152: One Month Down, Five to Go

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Well, the first month of the 2016 season is behind us and in this year of rebuilding, the Braves have firmly established themselves in their cellar. They say every team has to rebuild at some point, the real trick is to not make it a generational thing like the Pirates did from 1992 to 2014. Everyone knew the Braves would be bad, nobody thought they would be this bad. Of course, the Braves have had a brutal schedule. Other than the Marlins, every team faced so far figured to be in the play-off this year.

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Most thought the Braves would fight it out with the Phillies to stay out of the cellar but the Phillies have done better than expected but they have not had as tough a schedule either. That said, they did sweep the Nationals in Washington last week. So far, the Nationals have been the class of the division. The Mets have stumbled a bit out of the gate but they are currently only 1/2 game behind the Nats.

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Aybar

The Braves have endured two horrendous losing streaks. The inability to get timely hits coupled with a bullpen that is leakier than the Titanic post iceberg collision. Perhaps most surprising has been a very porous defense. They say every trade should be evaluated long term. That said, Eric Aybar has not made people forget Andrelton Simmons. Until the promising pitchers included in the deal show up, this deal has all the makings of being Len Barkerish on the bad trade scale.

So, what to look forward to? The Braves will begin to rotate some of their promising young pitchers into the rotation. Will that help? Maybe but until they actually find some pitchers who have the ability to hold leads after the sixth inning, they will continue to break the hearts of Atlanta fans everywhere. This is not the first time we have seen poor performance out of the pen, the last time we saw the Braves try secure a bat to make up for the

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Schuerholz

lack of arms in the pen. That resulted with John Schuerholz being demoted upstairs and the Rangers riding the trade to the World Series as they cleaned out all the available talent in the Braves farm system. It was a trade which I think has impeded the Braves ever since.

So, what do we have to look forward to short term?

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Incarte

Enders Incarte should be back soon.  That should allow Drew Stubbs or Mallex Smith to return to Triple A.  I still believe Albies will make it to the big club this season.  Just as soon as Eric Aybar improves his value and becomes acceptable to some other teams. That and who gets hurt, who stays healthy and who is positioned to make the play-offs.

Now, the biggest surprise might be the trade of Markakis. Not saying it will happen but I would not be surprised if it

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Markakis

does. Markakis would produce the biggest haul of any player currently on the roster. He has a very affordable contract for a player of his ability and would be a good addition for any team he was added to.

Other possible position player prospects we could see are Dansby Swanson and Rio Ruiz. I think a lot depends on how much the Braves think it would benefit both the club and the players to be promoted. The Braves already know the season is lost. Now it is a matter of how willing they are to bet they can keep their fan base intact for their move to their new stadium in 2017.

 

 

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614 Responses to “152: One Month Down, Five to Go”


  1. 1 Carolina Lady April 30, 2016 at 9:54 pm

    Excellent, Gil! Thanks once again for your constant efforts for all of us!

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  2. 2 berigan2electricboogaloo May 1, 2016 at 12:48 am

    Great as always Gil! 🙂

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  3. 3 Gil in Mechanicsville May 1, 2016 at 6:54 am

    Thanks guys, kudos to the gang in the graphics dept CL..

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  4. 5 berigan2electricboogaloo May 1, 2016 at 2:04 pm

    Interesting take on players from Curacao and Aruba…hopefully Albies isn’t going to be rushed cuz he got off to a hot start…
    http://www.gammonsdaily.com/peter-gammons-the-power-develpement-curve-for-curacaoan-and-aruban-players/

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  5. 6 Gil in Mechanicsville May 1, 2016 at 6:48 pm

    An interesting game today. Julio was dealing, unfortunately, the Braves pen blew the win for Teheran but Nick Markakis refused to lose. So, the Braves, while still sporting the worse record in baseball, are edging up on the Astros and Padres. Hey, a win is a win. The way things are going, I’ll take it.

    So, it’s off to New York City and the Mets.

    By the way, looks like Fredi will keep his job for one more week at least.

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  6. 8 Gil in Mechanicsville May 2, 2016 at 9:08 am

    Just another example off the pinkos rewriting history. Next thing you know, they will be saying the Civil War was over slavery. Oh, wait…

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  7. 9 Vox O'Reason May 2, 2016 at 9:54 am

    Say goodbye to EOF…

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  8. 10 Vox O'Reason May 2, 2016 at 9:57 am

    Then again, maybe not so fast.

    Burnett is attempting a comeback, so he’ll have to prove himself first. Comeback from what, you ask?

    Well, TJ surgery, of course. TJ #2 to be exact. So perhaps EOF shouldn’t be packing any items up quite yet.

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  9. 11 Vox O'Reason May 2, 2016 at 10:24 am

    Folty starts tonight’s game vs. Bartolo Colon and the Mets, pushing the other pitchers back a day. Norris will not return to the rotation, and likely is being shopped around for anything with a pulse. Until then, I expect him to be available out of the bullpen for long relief duty. Folty has arrived for good. And that is good. If we’re into this phase of the rebuild, then time to let the young’uns take over.

    Matt Tuiasosopo is a RH hitting LF that is currently slashing a very pedestrian 218/324/425 but w/ 4 HR’s and 13 RBI. The Braves desperately need another RH bat off the bench, especially with Frenchy platooning in LF. Tui also offers a little bit of power, as evidenced by his 4 HR’s and 6 2B’s out of 19 hits. He catches a real break by the snag that prevents Bonifacio from joining the team until May 6. I suppose you can call this a short 4 day audition to steal that spot from Boni. He does have some ML experience, spending parts of 3 seasons with SEA and DET. His best season was 2013 when he slashed .244/351/415 w/ 7 HR’s and 30 RBI in 81 games, mostly in LF.

    This is a clear signal that Mallex Smith is here to stay, and that Drew Stubbs is probably not. He is supposed to be the RH bench bat, but his bat has been very anemic with little power. His biggest contribution is his speed, but Mallex has that covered (and then some). I think when Ender is ready to return to the OF, Stubbs is the odd man out. (Of course, there will be another decision to be made when Beckham is ready to return, but that’s another conversation for a later post.)

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  10. 12 Gil in Mechanicsville May 2, 2016 at 10:54 am

    Tuiasosopo is the epic example of “who else is down there” … I’ll be surprised if he gets more than two at bats in his brief ML call-up. Agree on the Stubbs option. Thinking Mallex could use a little more base running experience but then again, he has not been thrown out by a bunch. I think it more of an anti-rookie bias from umpires. Close calls never go in favor of rookies.

    Easy O is with us until he isn’t. Shoulder surgery, right? He is still damaged goods. So, when do we see Norris? After the Braves are down by five runs and the Braves are looking for a sacrificial lamb to eat innings. Could result in some ugly scores.

    Still think Chacin was a good pick up for the Braves. Jim Johnson is still struggling but he hides behind the veil of a bad team. I thought Grille looked stellar yesterday, very solid performance in the tenth to nail down the win.

    I thought Visciano looked tight. Pitched that way. Maybe he still owes somebody money in Chicago. He choked, plain and simple. He is a better pitcher than what he showed.

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  11. 13 Vox O'Reason May 2, 2016 at 12:52 pm

    I think it more of an anti-rookie bias from umpires. Close calls never go in favor of rookies.

    And I can specifically think of 3 challenges ergarding Mallex in the last week that appeared to me to show Mallex beating the tag. All 3 went against him… one even being a reversal, which almost never happens.

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  12. 14 Gil in Mechanicsville May 2, 2016 at 1:48 pm

    Same goes for pitchers getting borderline calls. I’m pretty sure Maddox and Glavine got a lot of calls due to their reputation. We know umpires cannot see certain parts of the plate when the ball gets near the dish. A lot of it is positioning. I suspect we will see MLB go to electronic calling of balls and strikes in our lifetime. Too much money on the line for it not to be otherwise. We already have all types of races being decided by .001 of a second.

    Now, if they could just learn how to get the flop calls out of basketball and soccer.

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  13. 15 Vox O'Reason May 2, 2016 at 2:20 pm

    We know umpires cannot see certain parts of the plate when the ball gets near the dish.

    Especially C.B. Bucknor. That guy’s horrible.

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  14. 16 Vox O'Reason May 2, 2016 at 3:36 pm

    Uh, what?

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  15. 17 Gil in Mechanicsville May 2, 2016 at 4:36 pm

    And whom may I ask will be jettisoned? Stubb? Aybar? Peterson? Somebody traded? May questions, few answers…. Of course they may add position players, delete bullpen…

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  16. 18 Gil in Mechanicsville May 2, 2016 at 5:45 pm

    Reid Brignac playing second base tonight.

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  17. 19 Gil in Mechanicsville May 2, 2016 at 5:52 pm

    Jace Peterson sent to Gwinnett, Stubbs DFA.

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  18. 20 Gil in Mechanicsville May 2, 2016 at 6:03 pm

    Okay, Aybar still making too much money. Trade will be announced soon. IMO…

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  19. 21 berigan2electricboogaloo May 2, 2016 at 7:49 pm

    well ….v, folty may not be here to stay….I was in the kitchen, missed all 3 of the homers he gave up in the 1st (Isn’t that a shame) but he was throwing 92-93 and Colon was teeing off on him(just missed a double) …thought I heard he might have a sore…something? surely they wouldn’t leave him out there with a sore arm, right????
    Then the braves get a double and a single…but AJ couldn’t score…Folty bunted…then M Smith got 3 pitches, 2 that were not really strikes (One was above and to the right of the strikezone…kids really need to try to hit that pitch, right? :/ ) Now Folty hit 96….good sign

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  20. 22 Carolina Lady May 2, 2016 at 8:58 pm

    Whatever happened to names like Green, Jones, Smith, White, etc. Nice simple, easy-to-spell names?? Tupl – uh, something? Another frenchman, d’Arnaud. Brignac? Sounds like a frequent visitor to a Navy jail. It’s real hard to get excited over a bunch of people you’ve never heard of – kinda. 🙂

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  21. 23 berigan2electricboogaloo May 3, 2016 at 5:56 am

    CL, I wouldn’t worry about committing their names to memory…but point taken. So many odd names these days in sports…

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  22. 24 Vox O'Reason May 3, 2016 at 6:21 am

    Don’t worry about Folty. Butterfiles from his big league return. The kid will be fine. Don’t over-react. Over-reaction would have prevented John Smoltz’ HOF career.

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  23. 25 Vox O'Reason May 3, 2016 at 7:22 am

    Courtesy of Bowman:

    “I don’t want to use that as an excuse,” Foltynewicz said. “I was ready for this game, and it was probably the best I’ve felt all year coming into the game. But I might have gotten a little too amped up in the first inning and maybe kind of rushed through the first nine batters without taking my breaths and thinking [about] what to throw.”

    “These guys are Major League hitters, and those balls are right over the middle of the plate,” Braves manager Fredi Gonzalez said. “But he competed. He had a [42-pitch] first inning and gave us a couple more innings, and he shut them down. He started mixing his pitches and started commanding his fastball.”

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  24. 26 Vox O'Reason May 3, 2016 at 7:27 am

    Whatever happened to names like Green, Jones, Smith, White, etc.

    Wouldn’t you just love to hear Skip call Foltynewicz, Tuiasosopo, d’Arnaud, Brignac, and Cervenka?

    Actually, that kinda sounds like a NY law firm…

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  25. 27 Gil in Mechanicsville May 3, 2016 at 11:06 am

    Whenever I see a can’t miss kid like Foltynewicz get lite up early, I am reminded of another can’t miss kid by the name of Steve Avery get bombed by the Mets when he first arrived on the scene.

    Folty settled down but he is right, his tempo was really mess up early. It was like catch the ball from Perzinski, throw it back. No waiting.. Just catch and throw.

    He did much better when he started mixing in his curve ball. When you get the count 3-2, opposing hitters know a fast ball (a flat fast ball) is coming. I am thinking he was worried about walking guys. It happens…

    Bud Norris made his predicted appearance with the game out of hand. I know, being down by four runs does not constitute a rout but to this offensively challenged Braves team, it does.

    It does not get any easier today against Harvey but he might be the one guy who is struggling a bit in this Mets line-up. I am still a little curious as to why the Braves sent Peterson down. He has been one of the few Braves hitters who has come through in the clutch.

    I thought Brignac was going to have a very quick appearance on the big club but to his credit, he got in front of the ball when it bad hopped into his face. Going to have a really back eye from that…

    Traffic sure does drop off when the Braves lose doesn’t it? Good thing we are not relying of advertising bucks to keep this blog up and going.

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  26. 28 Vox O'Reason May 3, 2016 at 12:21 pm

    I am still a little curious as to why the Braves sent Peterson down.

    Well, lemme put it this way: .182/.260/.205 That pretty much sums it up. And .221/.293/.319 in the second half of last season after starting strong. It wouldn’t be the first time that a player started strong until the league had a “book” on him. Now reportedly, he was suffering from a thumb injury during that poor second half, and that would certainly explain the dropoff. But that is supposed to be healed now.

    Anyway, the company line is that they want him playing everyday, and he can’t do that in ATL batting .182, especially when Daniel Castro is doing anything and everything he can to contribute to the team. So there ya go…

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  27. 29 Gil in Mechanicsville May 3, 2016 at 1:29 pm

    Points well taken.

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  28. 30 Vox O'Reason May 3, 2016 at 2:08 pm

    Of course, to be fair, Castro isn’t setting the league on fire with his bat either. But he just seems to always be doing something that helps the team. He’s got great baseball instincts and always seems to be in the right place at the right time.

    If he could hit .250 he’d be a star.

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  29. 31 Vox O'Reason May 3, 2016 at 2:10 pm

    2016 Daniel Castro: .230/.266/.246

    2016 Andrelton Simmons: .232/.248/.303

    Interesting…

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  30. 32 Vox O'Reason May 3, 2016 at 2:11 pm

    2016 Erick Aybar: .178/.194/.211

    Nauseating…

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  31. 33 Vox O'Reason May 3, 2016 at 2:13 pm

    Even more interesting…

    2016 errors:

    Andrelton Simmons – 2
    Erick Aybar – 2
    Daniel Castro – 0

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  32. 34 Vox O'Reason May 3, 2016 at 2:19 pm

    When Beckham makes it back from the DL, maybe as early as this weekend, I’d like to see Erick sit while Castro and Beckham patrol the middle IF.

    Look, if Boston can sit Kung Fu Panda (who was beaten out in Spring Training, benched, and has since gotten injured) then we can surely sit Aybar.

    Heck, Melvin sat.

    But I get it. They want him to come around to at least the Mendoza line so that they can get something for him in trade. As it is right now, he might as well be Dan Uggla. So he continues to play in hopes that something will “click”… besides the TV channel, that is.

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  33. 35 Vox O'Reason May 3, 2016 at 2:26 pm

    Catcher Chris Gimenez has been DFA’d by TEX, who just obtained C Bobby Wilson from the Tiggers. Last season Gimenez hit .255/.330/.490 w/ 5 HR’s in 36 games. This year he has been injured since spring (ankle), but was set to start a rehab assignment as soon as today. Wonder if Coppy will give a look that way?

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  34. 36 Gil in Mechanicsville May 3, 2016 at 4:11 pm

    VOX, the stat not shown are plays not made by Aybar and routinely made by Simba. Also DPs not turned which do not count as an error but well, you know!

    One would think the Braves would express and interest in Gimenez but not knowing the cost, roster moves required etc. I do not know if he would accept a minor league deal which one would have to believe is all that would be offered. Perhaps he might take the long view knowing the Braves will need a full time catcher next season. You also don’t know when the injury bug might bite the current 39 year old holding down the fort.

    Gimenez has played exclusively in the AL in his career. I have no idea what his contract cost would be and I don’t know how good his arm is as far as throwing out would be base stealers. At age 33, he would be a back up to a back up…

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  35. 37 berigan2electricboogaloo May 4, 2016 at 5:22 am

    Well, after seeing our country shoot itself in the head last night…it was nice at least to see the braves win, and with a shutout!
    I think just about any other team in baseball would have sent Mallex Smith down once his batting average went down to .136. But, fortunately for all involved, they stuck with him, and has now gone 8 for his last 15, including an opposite field homer!…Has something changed with the line on the top of the fence? In the past, I thought balls hitting it were in play, even though there was this big bright yellow line on the top of fences for no good reason. Mutts have an orange line…do all fields now have an orange line that means it is actually a homer?
    I still wonder if Sietzer didn’t change his swing a bit…it just looks…different somehow…and for the better.
    And Wisler went 8 strong shutout innings to save the bullpen..and F.G.’s bacon. Buy that kid a nice steak dinner F.G!

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  36. 38 Vox O'Reason May 4, 2016 at 7:54 am

    Inconceivable…

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  37. 39 Gil in Mechanicsville May 4, 2016 at 8:20 am

    Yes, Wisler was rad last night. Not that he fooled that many Mets bats, a lot of hard hit balls at people. Took a page out of Colon’s book if you ask me.

    I have to say, Smith’s home run was one of the most exciting I have ever seen.

    The Braves have a chance today. Chacin has been pitching well.

    Ber. The only thing I can hope for is someone who can pick the right people to run the government. We shall see in the end, not much I can do beyond vote right now.

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  38. 40 Vox O'Reason May 4, 2016 at 9:08 am

    RE: Politics… and this will be very brief.

    Donald may turn out to be a horror… we don’t know. Hillary is a horror, many times over. This we all know too well. So the choice is not a difficult one.

    Political aside over. Back to more positive stuff…

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  39. 41 Gil in Mechanicsville May 4, 2016 at 9:32 am

    For me, it now comes down to a single issue, the 2nd amendment. the one that makes all the others possible.

    Of course, being an old guy, I should be a rampant Bernie Sanders supporter but I have not yet become senile.

    Rain again today.. It’s must be climate change.. I think all Democrats should stop breathing. This would reduce the amount of carbon dioxide as thus halt climate change attributed to CO2 emissions. Hey, they are the ones who say it’s man made. Come on Dems, do your part…

    Now baseball… Let’s go Braves… It’s going to be tough to replicate the feat of the Miracle Braves of 1914 winning the World Series after starting 6-18 but it has been done. Honestly, I would settle for a .500 season. One pitch at a time, one run at a time, one game at a time.

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  40. 42 Vox O'Reason May 4, 2016 at 9:32 am

    Ender Inciarte begins a rehab assignment today with the AAA G-Braves. The Braves say he could be activated as early as Saturday.

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  41. 43 Vox O'Reason May 4, 2016 at 9:37 am

    Honestly, I would settle for a .500 season.

    That’s what I desire, but to be perfectly honest, I don’t much care what they do in April, May or June. But from July on I’d like to see .500 ball.

