115: And in a close play at the plate the Braves are…….

by Gil in Mechanicsville

Coming down the home stretch it looks like it’s going to be a close play at the plate for the Braves.

Kris Medlen

Last year at this time, we were all thinking, the Phillies are going to catch us but we should still make the playoffs, after all, no one has ever not made it with so much cushion.

Mike Minor

Then the doubt set in as two thirds of the starting rotation went down and Prado came up lame at the final turn. Alas, perhaps one of our greatest fears came into being. The only thing that saved the Bravos from being the number one choke story of the year is the Boston Red Sox managed to pull off the same feat.

So, the Braves are again looking squarely in the eyes of making the list of teams who will be

Ben Sheets

playing October baseball but perhaps this season, Atlanta will limp across the finish line ahead of the pack. Certainly, our pitching staff looks to be in better shape and the position players are not nearly as nicked up as last season.

All that said, it will take some good luck to go along with some good fortune and good defense for the 2012 edition of Los Bravos to go deep into the playoffs. Perhaps we should all remember the sage advice given to NASCAR drivers when they are reminded, β€œto finish first, first you must finish”. Being in a one game crap shoot just for the opportunity to meet a division champion is not the most

Paul Maholm

enviable position but it is certainly a more enviable place to be than perhaps Denver or Kansas City or the twenty two other major league teams who will be calling it quits after game 162 of the schedule. Heck, some of those teams called it quits on July 4th. Just ask the Marlins….

Anyway, adversity builds character and Lord knows the Braves have had a lot of character building done the past five or six seasons. At least the Braves have a solid pitching staff and a very deep and dependable bullpen to go with an offense which has shown it can get as hot as anyone for extended stretches.

I think we can pretty much rely on the likes of Venters, O’Flaherty, Durbin and Kimbrel to come out of the pen and make any game a 6 inning game. If only the Braves can keep Hudson, Sheets, Hanson and Maholm from giving the game away in the first six innings, I like our chances. Okay, maybe not enough to bet the family farm but I would be willing to put up someone else’s farm…..


265 Responses to “115: And in a close play at the plate the Braves are…….”

  1. 1 Carolina Lady August 24, 2012 at 7:28 pm

    Thanks much, Gil! Good thoughts.


  2. 2 Voice of Raisins August 24, 2012 at 7:52 pm

    Awesome, Gil… awesome.


  3. 3 Voice of Raisins August 24, 2012 at 7:53 pm

    So, baseball doesn’t often see blockbuster deals anymore, but one’s a-brewin’ between the Coasts right now. A big’un, too. 8o


  4. 4 Voice of Raisins August 24, 2012 at 7:53 pm



  5. 5 berigan2electricboogaloo August 25, 2012 at 4:59 am

    Gil, once again, a very nice job! πŸ™‚
    Sorry I didn’t get one started…I sorta had a thought, then they started to tank, then I didn’t really have the time, then a dog ate my idea! πŸ˜•

    Man, you know….the Giants lost their best hitter, and haven’t lost a step…amazing. How well would the braves play without JHey, or Bourn for an extended period?
    And this makes 3 bad starts in a row for Sheets. Hopefully, this is like a pitcher in spring training going through the dead arm period.
    Weird time for a blockbuster too! Normally, players get claimed then pulled back, but no one was willing to take on any of those contracts, even Adrian Gonzalez’s except for the Dodgers.


  6. 6 Carolina Lady August 25, 2012 at 2:25 pm

    Sheets to the 15-day DL for shoulder inflammation.


  7. 7 berigan2electricboogaloo August 25, 2012 at 4:31 pm

    CL, thanks for the update… I think 😦
    Wonder who replaces him, or if they just go back to a 5 man rotation?


  8. 8 Gil in Mechanicsville August 25, 2012 at 4:36 pm

    If I were Ben Sheets and I saw Eric Hinske playing left field behind me any more this season, I would have a shoulder inflammation too…. A guy like Sheets who has to pitch to contact has to have the very best defense behind him to have a chance.

    Like Greg Maddux once told an umpire while being squeeze in a game him was pitching for the Padres, “I’m not that good any more. I need those calls off the plate”…

    So, Minor needs a bit of run support and Hanson just needs to run… And I guess the 6 man rotation is done with too. Just as well, it wasn’t working out very well for the Braves anyway.

    And thanks for the Kudos guys, and thanks to the “graphics department” folks too CL πŸ™‚


  9. 9 Gil in Mechanicsville August 25, 2012 at 5:34 pm

    Hey guys, the game is on Fox…


  10. 10 Gil in Mechanicsville August 25, 2012 at 7:34 pm

    Okay, once again the earth’s axis has regained its proper tilt and angle. All it took was for me to return to the center of the universe so I could properly view the game and lend my well headed advice from whence it can be overheard.

    Hey, I can’t explain it, I just go with the flow….

    Good for Minor to get a bit of run support for a change.

    That said, MaCarver seems so sad his Giants lost…. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!


  11. 11 Voice of Raisins August 27, 2012 at 7:20 am

    Our beloved Braves made a very nice showing for the national audience last night. JHey and Free-dog going back2back yicketty late was icing on the cake. JHey is becoming the player we all thought he’d be. Having those 2 guys 3-4 in our order for a while is gonna be SWEET.

    And Francisco has made as much improvement in 1 season as I think I have ever seen out of a player. He looks like he might could stick and play this game every day. Mamo shot to center off a 83 mph off-speed pitch. Monstrous power.

    By the way, Jon Miller without Joe Morgan is better, but he’s still Jon Miller. Can’t stand the voice, or the air of superiority. And Hershiser? Well, he’s an improvement over Morgan. That’s about all I can say.


  12. 12 Gil in Mechanicsville August 27, 2012 at 9:12 am

    Raisins. that was not Jon Miller last night.

    However, I do agree with your assessment of Jon, he is like finger nails across the chalk board for me.

    Now baseball… Huddy was really sharp last night. Best I have seen him in a while. Maybe he just hates the hot humid weather in Georgia. Lord knows, I have been going through 3 tee shirts a day here and I am not really doing anything. 80-90 percent humidity will do that to you I guess. Anyway, good to see Paul Janish having them drop in for him. That two run triple was big last night.

    I don’t know if y’all noticed last night but Juan-gone’s head stayed right on that ball he crushed to center. Great example of what happens when you don’t pull off the ball. Which, by the way, is what Uggla had been doing a lot….


  13. 13 berigan2electricboogaloo August 27, 2012 at 9:14 am

    V, I believe its back2back yicketty yak! πŸ˜‰
    Jon Miller was canned with Joe Morgan…can’t think of this guys name…generic network guy…but you are right, better than the M&M boys
    Hudson I thought was going to toss a shutout…I think that missing the first month is going to make him stronger than he ever has been come September…


  14. 14 Voice of Raisins August 27, 2012 at 1:06 pm

    Raisins. that was not Jon Miller last night.

    I turned the volume wa-a-ay down.


  15. 15 Salty August 27, 2012 at 3:30 pm

    Hello….hello, hello!

    Los Bravos are hangin’ in there! Just when you want to toss the towel, they kick it up a notch. Huddy’s the man! So is the ‘Angry Ewok’! (What a great nickname!


  16. 16 Voice of Raisins August 27, 2012 at 3:52 pm

    Wassup Salt-dude!


  17. 17 Voice of Raisins August 27, 2012 at 3:52 pm



  18. 18 Voice of Raisins August 27, 2012 at 4:34 pm

    In the wake of this week’s blockbuster deal in which the Dodgers seemingly replaced half their roster, Rosie reports today that they are still seeking another starting pitcher. I am trying to fathom this. The Dodgers just took on $248MM in salary obligations, and they’re still out shopping. To be a little more clear, allow me to give you the Dodgers’ new yearly salary obligation breakdown as it stands today (assuming Colletti hasn’t picked up CC Sabathia in the last 10 minutes), according to Cot’s Contracts:

    “The club now has a $193.75MM in contract obligations for next season, $133.6MM for 2014, $90MM for 2015, $88.65MM for 2015, and another $90MM for 2016.”

    And they’re still shopping.

    “How” you might ask? Simple. They have a new TV contract coming up this offseason. As asinine as it seems to suddenly pool all of these salaries together, the talent represented gives them incredible leverage when it comes to negotiating this contract. And as we have painfully learned here in The A, TV contracts drive the team bus.

    Or in Atlanta’s case, our TV contract drives the team’s Mini Cooper.


  19. 19 berigan2electricboogaloo August 27, 2012 at 4:52 pm

    Hey Salty!
    V, as Carl Sagan might have said about the Dodgers TV contract…Billions and Billions of dollars…imagine the contract the braves could get if TBS still broadcast the majority of their games??? Sigh….


  20. 20 Voice of Raisins August 27, 2012 at 5:02 pm

    I do imagine it, Ber. I also imagine Nick Swisher in LF. Both are just dreams however…


  21. 21 Salty August 27, 2012 at 8:58 pm

    Howdy VOR (soon to be aka: Marathon Man) and Ber! Nice write-up, Gil! A very pleasant evening, CL! Hope all are well!

    Swisher? Really? Hmmm…..


  22. 22 Gil in Mechanicsville August 28, 2012 at 10:04 am

    Good to see (in a manner of speaking) you again Salty… You presence is sorely missed.

    Aughh.. How did I forget it was Monday, otherwise known as guaranteed win night by the Braves opponents.

    While Maholn did not pitch poorly, He did not pitch the required shutout needed by the Braves’ putrid offense.

    As for Batista, throw him back on the scrap heap Frank, there has to be some other kid who actually can throw strikes available for mop up duty in the organization.

    Okay, it’s Kris Medlen on the mound for the Braves tonight. He is about as automatic as the Braves have right now, I hope I can stay awake long enough to see him get another win..


  23. 23 berigan2electricboogaloo August 28, 2012 at 1:31 pm

    yeah, Mondays…. as for Batista…I have to admit, it’s hard to watch games sometimes when you just figure the team isn’t going to score(and the Padres always seem to have a very good bullpen) so missed his “performance” but, explain it to me as to why he is on the club, and Cory Gearrin is in the minors?
    Check out his stats…1 run in 11 innings, and hadn’t given up any runs in his last 10 games
    but he is in the minors…ok…
    and Chad Durbin’s arm is going to fall off…I know, he’s not as “important” as the big 3, yet he is with Medlen in the rotation. You need other arms to call on…14 games this month and the month ain’t over….
    At least Uggla got a hit, and hit a ball to CF that would have been out just about any other park…
    Joe Simpson made a good point…doesn’t really care what a player, or team has done all season, what have they done in the past 10 games…Padres are a good club, since the all star break…I think they are 30-20 in the last 50 games…


  24. 24 Carolina Lady August 28, 2012 at 1:45 pm

    Hey, Salty!! Miss you here!

    Raisins, you crack me up!

    How I wish the Braves games would be broadcast nationally. Every game. TBS had the very best crews anywhere. The shots were always there. Remember how Skip used to give Glenn Diamond a hard time? Those WERE the days!!


  25. 25 berigan2electricboogaloo August 29, 2012 at 7:39 am

    I wonder if Medlen would have been this good all season, or not??? Amazing!


  26. 26 Salty August 29, 2012 at 8:00 am

    Mornin’, all! The ‘Angry Ewok’ does it again! He’s simply unflappable. Hope he’s in Hanson’s ear today!


  27. 27 Voice of Raisins August 29, 2012 at 8:03 am

    Somehow I missed the “Angry Ewok” reference. I’ll have to beg for clarification… 😦


  28. 28 Gil in Mechanicsville August 29, 2012 at 9:01 am

    Man, what a nice game by the Braves last night, I sure do like watching Medlen pitch. Great interview with Kris’ high school coach too. Revels a bit about Medlen’s tenacity. Two pick offs in one game, wow. Been a while since I have witnessed that feat, been a while since I have seen Ugly go long too…


  29. 29 Salty August 29, 2012 at 12:20 pm

    VOR….it was in a tweet by, I believe, Jeff Schulz a couple weeks ago….I just happened to see it. Something about Medlen being intimidating….’yeah, like an Angry Ewok’! I thought it was great!


  30. 30 Voice of Raisins August 29, 2012 at 2:53 pm

    Thanks Salty. That’s a good’un.

    Berigan!!! Wake up!!! 3:35pm EST start today. Getaway day from the Left Coast.


  31. 31 Voice of Raisins August 29, 2012 at 2:58 pm

    2day’s lineup:
    1- Bourn, CF
    2- Johnson, LF 2nd? Really?
    3- Heyward, RF
    4- Chipper, 3B
    5- Prado, 1B 5th? Really?
    6- Ross, C
    7- Uggla, 2B
    8- Janish, SS
    9- Hanson, P


  32. 32 Gil in Mechanicsville August 29, 2012 at 2:58 pm

    So, the “Angry Ewok” it shall be…. πŸ™‚


  33. 33 Voice of Raisins August 29, 2012 at 3:00 pm


  34. 34 Voice of Raisins August 29, 2012 at 3:01 pm

    I believe the reason they are playing this one early is that Martin is scheduled to speak at the Republican National Convention.


  35. 35 Voice of Raisins August 29, 2012 at 3:01 pm

    … after he flies the team home tonight.


  36. 36 Salty August 29, 2012 at 3:05 pm

    Uhm….6:35 start for us East-Coasters.


  37. 37 Voice of Raisins August 29, 2012 at 3:08 pm

    Does this mean that Martin will miss his speech? πŸ˜›


  38. 38 Voice of Raisins August 29, 2012 at 3:10 pm

    (Actually, I knew that, Salty. I was trying to make sure to give Berigan plenty of time so as to NOT miss the game.)


