15, 2010 at 8:20 am

    ber… I was listening to J.Smoltz on the MLB Network on the drive home (love XM Radio) and he he said it was the longest home run he has ever seen at the Ted. Bobby Cox said in his post game interview it was the longest he has seen as well and I think he has seen almost every game. I heard somewhere they said it was 453 feet but I think they need to recalculate. It was longer than the one J-Hey hit on opening day which I’ve heard different numbers but somewhere around 480. I was lucky enough to witness both and A.Dunn’s ball was longer. That thing landed in the plaza and was headed to Skip and Pete’s BBQ shack. WOW!!!

    GO BRAVES!!!


  147. 147 berigan2electricboogaloo September 15, 2010 at 11:32 am

    Like everyone else here, I just don’t know what to make of this team!
    Saw DOB said this before the game…
    “Still, Livan comes in struggling, with a 1-3 record, 9.70 ERA and .364 opponents’ average in his past four starts.”

    I saw a few innings, he did look good, but he is someone you have to beat up on! If you can’t beat up on him, how are you going to win in the playoffs??? It feels like if a team throws out any ol’ lefty or crafty righty, this team has trouble…I just don’t know if a team that has question marks in left, center, and at first, can get into the playoffs…of course J.J. and Hanson have to pitch better or we will once again be on the outside looking in….


  148. 148 berigan2electricboogaloo September 15, 2010 at 11:43 am

    V, very good news on the managerial front! I was worried a bit….that has to be a tough job to turn down, but Atlanta makes so much sense….

    Wildcat, on baseball tonight, they showed the homer and said it was 478 feet! Felt better when I heard that….
    Can’t Freddie play left next year, and the Donk 1st for us???

    I know Freddie is a better 1st baseman, but can you imagine the damage Dunn could do with Prado, and Infante (and hopefully Chipper)always on base in front of him, and McCann and Heyward behind him…man…a guy can dream, can’t he??? 🙂


  149. 149 Voice of Raisins September 15, 2010 at 12:13 pm

    I rather Dunn butcher LF than 1B, especially when you consider that Freddie will monopolize the Gold Glove over there for several years…

    Man this team really flusters me… 😐


  150. 150 Voice of Raisins September 15, 2010 at 12:23 pm

    Crikey! 😯

    12:10pm start!


  151. 151 Voice of Raisins September 15, 2010 at 12:28 pm

    2day’s lineup:

    1. Omar, 2B
    2. Jason, RF
    3. Marteeen, 3B
    4. Glaus, 1B 😡
    5. MattyD, LF
    6. Gonzo, SS
    7. Melk-crap, CF 😡
    8. Ross-y, C
    9. Minor, P

    With that lineup, I may not even bother. Shooting for the Wild Card now, I suppose… 😡


  152. 152 berigan2electricboogaloo September 15, 2010 at 12:37 pm

    Crikey indeed! And after Minor gives up a granny to a guy hitting .132, I may not bother either…good grief!
    Now his ERA is over 6.00. Man….


  153. 153 berigan2electricboogaloo September 15, 2010 at 1:04 pm

    Diaz hit a ball up the middle that should have been a hit, deflect to the ss for a double play. Now Heyward is hit just on the bottom of his spikes, to be out…no luck at all…


  154. 154 Voice of Raisins September 15, 2010 at 3:09 pm

    Voice of Raisins
    September 13, 2010 at 11:25 am

    You know what chills my spine, though? 6 with the Nats. Why do I feel like they might just wet the bed against the stinkin’ Nats?

    Mattress is soaked… 😐


  155. 155 berigan2electricboogaloo September 15, 2010 at 10:06 pm

    V, sometimes you just don’t want to be right….but you were right….


  156. 156 berigan2electricboogaloo September 15, 2010 at 11:09 pm

    Nice to see the Marlins are laying down nicely for the Phils…now we are only 3 games out. 🙄

    1 ahead in the wildcard race….of course the Giants will be just a half game(I think) behind us if they beat the Dodgers tonight.

    Why does this soundbite keep going around in me noggin?


  157. 157 chrisklob September 16, 2010 at 1:24 am

    berigan said “now we are only 3 games out.”

    You, good sir, are either an eternal optimist, a salesman, or demented. ONLY 3 games out? I guess the good news is that the team only has to see the deadly Nats three more times.

    WTH is wrong with this team? Livan Hernandez? Really? Isn’t he like 54 or something? What on earth has happened to this team. Starting pitching stinks and the bats have gone silent!

    Wake up boys, unless you have an early October tee time of course.


  158. 158 Voice of Raisins September 16, 2010 at 7:52 am

    What is wrong with this team? One needs only look to the game yesterday when they remained on the field after getting the 3rd out in one of the innings. Their heads are somewhere else. Surreal, isn’t it?

    They get a day off today to pull said head out of their collective butt.

    Maybe they can take their frustration out on the Mutts. That’d be OK.

    And this is no excuse, because he was no factor really, but what is MLB waiting on with Nyjer Morgan? His appeal was heard, he’s just waiting to find out when he has to start serving his lengthy suspension. Why not this past Monday? Now the Phils will likely get to face the Nats without their starting CF and leading base stealer. Does that seem right to you? Not me. 😡

    I think I have anger issues…


  159. 159 Voice of Raisins September 16, 2010 at 2:06 pm

    OK… so his suspension was cut to 8 games, which he will begin tomorrow, after he played the full series with Atlanta.

    He will, of course, miss the next 3 games against Philly.

    He will return on Sept. 25, against Atlanta. 😡


  160. 160 chrisklob September 16, 2010 at 3:42 pm

    Raisins, I saw that too. Ridiculous!


  161. 161 berigan2electricboogaloo September 16, 2010 at 5:58 pm

    Hey, cheer up, you could be a Mutts fan! This is pretty funny, IMHO…


  162. 162 chrisklob September 16, 2010 at 10:46 pm

    ber, that’s funny stuff! i like the fact that they did it so close to the stadium!


  163. 163 berigan2electricboogaloo September 17, 2010 at 3:02 am

    Well, Giants won, so now they are in 1st in the West, and the Pads are a half game behind us….That may be good news for us, in some strange way. Pads seem like the Braves to be a mediocre team right now…the Rockies are the team to worry about. If the Braves do what they are capable of against the Mutts, we can hopefully turn things around….time will tell.


  164. 164 Voice of Raisins September 17, 2010 at 2:10 pm

    I have a very busy schedule over the next few days, so I wanted to chime in here briefly before the boys hit the diamond tonight in NYC.

    I have been as guilty as anyone – maybe worse – with regard to my shabby treatment of Nate McLouth. I wanted to pop on here for a sec and just say that I am truly proud of how hard he has worked to get himself back to a semi-respectful level. The work seems to have paid off and his swings, and the contact he is making, certainly is proof of that.

    Way to go, Nate. I’ll be rooting for you the rest of the way.

    Of course, it doesn’t hurt that alot of the Braves’ fortunes hang on Nate’s ability to be productive over the next 3 weeks and beyond. 😀


  165. 165 berigan2electricboogaloo September 17, 2010 at 9:51 pm

    Wow, what a game! In the car, I heard the score was 3-0 Mutts and the braves had squandered a 2nd and 3rd situation. Didn’t really want to hear the braves AB’s so put on some music, got gas, and drove home. 10-15 minutes after turning radio off, turned tv on, 6-4 Braves!!! Really???? JHey is the man!
    Still think he should be batting 3rd, more power and all that….oh well, a win was really necessarily,and they won tonight….. good on ya braves! 🙂


  166. 166 flbravesgirl September 17, 2010 at 9:57 pm

    Just about died when I saw Mac’s face. Of course the Mets dorks didn’t know what happened. No more running around the pool for him.


  167. 167 Gil in Mechanicsville September 18, 2010 at 1:19 pm

    Am I a bad fan? I took a few days off from the Braves while they played Washington. I guess I just could not stand to see them flounder. Soooo, last night I tuned into the game about the second inning, just in time to see the Mets score three. 😦

    What a bummer, I’m thinking, maybe I should just watch some lame TV show because I can’t stand to see the Bravos squander away a great season. Last year’s Tigers come to mind… but I digress… Anyway, I decided to hang with it and boom… the good guys put a six spot on the board.

    So now I wonder, is this the turning point? Does this get them out of the doldrums? Is this the pivotal moment that saves the season? I sure hope so because I sure have felt depressed since the Braves have slipped. Of course it could be worse, I could be a Padre fan….


  168. 168 berigan2electricboogaloo September 18, 2010 at 6:49 pm

    No Gil, not a bad fan….it’s tough to watch this team lose to teams they should at least play .500 ball, at the very least(Pirates, Nats)
    but, thank goodness for the Mutts, just what the doctor ordered! Nate hit another homer, Gonzo missed one by maybe 4 inches…what a ridiculous park! Lets sweep them tomorrow!


  169. 169 Gil in Mechanicsville September 18, 2010 at 8:42 pm

    I was all set to watch today’s game and *poof* I was rewarded with the Tigers… BAH!!!! I did listen to the radio feed but it is not the same, it’s like listening on a tinny 6 transistor radio in study hall…

    Good results though. Need a sweep, Derrek Lowe has been reborn of late but Dicky can be a tough pitcher for anyone to hit when that butterfly ball of his is working.


  170. 170 Gil in Mechanicsville September 19, 2010 at 6:24 pm

    YEAH BABY!!!! That was one huge bomb by Derrik Lee today. he must be feeling better. Just a nice game by the Braves all around.

    Now the Phillies, swept them the last time in Phillie, think it could happen again? At least the Bravos don’t have a porous bullpen like the Nats… Wow, what a disappointment for me today with Storn blowing that 3 run lead in the ninth. Oh well, like the guys said, if you win your own game, it’s still a done deal.

    Anyhoo… I may go up to Washington one last time this year next Saturday or Sunday. I am almost afraid to because I may be bringing them bad luck. Braves always lose when I go to the game. 😦

    Poor Bobby, I wonder if anyone is going to give him a bottle of Malox as a parting gift? Got to be a real gut wrencher for him these last two weeks.


  171. 171 flbravesgirl September 19, 2010 at 8:57 pm

    We all keep saying someone’s really going to get hurt by these broken bats flying. It happened today. Cubs’ Tyler Colvin was running at 3rd & got hit in the chest. Punctured his chest wall. Sounds like he’ll be OK but it was a couple of inches from his heart & lungs.


  172. 172 eprisewildcat September 19, 2010 at 10:44 pm

    flbravesgirl… for all the talk about maple vs. ash and different construction methods the last couple of years nothing has changed. Seems like the last couple of weeks I’ve seen more bats explode than ever before. Players are going to use what they feel will make them better hitters. To heck with safety concerns! Baseball is a tough business.

    Well… regardless of the Philthies comeback today against the Gnats the series starting tomorrow will be fascinating. How cool would it be if JJ, Minor, and Hanson can take down the their big 3. Can’t wait! Let’s get it on!!!

    GO BRAVES!!!


  173. 173 Voice of Raisins September 20, 2010 at 7:07 am

    How cool would it be if JJ, Minor, and Hanson can take down the their big 3.

    JJ, Minor and Hanson. Seems to me that Bobby might coulda used his wealth of pitching to get Huddy into this series. Huddy, JJ, Hanson sounds alot better to me than JJ, Minor, Hanson.

    Just sayin’…


  174. 175 Voice of Raisins September 20, 2010 at 7:37 am

    Jurrjens is expected to pitch for the Braves in tonight’s opener, but he is dealing with a knee injury. If Jurrjens is scratched, [Brandon] Beachy will make his big-league debut in the thick of a playoff race.



    Speechless. I am speechless.


  175. 176 Voice of Raisins September 20, 2010 at 9:06 am

    Mr. O’B:

    Just got this response from Frank Wren, who said Beachy was on standby but that Jurrjens has improved and will start tonight.

    “It’s just a precaution in case,” he said of Beachy being brought to Philly. “JJ felt better yesterday. Nothing serious, just a tweak to knee.”

    I don’t like it. Nope. Not at all.


  176. 177 Voice of Raisins September 20, 2010 at 9:09 am

    Here’s what I don’t get – If they knew they were dealing with this, why not give Beachy his MLB debut against the Mutts, and push DLowe back to face the Phils in the opener?

    Wouldn’t that have made more sense?

    I don’t like it…


  177. 178 berigan2electricboogaloo September 20, 2010 at 10:30 am

    V, isn’t that terrible news about LaRue????
    Add that to what happened to Tyler Colvin(he will miss the rest of the year, it reminds you of what a violent sport baseball can be. Of Course you don’t expect to be kicked in the head several times to end your career. I wonder who he is more mad at, the pitcher who kicked him(And I can kinda-sorta understand not liking getting pinned against the net behind home plate) or Brandon Phillips starting everything by saying in the press how very much he hated everything about the Cardinals….

    And yeah, it doesn’t seem like the braves put much thought into the rotation, did they??? Add to the fact Hudson has already pitched 210 innings(after pitching only 42 last year and 142 in 2008) and no doubt needed to be skipped a start…now JJ after two bad starts has a sore knee??? Man, this series could be real painful to watch.

    Oh, and why in the wide, wide world of sports did Bobby pitch Venters in all 3 games against the Mutts?? Why have him come in with a 3 run lead??? Why pitch him in 4 of the last 5 games??? Before the biggest series of the year? With no day off??? Does that make any sense??? Its not like the braves don’t have several other arms down in the bullpen…

    Sigh…I Really want to see the braves get into the playoffs…I know you guys and gals do to…but we don’t have 3 guys to equal the Phils starting 3…nor their offense…and we will be playing on the road in front of sellout crowds…which I guess every team that plays the Phils does…

    Troy Tulowiski (SP?) has 14 Homers and 34 RBI’s already this month! And Carlos Gonzalez is hitting .100+ points higher than him this month. It’s shocking to see the Rockies even lose a game….Can we hold on??? We will know soon enough…


  178. 179 berigan2electricboogaloo September 20, 2010 at 10:56 am

    Man, am I ever glad I don’t live in England! Hopefully, the people there will rise up and not let this happen!!!!!



  179. 180 Voice of Raisins September 20, 2010 at 1:13 pm

    MLBTR’s Ben Nicholson-Smith doing his best Capt. Obvious impersonation:

    The Braves could use a big bat to play left field and they’ll likely be on the lookout for one this offseason.



  180. 181 Voice of Raisins September 20, 2010 at 3:20 pm

    From Braves broadcaster Jim Powell’s Twitter:

    Sounds like Beachy is indeed starting tonight’s game for the #Braves vs the #Phillies. Jurrjens will miss the start with knee discomfort.



  181. 182 Voice of Raisins September 20, 2010 at 3:23 pm

    2night’s lineup:

    1. Omar, 2B
    2. HeyStack, RF
    3. Prado, 3B
    4. DLee, 1B
    5. Mac, C
    6. MattyD, LF
    7. Gonzo, SS
    8. MelkDud, CF -Wha?!?
    9. Brandon Beachy, P -allegedly…


  182. 183 Voice of Raisins September 20, 2010 at 3:24 pm

    It’s official… Beachy is making the start. I am not missing this game 2night!

    This might as well be the start of the playoffs. Gotta win this series.


  183. 184 berigan2electricboogaloo September 20, 2010 at 6:02 pm

    Wow!!!! We are really underdogs right now….hopefully he doesn’t fold under this kind of pressure!

    I hope we win the series too, but I am thinking I hope we at least don’t get swept. Win one, then beat up on everyone else….


  184. 185 eprisewildcat September 20, 2010 at 8:27 pm

    Does Melk-Dud have a decent record against C.Hamels or something? I believe that N.Mclouth should own centerfield until he forgets how to hit again. The Melk-Dud already double played us out of a possible big inning.

    You gotta love all our young pitching. However, one would think that JJ has been around long enough to know better than to fail to report any health issue. That ball A.Dunn hit last week may have something to do with JJ’s problem.

    Beachy looks like a great prospect. Nice fundamentals with balance throughout his throwing motion. Would like to see an out pitch and an ability to vary speed. So far nerves have not gotten the best of him. So far everything is pretty peachy! Harharhar!!!

    GO BRAVES!!!


  185. 186 flbravesgirl September 20, 2010 at 10:17 pm

    I think that was a pretty solid emergency start for Beachy. JHey’s error killed us.

    On a good note, how great was Matte tripping up the Red Menace for security?


  186. 187 chrisklob September 21, 2010 at 1:04 am

    fbg, that was a pretty fair start for a young guy making his first big league start in hostile territory. hats off to beachy.

    wildcat, i think i heard on the tv broadcast that the melk man is something like 4 for 10 against hamels. it’s a nice stat but a pretty small base. that’s just bobby being bobby again. guy gets hot so he wants to give him a day off. i never understood that.

    i think the game (and much of the season) can be summed up by what joe simpson said (and I am paraphrasing here), “the braves defense reared its ugly head”. defense has been atrocious this year. maybe it’s time for these boys to start taking infield and shagging bp balls in the outfield again.


  187. 188 eprisewildcat September 21, 2010 at 7:45 am

    Tight well pitched games require great defense and the Braves gloves cracked just a little bit. Tough play for J-Hey but it’s one that he’s got to make. Tip of the cap to C.Hamels because he was pitching like an ace last night. Lets strap on the leotards tonight boys cause we need a win!

    GO BRAVES!!!


  188. 189 Voice of Raisins September 21, 2010 at 8:00 am

    You know, it was a pretty good game. Beachy was pretty dang solid. We were undone by 2 errors: HayMaker’s was a killer, but the throwing error on Mac… was the throw that bad or did Prado just miss it? On the replay, it looked pretty catchable. Anyway, HeyStack flubs Victorino’s ball, Victorino scores. The throw gets into CF on Utley’s steal, Utley scores. It ain’t rocket surgery.

    People across the street are jumping off of bridges (I wish) because MelkDud was in the game and hit into that “key” double play. My answer is simple. First, I submit to the numbers that Klobber just cited. Second, Nate has certainly been hitting much better. But there is great disparity between his numbers against lefties and righties. Not even close. And when you have a guy coming around, who you know you need to come up big over the next 2 weeks, do you really want to put him in a situation where the cards are already stacked against him? Maybe not.

    Plus, it is compulsory that I point out that Prado hit into two “key” double plays. Two. Dos. Deux. два. Offensive backbreakers. Nobody is clamoring for his head on a stick.

    Anybody notice how Prado has been struggling at the plate in September? Anybody notice how the team has been struggling in September? Correlation? Uh… yeah! Ya think?!?

    Here’s the deal, though. Last night is done and gone. A vapor. Kaput. Tonight we have Halladay. He hasn’t been quite as dominant lately. Go get ’em!


  189. 190 chrisklob September 21, 2010 at 12:05 pm

    People across the street are jumping off of bridges (I wish) because MelkDud was in the game and hit into that “key” double play.

    One of the main reasons I don’t bother to go over there any more. Melky will do something great tonight and they’ll deify him.


  190. 191 berigan2electricboogaloo September 21, 2010 at 12:10 pm

    maybe it’s time for these boys to start taking infield and shagging bp balls in the outfield again.
    Chris, for real! 2 Months ago I saw the errors made by team and I think the Reds had made half the errors we had. And the teams with as many errors as the Braves, we were the only team in the playoff hunt, IIRC.

    Hats off to Beachy! There were some hard hit balls, but he did a quite admirable job! Will he get another start? Guess it all depends on the MRI on JJ. (I did hear he was going back to Atlanta for an exam, right?)

    V, I hadn’t noticed hat Prado had slumped this month…yep, hitting only .253. Also saw he has huge splits home vs. road. .353 at home, .269 on the road!

    I also heard(once I left trivia contest) on a pop up that Prado was having trouble going after it, like his leg was clearly bothering him…anyone notice this on TV?
    He really needs a day off if he’s that bad off, but I am sure he won’t ask for one, and I certainly can understand Bobby not taking him out, at least for the Phils series. But, he needs a day off and soon….oh, just checked, I thought we didn’t have a day off this week, but the braves are off Thursday….

    Braves shouldn’t have made those errors(You never know with Bobby, but he did say the ball knuckled on JHey) but 1 run???

    What I saw of the game(innings 1-5, then 8-9) it really looked like the hitters didn’t have a plan, and were swinging at everything. Braves pitchers allowed 6 walks, Phils pitchers only 1.