    By the way, McAlpin shared this factoid earlier today. The Braves starters have posted a 2.05 ERA (7 ER/30.2 IP) over the last five games, or 1 full turn through the new rotation. That includes Folty’s rude greeting, too.

    The rotation now looks like this: Julio, Folty, Wisler, Chacin, Blair.

    I gotta say that I like this a whole lot better than what we opened April with.

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  42. 44 Gil in Mechanicsville May 4, 2016 at 9:47 am

    It’s why most teams say, wait until the end of May to determine what a team’s strengths and weaknesses are. I think we already know the major weakness, offense, lack of power.

    On that note, I hope last night’s home run does not ruin Mallex Smith by making him think he should go for the fences. It has happened to more than one speedster. The Willie Mays Hayes effect. Hit it on the ground kid… Level swing… Level swing… !

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  43. 45 Gil in Mechanicsville May 4, 2016 at 10:03 am

    I think it is funny, all those years of Bobby Cox winning flag after flag, everyone saying, yeah, but he never steals bases, always waiting for the three run homer. Well, it comes down to the team the front office gives you. The Braves are getting on base, they are struggling to get guys home. That and the bullpen was leakier than a sieve…

    The Braves also had some horrendously bad luck. We should not be surprised by all this, didn’t they have a similar record in the Grapefruit League this spring? Their awful spring training did portend this crappy start. Fortunately for the Braves, this is merely a continuation of last season’s slide after the All-star break.

    On another more obtuse observation… If home runs and strike outs are not all that important, why is it they dominate the landscape when it comes to highlights on ESPU, MLB network and Fox Sports One?

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  44. 46 berigan2electricboogaloo May 4, 2016 at 10:28 am

    just a bit more on politics…then I will give it a rest…I know I will not change anyone’s mind, but when you are completely powerless , you have to at least vent…I have never been more disappointed in my country or those that vote than I am now. There is no more Republican party. I am no longer a Republican. They have pulled the rug from under me (and everyone else) one too many times. Heck, look at what that loser gov Nation Deal has done, first vetoing the religious liberty law, cuz..money. (If the morons that are in power in Georgia, NC, Mississippi, Arkansas, etc had only voted at the SAME TIME , there would have been strength in numbers, but no…each state voted at different times so they could easily be picked off one by one the pc police…)
    Then the dink vetoed conceal carry bill on college campuses cuz…the children
    THERE ARE NO CONSERVATIVES ANYMORE. Just some that pretend to be one come election time….
    What I said in a political group I am a part of on facebook….
    I have held my nose voting for the NON-conservative John McCain and the NON-Conservative (father of Obamacare) Mitt Romney. begged, PLEADED with folks to vote for them cuz…lesser of two evils! Well, Zero won both times. Now, the “Republicans” voted for the lifelong Liberal Democrat pretending to be…well, whatever worked to get votes at that time. Pretended to be religious (2 Corinthians walk into a bar, hey, My Mom had a Bible, and I never threw it away!, vote for me!) pretended to be the most militaristic candidate (but thinks Bush should have been impeached) I believe NOTHING he has ever said, except that he wants to be president…can’t believe I am saying it, but done with the Republican party . I’ll vote libertarian, for Pat Paulsen, anyone but the 2 amoral liars….

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  45. 47 Gil in Mechanicsville May 4, 2016 at 3:23 pm

    Ber, I have been an independent for most of my life. I take what every politician says with a grain of salt. At least with Hillary, you know what she is going to do. All I have to say is I hope she brings the large economy size jar of Vasoline because I know we will all get screw in the end…

    Now baseball…. Whew… This one was over early. Chacin did not have it today. About what one can expect out of a number four. Good game, bad game… Medlin gave up 6 runs to the gNats in the first inning before recording an out… Of course his defense deserted him but still, he is still just making his way back.

    I may watch the Mets vs gNats next week. Should be interesting to see how they match up.

    Braves go home, get to warm up and then face the D’Backs Friday, Saturday and Sunday. They will face Miller Saturday. My question is do they keep Mallex Smith up when they reactivate Incarte? Which one will play left field? I know pitchers like some offense in the outfield but also like for someone to catch the ball too.

    Bud Norris pitching well out of the pen. Odd isn’t it? another 3 2/3 innings of shut out ball. Maybe he is more relaxed.

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  46. 48 Vox O'Reason May 4, 2016 at 3:48 pm

    My question is do they keep Mallex Smith up when they reactivate Incarte?

    Yes, he will stay. Chase d’Arnaud will go down. And it wouldn’t surprise me at all if Tuiasasopo isn’t swapped with the newly eligible Bonifacio.

    Which one will play left field?

    Does it matter? 😉 This is one of the rare occasions this year when we can enjoy an abundance of something. If I had to guess, Mallex will remain in CF because his speed is unmatched, plus the ball flies truer to CF… easier for a rookie, so to speak. Especially one who hasn’t played much in the corner where the ball tends to hook and tail with the spin.

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  47. 49 Gil in Mechanicsville May 4, 2016 at 3:53 pm

    Perhaps the singular advantage to having the Extra Innings package is having the ability to watch a plethora of games. Currently watching the Cubs and Pirates. Two good teams…

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  48. 50 Vox O'Reason May 4, 2016 at 3:57 pm

    I’ll vote libertarian, for Pat Paulsen, anyone but the 2 amoral liars…

    Vote your conscience, Ber. But every vote for a 3rd party, or simply abstaining from voting altogether, is a half a vote for Hillary. As the great 21st century philosopher Geddy Lee said, “If you choose not to decide, you still have made a choice.”

    8 years of Barry has tossed us in the toilet. If Hillary is elected, she’ll simply pull the handle.

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  49. 51 Carolina Lady May 4, 2016 at 6:42 pm

    Entering the discussion that is so important to all of us – whoever is elected, and I’m not sure who that should be except NOT Killary, will have to conduct mass firings of many currently employed by our government. It is presently riddled with enemies of our nation. Of the choices still left to me, there is only one who can stop Clinton and Sanders, so prayer and lots of it is the solution. We have to stop putting our trust in ‘princes and men’ and put ALL of our trust in the One who actually created this country. I don’t think God is done with us yet. If the loud-mouthed liberals could be shut up for a minute, I think the world may be quite surprised at what the rest of us have to say. Ok. I’m out! 🙂

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  50. 52 Gil in Mechanicsville May 4, 2016 at 6:47 pm

    Good opine by DOB of the AJC today.

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  51. 53 Vox O'Reason May 5, 2016 at 7:40 am

    Making it difficult for people to be patient…

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  52. 54 Vox O'Reason May 5, 2016 at 7:42 am

    <a href=”http://www.milb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20160505&content_id=176335842&fext=.jsp&vkey=news_milb&tcid=tw_article_176335842″ rel=”nofollow’>Here is a nice article on the fast rising Dansby Swanson.

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  53. 55 Vox O'Reason May 5, 2016 at 7:43 am

    Crap!!!!!!! 😡

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  54. 56 Vox O'Reason May 5, 2016 at 7:43 am

    <a href=”http://www.milb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20160505&content_id=176335842&fext=.jsp&vkey=news_milb&tcid=tw_article_176335842″ rel=”nofollow”>Here is a nice article on the fast rising Dansby Swanson.

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  55. 57 Vox O'Reason May 5, 2016 at 7:43 am

    AAAAARRRRRGGGGGHHHHH!!!!!

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  56. 59 Vox O'Reason May 5, 2016 at 7:46 am

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  57. 60 Gil in Mechanicsville May 5, 2016 at 8:19 am

    Yes, it is good news. I am curious as to how Dansby compares to Albies. The guys at Mississippi would be able to tell us. I was surprised they sent this kid to A ball but I guess they have a plan, or not…

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  58. 61 Vox O'Reason May 5, 2016 at 8:37 am

    I was surprised they sent this kid to A ball but I guess they have a plan, or not…

    Yes, a plan. 2 reasons really. #1, prior to 2016, Dansby only had 22 games of professional ball under his belt. #2, they wanted to keep both he and Ozzie playing everyday at SS necessitating them being at different levels, and Ozzie was set to open at AA Mississippi having spent all of 2015 in A Rome.

    The way both these cats are playing, though, the Braves officials are going to have to make up their minds very soon which one of them is going to move to 2B.

    IMO, the team needs to get these 2 together to begin forming the long term keystone combination that will anchor the Braves for the new era. If Dansby continues his tear in AA, there’s no reason he can’t join Ozzie in AAA after the All-Star break.

    Deciding which one stays at SS is no small task. Each projects to be an above average ML SS. Each is graded as a plus defender, with Ozzie having a slightly better arm. And that might be the deciding factor.

    If it were me, I’d go ahead and get these guys together and work them on both sides of the bag, swapping them every series. It shouldn’t take too long to see which combination looks more “natural”.

    Again, it’s a great problem to have, and another rare occasion, as with Ender Inciarte and Mallex Smith, where you really don’t lose either way,

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  59. 62 Vox O'Reason May 5, 2016 at 8:42 am

    I am curious as to how Dansby compares to Albies.

    Here are their respective scouting summaries…

    Dansby Swanson:

    Scouting grades: Hit: 60 | Power: 45 | Run: 60 | Arm: 55 | Field: 55 | Overall: 60

    Thanks to his quickness, hands and arm strength, Swanson should stay at shortstop long term. He’s a very good hitter with an advanced approach at the plate. Swanson should be an average and on-base machine with the ability to steal bases. He showed more power at Vanderbilt in 2015, and he could have Major League average pop when all is said and done.

    Ozzie Albies:

    Scouting grades: Hit: 60 | Power: 20 | Run: 70 | Arm: 60 | Field: 55 | Overall: 55

    Albies has an outstanding combination of tools and makeup. He plays above-average defense at shortstop, with a ton of energy, acting as the captain of the infield. While Albies might be small in stature at 5-foot-9, he is muscular and strong and has very quick feet. At the plate, the switch-hitter has a better swing right-handed than left-handed right now, though he hit over .300 from both sides in 2015. Albies has plus speed that enables him to be a basestealing threat. It’s hard to put a ceiling on Albies. He makes those around him better and brings intangibles to the ballpark every day.

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  60. 63 Gil in Mechanicsville May 5, 2016 at 9:44 am

    Reading Shultz comments in the AJC about how the front office of the Braves have slipped to a new low. Publicly airing how they are looking to replace Fredi Gonzalez with Bud Black. I think Fredi deserves better. Sure, I’ve said it may be time for Fredi to go but he has been saddled with a motley bunch.

    Last year, after the Braves traded Urebi and Kelly Johnson, they went into free fall. There was no safety net, no stopper, nothing. They have not yet recovered. It is the front office which made this mess, not the manager.

    No power in the line up and no horses on the pitching staff make for a difficult task.

    A new manager will have benefit of all these young stars in the making. Fredi has been set up to fail. The incompetence of the front office shown through when they were unable to use Bonifacio after sending down a placer leaving the Braves short handed. Who was responsible for that? It is akin to calling a timeout when you have none left. Going to get you a technical as well as loss of possession… Poor clock management also shows a lack of experience.

    Hector Olivera show a lack of someone’s part to do due diligence. Not only did they lose two pretty good players, One being a pitcher they sorely need but they are saddled with a $32 million dollar albatross. Olivera is on paid leave. Not only are they a player short, they are paying through the nose for him. Not that I care how much money Liberty loses but it does effect the team.

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  61. 64 Vox O'Reason May 5, 2016 at 10:22 am

    I just read Schultz’s piece, and I will temper my reaction to it for a few of reasons.

    #1- Jeff Schultz is a columnist. He’s is paid to NOT be objective, but rather to have a strong opinion and to stir reaction. He does his job fairly well. But as I read further into this column, it took on the tone of a rant, a tirade. Schultz sounds angry and emotional.

    #2- Schultz has not held back showing his obvious and open disdain for Coppy, going back to the trade of Kimbrel on the eve of the 2015 season. It’s as if he took it personally and can’t let it go. He has not inked one positive word toward the front office since that point.

    #3- Schultz makes some incorrect statements about Bob Nightengale’s article, whether intentional or not. He appears to twist the article to support his rant. Here is the factual portion of Nightengale’s article: The Atlanta Braves, embarrassed over their horrific start this season, are internally discussing whether they should fire manager Fredi Gonzalez, a high-ranking Braves official told USA TODAY Sports.

    (Of course they are discussing it. I would hope they are discussing everything and everyone involved. Staying the same is not an option for a team that is 7-20.)

    The official spoke on the condition of anonymity since he was unauthorized to speak publicly about the discussions.

    I’m always a little leery of “anonymous” sources… lack of accountability and all. But that’s not what bothers me.

    Schultz makes the assertion that the front office is lurking in the shadows with some covert motive. He says: Grumble in the shadows to local media members, and hope somebody bites. Second-guess every decision. Leak a juicy narrative to national media members (where somebody will always run with it). Throw out a job candidate for a job that doesn’t even exist yet.

    Schultz does not know who the unnamed source is because he is unnamed. But it does fit his narrative to allude that it’s Coppy. Also, he states that Coppy has thrown out Bud Black’s name – “Throw out a job candidate for a job that doesn’t even exist yet”. That was Nightengale’s statement, not the “anonymous” source. Nowhere does Nightengale say that the “anonymous” source states the front office is discussing Bud Black.

    Schultz paints the picture that Coppy and Hart are working hard behind the scenes to undermine Fredi Gonzalez and to hire Bud Black. And he cites the USA Today article as the basis for his accusation. But the article doesn’t say that. Not at all.

    Schultz’s column sure looks like a bit of a hatchet job to me, but you can decide for yourself.

    Here is a link to Schultz’ column: http://jeffschultz.blog.myajc.com/2016/05/04/its-about-time-coppolella-hart-take-ownership-of-braves-problems/

    And here is a link to the USA Today article that was referenced: http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/mlb/2016/05/04/braves-manager-fredi-gonzalez-bud-black/83921076/

    I was not a big fan of Schultz anyway, but I intend to simply avoid his rants going forward. I lost alot of respect for him with this attack.

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  62. 65 Vox O'Reason May 5, 2016 at 10:35 am

    Gil, it looks like Schultz’s piece made you angry at Coppy too. Read the USA Today article and see if you agree with me that Schultz’s statements are reaching at best, and purposely twisting at worst. I don’t see one thing that supports his accusation that the front office is openly looking for a replacement for Fredi.

    I’m tellin’ ya, it’s a fairly common and benign article that bemoans the 7-20 start more than anything else.

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  63. 66 berigan2electricboogaloo May 5, 2016 at 10:37 am

    Did I say I was going to give politics a rest? Just like every politician out there…I lied 😉 I will try to be brief, then say enough…
    Vote your conscience, Ber
    And that’s my issue. My conscience just won’t let me vote for him. I saw T rump repeatedly destroy good men (Ben Carson, who sadly, like a repeatedly abused wife inexplicably comes back to the abuser) Jeb Bush (who I liked a lot before his brother was President, liked him best—then the more I heard about his polices, the less I liked him, but he didn’t deserve the personal attacks ) But, what orangeman did to Cruz would keep me from peeing on him , even if he was on fire. I have a friend I am desperately trying to keep as a friend (have you ever experienced that with any Republican candidate before?) who said on facebook after I posted a negative story on t rump (where he had said 9-11 was worse than Pearl Harbor cuz…great people died there. Who says crap like that??) saying that Cruz couldn’t even be president cuz…Canadian! Now, this guy is not a moron, he’s very smart. But…like so many t rump fans…he blindly follows him, no matter what. You know, like Obama fans do. Cruz was tarred as a serial womanizer (by t rumps good friend the CEO of the Enquirer) , a Canadian, the threat of t rump spilling the beans on his wife, and at the end, when t rump was likely to win anyway….having to hear that his Dad was somehow involved with the assassination of JFK!
    Absolutely laughable, yet it worked. Alinsky tactics tend to, sadly enough.
    I know you guys (and gal) have heard most of this stuff before…just the tip of hte iceberg. His ego’s might, just might be bigger than the dear leaders! And, he’s seen what zero has been able to get away with, and is thinking what he will be able to get away with.
    Ad to that, faux news kissing his butt for ratings, after he turned his supporters against the channel (always HATED it when lefties said that, but it’s true now) O’Reilly, Greta, and the fat faced igit Hannity will not ever…criticize him. Ok, O’Reilly will ask him a few pointed questions, but they are pals, they go to ball games together.
    I know, Hillary is a horrible human being, and a dangerous person…and liberalism is a mental disease that is only spreading…
    But, Rump is a dangerous man who cannot take ANY criticism at all (and 69% of the population has a negative view of him now, that’s going to get better how?He’s a known product too) and said things like Pelosi, Hillary and O were great…in the past….supported them and dingy Harry. He thought George Bush should have been IMPEACHED! How does someone with that viewpoint, become the candidate of the republican party? In a mad world apparently.
    I am trying to be a better Christian…I would bet all 3 of you are miles ahead of me….not that it’s a contest…just a fact…but, it’s like this weird analogy.
    I am against adultery. I say I would not fool around with a married woman. But, what if said woman was…Jessica Biel? If the woman is pretty enough, should I then say…well, ok…this time…I would hope not….
    Of course, what I think it is a real possibility is that Hillary, keeps losing to lovable commie Sanders, and that might make it easier for zero to let her be indicted, and let Elizabeth Warren(further to the left than even Hillary, but will a “righteous” anger that would connect with morons, she coined the system is rigged more than a year ago) or Clueless Joe run. Hillary is the worst candidate the Dems can run. I really think Sanders could do better than her…but, T Rumpo could still lose to her…no way could he beat Warren or Joe…sad but true….this country has changed so much in our lifetimes….God help us all…..

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  64. 67 berigan2electricboogaloo May 5, 2016 at 10:40 am

    Berigan, dude…give it a rest already! This is a baseball blog! 😛

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  65. 68 Vox O'Reason May 5, 2016 at 10:45 am

    And now MLBTR is also running with a statement made by Mark Bowman that said: But even though there is reason to question whether any manager could prove successful while dealing with these circumstances and roster weaknesses, Braves officials have been forced to at least discuss whether it makes sense to make a managerial change.

    They have taken that statement, combined it with Bob Nightengale’s same statement, and run with the headline: “Braves Have Reportedly Discussed Managerial Change”

    Does no supposed “journalist” do his own homework anymore?

    Of course not. It’s a reflection of the drive-thru society we live in. As a society, we no longer look into the actual content of any written piece. Rather, we take a headline and make a judgment. The problem with that is that headlines are written by editors, not by authors. Headlines are designed to draw attention, not to represent content. And in today’s electronic media, headlines are purposely designed as “click-bait”, intended to induce a passerby to click on the link, which is counted as “viewership” by sales weasels and used to set advertising rates to sponsors.

    It’s all about the $$.