  39. 39 Voice of Raisins August 29, 2012 at 3:11 pm

    You believe that, right? πŸ™„


  40. 40 Salty August 29, 2012 at 4:09 pm

    But, of course….


  41. 41 Salty August 29, 2012 at 4:10 pm

    ….and….you’ll have time for your 2-mile run! Or…is it three, now? πŸ˜†


  42. 42 Gil in Mechanicsville August 29, 2012 at 9:23 pm

    Well, that certainly was ugly. Really, really ugly….


  43. 43 Voice of Raisins August 29, 2012 at 9:30 pm

    Hanson = bust


  44. 44 berigan2electricboogaloo August 29, 2012 at 11:21 pm

    Heh, at 3:35, I was just finishing up….root canal procedure…fun! πŸ˜•


  45. 45 berigan2electricboogaloo August 30, 2012 at 2:16 am

    But, I went to trivia and was near a tv with the braves game on…unfortunately. V, I’m guessing Hanson is hurt?


  46. 46 Salty August 30, 2012 at 7:12 am

    Gil nailed Hanson a couple of years ago. His delivery has too many moving parts, and he’s a big guy. That only complicates getting all of the elements in sync. His curve was very good yesterday, but he couldn’t spot a fastball if it had just been him and the catcher. My son hit it yesterday, if Beachy were still around, it would be Tommy, who?

    He needs a complete mechanics make-over…not sure that’s possible..but a poorly located 88 mph fastball becomes a souvenir…fast!


  47. 47 Voice of Raisins August 30, 2012 at 7:23 am

    He needs a complete mechanics make-over…

    He needs a “fresh start” somewhere else…


  48. 48 Voice of Raisins August 30, 2012 at 7:35 am

    He needs a complete mechanics make-over…

    Actually, I think that may be one of the problems. He reworked some of those mechanics already in an effort to take some of the strain on his shoulder. All that really accomplished was to slow down an already tortoiselike delivery. And in the process, this still young 26-year-old (his birthday was Tuesday) has lost velocity off his fastball.

    The key to his early success was a well placed 93-94 mph fastball. The key to his current woes is “a poorly located 88 mph fastball…” *Salty

    He’s done. He’ll never again sit in the mid-90’s. He doesn’t have good enough stuff to live otherwise. When you have the kind of changeup that Medlen has, that Glavine and Maddux had, you don’t have to throw hard. Hanson has “a poorly located 88 mph fastball”, a loopy curve, and little else.

    Hanson should be in his prime right now… an ace racking up double digit K’s in every start on his way to 15+ wins a season. Instead, he’s destined to be a 4th starter for Kansas City…


  49. 49 berigan2electricboogaloo August 30, 2012 at 2:07 pm

    Satly’s son = Smart! πŸ™‚


  50. 50 Carolina Lady August 31, 2012 at 2:12 am

    Salty, how is your young soldier?


  51. 51 berigan2electricboogaloo September 1, 2012 at 5:46 am

    what? doesn’t anyone want to talk about that great game last night?? πŸ™„
    That was truly a team loss. Looked like once again Minor wasn’t going to get any support, but Roy Halladay looked terrible, (and hurt, I sure hope it isn’t too serious, seems like one of the good guys) braves offense finally came alive…but still left what, 10 men on base? Kimbrel made a rare mistake, but it cost the team dearly. McCann made a great throw to get Juan Pierre at 2nd, but he had another ball go between his legs(can’t recall if a run scored because of it, or not) don’t understand how after all these years he can’t go to his knees to block those…Phils look…well, hungry. Interesting. They really are playing good ball, small ball, big ball. they are 8 back in the WC. Nah, they can’t do what they did to the Mets a few years back, from 7 back to the title, right? Too thin a lineup….if they did get into the WC, Charlie Manual needs to win manager of the decade! πŸ˜‰

    Jack Wilson, as expected, was cut. Hinske wasn’t, sadly enough. After striking out to end the game, he is now hitting .197. Swell that’s hes a swell guy…but Overbay was/is actually hitting. Watch him get a few big hits, and now be able to play in the playoffs, IF the braves make the playoffs. Moylan will get the callup too.


  52. 52 berigan2electricboogaloo September 1, 2012 at 7:30 am

    NOT make the playoff roster, is what I tried to say about Overbay…
    I forgot, the braves did get Jeff Baker from the Tigers who is right handed, and hits lefties pretty well, so that’s good…


  53. 53 Gil in Mechanicsville September 2, 2012 at 6:54 pm

    Afternoon all, been away from the CPU a few days trying to get rid of a white elephant… no, not Hinske, another white elephant… Did not see the last few games, maybe a good thing huh? Watching the Phillies pound the Braves again and I feel very very unsure about the Braves lack of mojo right now… Definitely need a spark plug t o get them going again.

    I wonder how long Scott Boris will stay with his previously hot commodity pitchers in the Braves organization? That would be JJ and Tommy.. and as I hunt and peck, Freddie is about to throw in the towel and bring in Bastita.



  54. 54 Gil in Mechanicsville September 2, 2012 at 9:18 pm

    And just when you think, okay, will have to regroup tomorrow… WHAM!!! 3 run homer by the Chipper… Who would have thunk it?


  55. 55 Gil in Mechanicsville September 3, 2012 at 8:40 am

    Chipper was right, “shame on me” 😦


  56. 56 berigan2electricboogaloo September 3, 2012 at 8:43 am

    Gil, I was a BAD braves fan yesterday! 😦 I woke up late(weird, huh? Staying up late, you tend to wake up late too) didn’t know when the game was on, saw it was 5-0 then 7-1 with Cole Hamels on the mound…well, no sense watching that game, right?? πŸ˜• Man, what a comeback! Wish I had flipped around near the end of the game to see that…We are sure going to miss ol Chipper next year, aren’t we???


  57. 57 Salty September 3, 2012 at 4:25 pm

    Wake up, Ber, or you’ll miss the replay of this afternoon’s game! πŸ˜†


  58. 58 Gil in Mechanicsville September 3, 2012 at 6:24 pm

    Got to say, Kris Medlen and Brandon Beachy are two guys who you could build your pitching staff around. Mike Minor appears to be maturing at a rapid rate so soon Tim Hudson will be the 5th guy on the staff,

    Today’s game had such a different feel to it after watching the Braves go through the motions for the past week and a half.

    And what of Uggla? Think he will get his head out of his butt and realize he has to produce to play on a contender? I’ll be honest, I like the guy. I thought he brought a level of intensity to the team but like Jason Bay of the Mets, you have to figure it out pretty quick or face the fact you can be replaced by a guy making a fraction of the money you are.

    Message to Dan, stop trying to hit everything to Macon and settle for some well placed gappers to right. Maybe he should review the film of Andruw Jones flailing away in his last two years in Atlanta and see how fast your average can drop. Homeruns don’t come very often if that is all you are trying to hit because pitchers will off speed you to death.

    Stay tuned… this isn’t done yet. Fredi knows if the Braves don’t make the playoffs this season, he will likely be coaching third base for the Astros next season.


  59. 59 berigan2electricboogaloo September 3, 2012 at 7:12 pm

    So, fess up…ANYONE watch the end of yesterday’s game? I accidentally deleted the baseball tonight that ran at 2:30 AM…shoot. Well, saw it online, Chip never sounded more chipper on that call! πŸ˜‰
    Can’t wait for the game tonight, Medlen pitching…wait, it’s Monday? Gosh, perhaps it would be better if they played a monday Day game! πŸ˜•


  60. 60 berigan2electricboogaloo September 3, 2012 at 7:18 pm

    Heh, ok, I missed the game…but, that’s ok. Medlen gave up exactly…zero earned runs over 9 innings…wow. Why are they not saying how many scoreless innings he tossed, on the ESPN site? Unearned runs don’t count, right? Orel’s streak, Maddux’s streaks, no unearned runs??? Something is fishy…speaking of fishy….all of the sudden, it was all about an inning’s limit on Medlen? That’s why he wasn’t starting all season long??? Right…sounds like they just didn’t want to admit they didn’t think Medlen would be this good…


  61. 61 Gil in Mechanicsville September 4, 2012 at 9:04 am

    If I were a pitcher and folks were comparing me to Greg Maddux, especially in Atlanta, I would have to be continually dosed with reality to keep my feet on the ground and my head out of the clouds.

    Ber, ESPN did make a big deal of of it after the run was given up….

    Pretty cheesy way to lose a chance at history but to be fair, some pretty spectacular plays had been made behind Meds in his past few starts. He brings such an energy to the game that everyone seems to up their play behind him.

    I keep looking for my prior comments about Medlen when he first came on the scene three years ago but I’m too lazy to search that long… Lets just say I saw him coming… well, almost…


  62. 62 Voice of Raisins September 4, 2012 at 9:30 am

    Greg Maddux’s keys to success:

    1) Throw strikes; don’t try to be too fine with the corners
    2) Locate the fastball with pinpoint accuracy
    3) Work quickly; control the pacing

    Kris Medlen’s keys to success:

    1) Throw strikes; don’t try to be too fine with the corners
    2) Locate the fastball with pinpoint accuracy
    3) Work quickly; control the pacing


  63. 63 Salty September 4, 2012 at 9:55 am

    Wherever they are, Meds makes all ewoks proud! πŸ˜†

    Gil, you also saw Hanson coming….and going. Just sayin’. Between you and the ‘Shriveled One’, you’d make a heckuva two-headed GM.


  64. 64 Gil in Mechanicsville September 4, 2012 at 3:02 pm

    Sadly, I also link JJ’s demise with his appearance in the 2010 (I think) All-star game. Just has not been the same since. If I had my druthers, they would not even play the darn game….

    I think the Braves could plug Buddy Carlyle into Hanson spot in the rotation and they would win (at least the wild card) going away.


  65. 65 Salty September 4, 2012 at 4:33 pm

    JJ’s lazy….it must be a Curacao thing. He needs a swift kick to get in shape and apply the gifts he’s throwing away. Injuries can be overcome…ask the Angry Ewok!


  66. 66 Gil in Mechanicsville September 4, 2012 at 5:20 pm

    Lazy? Perhaps, sometimes I think baseball players forget they are involved in a sport where agility and finesse, as well as just plain God given talent are the keys to success, not brute strength and the ability to club a batting practice fastball 500 feet.

    Dan Uggla is another perfect example of what I am talking about. He bulked up over the winter lifting dead weights. Results, really. really high pop ups…. He is not flexible enough to adjust to off speed pitches.

    Hitting is all about timing and balance and hitting the ball with the sweet spot of the bat. Sure, you can feast on 4A pitching but good pitchers of the likes of Haliday and Hammels and Josh Johnson have a field day against guys who are always trying to slug the ball. That and pulling the ball down the line like Andruw (I’m a dead pull hitter) Jones. Of course, to be fair, Andruw bulked up on cheese burgers but I digress.

    Tone up, not bulk up…. Why am I not a conditioning coach??? Oh yeah, too many milk shakes….


  67. 67 Gil in Mechanicsville September 5, 2012 at 8:06 am

    Okay, the Bad News Braves showed up again last night… Shake it off guys and get your head on straight for tonight’s game…


  68. 68 Gil in Mechanicsville September 6, 2012 at 7:38 am

    Alrighty now, that is a little bit better. Mike Minor has figure out that in order to win, he must not allow any runs whatsoever… Fredi G finally understands that sometimes you have to bring in your closer in the 8th inning when the game is on the line in order to be in a position to use him in the 9th. Two important lessons learned last night…

    Okay Ber, when you wake up and read this, remember there is a game at noon today….


  69. 69 Voice of Raisins September 6, 2012 at 7:50 am

    Noon? Glad for the reminder. I might actually get to take in some Braves baseball for the first time in a week… (busy, busy times…)


  70. 70 berigan2electricboogaloo September 6, 2012 at 12:27 pm

    just caught some of the game last night, and saw the highlights of the game on baseball tonight. Clearly, the offense is in a funk again, but the pitching is spectacular! Still not sure what exactly was switched with Minor. I still see pitches that seem very hittable, that don’t get hit. Hey, whatever, he’s fooling hitters with is more than smoke and mirrors, just cause I don’t get it, well, I’m not always the sharpest of tacks! πŸ˜‰
    Gil, I think you are on to something with Uggla. If nothing else, he should sign up for a yoga class(think McCann still does any yoga?)


  71. 71 Voice of Raisins September 6, 2012 at 1:13 pm

    … and as is par for the course, I just remembered that the game is on.

    As for Minor: location, location, location. It’s all about pitch location. He isn’t picking at corners anymore, falling behind and serving up gopher balls. He’s locating his pitches and getting ahead in counts. Ask Medlen how important that aspect is.


  72. 72 Voice of Raisins September 6, 2012 at 1:22 pm

    Maybe I shoulda left it tuned off… :/


  73. 73 Voice of Raisins September 6, 2012 at 1:22 pm



  74. 74 Voice of Raisins September 6, 2012 at 1:22 pm



  75. 75 Voice of Raisins September 6, 2012 at 3:08 pm

    That was simply amazing. What a pitching performance by Johnny Allstaff, particularly the starter and closer. And I have never seen any run scored like that before, much less the winning… er, only run. Don’t you know Chacin is tearing up the locker room about now… πŸ˜›


  76. 76 Salty September 6, 2012 at 3:48 pm

    What sucks for the Rockies is the starters can only go long enough to get a loss, but they can’t get a win. What’s up with that? ❓


  77. 77 Gil in Mechanicsville September 6, 2012 at 11:35 pm

    I think I would rather be the middle relief guy and not the starter in the Rockies pitching scheme. Perhaps it is a way to keep their young staff from building up the type of stats that can garner a big payday in arbitration…

    Anyway, what a weird way to win a game. I’ll take it though.