    And they really seemed clueless against Lidge. Slider, swing and a miss,at a pitch that ended up 2 inches off the ground… gee does he throw a slider? 🙄 Let me swing harder next time! Only good pitch I saw from him was an outside fastball with one strike on Lee(after he swung at the slider)

    Again, sure it’s possible to win 2 games against the Phils, but gotta win one first…and today is a very big game with a guy out there not used to pitching big games…Time for the bats to come alive!


  191. 192 berigan2electricboogaloo September 21, 2010 at 12:18 pm

    Melky is only hitting .231 as a righty this year…I guess the truth is there wasn’t a good option to hit against a lefty last night..


  192. 193 Voice of Raisins September 21, 2010 at 1:04 pm

    it really looked like the hitters didn’t have a plan, and were swinging at everything

    Oh, they had a plan, it was just a very bad one.

    They should have worked the counts deeper so that they could have gotten those wretched Philly relievers in the game earlier. They really did Hamels – and the whole Philly team – a favor by swinging so early in the count. It’s not really typical of them this year. Makes me wonder about the pressure of the game… 🙄


  193. 194 Voice of Raisins September 21, 2010 at 1:08 pm

    Melky will do something great tonight


    Hmmm… searching for words here…

    You, sir, have left me speechless. It is a rare feat.


  194. 195 Voice of Raisins September 21, 2010 at 4:28 pm

    2night’s lineup:

    1. Omar, 2B
    2. Heymaker, RF
    3. Tired-o, 3B
    4. Mac, C
    5. DLee, 1B
    6. Nate, LF -wait… Wha?! 😯
    7. Gonzo, SS
    8. Ankle, CF
    9. Minor, P

    Well, that is certainly interesting.


  195. 196 Voice of Raisins September 21, 2010 at 4:55 pm

    Well, after pondering this lineup for a little while, I have drawn the following conclusion:

    Bobby must see this as a low scoring game, and must be valuing defense and speed. That’s gotta be it.


  196. 197 chrisklob September 21, 2010 at 5:05 pm

    Raisins, it was hypothetical.

    But don’t forget, a stopped clock is right twice a day (except, of course, for the digital ones).


  197. 198 Voice of Raisins September 21, 2010 at 5:32 pm

    Even the ones that blink 12:00 are right… right… right… right… right… right… right… right… right… right… right… right… right… right… right… right… right… right… right… right… right… right… right… right… right… right… right… right…



  198. 199 Voice of Raisins September 21, 2010 at 5:36 pm

    Courtesy of Mr. O’B:

    Jurrjens has a slight horizontal meniscus tear, not a flap tear (which would be more problematic). Cox said he thinks Jurrjens will make his next start. If he can’t go, Beachy will Sunday vs. Nationals.

    I say sit him. Why risk complications? It isn’t exactly like he’s had it dialed in over his last few starts anyway.


  199. 200 Voice of Raisins September 21, 2010 at 5:40 pm

    I want JJ good and healthy for October so that he can help propel us to victory, and drive up his trade value for the offseason. 😀


  200. 201 berigan2electricboogaloo September 21, 2010 at 6:08 pm

    V, I was thinking defense as well…as much of a bandbox that park is, center is big, and wide…plus Mr. Ankle does run into pitches, though I don’t know if he will get any hangers from Halliday.

    I would hold onto JJ unless we get someone really special, which I don’t think we would.

    All those swell arms in the minors??? Well, remember how terrible Smoltz and Glavine were at first?
    Can we really afford to go into next year with 2 guys in their mid to upper 30’s, Hanson, and 2 rookie starters???
    I might feel better about it if Minor is lights out his next few starts..


  201. 202 eprisewildcat September 21, 2010 at 8:51 pm

    I’m with you Raisins. I think JJ needs a major resurgence to up his trade value. To me JJ has a fragile nature that some other team can deal with. Of course if he were to make some meaningful starts down the stretch and post season I might change my mind.

    Great job by Ankle of using his arm to deflect the ball on yet another potential double play. Well at least we didn’t get skunked tonight.

    GO BRAVES!!!


  202. 203 flbravesgirl September 21, 2010 at 10:18 pm

    My hope is slipping away. I’m usually still glass half-full when others are stepping out to the ledge but I’m searching for something positive here.

    Freddie’s 1st home run, that’s a positive.


  203. 204 berigan2electricboogaloo September 21, 2010 at 10:38 pm

    FBG, I know…Missed the game, glad F.F. got a homer! From the post game show, sounds like more errors, and Minor missed a bunt signal??? Apparently the bunt he saw the first time, no signal the next time, but that meant the bunt was already on, he just said…Bobby didn’t seem to have kind words for him…he has to realize he has only 8-9 starts…too big a game for a rookie, IMO.
    Said the weather was not a factor…but fatigue might be…can’t locate like he could like he could earlier…
    Well, best chance for a win is tomorrow…


  204. 205 chrisklob September 21, 2010 at 11:04 pm

    raisins and wildcat, with all due respect, are you really suggesting they trade JJ? Seriously?

    Can we really afford to go into next year with 2 guys in their mid to upper 30′s, Hanson, and 2 rookie starters???

    I do hope you weren’t including KK in your list of 30+ year olds! That guy is a DFA in my mind. If Lowe were tradeable, which he’s not unless FW is willing to eat a LOT of salary, I’d be happy to see him go. He’s been incredibly mediocre during his time in ATL. As for Huddy, remember, he’s coming back from a pretty serious operation. He missed a year, pitched 42 in seven appearances last year and has logged 210 innings this year. While I don’t think he’ll win the Cy Young, he’s certainly been in the conversation. I’m not quite ready to send him to the glue factory.

    Did a little looking around tonight and found this about Mike Minor and the innings he’s pitched the last few years. This will probably look like hell but here goes:
    2007 (Vandy) 90.1
    2008 (Vandy) 103.1
    2009 (Vandy) 110.2
    2009 (Rome) 14.0
    2009 (Total) 125.2
    2010 (Miss) 87.0
    2010 (Gwinnett)33.1
    2010 (Atlanta) 37.0 (not including tonight’s innings)
    2010 (Total) 157.1

    If Minor is tired, and he claimed that he’s not in the post game report, it wouldn’t surprise me. What baller is going to come clean and say they’re worn out? How much can we expect him or Huddy to have left in the tank?

    Gotta say that I don’t like the way things are stacked up. The starting 5 seem to be tired and the bats aren’t coming up with clutch hits. This is not a good position to be in with ten to play and the playoffs (maybe) ahead.


  205. 206 chrisklob September 21, 2010 at 11:08 pm

    Oh and congrats to FF on a massive homerun!!! Bonus is that it came off a big name pitcher!


  206. 207 Voice of Raisins September 22, 2010 at 9:10 am

    Ugh… missed the whole game last night. I guess I’m glad I did.

    Can’t get swept. Can’t get swept.

    I can’t even talk about it, it’s so depressing. Can we talk about something more cheery? How about the economy?


  207. 208 Voice of Raisins September 22, 2010 at 12:12 pm

    OK… here is how I see it…

    (You all knew it’d be impossible for me to stay silent too long, didn’t you?)

    Have we screwed ourselves out of the Division title? Probably. Having the final 3 at thome against ’em at least gives a fighting chance, but can we make up at least 2 games over the next 7? Better start tonight.

    I can see Philly having a bit of an emotional lull after this series, making them at least a little vulnerable vs. wait… Who? The Mets? At home? Crap. Never mind. Just disregard this paragraph.

    We really need to salvage 1 game out of this series. Being only 1 game up in the WC, it’s tough to get anybody any rest, and Pardo (homage to Charlie Manuel) needs a couple of days off. Probably more. Even if we make it to the dance, we need Pardo healthy or we’re going nowhere. In case you haven’t noticed, as Pardo goes, so go the Braves. Check it. It’s true.

    And Omar might as well not worry about getting the required 502 AB’s for the batting title either. He, too, has cooled off a bit. Methinks the boys have already peaked, and are now just trying to hang on.

    Gut check time. We have to come out battling hard tonight, get some knocks in against Big Boy Roy, and then – as Bobby likes to say – just play ’em one at a time.

    Nats and Fish. Nats and Fish. C’mon boys. Keep the push!


  208. 209 chrisklob September 22, 2010 at 7:26 pm

    McLouth in the 3-hole?


    Has Bobby given up entirely?


  209. 210 chrisklob September 22, 2010 at 7:34 pm

    Please disregard that last comment! I thought it was first inning!


  210. 211 Voice of Raisins September 22, 2010 at 9:28 pm

    Funny thing is, K, Nate has been hitting more like a 3 hole guy than Pardo lately…

    Wait, that’s not funny!


  211. 212 berigan2electricboogaloo September 22, 2010 at 9:45 pm

    ever watch a cat play with a bug, or a lizard??? You know the little creature just doesn’t have a chance….


  212. 213 chrisklob September 22, 2010 at 9:52 pm

    yes ber, i have. i’ve also noticed that the bug or lizard doesn’t know they don’t have a chance……..


  213. 214 chrisklob September 22, 2010 at 9:57 pm

    Hats off to Hanson for pitching his brains out. That seems to be a good sign for the future.

    I can’t believe that lollipop throw that McLouth threw in. If he’d sent that in the way he has been taught since he was old enough to throw it on a line there might well have been a play at the plate.


  214. 215 flbravesgirl September 22, 2010 at 10:05 pm

    Shame to waste that excellent pitching from Tommy. He did his part. Everyone else just looks like they’ve run out of gas.


  215. 216 berigan2electricboogaloo September 22, 2010 at 10:11 pm

    Chris, good point…
    This felt like the playoffs…no offense, good defense(today)Tommy was beyond great tonight!!!

    Braves just seem panic stricken at the plate. No clue how to approach an AB (Except for HJey in the 9th, only hitter with an actual idea in his head) Lidge was not nearly as good tonight, but it didn’t matter…sigh….

    Ok, let me get some bitterness out….no sense holding it in.

    At least part of problem with the Phils is they have much more money to spend the the Braves do. Of course, they draw much better too…

    If we had signed Ibanez couple years back, we might have gotten into the playoffs last year, or this year(I know, we still could get in this year)…Instead they went with a cheap pitcher from Japan, that isn’t that good, and is so deep in Bobby’s doghouse, he can’t see the light of the opening.

    Just can’t have a complete lack of production from 2/3rds of our outfield.

    Phils have better hitters at 1st, 2nd(arguably, more power for sure) SS(when healthy, hey they swept us without their former MVP!) left, center and Right(at least this year)

    They have more team speed. Better defense. Their top three starters could beat up our top three, easily, if that had, you know, actually happened.

    Their owners are much more willing to spend money, which is where this rant started, isn’t it???

    And their manager is…well, anyway….

    Ok….we can’t compete with the big boys when the pressures on…at least right now….so, have to hope the Pads, Giants and Rockies beat up on each other and we can sneak in the wildcard and we can play teams like the Pads or Reds that don’t have 3 great starters or that great an offense…and whoever plays the Phils out duels them…wait, would the wildcard team play the team with the best record??? Sigh…..


  216. 217 Carolina Lady September 22, 2010 at 10:26 pm

    Well, I’m like the Braves – NOT in the BSOML. I hate this for Bobby. And Chipper. They both wanted to go to the playoffs with a legitimate chance of winning.


  217. 218 eprisewildcat September 22, 2010 at 10:26 pm

    WOW!!! We lose on a ball that barely caught some chalk deep in the left field corner. Nate got a great bounce off the wall but then made one of the worst throws to the cut off man ever. Oh yeah… there were some Manny made, but you know what I mean.

    I’m trying to not let this affect my mood but losing the way we have is just hard to stomach. There is no other sport that can twist you into knots for such a long period as baseball. I’m really tired of seeing the Braves give great effort but still lose. Oh well… let’s sweep the Gnats and lets see where we’re at.

    GO BRAVES!!!


  218. 219 Voice of Raisins September 22, 2010 at 10:37 pm

    Couple that throw with some of his recent non-throws, and I am convinced the dude has a sore arm. No other explanation for that fungo throw.

    And while it was a “great baseball game to watch” – DISCLAIMER: I only saw the 7th-9th innings – it sucks to come out on the wrong end… again. 😡


  219. 220 berigan2electricboogaloo September 22, 2010 at 10:43 pm

    Sticking up for Nate a bit, he knew the Caveman was running with two outs and made a great play off the wall, but hurried his throw, and threw flatfooted….I don’t think even a good relay gets him….
    Folks, we got one hit, ONE! Scored 4 runs in 3 games. Just ain’t gonna win anything with that kind of effort.
    Each inning that passed, I told Dad, it’s just a matter of time. Oswalt got to rest while Tommy had to work in and out of trouble. The Phils forever had runners on. I don’t think the braves hit one ball hard, did they? Perhaps a Ball Nate hit to 2nd???

    CL, I feel sorry for Bobby too. As much as I am really looking forward to a new manager next year, I wanted to see him go out a winner this year, at least getting to the playoffs…
    As a Phillie fan on a jazz forum said(they are much nicer than the ones that crawl thru the AJC)

    Berigan- I’m a Phillies fan and I remember all those years when the Braves trotted out Smoltz, Maddox and Glavine and they killed us every year/ It’s payback time!!

    I think she is right…we are still getting paid back for all the years we just put a team on the field with rejects in Left(that goodness those days are over! 😉 ) and rejects for a bullpen, and as 4th and 5th starters, and won the division….


  220. 221 Voice of Raisins September 23, 2010 at 6:41 am

    Never rejects as 4th and 5th starters. Denny Neagle? Nah… John Thomson? Nah… Those guys were good. Real good. Woulda been 1 or 2 on most other teams. Sprinkle in a talented rookie (Jason Schmidt) here and there and you had a dominant staff.

    Those were guys you knew you could get a couple of productive years out of with confidence. Then, when their time was done, the homeboy upstairs would trade them off for value and start the cycle over. Invariably, they’d wilt for their new teams.

    Ah… good times…


  221. 222 berigan2electricboogaloo September 23, 2010 at 7:11 am

    Well, I will agree about Denny Neagle, but John Thomson? Had to look up his numbers, had one decent year, then was injured, and put up KK numbers….I guess I am thinking of the Jorge Sosa types, you know, no good before coming here, good for maybe one season…and I thought Jason Schmidt was better for us…funny how foggy the memory gets. 6.75 ERA in 1996 and was the player to be named later in the Neagle trade…forgot all about that….

    Spent some time reading what is really chat from the St. Louis paper about the Cards…we think we have it bad…a lot of people (Ok, fans mainly) think the Cards have quit on LaRussa…sounds like they have a very tense clubhouse…and have been losing to the Pirates, the worst team in baseball…see, things can always be worse! 😉

    We have a 1/2 game lead in the wildcard, Giants are now the team behind us. If they win in Chicago, they will be tied with us. Cubs are really playing good ball now, 18-8 under, under…whoever replaced Lou Pinella.

    Poor guy, has the team playing great ball, and I never hear his name as a potential manager for them next year.
    Bet he catches on as a manager somewheres….


  222. 223 eprisewildcat September 23, 2010 at 7:30 am

    Brings to mind Steve Avery and Kent Mercker as competent 4th starters for the Braves. Avery reminds me of Hanson because he seemingly never gets run support. We did trot out a bunch of other guys who never developed. But man did we have some pitching! I think we still have great pitching but not the likes of Haliday, Hamels, and Oswalt. Yankees manangemnt must be totally greeen with envy that they got stuck with Vasquez and Burnett. Hahahaha!!!

    GO BRAVES!!!


  223. 224 berigan2electricboogaloo September 23, 2010 at 8:10 am

    Wildcat, I am VERY Glad we didn’t get Burnett, but at the time he signed with the Yankees, I was really mad we couldn’t get him to come to the ATL! Lowe was a lot cheaper, and better, all things considered…


  224. 225 Voice of Raisins September 23, 2010 at 8:12 am

    The formula to compliment the “Big 3” was one veteran and one rookie.

    Veteran pitchers:

    Charlie Liebrandt, Mike Bielecki, Denny Neagle, Paul Byrd, Terry Mulholland, John Burkett, Russ Ortiz, Jaret Wright, John Thomson…

    All perfect #4 starters.

    These guys gave us 1 or 2 quality years, moved on, and fell of the chart.

    And there was the one classic whiff in the bunch… JS’s worst signing of all time – Albie Lopez. Remember him?


    Steve Avery, Pete Smith, Kent Mercker, Jason Schmidt, Kevin Millwood, Odalis Perez, Damian Moss, Jason Marquis…

    All #5’s or better.

    These guys came up with big promise, gave us 1 or 2 quality years, and were traded to fill needs.

    Avery, of course, was injured and never fully recovered or we’d be talking about the “Big 4”.

    Yep, the formula was simple. And it worked as long as the “Big 3” were the foundation.

    Now the bullpens..? Bleh! 🙄


  225. 226 Gil in Mechanicsville September 23, 2010 at 9:55 am

    Lemonade anyone? 😦


  226. 227 Voice of Raisins September 23, 2010 at 11:56 am

    Gil, I’m afraid this batch is a bit sour. 😛


  227. 229 Voice of Raisins September 23, 2010 at 8:49 pm

    Wow… just wow…


  228. 230 Voice of Raisins September 24, 2010 at 7:11 am

    I was looking at the standings this morning, something I have begun doing lately as part of my morning routine… you know:

    wake up, make coffee, brush teeth, read bible/pray, check standings, etc…

    Anyway, I noticed something. For all the wailing and gnashing of teeth – especially across the street where Bobby Cox and Frank Wren are situated just below Osama Bin Laden on the list of Atlanta’s favorite people – do you realize that there are only 4 teams in all of baseball with a better season record than our beloved Braves? This despite a dreadful April including the infamous 9 game losing streak.

    Yep, just 4. Unfortunately, one of those is in our division.

    Not so shabby if you ask me. Of course, nobody did… 😀


  229. 231 berigan2electricboogaloo September 24, 2010 at 7:45 am
  230. 233 Gil in Mechanicsville September 24, 2010 at 2:49 pm

    Hi folks, I am still undecided as to whether or not to attend the game Sunday.

    Sigh, would really like it better if the Braves had at lest taken that last game from the Phillies.


  231. 234 berigan2electricboogaloo September 24, 2010 at 4:51 pm

    Gil, see if they win tonight and tomorrow first! If they lose, forget about it!
    Bet you never would have thought of this! 😉


  232. 235 berigan2electricboogaloo September 24, 2010 at 9:05 pm

    Wow…4-1 Nats in the 6th, Hudson out….ever miss Smoltz, Maddux and Glavine???


  233. 236 berigan2electricboogaloo September 24, 2010 at 9:33 pm

    make it 7-1 after super-duper star Willie Harris hits an inside the park home run….so, which team will you adopt, and root for when the playoffs start???

    I like underdogs like the Reds…or should I root for the Phils just to shut up the AL is the majors and the NL is AAAA? Or how about the Rays with a small payroll?

    Decisions, decisions….


  234. 237 Voice of Raisins September 24, 2010 at 9:57 pm

    I am disgusted…


  235. 238 berigan2electricboogaloo September 24, 2010 at 10:36 pm

    And now Jurrjens has been scratched from Sundays game. I’d guess he will need surgery…man, how things have gone south in a blink of an eye!

    If the Reds beat the Pads, we still will have the lead in the W.C….somehow….


  236. 239 eprisewildcat September 24, 2010 at 11:12 pm

    I just don’t know what to say. Kinda like taking a shot to the mid-section. OK… so, we take the remaining two against the Gnats and then sweep the Fish and Phils. I think that might get us in the wildcard. Of course beating the Gnats sounds like an impossible task. Geeeeeezzzzz!!!

    GO BRAVES!!!


  237. 240 berigan2electricboogaloo September 25, 2010 at 6:24 am

    a nice story about the braves for a change….
    Lowe, five other Braves, visit Walter Reed Army Medical Center


  238. 241 berigan2electricboogaloo September 25, 2010 at 9:38 am

    Early game today berigan, 1 pm! Thanks, but I will likely be asleep then. Hope they win, that stud Livan is on the mound Sunday….


  239. 242 Gil in Mechanicsville September 25, 2010 at 4:58 pm

    Yea team… Derek Lowe is showing why he is worth every penny of that $15 million the Braves signed him for. Best pitcher on the staff right now on a staff full of tired arms.


  240. 244 Carolina Lady September 26, 2010 at 12:17 am

    per Fox Sports:

    “This season will be the future Hall-of-Famer’s last as a manager, but he plans to stay with the franchise as an adviser for the next five years.”