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  66. 69 Vox O'Reason May 5, 2016 at 11:44 am

    The incompetence of the front office shown through when they were unable to use Bonifacio after sending down a placer leaving the Braves short handed.

    Agree 100%. That was an embarrassing mistake.

    Hector Olivera show a lack of someone’s part to do due diligence. Not only did they lose two pretty good players, One being a pitcher they sorely need but they are saddled with a $32 million dollar albatross. Olivera is on paid leave.

    I cannot entirely agree here.

    First, nobody could have anticipated that HO would smack around his girlfriend in a hotel room. There was reportedly no history of violent behavior prior to this incident, at least according to the reports I read (past the headline). Second, the pitcher they gave up, Alex Wood, is 1-3 on a 14-14 team with a much better offense than is assembled in ATL. He sports a 5.18 ERA and opposing batters are hitting .278 against him. He’s averaging less than 6 innings per start. We have plenty of that already. In fact, those numbers are almost the same as Jhoulys Chacin. As you said earlier, pretty much in line with a 4th starter.

    Additionally, Luis Avilan’s ERA is 40.50. Nothing else need be said there. And Jim Johnson is back with the Braves. Not sure that supports either side of the discussion, actually.

    We can debate the value of Jose Peraza at length, but the fact is that he has not cracked the major league roster in CIN, a team that is not exactly rife with stars. And he would be buried in the Braves system behind Ozzie and Dansby for any hope of making an impact here in the future.

    Finally, the fact that HO is on PAID leave nauseates me. But that is mandated by the league, not the team. And it’s driven by the CBA and supported by the MLBPA. The longer the league drags its collective feet in “investigating” the matter, the more it hurts everybody involved. And if you think this is taking along time, look at COL’s Jose Reyes. He’s been in the same doghouse for 6 months. Does that hurt Jose Reyes? Of course not. But it does hold the Rockies hostage for the duration.

    If I had the power to undo this trade, would I undo it? Short answer… yes. But it can’t be undone so we live with it. No team bats 1.000 in trades. This one was not good for the Braves for sure. But I’m not crying over losing Wood, Avilan and Peraza. I’m most upset over HO turning out to be a moral turd. That’s on him, not our front office.

    By the way, if the league’s investigation can upgrade the charges against him to felony level, then the Braves can void his contract. We should all hope and pray that they do take ample time to properly charge him.

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  67. 70 Vox O'Reason May 5, 2016 at 12:18 pm

    Earlier today I had an exchange with an associate whom I know to be a Braves “fan”. I simply asked how he was enjoying the 2016 version of the team and alluded to needing an abundance of patience.

    His statement was telling. He said “My son just mentioned going to some games last night before they close Turner Field. I asked him if he’s seen their record lately. I wonder what happened?”

    This is a guy who is a “fan”, yet he isn’t fully aware of all of the machinations in play and how deep the process reaches. I am beginning to see that most “fans” are the same, and don’t see anything past the current record and the product in Turner Field.

    Is that typical? Are we the exception over here in our little corner of the blogosphere? Am I in a very small minority that obsesses over the development of a pitcher in the Gulf Coast Rookie League who has made 3 starts, pitched 6 innings and allowed 0 runs while notching 12 K’s? (That would be Braves’ 18-year-old LHP Kolby Allard, last year’s top pick and the team’s current #5 prospect.) BTW- Young Mr. Allard possesses a fastball that sits routinely between 90-94 with “good late life”, has a plus curveball, an effective changeup that scouts say is advanced for a pitcher barely out of high school, and hides the ball well in a delivery that is likened to that of Cliff Lee. But I digress.

    I guess I expect “fans” to see everything that is taking place to return this team to prominence not just for a season or two, but for the long term. But maybe that’s not so realistic.

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  68. 71 Gil in Mechanicsville May 5, 2016 at 12:43 pm

    VOX, Your friend is a typical fan. The Yankees have legions of them… Red Sox fans tend to be a little more perceptive and insightful. I think it goes back to George Steinbrenner’s days as the owner who did not worry about player development, he would simply buy what the team needed.

    I know we have opined about Fredi’s probable dismissal here on the B&S. I think it happens the next time the Braves have a losing streak longer than four games. Maybe even the next sweep…

    Why is it no one is calling for the dismissal of AJ Hince? Record is nearly as bad with a team twice as good. Answer: Because all the moves are being called from the front office. It is fantasy baseball with real players. All about the numbers.

    I think sabermetrics can give a team real insight but it cannot be a sole source because baseball is a game played by human beings and human beings break down as well as step up. Even the guy who is one for ten could get that one hit when it makes a difference.

    Sabermetrics tells us that strike outs don’t matter.. Bulls**t… It makes a difference when a guy is on base with less than two outs. Contact in such a situation will often result in a run. Oh well… day off, rain here… bah

    And Ber, don’t worry, you can vent. That falls under the heading of stuff…

    As for Fox fawning over Trump, well, the took their cue from NBC and their bias for anything Democrat.

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  69. 72 Vox O'Reason May 5, 2016 at 12:46 pm

    Joel Sherman, New York Post: “[Fredi] Gonzalez said he had just gotten off the phone with general manager John Coppolella and said he told his boss: “There are only three outcomes: 1) Fire me. 2) Give me a vote of confidence through the rest of the season. 3) Pick up my 2017 option. … I am good with any of this.”

    #1, This is how you post something with credible named sources. Thank you Joel Sherman for being a real journalist.

    #2, Isn’t it interesting that the NYPost has this story, and not the AJC? Speaks to just how bad the local fishwrapper is.

    #3, Did Fredi just issue an ultimatum to his boss? Frustrated or not, that wasn’t really bright. If you ask me, he is kind of asking to be fired with this action. Seriously.

    #4, Sherman goes on to say “I spoke with Coppolella, and he mainly did not want to discuss the status of his manager.” Kind of contradicts the agenda Jeff Schultz is pushing, but whatever…

    Here’s the link to the NYPost article: http://nypost.com/2016/05/04/braves-are-going-to-fire-fredi-gonzalez-soon-but-then-what/

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  70. 73 Vox O'Reason May 5, 2016 at 12:51 pm

    I think sabermetrics can give a team real insight but it cannot be a sole source

    I concur. It’s a tool. It’s probably even a little more valuable than I have given it credit for in the past. But it’s only one tool in the tool box. It isn’t the complete picture.

    Why is it no one is calling for the dismissal of AJ Hince?

    Good question. It’s just fashionable to kick the Braves right now.

    And Ber, don’t worry, you can vent. That falls under the heading of stuff…

    Yep.

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  71. 74 Vox O'Reason May 5, 2016 at 1:01 pm

    I know we have opined about Fredi’s probable dismissal here on the B&S. I think it happens the next time the Braves have a losing streak longer than four games. Maybe even the next sweep…

    If Fredi truly gave Coppy the aforementioned ultimatum, he may not be in the dugout tomorrow night. But who can blame him? The media has turned up the heat and the pressure. If the intent was to support Fredi, it was misguided. It has done more to hurt him that even the team’s sagging performance.

    As for me, I’ve said it before. No manager could take this batch of ingredients and make a gourmet entree. But maybe he could at least make something edible.

    I continue to question Fredi’s in game decisions and his handling of the bullpen. Regardless of the talent he’s given, he still has to do his job capably. I cannot get on board with many of his decisions. I won’t cry when he’s dismissed. And I won’t expect the team to make a 180 degree turn when it happens.

    The problem is going to be that the “drive-by media” will center it’s sights on the team’s record alone, when there is much more to the story. Perception is often reality when it comes to the way many “fans” will react. And the current climate surrounding the whole circus can easily be harmful to the front office going forward in the current process.

    I miss the days when the media reported the news instead of creating it.

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  72. 75 Vox O'Reason May 5, 2016 at 2:05 pm

    Here’s a pleasant diversion from the Fredi stuff…

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  73. 76 Gil in Mechanicsville May 5, 2016 at 3:40 pm

    I had read the story on Maitan. They pundits talked about him this morning on MLB Network about how high an upside this kid has. Hopefully, the Braves can continue to secure top flight talent. Not that anyone is going to make an immediate impact. Just not going to happen.

    Still comes down to pitching. I am watching the Phillies vs Cardinals game. Currently 1-0 Cards in the bottom of the seventh. That may change shortly as the Birds have the bases loaded with no outs.

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  74. 77 Gil in Mechanicsville May 5, 2016 at 3:40 pm

    2-0 with one out… Garcia just hit a sac fly.

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  75. 78 Vox O'Reason May 5, 2016 at 4:02 pm

    Not that anyone is going to make an immediate impact. Just not going to happen.

    Nope, but if you don’t have it in the pipeline, then you turn around in a few years and look like the 2014 Braves – mediocre, old and nothing on the horizon.

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  76. 79 Vox O'Reason May 5, 2016 at 4:31 pm

    Ya know, in light of all the discussion today on this blog, across the interwebs, and on the radio about the Fredi firing speculation, here’s what I’d like to see happen:

    I’d like to see Coppy take the podium and take Fredi’s #2 option: Give him a vote of confidence through the rest of the season.

    You all know how I feel about his in game management, but I have grown quite irritated with all the talking heads picking the low hanging fruit and assuming he’s about to be fired.

    Plus, I’d think he does deserve a reward for being a loyal company guy. I also think he is doing a fine job in the area of developing the youngsters. So in that vein, let’s allow him to finish out the season, then move him into the front office in a personnel development capacity.

    Win/win… so to speak.

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  77. 80 Gil in Mechanicsville May 5, 2016 at 5:52 pm

    That said VOX, I will be surprised if Fredi is in the dugout when the Braves take the field tomorrow. I think Coppy has painted himself into a corner.

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  78. 81 berigan2electricboogaloo May 5, 2016 at 6:44 pm

    my main concern with the Dodgers trade was trading the top prospect in the organization (if Phillips was normal, and wanted to go to a winning team before he retired, Paraza would likely start) and a young, controllable lefty for…a 30-31 UNPROVEN hitter…if that’s the best you can get these days for a pitcher and prospect…the braves will have a tough time getting anything for any pitchers til they are long proven in the big leagues…not just 4-5 starts

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  79. 82 Vox O'Reason May 5, 2016 at 11:30 pm

    if Phillips was normal, and wanted to go to a winning team before he retired, Paraza would likely start

    Actually, the Reds project Alex Blandino as the successor to Phillips at 2B, and the Reds are playing Peraza back at SS in Louisville. But the Reds have Zack Cozart entrenched there in Cincinnati, so…

    Keith Law removed Peraza from his Top 100 prospect list in 2016 after listing him 24th in 2015. When asked why the snub, Law replied, “A second baseman with no power and a .316 OBP is not someone who belongs on a top 100. The reports from the past year were worse than the year before, and now with two years gone from shortstop, the odds of him being able to return there seem quite slim.”

    His days as an elite prospect are gone and his role in the Major Leagues is unclear. It’s not a major loss to the Braves organization.

    HO is for certain a complete dud as an Atlanta Brave. But we didn’t lose anything to the Dodgers to lose sleep over. In fact, if it’s possible to have a “lose/lose” deal, this was it.

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  80. 83 berigan2electricboogaloo May 6, 2016 at 1:57 am

    I think all the way around, Peraza has been…screwed by the “experts” on the braves, then Dodgers….First, he’s a SS, but…Everyone knew Simmons was gonna wear a braves uni for 15 years, so they moved him to….everywhere. 2nd base and CF with the Braves, and 2nd base, CF with the Dodgers, and even 7 games at SS…then he got traded to the Reds in the off-season.
    But, I am sure super lib Law is correct…I mean, Peraza just turned 22…a week ago! That’s right, he was 21 all last year , and into April. but, there is no way an aged man like that can possibly learn SS again. Just not possible. :/
    in 2014, at the age of 20…he hit .335 for the year between A+ and AA. Stole 60 bases. Sounds like a “can’t Miss” kinda guy…Then, he had to learn 2 new positions, and hit. Really sucked last year in the minors, hit only .293. Surprised the Dodgers didn’t just release him, his OBP was low. Every SS from Venezuela is a born OBP machine I seem to recall 😕
    Thing is, when he was traded, at 21, he was still considered a pretty good player…and to trade for a twerp from Cuba who was often injured and…have I ever mentioned this before? A DECADE older, cuz the team was too cheap to just “buy” him , so they bought him later for half the money and 2 young, controllable players…Alex Wood will be fine as long as his arm is ok. Peraza will be a ML starter, in 1 to 3 years (V, I bet you a root beer on that! 😉 )
    H.O. will be soon able to drive his pimped out ride 24/7 after the braves once again laughably try to trade a player no one will want, and will eat 30+ Million once again….

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  81. 84 berigan2electricboogaloo May 6, 2016 at 2:19 am

    No one asked, or likely wanted to know, but this year Peraza is hitting .287 .333. Can’t seem to steal anymore, 2 steals, caught 4 times. Guess he is slowing down…
    DOB doesn’t seem to like the idea of F.G. being fired…

    David O’Brien ‏@DOBrienAJC 13h13 hours ago

    So I’m clear: Illogical to give extension to manager at ’15 AS break, say he did well, then fire him month into season w/these circumstances

    someone sure dropped the ball on this….Coppy should have talked to Hart, or the homeboy upstairs on how to handle a situation like this…

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  82. 85 Vox O'Reason May 6, 2016 at 8:10 am

    DOB doesn’t seem to like the idea of F.G. being fired…

    Yep, and believe it or not, I agree with his reasoning.

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  83. 86 Vox O'Reason May 6, 2016 at 8:17 am

    someone sure dropped the ball on this….Coppy should have talked to Hart, or the homeboy upstairs on how to handle a situation like this…

    I’m not convinced anyone is getting fired. I’ve read an awful lot on this in the last day or so. Most of the hype is built around media speculation, overreaching imagination and nothing concrete from anyone involved.

    Jeff Schultz is chief among them. Clearly has an axe to grind.

    I will guarantee you one thing. Should Fredi get fired, the national media will move on from ATL to the next unhealthy horse and start kicking it. Maybe AJ Hinch or even Joe Girardi. They’ll find a scab to pick at until it bleeds.

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  84. 87 Vox O'Reason May 6, 2016 at 8:17 am

    Oh, and Ber…

    We’ll probably always disagree on Peraza and that’s OK. Still buds.

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  85. 88 Gil in Mechanicsville May 6, 2016 at 10:15 am

    Morning folks. I will admit, Ber has been consistent in his criticism of the two trades made by Coppy. First trading away Perazza and Woods and then Simmons. No flip flopper is he.

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  86. 89 Vox O'Reason May 6, 2016 at 12:20 pm

    As to SImmons trade, Erick Aybar aside, the trade brought back our current #2 prospect in LHP Sean Newcomb and #14 prospect in RHP Chris Ellis.

    Sean Newcomb:

    Scouting grades: Fastball: 70 | Curveball: 60 | Changeup: 50 | Control: 45 | Overall: 60

    An elite-level pitching prospect, one not that far from helping out in the big leagues. There were readings of Newcomb’s fastball touching triple digits in 2015 and he’ll sit in the 94-97 mph range. Big and physical, he maintains that velocity and does so without too much effort. Newcomb’s curve has become a plus pitch, one that misses plenty of bats. His changeup gives him a third at least Major League average offering. Major league comp: Jon Lester

    Chris Ellis:

    Scouting grades: Fastball: 55 | Slider: 55 | Changeup: 50 | Control: 45 | Overall: 50

    The Angels pushed Ellis in his first full season after taking him in the third round of the 2014 Draft and he spent half the year in Double-A as a result. The 6-foot-5 right-hander has two above-average pitches in his fastball and slider. While the heater sits at around 92 mph, it plays up because of its life. His power slider has shown the ability to miss bats. His changeup should give him a third Major League offering. Ellis has the size, strength and repertoire to succeed as a starter, though a move to the bullpen – where he pitched his first two years at the University of Mississippi – would allow his fastball-slider combination to play up even more.

    As much as I like Ellis, Newcomb has the potential to be a top-of-the-rotation starter… a big lefty with plenty of juice on his fastball and a big ol’ hook. Remember when Cole Hamels used to chew us up with that same combination? That’s a rare commodity, and one the Braves couldn’t pass up. I couldn’t give two rips about Erick Aybar, getting Newcomb and Ellis makes the deal still work for me.

    I understand that it’s tough watching Aybar and associating him alone with the trade because the other two guys are not in our current frame of reference. But have patience my friends. Both of these two guys are going to help this team fairly soon. We’ll likely see Ellis sooner, and most likely as a setup kind of guy. Pairing him with Viz would give the team a formidable 8th/9th combination.

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  87. 90 Vox O'Reason May 6, 2016 at 12:36 pm

    Offensively Andrelton Simmons is slashing only .215/.236/.280 in the first 28 games of 2016. For his career, he’s at .253/.300/.358, but trending down. That’s the thing you have to analyze… the trend. (It’s exactly what all the anti-Melvin people told us when the Braves overpaid for him in FA.)

    We all know he’s the best defensive SS on the planet. No argument there. And for most managers, his defense more than makes up for his offense. OK, I’m cool with that.

    But the Braves top two position prospects are both SS, or eventually SS/2B. They had to clear the path for both, and getting two top prospects, one of them considered “elite”, was the right thing to do. Simba’s value was never going to be as high as it was when the deal was done. If the team was going all in on the rebuild, and they obviously were, then they had to make that deal.

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  88. 91 Vox O'Reason May 6, 2016 at 12:38 pm

    And now for something completely different:

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  89. 92 Vox O'Reason May 6, 2016 at 12:40 pm

    For the record, I like Buddy Carlyle as a coach. He was a “wily and crafty” veteran pitcher who was around a while and around alot of different coaches and managers. He strikes me as a dude with a ton of baseball knowledge.

    He might make a good bullpen coach one day, wink wink.

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  90. 93 Gil in Mechanicsville May 6, 2016 at 4:31 pm

    Also replaces the under achieving dude currently calling the replay shots. I cannot remember the name of the guy who was stuck in the bowls of every stadium reviewing replays but it was a name guy. Former big leaguer. Help me out fellows…

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  91. 94 Gil in Mechanicsville May 6, 2016 at 4:36 pm

    Horacio Ramirez.. never mind

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  92. 95 Vox O'Reason May 6, 2016 at 4:45 pm

    Horacio did it last year, but left to go pitch in Mexico this year. The guy who was in charge of it this year is the team’s video coordinator Rob Smith. Looks like he has been relieved of this task in favor of Buddy.

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  93. 96 Vox O'Reason May 6, 2016 at 4:54 pm

    Coppy speaks to DOB today, and is fairly transparent,,.

    https://t.co/mULqDT7isi

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  94. 97 Gil in Mechanicsville May 7, 2016 at 8:14 am

    Ugly game last night by the Bad News Braves. Questionable call by the official scorer on awarding a hit on a ball which hit Adonis in the glove. Then gave an error to Brinac on one which ticked off his glove.