    So, I wonder how many intentional walks the Mets will issue to keep the Braves from scoring this weekend?


  78. 78 Gil in Mechanicsville September 7, 2012 at 9:54 am

    It has got to be tough to be a Cub fan right now, then again, how would they know the difference?

    Orioles making a run at the Yankees, who would have thunk it?

    It might be fun watching all the Fox sports dudes jumping out of windows if the Dodgers, Yankees and Red Sox all miss the playoffs.. and oh, what will ESPN have to talk about? Oh yeah, football… and skate boarding…


  79. 79 berigan2electricboogaloo September 7, 2012 at 11:50 am

    Salty, that’s a good point! they can’t keep this up, cuz they will use this in arbitration hearings, etc…guy only pitched 135 innings, was 3-8. Why should we pay him like a guy who won 10 games and pitched 185 innings?


  80. 80 Gil in Mechanicsville September 8, 2012 at 10:24 am

    Good morning all, pretty nice to see Uggla returning to form, well, maybe that is not quite right, it’s good to see him hitting the ball…. Yeah, that’s it…

    I thought Maholm pitched an interesting game, bent a lot but did not break. I guess I am still not accustom to seeing him pitch all that much.

    So, do the Braves bring up Simmons or are they content to let him collect $5 a day per diem in Lynchburg?

    Game is on national TV at 4PM today if it does not rain. Looks iffy right now.


  81. 81 berigan2electricboogaloo September 9, 2012 at 1:53 pm

    It was nice to finally see some offense yesterday! After the lengthy rain delay, Hinske actually hit a homer…perhaps he will finally come around…still haven’t changed the thought that Overbay should be the guy available to play if the playoffs, but you can tell Hinske is very popular as the dugout was very excited after the homer, and I don’t think it was because it was 11 to 3 then…
    Chippers last game in NYC, not starting. Joe said Chipper will beg to pinch hit. He brought out the liineup and was roundly cheered…first time and last time I will likely say this, but classy move Mets fans! πŸ˜‰


  82. 82 berigan2electricboogaloo September 10, 2012 at 3:38 pm

    Hello??? is this thing on??? testing, testing…
    Braves did win yesterday! Hanson still couldn’t make it 6 innings, but his curve and slider seemed to have more bite…


  83. 83 Gil in Mechanicsville September 11, 2012 at 1:16 pm

    Hi gang, Josie dragged me off to the bay Sunday so I missed a couple of games…. That and no internet at all. Of course since I can only get the main stream media news and that of CNN, I can understand how Obama can get re-elected…

    Okay, enough politics, now more baseball… DUH!!! ESPN only cares about football now. BOOOOOO!!!!

    So, who is pitching tonight (Tuesday)? Medlens turn or Maholn? Reading the recap, it appears the old base path bugaboo struck hard last night. Sometimes you can get too aggressive, or passive in Freddie Freeman’s case.


  84. 84 Salty September 11, 2012 at 1:46 pm

    Freddie’s too passive to be aggressive. Was caught napping.


  85. 85 Gil in Mechanicsville September 12, 2012 at 4:54 pm

    Okay, time to get with the program team…. No more losing…. It is not allowed in my universe.

    That said, the Phillies are charging. Time for the team to man up and just win.


  86. 86 Gil in Mechanicsville September 13, 2012 at 8:49 am

    Auuuuugggghhhhh, Freddie has got to be the dumbest manager in the league. Does he not have his head in the game? His starter is clearly tiring, his third baseman has clearly lost it… Still, he waits until the game is completely out of reach to make a move… AAAAAUUUUUUGGGGHHHH!!!!!!


  87. 87 Voice of Raisins September 13, 2012 at 10:53 am

    So, I go out of town for 3 days, and the Braves get swept in Milly? Last time I went out of town they went on a swoon. What is the deal? Can’t a guy take a break every now and then?


  88. 88 Salty September 13, 2012 at 3:55 pm

    Raisins….yes, you can take a break. It’s called ‘off-season’. I hope that clears things up! πŸ˜†


  89. 89 Voice of Raisins September 14, 2012 at 7:16 am

    Nice ewok. πŸ˜€


  90. 90 Gil in Mechanicsville September 14, 2012 at 7:05 pm

    Nothing like a little 3 game losing streak to quiet things down around here eh?


  91. 92 Carolina Lady September 14, 2012 at 9:16 pm

    Yeah, Raisins, here’s the local take on it – note that it has to pass a voter referendum. And they would build it in THE worst part of the entire county both security-wise and mosquito-wise. Those river marsh mosquitoes have been gearing up for this for centuries. Just ask anyone who dares to see the Sound & Light show at the battleship in the summer – where free cans of mosquito spray are handed out to visitors by the crate-load every night. The bugs are totally immune to it by now. These games, if played, will be done in record time. Players will probably have to have shots of some sort before the end of the season.


  92. 93 Gil in Mechanicsville September 15, 2012 at 10:13 am

    Those river marsh mosquitoes have been gearing up for this for centuries.

    Good one CL… πŸ™‚

    Okay gang, absolute gem pitched by Meds last night. Maybe The Mad Ewok in honor of Doggie…

    The offense still sucks both Kris refused to fold.


  93. 94 berigan2electricboogaloo September 15, 2012 at 1:33 pm

    Wow, and I thought he skeeters were bad down this way!
    Gil, yep, it sure does suck…but if they were to get on a roll, at say the end of the season….I do believe I was begging to have Med, er Ewok start sooner…yep, I totally knew he would be the best starter in baseball once he did start starting. πŸ˜‰
    Salty’s right V, no more time off til the season ends! πŸ™‚


  94. 95 Gil in Mechanicsville September 15, 2012 at 7:29 pm



  95. 96 Gil in Mechanicsville September 15, 2012 at 7:37 pm

    I’ll be honest, I did not give the Braves a snowball’s chance in Hades after the home team threw the ball around like a bunch of rookie league rejects.. Oh me of little faith…


  96. 97 Voice of Raisins September 16, 2012 at 8:09 am

    Lose 3 in Milly, then come home and take the first 2 from the team with the best record in baseball. Go figure…


  97. 98 Gil in Mechanicsville September 16, 2012 at 8:45 am

    Raisins, I blame the sweep in Miller Park on Fredi’s inept game management. I’m looking at tiring pitchers and thinking take em out, take em out… Well, he finally got around to it after the games were out of reach.

    You don’t need to let pitchers go deep into games when you have an expanded bullpen, you never under any circumstances bring in Batiusta to pitch….


  98. 99 Gil in Mechanicsville September 16, 2012 at 8:46 am

    Now, when are they going to let Ben Sheets pitch again?


  99. 100 Voice of Raisins September 16, 2012 at 4:23 pm

    Yes, Gil… Fredi has not exactly endeared himself to me, in case you have not picked up on that. But I have refrained lately from disparaging remarks in the spirit of unity and harmony. Let’s see how September plays out…


  100. 101 Gil in Mechanicsville September 16, 2012 at 6:18 pm

    Yes wrinkled one, your silence in the matter concerning FG has been noted. Kind of tough to whack a guy who has a decent record but one has to wonder if someone with real baseball acumen have really brought this team to fore.


  101. 102 Voice of Raisins September 16, 2012 at 6:33 pm

    I could not possibly agree more…


  102. 103 Voice of Raisins September 16, 2012 at 10:18 pm

    Mark it. The Braves failure to get Chipper home from 3B with NO outs will come back to haunt them. Good teams don’t suck so bad w/ RISP. πŸ™„


  103. 104 Voice of Raisins September 16, 2012 at 11:13 pm

    Then again… maybe not.


  104. 105 berigan2electricboogaloo September 17, 2012 at 8:20 am

    Remember me telling everyone after the Brew crew swept the Braves, that the Braves were going to mop up the floor with the Nats?? No??? Did that post get lost? Shoot, I totally said that!!!
    I know Tim Hudson is a warrior, a great pitcher, but I sure hope Freddi realizes Medlen has to start the 1 game playoff(Hoping that we can hold the lead we now have in the WC race)
    I love how the bullpen being dead tired last sept had nothing to do with anything, yet the bullpen,(well, not Chad Durbin) is much, much more rested and the bullpen has responded in kind. Sorta like they keep trying to have us believe Medlen was expected to be on an innings limit all along. ANYONE really believe that? If that was so, wouldn’t they have told us that before he turned into the best starter in the NL after the A.S. break???
    Oh well, in Freddi’s defense…he does seem to learn from his mistakes, at least the very big ones…
    Anyone have the sound on for the game last night? As the last few weeks of Chipper’s career wind down, now, finally, ESPN finally treats him like the HOF we all knew he was…better late than never…
    A sorta funny clip….if it was anyone else but him, I would feel sorry for the player…


  105. 106 Gil in Mechanicsville September 17, 2012 at 10:28 am

    Yes, it was very frustrating to see the Braves leave guys on 2nd and 3rd with no outs. It would not have been so bad if we had not seen it dozens of times before.

    Now having Uggla come up big was a different story.

    Last night was all about Gio going for his 20th win until it was not…. I don’t get how the Braves are so disrespected by the ESPN crew until they are forced to realize the Braves have the best pen in the majors, period… Getting to them can be a bit of a mine field sometimes however. The fact that Mike Minor has really come around has not hurt the Braves either.

    On a side note, Cory Gearing looks really good when he is not over used. A lot like Jonny Venters in that respect.

    Nice little win streak going for the Braves now, look for them to be flat as yesterday’s uncapped Coke tonight against the Marlins. Something about late games and travel that takes it out of you, that and it’s Monday…


  106. 107 Voice of Raisins September 17, 2012 at 3:50 pm

    Monday… 😦


  107. 108 Gil in Mechanicsville September 17, 2012 at 9:19 pm

    Like I said, I like Gerrin when he is not over used. Sigh… You have to wonder why Freddie develops amnesia like Bobby use to and forget there were other pitchers in the bullpen…


  108. 109 berigan2electricboogaloo September 17, 2012 at 11:16 pm

    Gil, a whole lotta Bobby in Freddi. I had forgotten Jeff Baker was on the club the other day when he came in…10 games between appearances 9-4 til 9-14. Good grief.
    Hinske is hitting .185 with 3 RBI’s since the all star break.
    Hudson was very average tonight, think he needs to skip a start? Gil, how about putting Sheets in for a spot start???


  109. 110 Gil in Mechanicsville September 18, 2012 at 10:11 am

    Berigan, I have been wondering why Fredi has not already done so. What’s the worse that could happen, give up 5 runs in 4 innings? To be honest, I think he is waiting to hear from Frank Wren on what to do next. That and lock up a wild card spot before unloading the bench. Sadly, the Braves best pitchers are their numbers 4 and 5….


  110. 111 Gil in Mechanicsville September 18, 2012 at 10:12 am

    At the least you would think he would try him in long relief.


  111. 112 Gil in Mechanicsville September 18, 2012 at 1:52 pm

    My only hope is that CB Buckner is not the home plate umpire when the Braves play their one game playoff. The dude is blind… in a bad way.

    My real hope is we don’t remember the names of any of the umpires because it will mean they were a non factor…


  112. 113 Salty September 18, 2012 at 5:55 pm

    “The dude is blind… in a bad way.”

    Uhm….is there a good way? ❓


  113. 114 Gil in Mechanicsville September 18, 2012 at 7:11 pm

    Well, there is a duck blind, blind luck, flying blind, blind taste test, double blind trials, … Buckner is blind in one eye, can’t see out the other blind…

    And Simmons is banged up again, the kid got into a fight with the ground last night… Better keep Janish around long term….


  114. 115 Salty September 18, 2012 at 11:13 pm

    Janich lost the same fight as Simmons. Bravos need self-defense instruction!


  115. 116 Voice of Raisins September 19, 2012 at 12:29 am



  116. 117 berigan2electricboogaloo September 19, 2012 at 5:38 am

    Remember when we were told Prado couldn’t play SS????

    I think it’s safe to say no one here is a fan of ex brave Yunel Escobar…well, he’s in hot water for some supposedly homophobic messages he had in his eye black…
    Of course, not one newspaper so far has the guts to say what it is that was written! Welcome to the Uber PC world we live in…
    And I don’t want to stick up for him really, but Ozzie Guillen said in another article that it is something Latinos say to each other all the time…whatever it is…
    Yunel loses 3 games, fined 83K, and has to take sensitivity classes. Of course if he called Romney worse than Hitler, there would be NO issue…


  117. 118 Voice of Raisins September 19, 2012 at 7:18 am

    Forcing someone to take a “sensitivity” class sounds somewhat Hitler-esque if you ask me…


  118. 119 Gil in Mechanicsville September 19, 2012 at 9:11 am

    Ber, it roughly translates into “You are a faggot” … If I were Yunel, I would have told them it was a spelling error… Was supposed to be an “M” not and “F”.

    Okay, now baseball, I rest my case on the use of Cory Gearrin for the third night in a row. Great comeback by the Braves in the ninth, wasted by using a kid one night too many. I would have counted myself lucky with getting away with him tossing one pitch out relieving Venters.

    No excuse in over using the kid when there are other options available

    I chalk this one up to to the manager…. .