  241. 245 berigan2electricboogaloo September 26, 2010 at 7:24 am

    Gil, you are exactly right! He does not have to pitch with that bone chip causing problems, but he’s a winner, and he really has been our most consistant starter the past few weeks, when everyone else has faltered a bit

    And congrats to Bobby for getting his 2500th win.

    Now, can we beat up on Livan like very other team does???


  242. 246 berigan2electricboogaloo September 26, 2010 at 8:22 am

    Aroldis Chapman threw the fastest recorded fastball ever Friday… 105!!!!


  243. 247 eprisewildcat September 26, 2010 at 8:38 pm

    On the bright side… the Braves won’t have to play the Nationals in the playoffs. Earlier today I couldn’t even joke about our frustrating team. Well at least the Falcons won today and my Troy Trojans won yesterday. Did I mention we had to spend two hours under the bleachers when they suspended play for lighting shortly before halftime of the Troy game. The rain downpour was almost Biblical so we were standing in a couple inches of water as the lightning cracked and thunder boomed. Still we had a great time and were thankful for the rain which has avoided this area for many weeks.

    GO BRAVES!!!


  244. 248 Voice of Raisins September 26, 2010 at 10:48 pm

    OK, so I have been accused of being an unrealistic optimist on more than one occasion…

    If you had asked me in April how I’d feel if the Braves were within 1/2 game of the wildcard with 6 games to play, my response would be simple. “I would be elated!”

    Well, the Braves are within 1/2 game of the wildcard with 6 games to play. They have a good chance at 90 wins. With the G-men, the Fathers and the Rox all beating up on each other, I still like our chances.

    Now, excuse me while I take off these rose colored glasses. They are a bit uncomfortable. 😐


  245. 249 Gil in Mechanicsville September 27, 2010 at 6:54 am

    I am just speechless…


  246. 250 Voice of Raisins September 27, 2010 at 10:06 am

    Oh… I have some speech. Do I ever have some speech…

    However, this is a family blog, and I have worked very hard to eliminate certain words and actions from my character. 😡


  247. 251 berigan2electricboogaloo September 27, 2010 at 10:07 am

    Gil, I know what you mean!
    If you can’t beat the last place team in your division, how can you expect to beat beat, you know, good teams, come playoff time???

    And if you can’t beat a soft tosser like Livan Hernandez…
    Check out his last 10 games at the bottom of this page, and see how good he’s been against the braves, and not good the rest of the time…

    Biting my tongue about Bobby….did you know David Ross has 5 AB’s for the month of September?? He could pinch hit, couldn’t he??? We do have 3 catchers on the team, right??? What’s that long time rookie’s name??? Hmmm, don’t see it on the list of batters…oh, J.C. Boscan. All month, and not even one inning in a game?
    Well, kinda hard to take out the hot hittig McCann, he’s hitting .237 for Sept, with one homer Back on the 2nd) and 6 RBI’s! Why isn’t he producing??? Gee, you don’t suppose he might be just a bit tired do ya? 🙄
    Did ya know that Infante has played in every scheduled game since July 28th?
    Hit .344 with 5 HR’s and 11 RBi’s in Aug, .273 with 1 HR and 6 RBI’s this month.

    Prado has played in every game since coming off the DL August 17th.

    Hitting .255 this month.

    JHey is hitting .291 with an amazing .430 OBP,(guess teams are pitching around him since he is about the only threat in the lineup right now) but has only 2 HR’s and 7 RBI’s, and has played in every game since August 16th.

    I know these guys need to be in there, but what is the point if they aren’t productive???

    Why didn’t they get a day off when we were in first???

    I know the starters have faltered. I know the bullpen is worn out, and I think Chipper being out has hurt the team more than most of us might have thought it would…but, the team is just flat out punchless at the plate.

    Teams like the Yankees or Phils can beat up on teams when their starting pitching isn’t up to snuff.

    We can’t. I read the box scores about walks, errors, etc costing the braves the game. Scoring only 2 runs against a Livan is what cost them the game….Not scoring runs is what is going to cost the team a spot in the playoffs…


  248. 252 berigan2electricboogaloo September 27, 2010 at 10:11 am

    Guess I didn’t bite my tongue too much… 😕


  249. 253 berigan2electricboogaloo September 27, 2010 at 11:23 am

    Wildcat, glad you and everyone else was safe under the bleachers! 😯


  250. 254 Voice of Raisins September 27, 2010 at 1:15 pm

    Yes, Ber, there is plenty of blame and fault to spread around throughout the team. You can just about go player by player and dole out a portion of one amount or another.

    But I think you really hit on it in a couple of areas. The team is tired. They tried to compensate for the loss of Chipper internally. It meant a handful of others ramping up their games. And they did. They just couldn’t sustain it.

    I can’t help but wonder what may have been if Frank had managed to acquire an impact player at the deadline… you know, like Philly did, or San Diego, or the Rangers, or the Yanks? Heck, even the dysfunctional Dodgers managed to pick up a couple of guys who might have helped any other team that had not tied their own metaphorical shoestrings together.

    We needed a middle of the lineup threat, we got Rick Ankiel. We needed help in the outfield, we got Kyle Farnsworth. No slight to Farnsy personally, but I think Dunn and Kimbrel kinda served notice that we could have simply called one or both of them up, ya know?

    Yeah, I know Prado might could use a day off. But he’s a leader; the team feeds of off him. I can’t speak highly enough about Omar. I am a fan. A big one. He has earned a full time gig in my estimation, and I can’t remember the last time I saw a guy make so many great plays at 2B. (I wonder if Prado can play left field, he wondered to himself..?)

    I’ll tell you what may truly be the real poop about this team in 2010. I’m not so sure they aren’t in reality exactly who they seem like right now. But in June, Glaus lost his mind, and Hinske fired all his jets at once. Those two guys propelled us into a higher level than anyone thought we’d attain. And once we got there, and those 2 had spent their ammo, we thought we belonged there. I’m not so sure. Yep, like I said earlier, if you’d have told me in April that we’d be only 1/2 game out of the WC with less than a week to go, I’d have been happy and content.

    We’re only 1/2 game out of the WC with less than a week to go, and I’m neither happy nor content.

    Funny thing about perspective, though. 1/2 game out is a 1/2 game out. Or is it? ❓


  251. 255 Gil in Mechanicsville September 27, 2010 at 2:47 pm

    I agree, it’s like asking a guy who has never bunted in a game before to suddenly lay down the perfect sacrifice in a critical situation. Prado needs a break, so does Infante’. BMac needs a blow big time. If we, “just fans” can see it, why can’t Bobby? Oh well, soon I can go out of town and not worry about missing games.

    I got good news and bad news about my truck today. I have been having issues with it shuttering going up hill and thought it to be a transmission problem. Well, dropped it off today. Good news, not the transmission, bad news, it’s not the transmission. Augghhhhh!!!!


  252. 256 Carolina Lady September 27, 2010 at 5:12 pm

    Haven’t had any meaningful rain in several months. Have 7″ today and it’s still pouring steadily. Predicted to continue through tonight and into tomorrow. God answers prayers! 🙂


  253. 257 Carolina Lady September 27, 2010 at 5:13 pm

    Oops. Almost 8″ now. 😀


  254. 258 Voice of Raisins September 27, 2010 at 5:39 pm

    2night’s lineup, if anyone cares:

    1. Infatigue, 2B
    2. HeyStack, RF
    3. Tired-o, 3B
    4. McGassed, C
    5. DLee, 1B
    6. Nate, LF
    7. Gonzo, SS
    8. Ankle, CF
    9. Big Red, P


  255. 259 eprisewildcat September 27, 2010 at 6:29 pm

    Color me optimistic y’all. Back in the Ted should do wonders for everyone’s spirits. We need to have a three day fish fry with a day off on Thursday to rest. Come back Friday to kick the daylights out of them big bad Phillies. The weather is perfect in Atlanta for some Braves baseball. Let’s get it on!

    GO BRAVES!!!


  256. 261 berigan2electricboogaloo September 27, 2010 at 7:50 pm

    V, good point on Glaus and Hinske hitting better than we could have hoped, and perhaps put us up beyond where we belonged…Have you ever seen two guys hit so well then drop off the face of the earth, in the same year????

    And the name changes were pretty funny V! 😆

    CL, glad you got so much rain, perhaps you guys prayed too hard! 😉

    Wildcat, nothing wrong with being an optimist, I few wins will change everything!

    OF course, the rain has to stop first before they can win…no rain on the southside for about 2 hours….


  257. 262 berigan2electricboogaloo September 27, 2010 at 7:53 pm

    8.80…wow CL, are you and your neighbors going to build an Ark? :mrgreen:


  258. 263 Voice of Raisins September 27, 2010 at 8:07 pm

    Aw… Hanley is out of 2night’s lineup for the FishSticks. Might even miss the whole series. I am so disappointed…



  259. 264 berigan2electricboogaloo September 27, 2010 at 9:08 pm

    Breaks my heart too V! 😛

    Well, the offense is non existant so far but Tommy’s pitching like a champ, and those two plays by Prado and Infante, have you ever seen 2 better plays in the same inning??? 😯


  260. 265 berigan2electricboogaloo September 27, 2010 at 9:13 pm

    Finally! McCann hits a homer, Tommy finally has a lead to work with! Told ya McCann has to be in every game! 😕


  261. 266 berigan2electricboogaloo September 27, 2010 at 9:33 pm

    And Prado really hurt himself on a swing and is out of the game! 😦 Don’t know if it’s his hip, or side, or what…


  262. 267 eprisewildcat September 27, 2010 at 9:45 pm

    ber… hard to tell what’s hurting Marteeen. Wear and tear of a long season becoming evident. Brooks has come up big for us when called upon. Baseball sure is a tough sport.

    D.Lee swings sp smooth on those strikeouts. Well… sometimes he just stands there without swinging and looks good. Arrrggghhh!!!

    GO BRAVES!!!


  263. 268 chrisklob September 27, 2010 at 10:18 pm

    Well, on the night that the Philthies clinch the East, the bats decide not to show up — AGAIN! At least there were a couple of real nice defensive plays which has been quite rare of late. Hats off to Tommy Hanson for pitching a terrific game and hats off to the fans in the stadium that recognized his efforts as he was being pulled.

    Prado has a hip pointer, an injury I’ve never heard in a baseball player, only in football. They say he’s “day to day” but my guess is that he’s done for the year or if he is able to play he’ll be ineffective.

    Folks, I’m not hear to dump 8.80″ of rain on anyone 😉 but I’m not liking the way things are shaping up. Too many injuries. Too many guys that look tired and are ineffective.


  264. 269 Voice of Raisins September 27, 2010 at 11:10 pm

    Man, Derrek Lee has one really beautiful swing. Now if only he could hit the ball…


  265. 270 Voice of Raisins September 27, 2010 at 11:10 pm

    Wow… maybe I shoulda said, “Now if only he could hit the ball… over the fence.”


  266. 271 berigan2electricboogaloo September 27, 2010 at 11:11 pm

    he did finally….missed it by that much, as Maxwell Smart might say…. man this game is torture!!!! :X


  267. 272 berigan2electricboogaloo September 27, 2010 at 11:34 pm



  268. 273 berigan2electricboogaloo September 27, 2010 at 11:38 pm

    that was supposed to be INFANTE but I guess wordpress didn’t like me putting too many same letters in a row….
    But that’s ok…man, did you think they would ever score another run????

    Braves win, braves win!!!! :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:


  269. 275 Voice of Raisins September 27, 2010 at 11:43 pm

    Exhale slowly…


  270. 276 berigan2electricboogaloo September 27, 2010 at 11:45 pm

    oh right, breathe….I guess I should do that! 😳

    These really are playoff games!


  271. 277 Carolina Lady September 28, 2010 at 12:02 am

    “By 9 p.m. on Monday, 10.24 inches had fallen at the Wilmington International Airport. That’s the second greatest rainfall total for a standard day here, according to forecaster Dave Loewenthal of the National Weather Service. The greatest rainfall total for a standard day is 13 inches that fell during Hurricane Floyd in 1999, Loewenthal said.”

    Can you say widespread flooding??! 😆


  272. 278 Gil in Mechanicsville September 28, 2010 at 12:17 am

    CL, it’s really not very Christian like for you folks in Wilmington to be hogging all that rain when all we in Mechanicsville have to show for this is .2 of an inch… It is beginning to look like Lake Lanier here.

    Good win for the Braves tonight. A bit light on the offense but no shortage of drama.

    Yes, the Braves look like they all have been road hard and put away wet. Maybe this team is not as good as we thought all summer long. Maybe the warts are starting to show through. That said, it is going to be a gut wrencher for a lot of Braves fans for the next five days.

    The Rockies are toast now so it is between the Fathers, the Giants and the Braves.


  273. 279 Gil in Mechanicsville September 28, 2010 at 12:21 am

    By the way, anyone else notice the decided lack of scoring in Colorado since Lincecum called out the Rockies for supplying rabbit balls when the home team was batting. A lot like the Phillies and the binoculars in the bullpen, but different…


  274. 280 Voice of Raisins September 28, 2010 at 12:25 am

    Watching the Cubs-Fathers on WGN. Cubs up 1-0 heading into the bottom of the 9th…


  275. 281 Voice of Raisins September 28, 2010 at 12:26 am

    I should be sleeping…


  276. 282 Carolina Lady September 28, 2010 at 12:29 am

    😆 , Gil! I was just looking at some of the photos on the newspaper’s web site. Several feet of water most places. In Brunswick Co (with which you are familiar) it was worse, to the extent that a state of emergency was declared when some of the roads started washing away, main thoroughfares deeply underwater( 17, 74/76), etc. And, it hasn’t stopped raining yet. It’s lighter but still steadily drumming down.

    I’m quite happy to see this water. Even the pine trees were shedding needles to beat the band much earlier than usual. I’m not sure some of the dogwoods will make it – and the grass has been crisp and brown for weeks.

    The paper said our last rainfall of any consequence was in late August. That’s about when you were here, wasn’t it? Sorry I missed y’all again. One of these days we’ll actually make it! 😀

    Off to bed. The canons continually blasting out of the heavens all night didn’t make for very much sleep.


  277. 283 Voice of Raisins September 28, 2010 at 12:34 am

    Tying run on 2nd with 2 out after very close safe call on steal. Man!


  278. 284 Voice of Raisins September 28, 2010 at 12:35 am

    Now a phantom hit batsman!


  279. 285 Voice of Raisins September 28, 2010 at 12:38 am

    And a walk loads the bases. 😯


  280. 286 Voice of Raisins September 28, 2010 at 12:41 am

    Whew! Nick Hundley sends a pretty deep ball to LF, but not long enough. The Fathers fall 1/2 game back of the Braves in the WC hunt. 😀


  281. 287 Gil in Mechanicsville September 28, 2010 at 8:13 am

    CL, The one thing going for ya’ll is sandy soil. It will soak up water like a sponge and other than the fact your grass will grow 12 inches overnight, there will be hardly a trace.

    Raisins, that was some gut wrencher at the end for the Cubbies. Well, for me anyway. Shortly after, I lost the internet so I could not comment.

    The likely loss of Prado for the rest of the season is just another blow for this team.

    This may yet be Bobby Cox’s most masterful season as a manager when you consider the Bravo’s record and the loss of personnel they have sustained this year.

    Huddy has not looked sharp for the past several weeks, I hate it he is going on short rest.

    Hanson pitched a heck of a game last night. Only adds to the lore.


  282. 288 Gil in Mechanicsville September 28, 2010 at 8:45 am

    Josie says she thinks the Braves are done. 😦

    I have thought about this one for a while. I can’t ever remember the Braves leaving so many players in scoring position as they have this year. It’s been maddening. Other than the stretch where Troy and Henski were on fire in June, it seems like the opposing teams play the Braves by having the Braves load the bases so they can’t score…. Maddening I say!!!


  283. 289 eprisewildcat September 28, 2010 at 9:03 am

    Did not know that we were going to have a stay up party last night. Very strange that we find ourselves pulling for a knucklehead like Zambrano but you know this is a pennant race. By any means possible… right? Dempster pitching for the Cubbies tonight. Go Cubs Go, Go Cubs Go!!!

    Chat with y’all tonight.

    GO BRAVES!!!


  284. 290 Voice of Raisins September 28, 2010 at 9:12 am

    The fact is that they have played all but about 6 weeks without any real power in the lineup, no true cleanup hitter since the ASB, and no real #3 hitter since Chipper went down. (If then…)

    The complete lack of power is glaring.

    That said, I still like ’em for the WC from the simple standpoint that the Sans, you know – Fran and Di – get to beat up on each other.

    The Braves will toss Huddy and DLowe on short rest against the Fish, then face a sitting pretty Philly team that has no real purpose over the last series other than to keep the heart rate up.

    That said, we have now lost our second 3B of the season. I had a hip pointer as a teenager. It was very painful. It hurt just to wear pants. That was necessary back then, even if not so much now. It also hurt to breathe. That is still necessary now.

    So a playoff seeking team will likely start Brooks Conrad at 3B. Nothing personal against RawDog, but there’s a reason he isn’t a starting 3B in the Majors. I suppose if we can just get 3 special weeks… But here we go again, asking folks to rise above and beyond yet again.

    Many will call this team underachieving after leading the division from June to September, then hitting the skids. I still contend that they have overachieved all season. And they still are.

    Think about it. We have the league’s best super-sub as our everyday regular 2B and leadoff hitter. We follow that with a kid that was playing high school ball just a couple of years ago. Then we take the hardest working kid in baseball, with a myriad of injuries and ailments, and ask him to come back from a broken finger and be our #3 hitter when he is no more suited for that than he is to pitch… which he’d probably do if you asked him to. Our cleanup hitter all season couldn’t even see when the season started. #5? Well,that’s been a revolving door. Then the group really drops off. We had a SS whose head was bigger than his ability, then swapped him for steady but not exciting. Our CF spent quality time in AAA ball trying to remember what it was that earned him a job in the first place. Left field is the Bermuda Triangle of Turner Field.

    What do we really have? A talented stock of pitchers and pasted together supporting cast. Oh, yeah… a couple of those pitchers were in tiny Pearl, MS when this campaign kicked off.

    Folks, to be in a position to make the playoffs this season is a testament to both management and team leadership. They are where they are on will and determination. If I hear one more idiot across the street call them quitters, I’ll reach through the broadband network and punch ’em in the neck.

    No. These boys bring their best every night. Unfortunately, their best ain’t much to write home about.


  285. 291 berigan2electricboogaloo September 28, 2010 at 11:18 am

    You all know I can be pretty negative on this team, and Bobby, but I would never say this team has quit…if anythihg, they press too much….

    Gil, Josie may be right…in the past several weeks, there was at least a 8-9 run outburst once a week…now….just feels like they are in the playoffs, against great teams…only, they aren’t….

    But, one guy getting hot, would make such a huge difference right now! Anyone, Ankle, Nate, Infante, JHey, McCann, DLee…well, you all know who is on the team.

    Ok…now about the very near future, today. Will JHey finally bat 3rd now???
    Will Glaus be allowed to play 3rd??? Guy played it for years, and claimed it was easier on his knees than 1st base.
    I know, there could be some bunts, well…his knees have to feel better. And the Raw Dog can come in in the late innings…5 games left, need to find some way to add offense….


  286. 292 Voice of Raisins September 28, 2010 at 11:29 am

    Will Glaus be allowed to play 3rd???

    No way. His defense absolutely sucks over there. With runs being so scarce for this team, defense is a priority. That’s why we’ve seen both Nate and Ankle in the same OF lately. Any offensive punch he might provide would be negated by the porous defense he would provide.

    Heck, if we can’t score any runs, we sure better make certain they can’t either.

    Plus, I’d just about take Brooksie’s bat over Troy’s right now as well.

    I suppose there is always the scenario of a platoon. But if I were the opposing manager, I’d flippin’ bunt down the 3rd base to lead off each inning. I’d keep squibbin’ it over there until he proves he can make the play. Scary thought… 😯


  287. 293 Gil in Mechanicsville September 28, 2010 at 12:49 pm

    Have to agree, this has been a team of overachievers all season. Well, only five more to go and if the Braves get in, who knows? Josie is taking her oldest daughter out for dinner tonight as a belated birthday treat. Means I get the house to myself tonight so only one who will be disturbed by my ranting at the TV during the game will be the cat.