    Adonis has been sent down to make room for Incarte. I guess if you are not going to hit, you may as well go somewhere your glove can hide. Drive in more than you let in is the mantra.

    The Fredi G death watch continues… It surprised me he was in the dugout last night but I suspect this home stand will be the clincher.

    Pretty amazing play by the Arizona catcher on Aybar. For a guy who is fast, he sure does get thrown out a lot.

    I think June first is going to be moving day for a bunch of players.

    Brignac must look like Roger Dorne of Major Leagues.. At least he is getting in front of the ball.

    CL had a close call with nature. Glad she and Kelly dodged a twister. I guess nowhere is safe is it CL? Just have to hunker down. OZ isn’t such a great place to visit right now… On the positive side, lots of firewood to be had…

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  95. 98 Carolina Lady May 7, 2016 at 11:05 am

    Gil, that thing went straight over us. Some damage to one end of the house, major damage in both front and back yards. Kelly & I took refuge in a small, center-of-the-house bathroom while it roared over us. The sound and noise almost defy description. Kelly’s bedroom window was open (thankfully) because the pressure change was so drastic and so sudden, it blew the access hatch to the attic open and up into the attic. Otherwise, I think we’d have probably lost the roof. Kelly & I prayed while we held on to each other and God heard us. The tornado may have surprised everybody, but it didn’t surprise God! F1, winds @95 mph. Like having a 45-second Cat2 hurricane.

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  96. 99 Vox O'Reason May 7, 2016 at 11:41 am

    Holy smokes CL & Kelly!!! Really brings a healthy dose of perspective to our daily grumbling about the bumbling.

    Glad y’all are well. God is good!!

    As to baseball, I missed it all last night. I suppose I should be thankful for that also. The move to send Adonis down is both gutsy and correct. I think we have seen the best of him, and it isn’t ML quality.

    I’ve reversed course on Fredi over the last couple of days. I am a little ticked at the national media making their hay over the Braves woes. And I’m a little impressed at how Fredi keeps on keeping on in the face of alot of flying bullets.

    I heard on a radio show this morning that Fredi told a local reporter he understands the business of baseball, but he sure hopes he’s still around to see some of these talented youngsters come up and contribute.

    That’s a refreshingly honest statement in a culture of cliches and facades.

    I’d like to see him stick around for it too, and I’d like to see him have success and stick it in alot of people’s faces… my own included.

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  97. 100 Vox O'Reason May 7, 2016 at 11:47 am

    BTW- Going with some friends to see the AAA Braves tonight. Tyrell Jenkins is on the mound for us. I can’t wait to see him pitch in person. My friend is the head baseball coach at our local high school, and one of his former pitchers, Chris Beck, is on the mound for the Charlotte team (CHW). I suppose I’ll be rooting for both pitchers until Beck comes out, and then I hope our G-Braves knock the cover off the ball.

    I’m also looking forward to seeing Ozzie in person. You can be assured of a complete report at some time… maybe after Mothers Day, though.

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  98. 101 Vox O'Reason May 7, 2016 at 11:50 am

    I see that the Astros have sent our old buddy Evan Gattis down to AA to re-learn how to catch. Hope he learns well…

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  99. 102 Carolina Lady May 7, 2016 at 3:22 pm

    David O’Brien @DOBrienAJC
    #Braves prospect Max Fried has 23 strikeouts (12 BB) in 23 IP at low-A Rome, topped out 97 mph last week. Missed nearly 2 seasons TJ rehab.

    David O’Brien ‏@DOBrienAJC 2h2 hours ago
    #Dbacks starter Shelby Miller’s 8.49 ERA would be worst among MLB starters if had enough innings to qualify; been knocked out too early

    David O’Brien ‏@DOBrienAJC 2h2 hours ago
    Williams Perez pitched a 1-hit shutout last night for Triple-A Gwinnett #Braves, with 1 BB and 7 K.

    David O’Brien ‏@DOBrienAJC 2h2 hours ago
    #Braves Wisler’s .175 opp avg tied w/Jaime Garcia for 2nd among NL starters, behind Arrieta (.142), ahead of Nola (.176), Kershaw (.182)

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  100. 103 vaquietlife May 7, 2016 at 4:10 pm

    CL, Williams Perez is a perfect example of the Peter Principle. That is, everyone will eventualy rise to their level of incompetence. He is still young but at this point, he is a quad A pitcher. It takes a while for these kids to understand that major league hitters can turn around a fast bll in a New York minute. That is real major league hitters, not guys like Adonis…

    Freddie was right, Adonis played hitter. I think Fredi felt like if he was going to go doen with the ship, he was going to do it with his best deck hands.

    Yes, it is okay if we dump on Fredi but it’s not alright for strangers to do it. Besides, it is not really his fault. We might moan a groan but unless you have the horses, you cannot expect to ride.

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  101. 104 Gil in Mechanicsville May 7, 2016 at 9:28 pm

    Julio looked like he did not want to throw a pitch inside tonight. Was that the game plan? If so, it caused Teheran to throw a bunch of pitches. Bud Norris promptly walks the lead off guy and then a double by ex Braves farm hand Dreuy.

    After Miller escaped the 2nd inning jam with the bases loaded and no outs giving up only one run, he has looked like the guy Arizona wanted. Maybe Miller only pitches well in Atlanta?

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  102. 105 berigan2electricboogaloo May 8, 2016 at 3:26 am

    David O’Brien ‏@DOBrienAJC 2h2 hours ago
    #Dbacks starter Shelby Miller’s 8.49 ERA would be worst among MLB starters if had enough innings to qualify; been knocked out too early

    And like a lot of pitchers, he got magically well in the Ted…oh well…

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  103. 106 Gil in Mechanicsville May 8, 2016 at 9:15 am

    So. is it the Ted or the team the Braves are putting on the field. When the Braves let Shelby wiggle off the hook in the second inning last night with scoring one run after loading the bases with no outs, I knew Miller would get energized.

    If the Braves have the same caliber of talent on the field when the new stadium opens I feel the results will be the same. At least the new place won’t look as empty. We will find out how good the acoustics are pretty quickly I suspect.

    At least we will have a new middle infield and likely a new third baseman and catcher when the 2017 team makes its debut.

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  104. 107 Gil in Mechanicsville May 8, 2016 at 9:19 am

    Oh, and the Cubs sweep the gNats. Did anyone expect that? They don’t look so spry when Harper is struggling do they? I’m sure Bryce is scanning the schedule to learn when the Braves are coming to DC.

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  105. 108 Vox O'Reason May 8, 2016 at 7:49 pm

    Well, the game I went to last night seems to be an anomaly. Rio Ruiz didn’t get a hit, Ozzie Albies didn’t get a hit. But I’ll say this much, the opposing pitcher, Chris Beck, looked really good for 7 innings.

    Our pitcher, Tyrell Jenkins, is pretty dang impressive, but pretty dang inconsistent. Then the bullpen got involved and the place went up in flames. Brandon Cunniff was tossing batting practice.

    Hard to make any assessments on hitting given the effectiveness of Beck, but I will say that Ozzie is smooth as silk at SS.

    Oh, and Gordon Beckham looks ready to return to me.

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  106. 109 berigan2electricboogaloo May 9, 2016 at 2:14 am

    Gil, it’s hard for Harper to be to productive when the Cubbies(Joe Madden) walked him…13 times, 13 times! in a 3 game series…6 walks in an extra inning game (that the cubs won, so it paid off)
    Oh, that was a record too….13 walks in 3 games
    V, Ozzie may need a bit more seasoning , he has played less than 200 games in the minors (did anyone read that Gammon’s article I posted about players from Curacao and Aruba while knowing several languages so that aspect of playing here is easier compared to players from central and South America, they only play 40 or so games a year..for some reason…how even American kids play 100 games a year over 12 months in showcases, etc….for some reason-so the Andruw Jones of the world are freaks) he was 4 for 28 for a .143 ave, then got 3 hits yesterday, so now up to .213…Dansby may pass him just by experience alone….

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  107. 110 berigan2electricboogaloo May 9, 2016 at 2:21 am

    by comparison, I just checked on Rio Ruiz…21 til of this month, he has still managed to play 440 games…
    Here’s a question for use guys….
    Rio Ruiz is a big guy, but not much power yet. 31 homers total in the minors, only 2 this year…Can the braves really have an infield with only F.F. providing power?
    M Smith isn’t going to hit many homers…Inciarte has 10 homers in 959 ML A.B’s
    Nick M has no homers this year(but is driving in runs)
    as of now, no catcher on the horizon, and not much pop from that position this year….
    So….where is the power going to come from? who will have to be traded away eventually?

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  108. 111 berigan2electricboogaloo May 9, 2016 at 7:43 am

    I forgot to mention, but if anyone missed Folty he was ON! Best I can recall him pitchering…heh, or pitching…text is filling in slllloooowwwllly…
    should be a word though

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  109. 112 Vox O'Reason May 9, 2016 at 7:56 am

    Dansby may pass him just by experience alone….

    Funny you say that. I kind of had that thought myself, that maybe they jump Dansby straight from AA around the mid-point of the season if he continues his barrage on minor league hitting.

    I don’t think it’s probable, but I do think it’s possible.

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  110. 113 Vox O'Reason May 9, 2016 at 8:05 am

    Rio Ruiz is a big guy, but not much power yet. 31 homers total in the minors, only 2 this year…Can the braves really have an infield with only F.F. providing power?

    This is what the scouts say about Rio: “With a smooth swing from the left side and excellent plate discipline, Ruiz should hit for average. He also has more power than he’s shown thus far. He goes very well to left-center, and the Braves don’t want to take that away from him, but they were working on getting him to tap into his pull power a little more consistently.”

    So….where is the power going to come from? who will have to be traded away eventually?

    I’ll bet my favorite Braves jersey (that I’ve been wearing for almost 15 years) that they will trade for power this offseason. They could possibly look at the FA offerings, but it isn’t a particularly strong class, and they team has proven to be quite wary of FA since being infected with the Melvin virus.

    If Julio can put another 2-3 strong outings together in a row, I think he’s a goner.

    And of course there are a number of minor league arms that could come into play (not named Newcomb, Fried or Allard).

    And this may not be popular, but they could also trade one of either Ender Inciarte or Mallex Smith. Could do it. I suppose it all depends on the right match for power.

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  111. 114 Vox O'Reason May 9, 2016 at 8:08 am

    pitchering…heh, or pitching…text is filling in slllloooowwwllly…
    should be a word though

    I agree. It’s actually a little more specific. Julio Teheran is a pitcher. Bartolo Colon is a pitcherer. John Smoltz was a pitcher. Greg Maddux was a pitcherer.

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  112. 115 Vox O'Reason May 9, 2016 at 8:19 am

    Bowman: There was speculation a change was either going to be made late last week or on Monday, when the Braves enjoy an off-day ahead of a three-game set that begins against the Phillies on Tuesday. But over the past few days, it seems Atlanta has become more receptive to giving Gonzalez at least a couple more weeks to compete against a kinder schedule and a roster that now includes Ender Inciarte, the energetic outfielder who returned on Saturday from a month-long absence caused by a strained left hamstring.

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  113. 116 Vox O'Reason May 9, 2016 at 8:20 am

    Of course, getting swept by ARI doesn’t exactly help that argument much.

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  114. 117 berigan2electricboogaloo May 9, 2016 at 8:25 am

    I’ll bet my favorite Braves jersey (that I’ve been wearing for almost 15 years) that they will trade for power this offseason. They could possibly look at the FA offerings, but it isn’t a particularly strong class, and they team has proven to be quite wary of FA since being infected with the Melvin virus.

    If Julio can put another 2-3 strong outings together in a row, I think he’s a goner.

    so….this offseason or in a few weeks? Remember, you just bet you favorite Braves jersey! 😆
    More coffee needed? 😉

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  115. 118 berigan2electricboogaloo May 9, 2016 at 8:28 am

    Of course, getting swept by ARI doesn’t exactly help that argument much.

    Nope, sure doesn’t…they may just have to put FG out of his misery…..
    Wonder if T.P. doesn’t want to manage this club…why do we hear other names. instead of his? wouldn’t he be the logical top choice???

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  116. 119 Vox O'Reason May 9, 2016 at 9:02 am

    Of course, this was one night after I attended the game and saw him go 0-4. It must be me…

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  117. 120 Vox O'Reason May 9, 2016 at 9:13 am

    so….this offseason or in a few weeks? Remember, you just bet you favorite Braves jersey!😆
    More coffee needed?😉

    Combination answer. I think they’ll trade for power this offseason and I think if Julio could string together some consistency, he’s gone. We have multiple needs (catcher, 3B, LF, etc.) that can be addressed in both the short term and long term.

    Catcher is probably one of the items that could be addressed sooner than later. There are a number of good C prospects that are either blocked or paired with another within their own organization. For instance, PIT has a couple of C prospects both in the Top 10. SF has a nice Top 10 prospect, seemingly blocked by Buster Posey.

    And yes, I need more coffee. Definitely.

    Anyway, that’s what I have to say about that. 😉

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  118. 121 Vox O'Reason May 9, 2016 at 12:15 pm

    Figured as much. Chase d’Arnaud is likely the guy sent down.

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  119. 122 Vox O'Reason May 9, 2016 at 12:22 pm

    … or there’s that. 😛

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  120. 123 Vox O'Reason May 9, 2016 at 12:47 pm

    Breaking ahead of the Braves beat reporters…

    MLBTR: The Indians announced today that they have traded catcher Anthony Recker to the Braves in exchange for cash considerations. The former Mets backstop will begin his return to the NL East at Triple-A Gwinnett, per the announcement. ESPN New York’s Adam Rubin tweets that Recker had an opt-out clause in his minor league deal looming.

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  121. 124 Vox O'Reason May 9, 2016 at 12:48 pm

    Not an earth shattering move, but you gotta do something, and that’s at least something.

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  122. 125 Vox O'Reason May 9, 2016 at 12:49 pm

    Add’l info courtesy of MLBTR:

    Recker, 32, spent the previous three seasons with the Mets organization and seen significant in the Majors from 2013-15, appearing in 140 games. In that time, Recker totaled 432 plate appearances and batted a combined .190/.256/.350 with 15 home runs. Recker is a considerably more accomplished hitter at the Triple-A level, though, where he’s batted .274/.361/.481 in 1428 plate appearances, including a .246/.395/.426 start to the 2016 season with Triple-A Columbus. He’ll serve as a depth option for the Braves, who currently have A.J. Pierzynski and Tyler Flowers catching at the big league level. Interestingly, Atlanta already has multiple catchers with minor league track records at the Triple-A level in the form of Ryan Lavarnway and Blake Lalli, though Lalli has seen quite a bit of time at first base this season in addition to his time behind the dish.

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  123. 126 Vox O'Reason May 9, 2016 at 12:52 pm

    Looking at his stats, he’s not a very good hitter. And he’s had enough time in both the upper minors and the majors to have reached his ceiling. I can’t imagine that the Braves think they can fix him… has to be for depth only.

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  124. 127 Vox O'Reason May 9, 2016 at 1:54 pm

    Hmmm… I wonder if it’s a precursor to something going on regarding Ryan Lavarnway, either going up for some reason or going away in a deal…. obviously as a throw in.

    Of course, that’s just my overactive imagination working. But one has to wonder why the Braves would bother bringing Recker on board…

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  125. 128 Vox O'Reason May 9, 2016 at 1:56 pm

    One might also wonder why the Indians would make the announcement about the move earlier today, and the Braves have mentioned nothing. Nor have any of the beat writers.

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  126. 129 Vox O'Reason May 9, 2016 at 2:44 pm

    Finally someone in Braves Country acknowledges the acquisition. Still seems a little weird to me.

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  127. 130 Vox O'Reason May 9, 2016 at 2:57 pm

    Here’s the thing…

    The Braves are off to a historically horrific start to the 2016 campaign. They are on a pace to finish with the worst record in MLB ever. In all of MLB… EVER.

    After last season’s grease fire, Coppy and Hart both assured us that would never happen again. That would be last season’s 67-95.

    Currently they are 7-23.

    Now I’m not a mathematician, nor did I stay in a Holiday Inn Express last night, but I can look at those numbers and see that in order for the Braves to show even a 1 game improvement over last season would mean that they have to go 61-71 the rest of the way. And as the team is currently constituted, I just can’t see that happening.

    Something’s got to give. Something’s got to happen. Something’s got to change.

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  128. 131 Gil in Mechanicsville May 9, 2016 at 6:01 pm

    Hi guys, just checked in to see if Fredie G was still managing the team. Guess so… Anthony Recker? Minor league moves coming… Just shuffling the deck.

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  129. 132 Carolina Lady May 9, 2016 at 6:12 pm

    I think they need a whole new deck!

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  130. 133 berigan2electricboogaloo May 9, 2016 at 7:42 pm

    The Braves are off to a historically horrific start to the 2016 campaign. They are on a pace to finish with the worst record in MLB ever. In all of MLB… EVER.

    After last season’s grease fire, Coppy and Hart both assured us that would never happen again. That would be last season’s 67-95.

    Currently they are 7-23.

    And what exactly made them think things would be better this year? Did they really think AJ, at 39-40 was going to hit .300 again? that Adonis was going to magically keep hitting homers at a record pace? That Aybar was going to turn around the .220 or so he hit for the 2nd half of last year? That yet another pen chuck full of rejects was going to be better this year? H.O might have hit 15-20 HR’s but, you know what? Most last place teams have a few guys that can do that….this team…doesn’t…
    The Rotation…I think I can speak for everyone else here…it will be just fine…it will take time…but not the issue…
    Mets, Marlins, Phils(somehow) Nats, all have better hitters….better pens…so explain to me how this team was going to improve upon 67 wins?

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  131. 134 Vox O'Reason May 9, 2016 at 8:25 pm

    Bummer for him. I incurred the same injury from a collision while making a tag at 3B. Dude tried to knock the ball out of my glove with his shouder. He did not succeed. But I did suffer the thumb injury as a result. (As an aside, I didn’t even know the injury had happened. I was so mad at the bush league play, that I threw off my glove and tried to fight him. But my teammates prevented it and kept me in the game. When I went back to the dugout and grabbed my bat – I was up 2nd in the inning – I noticed something was wrong with my grip.)

    With a few rolls of trainers’ tape and alot of ibuprofen, I finished the Summer 2 season… and the Fall season. Then I went to the doc. Because of the long delay, I hampered my chance at a complete reattachment. But that’s ok. On the bright side, I can do some pretty cool things with my thumb that most people can’t do… and make some people almost pass out watching. 😀

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  132. 135 Vox O'Reason May 10, 2016 at 8:55 am

    So tonight we open up a can of 3 games against the formerly futile Phillies. Is this an opportunity for us to “get well” much like the Snakes “got well” in Atlanta?