  119. 120 Gil in Mechanicsville September 19, 2012 at 10:51 am

    Raisins, way back in the day when I was a union honcho, I had a guy who was a real butt head, bigot with a capital B… Anyway, he offended some of his fellow co-workers and as required, I had to represent him… Did not say I like that part of the job but anyway, this was before someone had the bright idea of offering sensitivity training. (Later everyone was required to attend but that is another tale) Anyway, the company decided to send him to Dale Carnigie to get his mind right, I thought to myself, “Great, now he will be a more confident and self assured bigot”… For years I tried to figure out how to get them to send me but I could not bring myself to offend other people, sigh, the dilemma of having to be a politician…

    As for Yunel, I expect the fine will have more of an effect than the training sessions… That said, I am not sure you can fix stupid. Just because you have free speech, it is not always wise to exercise it…


  120. 121 Gil in Mechanicsville September 19, 2012 at 9:27 pm

    Two visitors tonight, first a possum, now a raccoon, I feel like I am on the Beverly Hillbillies…

    Would make and interesting stew however.


  121. 122 Gil in Mechanicsville September 19, 2012 at 9:31 pm

    Not that I mind so much, it’s just that I think they are a little pushy when they come up on the front porch and stare thru the storm door glass…. Must be some of the 47%


  122. 123 Carolina Lady September 19, 2012 at 10:06 pm

    LOL, Gil. They know where the food is!!


  123. 124 Carolina Lady September 20, 2012 at 12:34 am

    Sensitivity “training” is simply an attempt at brain-washing. Hitleresque, indeed. It is a sop to the politically correct bunch and simply teaches someone what not to say in public. Doesn’t change a person’s MIND at all. Controlled speech, controlled public behavior, controlled workplaces, controlled employers = as much control over as much of a person’s life as possible. Are there things that shouldn’t be said out of common courtesy and decency? Yes, certainly, but you can’t force a person to think only a certain way or to have only certain (PC-approved) opinions. Remember when simple civility governed an individual’s behavior? Don’t know about y’all but I miss that.


  124. 125 Voice of Raisins September 20, 2012 at 8:21 am

    Amen, CL. Well stated. The truth can set you free, but mucking it up with political correctness is modern day shackles. The powers that be want perception to be truth. Why not? They can control the perception, thus they can control what is now accepted as “truth”. Nothing but political manipulation to herd the sheep. And a sheep is a dumb animal. That’s why I put my faith in the real Truth. I simply endure this side of eternity.


  125. 126 Gil in Mechanicsville September 20, 2012 at 10:48 am

    “The World According to Gil” with apologies to John Irving… I have no problem with avoiding words which can be hurtful to others, I do not think however that said people deserve to be shield from such speech when they in turn fail to use the same restraint towards me when I do not want to hear them use gutter language around me and my family and cite they have the right to free speech.

    I am very offended when the Lord’s name is used in vain and base and profain language is spewed in front of young and impressionable people as well as myself.

    Once upon a time, certain words were not used in “polite” company. That said, I learned the hard way that such words uttered too often had a tendency to slip out at some of the most inopportune times. Thus leading to the need to apologize but worse, allow people to see you for who you really are.

    I could write a book on what not to do or say based on my own personal faux pas.

    Now baseball…. Medlen is da man…

    I see a great triumphant ahead for the Braves in Medlen, Minor and Beachy. I suggest Boris shop Hansen and Jair hard because I don’t see them staying in Atlanta much longer.


  126. 127 Clarence Elliott September 21, 2012 at 10:36 am

    Hey– Atlanta is putting playoff tickets on sale already. Is anyone buying?


  127. 128 berigan2electricboogaloo September 21, 2012 at 11:50 am

    Clarence, don’t think I could afford one…am seriously considering going to a game so I can see Chipper in person one last time..no doubt a game that he will stay stuck to the pine! πŸ˜‰

    V, Gil, CL, agree with all that was said above…


  128. 129 berigan2electricboogaloo September 21, 2012 at 11:57 am

    And Gil, Medlen is indeed da man!!!
    Joe Simpson was talking about who should start the WC game..and acted like people would be split 50/50 between Medlen and Hudson…I don’t think so…could be wrong…but seems to me if you HAVE to win one game to play in a playoff series you would go with Medlen right now. Then Hudson for the first game of a 5 game series. If Hudson’s sinker doesn’t, and you are down 3-0 in the 3rd, then the game would feel over….


  129. 130 Voice of Raisins September 21, 2012 at 2:45 pm

    Hey Clarence!!!

    OK… I admit it. I am among the problem as far as ticket sales goes. I do not ever go to games anymore. I used to go to alot of games. I was at every home opener from about ’87 through about 2000. I have become a severe homebody and just do not like getting too far away from the rural charms of Jefferson anymore. Plus, I can get a Coke from my fridge alot cheaper and easier than I can get one from a vendor. And do we even need to talk about the other facilities? πŸ˜€


  130. 131 berigan2electricboogaloo September 21, 2012 at 3:22 pm

    Yeah, but this is different V, there won’t be a Chipper playing for the braves, ever again….


  131. 132 Carolina Lady September 21, 2012 at 9:29 pm

    Chipper gone. Those two words just don’t belong together.

    Hey, Clarence!! Glad to see that you found your way back!! Welcome again!!

    Wonder how many consecutive games Medlen could start??


  132. 134 berigan2electricboogaloo September 23, 2012 at 5:26 am

    CL, I like Medlen starting every game! πŸ˜‰
    Glad to see the bravos beat Philly…

    another site with a ton o baseball stories…


  133. 135 berigan2electricboogaloo September 23, 2012 at 5:28 am

    found the one just on the braves


  134. 136 Gil in Mechanicsville September 23, 2012 at 1:16 pm

    Hi gang, back to the real world again and internet access… definitely going to do something about that… Anyhoo, great game yesterday against the Phillies, at least from and Atlanta standpoint. I thought Minor looked very good. The kid has really matured this year as a pitcher. The triple was what it was, I thought Bourn mis-judged it bit but sometimes those balls are just tweeners.

    As for the bomb hit by Howard, it is why you want to face him with no one on base. He guessed right on a change up. That blast would have gone at least 450 feet if unimpeded.

    Chipper got his wish on the double that just missed going out. He said that if you hit a ball 400 feet, you should at least get a double out of it.

    So, the Braves magic number is three.


  135. 137 Gil in Mechanicsville September 24, 2012 at 10:44 am

    Nice game yesterday, still a bit frustrating in that the Braves failed to capitalize on scoring opportunities. That said, Cliff Lee is not exactly chopped liver. Perhaps other teams match up a little better against lefties than the Braves but still, he pitched a heck of a game, just that Huddy was very good yesterday. Makes one think that this year’s edition of the Bravos is in a much different place than the 2011 team. The bullpen is stronger, the starting pitching is better, the everyday line up is healthier.

    So, talk about mixed emotions, you have to root for whoever is playing the Nationals to give the Braves a chance to get into the driver’s seat for the playoffs. You just don’t want them to get too hot in the mean time.

    And then there is Tommy Hansen… boy, do you get the feeling that there is something really, really wrong with him physically that everyone is keeping mum about or just don’t know. Boris must be thinking to himself, “How did I get myself tied to two turkeys like Hansen and Jurrjins?”

    I would not be surprized to see either one of those guys signing a minor league contract with someone next spring just to get an opportunity to make someone’s club in 2013. At this point, I give Ben Sheets a better shot at being with the Braves in 2013 than either JJ or Tommy.

    Beachy likely will follow the same pattern as Medlen coming off Tommy John surgery next season and would not really be a factor for the first 2/3rds of the season.


  136. 138 berigan2electricboogaloo September 24, 2012 at 2:58 pm

    Yeah Gil, I know what you mean…I feel like a spoiled brat at times whining about the lack of offense, they did win the game! And Hudson…amazing. 16 wins, and he missed April…
    I would think they’d just shut down Hanson. Guess who has the most strikeouts? Yep… 4.46 ERA. Still 26. So, if they can’t trade him during the offseason, I bet he will still be given many chances to be a starter next year.


  137. 139 Gil in Mechanicsville September 24, 2012 at 6:18 pm

    Yes Ber, likely he will get a big raise and a chance to start. Who knows just exactly what Wren and company have in mind. Pretty sure JJ will be looking for work. I hope he gets himself straighten out. Just not against the Braves.

    Now, more baseball. The Nats crushed the Brew Crew 12-2 today. Mixed emotions folks. Mixed emotions… Going to be really tough for the Braves to catch them now but you never know. That said, I think I would rather give Ben Sheets another shot and let Hansen sit out a start or two….


  138. 140 Carolina Lady September 25, 2012 at 12:47 am

    Chipper Jones was 2-9 with an RBI double in his final series at Philadelphia. His final career numbers against the Phillies:
    245 games, .331 avg. 49 HR, 152 RBI, 1.036 OPS.

    At Citizens Bank Park: 59 games, .300 avg. 11 HR, 32 RBI, .943 OPS.


  139. 141 berigan2electricboogaloo September 25, 2012 at 5:42 am

    Gil, forgot about the salary hike…they might still DFA him yet, if they can’t trade him…
    CL, not bad numbers, eh? πŸ˜‰ Amazing to me is his numbers were better at the bigger park…though he was in his prime then…


  140. 142 Voice of Raisins September 25, 2012 at 8:08 am

    They’ll DFA Jurjjens for sure, but not Hanson… not yet. Not with Beachy still on the mend. Plus, Hanson still has some trade value because he’s young and has done it. Some coach will believe that he’s the one to correct Hanson’s mechanics and get back the 7-8 mph Tommy has lost over the last couple of years. He’ll be worth a middle reliever or 2nd tier prospect at least.

    IMO they’ll go to Spring Training with him regardless. They have to see where Julio Teheran is and if he’s ready to step in. The same could be said about Delgado. And do they pick up Huddy’s option? I think it’s a no-brainer, but I’m not trying to save a mil here and there, either.

    Too many questions regarding next year’s rotation to cut ties with both Jurjjens and Hanson. But JJ’s a goner for sure.


  141. 143 Gil in Mechanicsville September 25, 2012 at 9:14 am

    Morning folks, yes, the fact that Beachy will not be available for the full year does play a part. As for the youngsters, well, we have seen the growing pains that can occur with a talented youngster while they actually learn their craft.

    Hudson’s cost is a real bargain when you look at the current prices for number ones and two for a staff.

    I still hope the Braves will give Ben Sheets another shot. Conditioning from the start of spring training should make a huge difference in Big Ben’s durability.

    Hansen knows he is pitching like dog crap right now but does not appear to be able to make the adjustments required to change that fact. JJ is young too but it does not seem to make a lot of difference to the Braves organization.

    No one will make a trade for a player they feel they can pick up for pennies on the dollar anyway.

    The one injury I have yet to see a pitcher come back from is the dreaded torn labrum. Always associated with loss of control and velocity. We have seen many pitcher come back from Tommy John but never anyone from a torn labrum. Just think, John Smoltz…


  142. 145 Voice of Raisins September 25, 2012 at 10:23 am

    I read an article this morning stating that the Royals will be looking for starting pitching help.

    [intentional pause]

    Do I really need to fill in the blanks here? πŸ˜€


  143. 146 Voice of Raisins September 25, 2012 at 10:28 am

    Nice link, Gil… and I completely agree with his assessment of Medlen.


  144. 147 Voice of Raisins September 25, 2012 at 10:28 am

    … and his Wild Card prediction.


  145. 148 Voice of Raisins September 25, 2012 at 10:32 am

    As for Smoltz stating that he would hold Medlen and Hudson for the NLDS and start neither in the Wild Card Play-in game, I disagree.

    Starting Medlen in the WC game lines him up for either a needed game late in the NLDS, or Game 1 of the NLCS. I think it bodes well for the Braves to stay the course as is. If their bats can avoid taking Ambien again, I think they have as much potential as anyone going in. Gotta avoid the slumps… need Bourne to be re-Bourne.


  146. 149 Gil in Mechanicsville September 25, 2012 at 12:14 pm

    I look for Fredi to rest both Bourne and Prado once the Braves have accomplished all they can this season prior to the playoffs. The two days Bourne had as a results of his off day yesterday and the jammed thumb on Sunday likely will help also. I know Chipper wants to play all of the remaining home games so I do not expect to see him against the Pirates except perhaps a pinch hit appearance or maybe just one start.

    I know the Braves are trying to get Hansen going again but I really don’t see it happening. The kid really does not have it right now. Tired arm/shoulder whatever, he is struggling. I would leave him off the roster for the first series at least. So many travel and off days in the playoffs reduce the need for more than 3 real starters and the fourth would have to be Malhon right now.

    I don’t know what the deal is with Sheets and no one is really saying right now.


  147. 150 Gil in Mechanicsville September 25, 2012 at 12:29 pm

    I also expect to see Overbay get a start or two at first and J-Hey get a couple of more days off as well.

    That said, the series against Pittsburg could look a lot like a B squad game. Depends on who they think could use at-bats.

    Let’s see, line up could look like this

    Overbay/Hinske at 1st
    Pasternicky 2nd
    Francisco at 3rd
    Simmons SS (needs the at-bats)
    Baker LF
    Johnson CF
    Constanza RF
    Boscan C
    Teheran or Sheets SP

    Rest of the team sleeping on cots in the club house except for Chipper who needs a sleep comfort bed flown in on the team plane for each stop so he will be ready for the playoffs.

    Of course the Braves might get fined for not playing enough major leaguers ….


  148. 151 Voice of Raisins September 25, 2012 at 1:04 pm

    That sounds like a plan, Gil.

    As for Sheets, usually when someone kind of quietly disappears after suddenly struggling, there is often an untold injury involved. It could well be that as a courtesy to FA-to-be Sheets, the Braves are just quietly playing out the string.