  288. 294 Voice of Raisins September 28, 2010 at 3:45 pm

    2night’s lineup, and it ain’t purty:

    1. Omar, 2B
    2. HeyMaker, RF
    3. Mac, C 😯
    4. DLee, 1B
    5. Melky, LF Bleh! 😡
    6. Gonzo, SS
    7. Brooksie, 3B
    8. Ankle, CF
    9. Huddy, P

    Now we not only are playing without a cleanup hitter, we’re also playing without a #3 hitter.

    Gawsh I hope the pitching is as good as it has been!


  289. 295 Carolina Lady September 28, 2010 at 7:45 pm

    I think Josie is right. Again.

    Gil, I think even the sand is getting soggy now. Since midnight, another 2″ + whatever falls between now and 12:00. This afternoon, a flood warning was posted for Wednesday through Friday – when we are forecast to get ANOTHER 6 – 10 inches. 😯
    Went to the grocery store and picked up the few little items we were low/out of because sure-as-shootin’ the road out will flood. Again. Gets 3’+ deep there. 🙄

    Hear me out before you round up a hangin’ party – but I kinda hate to see the Braves to go now post-season for one reason only: I don’t want them to give the Phillies any more chance to gloat. The Braves won’t progress in post-season and it will be just one more loss to deal with. Hope they prove me wrong!


  290. 296 Voice of Raisins September 28, 2010 at 8:01 pm


    Marteeen is out for the rest of the season – regular and post. Hip pointer and torn oblique just above the hip. Minimum 2 months with zero activity.



  291. 297 Voice of Raisins September 28, 2010 at 8:04 pm

    I get what your saying, CL, but the only way they’d meet back up again in post-season is in the NLCS. Can’t play them in the NLDS because we’re in the same division. And I think, even as we are, we can run with San Fran and Cincy. I’ll worry about Philly if/when we get that far.


  292. 298 Voice of Raisins September 28, 2010 at 8:15 pm

    I would never wish an injury on anyone, but why couldn’t have been Melky with the hip deal? Huh? If I never see him in a Braves uni again, it’ll be too soon.


  293. 299 Carolina Lady September 28, 2010 at 8:49 pm

    ” Updated Sep 28, 2010 6:58 PM ET

    The Philadelphia Phillies have chosen to play their NL division series over an eight-day schedule, allowing them to go with a three-man starting rotation because of an extra off day.

    Roy Halladay, Roy Oswalt and Cole Hamels are Philadelphia’s top starters. Phillies manager Charlie Manuel says Tuesday he knows which will start Game 1 at home on Oct. 6, but won’t announce that decision yet. Game 2 will be Oct. 8.

    The Phillies clinched the NL’s best record by beating Washington 8-0 Monday. That allowed them to pick whether to have a seven- or eight-day schedule if the first-round series goes the full five games.

    Manuel also said he will give Ryan Howard and Chase Utley days off before the regular season ends Sunday. Both are in Philadelphia’s lineup against Washington on Tuesday.”


  294. 300 Voice of Raisins September 28, 2010 at 8:53 pm

    Stinker can follow Melky out the door… 😡


  295. 301 eprisewildcat September 28, 2010 at 9:02 pm

    What was Snitker thinking there? I know runs are hard to come by but sending BMac on that play was wishful thinking. I’ve never been to a Greek tragedy but I imagine one to be like the Braves. We can’t help but watch, kinda like a slow developing train wreck. Come on Braves… let’s get some runs!

    GO BRAVES!!!


  296. 302 Voice of Raisins September 28, 2010 at 9:08 pm

    Brooksie!!! 😯


  297. 303 eprisewildcat September 28, 2010 at 9:14 pm

    OH MY!!! Speaking of train wrecks C.Maybin may have broken our fence in right center. Well… he owes us for damaging the pad with his spikes. Hope he is all right!

    Let’s hope we can get the lead here. Scoring opportunities don’t come along very often.

    GO BRAVES!!!


  298. 304 eprisewildcat September 28, 2010 at 9:20 pm

    Just WOW!!! HINSKE!!! That was totally unexpected but it was really cool!

    GO BRAVES!!!


  299. 305 eprisewildcat September 28, 2010 at 9:56 pm

    Well… I think it’s safe to yell BALLGAME! Nice win for our Bravos. Like I said last night… GO CUBS GO, GO CUBS GO!!!

    GO BRAVES!!!


  300. 306 Gil in Mechanicsville September 28, 2010 at 10:07 pm

    YEAH BABY!!!!


  301. 307 flbravesgirl September 28, 2010 at 10:12 pm

    That was more like it. Do y’all think the seams on that ball exploded when Hinske hit it?


  302. 308 flbravesgirl September 28, 2010 at 10:21 pm

    On a less happy note, I have to ask y’all for prayers & good thoughts again. My cousin Christopher was in a very serious car accident yesterday. He has a severe concussion, a punctured lung & a few broken bones besides being black & blue all over. Paramedics & doctors say he’s lucky to be alive. His mom sent a picture of his car & it is only recognizable as a vehicle because the passenger door is hanging off to the side & there are tires under it.


  303. 309 Voice of Raisins September 28, 2010 at 10:30 pm

    I have the Pads-Cubs game on again. I can’t stay up all night again tonight…


  304. 310 eprisewildcat September 28, 2010 at 11:05 pm

    fbg… praying right now for your cousin Christopher. Praying for complete healing and comfort for him and strength for family and friends. Awesome to have loved ones who will ask for prayer!

    There certainly are a great deal of car accidents these days. More and more the cause is being distracted. I can remember only being distracted by my aggravating 8 track player eating my favorite tapes. Today with smart phones, nav systems, ipods, DVD players, televisions, and other assorted electronics, the last thing people are doing on the road is driving.

    GO BRAVES!!!


  305. 311 Voice of Raisins September 29, 2010 at 1:00 am

    Cubbies win 5-2! Braves up 1 1/2 games! I can’t believe I stayed up again…


  306. 312 Gil in Mechanicsville September 29, 2010 at 1:35 am

    You too? Well, at least I don’t have to go to work tomorrow…

    I think the Giants’ magic number is 4.

    Now, if the Braves can just win two more games, I think this season will be a done deal. When you think about all the adversity this club has had this year, it has been a pretty remarkable season.

    Now, here is hoping Bobby can make it really memorable.


  307. 313 berigan2electricboogaloo September 29, 2010 at 7:58 am

    FBG, prayers for your cousin….


  308. 314 berigan2electricboogaloo September 29, 2010 at 8:22 am

    Man, I don’t know if I could have handled watching that game, I might have thrown something at the tv when McCann was trying to score from 3rd. 😆
    Dopes on the AJC were saying he is fat, and that’s why he didn’t score. Never mind that Snitker was beyond stoopid for sending him, never mind that McCann has to be beyond tired having what, one game off in more than a month?
    Anyway, I found out I could actually follow the game on my phone(thought it might cost something like it does for anything else you look into, ringtones, etc) and was talking to a couple we know that are braves fans at Dwarf house and saw it was 1-0 , then saw 1-0 Marlins in the 7th and said, the braves might never score a run again this year! Then saw they did at least tie it up, then we were up 3-1! The other braves fan has a fancier phone, so he found out about the Hinske homer. Sure hope he gets a start in left. Baseball tonight folks were saying how he can also play 3rd, but I would take my chances with Glaus there before Hinske….
    1 1/2 games eh??? A little bit of breathing room. But we really need to win one, and have the Pads lose one more…
    Don’t want to rely on winning a game against the Philthies.
    Hats off to Hudson, to pitch this well when he has to be gassed, and on short rest….
    CL, I don’t get it…I heard a few weeks ago that there wouldn’t be the extra days in the playoff schedule for teams to go with just 3 starters, and yet it’s happening again! 😡
    4:30 game today, don’t forget!


  309. 315 Voice of Raisins September 29, 2010 at 8:24 am

    I heard Bobby in some post-game comments this morning. When asked about Conrad’s triple, he noted how great he has been in late innings, and how valuable he has been off the bench and “now a regular”. Not sure if that slipped out or if he was just talking off the top of his head, but it sure looks like the weight is falling on Brooksie to hold down the hot corner for the next 4 games and whatever follows. Good for him. He is a great example of hard work and determination.

    Now, what to do with the batting order? Maybe MattyD as #3?

    I know one thing… I’d take a big tube of epoxy, spill it on the end of the pine, and plant Melky’s substantial butt right in the middle of it. It’s one thing for his bat to suck – which it does – but when he becomes a defensive liability, dude’s gotta go. Away. Now.


  310. 316 Gil in Mechanicsville September 29, 2010 at 10:24 am

    Well, have you folks figured out who will and who won’t be offered contracts for next season yet?

    Oh wait, have to announce the coaching staff first don’t they…

    Josie and I are already planning for next year’s trip to spring training.

    The Braves have a bunch of guys who are great bench players. Not so many guys who are everyday front line boppers.

    The real trick is to come up with a guy who is more of a Matt Holiday for left field than a Jason Bay.

    Yes Raisins, left field has been a bit of a twilight zone for the Braves this season.

    Henski is fine just where he is, a power guy off the bench. When he was playing everyday, his hitting has suffered for it.

    So, if the Braves make it to the playoffs, do they still need a thirteen man pitching staff?


  311. 317 Gil in Mechanicsville September 29, 2010 at 10:32 am

    And at this point, I think just about any major league team could acquire Kawakami from the Braves if they were willing to pay a mere fraction of Kershin’s salary.

    I am looking for another great game from Derek Lowe today. He has become the $15 million dollar arm the Brave envisioned him to be. His slider has become John Smoltz like.


  312. 318 Voice of Raisins September 29, 2010 at 10:55 am

    I wish I had more of a clue who will be back in ’11, but I think it’s a bit easier to guess who might not be back instead.

    Melky – 3rd year arb, non-tendered
    MattyD – 4th year arb, non-tendered

    Non-tendering those 2 could net the Braves around $6M in savings.

    Troy – signs elsewhere, likely AL
    Wags – retiring
    Saito – should retire
    Proctor – hasn’t come back well from TJ
    Kenshin – with just 1 year left on his deal, he’s actually tradeable. Won’t get much in return, but that probably isn’t he goal.

    Chipper will be back… to finish the remaining 2 years on his deal. Prior to his injury, I’d have bet that he retired with Bobby. Now that he is kind of forced to come back next year to finish “on his terms”, might as well play to the end.

    I’ll bet they make Hinske a fair offer to return. I wouldn’t be surprised at all to see that happen. They’ll probably also look to sign a veteran RH bat that plays 1B to occasionally spell Freddie against tough lefties. Jorge Cantu maybe? The $6M you save from Melky and Matty would pay for Cantu, who could also give Chipper some days off here and there.

    It’s a shame that Jurjjens is gimpy down the stretch. Call me crazy (again) but I would entertain trade offers for JJ this off-season. Why? Well, power hitting OF aren’t affordable on the FA market, but 4th starters are. If you could acquire a power bat for JJ, I’d do it. JJ and pan flash Beachy together might yield a nice return. Then you can sign a FA veteran for the 4th rotation spot. Maybe a crafty lefty. Remember, Julio Teheran and Randall Delgado will be ready for the bigs by 2012. Rotation = Huddy, DLowe, Big Red, crafty vet, Minor. It’s the same formula that was successful for 14 years – big 3, veteran, rookie.

    My biggest question is this: How are you going to play Chipper, Prado and Omar every day?


  313. 319 Voice of Raisins September 29, 2010 at 1:34 pm

    2day’s lineup, 4:35 start:

    1. Omar, 2B
    2. HeyMaker, RF
    3. MattyD, LF
    4. DLee, 1B
    5. Gonzo, SS
    6. DRoss, C
    7. Brooksie, 3B
    8. Melky, CF WHY!!! 😡
    9. DLowe, P

    Melky? Really? In CF, no doubt!?! Aaarrgghhh!!!! 👿


  314. 320 Voice of Raisins September 29, 2010 at 2:57 pm

    Mr. O’B says Hanley is out of their lineup again today.

    Thank you, God. 😀


  315. 321 berigan2electricboogaloo September 29, 2010 at 4:19 pm

    V, I think you are right about the outfielders…we should dump all of them…really a shame Ankle can’t hit like he did with the Cards, cuz he’s a Phenomenal CF’er! Maybe keep him as the 4th outfielder?

    I would worry about having two starters 36 and older, and trading Jurrjens. If one of them is hurt early in the year, what then?

    Plus, I don’t think his value is what is should be…but, perhaps I am wrong. But, to get an actual really good LF’er, we are probably going to have to trade on of the really good guys and hope he isn’t the next Wainwright.

    Man, what is Melky doing in there? Yeah, it’s a lefty, but he doesn’t hit them either. Perhaps he’s hot against Miller???

    I know Hinske is nice to have off the bench, but he hit as a regular earlier in the year and is actually hitting .381 against lefties in only 21-22 ab’s. Hopefully Diaz will rake today!


  316. 322 berigan2electricboogaloo September 29, 2010 at 5:43 pm

    Brooksie is the man!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


  317. 323 Carolina Lady September 29, 2010 at 6:41 pm

    Rats! Following all the flood stuff going on here, I didn’t know it was an afternoon game. 😡

    The water is getting serious now. The places that usually flood won’t be out from underwater for days. The places that rarely flood are flooded. The places that don’t flood are preparing for high water. I’m losing track of the storm totals but I think it’s in the area of/about 18″ of rainfall now – and it’s currently falling at the rate of an inch per hour which will continue for the next four hours at least before slacking off some. That will be 22″ of rain in just a couple of days. We desperately needed rain – but didn’t really count on getting it all at once! :-/


  318. 324 Gil in Mechanicsville September 29, 2010 at 7:10 pm

    WOW CL, that’s a lot of rain…

    Great game today by the way…


  319. 325 Gil in Mechanicsville September 29, 2010 at 7:12 pm

    Oh by the way, I’ll bet that grass isn’t crunchy any longer..


  320. 326 Gil in Mechanicsville September 29, 2010 at 7:13 pm

    Have I said how much I like that kid Kimbrel?


  321. 327 Carolina Lady September 29, 2010 at 8:46 pm

    Don’t know if the grass is crunchy or not, Gil. Can’t see it.

    Oh, Lord! per StarNews Online – Jim Cantore is enroute here. Every time he shows up, that means bad news!



  322. 329 flbravesgirl September 29, 2010 at 9:27 pm

    Never good when Cantore shows up. Do you, Kelly & Littlejohn have a boat handy?

    Christopher is doing pretty well. Sleeping a lot, of course. He’s a lucky kid. Thankfully he was only going about 45 when the truck pulled out in front of him, it could have been much worse.

    Now Braves- Is everyone feeling a little more positive now?


  323. 330 Voice of Raisins September 29, 2010 at 11:47 pm

    FBG: My heartfelt best wishes for Christopher…

    CL: Wow. Is your drought officially over?


  324. 331 eprisewildcat September 30, 2010 at 8:08 am

    CL… praying for ya! The radar images of systems in the Atlantic and Gulf of Mexico all pumping moisture up the east coast is amazing. I see Jim Cantore is soaking wet on the Weather Channel. They are reporting 8000 without power… hope you’re not one of them. Stay safe and dry!

    GO BRAVES!!!


  325. 332 berigan2electricboogaloo September 30, 2010 at 10:25 am

    Hope the rain stops soon CL!


  326. 333 Voice of Raisins September 30, 2010 at 3:20 pm

    Slow day…


  327. 334 Carolina Lady September 30, 2010 at 3:26 pm

    Hi, y’all! I haven’t followed national news but I’m told several news outlets had people reporting from here. Thankfully, my land sits high enough that the house is dry and I (obviously) have both power and internet. Yay! Thanks for your prayers!

    And – it’s still raining…..


  328. 335 Gil in Mechanicsville September 30, 2010 at 4:52 pm

    CL, I was out of line about you folks hogging all the rain. We have enough now so you can make it stop.

    Yes, so baseball day for us. Kind of coming down to the last three games, who would have thunk it?

    Braves really need to take care of their own business. After all, either San Francisco or San Diego will lose 2 out of the last three they play.

    Winning Friday night would be huge for the Braves, having the Cubbies or the Snakes help us out tonight wouldn’t hurt either.

    Truth is, there is one team that is going to be awfully disappointed by Monday.


  329. 336 Carolina Lady September 30, 2010 at 8:18 pm

    I didn’t want to be selfish, Gil! Glad to help out!

    It finally stopped raining here just before dusk and a patch of the sky cleared to show the most beautiful, clear and intensely colored rainbow over the ocean that I’ve ever seen. God’s promise to all the earth.

    Can hardly believe the season is nearly over. Contrary to my claim at the first of the season, I am NOT in the BSOML. Still.


  330. 337 Voice of Raisins October 1, 2010 at 7:46 am

    Here we go… final series, 2 games up in the WC. NO Halladay, likely no Oswalt. Beachy vs. Kendrick in the opener. Honestly, I believe Kawakami could beat Kendrick although I’ll take Beachy, thank you very much.

    And To Be Announced is going 2 starts in a row. I think this is to our advantage. Gotta be tired on the second day, right? 😀

    OK… time to get the bats going and ready for the playoffs. Gotta start tonight.


  331. 338 Voice of Raisins October 1, 2010 at 8:05 am

    So the Fox Network muckety-mucks and Dish Network are in a squabble over fees, and it’s we peons who will suffer.


    I promise, if 2 of the last 3 games in Bobby’s HOF career are blocked on my satellite because these 2 selfish corporations can’t decide on what percentages of a very large pie (which we peons bake, thankyouverymuch) I’ll drop ’em Monday.



  332. 339 chrisklob October 1, 2010 at 10:09 am

    CL, I sure hope that things are starting to dry out up there. Twenty two inches of rain is a LOT of rain!

    Raisins, I wish you luck with Dish/Fox resolving their dispute. Pretty rotten timing on their behalf.

    One piece of good news…. Game 3 of the WS is scheduled to start before 7 pm!



  333. 340 Gil in Mechanicsville October 1, 2010 at 1:07 pm

    Rasins, let me know if you want to switch to DirecTV, we can both get $100..

    One thing I have not had to worry about is dropping programing.


  334. 341 Gil in Mechanicsville October 1, 2010 at 1:08 pm

    And oh by the way, it’s amazing the deals you can get them to agree to if you haggle with them a bit…


  335. 342 chrisklob October 1, 2010 at 3:08 pm

    Isn’t this the company that owns the Braves? WTH are they thinking paying one guy $87 million when they’re not paying a whole lot more than that for the entire Braves payroll?



  336. 343 Gil in Mechanicsville October 1, 2010 at 3:22 pm

    Puts things in prospective doesn’t it?


  337. 344 Gil in Mechanicsville October 1, 2010 at 4:00 pm

    Here is a link to a really good piece on Wagner. A bit long but an excellent read. Gives me even more respect for the man…



  338. 345 chrisklob October 1, 2010 at 4:41 pm

    Great read Gil. Thanks for posting. Gives me more respect for him too. Too bad more players aren’t as down to earth as he is.


  339. 346 Gil in Mechanicsville October 1, 2010 at 6:00 pm

    So… Will Brooks Conrad be the Braves version of Micky Hatcher?


  340. 348 berigan2electricboogaloo October 1, 2010 at 8:08 pm

    😡 😡 😡 😡 😡


  341. 349 berigan2electricboogaloo October 1, 2010 at 9:32 pm

    So, FBG, CL, Wildcat, you don’t have DISH I take???


  342. 350 chrisklob October 1, 2010 at 10:05 pm

    Walked out of the office for a bit and the score was tied. When I came back they’re down by FIVE! What the…….?


  343. 351 berigan2electricboogaloo October 1, 2010 at 11:22 pm

    Chris, same thing happened to me on the radio. Beachy comes out, 2-2, then I tune back in just a few minutes later and it was 7-2….

    Do you have DISH Chris?


  344. 352 flbravesgirl October 1, 2010 at 11:33 pm

    I have Brighthouse cable, Ber. Irrelevant for Braves’ games since I have to buy the ExtraInnings package every year to see any Braves at all. Satellite can be iffy here with our frequent thunderstorms (Y’all do know that the Tampa Bay area is the lightning capital of the world, right?).

    We’re looking at Direct TV for the Tiger house.


  345. 353 chrisklob October 2, 2010 at 12:32 am

    Ber, I’ve got Comcast. Very good service and you can even haggle with them if you need to. I’ve done it a few times.