    Well, we send Matt Wisler, Jhoulys Chacin and Aaron Blair to the mound… which I can live with although there might be a bit of pressure on Chacin. All he has to do is look over his shoulder at Bud Norris to see that the team will not exhibit the same level of patience with the re-treads that is has with the young’uns… and that’s how it should be.

    But the starting pitching is not the concern. The bullpen is only a concern if the starters get run early, exposing the lack of bullpen depth. If we have to rely on Alexi Ogando, Eric O’Flaherty and Jim Johnson to keep us in games, we’re in trouble. I’m not quite sure why there is greater patience with the re-treads in the bullpen. I would have already shown those 3 the door, but that’s just me.

    All that said, that’s not where the real concerns are with me as we go into the City of Brotherly Shove. Where will the offense come from? Will the little bandbox help us drive in some runs? Even the addition of Gordon Beckham back into the lineup won’t increase the power output. Until we figure out a way to knock a few out we’ll continue to struggle. And it isn’t just the power outage. It’s the lack of respect from pitchers. They will keep challenging our hitters with their best pitches until someone begins to make them pay.

    You know how a big inning lets a pitcher “settle in” and pitch comfortably with a lead? Well, that’s how every opposing pitcher pitches against our punchless lineup. No stress. Cool runnings, mon.

    In my opinion, one big threatening bat could transform the entire lineup. We can get on, we just can’t get around.

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  133. 136 Gil in Mechanicsville May 10, 2016 at 8:55 am

    That really sucks for Simba but at least now he will get it fixed. I think it has been an issue with him for a while. Likely it was already partially torn and he just finished it off.

    Ber, you make some excellent points. The Braves do have all the makings of a strong pitching staff now. Even the bullpen has light at the end of the tunnel potential. I would think the Braves would look to thirdbase as the most likely power potential, I also would have to think that Markais would be the guy most likely to be moved add power to the line up.

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  134. 137 Vox O'Reason May 10, 2016 at 9:06 am

    Do you realize that this time next year we could be talking about a pitching rotation that includes Matt Wisler, Mike Foltynewicz, Aaron Blair, [a veteran lefty] and either Lucas Sims or Tyrell Jenkins?

    I remain strong in my gut feeling that Julio Teheran is not long for Atlanta. He’s the best centerpiece candidate to acquire a bat if he can just string together about 3 strong outings. And quite honestly, I prefer our up-and-comers anyway.

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  135. 138 Vox O'Reason May 10, 2016 at 11:24 am

    Braves have called up LHRP Ian Krol, per Rosey and confirmed by DOB.

    Now… Hunter Cervenka has been lights out. I mean really lights out. He hasn’t allowed an earned run since signing with the Braves out of the Indy League. Not 1 single run across any level.

    So, does the Krol callup mean the end of EOF in ATL? It should unless he’s hurt. That’s a possibility, I suppose.

    Anyway, the corresponding move has not been announced yet, but it has to be EOF, right?

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  136. 139 Vox O'Reason May 10, 2016 at 11:28 am

    Krol hasn’t been dominating in AAA, but he has held LH batters to 3-for-22 w/ 10 K & 0 BB in 12.1 IP. He should serve as the lefty specialist out of the ‘pen.

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  137. 140 Vox O'Reason May 10, 2016 at 12:27 pm

    … and possibly rotation ace in 2 years. 😀

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  138. 141 Vox O'Reason May 10, 2016 at 12:46 pm

    Alot of under the radar minor league stuff happened yesterday. Braves traded “cash considerations” for AAA C Anthony Recker from CLE and AA OF Mel Rojas, Jr. from PIT. Neither are earth shattering, and neither appeared to be necessary for any reason. In fact, MRJr has done practically nothing after being a one time top prospect. Neither move was announced by the Braves. We only picked up on Recker because CLE announced it, and we only picked up on MRJr because PIT announced it.

    As expected, they activated GBeck but unexpectedly DFA’d Matt Tuiasasopo.

    And today they called up LHRP Ian Krol, but haven’t announced it (was reported by Ken Rosenthal and confirmed by DOB) and haven’t announced a corresponding move.

    In the case of Recker, the team assigned C Braeden Schlehuber to Rookie League Danville to make room for him. What makes this significant is that Schlehuber is 28 and has spent the season in AAA – not exactly the ideal candidate for rookie ball. Oh, and that league doesn’t even crank up until June. In other words, it was a purely paper transaction while something else occurs. But what?

    Am I reading something into this that isn’t there, or is it as strange as it seems to me? Could something else be on the horizon?

    It’s probably just wishful thinking on my part… or gas. I did eat Li’l Caesars for lunch.

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  139. 142 Vox O'Reason May 10, 2016 at 12:50 pm

    You know, the more reasonable explanation is that this kind of thing occurs all the time and has for years, we just never really knew. But with information instantly available now and social media constantly regurgitating it, it is brought to our awareness more.

    Nah, I prefer the conspiracy theory better. 😉

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  140. 143 Gil in Mechanicsville May 10, 2016 at 1:33 pm

    28 YO catcher assigned to rookie league, not exactly a ringing endorsement eh? On the other hand, 28 is pretty young for a catcher in the Atlanta organization….

    Yes, Easy O has only been easy for opposing batters. Even his outs have been hard hit at’em balls. It is what happens when your arm is being held together with glue and duct tape. Hey, he was good for a while. Actually, he was great for a while but I digress…

    I would concur, Julio likely is headed somewhere else. Of course he could be considered the grizzled veteran on the Atlanta staff at the tender age of what, 25?

    I did not get to see all of Sunday’s game but what I saw, I thought Folty looked much better. Okay, he gave up a couple of dingers. At least he was not walking the ballpark.

    The Phillies can be tough, I’m sure Ryan Howard is salivating.

    Let’s see if the fightin’ Phils’ record holds up when they run into the buzz saw Atlanta has been faced with. I noticed Washington did not fare so well against the Cubbies.

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  141. 144 berigan2electricboogaloo May 10, 2016 at 2:27 pm

    If we have to rely on Alexi Ogando, Eric O’Flaherty and Jim Johnson to keep us in games, we’re in trouble. I’m not quite sure why there is greater patience with the re-treads in the bullpen. I would have already shown those 3 the door, but that’s just me.
    but…who (whom?) do you replace them with? I guess I see the good Alexi games…I’d keep him at least…
    V, have you heard anything about Shae Simmons? What about any other guys that were injured last year?

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  142. 145 Carolina Lady May 10, 2016 at 2:44 pm

    How many once-were and wanna-be players does it take to make a real ML baseball team? Don’t know. It’s never been done.

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  143. 146 Vox O'Reason May 10, 2016 at 2:45 pm

    And there ya go.

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  144. 147 Vox O'Reason May 10, 2016 at 3:03 pm

    V, have you heard anything about Shae Simmons? What about any other guys that were injured last year?

    The Braves have taken a much more cautious approach in the post -TJ protocol this year, as they should. I think the elbow woes of Kris Medlen and Brandon Beachy sent a shock wave through the organization and made somebody wake up and reassess how they were handling their recovering pitchers.

    As a result, prospect Max Fried went almost 2 full years before seeing game action. (Similarly, last year’s #1 pick LHP Kolby Allard has yet to see game action while recovering from minor back surgery. He is throwing in extended Spring Training, though. He’s expected to be ready for Rookie League next month.) But I digress.

    The simple answer to your question is that they keep saying that June is a probable arrival time for Simmons, but that is likely still just a guess. To my knowledge, he’s not even throwing full speed yet. I know he isn’t pitching in any kind of game action.

    LHP Paco Rodriguez isn’t expected back until next year. I think he’s probably on the same timetable as Simmons, just 1 year later. Same with LHP Andrew McKirahan.

    The good news is that I read a report that LHP Manny Banuelos could be back pitching in games as early as next week.

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  145. 148 Vox O'Reason May 10, 2016 at 3:11 pm

    Not surprisingly, GBeck is starting at 3B for the good guys tonight in Philly.

    2nite’s lineup vs LHP Adam Morgan:

    1- Marky, RF
    2- Ender, CF
    3- Freddie, 1B
    4- TFlow, C
    5- French Fry, LF
    6- GBeck, 3B
    7- d’Artagnan, 2B
    8- Errorick Aybar, SS
    9- Matt Wisler, RHP

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  146. 149 Vox O'Reason May 10, 2016 at 7:48 pm

    Uh, not in Philly. Why did I think we were in Philly?

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  147. 150 Vox O'Reason May 11, 2016 at 8:09 am

    A baseball lineup of observations taken from last night’s disappointment:

    #1- Matt Wisler is a very good pitcher. We have something there. Not just “stuff”. He has it. He’s going to be a rotation anchor. Not calling him a future HOF, but he still reminds me of a RH version of Tom Glavine.

    #2- Ender Inciarte is a very good player. Talent, drive, and energy. Now if we can just build around that. IMO, he’s a future All-Star… if he can stay healthy.

    #3- Freddie Freeman looks like he has regained his stroke. As with Ender, if we can just build around that…

    #4- When you have to go to Reid Brignac off your bench in the bottom of the 9th inning with the game on the line, you really have been dealt a rotten hand.

    #5- Why was Reid called upon? Because your real bench piece, Kelly Johnson, did his job properly pinch hitting for your starting 3B, Gordon Beckham, who is a nice piece but should be coming off the bench and not starting. Their 3B put them ahead in the game with a long home run. Ours was pinch hit for when it counted. Kinda sums it up.

    #6- Until we find some power, we’ll continue to score at a MLB worst rate of 2.97 runs per game.

    #7- Tyler Flowers is a… “nice” player. I’ll be honest. Is he doing anything any better than Ryan Lavarnway did last season? TFlow is slashing .229/.315/.229 thus far. Lavarnway gave us .227/.311/.394 last season. TFlow is throwing opposing basestealers out at an anemic 9% rate. Lavarnway gave us 33% last season. Am I missing something here? Maybe that’s why the team picked up Anthony Recker. Maybe Lavarnway is coming back.

    #8- We are really fielding about a half a team. 1B, RF, CF… OK, not quite half. In other words, our 1-3 batters are pretty good… then 4-8 happens. Ugh. If we are going to stave off a historically bad season, we better find a starting catcher and a bridge 3B.

    #9- I hope we see Dansby or Ozzie or both before too much longer. I need something to tune in for.

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  148. 151 Vox O'Reason May 11, 2016 at 8:17 am

    And if anyone cares, Ryan Lavarnway is slashing .276/.336/.357 w/ 10 RBI in 25 games at AAA Gwinnett. And he’s thrown out 5 of 20 would be basestealers. Easy math there… 25%.

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  149. 152 Vox O'Reason May 11, 2016 at 8:20 am

    Honestly, I don’t believe Lavarnway would make a big difference in this year’s team, but I sure don’t see TFlow doing anything currently. We signed him for 2 years didn’t we? Ugh…

    At least “TFlow” sounds kinda cool. “RyLav” is pretty lame.

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  150. 153 Gil in Mechanicsville May 11, 2016 at 8:22 am

    Uh, not in Philly. Why did I think we were in Philly?

    Hey, I believed you. Even went so far as check the weather forecast for Philadelphia. Imagine my surprise when I tuned in and they were playing at Turner Field. Oh well, Bill O’Rielly said the other night that 70% of the stuff you get off the internet is not true…

    I guess that fall into that category. 🙂

    Now the game. I really thought Matt Wisler pitched well. Unfortunately, he had no support. Perhaps two highlights. One was Ender completely schooling Luis on a flyball and doubling him up. The other was Freddies oppo taco in the ninth. Of course I still knew it would be too little because there was no one else to follow him up.

    You are 100% right on you assesment of this Braves team. They are going out to battle with only a half of a real major league team. The rest are simply cannon fodder needed to have nine players on the field. Much like the many minor league teams the Braves use to field. Hummm… yep, exactly like that and most of these guys would struggle in triple A.

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  151. 154 Vox O'Reason May 11, 2016 at 8:24 am

    Flowers would make a fine backup to a good starting catcher, getting a start a week. But as half of a platoon he’s being fairly well exposed. And I haven’t even started griping about AJP, who was our best player in a last gasp 2015, but has succumbed to Father Time in 2016. By all appearances (pun intended), his eyes have betrayed him. You can tell by his bat and by his glove. Can’t believe he has dropped as many balls as he has this season already.

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  152. 155 Vox O'Reason May 11, 2016 at 8:27 am

    It would appear that the front office took all of April, then made a handful of adjustments, purging the bench and calling up a new starter.

    I wonder if we’ll see a similar assessment at the end of May..?

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  153. 156 Vox O'Reason May 11, 2016 at 8:34 am

    While I’m on a roll, let’s just look at last night’s starting lineup, shall we?

    1- Markakis, RF: MLB caliber.
    2- Inciarte, CF: MLB caliber.
    3- Freeman, 1B: MLB caliber.
    4- Flowers, C: backup at best, not a MLB starter.
    5- Francoeur, LF; good RH bench bat, not a MLB starter.
    6- Beckham, 3B: versatile fielder, sterile bat; AAAA player.
    7- d’Arnaud, 2B: Uh… why is he even here, much less starting?
    8- Aybar, SS: Ugh. I guess by comparison, I’d take Beckham or d’Arnaud.

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  154. 157 Gil in Mechanicsville May 11, 2016 at 8:38 am

    So, yesterday, The gNats signed fragile Stephen Strasburg to a 7 year $175 million extension. A sweet deal for a guy with a history of being glass. After three years, he can opt out and still be a free agent, if he breaks down, the gNats will be on the hook for the full seven years. I think the gNats would have been better off if they had re-signed Zimmermann and let Strasburg walk.

    Anyhoo, the guys in the booth are busy hawking tickets for the Braves new stadium which is Liberty Media’s version of Disney World. As bad as the the area around Turner Field is, people would still fight the traffic to see the games when they have a good team. Oh well, the new stadium won’t look as empty with 15,000 fewer seats. Maybe the Braves should just play the rest of their games at Cool Ray. Would be a tough ticket eh?

    Okay, enough whining, at least I am not going to lose my job trying to eke out wins with this bunch. Like it or not, top talent cost money and it is getting more expensive everyday.

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  155. 158 Vox O'Reason May 11, 2016 at 8:46 am

    If I were in Coppy’s office, I’d be trying to find a bridge 3B and a C. I don’t think Rio Ruiz is ready to contribute everyday, and certainly not ready to display alot of power yet. Certainly there’s a guy out there at the end of a pricey contract that a non-contending team would like to shed.

    Would it be crazy to offer the Angels Error Aybar and a pitcher back for 1 year of Yunel Escobar? They lost Andrelton for a few months and have lost a couple of starting pitchers for the year. How about Aybar and Williams Perez for Yunel?

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  156. 159 Vox O'Reason May 11, 2016 at 8:51 am

    Catcher is a more long term proposition. Don’t just need a bridge there. Need the real deal.

    There was an interesting discussion by Chip & Joe last night about how crippling the failure of Christian Bethancourt was. And that is so true. That was a guy that you planned to build around. That was a guy that you let your long time All-Star walk for, so that he wouldn’t be blocked. And he was a massive disappointment. The organization has yet to recover from it too.

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  157. 160 Gil in Mechanicsville May 11, 2016 at 9:40 am

    And yet again, you make a good case on how the Braves margin for error is razor thin.

    Fact, not every number one pick is going to be Chipper Jones. If Bobby Cox had his way, he would have picked Todd Poppel. We know how that worked out for the A’s don’t we?

    Yes, Bethancourt was too caught up in reading his press clippings and felt he did not need to get better. Catcher do not have to be the primary offense but you have to have offense from somewhere to make up for it.

    Buster Poseys don’t come around all that often. Maybe the Braves could talk momma and papa Molina into having more kids… No? Okay, then the Braves had better make the Brewers a heck of an offer for LuCroy. The Brewers know they have gold.

    So, every team who has a prize generally knows it. They all have an agenda. They know your weaknesses maybe better than you do. It is why you need a huge scouting department combing the backwoods for talent no one else has spotted yet.

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  158. 161 Vox O'Reason May 11, 2016 at 9:58 am

    Ozzie! Ozzie! Ozzie! Ozzie! Ozzie!

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  159. 162 Vox O'Reason May 11, 2016 at 10:04 am

    Want to know why the Braves are so high on 19-yo P Touki Toussaint? Well, there’s this:

    Man, that’s just plain filthy.

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  160. 163 Vox O'Reason May 11, 2016 at 10:09 am

    So Johnny Gomes has left his Japanese team to seek an opportunity with a ML team. I wouldn’t have minded Gomes coming off the bench last night in the 9th inning instead of Chase d’Arnaud. Of course, he kind of does the same thing Francoeur does, just with less athleticism. I’d rather have Francoeur.

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  161. 164 Vox O'Reason May 11, 2016 at 11:09 am

    Glad we have something to look forward to.

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  162. 165 Gil in Mechanicsville May 11, 2016 at 12:08 pm

    Of course, he kind of does the same thing Francoeur does, just with less athleticism. I’d rather have Francoeur.

    Except he has a way of getting the most out of his teammates. Maybe the Braves will make him a manager… Someone will. Alas, Jonny sufferers from the same maliday many other of his ilk do, ageism… poorer eyesight, slower bat speed, less foot speed and agility.

    I saw the same thing happen to the Redskins back in the day, they just got old. If we are lucky, it happens to all of us. I know I have not just lost a step, I have lost the entire staircase.

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  163. 166 Gil in Mechanicsville May 11, 2016 at 12:12 pm

    I know the Braves don’t want to rush Albies and Swanson but at this point, I don’t see where the Bravos have much to lose. I know Aybar is a huge disappointment for all of us in Braves Country. We really did get spoiled didn’t we?

    If you are going to lose 100 games, I think I would rather do it with the kids than with a bunch of old guys who should be playing out the string in triple A.

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  164. 167 Gil in Mechanicsville May 11, 2016 at 12:14 pm

    So if they bring up Albies and Swanson and they both hit .220, is that any worse than what they are getting out of Aybar and whoever not named Garcia playing second is giving us?

    Rookies always suffer through growing pains, get it over with and maybe they will be ready in 2017.

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  165. 168 Gil in Mechanicsville May 11, 2016 at 12:15 pm

    And think Mallex Smith didn’t learn something last night watching Enders?

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  166. 169 Gil in Mechanicsville May 11, 2016 at 12:16 pm

    It was the outfield version of the hidden ball trick, perhaps made more plausible by the notoriously bad lighting in the outfield at the Ted.