  149. 152 Carolina Lady September 25, 2012 at 2:03 pm

    I enjoyed reading this – thanks for the link, Gil!

    “4. Kris Medlen.

    Baseball’s hottest pitcher will start twice this week — Tuesday against the Marlins and Sunday against the Mets, which conveniently puts him on track to start the wild-card game. In 10 starts since joining the rotation on July 31, Medlen is 8-0 with a 0.76 ERA and just seven runs allowed. The Braves have won all 10 of those starts and 21 straight games he’s started going back to 2010, the third-longest such streak in the live-ball era (the Yankees and Giants each won 22 in a row behind Whitey Ford and Carl Hubbell, respectively).

    Prediction: The Braves make it 23 in a row behind Medlen. Does that turn Medlen (9-1, 1.51 ERA, 125 innings on the season) into a viable Cy Young candidate? I still think he ranks behind top contenders such as R.A. Dickey, Gio Gonzalez and Johnny Cueto, and teammate Craig Kimbrel will also have supporters, but Medlen will certainly receive some deserved down-the-ballot recognition. Oh … he’ll then win the wild-card game as well.”


  150. 154 Voice of Raisins September 26, 2012 at 7:24 am

    I hate that I missed it…

    This has been the busiest month of my entire life. I have been involved with 3 different music projects, and playing or rehearsing seemingly 5 nights out of 7 for a long time. It slows down dramatically after this weekend. Maybe I can watch more than an inning at a time once again.

    Congrats Bravos! Making the Wild Card is good. But hey… only 4 games behind the Nats with 8 to play. Stranger things have happened, right?


  151. 155 Gil in Mechanicsville September 26, 2012 at 10:18 am

    It was glorious folks, never have I been so happy with 2nd place…. Thing is, I’m thinking the Gnats are feeling the pressure and the Phillies are playing for their lives.

    Last night only bought them a ticket to the dance, now they need to work on upgrades and a back stage pass….

    Wrinkled one, congratulations on all your gigs, it takes a lot of time and hard work to become an overnight success doesn’t it? That and you still have your day job….

    Now more baseball…. Medlen looked really sharp except for two pitches and danged if he didn’t get ambushed for them. The thing about rookies is they don’t know any better…. Kid did not know he was not supposed to be able to hit dingers off the hottest pitcher in baseball.

    Yeah, you get the feeling that Sheets must have some other issues going on. I guess we will find out when the season is over.


  152. 156 berigan2electricboogaloo September 27, 2012 at 6:49 am

    V, you may be on to something with Sheets, nothing else really makes sense.
    Gil, I was at trivia, then in the car…down 3-2 in the 9th, and I had to call an old friend, who had called me the night before, and didn’t have much time before she(she’s near 70) would head to bed…so, hey , down 3-2, not likely there would be a comeback, right??? well, turned the radio down, talked, got home, put the tv on, and saw champagne was flowing! Wha????
    Even though I missed the exact moment, it was very cool to watch the highlights!!! πŸ™‚
    I had forgotten all about FF being the guy who hit into the DP that ended last season…him crouching holding his head….what a great feeling hitting the game winning homer must have been! πŸ™‚
    Chipper got so much beer and Champagne dumped on him, I’m sure he must have been too high to drive! πŸ˜‰
    It was so funny how he was trying to praise the team, and they about froze him with so much bubbly at one time…I was shivering after awhile!
    I was so confuzzled when they kept saying Chippers first Post season appearance since 2005….huh?? Braves went to the playoffs in Bobby’s last year! just now figured it out, he was injured…


  153. 158 Voice of Raisins September 28, 2012 at 9:44 am

    Watching Tommy Hanson get 2 quick outs, on good pitches, then leave a pitch up for a single, then walk a guy, then give up an RBI on a solid single is just stinking maddening. I’m beginning to think it’s less physical than it is mental. Does the guy know how to pitch? Not so sure…


  154. 159 Gil in Mechanicsville September 28, 2012 at 10:39 am

    Raisins, I was thinking the same thing last night, he will get two quick strikes and then starts to get cute. Then he cannot find the strike zone. He looks like Mike Minor before he got his head straight. Perhaps he does not think he has enough oomph to his pitches to blow away a batter or perhaps not enough movement to prevent good contact but he slows the game down so much that it makes it painful to watch. Almost a human rain delay…

    It is good to see Uggla getting his confidence back and coming through in some big spots. You don’t always have t hit a homer to drive in three runs. That two run single he hit last night was a thing of beauty.

    Looks like the Nats are not going to roll over for us. Two pretty big wins against the Phillies this week.

    Still, I like the way the Braves are playing right now. It is not like they are limping into the post season as we have seen them do so many times in the past.


  155. 160 Voice of Raisins September 28, 2012 at 11:30 am

    Gil, that is exactly what it appears to be with Hanson. He is not confident enough in his stuff to throw strikes. He gets ahead, then tries to paint the edges. He needs to have a session with Minor and Medlen and let them explain to him the merits of throwing strikes. Then again, his stuff isn’t that great anymore, so maybe the point is moot…


  156. 161 Voice of Raisins September 28, 2012 at 11:40 am

    Then again, it matters very little now. He’ll make one more start in 2012 in a meaningless game against the sad sack Pirates, who will once again finish with a losing season.

    And no way he’s on my post-season roster. Would you waste a playoff roster spot with your 5th best starter? (6th if you count Sheets; maybe 7th if you count Delgado…)

    Not me. I have my 4 starters in Medlen, Hudson, Minor and Maholm.


  157. 162 Gil in Mechanicsville September 28, 2012 at 3:09 pm

    Time for a new lead methinks. Looks like the Braves will be safe at home standing up. Even enough time to go back and touch the plate just to make sure.

    I think the Nats will not let Braves catch them, just too much ground to make up on a pretty stout team. What’s the magic number? 2?

    It should be interesting to watch the Cards try to make a statement against the Nats and vice versa. Now, the real key to me for beating the Nats is get into their bullpen early. The Braves got rid of a lot of ghost with their sweep of the Nats at home a couple of weeks ago.

    Nice to see meaningful baseball in the last week of the season.


  158. 163 Carolina Lady September 29, 2012 at 9:59 pm

    Highlights of Chipper’s ceremony if you haven’t seen any of it.

    It took a while to figure out why Chipper looked so GOOD, so much younger – then I finally realized that he had a great haircut and had cut off that stupid, straggly looking beard-thing!



  159. 164 Gil in Mechanicsville September 30, 2012 at 10:52 am

    Who says personal grooming isn’t important? Wish I could clean up that nicely with just a shave and a haircut…

    Great game last night from Mike Minor. One thing you no longer hear is how the Braves wasted a first round pick on Magic Mike. The kid has become very impressive.

    Yes, we can only dream on retaining the services of a player of David Wright’s caliber. More likely the Braves will try to find a heavy hitter they can plug into left field. After all, that is where most weak armed and slow footed power hitters end up in the National League.

    So many things can happen during the off season, Best make the most of the opportunities you are presented with. Braves look like a team that can make a pretty deep run into the post season this fall. So many years we have seen them kind of limp home, This year it is more like Secretariat charging down the home stretch in the Belmont.

    One last thing, anyone else notice that Kimbrel ricochet of a 98 mph fastball off David Wright’s cup and into the home plate umpire’s neck. “Two with one blow” My advice it to never dig in when a flame thrower is on the mound. Only thing Craige didn’t hit last night was the bull…. Sure rang Wright’s bell however… CLANG!!!!


  160. 165 Voice of Raisins October 1, 2012 at 9:36 am

    Dadgum… heading into Pittsburgh for the final 3 against a rudderless, woebegone team in the PIrates, who are finishing with a flail after coming out of the gate strong. This is a totally sweepable series. And only 3 back of the Nats and still mathematically in the division race. Meanwhile, the Nats have 3 IN Philly against one of the better teams since the ASB.

    Gotta say, it’s possible. Likely? Uh, no. But definitely possible. John Lannan vs. Kyle Kendrick today… gotta like Kendrick. Edwin Jackson vs Cliff Lee on Wednesday… Lee looks good. But Tuesday? The Nats are tossing Cy Young candidate Gio Gonzalez vs. the Phillies TBA. Now, I don’t know alot about this TBA guy, he may be a minor leaguer, but I gotta say, the odds probably favor Gio. Glad it’s on Tuesday so that we can rest Huddy on Wednesday.

    Just sayin’…


  161. 166 Gil in Mechanicsville October 1, 2012 at 9:58 am

    The Braves drive to the division is a lot like Europe’s chances for a comeback yesterday after being down 10-6 on Saturday. As long as you are alive, you have hope. Like our little friend Kris Medlin said, “You never know what winning is all about until you experience losing”. Very profound words from a dude from the left coast…

    There is no love lost between the Phillies and the Nats and I expect there will be even less after the upcoming series. The ‘fightens have had a very disappointing year and would like nothing better than to knock the upstarts down a peg or two.

    One thing for sure, neither have much bullpen depth to go with their starters. I can remember the Braves having that same Achilles heel a season or two ago.

    The Phillies knocked the Braves out of the playoffs last season, don’t be surprise to see the same happen, although to a lesser degree, with the Nationals.

    Now the Braves… Time to put the boot heel on the throat of the Pirates and sweep. Worry about Friday or even Thusday when the happen. There is no room for error. That means playing Prado at third and whoever in left for a couple of days. Let the old man rest a couple of days, we’ll survive it. If the Braves are out of it, then it means Juan can get two starts at third and Hinske can play left. Let Prado have a day off on Wednesday.

    I sure would like to see Ben Sheets go an inning or two but it may well come down to Wednesday. Come to think of it, it may come down to Tommy Hanson on Tuesday and to be truthful, that is really scary.


  162. 167 Voice of Raisins October 1, 2012 at 10:37 am

    Hinske can play left

    It will suit me just fine if he plays “left out”…


  163. 168 Voice of Raisins October 1, 2012 at 12:38 pm

    I wouldn’t mind seeing Pastornicky get a few innings in LF in a meaningless game just to see how he would fare. We’ll need a good utility guy once Martin settles into the IF full time.


  164. 169 Gil in Mechanicsville October 1, 2012 at 3:34 pm

    I think the Pastor would be a good option for the post season roster. Ski has finally jumped the shark if you ask me. Sad when a guy just finally becomes useless. Not like he couldn’t run into a pitch once in a while but he has been used so little that to be honest, they may as well let the pitcher he is pinch hitting for have the at-bat. Same results.


  165. 170 Voice of Raisins October 1, 2012 at 4:40 pm

    Well, for pure right handed power off the bench, I’d just take Overbey over Hinske anyway. But if I need a hit, give me Pastor. If the kid can play a competent LF (and why couldn’t he? Remember Garret Anderson? ’nuff said…) then he makes the most sense. Hinske is too one dimensional, and that dimension has faded rapidly.


  166. 171 Voice of Raisins October 1, 2012 at 4:43 pm

    Doh! Of course, Hinske and Overbey are LH. I know that. And Pastor is righty. I mixed my arguments, and looked silly in the process. Let me clarify:

    Overbey over HInske for LH bop off the bench. Pastor over… well, there isn’t another, for RH bat and utility. Really, my argument was for Pastor in LF instead of Hinske, regardless of matchup. My 9-year-old daughter has a better chance of a hit against a RHP than does Hinske right now…


  167. 173 Carolina Lady October 1, 2012 at 11:47 pm

    Divorce and Retirement: Two Emotional Endings for Chipper Jones

    On behalf of The Siemon Law Firm posted in divorce on Sunday, September 2, 2012

    Chipper Jones has not only been a star player for the Braves for nearly two decades. He has established himself as one of the best switch-hitters to ever play Major League Baseball. In this, his final season, the tributes have come pouring in from all over the country.

    Jones’s family is not traveling with him, however, because he and his wife are going through an Atlanta divorce. The couple has three sons, ages 12, 8 and 7.

    It is the second divorce for Chipper Jones. He also has a child, now 15, from his first marriage.

    A celebrity divorce, in Atlanta or anywhere else, often contains issues and experiences that are common to other types of divorces. One of those experiences is the feeling of making a transition that is difficult but necessary. A new life is beckoning, yet the ending of the old one can be challenging.

    Chipper Jones openly acknowledges this. But he has resolved to be more involved in his children’s lives going forward.

    That involvement could include bringing them to Braves’ games next year. Jones and the team have not to clarify what his role will be, but it seems likely he will remain with the Braves organization in some capacity.

    To be sure, for someone who thrived so much on game competition, ending a career is bittersweet – even though injuries have increasingly turned playing into an exercise in pain management.

    So Chipper Jones is simultaneously experiencing two emotional experiences: retirement and divorce. On the field, the climax is less than a month away. The final game of his career is scheduled to come against the New York Mets on September 30. Fittingly, it will be in Atlanta.

    Source: “Grateful Chipper soaking it all in as Farewell Tour heads for home,” CBS Sports, Scott Miller, 8-29-12


  168. 174 berigan2electricboogaloo October 2, 2012 at 1:17 am

    Man, even lefties the braves traded, mop up the floor with the braves…sigh…
    I get awfully confused with who can, and who cannot play in the playoffs…I should dig into the rules, somewheres…I think it’s also different for pitchers vs. position players. I’ve seen pitchers come up after Sept (e.g.K-Rod with the Angels) and pitch in the playoffs(Sparkie Lyle couldn’t for the Phillies in 1980, again not sure why) but Overbay wasn’t on the roster til Sept 1st, and that’s why I was griping about Hinske being on the roster, when clearly Overbay is a more dangerous hitter…I do think though that he is really a favorite of the other players, a team leader…just a thought…


  169. 175 Voice of Raisins October 2, 2012 at 7:30 am

    Well wasn’t last night just a kick in the pants?