  346. 354 chrisklob October 2, 2010 at 1:02 am

    Looks like Manuel and Minaya aren’t long for their current positions. Not that it’s a big surprise:


    My favorite part of the article is this: “That would be the honest thing or the integrious thing to do. No question,” Manuel said. “It sounds like everybody got me written off, but nobody’s told me off right now. Kick me to curb — I haven’t even seen the curb.”

    Is his native tongue English?


  347. 355 Gil in Mechanicsville October 2, 2010 at 10:50 am

    Two mistakes last night doomed the Braves, three if you count the missed call by the home plate umpire that would have been strike three on Jason Worth. Worth subsequently hits a double over McLouth’s head that should have been caught but went as a double. Then Conrad makes an errant throw to Infante’ at second that was wide of the bag after Moylan educed a ground ball that was tailor made as an out. After that, the flood gates opened up when Moylan could no longer find the strike zone and Dunn gave up a first pitch grand slam to Rollings. It only got uglier after that.

    Today is another day, thank goodness…. I may go for a ride however and miss the game. I don’t think I can stand to watch this team bungle their way out of the playoffs.

    By the way, Beachy pitched a heck of a game. The 4 runs allowed is a misnomer I think. He looked sharp.


  348. 356 Gil in Mechanicsville October 2, 2010 at 10:54 am

    integrious… People should learn the old adage to never use a word in a sentence that they can’t spell… Of course that would mean that I would be limited to a 100 word vocabulary, but I digress… 🙂


  349. 357 berigan2electricboogaloo October 2, 2010 at 12:00 pm

    Perhaps he meant….
    integrous (comparative more integrous, superlative most integrous)

    1. (rare) Having or characterized by integrity.  [quotations ▼]

    Yes, I looked it up, in case you didn’t know! 😛


  350. 358 berigan2electricboogaloo October 2, 2010 at 12:06 pm

    V, did you call/write the CEO of DISH, and Fox?

    what absolute jokes! Fox number gives you an automated recording of their side of the story, and then it just rings, and rings and rings…

    After telling the CEO (via the email he gave on the channel the braves game would normally be on) how I was likely to dump them and how it really was a stupid time to have this fight with 3 games left in the season, you just know I got back a stupid form letter, telling me how they have added sports channels I couldn’t care less about….Gil, please drop me an email with the pertinent info from you, or whatever when we call Direct…wonder how one should coordinate this? Don’t want to be without “cable” for a week!


  351. 359 Voice of Raisins October 2, 2010 at 12:30 pm

    Two issues are at play here with the whole Fox vs. Dish Network spat.

    First, I’m not quite sure who I am supposed to be angry at. Fox decided arbitrarily to jack their rates to Dish Network. Do I think the timing is coincidental? Absolutely not. Fox knew exactly what they were doing. They also know that the normal response from we ticked off customers is to lash out at Dish Network. This plays right into their hands as it puts all of the pressure on Dish. Seriously… Dish is catching all the heat – and losing subscribers – and Fox is losing nothing.

    That really makes me mad because we are not only screwed out of our programming, we are being used as pawns in this flippin’ fight.

    So here’s what happens… Dish caves because they can’t afford to lose all their customers. Then, because of the increased cost of providing programming, our subscriber rates will increase. Fox sits back and rakes in additional income.

    No, I think it’s Fox that I despise in this, and I refuse to become their pawn. I may not be able to gain anything, and eventually will probably still lose by either having to pay an increased monthly fee, or by taking it out altogether (that’s what Mrs Raisins wants to do – take it all out… permanently. That’s the second issue. If I fire Dish Network, it won’t be replaced.)

    But I will still hold on to a modicum of integrity. I guess…


  352. 360 Gil in Mechanicsville October 2, 2010 at 1:58 pm

    Rasins.. What? and lose 160 channels of useless drivel you never watch anyway?

    If you think this is something, just wait until Comcast assumes control of NBC… Oh wait…

    Ber, I will send post haste…


  353. 361 Gil in Mechanicsville October 2, 2010 at 8:27 pm

    For all you folks who could not watch that debacle, count your blessings. I finally got up and went outside to clean out my shed. A man can only take so much abuse…


  354. 362 berigan2electricboogaloo October 2, 2010 at 9:52 pm

    V, I see what you are saying…I am more P.O’ed at Fox, but the way DISH has handled it…very frustrating.

    My email to them last night(after the CEO said to email him)
    what I said first…

    Was there a thought process behind this??? You and Fox couldn’t work this out a few weeks ago???
    Well, guess it’s time to switch to Direct tv….if you care….somehow I don’t think you do….I will call Fox as well…which will do nothing either.

    Their canned response.

    Dear Valued DISH Network Customer,

    Thank you for your recent communication regarding your channel.
    We regret that FOX Networks, the owner of some Regional Sports Networks, FX and National Geographic Channel, removed their channels from the DISH Network line-up. FOX has demanded a rate increase of more than 50%. An increase this large would force DISH Network to pass these costs on to our customers, which we are unwilling to do during these tough economic times.

    We know these channels are important to you which is why during the FOX Sports lock-out, we’re pleased to bring you 20 additional sports channels at no cost. We assure you that we are doing everything possible to restore these channels. In the meantime, you will not miss a single MLB playoff game or NFL Game. The Solutions Tab has a full list of alternative sports options available to you while we continue to negotiate with FOX.

    DISH Network will continue to work tirelessly for a fair agreement in order to bring these channels back at the earliest possible time. Feel free to share your thoughts and concerns by e-mailing us at president@dishnetwork.com. We assure you that we will read every e-mail we receive.

    Thank you for your patience during this process and for being a valued DISH Network customer

    Why would I stay with them when they won’t even work over a weekend to respond to what I said? Yeah, I know thousands of customers, blah, blah, blah…well, this is going to cost them one high priced customer. Perhaps they should have missed a few rounds of golf and actually responded with at least a copy and paste directed at regions(Sorry about missing out on braves games, please stay with us and next month’s bill is half off) Or hey, have some interns, someone at least say something more than dear valued customer.

    I’d gladly fire Fox if I could, but there is one entity I can fire, that won’t make any offers to me til they find out they are being dumped….


  355. 363 berigan2electricboogaloo October 2, 2010 at 10:02 pm

    And V, how much is your DISH bill? Ours is outrageous! To be frank, my finances suck right now, and Dad now pays the bill. But, I do know it’s slowly gone up and up, to where it’s just about $90 a month WITHOUT any HBO, Showtime, or Cinemax! We have a DVR(Which was free when we signed up-but they charge a monthly fee) and it’s hooked up to 4 tv’s. Have more than the basic plan because we love Turner classic Movies, Military channel, etc.

    Well, I was talking months ago about going with Direct TV, because at least for a year, the bill would be about 50% less, but Dad wasn’t too keen on switching, learning new channels…but now we are going to do it.

    So…V, tell the wife how much money you will save, get a $100 off the bill, and get the MLB channel,(Which DISH doesn’t carry) so you can keep up with baseball during the offseason!!!! 😉


  356. 364 berigan2electricboogaloo October 2, 2010 at 10:15 pm

    now baseball…sigh…what can one say??? Wildcat, you said something about this team being a Greek tragedy. Then they turned things around against the Marlins. Just to build up to a bigger, sadder event??? 😡
    Hopefully no one will have to die to make it complete…2 up, 3 to go…didn’t like that we had to go through the phils…did we really need more proof that we are not nearly as good as they are??? That the team that spends more tends to win more games???
    Now we get Hamels and Oswalt tomorrow. Like those odds??? I mean, they are beating us with a fair number of back up players. I would like our odds better with their back up outfielders than our starting outfield. How can JHey go 5 for 36 or 37 against the Philthies this year???
    How can we have a left fielder hitting .190, and a CF hitting .203 and expect to win??? Why won’t Hinske start? Yeah, great guy to have come off the bench if you don’t have guys hitting around or under the Mendoza line.

    Why was Hanson taken out after 5 innings??? Saving him for the playoffs??? Think the overwork has caught up with Venters???


  357. 365 berigan2electricboogaloo October 2, 2010 at 10:19 pm

    Ok final post for now…this is slightly old, but shows the scenarios that are in play for the final playoff spots….

    National League: After opening this showdown series with a victory Friday at AT&T Park, the Padres are two games behind the Giants in the NL West and have an 11-5 advantage in the season series. They play two more times, and one Giants victory would mean a division clincher. If the Padres sweep, and if Atlanta wins the Wild Card outright, there would be a one-game tiebreaker Monday at Petco Park.

    The Braves’ lead over the Padres in the Wild Card race is down to a game with two to go, so Atlanta still can clinch if it beats Philadelphia on Saturday, coupled with a Padres loss. [Probably still for one win and one loss for either team now.]

    How the Wild Card could come from the West: If the Padres sweep the Giants and the Phillies sweep the Braves, then Atlanta’s final record would be 90-72 — a game behind San Diego and San Francisco. Atlanta would be eliminated on Bobby Cox’s last day as a manager. That means no tiebreaker game would be needed, and by virtue of its head-to-head tiebreaker edge, the Padres would be division champs and the Giants the Wild Card.

    If Atlanta is the Wild Card and Cincinnati ends up with the same record as San Francisco or San Diego: The Braves would open Oct. 7 at either AT&T Park or PETCO Park. The best Cincinnati could do is finish with an identical record as the Giants and/or Padres, and both of those West teams won the season series from the Reds. So on Friday, the Reds’ loss locked them in as a road team in the first round.

    If either the Giants or Padres win the West and the other team finishes tied with the Braves for the Wild Card: Those two clubs (not the West champ) would play a one-game tiebreaker on Monday, hosted by Atlanta no matter whether it is against San Francisco or San Diego. The Braves won the season series from each.

    What if the Giants, Padres and Braves all finish tied? First it would be Giants at Padres on Monday, with the winner being declared the division champion. Then a day later, the losing team would play in Atlanta to decide the Wild Card. Head-to-head is the first tiebreaker criteria, replacing coin flips, in this scenario to determine tiebreaker site.


  358. 366 eprisewildcat October 3, 2010 at 7:59 am

    You would think for this Greek tragedy to be complete we would have to be in a playoff game on Monday. That game will probably go extra innings and we will lose because of a Bill Buckner type mistake. I’m pretty sure everyone here on Braves and Stuff will agree that Greek tragedies pretty much suck!

    GO BRAVES!!!


  359. 367 berigan2electricboogaloo October 3, 2010 at 12:26 pm

    Perhaps you are right Wildcat…though being up 2, with 3 to play, while it being your longtime skippers last game, and losing is right up there.
    I sure wish we had one guy that loved the spotlight, the pressure… a Reggie, Manny type, just for today….everyone seems scared, tight, whathaveyou…

    I found on a VHS tape about 8 minutes of baseball footage from 1989, on the old CNN sports program. John Tudor, Willie Randolph, Alejandro Pena were still playing…all for the Dodgers.

    I’d put it up on youtube, but they’d take it down in about a day….


  360. 368 berigan2electricboogaloo October 3, 2010 at 12:34 pm

    And Brooks moves to 2nd for todays game. I guess Bobby’s idea of a big shake up…

    Gil, I for some unknown reason missed Friday’s game, but I saw a brief clip on baseball tonight, and it sure looked like it wasn’t Brooks problem but Infante’s for not being near 2nd, was that just a fluke of the replay???


  361. 369 chrisklob October 3, 2010 at 2:32 pm

    ber, with respect to friday’s game and the error that was charged to conrad, the announcers were saying that there should have been better communication between he and infante. in that situation, with two outs and the chance to make a play at first or second, they should have decided before the play where conrad would have gone with the ball.

    in other news, i can NOT believe the situation this team has gotten themselves into. i missed (thankfully) last night’s game and just tuned in to today’s game to find the good guys up by one. but honestly, the way this team has played this year (white hot or ice cold) i don’t know that i have the faith that they can make the lead stand up.

    i will be sooooo disappointed if they don’t make the playoffs………….


  362. 370 eprisewildcat October 3, 2010 at 2:56 pm

    5-2 Braves bottom of the 5th. I ain’t saying nuthin right now!

    GO BRAVES!!!


  363. 371 Gil in Mechanicsville October 3, 2010 at 3:07 pm

    Whew, can we hold a 7-2 lead?


  364. 372 Gil in Mechanicsville October 3, 2010 at 3:09 pm

    Brooksie is a much better 2nd baseman than a third sacker. Good move by Bobby..


  365. 373 eprisewildcat October 3, 2010 at 4:22 pm

    Stolen from the internet so I believe it to be true.

    “Tragedy results in a catharsis (emotional cleansing) or healing for Braves fans through their experience of these emotions in response to the suffering of the ballplayers in the drama.”

    GO BRAVES!!!


  366. 374 chrisklob October 3, 2010 at 4:32 pm

    Kardiac Kids?

    Whewwwwwwwwwwwww! That was WAY too close for comfort!


  367. 375 Carolina Lady October 3, 2010 at 4:37 pm

    “Braves win! Braves win! Braves win!” – Skip Carey


  368. 376 eprisewildcat October 3, 2010 at 4:40 pm

    WOW!!! simply WOW!!! That was emotionally draining. Amazing the grit that Wagner showed in the 9th.

    GO BRAVES!!! and GO GIANTS!!! (that was hard to type)


  369. 377 Carolina Lady October 3, 2010 at 5:01 pm

    Great MLB tribute to Bobby:


  370. 378 flbravesgirl October 3, 2010 at 5:03 pm

    Wow. My stomach’s in a knot, my head hurts, my palms are still clammy & I couldn’t be happier.

    Giants just went up 2-0.


  371. 379 flbravesgirl October 3, 2010 at 5:04 pm

    Loved Chipper’s narration on the lead-in to the game.


  372. 380 berigan2electricboogaloo October 3, 2010 at 6:05 pm

    Must have been a great game to watch! 🙄
    I slept poorly last night, and I would have forced myself to stay up if the game was, you know, available on TV.
    Sleepy and listening on the radio….guess I am pretty spoiled these days! 😉

    So very glad they beat the Philthies! 🙂 Just too much to lose 6 straight to them, and to be booted from the playoffs to boot!


  373. 381 berigan2electricboogaloo October 3, 2010 at 6:21 pm

    Chris, thanks for the 2:32 info….


  374. 382 Gil in Mechanicsville October 3, 2010 at 6:41 pm

    Yes, I told Josie I was exhausted following the game and I did not play a single inning. I can just imagine how the Braves players must feel.

    Currently watching the Giants/Padres game hoping the San Frans can hold on to a slim lead.

    5 outs to go


  375. 383 berigan2electricboogaloo October 3, 2010 at 7:13 pm

    We is going to have us some playoff baseball in the ATL!!!!
    🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂

    I knew it all along, you guys were worried for naught! :mrgreen:


  376. 384 Voice of Raisins October 3, 2010 at 8:22 pm

    Whew!! 😯


  377. 385 berigan2electricboogaloo October 3, 2010 at 9:07 pm

    you can say that again!!!!


  378. 386 eprisewildcat October 4, 2010 at 12:06 am

    Not likely to forget the events of this day. One thing about the Braves is they are rarely boring. The series with the Giants shapes up to be very interesting. Great that we have until Thursday to get this thing started. Start D.Lowe followed by Hudson and then T.Hanson back in Atlanta. What a season!

    GO BRAVES!!!


  379. 387 berigan2electricboogaloo October 4, 2010 at 12:19 am

    Wildcat, I think the time to rest will be HUGE!
    I think baseball tonight had Lowe, Hanson, then Hudson. I was wondering why, then I thought that Bobby’s thinking is either we could be down 0-2 and really need Hudson to win a game, or to get the 3 game sweep.
    Also probably a good idea not to give a team back to back sinker/slider pitchers.
    See, I can say something nice about Bobby! 🙂


  380. 388 Gil in Mechanicsville October 4, 2010 at 8:41 am

    A few days off will be good for everyone. While I would love to see the Braves win the World Series, I have to say that given the talent they currently have on the field, I’m pretty amazed they have made it this far.

    I think the Braves pitching matches up with everybody but it is the lack of offense that has me worried. That and a porous defense that has more hole than a sieve.

    So, do the Braves really need 13 pitchers on their roster? The benches won’t be quite so deep now. Does JC Boscan get a spot?


  381. 389 Voice of Raisins October 4, 2010 at 8:48 am

    given the talent they currently have on the field, I’m pretty amazed they have made it this far

    You got that right… these boys are certainly light in the lumber, yet heavy on heart and desire. It is so very obvious just how much they love Bobby.

    Speaking of that, here’s a nice little tribute:



  382. 390 Gil in Mechanicsville October 4, 2010 at 10:08 am

    At least I will have a couple of days to collect myself and my emotions in preparation of the initial playoff games. Maybe even a little like old times when we used to go into the last week of the season staying up late for those critical games on the left coast.

    I’m pretty sure the Braves will be considered the longest of long-shots to advance but hey, it is a short series and as we all know, anything can happen.

    It will be pretty interesting to see who is on the 25 man roster for the Braves going into this 5 game set. Goal number one should be to get at least a split in San Fran.


  383. 391 berigan2electricboogaloo October 4, 2010 at 11:09 am

    Gil, I sure hope they go with more bats than Bullpen arms for a 5 game series.(I assume the Giants have the same option of spreading out the series like the Phils did?) Can’t see 3 catchers as Bobby barely used David Ross in Sept.

    San Fran whole pitching staff had something crazy like a 1.82 ERA for the month of Sept.

    That said, I think Cain can be hit, he throws a lot of straight stuff…

    Probably a lot of 1-0 games.


  384. 392 Voice of Raisins October 4, 2010 at 11:13 am

    Well, it’s a pretty good matchup, if you ask me. Good pitching, bad offense. Kinda describes both clubs. The difference is, the Braves have the superior bullpen. That could be the tipping point.

    I’m relatively optimistic that with throwing the revived DLowe, the electric Big Red, and the tenacious Huddy at the G-men, we at least have a great shot at each game.

    Now, past the NLDS, eh… well, let’s just not get ahead of ourselves just yet.

    Oh, and let’s all be Reds fans for a week or so! 😀


  385. 393 Voice of Raisins October 4, 2010 at 12:42 pm

    Ken Macha out as Brewers manager.

    And the spin cycle begins… 🙄


  386. 394 Voice of Raisins October 4, 2010 at 12:43 pm

    Manuel and Minaya out in NY. [yawn]


  387. 395 Voice of Raisins October 4, 2010 at 12:45 pm

    Russell out in Pittsburgh.


  388. 396 Gil in Mechanicsville October 4, 2010 at 2:01 pm

    And so the revolving door begins…

    Too bad you can’t fire an owner…

    Of course, sometimes a new manager can make a huge difference. Look at the turn around in Baltimore since Buck Showaters took the helm.

    Look out for the Cubbies next season too.

    Pretty easy to root for the Reds. Dusty Baker ruin that pitching staff yet?

    I’m a little worried about O’Flarerty. Complaining of dizziness and black spots before his eyes. Sounds like hypertension to me or hypoglycemia but I am sure they have checked that. Other likely culprit is the thyroid if they rule out an insulin problem.

    Hyperthyroid cases often mimic diabetes and hypoglycemia. Why it is so hard to spot.


  389. 397 Gil in Mechanicsville October 4, 2010 at 10:17 pm

    Random wish list… Can we get Carl Crawford? Please, please, please? Would solve so many problems on so many levels…


  390. 398 eprisewildcat October 5, 2010 at 8:59 am

    Hard to argue with any of the picks made in this article by Tom Verducci of Sports Illustrated. I only disagree with maybe one choice and that’s manager of the year. I think Bobby Cox leading this patchwork team to the playoffs is incredible. Yeah I know I’m a homer but Bud Black’s team didn’t quite make the playoffs. So… by the thinnest of margins Bobby Cox should get manager of the year.

    GO BRAVES!!!


  391. 400 Gil in Mechanicsville October 5, 2010 at 10:01 am

    Want to be an All-star, a multi millionaire ? HIT!!!! It makes not difference if you can’t field a lick, everything is poised around being able to hit. Want to win a Gold Glove? Better be able to hit too because otherwise you won’t get a sniff.

    Now, that’s off my chest…

    I really needed an off day yesterday, helps me recharge and get ready for all that baseball yet to begin. I will be living and dying with every pitch, every blown call, every wall scraper lofted to the outfield. All I have to say is “Just Win Baby”…

    Actually, for all those folks across the street poo pooing the Wild Card, ask the Padres how they feel about missing the dance. Sure, a division title is nice but win the next two series and you have a nice NL Pennant to add to the collection.