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  167. 170 Gil in Mechanicsville May 11, 2016 at 12:19 pm

    One last thing, I sure glad we do not rely on clicks to support our little blog. The Braves losing has a real chilling effect on traffic. I wonder how much of a discount Fox Sports is having give advertisers?

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  168. 171 Vox O'Reason May 11, 2016 at 12:52 pm

    There are some rumblings afoot that the Boston Red Sox are interested in adding Julio Teheran to their rotation. Nick Cafardo, coincidentally of the Boston Globe, recently said of Teheran, “His name is popping up as talent evaluators and front office people start building their lists of players they think might be available before the trade deadline. Teheran has great stuff and the Braves may continue to sell off their players as they fall deeper out of contention. President of baseball operations John Hart has done well getting maximum return for his players. Teheran should land him a haul.”

    Hmmm… define “haul”.

    Well, in the same article but separately Cafardo names this Red Sox name in a list of trade candidates, “Blake Swihart, C/LF, Pawtucket [Boston’s AAA affiliate] — Does Swihart have the power desired from a corner outfielder? One talent evaluator feels he can be an Alex Gordon type, a guy who could hit between 15-18 homers and knock in 80-90 runs. Obviously, Swihart has a long way to go to become the defensive player Gordon is. That’s why his highest value is as a catcher. If he can hit .290-.300 with 15 homers and drive in 75 runs, he’d rank among the top-hitting catchers. Swihart still has a lot of value and other teams would still ask for him in trade over Christian Vazquez, whose offensive potential is still in question. If they need a No. 2 type pitcher, the feeling is Dave Dombrowski might include him in a package,” said one AL GM.”

    The Red Sox currently prefer Vazquez at catcher, so they have one to spare. And they are looking for a #2 type pitcher. Julio could do that.

    Who else do they have to spare?

    They have a top OF prospect in Andrew Benintendi that is about to be promoted from high-A to AA. Boston also has a talented and young crowded OF already in Mookie Betts, Jackie Bradley, Jr, and Brock Holt. So Benintendi is blocked at the ML level.

    Of course, LF Brock Holt also plays 3B. Hmmm…

    Speaking of Holt, he’s their backup 3B behind starter Travis Shaw. Isn’t that interesting?

    So they have some depth at C and 3B/LF, and are reported to have interest in Julio Teheran.

    Isn’t that quite the coincidence?

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  169. 172 Vox O'Reason May 11, 2016 at 12:56 pm

    Inconceivable! (Homage to my favorite movie The Princess Bride.)

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  170. 173 berigan2electricboogaloo May 11, 2016 at 1:15 pm

    I think the gNats would have been better off if they had re-signed Zimmermann and let Strasburg walk.
    Yup!
    What’s crazy is the “experts” said he could have gotten even more(Steven S. ) than he did from the Nats…

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  171. 174 berigan2electricboogaloo May 11, 2016 at 1:16 pm

    V, I sure hope the braves will HEAVILY scout cuz he was sent down for basically being Christian Bethencourt behind the plate…

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  172. 175 berigan2electricboogaloo May 11, 2016 at 1:17 pm

    …will HEAVILY scout Swihart I meant to say….

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  173. 176 Vox O'Reason May 11, 2016 at 1:24 pm

    BREAKING:

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  174. 177 Vox O'Reason May 11, 2016 at 1:25 pm

    Yunel?

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  175. 178 Vox O'Reason May 11, 2016 at 1:27 pm

    Can we include Aybar? Please? They can just have him. We don’t have to have anything back. Nuthin’.

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  176. 179 Vox O'Reason May 11, 2016 at 1:28 pm

    Mike Trout?

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  177. 180 Vox O'Reason May 11, 2016 at 1:39 pm

    No word on who will start in place of Chacin tonight, but thanks to Monday’s off day, Blair could simply start on regular rest. Or they could bring Williams Perez back up, who is listed as starting tonight for Gwinnett. Problem is, the team is in Rochester, NY. It’d be kinda tough to get him back here in time for tonight’s 7:05 start time unless they already knew this was going down several hours ago.

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  178. 181 Vox O'Reason May 11, 2016 at 1:40 pm

    What? That’s it? Just a…

    I can’t say it.

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  179. 182 Vox O'Reason May 11, 2016 at 1:42 pm

    How does this help the team, now or moving forward? If the minor league pitcher is not even a prospect, what’s the point?

    Surely there’s more…

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  180. 183 Vox O'Reason May 11, 2016 at 1:46 pm

    I mean, there has to be more. This doesn’t make any sense if there isn’t something else we aren’t seeing..

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  181. 184 Vox O'Reason May 11, 2016 at 1:51 pm

    From Josh Mayhood, Angels’ writer at SB Nation:

    Braves fans already seem happy to see Chacin go, and if you look at his current numbers for 2016 (1-2 record, with 5.40 ERA and 1.388 WHIP) then you can see why. He has had some decent years in the past, but currently seems to be struggling… perfect fit for the Halos, if you ask me. Chacin was expected to start tonight for the Braves, but this will obviously put a halt on that, as he’s on the brink of going from one dumpster fire to another.

    Ouch. OK, maybe it makes a little more sense then.

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  182. 185 Vox O'Reason May 11, 2016 at 1:54 pm

    Bowman rationalizes that it’s just a matter of time before either Tyrell Jenkins or Lucas Sims takes Chacin’s former rotation spot anyway. Thus, this is more like clearing a path with WillyP holding down the spot in the interim.

    Still couldn’t we figure out a way to get something useful back?

    Heck… why not send them Chacin and Williams Perez for something useful?

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  183. 186 Vox O'Reason May 11, 2016 at 2:03 pm

    I can hear the conversation now between Coppy and Halo’s GM Billy Eppler..

    Coppy: “Hey man. How’s it going?”

    Eppler: “Dude, you don’t have any idea. Oh, wait! Yeah, I guess you do.”

    Coppy: “Sucks, doesn’t it?”

    Eppler: “Yeah. I’ve lost almost my entire pitching rotation. And of course, you screwed me out of any depth by taking Sean Newcomb and Chris Ellis, both of whom I’d probably have up here starting now to fill out my rotation.”

    Coppy: “I’m glad you brought that up. I have an extra arm or two. Look, we both suck. Maybe we can look at our two rosters and figure out a way to spread out the holes. Maybe I can give up another arm if you have a bat or something.”

    Eppler: “You got an extra arm? Lemme see what I can find… Well, I don’t have any prospects. You guys took the last of those from us. I do have a fringe player or two. No bats though. Sorry.”

    Coppy: “Well, I’ll take whatever you can find.”

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  184. 187 Vox O'Reason May 11, 2016 at 2:07 pm

    Braves official announcement:

    The Braves & Angels completed a trade today. #Braves send RHP Jhoulys Chacin to the Angels in exchange for minor league LHP Adam McCreery.

    McCreery, 23, pitched the last two years (2014-15) for Tempe in the Arizona League & posted a 3.52 ERA in 31 appearances with 49 strikeouts.

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  185. 188 Vox O'Reason May 11, 2016 at 2:11 pm

    He’s a 23-year-old lefty reliever, that has pitched in their Rookie League affiliate in ’14-’15.

    23-year-old pitchers repeating Rookie League aren’t exactly anything to jump around about.

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  186. 189 Vox O'Reason May 11, 2016 at 2:12 pm

    Ugh…

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  187. 190 Vox O'Reason May 11, 2016 at 2:17 pm

    He was their #90 prospect. #90… in one of the worst farm systems in baseball.

    In a nut shell, his ceiling is as a lefty specialist if he can cut down on the walks.

    Great.

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  188. 191 Vox O'Reason May 11, 2016 at 2:20 pm

    Yeah. That’s one way to put it.

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  189. 192 Vox O'Reason May 11, 2016 at 2:24 pm

    The poop on McCreery, courtesy of MLBTR:

    McCreery, 23, was a 22nd-round pick in the 2014 draft. He’s a tall and lanky reliever who has thrown 38 innings at the Rookie level over the last two years but has yet to make his 2016 debut. McCreery made strides in his second run at Rookie ball last year, striking out 28 batters in 28 2/3 innings while allowing just ten hits and five earned runs, but he still coughed up 14 free passes in that span. As Scout.com has explained, McCreery has high-powered stuff but has struggled to harness it with his huge frame.

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  190. 193 Vox O'Reason May 11, 2016 at 3:41 pm

    I just read that Dansby Swanson has switched to a “permanent” jersey number 7 in Mississippi. Gordon Beckham should take heed.

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  191. 194 Gil in Mechanicsville May 11, 2016 at 4:04 pm

    Always entertaining reading here at the old BS… Yep, a fireballing lefty who has problem finding the plate. Just what the doctor ordered?

    Coppy: “Hey, I just saved us a million bucks, tell the Mercedes dealer to add the leather package”

    I thought Chacin to be a good number four, he just needs to be on a team that can score him some runs.

    The Braves only need to glance around to see the going rate for number ones and twos….

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  192. 195 berigan2electricboogaloo May 11, 2016 at 4:05 pm

    V, perhaps it looked like the braves were about to release him if he had another bad start (or if he pitched well, he’d have to get 2-3 more starts afterwards ) and this guaranteed the Angels got him and the braves felt sorry and tossed the Angels a bone 😉

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  193. 196 Gil in Mechanicsville May 11, 2016 at 4:14 pm

    the braves felt sorry and tossed the Angels a bone

    Could be some truth to that, who knew that Simba would go down? I realized Ber warned us about Aybar but I digress….

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  194. 197 Vox O'Reason May 11, 2016 at 4:42 pm

    perhaps it looked like the braves were about to release him if he had another bad start

    I think there is a bit of truth to that one. They are likely to want to bring Tyrell Jenkins up fairly soon, so there’s that.

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  195. 198 Vox O'Reason May 11, 2016 at 4:44 pm

    I like the idea of a sympathy trade…

    It might help grease the skids for that big Mike Trout trade when the Halo’s realize they need to blow the whole thing up and that Trout is their only player of worth.

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  196. 199 Vox O'Reason May 11, 2016 at 4:46 pm

    Man, can you imagine Trout and Harper going head to head in the same division?

    I can imagine it. That’s as close as it’ll ever come, but I can imagine it.

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  197. 200 Gil in Mechanicsville May 11, 2016 at 4:58 pm

    Yes, more likely they will be on the same team… Money talks boys.. Of course we said the same when Albert signed with the Halos…

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  198. 201 Gil in Mechanicsville May 11, 2016 at 7:21 pm

    Nice first inning by Perez… Aggressive… I like, I hate when they nibble.

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  199. 202 Gil in Mechanicsville May 11, 2016 at 8:11 pm

    Ber was so right about Eric Aybar. I have a suggestion. Short of bringing up Albies or Swanson, If the Braves have to play him, bat him ninth and when the play inter-league games, DH for him and let the pitchers hit.

    Williams looks like he wants to stay. Going after hitters, his defense playing on their toes. A No No after 4 innings.

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  200. 203 Gil in Mechanicsville May 11, 2016 at 8:13 pm

    You were right VOX, should have forced the Halos to take Aybar when they traded for Chacin.

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  201. 204 Gil in Mechanicsville May 11, 2016 at 8:20 pm

    The Braves MLB site says the Braves traded Chacin for a prospect, the AJC says they traded for a project. For once I think the AJC was closer to the truth for once.

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  202. 205 Gil in Mechanicsville May 11, 2016 at 8:24 pm

    Okay, trade for Howard, who loves hitting in Atlanta and move Freddie to third.

    Maybe Howard just loves hitting Atlanta pitching? Never mind….

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  203. 206 berigan2electricboogaloo May 12, 2016 at 7:15 am

    You all remember me saying Williams Perez was going to go 8 innings (on only 85 pitches) and end the 11 game home losing streak, right? 😆

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  204. 207 berigan2electricboogaloo May 12, 2016 at 7:20 am

    V, that was one time I sure would agree with you that F.G. mishandled the bullpen….I know you want to give a closer , you know…chances to close the game…but it was 4-1 when they decided after 85 pitches , Perez was done. Perhaps Vizcaino is a clean inning guy??? I don’t know…I would have given Perez a change to finish the game…but if he gave up a few hits then Vizcaino came in an blew the save…
    It’s got to be darned near impossible to manage a last place team…

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  205. 208 Vox O'Reason May 12, 2016 at 7:31 am

    It’s got to be darned near impossible to manage a last place team…

    Truth.

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  206. 209 Vox O'Reason May 12, 2016 at 7:32 am

    It’s got to be darned near impossible to manage a last place team…

    Managing not to lose as opposed to managing to win. Not Fredi’s fault; not this time anyway.

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  207. 210 berigan2electricboogaloo May 12, 2016 at 7:38 am

    Perhaps they were going to fire F.G. but they couldn’t find anyone that would take the job! 😉

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  208. 211 berigan2electricboogaloo May 12, 2016 at 7:47 am

    interesting stuff that happened last night, in case use guys missed it…Max Scherzer struck out 20! Tigers last night in Washington….wonder if the Tigers are glad they let him walk away?
    Noah Syndergaard hit not one, but 2 homers in L.A….so he now has more homers than any other brave not named Freeman…
    So, we need a catcher eh?
    This backup catcher for the Fathers seems to have a ton of pop 😕

    http://m.mlb.com/sd/video/?content_id=685597183&topic_id=73955164&c_id=sd

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  209. 212 Vox O'Reason May 12, 2016 at 7:47 am

    That said, they played a darn good game last night (except for Aybar who alone left 7 men on base). Maybe we should fly WillyP around for a few hours before every start?

    It was mentioned yesterday somewhere (I read alot yesterday, and it’s too early for me to try to recall everything in great detail) that the original plan to have Norris and Chacin/Kendrick go 2 months, then begin to bring up the kids. Well, Norris’ poor start accelerated the process by a month, forcing the early promotion of Blair. That said, I don’t think the team regrets it. Blair looks more than capable. And with the next pitcher (Tyrell Jenkins) very close to being promoted, Chacin was likely to be DFA’d soon anyway, so Coppy got something from LAA while they were desperate. Something’s better than nothing, even if it is a “project”.

    Here’s what I have learned about Adam McCreery…

    He’s 6′ 8″, and has alot of body going on behind his pitching motion. He has a ton of potential if anyone can ever get his mechanics squared away and get him to consistently repeat a motion. Thus, he will report to Braves extended spring training to work with the instructors there. At 23, he isn’t a prospect any longer, and honestly, probably won’t turn out to be a whole lot of anything. But you never now. You have a better chance of something from a warm body than from a DFA.

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  210. 213 Vox O'Reason May 12, 2016 at 7:59 am

    Speaking of promotions, this is straight from Coppy’s mouth, courtesy of DOB:

    “We said we’d try to put a better team on the field (in 2016); that remains to be seen. We said we’re going to build around young players. We’ve already brought up Blair, (Mike) Foltynewicz and Mallex. We’ve got Ozzie Albies, Rio Ruiz, Dansby Swanson, Lucas Sims, Tyrell Jenkins on approach. They’re all real close. They could be called up at any point this season.

    And I believe it.

    I believe that they are taking a month by month approach, and that June will see another round of promotions. That’s why Reid Brignac and Chase d’Arnaud are currently here. Brignac will go back first (d’Arbaud is out of options, so he will probably hang around a little longer) when Rio arrives, which could be the next action to happen in June. At that point, Dansby should be moved up and paired with Ozzie to begin working together as they await they’re callup. Then in July, when the trade market begins to heat up, the metamorphosis will take on a new phase as Aybar is hopefully sent somewhere (or simply released) and Julio is traded. That’s when we’ll see the influx of Tyrell Jenkins and the Ozzie/Dansby show, along with whatever hitter comes back to the team in the Julio deal. Then we’ll head into the 2nd half with a mostly new team.

    That’s how I envision it anyway…

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  211. 214 Vox O'Reason May 12, 2016 at 8:01 am

    More from Coppy’s mouth, courtesy of DOB:

    “Dave, we’re going to be really good. My hope, and I don’t know whether or not it’s going to happen, is that Fredi is here to see it. I don’t know that he will be, I don’t know that he won’t be. I want him to succeed. I care about the man personally.”

    You know what? I believe that too. I also know that Coppy knows better than to paint himself into a corner with any kind of commitment that he might not be able to keep.

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  212. 215 Vox O'Reason May 12, 2016 at 8:13 am

    Strasburg’s recent 7-year deal (crazy when you consider his injury history) is already having ripple effects. Jake Arrieta has let it be known that he expects a 7-year deal himself. Problem is, he’s already 30 years old.

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  213. 216 Gil in Mechanicsville May 12, 2016 at 8:54 am

    It is not the 7 year deal I find troubling, it is the 3 year escape clause in the contract. Owners being snookered again.

    I know JS was loath to give any pitcher more than a three year contract because that was the limit that insurance would cover a contract. Those actuaries were into sabermetrics a long time ago.

    Williams Perez was the epitome of efficiency last night, it was almost like watching Maddux pitching a gem. Ball was moving a lot.

    I know Scherzer was impressive with 20 Ks but like Crash Davis said, strike out are boring, ground balls are more democratic… It was nice to see the Braves making plays behind Williams last night.

    I think Fredi planned to use Anrody last night regardless. Don’t like for your closer to get rusty. Still, Perez could have closed it out himself if he were needed.

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  214. 217 Gil in Mechanicsville May 12, 2016 at 9:01 am

    I know I am picking nits and at this point, beggars should not be choosy but the Braves missed some prime scoring opportunities early. If someone has to bat ninth, let it be Aybar…. please… I know shortstop has traditionally been a glove position, I am okay with a weak hitting shortstop but you better bring the D to cover it up.

    I don’t know who will be happier when Aybar is gone for another project, Aybar, his teammates or us?

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  215. 218 Vox O'Reason May 12, 2016 at 9:45 am

    If someone has to bat ninth, let it be Aybar…. please

    I heard Fredi talking about Mallex batting 9th recently, and believe it or not, I learned something and am actually in agreement with it.

    First, when you bat ahead of the pitcher, you get nothing to hit. Nothing. Just junk. Second, should you actually get on base, you get no good pitches to run on.

    Batting Mallex 9th allows the lineup to turn over more naturally with what is in essence 2 leadoff men. And it has paid off for Mallex without question. And he’s slashing .400/407/640 w/ 3 SB’s and a homer batting 9th.

    Let’s just leave him there, OK?

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  216. 219 Vox O'Reason May 12, 2016 at 9:47 am

    I suppose the argument could be made to simply lead him off and let the rest of the order fall in behind that. I would agree, except you can’t argue the results.

    .400/407/640 = good results

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  217. 220 Vox O'Reason May 12, 2016 at 11:15 am

    I bet he is!!