  170. 176 Voice of Raisins October 2, 2012 at 8:59 am

    In reality, the chances of the Nats getting swept were far narrower than the Braves sweeping the pirates, and the chances of both occurring were thinner than Presbo’s constant excuses. The way I see it, the Braves can now make the proper preparations for the WC game on Friday.

    Now there is another interesting development… the Dodgers are making a serious run at the Cards. Both teams are putting all their energy toward making that last playoff spot. That’s a good thing. It can also make for a team on a serious high roll coming into Atlanta.

    Best case scenario… the Dodgers tie the Cards for the last playoff spot on the last day of the regular season; the Cards have to fly from St. Louis to LA for the tie-breaker game on Thursday; the Cards win and have to turn around and fly cross country to Atlanta for the play-in, er, Wild Card game on Friday. That’s 2 long flights and 3 games in about 36 hours. Whew! 😯


  171. 177 Gil in Mechanicsville October 2, 2012 at 10:01 am

    Well, it was fun while it lasted. The Phils upheld their end of the bargain, Braves were just a couple of feet short. That and FF forgetting who was in trouble last night and giving a young kid new life by rolling over the top of a first pitch after Locke walked two batter to load the bases. I told the wife, “watch Freeman swing at the the first pitch and ground out”… I hate being right sometimes.

    Oh well, time to get ready for Friday as mentioned above.

    Yes CL, divorce and retirement, two very emotional events that have to make it difficult to function. Stress, stress, stress…. Chipper may not have gotten a hair cut, it may have simply fell out.

    Still feel pretty good about the Braves chances, at least they have the potential to play the first three playoff games at home.


  172. 178 Voice of Raisins October 2, 2012 at 4:23 pm

    I think I could handle the stress of retirement with several mil in the bank…


  173. 179 berigan2electricboogaloo October 2, 2012 at 5:37 pm

    Speaking of retirement, Ben Sheets is going to retire too. 😦


  174. 180 Voice of Raisins October 2, 2012 at 9:11 pm

    In my opinion, Ben Sheets was the inspiration behind the Braves’ 2nd half surge. His 4 wins right out of the box were the perfect focal point for a team that seemed to lack a singular vision. I admire him for his determination, as well as for his humanity. I think he embodies the spirit of a “major leaguer”. Thanks, Big Ben, for your love of the game itself.


  175. 181 Voice of Raisins October 3, 2012 at 8:37 am

    Big Ben on his retirement: β€œI honestly believe I could rehab this offseason and come back and last. But there comes a time when you’ve just got to go home, man…. I’m ready to be a dad. I got to do that for a couple of years and I really liked it. I mean, I’ve been here three months, playing on a great team with great guys, and doing something special this year. It’s still hard being away from [his kids].”

    Even if he’s only been here for 5 months, he’s one of my favorite Braves. I really admire this man…


  176. 182 Gil in Mechanicsville October 3, 2012 at 10:20 am

    It is nice to be able to be with your kids while they are still young. I wish I had done more of it instead of working two jobs and double shifts. I had hoped Ben would be back next season with renewed vigor but it is not to be He was truly magical until the shoulder betrayed him. I hope he pitches two scoreless tonight.


  177. 183 Voice of Raisins October 3, 2012 at 12:43 pm

    Game on!!!


  178. 184 Voice of Raisins October 3, 2012 at 2:12 pm

    So Chipper strides to the plate in the 6th for what will be his last official regular season at bat, and turns on a fastball by A.J. Burnett for a clean single to RF. In all fairness, the “fastball” looked like the batting practice variety to me. IMO, it was a nice gesture by Burnett to give the ol’ Battleaxe a nice hittable pitch as a show of respect.

    And as I type this, Burnett fields a little chopper to the mound, turns toward 3B with an easy shot to throw out Chipper, but opts for 1B instead. Couldn’t get the ball out of his glove cleanly? Nobody covering? Not sure… maybe another sign of respect. Wouldn’t surprise me.


  179. 185 Voice of Raisins October 3, 2012 at 2:17 pm

    J.C. Boscan drives in Chipper from 3B, and it looked like Chipper tossed his batting gloves into the stands as he was heading into the dugout.

    eBay-bound perhaps? Wait 5 years for his 1st ballot HOF induction, and those things will bring a fortune…


  180. 186 Voice of Raisins October 3, 2012 at 3:18 pm

    Nice last broadcast for Joe, Chip and Tom. I always miss these guys when we have to listen to the “national” guys. Much appreciation to the regional Fox/Peachtree TV crew. Nobody does it better.


  181. 187 Gil in Mechanicsville October 3, 2012 at 5:50 pm

    Came home to discover I had missed the last regular season game… bummer… I had really wanted to see Big Ben pitch his final. The little blubs that only show the last pitch don’t really show me anything.

    So, my lead titled “For whom the bell tolls, it tolls for Ben Sheets” is a moot point.

    My wife bought me a copy of Killing Lincoln. Good read so far. Not exactly like reading Michner but pretty good for a history book…


  182. 189 Voice of Raisins October 3, 2012 at 9:15 pm

    Thanks, CL, for posting that. I saw it this afternoon, but loved seeing it again. Just so very cool. Baseball is great, but real life is greater… can’t write that kind of story.


  183. 190 Carolina Lady October 4, 2012 at 1:51 am

    You sure can’t, Raisins! Great story for both Ben and Chipper. I salute Ben for pitching that inning! Chipper: “He blew it all out on one inning.” Reminds me of the last inning that closer Billy ——- (WHAT is his last name?? Brain isn’t talking to me tonight, apparently.) threw. It was a beauty to watch. Though, I don’t think we realized that that would be his last inning when we saw it. He went out ‘proud’, as we would say around here.


  184. 191 berigan2electricboogaloo October 4, 2012 at 9:29 am

    That was a great game yesterday! πŸ™‚ Sure takes the taste of losing 2 games to the Pirates out of your mouth…one thing, and I feel like a nit picker here….I was thinking, wow, poor guy, arms just not able to do what he wants it to anymore, but with no fears of pitching again, he didn’t have to worry, and let it all hang out, hence the 95.
    Then I hear after the game from the reporter(Hart?) that his arm was fine, but clearly he wasn’t in the braves plans if he didn’t pitch til Oct 3rd. Then we hear that on the taped interview, just in passing… I REALLY hope he didn’t retire over miscommunication….”they” may have been thinking, well, he can shut it down this year, and he can try to earn a shot next spring. But, tell a guy, you know????
    What I saw, granted, it was the guys last inning, but he hadn’t pitched in any games in over a month…he could have been a nice weapon out of the bullpen, if not the 5 game series(IF we get that far) but for the 7 game series having a righty hit 94-95 and with his curve…if nothing else, he’d be better than Hanson, who I sure hope doesn’t keep someone better from getting into the playoffs…
    I kinda wish I hadn’t heard that story….I was thinking of writing a lead praising FF, and between Sheets , then Delgado and Tehran pitching, none of whom had pitched since the end of August(Hey, lets blow out one of the studs arms in a meaningless game, with them trying to impress FF!)…just, I don’t know…did Bobby Valentine take over for FF?
    Anyway, Sheets, no matter what happened, handled it with a ton of class, and it really was touching to see both he and Chipper getting so much love from the fans and the team…


  185. 192 berigan2electricboogaloo October 4, 2012 at 9:34 am

    Billy Wagner CL!
    Another guy that went out on his own terms(if I had been lucky enough to play the game, I would keep going, no matter how many arm, back, ankle surgeries it took! I would embarrass people for not knowing when to leave πŸ˜‰ )


  186. 193 Gil in Mechanicsville October 4, 2012 at 11:04 am

    Great opines guys (and gal) .. Yes, I had hopes that Ben would be in the Braves plans next season, There are ways to allow for his kids to be part of his life even though he is in the big leagues. I see Prince Fielder’s kids with him in batting practice all the time. Heck, even us pour smucks who had to actually put in at least 8 hours away from home each day found a way to make it work.

    Someone of Sheets’ statue should have been able to go to the GM and ask what the Braves’ long term plans were. Oh well, I guess Ben is able to do what he really wants in life and I am not going to blame him for that.


  187. 194 Gil in Mechanicsville October 4, 2012 at 11:07 am

    CL, even you should be able to watch tonight’s game (5 PM) on TBS… drive to the local sports bar or something if you do’tn still have cable…


  188. 195 Carolina Lady October 4, 2012 at 2:15 pm

    Is it tonight, Gil, or Friday night?

    Just visualize me sitting at a bar watching a ballgame……. :-))))))) (I would almost do it just to prove I could! :-D) “Bartender, could I have another Diet Coke, please?”


  189. 197 Carolina Lady October 4, 2012 at 2:18 pm

    FF, Ber? Fred Flintstone? There must have been a management change I’m not aware of.


  190. 198 Gil in Mechanicsville October 4, 2012 at 4:17 pm

    Thanks Bro, I knew the game was Friday, I just thought that today was Friday… Being retired is tough when it comes to remembering which day is which.

    CL, trust me, they will be perfectly happy with you just showing up and ordering a diet coke, they know you will eventually break down and order some fries too… πŸ™‚

    Sports bars around here are a lot more sports and a lot less bars… Will charge about $6.50 for a burger but I digress…. they are usually pretty good burgers…


  191. 199 Carolina Lady October 4, 2012 at 5:48 pm

    Thanks, Clarence!

    I understand, Gil. I lose track of time and can’t figure out what happened. It goes too fast. πŸ˜€


  192. 200 berigan2electricboogaloo October 5, 2012 at 4:46 am

    CL, FF is Freddi Gonzalez, of course! Duh…,who doesn’t know that? πŸ˜‰ Man, I must be getting old…should have just typed Freddi…
    Ross will start over McCann, and I have to say, after reading FREDDI’S reasons why, it really does make sense….


  193. 201 Voice of Raisins October 5, 2012 at 9:58 am

    Looks like a perfect day in “The A” for baseball. πŸ˜€

    Go Braves!


  194. 202 Voice of Raisins October 5, 2012 at 9:59 am

    I got out of bed shortly before 8am this morning (Fall Break for my family this week) and immediately put on my Braves jersey, Braves hat, and even a pair of navy/white shorts. I cannot wait!!!!


  195. 203 Voice of Raisins October 5, 2012 at 10:01 am

    To clarify, though… I have on my “casual” Braves cap. The “game” cap will go on about 4:30pm or so…


  196. 204 Gil in Mechanicsville October 5, 2012 at 10:20 am

    I’m pretty pumped as well as a bit nervous concerning today’s game. Of course like the old adage says, if you want to be the best, you have to be the best. No easy paths for anyone this year. .


  197. 205 berigan2electricboogaloo October 5, 2012 at 4:09 pm

    V, I love that you have a casual and a game cap! πŸ™‚
    Yeah, all negativity is out of my system now, really for the game! Now, what channel is it on, anyway? ESPN??? Hope AJC sez…


  198. 206 Gil in Mechanicsville October 5, 2012 at 4:19 pm

    TBS Ber


  199. 207 berigan2electricboogaloo October 5, 2012 at 4:26 pm

    I still couldn’t find it on AJC, finally remembered a dim thought that Clarence put up a link a few days ago, thanks Clarence! πŸ™‚
    then I went looking for TBS, as it’s not a station I watch except during the playoffs… 247 on direct tv in case anyone doesn’t know…man…no doubt they will put Joe Simpson on the Baltimore/Rangers game tonight…


  200. 208 Carolina Lady October 5, 2012 at 4:31 pm

    :29 minutes and counting! :-)))


  201. 211 berigan2electricboogaloo October 5, 2012 at 6:13 pm

    The baseball gods could not be so cruel to have Chipper cost the braves, and himself going further in the playoffs, could they? πŸ˜₯


  202. 212 Carolina Lady October 5, 2012 at 7:13 pm

    *sigh* Braves are falling apart. Again.


  203. 213 berigan2electricboogaloo October 5, 2012 at 8:11 pm

    Don’t care was Joe Simpson has to say, that was the worst call I’ve seen in the playoffs…I’d have been throwing stuff on the field too….


  204. 215 berigan2electricboogaloo October 5, 2012 at 8:42 pm

    Only the ONLY good thing about that game is Chipper didn’t strike out to end the game…don’t think I could have stood that….
    I’ll no doubt say more, as will the rest of you, but right off the top of my head…Prado, JHey, can’t catch up to even mediocre heat, and at 40, with a really heavy bat, Chipper still can….


  205. 216 Gil in Mechanicsville October 5, 2012 at 9:16 pm

    I agree, I would have been throwing stuff too.. I have been telling folks, the one thing I hoped about this game is the umps would be a non issue, I don’t think they can help themselves. They think the game has to be about them… Of course, the Braves did not help themselves by doing their best Brooks Conrad imitation. Oh well, I can now go fishing, season is over for me…


  206. 217 Gil in Mechanicsville October 5, 2012 at 9:18 pm

    And never let it be said that Atlanta fans don’t have passion… I am proud of them actually.


  207. 218 Gil in Mechanicsville October 5, 2012 at 9:19 pm

    Too bad that wimp they have as a manger didn’t at least get himself thrown out of the game…. I guess he did not learn enough from Bobby


  208. 219 Carolina Lady October 5, 2012 at 10:59 pm

    Bobby would have been the first one throwing things. Even if he had to go back to the dugout to get ’em. Too bad the “officials” don’t have the guts to own up to a mistake. Makes them look bad beyond redemption. Joe said it: “This will always be known of the ‘Fly Rule’ game.”