    I’m not ready to cede the trophy to anyone else quite yet. I have seen how the anointed ones fell flat so many times in the past. I think it is all going to come down to each team’s bench a bullpen in the end. It is there the Braves have a decided edge on the competition.


  392. 401 berigan2electricboogaloo October 5, 2010 at 6:54 pm

    Thanks for the link Wildcat. Still a bit hard to argue for a manager that had a team with a 38 Mil budget, and everyone and their brother saying they were a dead last place team…


  393. 402 berigan2electricboogaloo October 5, 2010 at 6:59 pm

    And Gil, I guess we won’t be getting a crisp clean $100 in the mail, but rather $10 off our bills for 10 months. Still not bad…
    Always feel a bit dirty doing these sorts of things….figuring out what they are trying to sell, and not let me know…got it all squared away.
    Now I will have MLB baseball channel, and save a few bucks(for the first year) as well! Thanks! 🙂


  394. 403 Gil in Mechanicsville October 5, 2010 at 8:19 pm

    I hope you enjoy it. Sometimes the channels seem a bit slow to change but to tell the truth, there are a bunch of things the remote does that I still haven’t mastered.

    Make sure they run the duel lines to you receivers, that way you can watch one program and record another or watch two programs at once. Pretty cool for days you wan to watch two sporting events.

    The also have an NFL channel if you are into football. The MLB network is the bomb though. Much superior to ESPN…

    Hey, Mitch Williams is a homer for the Philles but at least he has a grain of sense about him, unlike another pro Phillie guy, John Krunk…

    Also make sure you get the equipment necessary for the On Demand.


  395. 404 Voice of Raisins October 6, 2010 at 8:37 am

    Congrats Huddy!!! 😀

    Braves’ Tim Hudson named NL comeback player of year



  396. 405 berigan2electricboogaloo October 6, 2010 at 10:32 am

    Thanks Gil…I just hope they hire better subcontractors than DISH did 7-8 years ago…man, found out the dish wasn’t tightened down enough, and that was the reason we had the signal go out when it was windy, not just because we had a dish! Only put up with that for about 3 years for no reason! 😡

    V, I saw that, isn’t that great? And Lirano won it in the AL. 2 TJ guys…funny, Tim was right back to being as good, if not better than he was before…Lirano took about 2 years. Wonder if he didn’t work as hard as he needed to after the surgery?


  397. 406 berigan2electricboogaloo October 6, 2010 at 5:39 pm

    Ol’ Frenchy got a big hit for the Rangers…good for him!


  398. 407 eprisewildcat October 6, 2010 at 10:20 pm

    Roy Halladay just go and have day why don’t you? Man! Cincinnati has a good hitting team. Somehow it just doesn’t seem to be fair. Oh well… it will just be that much sweeter when we whomp them in the NLCS.

    What y’all think of the TBS Pitch Trak? Watching the Yankees vs. Twins and this is the first time I’ve seen it displayed like this. It’s hard not to stare at Pitch Trak and not watch the game. Takse some getting used to but I kind of like it.

    GO BRAVES!!!


  399. 408 flbravesgirl October 7, 2010 at 1:09 am



  400. 409 Gil in Mechanicsville October 7, 2010 at 4:52 am

    Good morning all. HAPPY BIRTHDAY CL.. 🙂 Hope you have glorious one. So, how old does this one make you? 35, 36? 🙂

    I went 0-3 yesterday on teams rooted for vs wins. I sure hope this trend does not continue.


  401. 410 berigan2electricboogaloo October 7, 2010 at 7:11 am

    CL, HAPPY BIRTHDAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    🙂 :p 😉 :mrgreen: 😀 😮 8)


  402. 411 berigan2electricboogaloo October 7, 2010 at 7:13 am

    I mean,
    CL, HAPPY BIRTHDAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    🙂 😛 😉 :mrgreen: :D, 😮 8)


  403. 412 eprisewildcat October 7, 2010 at 7:38 am

    Carolina Lady may you have the most blessed and greatest birthday ever! HAPPY BIRTHDAY!!!

    GO BRAVES!!!


  404. 413 Voice of Raisins October 7, 2010 at 8:32 am

    Happy Birthday dear Lady of Carolina!!!


  405. 414 Voice of Raisins October 7, 2010 at 11:19 am

    Here is an amazing report from Mr. O’B:

    A poll in this week’s issue of Sports Illustrated asked players which team other than their own would they most like to play for. There were 284 responses, and the Braves led with 14 percent of the votes, followed by a quartet of big-market teams: New York Yankees (11%), Boston Red Sox (10%), Los Angeles Angels (8%) and Chicago Cubs (7%).

    That just blows my mind, folks. Seriously. Gee, now if we could only afford to pay a few of them…


  406. 415 berigan2electricboogaloo October 7, 2010 at 12:56 pm

    Amazing what Roy Halladay did yesterday…wish I could have seen it, but we had non baseball lovin’ company over and watched movies…I saw he had a no no thru 5, but figured no way he would no hit the reds….

    Gil, I was very happy to see the Twins up on the Yankees..sigh…if they win the W.S. with basically one starter….


  407. 416 Gil in Mechanicsville October 7, 2010 at 1:12 pm

    Ber, I don’t know which package you signed up for but with the duel lines, you can record the game while watching the movies… Problem solved. 🙂


  408. 417 Voice of Raisins October 7, 2010 at 2:05 pm

    Courtesy of the ajc:

    Braves NLDS roster:

    Pitchers (11): Brandon Beachy (RH), Mike Dunn (LH), Kyle Farnsworth (RH), Tommy Hanson (RH), Tim Hudson (RH), Craig Kimbrel (RH), Derek Lowe (RH), Cristhian Martinez (RH), Peter Moylan (RH), Jonny Venters (LH) and Billy Wagner (LH).

    Catchers (2): Brian McCann and David Ross.

    Infielders (7): Brooks Conrad, Troy Glaus, Alex Gonzalez, Diory Hernandez, Eric Hinske, Omar Infante and Derrek Lee.

    Outfielders (5): Rick Ankiel, Melky Cabrera, Matt Diaz, Jason Heyward and Nate McLouth


  409. 418 Voice of Raisins October 7, 2010 at 2:35 pm

    I cringe at the name Melky Cabrera. When I hear it, I envision bad swings, poor routes to balls hit to the OF, no range, bad throws, general badness on the diamond.

    Please Bobby, don’t start him. I know you want to, but don’t start him. I realize that out of 5 OF’s, you have only 1 legit starter. But please, not Melky. We have already accepted that this is going to be a low scoring series, so let’s go speed and defense, OK? Ankiel and Nate. Alright, so Nate isn’t much on the speed and defense, either, but Melky? Please, no. Please?


  410. 419 berigan2electricboogaloo October 7, 2010 at 5:34 pm

    V, I see Melky hit .391 last year in the ALCS….pssst, do what you can to keep that info from Bobby! 😉


  411. 420 berigan2electricboogaloo October 7, 2010 at 5:44 pm

    Wasn’t any good in the series before and in the W.S. but still, that will jump off the page to Bobby…

    here’s a semi interesting fact I had to dig up on yahoo since I couldn’t find the stat on espn or elsewhere.
    Guess how many games Nate has played in left this year? 8.

    Well, he must have a bit of experience there over his career, right??? Sure…a tiny bit….. 39 games!!!! 😯

    Oh, and I see he only has 69 AB’s in left, so he must have switched to CF or left games early.

    Would we switch JHey to left and expect him to be as good there?
    May even have to post this over at the ajc…


  412. 421 berigan2electricboogaloo October 7, 2010 at 5:51 pm

    Well, here’s the lineup….hmmm. at least no Melky, but really Diaz against Lincecum? Perhaps he has a good history against him????

    1. Infante 3B,
    2. Heyward RF,
    3. Lee 1B,
    4. McCann C,
    5. Gonzalez SS,
    6. Diaz LF,
    7. Conrad 2B,
    8. Ankiel CF,
    9. Lowe RHP


  413. 422 berigan2electricboogaloo October 7, 2010 at 6:35 pm

    Giants lineup….
    CF Torres
    2B F. Sanchez
    1B Huff
    C Posey
    LF Burrell
    SS Uribe
    3B Sandoval
    RF Ross
    P Lincecum

    Hate to say it, but it looks much better than ours…


  414. 423 Carolina Lady October 7, 2010 at 8:08 pm

    Hey, everybody! MANY thanks for all the birthday greetings! It’s been a really good day. Kelly treated me out to O’Charley’s for dinner and I am stuffed to the gills!

    Gil, I’ll have you know I am only ONE day older! I don’t believe in that “year” stuff! And tomorrow I’ll only be one more day older. See? Now doesn’t just work a whole lot better? 😆

    Y’all have made me happy! Many thanks again!


  415. 424 eprisewildcat October 7, 2010 at 8:50 pm

    Everyone needs a little Apache to get fired up for the Braves game in less than an hour. Enjoy!


  416. 425 flbravesgirl October 8, 2010 at 12:13 am

    That is a crying shame to lose because of a blown call. I feel bad for Lowe, he deserved better.

    So far none of the teams I want to win have won a game. 😦


  417. 426 eprisewildcat October 8, 2010 at 7:27 am

    fbg… I know exactly what you mean. What’s really frustrating is the quality of umpiring we’re seeing. Wendelstedt in the Yankees series has his own strikezone. What’s up with that? On the play at second with B.Posey the umpire was not in a good position to make the call. Very frustrating and I think it’s going to drive baseball to some form of instant replay.

    Oh well… whatya say to scoring some stinking runs tonight. I believe you have to score to win the game. It says that somewhere. Oye!

    GO BRAVES!!!


  418. 427 Voice of Raisins October 8, 2010 at 8:13 am

    Not sure how to comment on the game. Lincecum sure did pitch a beauty, I guess. Or did we just make a good game look great with anemic hitting? I can’t decide. But the missed call at 2nd… i was ticked when it happened, was more ticked when he scored, and can’t believe that was the only run of the game. It leaves a sour taste, but 1 run should never win a game.

    Then again, that’s what I want from my team, so…

    Still, Lincecum can’t toe the rubber every night, and I like Big Red to tie it up coming back home. Then we get to throw Huddy. I still like our chances.


  419. 428 Gil in Mechanicsville October 8, 2010 at 8:30 am

    Well. I’m not ready to jump off any bridges quite yet either. Omar should have made that play on Cody Ross. Still, one stinking run…. Got to do better tonight.


  420. 429 Voice of Raisins October 8, 2010 at 9:05 am

    Yes, Gil, Omar should have made the play. But, when I think about the fact that we are down to playing “the best option” at 3B, I can’t really complain. No real 3B on the roster. That’s the real shame.

    And Cody Ross? Shouldn’t he be on OUR playoff roster instead of Melky? I’ll answer that:



  421. 430 berigan2electricboogaloo October 8, 2010 at 10:59 am

    FBG, I wouldn’t mind seeing the Rangers advance, but I sure didn’t want to see the Rays swept out of the playoffs! Really wanted to see the Twins beat the Yankees, but that ain’t likely to happen, is it???
    Hopefully the Reds will at least tax the Phils a little….

    Wildcat, I do believe you are right, scoring is an important aspect to the game….the braves seem to have forgotten that point. I wonder if TP went over anything with the Braves hitters other than get a good pitch to hit. 🙄

    You guys do know Lincecum used to hit 97, and now he’s only hitting what, 92? He’s a good pitcher no doubt, great when he can hide a ball and hit 97, but just don’t see how he’s THIS good.


  422. 431 Voice of Raisins October 8, 2010 at 11:27 am

    Oh, he’s good, Ber. Very good. Probably better than when he was dealing at 97. He is a for real pitcher. Mixes up his pitches, and has amazing late movement. That’s the key… the movement. He has more movement at 92 than he did at 97.

    And remember, he’s the 2 time defending Cy Young award winner, and strikeout leader. Not a bad résumé…


  423. 432 berigan2electricboogaloo October 8, 2010 at 7:00 pm

    1. Infante 3B
    2. Heyward RF
    3. Lee 1B
    4. McCann C
    5. Cabrera LF
    6. Conrad 2B
    7. Gonzalez SS
    8. Ankiel CF
    9. Hanson RH

    I know the theory…you want a power guy off the bench. Hinske can run into one. But, Melky is going to likely come up with runners on several times tonight. Melky is hitting .266 from the left side, but only 3 homers. Hinske is hitting only .246 against righties, but has 9 homers …still not exactly a huge threat, is he? of course that’s in 260 AB’s.
    Perhaps Melky has some success against Cain?


  424. 433 berigan2electricboogaloo October 8, 2010 at 7:40 pm

    Reds over Phils 4-0 after 5 innings! 🙂
    The Reds have this think called the ability to hit the long ball…interesting…I would like to see that someday on a braves team…


  425. 434 berigan2electricboogaloo October 8, 2010 at 7:41 pm

    This think? Sigh….


  426. 435 Voice of Raisins October 8, 2010 at 7:53 pm

    B, I love you man, but I gotta disagree. If Bobby started Hinske at 3B, and I was Bruce Bochy, I’d bunt down the 3B line every AB. And if he started in that spacious OF… well, the defense has already been a factor. It’s been a factor for several weeks. I know we need to score runs, but what good does it do to score 1 or 2 more when you’ve given up the same 1 or 2 with bad fielding?

    In fact, it was bad fielding that yielded last night’s only plate-crosser. Bad call at 2B aside, Posey wouldn’t have scored if Infante makes the play. It was a very makeable play.

    Nope, if you can’t catch water in a sock, you don’t replace it with fishnet hose. You just don’t.


  427. 436 berigan2electricboogaloo October 8, 2010 at 9:40 pm

    V, guess we will agree to disagree then…I would put Infante back at 2nd(I read earlier today that he didn’t feel that comfortable at 3rd, hasn’t played much there this year) and Glaus, who has played a million games there.
    Hinske is a thick guy, but he’s no bigger or slower than Melky.

    If we lose again 1-0, or 2-1, the team can pat themselves on the back for playing decent defense, and losing.
    Right now, we have to win 3 of 4 games…I would just like to see one. Hopefully Cain will leave some pitches down the middle…

    Reds are now losing 7-4. Sigh….


  428. 437 eprisewildcat October 8, 2010 at 11:26 pm

    Well at least we won’t be skunked in San Fran. I’ve also seen enough of the Melk-dud to last me forever. Line him up with A.Gone and we have a virtual black hole in the order. Really, really frustrated with our hitting. It’s a miracle we made the playoffs!

    OK… I’m over it for a little while. Geeeeeezzz!!!

    GO BRAVES!!!


  429. 438 eprisewildcat October 8, 2010 at 11:36 pm

    Just as I hit enter on the post above P.Burrell hits 3rd base with a line-drive and the ball goes into short left field. Of course the Melk-dud lollygags over to the ball and helps Burrell record a double. Arrrrrggghhh!!!

    GO BRAVES!!!


  430. 439 berigan2electricboogaloo October 8, 2010 at 11:45 pm

    Oh boy a run, .5 a game average….


  431. 440 Voice of Raisins October 9, 2010 at 12:10 am


    We tied it up!


  432. 441 eprisewildcat October 9, 2010 at 12:17 am

    I can’t believe what I just saw! Oh… I think that line was already used. Too bad M.Diaz couldn’t have knocked in the go-ahead run. Runs are hard to come by.

    GO BRAVES!!!


  433. 442 berigan2electricboogaloo October 9, 2010 at 12:25 am

    Color me very,very surprised! And Happy! 🙂
    Wildcat, you bashed Gonzo, and he came thru, Melky worked the count, can you bash say Conrad and Ankle next? 😉


  434. 443 Voice of Raisins October 9, 2010 at 12:54 am

    Glaus at 3B, Bochy bunts, Glaus falls all over himself.

    Big surprise. 🙄


  435. 444 berigan2electricboogaloo October 9, 2010 at 12:54 am

    Glaus at 3rd, and Wagner got in the way…and now he’s hurt, oh no!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


  436. 445 Voice of Raisins October 9, 2010 at 12:55 am

    And then we lose our closer… 😯

    What next?


  437. 446 berigan2electricboogaloo October 9, 2010 at 12:56 am

    NEVER SAY, WHAT NEXT, NEVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


  438. 447 berigan2electricboogaloo October 9, 2010 at 12:57 am

    Farnsworth is what’s next…Yikes! 😯


  439. 448 Voice of Raisins October 9, 2010 at 1:04 am

    Boy do I ever wish Saito was available…


  440. 449 berigan2electricboogaloo October 9, 2010 at 1:06 am

    see, piece of cake! Glaus can play 3rd! 😛


  441. 450 Voice of Raisins October 9, 2010 at 1:06 am

    I think I just swallowed my gum… and I’m not chewing any!


  442. 451 berigan2electricboogaloo October 9, 2010 at 1:08 am

    V, now that’s funny! 😆


  443. 452 berigan2electricboogaloo October 9, 2010 at 1:11 am

    I knew it, I knew it all all along!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


  444. 453 Voice of Raisins October 9, 2010 at 1:12 am

    Dang! 😯

    Ankle CRUSHED that one!


  445. 454 Voice of Raisins October 9, 2010 at 1:17 am

    Now… can we get 3 outs? Will Farnsy be back on the mound? Oh… we need our closer.

    So, who becomes the closer Sunday if Billy is done? My vote goes to Kimbrel.


  446. 455 eprisewildcat October 9, 2010 at 1:19 am

    Boys in the cove probably never thought they would see a ball in this series. WOW!!! Ankle got all of that one. Can you believe we have to rely on Farnsworth?

    GO BRAVES!!!


  447. 456 berigan2electricboogaloo October 9, 2010 at 1:20 am

    Gotta be V…Kimbrel…


  448. 457 berigan2electricboogaloo October 9, 2010 at 1:22 am

    Man, I thought Travis hit a 2 run homer for a sec…. 😯


  449. 458 Voice of Raisins October 9, 2010 at 1:24 am

    Yes! 😀


  450. 459 Voice of Raisins October 9, 2010 at 1:26 am

    Like I said… that mid-season trade for Ankiel and Farnsworth was brilliant!



  451. 460 berigan2electricboogaloo October 9, 2010 at 1:26 am

    Farnsworth is scary, but he got the job done!!! As someone was saying on the AJC, how about the Royals trade paying off!!!!

    BRAVES WIN, THE BRAVES WIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


  452. 461 Gil in Mechanicsville October 9, 2010 at 1:51 am

    What’s really funny is to read the game long post and then know the results… Okay, mission accomplished, getting a split in San Fran. No one really thought we would sweep the Giants in their home park did they? After all, the Braves are the worse 91 win team in history, right? 🙂

    Anyway, glad they pulled that one out. I expect Wags is done until next week if we can make it that far, and I expect they will.

    Okay, I have to admit I was pretty down after the 3 run dinger in the first and I never would have thought Ankiel would be the guy to hit the winning run. Shows you how much I know…

    Still, great to be on the winning side.


  453. 462 Voice of Raisins October 9, 2010 at 9:15 am

    OK… so we lost our 3B for the season, our backup 3B for the season, 2 starters, and now our closer.

    I like us to sweep the next 2 at home! 😀


  454. 463 Gil in Mechanicsville October 9, 2010 at 9:52 am

    Yeah Raisins, kind of like Pickett’s charge up Cemetery Ridge…


  455. 464 Gil in Mechanicsville October 9, 2010 at 9:57 am

    I can’t help but remember what my old high school football coach use to preach to us that the best team isn’t the best 22 guys on the squad but the best 44. Depth is important, even more so with this bunch.

    Besides, when Diory Hernandez hits the game winning walk off homerun in game seven in Atlanta to win the World Series, it will complete a pretty remarkable story that they will be making TV movies about for years to come….


  456. 465 Gil in Mechanicsville October 9, 2010 at 10:00 am

    I’ll tell you what, I think it is very telling when Ankiel said after the game that he didn’t even want to run the bases but wanted to go directly to the dugout to be with his buds after hitting that dinger.


  457. 466 Salty October 9, 2010 at 10:21 am


    All four are nice to have…and a bench…especially since the Braves are running out of starters! Sheesh…what’s up with that?

    Howdy, everyone! Happy (belated) birthday, CL!


  458. 467 Voice of Raisins October 9, 2010 at 10:28 am

    Telling indeed, Gil. Did you notice what he did as he was running up the 1st base line? He was pointing at his teammates in the dugout.