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  218. 221 Gil in Mechanicsville May 12, 2016 at 12:14 pm

    So, it it because he (Mallex) always seems to be hitting with one out or because he does not feel the need to get on base is as important because he is after all, batting ninth.

    True, the guy behind you can dictate the pitches you are likely to see during your at bat. I think Freddie will see fewer good pitches to hit since he has rediscovered his stroke.

    Perhaps the most important acquisition for the Braves will be someone who can actually protect their best hitter. I would say Markakis but I think he is being very productive where he is and I would hate to mess with that.

    I think Williams Perez reiterated the importance of having a strong defense. He was pitching to contact, aggressive in the zone, not nibbling but relying on his stuff. One wonders if Williams has finally got it? He was like a very younger version of the current Bartolo Colon. He is not a swing and miss guy but that is alright, pitching to contact gives you the potential to pitch past the fifth inning.

    I think Perez’s latest foray into the minor leagues may have been the wake up call he has needed. It’s like the hitter who finally gets it. Let’s hope it last. I don’t expect Perez to hurl a lot of shutouts but he can toss a lot of quality starts as long as the 7 guys behind him stay alert. Even Freddie made a great play last night. Still say he could play third base if it came to that. He came up as a third baseman. Just throwing it out there…

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  219. 222 Vox O'Reason May 12, 2016 at 12:19 pm

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  220. 223 Vox O'Reason May 12, 2016 at 12:23 pm

    BTW- not publicized, and maybe not even important enough to mention here. But Matt Tuiasosopo, who was DFA’d on 5/9, was outrighted to AAA on 5/11. So he’s still in the system, and back with the G-Braves.

    If anyone cares.

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  221. 224 Gil in Mechanicsville May 12, 2016 at 12:25 pm

    One more comment.

    McCreery… I think it is a DNA thing…. The kid is 6’8″. I don’t think white kids grow into their bodies until they are 25 or 26 years old. Latin players appear to be fully grown at 19 or 20… Must be diet, or fluoride in the water… who knows? I do know if they can get the kid to learn how to replicate his delivery he could be an effective reliever. The kid has the wingspan of a 747. We’ll see in a couple of years. Not like the Braves had a lot invested in Chacin.

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  222. 225 Gil in Mechanicsville May 12, 2016 at 12:28 pm

    VOX, I’m sure he cares. And Bonifacio is still in triple A… I think he missed his opportunity.

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  223. 226 Vox O'Reason May 12, 2016 at 2:36 pm

    I think he missed his opportunity.

    Indeed. But isn’t it interesting that right about the same time the Boni snafu happened, Mallex started hitting?

    Coincidence? Hmmm…

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  224. 227 Vox O'Reason May 12, 2016 at 3:41 pm

    Wanna see something interesting?

    Here are the jettisoned Braves pre-blowup and their 2016 numbers…

    LF- Justin Upton: .221/.259/.321, 2 HR, 9 RBI, 53 K

    CF- Melvin Upton: .250/.341/.375, 3 HR, 12 RBI, 33 K

    RF- Jason Heyward: .216/.321/.259, 0 HR, 13 RBI, 26 K

    3B- Chris Johnson: .231/.302/.385, 1 HR, 2 RBI, 14 K

    SS- Andrelton Simmons: .219/.246/.281, 1 HR, 8 RBI, 6 K

    2B- Dan Uggla: out of baseball

    1B- Freddie Freeman: .289/.391/.500, 6 HR, 10 RBI, 31 K

    C- Evan Gattis: .203/.257/.313, 1 HR, 7 RBI, 22 K

    Man! That team sucks!! At least we kept the right one. 😉

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  225. 228 Vox O'Reason May 12, 2016 at 4:15 pm

    Aw!! We will not see Kris Medlen in KC after all. He’s been DL’d with rotator cuff issues. I hate it for the guy!

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  226. 229 berigan2electricboogaloo May 12, 2016 at 4:31 pm

    Wow…so next to FF the next best player/season is being had by…Melvin?????
    ????

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  227. 230 Vox O'Reason May 12, 2016 at 4:41 pm

    Wow…so next to FF the next best player/season is being had by…Melvin?????

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  228. 231 Gil in Mechanicsville May 12, 2016 at 4:46 pm

    Did not need to keep all those guys, just one.. Not Melvin… but yes, that team started a downward slide which the Braves have not yet recovered.

    It’s early yet, most of those guys still have better numbers than most of the current team and that is sad indeed.

    Other than Markakis and Freddie, the Mendosa line would be an upward trend.

    Sucks for Medlin… I expect the rotator cuff issues are as a result of trying to compensate for the TJ. It is why Strasburg is such a high risk.

    Maybe Kris can learn to play second base?

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  229. 232 Gil in Mechanicsville May 12, 2016 at 10:37 pm

    Oh well, the Braves made a game of it… Them Philistines are tough.

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  230. 233 Vox O'Reason May 13, 2016 at 9:26 am

    I think last night’s extra inning loss can be defined by a handfulof pitches.

    Pitch #1 was a great pitch from Grilli to Herrera that he practically hit off his shoelaces for a triple over Markakis’ head. Nothing wrong with that pitch, but an unbelievable hit.

    Pitch #2 was the one that obviously got away from Grilli and drilled Blanco. That really ratcheted up the pressure, which was high enough already. Grilli went on to strike out a very good hitter in Maikel Franco before giving way to LH Ian Krol.

    Pitch #3 was actually a pitch sequence from Ian Krol to pinch hitter Darrin Ruf. Krol came in a attacked the strike zone and carved up a pretty good hitter. It was actually impressive and gave hope that we might actually escape the inning unscathed. You could feel a momentum shift.

    Pitch #4 was another sequence to Freddy Galvis that is somewhat puzzling. After attacking Ruf and being in complete control of that matchup, Krol pitched around Galvis walking him on 4 pitches. Not sure if that was called from the bench, but I suspect it was since he immediately came back and attacked the next batter. Whatever momentum was gained in the Ruf at bat was immediately lost.

    Which brings me to…

    Pitch #5… Ian Krol went back on the attack but left a hanger out over the plate. Ballgame.

    I don’t understand pitching around Galvis unless they were simply scared of him. It changed the tone of the inning IMO. Another example of playing “not to lose” instead of playing “to win”. Krol and Grilli are wearing the goat horns, but Fredi might ought to share some of the blame if he called that sequence to Galvis.

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  231. 234 Gil in Mechanicsville May 13, 2016 at 9:33 am

    Yes, I really thought the Braves were going to get out of that inning until they walked Galvis. So many ways for that to end bad after that.

    Of course the failure to score in the bottom of the ninth is the real answer.

    Blair looked a bit discombobulated in the first inning. That is what you get with a rookie pitcher. You never know what you are going to get from game to game. Thought he settled down nicely though.

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  232. 235 Vox O'Reason May 13, 2016 at 9:46 am

    As if the Angels weren’t already decimated with injuries, their replacement SS Cliff Pennington is out day-to-day with hamstring issues (and we know how long those can linger) and 3B Yunel Escobar is out day-to-day with a thumb issue.

    C’mon, Coppy! Figure out a way to send Aybar back to ’em! The iron is hot! Strike!!

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  233. 236 Vox O'Reason May 13, 2016 at 9:49 am

    Of course the failure to score in the bottom of the ninth is the real answer.

    Truth. With the winning run in scoring position, we had Chase d’Arnaud batting. There’s your problem. Again.

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  234. 237 Vox O'Reason May 13, 2016 at 9:53 am

    I’ll take the growing pains from Blair. Same as I’ll take them from Folty. We took them from Wisler last season and he’s turned into a pretty dang solid pitcher. It’s why I advocate bringing Tyrell Jenkins on up and let him take his lumps this season also. It’s not like we’re contending or anything.

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  235. 238 Vox O'Reason May 13, 2016 at 10:57 am

    Jay Greeson, Chattanooga Times Free Press:

    Braves brass deserves major kudos for dealing [Jason] Heyward to the Cardinals two years ago. If they had anchored themselves to the Gold Glove outfielder with a hole in his swing, they would have been married to a $20-plus million contract and building around Jeff Franceour 2.0. Plus, they sent Heyward to the Cardinals for pitcher Shelby Miller, who became the key piece in the trade to Arizona that landed prospects Dansby Swanson and Aaron Blair, who’s already in the majors.

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  236. 239 Vox O'Reason May 13, 2016 at 11:09 am

    Braves prospect OF Dustin Peterson, a forgotten piece we got back in the JUp trade to SD, went 3-4 w/ 3 RBI, finishing just a 1B shy of hitting for the cycle last night.

    For the season, the 21-year-old RH hitting Peterson is slashing .278/.347/.476 w/ 5 HR and 22 RBI at AA Mississippi.

    He’s currently the Braves’ #21 prospect. His scouting report reads:

    Scouting grades: Hit: 45 | Power: 50 | Run: 45 | Arm: 45 | Field: 50 | Overall: 45

    The younger brother of Mariners prospect D.J., Peterson came to the Braves in December 2014 as part of the package from the Padres in the Justin Upton deal. He was off to a solid start in his first season in the organization when he was involved in the Carolina Mudcats bus accident. He missed a few weeks right when he was red-hot, struggled after his return, but righted the ship some in the season’s final month.

    While his 2015 campaign was definitely up and down, he showed some of the offensive prowess that made him a second-round pick of the Padres in 2013. He’s one of the better right-handed power bats in the system. With that power is going to come a fair share of strikeouts, but Peterson offsets that with improved discipline at the plate and a willingness to draw walks.

    If he can iron out his inconsistencies at the plate, he has the chance to develop into a run-producing corner outfielder in the big leagues.

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  237. 240 Vox O'Reason May 13, 2016 at 1:24 pm

    Very nice piece on Ozzie Albies by local sports dude and G-Braves’ announcer Tony Schiavone:

    http://atlanta.cbslocal.com/2016/05/13/braves-fans-await-albies/?cid=twitter_929thegame

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  238. 241 Gil in Mechanicsville May 13, 2016 at 4:44 pm

    At this point, I don’t care if Albies and Swanson don’t hit a lick out of the box, I am anxious to see them get their feet wet and make some plays behind who ever is starting, relieving etc.

    When I read about Ozzie and Dansby, I cannot help think about two other future All-stars who were traded away. Brooks Jacoby and Brett Butler. Ozzie fits the Brett Butler mold. Cold likely play centerfield if it were required.

    Guys like d’Arnaude are fill ins. Aybar sure would look good in a Halo’s uni.. hint, hint

    That was for the Braves front office types that drop by for advice every so often….

    I expect the author of the linked piece is right in that Ozzie is likely ticketed for 2nd base. Our own version of Jose Altuve … Hey, I’ll take it….

    I also expect a lot of those young arms being stockpiles are slotted for the bullpen. Nice to have two dozen starters but 8 is enough and there are lots of opportunities in Atlanta for a reliable reliever or two.

    Every team needs a grizzled vet or two but you sure don’t need a whole roster full of them. Load up with talent and keep the line moving.

    When the great eight came along, the Braves only kept three of them, the rest were trade bait used to fill gaps.

    So, now that the Braves have cleaned out SD and LAA. Who next? Boston?

    I still don’t think Markakis will serve out his 4 full years in Atlanta. He would bring a haul from a contender in need of a very good outfielder who can hit… Just speculating….

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  239. 242 Vox O'Reason May 13, 2016 at 4:51 pm

    Jose Reyes suspension was handed down today. It is for 52 games. He’ll be docked $7.06M in pay. MLB should now move on to Hector.

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  240. 243 Vox O'Reason May 13, 2016 at 4:52 pm

    I expect the author of the linked piece is right in that Ozzie is likely ticketed for 2nd base. Our own version of Jose Altuve

    Agree.

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  241. 244 Vox O'Reason May 13, 2016 at 4:55 pm

    I still don’t think Markakis will serve out his 4 full years in Atlanta. He would bring a haul from a contender in need of a very good outfielder who can hit…

    Rumors are already swirling that the White Sox covet him.

    When the great eight came along, the Braves only kept three of them, the rest were trade bait used to fill gaps.

    And something like that will happen again. That’s why it’s important for John Gant and Chris Ellis to really impress. Williams Perez, too.

    We all need to pray that Julio has a dominating performance in KC tonight.

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  242. 245 Vox O'Reason May 13, 2016 at 5:06 pm

    So the Pads are designating Rule 5 pick Jabari Blash for assignment. Of course, any team that would want to acquire him either through trade or through a waiver claim has to assume his Rule 5 rights as well, so he’d have to stay on the ML roster or be offered back to Seattle.

    He hasn’t done much in SD, but he hasn’t been given many opportunities, either.

    If you aren’t aware of Jabari Blash, he’s a big hulking OF with massive power who has put up pretty good numbers in the minors, but at 26 is no longer considered a prospect.

    But the dude has big time power. Big time.

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  243. 246 berigan2electricboogaloo May 13, 2016 at 5:44 pm

    C’mon, Coppy! Figure out a way to send Aybar back to ’em! The iron is hot! Strike!!…….Aybar sure would look good in a Halo’s uni.. hint, hint

    Guys, guys…how long have we had Aybar to see in person? 6 weeks? Do you want to watch him play anymore? How long was he with the Angels? I rest my case 😛

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  244. 247 berigan2electricboogaloo May 13, 2016 at 5:50 pm

    to be a bit fair to Aybar, he seems to have a different stance at the plate, and has hit a few balls on the screws of late, but right at folks…

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  245. 248 berigan2electricboogaloo May 13, 2016 at 5:59 pm

    If you aren’t aware of Jabari Blash, he’s a big hulking OF with massive power who has put up pretty good numbers in the minors, but at 26 is no longer considered a prospect.

    But the dude has big time power. Big time.

    Hmm, interesting do not know anything of him…
    hit 32 HR’s between AA and AAA last year…
    So, finally gets to the majors and in 23 games get…25 AB’s. Which means, (can’t find a breakdown on baseball-reference.com ) he was likely facing mostly righthanded flamethrowers(He bats right handed) late in games, and shockingly…didn’t crush the ball.

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  246. 249 berigan2electricboogaloo May 13, 2016 at 6:07 pm

    I remember hearing how much power Nelson Cruz had…kept killing it in the minors, but looked to be a flop more or less. Age of 25, 6 Hr’s .223 BA in 130 AB’s . at 26, 9 Hr’s 34 RBI’s .235 BA (Only .287 OBP) in 307 ABs. At 27 (no longer a prospect usually, correct?) finally started to put it together, I am guessing late in the year, as he only had 115 AB’s but had 7 HR’s 26 RBI’s, and hit .330!
    Finally, at 28 hit 33 HR’s in only 128 games.
    Some guys, (Jayson Werth, George Foster was the one I always recall) just figure it out much later than others do….

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  247. 250 berigan2electricboogaloo May 13, 2016 at 6:16 pm

    Remember the name Jeremy Hazelbaker? With the Cards, he finally made it to the bigs this year at…28. 6 Hr’s 16 RBI’s in only 84 AB’s

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  248. 251 Gil in Mechanicsville May 13, 2016 at 8:58 pm

    26, 27, 28… This is a sign that things are returning to pre steroid norms. That was the age at which most players finally matured. Particularly outfielders.

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  249. 252 Gil in Mechanicsville May 13, 2016 at 9:03 pm

    Jabari Blash It are kids like that who really have to play everyday to reach their potential. Problem is, where do you play him? You already have a full outfield. That is unless you trade Markakis.

    So, do you accept 35 HR, 100rbi and a.220 BA? Funny how one does not always correspond.

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  250. 253 Gil in Mechanicsville May 13, 2016 at 9:05 pm

    It are? Maybe it’s time to go back to 3rd grade grammar….

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  251. 254 Vox O'Reason May 14, 2016 at 7:53 am

    So, do you accept 35 HR, 100rbi and a.220 BA?

    I think when you have 6 of the 7 other batters who are qualified leadoff batters you can live with 35 HR, 100 RBI and .220 AVG.

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  252. 255 Vox O'Reason May 14, 2016 at 8:36 am

    Julio looked really good last night. I hesitate to call it a “great” outing because of the 2 leadoff walks in the 6th inning. Then again, he got out of that unscathed.

    So Aybar got an RBI. It was via sac fly. But here’s the thing, there were guys on 2B and 3B with no outs. Why not get an actual hit and tie the game there? Maybe because he can’t get a hit…

    That’s the thing that bothers me the most about this 2016 team. Bear with me here…

    Coppy/Hart are in the latter phases of implementing “the plan”. The early phases are obvious:

    Step 1- Trade away the top assets and get big-time prospects in return. Check. Fill in the gaps with veterans and proceed into the first down season, then trade some of those vets at the midpoint for more prospects, but keep a couple to prevent the ship from sailing directly into the rocks. Check. Hit rock bottom. Check.

    Step 2- Continue the process begun in Step 1, pulling in a couple more veterans to bridge the gap, but start filling in with some of the prospects. Check. Bounce.

    And here’s where the plan starts to go awry, and it isn’t necessarily the fault of the plan makers.

    “Bounce” means that your veteran place holders do a couple of things. First, they need to capably play their positions and hold onto some of the value they had when you signed them. This enables the team to veer back onto the course of respectability. Want an example? Look at Philly. They have bounced. Our vets, with the possible example of Nick Markakis, have completely let the team down. And it has a dramatic effect on the timetable of “The Plan”.

    If Arick Aybar was hitting anywhere near his career numbers, or even anywhere near his 2015 numbers, this team would look drastically different. If Bud Norris could have provided at least 2 months of respectability, this team would look drastically different. If Alexi Ogando weren’t coughing up hits like a cat coughs up hairballs, this team would look drastically different. (I have to give Jason Grilli at least a partial pass. After all, his Achilles Tendon did snap like a guitar string just a few months ago.)

    But it isn’t even the poor performances that are so harmful. None of these guys has any trade value at the moment, with the possible exception of Ogando. And that is a very necessary part of the plan.

    Every one of the above mentioned dudes, needs to be shipped at the deadline to make way for their replacements and to bring back value, either in the way of a prospect or as part of a package for real usable major league talent.

    And each time Aybar lets the ball play him instead of playing it, he sets us back. Every time he leaves 7 guys on base, he sets us back.

    Coppy should already be fielding calls on Aybar, Norris, Ogando, and Grilli. But I doubt that the phone is ringing on those topics.

    Instead, he’ll have to trade Beckham or Francoeur or Markakis or even Daniel Castro. And probably Kelly Johnson… again. And that will set The Plan back another year. (He’ll almost certainly be trading Julio. But that probably is part of The Plan.)

    I support The Plan. It takes courage. It takes real guts to empty out all of the “pretty good” so that you can refill with “excellent”. Especially since the empty phase might last a little while. But it pains me when guys you count on – professionals – can’t or don’t meet the minimum standard they were expected to obtain.