    I think when the team saw Chipper make that awful throwing error, they fell apart. Freddi, ya got ya hands full now. Ya don’t have Chipper to lean on anymore.

    He just doesn’t deserve to go out like that.


  209. 220 Carolina Lady October 5, 2012 at 11:01 pm

    The thought just occurred to me – maybe Bobby was the first one throwing things. He had a front row seat, that’s for sure.


  210. 221 berigan2electricboogaloo October 5, 2012 at 11:27 pm

    CL, thanks for the laugh! πŸ˜† I can so see Bobby doing that!
    Actually, Freddi did look as PO’ed as I have seen, which isn’t saying a whole lot, but he was getting in the face of the Umps, and it seemed like one Ump was physically trying to keep him from the others and I thought at the time doing it to say, hey, we will figure this out…I don’t see why the umps can’t overrule a call like that…IF there is no rule for them to do that, they need to create one…I guess we should be glad it wasn’t 3-2 at the time…


  211. 222 Gil in Mechanicsville October 6, 2012 at 12:24 am

    Maybe the rule should be that an umpire who is stationed in the outfield cannot make the call. Just one of the worse calls ever, too bad we cannot call the real umps back to duty…. The shoddy fielding did not help but at least the Braves were not the only ones making errors.


  212. 224 Voice of Raisins October 6, 2012 at 9:55 am

    OK… had to let things settle in before I posted something on the world wide interweb that will live in perpetuity.

    I said it before the fact, so this is not sour grapes: I hate the one game play-in format. I have come to accept the Wild Card simply because it’s necessary with the odd number of 3 divisions per league. I still do not like that teams are rewarded for coming close. 2nd place is not the winning place. But Wild Card in and of itself is another argument for another time. To widen it to 2 Wild Card teams? Now you are rewarding even lower mediocrity…

    Now… the beauty of the MLB playoff series is that the best team has a chance to show itself over 7 games. It’s ridiculous to reward a team for winning 1 game. Ridiculous. (I would be saying the same thing had the Braves won, just from a little happier standpoint.)

    A one game play-in simply means that anything can happen.,, as was evidenced by the idiocy on display in Atlanta. Did that cost Atlanta the game? No one will ever know. But bases loaded with 1 out is a whole lot better than 2nd and 3rd with 2 out. Not to mention that rallies are often achieved on momentum. Any momentum achieved by the Braves was summarily squashed by the horrendous call by one umpire. And to make it more ridiculous, he was the flippin’ outfield umpire. How in the name of Skip Carey can an Infield Fly Rule be called by an outfield umpire?

    I am so disappointed in Fredi Gonzalez for not taking the issue further, He gives up way too easily, a trait that might be rubbing off on his team. Just sayin’. But again, that is another topic for another rant.

    I love my Braves. I always will. But Bud Selig is making me lose affection for Major League Baseball every single day.

    I’m with you, Gil. My season is over.


  213. 225 Carolina Lady October 6, 2012 at 5:17 pm

    Even if it HAD been an infield fly rule, the fact remains that neither the infielder nor the outfielder touched it. It dropped untouched in the grass. Think trap instead of clean catch. Think – well, never mind. I never knew the infield extended 50-some feet into the outfield. And Joe Torre denied the Braves protest – which doesn’t surprise me. No matter what happened on the field, the score was going to stand. Got a TV schedule to maintain, after all.


  214. 226 Voice of Raisins October 6, 2012 at 6:18 pm

    Joe Torre is a schmuck.


  215. 227 Carolina Lady October 7, 2012 at 2:01 am

    When is spring training??


  216. 228 Voice of Raisins October 8, 2012 at 11:23 am

    Now that 2012 is over, I have been pondering 2013. What a weird offseason this will be. For the first time in 19 years, the Braves have no idea who will stand on the hot corner. 2 pitchers the Braves seemed ready to build around just 2 years ago will likely both be someplace other than The Happiest Place On Earth in February. The long sought CF and leadoff guy will likely be opening a very large bank account in another city. And the guy seen widely as the most likely to receive the leadership torch from Chipper may not even be active for the early part of the season.

    Frank, you have a really tough job coming up.

    That said, Frank also has a really good core to build around. I’ll start with 3 names: Heyward, Freeman, Prado. That’s a great start. I’ll even add Simmons to that list. I love the kid. Now pitching. The grizzled vet Tim Hudson is an easy option decision for 2013. Follow that with the M’s: Medlen, Maholm and Minor, and you have a pretty darn good starting rotation regardless of #5. Speaking of #5, Beachy will fit in somewhere around or after the ASB, but until then, you have much ballyhooed up 7 comers Delgado and Teheran.

    In the bully, O’Ventbrel comes back again, along with Avilan who was very good in his first season here. The battle for the other spots will be a good one, with Moylan, Martinez, Gearrin and others all capable of getting out ML hitters.

    I’m not worried about pitchers in the least.

    Now… hitters.

    We will need: either a 3B or a LF, and likely a CF. And somebody’s gotta leadoff. In my opinion, Frank will shop for a LF since there will be alot nore options than 3B. So, replacing 2/3 of the OF and the leadoff guy. Tough one.

    Prediction: Either Delgado or Teheran is a goner. It’s time. There is no room for both of them, and they cannot develop anymore. One will be used to obtain 1 aforementioned OF. The other OF will come via FA. But don’t look for Hamilton or Bourne. Too much $$ for one guy. Victorino? Maybe… I can see it. As for leadoff, Victorino would fit that bill, but no one has mentioned Simmons for that role. I could see it. He ought to be a candidate. At least in my opinion.

    Biggest offseason question IMO: who catches until Mac is back? Ross? Guess what… he’s no longer under contract. Shocker, right? That one flew under the radar. My money says that Frank makes Ross his first order of business after exercising the options on Huddy and Mac. I hope he gets it done. Then.. who is BUC? Christian Martinez? Still a couple of years away, IMO. Maybe I’m wrong.

    Martin cannot do everything. (OK, he probably can do it, but he really shouldn’t… πŸ˜‰ )


  217. 229 Voice of Raisins October 8, 2012 at 11:26 am

    Then.. who is BUC? Christian Martinez?

    Duh.. of course that should have read Christian Bethancourt. πŸ˜›


  218. 231 Voice of Raisins October 9, 2012 at 9:15 am

    Saw this on MLBTR: The Yankees’ desire to keep their payroll under $189MM in 2014 could complicate their chances to sign Rafael Soriano to a long-term deal once he opts out, writes Heyman.

    Seriously… how complicated is it to flesh out a $189MM payroll? Try $89MM Mr. Cashman. Think you could do that? πŸ™„


  219. 232 Voice of Raisins October 9, 2012 at 9:24 am

    So… according to The Denver Post’s Patrick Saunders, the Rockies are likely to shop CF Dexter Fowler for young pitching. That would be 26yo, switch-hitting w/ .389 OBP Dexter Fowler who is not FA eligible until 2016 and who just happens to have played his HS ball at Milton HS in Atlanta suburb Alpharetta.

    I believe that Frank might be looking to trade young pitching for an impact CF.



  220. 233 berigan2electricboogaloo October 9, 2012 at 11:31 am

    V, interesting…I just wonder if they would trade one of the 2 now, when they wouldn’t for Borne…but of course, the GM in Houston was clearly not very bright, didn’t seem to get anyone’s top prospects for him or Pence, and all the other players over 24 they traded away….
    as for the Yankees…they still have so much tied up to players like A-Rod, Jeter(amazingly, he’s still worth it) Tex, etc…not a bit of sympathy mind you…
    of course, just read Swisher thinks he should get a Jayson Werth north of 100 Mil contract…Yankees likely won’t go for that…scratch him off the braves list too.
    I got a bit depressed reading the readers digest version of the Wren interview on MLBTR.
    Braves would go after “premium” players…but of course…Then he talks like your grandpa would about the high cost of players…(hmmm, can’t find that now, but know I read that!) oh, found it…man, eyes are old…
    It would take a “very, very big piece” to trade Randall Delgado or Julio Teheran this winter. The trade market does figure to be in play for the Braves though, as Wren said he won’t be “going outrageous salary-wise” on free agents. The team will be “looking for premium players,” but Wren cautions they’re not looking to add a player to the team as much as they are looking to add value. If they feel that adding two players can give them more than one premium name, they’ll pursue that route instead. Read, we are going to buy low, and keep are fingers crossed that they will help us beat the Nats….rriiiiight….
    also from the article…
    Wren says he’s looking forward to a “focused” offseason. The front office recognizes that they have to replace Jones at third base, and they hope to retain Michael Bourn, whose contract expired at season’s end. The team would like to address center field and the leadoff position in the same move — a role which Bourn can obviously fill. The Braves contacted Bourn’s representatives about an extension in Spring Training but were told to wait until after the season to engage in negotiations.
    Atlanta would love to have David Ross back in the fold in 2013. Wren spoke very highly of his backup catcher to O’Brien.
    The Braves chose not to have Brian McCann undergo an MRI with a dye injection during the season because the recovery is too long. McCann will undergo that test in the near future, which could reveal a need for surgery, but for the time being the Braves believe their catcher needs only rest to recover.

    Nice that he speaks highly of Ross. Like you said V, too bad they didn’t think to offer an extension during the season. Wonder if, as Tony Francona calls him, the best backup catcher in the game, if other teams might offer him a contract too? πŸ™„
    We know that it’s unlikely that they can keep Bourn. So, gotta trade a good arm. Ok, still a hole or two. Move Prado to 3rd? Or put him in at 2nd, and move Uggla to 3rd? Still have to fill LF. Gotta go cheap. Cheap “premium” Who??? Another arm traded away, cuz team owned by a barely interested Multi Billionaire who doesn’t want to spend the going rate for players today?


  221. 234 berigan2electricboogaloo October 9, 2012 at 11:38 am

    Italic crazy…sorry…and I forgot the part that angered me the most….

    The Braves chose not to have Brian McCann undergo an MRI with a dye injection during the season because the recovery is too long. McCann will undergo that test in the near future, which could reveal a need for surgery, but for the time being the Braves believe their catcher needs only rest to recover
    yeah, put this off, perhaps make it worse…if I was McCann, I’d like to know what was wrong…

    V, time to be the voice of reason again, even if just briefly…cuz, I have a bad taste in my mouth right now…I see us as being like every other team in the league was when the braves were on their roll…nats have more power arms, more potent bats and most importantly, more moola…

    Oh, keep remembering stuff I forgot….
    Jair Jurrjens’ situation is different from Tommy Hanson’s, in Wren’s mind. Wren spoke more definitely of Hanson’s future with the team than that of Jurrjens. The Braves “will have a determination” on Jurrjens’ future this winter. Jurrjens earned $5.5MM in 2012 and is a non-tender candidate for 2013 in the mind of MLBTR’s Ben Nicholson-Smith.
    Really? Did he happen to see any of Hanson’s last starts? Honestly, from a strictly pitching motion standpoint, I’d give JJ more of a chance of turning it around someday.
    Perhaps talking Hanson up hoping some team didn’t scout the braves in Sept and will give up Dexter Fowler for him! πŸ˜‰


  222. 235 berigan2electricboogaloo October 9, 2012 at 11:39 am

    can italics get stuck on???? ❓


  223. 236 berigan2electricboogaloo October 9, 2012 at 11:40 am

    apparently !!!!


  224. 237 Voice of Raisins October 9, 2012 at 12:13 pm

    B, I will try to be said Voice of Reason once again…

    As to McCann, he has a cyst in his shoulder that may or may not require surgery to be removed. The cyst will not cause any further damage by waiting. The dye test itself would have surely knocked Mac out of service for more time than anyone was willing to give up that late in the season. So, the delay was all about 2012 – a season that everyone except Joe Torre thought might give Chipper a storybook ending.

    As for Frank’s comments about “not spending outrageous money” on one player… yes, it likely prevents him from re-signing Bourn, from signing Josh Hamilton or Nick Swisher, etc. As for Bourn, he’s already 30 years old, and every year of his multi-year deal he will literally be in decline. If you pay him what Boras will demand in the market, be ready to have Jose Constanza as your LF next season, because Frank will shoot all of his bullets in one shot. Same goes for Hamilton or Swisher.

    It’s no big surprise that Prado will almost certainly move back to 3B for 2013. There are almost no impact 3B available (that we know of… Frank can be sneaky sometimes). So you have to acquire 2 OF. I am still of the opinion that Frank will sign one good FA and trade for one very good/premium OF.

    Don’t forget, too, that you have to look at signing Prado to a multi-year deal, else he goes FA after next year.

    So if we are correct to assume that Frank has somewhere in the neighborhood of $30MM to spend this offseason (nice neighborhood, by the way), it would be unwise to spend $20MM+ on any one player. As he said, and I completely agree, “we are trying to build a team, not acquire one player”.

    The Braves do not need an “ace” for the rotation, and they don’t have to find a “star” to sell seats. They have a very, very good core of young players, all breaking through into stardom themselves. What the Braves need is to fill out the open spots with solid specific parts. Must have a leadoff guy, must have good defense in CF, must have a RH power bat. That’s doable with 2 “premium” players, but not with 1 “outrageous salary”.

    For my money, I try to trade for Dexter Fowler (SH, leadoff, premium CF defense) and sign Shane Victorino (SH, premium LF defense). I bat Fowler leadoff (S), Victorino 2nd (S), Prado 3rd (R), Heyward cleanup (L), Freeman 6th (L), Mac (L)/Ross (R) and/or Uggla (R) 6th and 7th, SImmons 8th (R), and have a heckuva lineup.