    Win or lose, this is a team to be proud of. They are more than teammates, they are brothers. And they are fighters… competitors of high character. They fight beyond their real capabilities. They fight for their beloved skipper, they fight for their fallen brothers and they fight for themselves.

    And those that are fallen are still alongside. Did you see how high Jair jumped in the dugout when that ball sailed toward the bay? Chipper, Marteeen, Saito, Meds and now Wags. They are all their contributing whatever they can, even if it is only a high five.

    I like this team. Maybe as much as any I have seen since 1991.


  459. 468 berigan2electricboogaloo October 9, 2010 at 10:54 am

    A Salty sighting! Hey Salt man! Was hoping everything was aok…

    I was just wanting them to win one…trying to not get too greedy, but I guess thats natural…what a game of redemption for so many players! 🙂


  460. 470 Salty October 9, 2010 at 4:36 pm

    With ya, Ber! Win one…at a time! 😆 One down, 10 to go!


  461. 471 berigan2electricboogaloo October 10, 2010 at 4:47 pm

    Man, remember when Brooks Conrad could field??? Honestly, I was thinking awhile back he could be a starting 2nd or 3rd baseman for some team…of course having the runner go helped cause the problem…McCann isn’t very good at throwing to 2nd, but he can fire to 3rd!!! 🙂


  462. 472 berigan2electricboogaloo October 10, 2010 at 7:23 pm

    I STILL think Hinske should be astartin’ but I will accept a 2 run HOMER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


  463. 473 berigan2electricboogaloo October 10, 2010 at 7:31 pm

    Hello??? Everyone out golfing or something? 😕

    This comment on the AJC cracked me up…


    I say this as someone completely secure in his heterosexuality. But I am willing to have Eric Hinske’s baby. Even if biologically impossible, I’m willing to undergo whatever medical procedure is necessary.


  464. 474 Gil in Mechanicsville October 10, 2010 at 7:48 pm

    So close… So close.. 😦


  465. 475 Gil in Mechanicsville October 10, 2010 at 7:49 pm

    Brooksie better hit a game winning homerun or he may be wearing goat horns for a very long time….


  466. 476 Gil in Mechanicsville October 10, 2010 at 8:04 pm

    Did the strike zone suddenly get 6 inches wider for the Giants? Josie thinks the umps must have money on the games….


  467. 477 eprisewildcat October 10, 2010 at 8:15 pm

    Unbelievable! I cannot recall another loss in any sport that hurts more than this one. I feel sick for B.Conrad but I really wonder why we didn’t plug Diory in at SS and move Infante to 2nd for the ninth inning. No one could ever predict this would happen but seriously Brooks had no business on the field. For the sake of Bobby’s legacy I certainly hope we can recover from this nightmare and win the next two games. Unbelievable!

    GO BRAVES!!!


  468. 478 Carolina Lady October 10, 2010 at 8:32 pm

    And all we needed was one more out.



  469. 479 Voice of Raisins October 10, 2010 at 8:48 pm

    Just came in and read the game story. I’m glad I missed it…


  470. 480 berigan2electricboogaloo October 10, 2010 at 8:52 pm

    You know it never occurred to me to have Bobby put in Diory, but he should have…man, all those great moments Conrad had…we wouldn’t even be in the playoffs without him…now everyone will consider him a goat…it’s just not fair… 😦


  471. 481 eprisewildcat October 10, 2010 at 9:03 pm

    Sorry… meant to say Diory at 3rd and Infante to 2nd. Anyways… I need to find some sort of distraction to get my mind off baseball. I was actually thinking about going to Atlanta tomorrow but now I think I’ll enjoy my day off at the golf course. Could be Bobby’s last game but I don’t want to see it under these circumstances. I really like T.Hudson’s comment about Brooks, “We love him even more now.” I think Huddy has the correct perspective!

    GO BRAVES!!!


  472. 482 chrisklob October 10, 2010 at 11:41 pm

    CL said: And all we needed was one more out.

    I think they only needed one more strike………..

    And the Braves defense rears its ugly head yet again……


  473. 483 Gil in Mechanicsville October 11, 2010 at 4:58 am

    Yes, I was also in a pretty foul mood after yesterday’s game. From that incredible high after Henski’s two run jack to just utter disbelief.

    Okay, it’s just baseball. I get it, but you know the players have to be just sick too, after all, it is their livelihood.


    So, I will avoid TV today. Maybe watch some of the shows I have recorded. Skip all the game commentary and hope for a miracle tonight. Yes, Diory has to be a better option right now. We can’t be cringing every time a ball is hit to an infielder can we?


  474. 484 eprisewildcat October 11, 2010 at 7:22 am

    Gil… funny that you mention avoiding your normal routine of watching TV. That is exactly what I’ve been doing since last night. I don’t want to see a highlight of the game or even the crawler with the score. I’ve already gotten several text messages about the game and will see people at work tomorrow who care nothing about baseball and they’ll think its rather funny. This was not at the level of Bill Buckner’s error but the net result is nearly the same. Not to mention that Bill didn’t make three stinking errors! Maybe when we come back and win the next two games I will be able to laugh about it. I don’t know!

    GO BRAVES!!!


  475. 485 Voice of Raisins October 11, 2010 at 9:25 am

    I think Diory at 3B is probably a better option right now. B, you are absolutely right… we wouldn’t even be in this position without Conrad’s contributions this season, yet he’ll wear the goat horns for sure. It’s a shame, but just the nature of the modern “fan”.

    Now, I like DLowe tonight, even on short rest. He is a real pro and a gamer, He’s gritty and determined. Obviously we need to get him some runs, preferably early. But this is a “pull out all the stops” kind of game. Gotta win it.

    Then we’ll get to go back on the road to face Lincecum.

    Wow… we really needed that game last night…


  476. 486 berigan2electricboogaloo October 11, 2010 at 2:55 pm

    Is it asking too much for Conrad to come up with runners on and for him to hit a homer???

    7:35 game…may be the last game for Bobby and the braves…


  477. 487 Gil in Mechanicsville October 11, 2010 at 3:05 pm

    I threw myself into my work today. Pretty hard to do when you are retired but I digress….

    I built some shelves for my big shed and then took a load of stuff to the dump and then to the Goodwill. Still have another load to go but my pain medicine wore off so it is break time.

    I am not ashamed to admit it but my heart was pounding while Kimbrell was trying to get those last three outs. I know no one will do it (compare the two) but honest, the ump had a very tight strike zone for the Braves but it got very wide for the Giants.

    I will watch tonight because I am a fan and if they win, well, they have some huge cajoles because last night I had my heart ripped right out of me.

    Does go to show however how much of an over achieving team the Braves have been the last half of the season. Shows Frank still has some work to do in the off season. My first priority would be to sign Carl Crawford to a long term contract and go from there.


  478. 488 berigan2electricboogaloo October 11, 2010 at 4:17 pm

    Gil, you as a retired person, have done much more than I have today!

    Tried to fix a bike of our neighbor’s grandkid(With a lot of help from Pa, I’m not as good with bicycles as I am with old cars) but the 9 year old that “fixed” it for her before we got to it, messed it up beyond our ability. Brakes didn’t work, bearing was about to fall out for the chain…tires were flat(don’t think he caused that problem at least) oh yeah, and the handlebars were twisted around the wrong way and were loose. Didn’t have an Allen key big enough for it… Sigh…beyond our pay grade.

    Of course she is living with her Grandma because of “issues” with her parents, well…with her Ma, never heard about the Father. Kind a problem a Father should be dealing with, not neighbors, but we were glad to try at least…


  479. 489 berigan2electricboogaloo October 11, 2010 at 4:19 pm

    The lineup tonight…now Bobby starts to change things up!

    1. Infante 2B,
    2. Diaz LF,
    3. Lee 1B,
    4. McCann C,
    5. Gonzalez SS,
    6. Heyward RF,
    7. Glaus 3B,
    8. Ankiel CF,
    9. Lowe P


  480. 490 berigan2electricboogaloo October 11, 2010 at 4:28 pm

    Gil, I’d LOVE to see Crawford in a Braves uni next year!!!
    But, I just don’t see them opening the vaults for that. He will get 20+ mil a year. Angels have already said they are going to be spend what it takes to get back to the playoffs.
    The Tigers have 70 Mil coming off their budget this offseason.
    Do we have anything coming off???
    Tigers and Angels have individuals who have majority stakes in their teams. We have Liberty Media.
    Too early to get really into this, but we may have the same problem we have had for several years. Not enough money to sign a top outfielder, and no one wanting to trade their 25-30 HR left fielder. Does anyone even have one of those?
    Do I dare mention Jason Werth??? Too early, too early! 😛


  481. 491 Gil in Mechanicsville October 11, 2010 at 4:43 pm

    I fixed a bunch of bikes for my grand kids and a couple for my son in laws. Now when I go over to their house, I see them lying in the yard. Josie says I’m not supposed to say anything so I keep my mouth shut and think about it when they ask me to try to salvage them after they have been out in the weather.

    When I was a kid, I had two paper routes, one morning and one evening. I had to repair my bike everyday to keep it going. Good training I suppose. I finally saved enough to buy a Columbia News Boy Special. It was like a Mack Truck. No more break downs.

    Lesson learned, you have to invest if you want to succeed. Maybe I should send that pearl along to the Braves.

    Anyway, flea markets are a great source for used bikes now. Always someone willing to sell for about $20.


  482. 492 Voice of Raisins October 11, 2010 at 4:47 pm

    No way Liberty comes off the hip for a high-$$$ FA outfielder. Simpy won’t happen. And to be honest with you, high-$$$ are never really worth the investment. The best acquisitions are made through trade, and are affordable and controllable for a defined period of time. Every business wants cost certainty, and MLB is a business. That’s why it’s so tough to see JJ injured down the stretch. He’s your best trading chip to get an impact bat in return.

    Gotta give something to get something, knowhatImean?


  483. 493 berigan2electricboogaloo October 11, 2010 at 4:49 pm

    Gil, she said she had a few broken bikes….one bike a friends Father put air in the tires, and blew both of them out! 😯 Even before she told me that, I was super careful with our air compressor. Tires said 50 PSI Max, but the gauge was at 20 and tires seemed pretty hard so I stopped filling them.
    I get the feeling she won’t be able to take it to a repair shop(the brake pads were about worn out too) Hopefully they can find a decent one for $20 at a flea market.

    you have to invest if you want to succeed. Maybe I should send that pearl along to the Braves.

    Please do Gil! 🙂


  484. 494 Voice of Raisins October 11, 2010 at 9:50 pm

    Tension… tension… tension… 😯


  485. 495 chrisklob October 11, 2010 at 9:58 pm

    The energy in the stadium last night and tonight reminds me of the early 90’s. Nice to see it again after all these years.


  486. 496 Voice of Raisins October 11, 2010 at 10:07 pm

    Defining moment. C’mon, Rook!


  487. 497 chrisklob October 11, 2010 at 10:09 pm

    Shame on Alex Gonzalez for not running on that grounder to Renteria. My son’s little league coach would have worn him out if he’d done that in ANY game, much less a playoff game.


  488. 498 Voice of Raisins October 11, 2010 at 10:15 pm

    Might this be the last time we see the legend twist the wrist and waddle out to the mound?


  489. 499 Voice of Raisins October 11, 2010 at 10:22 pm

    OK, folks. Here we go.

    Bottom 9, down by 1, do or die.

    This is what it’s all about.

    (Let me say before the outcome is known, that I am extremely proud of this team, win or lose. They have shown so much heart and character… have overcome so many obstacles… I love ’em. I really do.)



  490. 500 chrisklob October 11, 2010 at 10:33 pm

    aw crap!


  491. 501 Voice of Raisins October 11, 2010 at 10:43 pm

    I was hoping that we might could spell “redemption” r-a-w-d-o-g. Unfortunately, fate has spellcheck…

    Oh, well. It was a great run. They went into a gunfight minus most of their bullets, and held their ground pretty well. I am still proud for them getting as far as they could.

    And so long, Bobby. Those who have dogged you will begin to appreciate you next April.

    I thought it was a nice moment when the Giants paused their celebration long enough to salute Bobby. Really special. Shows the class of their manager who is a pretty good one too. You can bet I’ll be rooting hard for the left-coasters against the Foolies!


  492. 502 Gil in Mechanicsville October 11, 2010 at 10:44 pm

    Funny game baseball, last night’s loss was a gut wrencher, tonight’s game, not so much. Congratulation to the Giants, they will now be slaughtered by the Phillies.

    Still, I too am proud of the Braves, t’was the Braves lack of defense that did in this years team. Still, they got to the finish line and gave the left coasters all the wanted.

    They can all have a good cry, exchange e-mails and go do whatever they do in the off season.

    Next big announcement will be Bobby’s replacement.


  493. 503 chrisklob October 11, 2010 at 10:44 pm

    Raisins, I am proud of this team too. So many injuries to key guys…..Chipper, JJ, Prado, Wags, Medlen.

    What disappoints me the most though is the amount of errors — not just in this series but throughout the year. Seven errors in four games is not the formula to winning much.


  494. 504 Gil in Mechanicsville October 11, 2010 at 10:47 pm

    Hey, I’m a Rays fan the rest of the way. or the Rangers… Anybody but the Yankees.. 🙂


  495. 505 berigan2electricboogaloo October 11, 2010 at 10:51 pm

    Agree with what everyone has said….I got a bit misty eyed when Bobby came out.
    Chipper, JJ, Prado, Wags, Medlen…yep, might have had a different outcome…


  496. 506 Voice of Raisins October 11, 2010 at 10:55 pm

    Bobby is a little emotional in his postgame presser. He looks tired.

    And now he gets very emotional when talking about his players. He’s like a big ol’ grandpaw.

    Sa-lute! 🙂


  497. 507 Voice of Raisins October 11, 2010 at 11:13 pm

    Bye, Bobby.

    Bye, Wags.

    Bye, Troy.

    Bye, Derrek. (Note: 2 r’s)

    Bye, Kenshin.

    Bye, Melky.

    Bye, Matty.

    Bye, Brooks.

    Bye, Farnsy.

    Bye, Takashi.

    Bye, Scott.






  498. 508 eprisewildcat October 11, 2010 at 11:40 pm

    Well y’all its been a fun ride this year. Just too many injuries and lousy luck to overcome. Still can’t believe this team made the playoffs. Are you kidding me? I don’t have a problem with how Bobby managed this team or how F.Wren put it together. Tough decisions were made and this team represented extremely well. What a shame that Bobby couldn’t put our best possible team out there for the playoffs. Really proud of our Braves!

    Got to see six games at the Ted this year and I only came home disappointed one time. Thanks A.Dunn! Got to see three comeback wins and to top it off JHey’s bomb on opening day. My little six year old grandaughter is a sold-out Braves fan. Too bad she won’t remember Bobby Cox but I’ll be proud to tell her of the 14 straight Division titles. Not many folks can wrap their brains around that feat. It was an incredible ride!



  499. 511 berigan2electricboogaloo October 12, 2010 at 8:53 am

    V, I read that too. Very good…made me a bit emotional. Amazing that Chipper has never seen Bobby emotional before. Bobby’s obviously old school, but grown men do cry…you can truly feel the love the players have for him.

    2nd article is nice, but man how hard is it to fact check the subject you are writing about in this day and age?
    But he hasn’t played in more than 134 games during a single season since 2004.

    Don’t know if I read it on something DOB said recently, or elsewhere, I recalled reading Chipper played in 140+ games in 2009. Just looked it up, 143. Anyway… a healthy Chipper, who no doubt will be in the BSOML (BSOHL?) will hopefully be hitting like he was before he went down.

    now that just leaves left and center to worry about…I still think Dunn at first and Freedie in left would work for 3 years! 😉


  500. 512 Voice of Raisins October 12, 2010 at 11:15 am

    I believe Chipper will also come back in tremendous shape. Rehab will almost force it. I look for a return to #3 hole hitter shape.

    The infield is set: Chipper, Gonzo, Martin and Freddie around the horn with Mac behind the plate. That’s the easy part. Heyward will be parked in RF for years to come. Again, the easy part. (6 roster spots, 19 left)

    Omar will return to super sub. We know Rossy will be back, and I would almost bet that Frank will dangle a decent offer in front of Hinske to bring him back as well. (3 more spots, 16 left)

    Rotation + bullpen leaves little to no question marks. (11 more spots, 5 left)

    That leaves starters in LF & CF, along with 4th OF, righty backup 1B, and one more…

    Much as I hate to say it, Nate will likely return as either LF or CF. His contract pretty much makes that a certainty. But that leaves a little flexibility in looking for the elusive power bat in that Frank isn’t locked into just one position. (1 more spot, 4 left)

    I still believe the 4th OF will be a rookie making the minimum. Maybe Matt Young… a speedster. That will likely be determined during spring. Is Jordan Schafer playing fall ball? You never know… (1 more spot, 3 left)

    The backup 1B will almost certainly be a veteran RH bat that can occasionally spell the rookie against tough lefties. I think Jorge Cantu would be a decent pickup. He can play 1B and 3B capably, and would have certainly made a difference on this year’s team. (1 more spot, 2 left)

    You still have to have another backup IF – Brooksie’s spot. Will he be back? Before the NLDS, I would have said yes. After that ham-handed display, I have to say no. I don’t believe he will be back. Given the bench presence of the LH Hinske – I am hoping – and the aforementioned RH backup 1B, this has to be a defensive spot. Diory seems likely to me, or at least someone along those lines. (1 more spot, just 1 left)

    So, the one remaining spot has to be the impact bat. The OF starter. With really just one position to fill to gain that impact bat, it sure puts alot of pressure on Frank.

    I’m glad I don’t have his job.


  501. 513 Gil in Mechanicsville October 12, 2010 at 1:06 pm

    Actually, if you only have one spot to fill, it is easier. You can concentrate all your efforts on that one spot. Certainly it is easier than trying to fill three starters or establish a viable bullpen.

    I would like to see the Braves spring for a real impact outfielder, a Jason Worth or a Carl Crawford. Will it happen? I guess it depends on how much Liberty is really willing to spend.

    Now, Bobby… I read the different tributes to Bobby Cox and I must say it is tough to keep a dry eye. After all, last time I felt this way was when Ronald Reagan left office. Was he perfect? Heck no but he was right a heck of a lot more times than he was wrong.

    Now, we all all hoping Frank Wren and company will announce quickly that Freddi Gonzales has been sign to lead the club next season. Looks like a great fit to me. All we can hope for after that is that he is given the horses necessary to be successful.


  502. 514 Gil in Mechanicsville October 12, 2010 at 1:08 pm

    Speaking of starters, how much do you think the Braves can get in return for Kershin?


  503. 515 Gil in Mechanicsville October 12, 2010 at 1:10 pm

    And one more thing, I hope the Marlins fall flat on their faces… Classless organization…


  504. 516 Voice of Raisins October 12, 2010 at 1:42 pm

    Gil, I would almost bet the mortgage that as soon as the WS is done, and the news “moratorium” is lifted, Fredi will be announced.

    As to Kenshin, his salary is not bad for a 4th or 5th starter. And more importantly, his length of contract – 1 year – is a desirable commitment. With the dearth (FOB?) of starting pitching in MLB, somebody will take him, if only for a mid-level prospect… maybe even the well traveled PTBNL. The salary savings alone is worth it even if we receive the same compensation as we got for Ryan Langerhans, which was to be a PTBNL. I am still waiting for that player to be named.

    The only fly in the ointment is that the venerable Bobby Cox abandoned him. Bobby is, er… was the manager of 2nd, 3rd, even 4th chances. That has to be a real blemish on the ol’ résumé.


  505. 517 Voice of Raisins October 12, 2010 at 2:08 pm

    As for the Marlins being a classless organization:

    By all reports, Bobby Valentine is the leading candidate for manager. Like a hand in a glove, huh?


  506. 518 Gil in Mechanicsville October 12, 2010 at 2:14 pm

    Raisins, KK actually pitched well early in the season, lack of run support was the big bug a boo as far as I could tell. Then Kershin developed a severe case of the yips. Perhaps the fact Bobby could not really communicate with him was the difference.

    On the bright side, Lowe, despite being hung with two losses in the NLDS appears to have returned to form. The return of his slider made him a real force.

    Didn’t J0Hey hit the wall both figuratively and furtively at the end of the season? Not unusual for a rookie. Especially a young rookie. He finished about where I expected as far as RBIs and BA. Next season I expect more from him.

    Yes, a healthy Chipper Jones and Martin Prado are a big difference.

    I still think the turning point for the Phillies was four years ago when Charlie Manuel challenged a reported to a fist fight while sticking up for his players during a slump. Charlie is another good ole boy from southwest Virginia. Pretty straight up folks. Will fight you to the death but will also give you the shirt off their backs…


  507. 519 berigan2electricboogaloo October 12, 2010 at 9:36 pm

    Well, one good piece of news, Fredi to be the next manager! 🙂


  508. 520 Voice of Raisins October 12, 2010 at 10:16 pm




  509. 521 Gil in Mechanicsville October 12, 2010 at 10:18 pm

    I have to say, it just shows the class the Atlanta organization has. So many other teams drag things out when replacing the manager.

    Now, the question becomes who stays and who goes as far as the coaches are concerned.

    I can’t see Freddi not having the choice of who he wants.

    It also shows how much Frank Wren has learned about keeping his mouth shut.


  510. 522 flbravesgirl October 12, 2010 at 10:40 pm

    On a completely unrelated but absolutely awesome note, the first rescue worker has just reached the Chilean miners.

    Congrats, Fredi! How long ’til pitchers & catchers report?


  511. 523 eprisewildcat October 12, 2010 at 11:24 pm

    Congratulations Fredi Gonzalez! Welcome back to Atlanta and good luck as the manager of the Atlanta Braves. I agree with my friend Gil and think this is a very classy move by the Braves. The timing of this move shows how committed this organization is to getting on with business and remaining a top MLB franchise. Can’t wait for all the developments of the 2011 Atlanta Braves.



  512. 524 chrisklob October 12, 2010 at 11:45 pm

    FBG,with respect to how long til pitchers and catchers report — waaaay too long for my liking!

    MLB.fanhouse is also reporting FG will be the next manager. I sure hope his first move is to find a hitting coach. Maybe Chipper’s dad would do it. Couldn’t be any worse than what we’ve had. Sorry TP. Not a fan of you as a coach.

    Gil, if the Braves can get a few cases of baseballs and maybe a few new bats then they should trade KK and eat his salary. I agree that he had little, if any, run support in the early part of the season. However, as the season went along, he plain sucked!

    I’d love to see Carl Crawford as a Brave in left field. Will it happen? I rather doubt it. Liberty Media would rather give their CEO a raise I’m afraid.

    As some of you may remember, my first MLB in-person experience was seeing the Rangers as a boy of about ten or so. GO RANGERS! BEAT THOSE DAMN CARPET BAGGING YANKEES!!!


  513. 525 Voice of Raisins October 13, 2010 at 7:15 am

    If I am not mistaken, wasn’t his hitting coach in FLA (who was also let go when he was) one of his best friends? Maybe I dreamed that…

    I’ll have to check that out when I get back from taking the little (one of them is as big as me) raisins to school.


  514. 526 Voice of Raisins October 13, 2010 at 8:15 am

    OK… the hitting coach, Jim Pressley (former Brave, remember?) was fired, but that is not the guy I was thinking of. Carlos Tosca, who was his bench coach was also fired He is the one that I believe is very close to him. In fact Mark Bowman speculates that Fredi would like to bring Tosca aboard… well, let’s just read what Bowman says:

    While serving as the Marlins skipper, Gonzalez kept his family’s residence in suburban Atlanta. In the process, he continued to strengthen his close friendship with Cox and Braves pitching coach Roger McDowell.

    McDowell and Eddie Perez appear to be the most likely candidates to serve as holdovers on the Atlanta coaching staff. First-base coach Glenn Hubbard also seems to be a strong candidate to be kept.

    There has been some speculation that Gonzalez would like his staff to include Carlos Tosca, who served as his bench coach during this tenure with the Marlins. This is a role that some of the Braves players feel best suits Perez, who seems to be just a few years away from gaining his first Major League managerial position.

    Gonzalez also shared a close friendship with Braves hitting coach Terry Pendleton. But it seems highly unlikely that the organization would allow him to keep Pendleton on his staff in the same role. [Ouch! 😯 ]

    Many of the Braves players have also expressed hope that third-base coach Brian Snitker might have a chance to remain a part of Gonzalez’s coaching staff. Snitker has served as a player, coach or manager in the Braves organization dating back to 1977.

    OK, my guess…

    Roger stays. No-brainer. Hubby stays at 1B. Eddie stays, but as 3B coach. Snitker is reassigned in the organization. Tosca comes in as bench coach. Chino is gone. TP is gone. Bullpen coach comes from within the organization. Hitting coach is a fresh hire.


  515. 527 Voice of Raisins October 13, 2010 at 8:19 am

    Oops! Forgot to close my italics! 😳

    This part should not have been italicized. It is me, not Bowman:

    OK, my guess…

    Roger stays. No-brainer. Hubby stays at 1B. Eddie stays, but as 3B coach. Snitker is reassigned in the organization. Tosca comes in as bench coach. Chino is gone. TP is gone. Bullpen coach comes from within the organization. Hitting coach is a fresh hire.


  516. 528 Voice of Raisins October 13, 2010 at 8:21 am

    Looks like JJ is gonna have the knee scoped and be ready for spring.



  517. 529 Voice of Raisins October 13, 2010 at 9:02 am

    Magglio Ordonez, anyone?


  518. 530 Gil in Mechanicsville October 13, 2010 at 9:52 am

    Well, I’m looking forward to spring training again this year. I think I will change up things just a bit and make sure I take in a couple of Nats games too.

    Fearless prediction, I don’t think the Nats will end up in the cellar again in 2011. Too many good players in the pipeline.

    One has to wonder what Bobby’s role will be next year. Scouting HS players within 25 miles of home?

    I sure hope JJ experience with the knee goes better than mine. I still regret that move. Of course, I am sure he has a better surgeon.

    Hitting coach for the Braves… So many choices and all of them better than Terry…

    I think all of Bobby’s minions will be offered jobs with the Braves, just not sure where.

    Fun fact: Did ya’ll know that Carlos Tosca also served as a manager for the Richmond Braves?


  519. 531 Gil in Mechanicsville October 13, 2010 at 10:04 am

    And on an even more positive note, what a find this kid Brandon Beachy turned out to be. Some real depth in the pitching ranks for the Bravos.

    There has got to be some power somewhere available to support all these good arms the Braves system is producing.


  520. 532 Gil in Mechanicsville October 13, 2010 at 10:13 am

    And one more thing while I’m feeling mouthy… Having a hitting philosophy that preaches going the other way a lot only really works when you also have some speed available so you are not always playing station to station baseball…

    The Braves had lots of base runners this season but so many times they were left standing on the bases. The Braves really need to have some guys who can also hit for power.

    Sometimes you need to have guys like Adam Dunn and Ryan Howard on your team who are in scoring position while standing in the batter’s box.


  521. 534 Voice of Raisins October 13, 2010 at 2:46 pm

    Well, I was wrong… way wrong. Via tweets from press conference going on right now:

    TP will remain as 1B coach and infield instructor, not hitting coach. Roger, Eddie, Snitker all stay. Chino is gone. Hubbard is gone.

    No word on incoming hitting coach, or on bench coach. I am pretty surprised about Hubbard.


  522. 535 Voice of Raisins October 13, 2010 at 2:49 pm


    Braves never interviewed anyone else. Wren and Gonzalez met for 6 hours at a lake cabin back in June, then had a 2nd interview in Sept. when other teams started calling him.


  523. 536 Voice of Raisins October 13, 2010 at 2:55 pm

    Again, thanks to DOB’s twitter:

    Quote from Frank: “He was on our radar BEFORE he got fired.”

    Ours too! 😆


  524. 537 chrisklob October 13, 2010 at 2:55 pm

    Wow, Hubbard is gone? That’s a surprise to me.


  525. 538 Voice of Raisins October 13, 2010 at 2:57 pm

    You know, I gotta say, I like the move of TP to 1B coach. I think he is a very valuable baseball guy. Maybe not so much a hitting coach, but a valuable guy to have around. Still, hate to see Hubby go. Neither he nor Chino were offered positions in the organization.


  526. 539 Voice of Raisins October 13, 2010 at 2:59 pm

    And now it is reported that Carlos Tosca is coming in as bench coach.

    No surprise there either, really. It’s probably a comfort thing between Fredi and Tosca, and that’s cool. We want him as comfortable as he can be.


  527. 540 Voice of Raisins October 13, 2010 at 3:03 pm

    Bowman: Gonzalez signed a three-year contract with a club option for a fourth season, which would be 2014. He will wear uniform No. 33.


  528. 541 berigan2electricboogaloo October 13, 2010 at 3:32 pm

    Surprised about Hubbard too…wonder if there is some backstory to that…sigh…thought TP was gone…


  529. 542 berigan2electricboogaloo October 13, 2010 at 3:34 pm

    and V, I know you are not the only one that thinks Infante should go back to being a super sub, but can you really do that to a guy who was in the hunt for the batting title til the last week? Hey son, great that you hit .321 and you had the 3rd best ba in the NL, now it’s back to 200-300 ABs


  530. 543 Voice of Raisins October 13, 2010 at 3:52 pm



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  533. 546 Voice of Raisins October 13, 2010 at 4:07 pm

    OK… I’ll expand…

    Prior to 2010, the best Omar has ever hit as a regular is .264 in 503 AB’s as a starter in Detroit. The following season he hit .222 in 406 AB’s.

    As the Braves super sub, Omar has hit .293 in 317 AB’s in ’08, .305 in 203 AB’s last season. And of course .321 in 471 AB’s this season when he admittedly was tired down the stretch.

    Now, I think Omar is more valuable to the team being able to spell a number of players a few times a week. They stay fresh, and his bat is not a liability. If you have guys go down, which happens (see 2010), then you have a guy who can step right in.

    You can’t guarantee a guy a starting job based on one unexpected outstanding season same as you don’t demote or trade a guy for having one down season. Now, that said… if Martin or Gonzo or whoever struggles consistently next season, and Omar is the Omar of 2010, then he should earn playing time. It’s actually pretty simple. You put the best guys you have on the field. If I have Chipper, Gonzo, Martin and Freddie ready to go everyday, I’m not starting Omar. If he can start in CF or LF, great for him. But that simply means he is the best option we have there. I hope the Braves have some bona fide power options for one or both of those spots for 2011.


  534. 547 berigan2electricboogaloo October 13, 2010 at 4:07 pm

    Wouldn’t it have been funny if my connection went down between those two posts? 😆

    Well, I still think he deserves to start…and here comes the tough part. IF we can’t/won’t pay what Crawford or Worth are werth…or whatever…we have to trade for a bat. Still don’t know who is going to give up someone like we need. But, if we can…we are going to have to give something up. Like a top pitching prospect and…Infante or….PRADO! I know, I know…but, do we want to go through next year with what we have the last several years, 4th outfielders instead of real live everyday player in left?

    Besides, we’d be selling high on either of them. Might be hard to trade Prado just because of the seriousness of his injury…and I’d rather keep him and I am sure most here would agree…just a thought….


  535. 548 berigan2electricboogaloo October 13, 2010 at 4:14 pm

    V, I totally see where you are coming from…and it makes sense…But if, and a big IF , if Prado and Infante can each hit .290+ batting 1-2, with Chipper behind them, we are better off than say…I don’t know, Freeman batting 2nd, and Gonzo hitting .250 and batting 7th, with Omar on the bench, IMO.

    Aren’t you glad the dumb ol’ season is over so we can get to the most exciting time of the year, hot stove time? 😛 😕


  536. 549 Voice of Raisins October 13, 2010 at 4:25 pm

    Martin and Omar are both needed on this team in 2011 and beyond.

    When you have a need to fill, you deal from an area of strength. What most people don’t realize is that the farm system is developed for more than just providing players for the major league roster. It’s also developed for providing trade pieces to fill needs. The Braves have a pretty good surplus of young pitching, and that is like having Fort Knox in MLB. Not only do we have the veterans DLowe and Huddy, we have young ML pitchers JJ, Big Red, Meds, Minor and now Beachy. Then, you have comers Delgado, Teheran and Vizcaino all targeted to arrive between 2011-2012. That doesn’t even bring into the picture younger guys like Brett Devall and Cole Rohrbaugh. And there are others I have forgotten about, I’m sure.

    The point is, we have the bullets to load and fire at the trade market. The only question really is this:

    Is Frank gun shy?


  537. 550 Voice of Raisins October 13, 2010 at 4:31 pm

    And I do love me some Hot Stove time… 😀


  538. 551 Gil in Mechanicsville October 13, 2010 at 4:31 pm

    Hot stove time… more like it’s still on pilot light….

    Yes, a bit of a surprise for bot Chino and Hubbard but I suspect they will both land on their feet somewhere. Chino is a pretty good baseball guy and so is Glen. Hey, somebody has to go to make room for the newbies.

    So I guess the big question is who will be the Braves hitting coach? May I add that a base running coach might be a welcome addition too?

    I don’t have a bit of problem having Omar return to a sub role. He can relieve three times a week and keep the whole infield fresh.


  539. 552 Voice of Raisins October 13, 2010 at 4:37 pm

    According to sports talk radio reports, the rumor mill keeps churning the name of Jim Pressley, who was Fredi’s hitting coach in FLA.

    I don’t know… I don’t really know much about him. But logic kinda says that if Tosca is announced today, why wouldn’t Pressley allso be announced if he was indeed coming in?

    Doesn’t make sense. Plus, I think after the well documented offensive struggles, and the obvious heightened awareness by the fans, I think that Frank & Co. may have an agenda here. I would not be surprised at all to hear of some big name former player that is not on anybody’s radar.


  540. 553 Voice of Raisins October 13, 2010 at 4:53 pm

    Speaking again of TP staying on as 1B coach, I think it serves a multi-fold function.

    #1. He relinquishes his hitting coach duties while saving a bit of dignity. Good for the Braves, good for TP.

    #2. He is a good baseball man, and well respected in the clubhouse. It was stated that he can now have “more influence on the game”, and that may be true. He was a gamer when he played, and if he can bring that to the field again, that can only be positive. Gil, you said we need a “base-running coach”. Well, that is sometimes one of the duties of the 1B coach (see Dave Lopes). I think he could do a good job in that respect as well. Again, good for Braves, good for TP.

    #3. Pardon me for bringing race into the conversation, but reality exists even in a politically correct bubble. Retaining TP keeps an African American on the coaching staff, and having him as 1B coach makes that fact a little higher profile. Given that the Braves did not interview any “minorities”, (even though Fredi is Cuban), letting TP go would have created a PR firestorm that I am sure nobody in a Braves necktie wanted to see. Good for the Braves, good for TP.


  541. 554 Gil in Mechanicsville October 13, 2010 at 7:54 pm

    ooooooooooohhh the race card… think I could use that to get Crawford?


  542. 555 berigan2electricboogaloo October 13, 2010 at 11:14 pm

    Gil, I sure hope so! Have to have an Oreo outfield with Nate in the middle…it’s only right. Boycott Liberty Media otherwise!


  543. 556 chrisklob October 13, 2010 at 11:27 pm

    Not that anyone wants to know what I think but I’m perfectly content with Omar as a super sub so long as he gets enough AB’s to keep that stick fresh. I don’t think he was the best at any particular position but he was tremendous as a sub for something like five or six spots this year? He won’t likely win a Gold Glove but he won’t embarass you at any spot he finds himself. A guy like that is a terrific asset for a team and allows the other bench spots on your roster to be more versatile too.

    Gil, I don’t know that Crawford is a viable option — as much as I’d like to see him in a Braves uni. There is already one African-American on the team and if another is added then what will Terrible Terrance have to bitch about any more? :=)

    I haven’t paid nearly as close attention as I’d like. Can anyone give me an idea of what is coming off payroll, what is still on payroll and what they might have to spend? Might be interesting to see…….


  544. 557 Gil in Mechanicsville October 14, 2010 at 8:28 am

    Not much really Clubber… Wagner,Saito,Glaus,Lee. The only folks on this team making significant money are Chipper, Huddy and Lowe. Then there is Nate and Kawakami.

    It all depends on what kind of salary cap Liberty imposes as to the quality of the next years outfield.


  545. 558 berigan2electricboogaloo October 14, 2010 at 9:28 am

    Interesting…that is about 11 mil coming off the books. Sadly, if Chipper retired, it would give us another 10-12+ mil, but I don’t want to see that, and I am sure most people don’t either…thats where a hungry owner, like the Tigers, Angels, etc comes in handy. A Liberty Media type ownership is fine with just getting into the playoffs…


  546. 559 Voice of Raisins October 14, 2010 at 9:52 am

    Let’s look at this…

    Wagner, had a $6.5M option for 2011. His role will likely be assumed by a kid making the league minimum. approximate savings – $5M

    Saito, made $3.2M in 2010. He will likely be replaced by a similar veteran at a similar salary. approximate savings – even

    Glaus, made $1.75 in 2010 plus about about another mil in incentive bonuses. He’s definitely gone. Freddie makes the league minimum. approximate savings – $1M

    Lee, $13M in 2010, but never really in Atlanta’s 2011 payroll structure anyway. We can pretty much ignore him. approximate savings – even

    And don’t forget these 2 “playoff heroes” that likely won’t be back:

    Ankiel, made $2.75 in 2010, has a club option for $6M for 2011. There is a better chance that I become the next hitting coach than the Braves picking up this option.approximate savings –

    Farnsworth, he drew $4.5M in 2010, and has a club option for $5.25 for 2011. I don’t think the Braves will pick up that option, unless they feel he could be the “Saito” veteran in the ‘pen. I still do not believe they will pay more than they paid Saito last year. approximate savings – $5M

    Likely KK will be traded for nothing more than salary relief. He is due $6.667M for 2011. approximate savings –
    we’ll call this $4.5
    since the Braves may pick up a couple mil to trade him.

    If you non-tender guys like Diaz (4th year arb eligible) and Melky (3rd year) arb eligible, you can free up a little more.

    Matty made $2.55M in 2010, and would make at least $3M in his last arb year. Melky made $3.1M in 2010, and is probably in line for at least $4M in 2011. Their replacement as 44th OF will probably make the league minimum. approximate combined savings – $6M

    So the way I see it, the Braves will actually gain about $24.25 before arb raises and other contract escalation.

    Let’s be conservative and simply cut my estimation in half. The Braves should have at least $12M to pour into a new OF.

    That won’t buy you Crawford or Werth, but it would pay a guy like Matt Kemp, who is slated to make $10.95 for 2011. He’d look OK in LF, wouldn’t he?


  547. 560 Voice of Raisins October 14, 2010 at 9:56 am

    44th OF? 😯

    “4” key got a little sticky, there… 😆


  548. 561 Voice of Raisins October 14, 2010 at 10:13 am

    Hey… here’s a novel idea.

    How about you go after Colby Rasmus in a creative way. He’s young, still making close to nothing – 1 year of service time and not arb eligible until 2012. He’s a diamond in that he’s young, talented, cheap, and cost certain for a few years. He is what Schafer was supposed to be.

    How about we offer up a young pitcher not named Teheran or Delgado (Vizcaino maybe?) and Nate, and offer to pay Nate’s full 2011 salary of $6.5M plus the $1.25M buyout in 2012 if they choose to exercise it. We are no worse off in salary, and gain a ton in talent. They don’t add to their payroll, and gain a “replacement” CF plus a stud pitching prospect. We can even throw in James Parr to sweeten the deal.

    Rasmus batted .276 w/ 22 HR’s and 66 RBI in 2010. He would make a sweet #2 hitter behind Martin.

    And we’d still have our $12+ to go after a boppin’ RH LF.


  549. 562 Voice of Raisins October 14, 2010 at 10:22 am

    Reckon Pat Burrell is the player he was with the Giants for the 2nd half of 2010, or the player he was with Tampa before that?

    Jeckyll and Hyde…


  550. 563 berigan2electricboogaloo October 14, 2010 at 10:24 am

    V, I know you said approximate savings when referring to Ankle and Farnsworth, but the braves only paid them for the last 2 months…
    You make a very good point about Melky and Diaz…forgot about them….Like Diaz, but he sure had an off year. Wanted to like Melky but…I guess everyone is a better player in pinstripes, what with great hitters in front of and behind you…
    so there is more savings than I thought. And if we can trade KK and save even 1 Mil, its worth it.
    I’d love to see Colby with the braves!
    Their offense is pretty weak though, and I don’t think another starter is what they are aiming for…jus