    You may not have a 30+HR guy, unless Uggla returns and Heyward continues to blossom, but you’ll have tremendous OBP and speed.


  225. 238 Voice of Raisins October 9, 2012 at 12:14 pm

    And it looks as though the italics issue is with WordPress… not with you, Ber. (Or me…)


  226. 239 Voice of Raisins October 9, 2012 at 12:36 pm

    Above should read Freeman 5th (L)… just got my fingers a little off on the ol’ keyboard…


  227. 240 Voice of Raisins October 9, 2012 at 12:38 pm

    Honestly, with the trio of Freeman, Mac and Uggla, you can mix and match those 3 as pitching matchups demand, and as hot bats dictate. Each of those guys can get hot for periods of time and necessitate moving him up in the order. That’s what you have a manager for. But that is another discussion for another day…


  228. 241 Carolina Lady October 9, 2012 at 11:44 pm

    Need you help, guys. Who do you want featured on our next banner? Is the flag background still good or do you want something different. Open to all suggestions! All those of you who wished me Happy Birthday get something special!


  229. 242 Voice of Raisins October 10, 2012 at 8:18 am

    My opinion:

    Until our current President turns us into the United Socialist States of Amerika, I cannot imagine a more fitting banner than Old Glory. Baseball is America’s game, after all…

    I love the Bobby tribute in the center.

    Chipper should be moved from the active side (left) to the HOF side (right), and our new star – No. 22, Mr. Heyward – should be added to the left.

    Fredi should be there somewhere, I suppose, since he is our current leader, but not on the right with the greats. He hasn’t earned that honor.

    Just my opinion…


  230. 243 Voice of Raisins October 10, 2012 at 8:28 am

    … and Happy Belated Birthday, CL. You are a great admiral of this B&S ark.


  231. 244 Gil in Mechanicsville October 10, 2012 at 10:16 am

    CL’s birthday? How did I miss that? Happy birthday MYLADY…

    Great points guys, Again, I am not concerned as to how much the Braves have to spend. It is not my dough. When you here an organization starts using money as a reason, it is really just an excuse.

    It would appear to me that a good lead off guy has long been a problem for the Braves. You can really get spoiled after having Furcal for so many years.

    It sucks not being enough of a wonk to know all the up and coming kids in the minors who could become an impact guy. Someone who would really be worth a Delgado or a Teheran. Too bad there is no one out there who would be willing to give up a slew of players for someone on the Braves roster like the Braves gave up for Texiera. .


  232. 245 Voice of Raisins October 10, 2012 at 10:35 am

    Re: Michael Bourn. I love the guy. He has been great for Atlanta for his 1 1/2 seasons here. Well, for about 1 season anyway. He faded badly toward the end of this season. Thumb injury? I’m sure that played a role. But folks, his game is built around his speed. He’s 30 now. If he gets the 6-7 year deal most expect he’ll receive, he’ll be 36 or 37 at the end of it, pulling down $13MM+ while playing LF and stealing about 12 bases. No thanks. We’ve already had Nate McLouth and Reggie Sanders. And those guys weren’t even that old…


  233. 246 berigan2electricboogaloo October 10, 2012 at 11:38 am

    CL, happy Birthday! πŸ™‚ Belatedly…sigh… 😦 Don’t get facebook. Sometimes I get an email saying so and so has a birthday next week…just saw one for a cousin, that was today…but not one for CL??? I also have my browser page too wide it appears, the birthdays are off the screen on the right. I recall it being someone’s birthday, a year or so ago on facebook, and you saw all these folks wishing someone a happy birthday..guess they decided that was too busy, it was better for folks to get automated messages about games fewer and fewer people seem to play πŸ˜• .


  234. 247 Gil in Mechanicsville October 11, 2012 at 6:03 pm

    DOB had a pretty good piece today on the Braves needs and deeds for 2013, it is worth a look.


  235. 248 Voice of Raisins October 12, 2012 at 11:25 am

    And the Braves have extended Frank through 2014. Good move. He’s done a great job on a very uneven playing field. Now Fredi..? Hmmm… no comment.


  236. 249 Gil in Mechanicsville October 12, 2012 at 11:37 am

    Morning all, Looks like the Reds came up short again, actually, 29 teams will feel that way soon. Nice to see a couple of new kids, the Nats and the Os go deep but that only makes the hurt a little deeper for a Braves fan. Lots of folks thinking all the money the Nationals paid for Jason Werth was well spent yesterday.

    I can’t help but remember the heads up Ber gave us on Ibanez a couple of years ago. He sure has made a difference for the Phillies and the Yankees and for relatively little money too. Anyone else laying in the weeds you can point out for us Conrad?

    I saw Pagan a couple of years ago in spring training when he was still with the Mets and came away thinking of how intense he was. His head always seems to be in the game.

    Quickness is a pretty important quality for a centerfielder to have, maybe more than pure speed. Stolen bases are nice but sometimes for naught. I am more about quality steals rather than just stolen bases. Maybe someone will come up with a stat for that someday. Like, how many times a stolen base translates into a run vs just left on base because they walk the next guy to get to a lefty or righty or a guy with a sub .200 BA.

    Also thinking of re-posting Raisins excellent opine as a blog lead. More airplay so to speak.


  237. 250 berigan2electricboogaloo October 12, 2012 at 11:51 am

    Ever feel like you have already posted something, that was just in your head? 😯 Guess the crazy spinning eyes emoticon is on another forum! πŸ˜‰
    Anyway, V and G, you have helped convince me a bit all is not lost…
    DOB made some very interesting suggestions…one small problem with Pagan though. Why would the Giants not re-sign him?
    I think V’s thought of the flyin Hawaiian seems a bit more likely. I think he would really have something to prove with when he played the Phils.
    I’m just now able to pay some attention to the playoffs…sorry for the A’s, but man what a run! I sure hope the O’s can beat the dam…er the Dang Yankees. But the baseball gods have a neverending love for the Yankees, for some reason. You just KNOW Derek Jeter won’t play his last game and have an error help cost them a 1 game playoffs…
    Giants. Meh. Well, they surprised me beating the Reds 3 straight. Poor Dusty.
    Nats, Cards. Well, I was kinda thinking might as well have the team that beat us beat everyone else in the NL. Nats will have many a chance, and something about them going deep without their best pitcher…who they should have rested in April and May so he could be pitching now…it’s kinda Irksome (blog first?)
    Oh well..
    Gil, a player in the weeds? Hmm, let me think about that…
    V’s post would make a good lead! Plus, it will give me time to heal and write that blog in praise of Freddi…


  238. 251 Carolina Lady October 12, 2012 at 11:58 pm

    Anybody know where Bobby Dews is these days? Haven’t heard anything about him in a long while.


  239. 252 Voice of Raisins October 13, 2012 at 9:05 am

    Re: Bobby Dews…

    He has a Facebook page. He is an interesting guy. You should “friend request” him. πŸ™‚


  240. 253 berigan2electricboogaloo October 13, 2012 at 11:20 am

    Wow, anyone watch the Cards/Nats game last night??? I didn’t for much of the game…I decided the Cards should win since the braves where beaten by them. So, figured they would lose just like any team I had some or a lot of interest in seeing win. (Braves, A’s, O’s, Reds) Cards were down 6-0, then got as close as 6-5, when the Nats got a seemingly important/crushing additional run off the cards closer in the 8th to make it 7-5. Kept watching for some reason…glad I did. The Braves players should be forced to watch the cards 9th like ala Clockwork Orange, with eyes forced open, about 1000 times. No one trying to hit a homer(well, perhaps Matt Holiday tried, and that’s why he grounded out) but they were down to their last strike, twice in the inning, didn’t panic, knew the pitcher would keep tossing pitches low and outside, might bite once, but not again…two guys walked. Just very smart A.B.s.
    Of course I did feel bad for the Nats fans as they almost got to go nuts twice, what with being a strike away not once, but twice in the 9th. That can’t be any fun. Bet the Cards face the Yankees in the W.S. No guessing on who I or most of America will be rooting for then!


  241. 254 Gil in Mechanicsville October 13, 2012 at 11:35 am

    Well, the Nats showed the value of having a shutdown closer last night…. Saw it coming when Gio started to collapse in the fifth. The Cards are like the Red Chinese in they keep pouring over the hill at you until you run out of bullets and they just overrun you.

    Os lose so only team in the fray I can root for are the Tigers. Watch the Yankees sweep them… Sigh.

    I thought V’s suggestion on trading for Fowler was a good one.

    I’m not sure the Braves really need a true lead off guy or just a different approach when men are on base. Bobby always seemed to do okay with teams that hardly ever stole bases.

    For the next couple of years, I’m thinking Simmons could do a creditable job. He has some speed and appears to like to bunt plus he has the power to ambush if necessary. Generally, lead-off guys have to be patient and be willing to see more pitches, look at the success the Nays have had with Jason Werth in the lead off spot.

    I think it’s funny the word is Washington needs a player like Bourne, they need bull pen help more. We have seen it often enough in Atlanta to realize the difference a sound bull pen makes. They have more than enough offense. Got to be able to keep the other guys from scoring too. (Remember the Texiera trade?)



  242. 255 Carolina Lady October 13, 2012 at 3:24 pm

    V, thanks for the info on Bobby Dews. He’s a wonderful person!


  243. 256 berigan2electricboogaloo October 13, 2012 at 11:08 pm

    Wow, have the Cards become the Yankees of the NL? πŸ˜‰
    I honestly think Storen was fine, if a team can lay off someone’s split/slider/cutter, and they have to try to pump fastballs past guys, unless they are named Kimbrel, or that guy from Cincy. that ain’t gonna work..

    Ok, how’s this for a name???
    Hes a righty…then you just need to get a CF’er like Fowler or Shane…
    Hal McCoy of the Dayton Daily News writes that the Reds might not be able to match the best offers that come in for Ryan Ludwick, but the club may be able to come close enough to make the outfielder want to give them a discount out of loyalty. Ludwick and the Reds have a $5MM mutual option for 2013 but he is expected to decline it.


  244. 257 Gil in Mechanicsville October 14, 2012 at 10:01 am

    Perhaps we need to employ the Terry Pendleton equation. That is, to look at a guys career number while hitting at Turner Field (Fulton County Stadium West) when evaluating potential additions to the roster. It is a given that certain players prefer certain parks because of the subtle nuances of the batter’s eye and backgrounds. Terry had a career difference of nearly 100 points better at the old Fulton County Stadium than he had anywhere else.

    I felt at the time the Nats scored a win by picking up Michael Morse a couple of seasons ago. He would have been a real asset to the Braves and at K-Mart prices too.

    I think Josh Willingham’s name has come up several times as a possible addition. I don’t know the chemistry he had with Fredi G but I remember him being very raw in the outfield while in Florida and Washington. Maybe he just likes it in the American League better where defense is less of an issue?

    There have been several players whom have ended up elsewhere even though I thought they would have been a excellent fit for the Braves. Who knows why some of these guys go elsewhere, More money, more playing time, family ties, old grudges? I don’t know but it would sure be nice to know.


  245. 258 Gil in Mechanicsville October 15, 2012 at 10:25 am

    Oh by the way, it was really sad to find that Derek Jeter broke his ankle making a play in the twelfth inning the other night. This after Ber’s pick, Raul Ibanez hit a two run dinger to tie up the game in the bottom of the ninth.

    Reminded me a lot of the hi and lows the Braves experience in 2010 against the Giants after Hinske hit the go ahead home run.

    Oh well, looks like the Cardinals are locked in. Not saying they will win it all but shows yet again the team with the best record is not always the team that can win it all. So many twist and turns in the play offs. I mean, did anyone really think Chipper would sail one into right field changing the entire complexion of the game?

    Okay, as soon as CL gets the new lead back from the graphics department, I am sure she will post it.


  246. 259 berigan2electricboogaloo October 16, 2012 at 3:42 am

    Gil, thats an interesting thought picking hitters that hit well here in the ATL.


  247. 260 Gil in Mechanicsville October 16, 2012 at 10:31 am

    Ber, it was one of the things I remember Skip Carey talking about when the Braves signed Terry to play third base. The point was made. and stuck with me, that teams often overlook the point of how a player fits with their park.

    Teams usually try to tailor their team to the place where they play half of their games. It is not just the size of the home town crowd that makes the difference.

    I think the slope of the pitcher’s mound in certain ballparks make a difference too. The height has to be regulation but the slope often subtle differences.

    Having said that, I was thinking of the type of park that would be best suited for Tommy Hanson and I keep thinking the bases would have to be 120 feet apart rather than 90 and the fences would have to be moved back another 100 feet in all directions. Just saying….


  248. 261 Voice of Raisins October 16, 2012 at 12:55 pm

    BMac had is surgery today. The results of dye-MRI prompted them to go ahead with the surgery, which is to be confined to the posterior part of the shoulder. That’s significant, because surgery on the front side requires a much longer recovery. Obviously, they do not know exactly how long he’ll be out, but there is a feeling that he could be ready by the beginning of the season, if not shortly thereafter.

    One of the objectives of the surgery will be to “tighten” up the socket. It was revealed today that Mac had been dealing with multiple subluxations (partial dislocations) of his shoulder throughout the past season.

    They kept that quiet pretty dang well, huh?


  249. 262 berigan2electricboogaloo October 16, 2012 at 2:27 pm

    V, interesting! Bet that explains the B.A. dropping like a rock, after a hot July.
    Too bad he can’t play 3rd. Or FF can’t go to 3rd.


  250. 263 Carolina Lady October 16, 2012 at 4:08 pm

    Finally! The B&S Graphics Department finished Gil’s lead.



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