    I still haven’t decided if Aybar has become that Uggl-y overnight, or if he’s just going through the motions and cashing the paychecks. And that might be the worst part of all… especially in front of a bunch of youngsters.

    I am well on record as stating I expected this team to finish at or near .500 this year. Silly me for expecting a guy whose career offensive numbers were superior to the guy he replaced to actually produce. Silly me for expecting a guy who was an All-Star just 2 seasons ago to be at least a semi-respected presence in lineup. And silly me for expecting said All-Star, and former Gold Glover, to be able to field and throw. What was I thinking?

    Do I sound frustrated? Well, I am. Watching him lollygag around on the field is unbearable. Watching him sit back for the second bounce and allowing the runner to beat the throw is infuriating. It’s nothing short of lazy. How did he miss the bag last night in the late innings on that failed double play? He was there!! His foot was there!! He just failed to “finish the drill”. He’s mailing it in. Cashing the checks and going to bed. And that’s unacceptable to me.

    I still believe in The Plan. It’s just a more difficult to implement when there are snakes in the camp.

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  253. 256 Vox O'Reason May 14, 2016 at 8:37 am

    Whew! I feel better now.

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  254. 257 Vox O'Reason May 14, 2016 at 8:56 am

    Is it just me, or does my avatar look a little like Ender Inciarte?

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  255. 258 Vox O'Reason May 14, 2016 at 9:20 am

    Here’s an interesting note on a topic that we are all trying hard to forget…

    According to Ken Rosenthal (or his infamous sources): Jose Reyes, already has missed the Rockies‘ first 34 games while on paid administrative leave. A suspension of say, 60 games, would cover an additional 26 games and become unpaid. Reyes would need to repay any money he received during his paid leave, so he stands to lose nearly half of his $22 million salary in 2016.

    Reyes’ suspension is actually only for 52 games, or through May 31. But the concept is the point here, not the length of his suspension.

    In other words, the same construct should be applied to Hector Olivera. He has been on paid administrative leave since April 13 while the league exhaustively investigates his alleged domestic violence incident. So any suspension he receives, and he will, will also become retroactive according to the Reyes precedent and HO will have to pay back whatever salary he has received or is receiving during the retroactive period.

    I hope he isn’t spending it all in one place!

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  256. 259 Vox O'Reason May 14, 2016 at 9:24 am

    The downside of this, to me, is that if HO receives a 60-day suspension, or something similar, then he has already been serving it and could conceivably be “back” sooner. I don’t think anyone except Hector himself, and likely his agent, wants to see HO back in a Braves uniform.

    And he has less trade value than Error Aybar.

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  257. 260 Vox O'Reason May 14, 2016 at 9:34 am

    Alan Carpenter of Tomahawk Take sums up last night’s game thus: A spinning opposite field single misplayed into two extra bases. Two balls that might have been out of the park miss by inches in one case, and run up against a gale in the other. A muffed routine pickup in the outfield is parlayed into another base. Hunter Cervenka‘s fabulous run comes to an end. Instant replay calls once again go against Atlanta. The offense fails to put much of anything together (again), and a fine pitching performance goes by the wayside again.

    That is a very accurate synopsis. I’ll fill in the blanks for those who missed the tilt…

    A spinning opposite field single misplayed [Francoeur] into two extra bases. Two balls that might have been out of the park miss by inches in one case [Kelly Johnson], and run up against a gale in the other [Freeman]. A muffed routine pickup in the outfield [Inciarte] is parlayed into another base. Hunter Cervenka‘s fabulous run comes to an end. Instant replay calls once again go against Atlanta [Error Aybar]. The [entire] offense fails to put much of anything together (again), and a fine pitching performance [Julio] goes by the wayside again.

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  258. 261 Gil in Mechanicsville May 14, 2016 at 12:25 pm

    I watched the game last night up until the Royals scored three in the eight. Went to bed and watched a previously recorded episode of the “Factor” (DVRs are great because you can pare down almost any 1 hour show to a respectable 40 minutes…. Even less in some cases.

    Anyhoo…. You are right VOX, it is like they are going through the motions. Not all of them but enough. A sure sign a team has given up. The one thing Jonny Gomes refuse to allow to happen last season. I think it is the number one reason why Fredi will be gone soon. No one really blames him but at this point, the team no longer fears him. Think Aybar would be patrolling the 6 hole if Bobby Cox was still in the dugout. He would pull him off the field in the middle of an inning….

    They ball bouncing past Francor was a bad omen that portended of things to come. Not mentioned was Incarte taking the ball out of Aybar’s glove on a pop fly behind short. Could have been disastrous.

    So, what to look forward to? Fredi being reassigned to the scouting, department, someone who will be given a whip and a chair and told to straighten out the clubhouse and a slightly better record because some of the kids will begin to appear on the scene.

    If you are going to lose, I would rather it be with the future and not the past. At this point, I cannot believe the Braves give a rip about the money still owed to Aybar. I have to think he has Luis Tiant syndrome. No matter the reason, he is stinking up the joint and of all the cancer causes, his may be one of the worse. I don’t want Albies and Dansby exposed to it….

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  259. 262 berigan2electricboogaloo May 14, 2016 at 1:16 pm

    Some fine opining V…
    I do agree with much of what you are saying…I think “they” overestimated the bouncebackablility (A real word, 😆 ) of several players…and when players are basically forced to come here (vs a team with at least a shot of getting into the playoffs) you are dealing with the bottom of the barrel. Where it’s basically come here , go to the minors or leave baseball.
    I think Roger McDowell has worked some minor miracles in the past but the guys he had had a chance to work with the last 2 years…just are basically hopeless. And Kevin Seitzer was able to do a lot with guys with potential in Toronto but here…who really has potential? he probably has helped FF get back on track, Nick M, perhaps even Frenchy….and while I was out for most of the game and missed seeing Aybar hit, he did seem to be hitting it harder …but with no results…
    I also think they have been constrained financially more than they will ever admit…they HAVE to be losing money…starting last year when folks stopped coming once the team tanked last 2 months….so between the lack of good players available and moola (and H.O. stinking in more ways than one) it’s not helped the situation…
    I did hear some decent news on baseball tonight (I am trying to give up their website, but I really like Tim K, Buster,(who I rarely see on the show come to think of it) and host Adnan Virk , hate Karl Ravech) And Tim was saying with Strausburg off the free agent list, the pitchers available really are nothing to write home about, so trades will be the big ways teams improve their rotations…
    I am guessing the braves may have to hold onto Teheran til the trade deadline to get max value for him….

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  260. 263 Vox O'Reason May 14, 2016 at 4:22 pm

    The Braves released AAA catcher Ryan Lavarnway today. It’s a bit puzzling to me. He’s a better defensive catcher than either AJP or TFlow. And none of them are gonna wow you with their bats. Why release him? For Anthony Recker? I don’t get it.

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  261. 264 Gil in Mechanicsville May 14, 2016 at 4:36 pm

    Ber I am surprised you do not watch the MLB channel (213) on DirecTV. Much more baseball oriented and less politics.

    Several different formats. The one I find most annoying is Mad Dog out of New Yourk…. Very typical loud mouth Yankee…

    Fortunatly, I still know how to operate a remote.

    Lavarnway? I would think it might well have been Lavarnways choice.

    Well, my parking lot is filling up… I really need to sell some stuff. I got my 92 Lexus back from my deadbeat grandson. Kids…. Bah! At least it still runs but kids should never be intrusted with a fine automobile. I had a set of Boston Acoustics speakers in it which were over $800. The only reason the two rear speakers ar in it is because I don’t think he could figure out how to get to them. Tore the door panels off to get to the mid ranges…. Out of the will he is!

    I will clean it up an sell it at auction I guess… SIGH!

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  262. 265 berigan2electricboogaloo May 15, 2016 at 2:30 am

    Gil, did the grandson have a feel the Burn sticker on the bumper? :/ 😉

    Ber I am surprised you do not watch the MLB channel (213) on DirecTV. Much more baseball oriented and less politics.

    Several different formats. The one I find most annoying is Mad Dog out of New Yourk…. Very typical loud mouth Yankee…

    Gil, I do watch it at times…mainly the 1 hour highlight show(Had to look it up, Quick Pitch) that runs over and over at 1 am til…mid morning? The in game stuff…it’s interesting for awhile, but I like the structure of a show like Baseball Tonight….when it’s done right….which isn’t often. Sunday night baseball should just be called, hour long ad for the requisite Red Sox/Yankees game…So, Mon, Tues, Weds…baseball tonight…none Thurs, Fri, or Sat…cuz no one follows baseball anymore, apparently….
    Oh well…

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  263. 266 berigan2electricboogaloo May 15, 2016 at 2:31 am

    Jonathan Mayo and Jim Callis of MLB.com have published their latest mock draft, which is free to all. Within it, the MLB.com duo projects Mercer outfielder Kyle Lewis (who was recently interviewed by MLBTR’s Chuck Wasserstrom) to go first overall to the Phillies. Florida lefty A.J. Puk, who has been projected to go 1-1 by some draft gurus, goes to the Reds at No. 2 in Callis and Mayo’s latest attempt to peg the first round, and they have prep lefty Jason Groome (an oft-speculated 1-1 candidate himself) going to the Braves to round out the top three.

    No, please….no 😦

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  264. 267 berigan2electricboogaloo May 15, 2016 at 2:51 am

    Ok, enough of the negative stuff….how about that game last night????
    Folty is clearly a man on a mission…..didn’t even smile after getting the win (really seemed peeved at the slow actions of both E-Rick and CJ on the potential double play-good thing for them, no runs scored)
    And Daniel Castro made such an amazing play at 2nd base, that F.G. should just say he is now the SS….I get the feeling F.G. would bench him, but Coppy is sick of eating money and said keep running him out there no matter what….
    But to see the team score 5 runs….felt like 10. And seeing Mallex get the first triple of his career (and amazingly…the first triple by ANY brave this year) was very good to see as his average had dipped down to .213 I think

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  265. 268 berigan2electricboogaloo May 15, 2016 at 2:53 am

    ” get the feeling F.G. would bench him”….him being non-slick E-Rick

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  266. 269 Gil in Mechanicsville May 15, 2016 at 7:01 am

    Day game today… I have no idea who we will see. Day game after night game, code for day off for your regulars. Not sure who that is anymore other than F5F and Markakis. I guess Malex and Incarte will be in the outfield but infield is anybodies guess. Maybe Ebar will get to rest up….

    And didn’t Castro make a really nice play late in the game?

    Was nice to see the Braves score some runs wasn’t it. Folty looks like he has arrived doesn’t he? It takes time for these kids to “get it”. At first they think they have to strike out everybody, after all, aren’t those the guys who make the highlight reels?

    Drive for show, putt for dough… Should be the mantra in every baseball locker room.

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  267. 270 Gil in Mechanicsville May 15, 2016 at 6:19 pm

    Pretty impressing outing from Wisler. Same could be said of the Royals’ patched together assemblage. 13th inning, tied at 2. Home plate ump has been spotty to put it mildly.

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  268. 271 Gil in Mechanicsville May 15, 2016 at 7:40 pm

    Okay… Even with a loss, I see hope, light on the horizon etc…. Just need to get some offense to go with this good pitching.

    Braves run themselves out of an inning twice but these are young kids who otherwise would still be playing in AA… I can deal with it.

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  269. 272 berigan2electricboogaloo May 15, 2016 at 8:40 pm

    I kept flipping away when the Royals were up….Knew they would win, amazed it took so long….Krol looks to be a keeper!

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  270. 273 Vox O'Reason May 16, 2016 at 8:08 am

    Baseball:

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  271. 274 Vox O'Reason May 16, 2016 at 8:17 am

    Wisler and Folty are for real. No longer part of “the future”. They have arrived. I need to see more of Mallex, but the kid has more than just speed. He’s a keeper.

    Yep, we’re beginning to see some of the fruits of the rebuild. Just have to supplement it.

    Naturally, this 2016-2017 Free Agent class is one of the weakest in years, But there are a couple of intriguing names. Jose Bautista is having a monster year, but will probably cost an arm and a leg… and maybe another jaw.

    I’d love to see Yoenis Cespedis opt out of his Mets deal and jump to ATL. How cool would that be?

    I think the 2017 team will have a the expected Ozzie/Dansby/Rio arrivals. I think we’ll find our catcher via trade, and I think we’ll send Nick somewhere at this season’s midpoint and sign a FA power bat corner OF in the offseason. The good thing is that Mallex has CF, and Ender can play either LF or RF, so there are no defensive concerns. Just bring the BOOM.

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  272. 275 Vox O'Reason May 16, 2016 at 8:29 am

    And before you poo-poo the idea of the team spending any meaningful FA dollars for next year, remember they did make an offer to Justin Upton to return this year.

    I don’t expect a FA spending spree, but I do foresee 1 meaningful acquisition.

    The team currently only fields 4 major league caliber hitters in Freddie, Nick, Ender and Mallex (he’s earned that distinction). They’ll bring up 3 more in the aforementioned Ozzie/Dansvby/Rio. That leaves only catcher as an everyday need, but I still think they’ll trade Nick to seek more HR’s from their OF. So where will those 2 newcomers come from?

    The catcher should come via trade, and the power should come via FA. That’s the way I see it, anyway.

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  273. 276 Vox O'Reason May 16, 2016 at 9:03 am

    The top prospective FA OF’s for ATL are Cespedes (if he opts out), Bautista (unreasonable $$), Colby Rasmus, Josh Reddick, and Ian Desmond.

    Desmond is having a heckuva year, and playing a very solid CF for TEX. He will cost some $$, but not the top $$. Don’t sleep on him. Rasmus and Reddick are solid names to remember. The downside to Rasmus and Reddick are that they both bat LH, but they do average 25/21 HR’s a year respectively. Desmond is a RH averaging 19 HR’s a year. Bautista and Cespedis could bat backward and I wouldn’t care.

    My dream lineup for 2017?

    1- Mallex Smith (L), CF
    2- Dansby Swanson (R), SS
    3- Freddie Freeman (L), 1B
    4- Yoenis Cespedes (R), LF
    5- Ender Inciarte (S), RF
    6- Jonathan Lucroy (R), C
    7- Rio Ruiz (L), 3B
    8- pitcher
    9- Ozzie Albies (S), 2B

    That is a lineup that could compete for a WC.

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  274. 277 Vox O'Reason May 16, 2016 at 9:11 am

    The Braves should trade Milwaukee Julio, TFlow, and a lesser pitching prospect for Lucroy now.

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  275. 278 Gil in Mechanicsville May 16, 2016 at 9:23 am

    Yes, but not next year. Too many rookies in your starting lineup. That said, you have to start somewhere and bringing the kids up by June would knock the edge off of them. The Braves are improving, too late to make any difference this season, too big a hole to climb out of and not enough offense to make a serious push.

    The Phillies are a lice story this year but they will fade. Their schedule gets tougher. Hey, it’s still way early but to be honest, I am viewing this season like it’s extended spring training. Just looking to see what direction the pitchers are headed in etc.

    I don’t blame Grille for yesterday’s loss. He is still not 100% and won’t be until September or so. He is more of a 7th inning guy now. The homerun he gave up was not a bad pitch, not even a strike really… Oh well, that’s baseball…

    By the way, looks like Odor got it the best punch. Batista telegraphed his punch and, well, you know….

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  276. 279 berigan2electricboogaloo May 16, 2016 at 9:25 am

    V, that would be a dream lineup…dream on! 😉 No….it would be great…but…I don’t think the braves can put everything on getting Cespedes, when not only the Mets but a lot of other competing teams will want him too…
    Looking at the F.A. hitters….man, as thin as the pitchers, right?
    Reddick… 12, 12, and 20 HR’s the last 3 seasons…granted, Oakland isn’t the best home run park but still…and, he has a .254 lifetime B.A. .316 OBP…
    Why does BJ pop into my mind when I see those numbers?
    Ian Desmond, .264 .313 OBP…hmmm…

    Isn’t Carlos Gomez a free agent too? Sure is a high energy guy…has trouble staying healthy…
    So V, I assume Teheran brings us Lucroy?
    A bigger pool of players are guys you could trade for of course…would take a lot longer to filter them…
    Cards have way too many hitters, but don’t seem to need pitching…right now…Who would you take and or trade for???
    http://espn.go.com/mlb/team/stats/batting/_/name/stl

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  277. 280 Gil in Mechanicsville May 16, 2016 at 9:32 am

    One more point about the hockey game that broke out yesterday in Texas. Fights in hockey are usually between guys already on a slippery surface, who have pads on and cannot swing their arms except from the side (why they try to pull the opposing player’s jersey over their heads). When you have fights in basket ball, baseball etc, it’s guys who are unencumbered. I expect both teams to get fined, players suspended etc.

    Of course maybe Odor got confused thinking hey, they are from Canada eh?

    Going to be ugly the next time Texas plays the Jays in Toronto, probably in the play-offs.

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  278. 281 berigan2electricboogaloo May 16, 2016 at 9:36 am

    I got distracted and it meant my post was started then finished a bit later…oh well…V, and I agree at least! 😉 Gil, you ok trading Julio for Lucroy?

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  279. 282 Gil in Mechanicsville May 16, 2016 at 9:40 am

    Yes, LuCroy would be a nice addition but Milwaukee would want Coppy’s first born too… Other teams know the Braves’ needs and will wait them out. I know the Braves will make some trades but I also think they will try to go the home grown route too. Takes longer but very few Mike Trouts out there now that steroids are taboo.

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  280. 283 Vox O'Reason May 16, 2016 at 9:47 am

    And now.. Stuff.

    Berigan, this is just for you. Ted Nugent’s list of reasons to vote for Donald Trump:

    Obama is against Trump
    The Media is against Trump
    The establishment Democrats are against Trump
    The establishment Republicans are against Trump
    The Pope is against Trump
    The UN is against Trump
    The EU is against Trump
    China is against Trump
    Mexico is against Trump
    Soros is against Trump
    Black Lives Matter is against Trump
    MoveOn.Org is against Trump
    Koch Bro’s are against Trump
    Hateful, racist, violent Liberals are against Trump

    Bonus points

    Cher says she will leave the country
    Mylie Cyrus says she will leave the country
    Whoopi says she will leave the country
    Rosie says she will leave the country
    Al Sharpton says he will leave the country
    Gov. Brown says California will build a wall

    Sounds like the kinda president the US needs!

    Hard to argue…

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  281. 284 berigan2electricboogaloo May 16, 2016 at 10:20 am

    Heh, all those people would have hated Cruz too…Republicans even more, cuz Cruz is…you know, Conservative, and actually wants to cut spending. Listen to Trump, he doesn’t want to cut much of anything . Trump is to the left of even McCain and Romney…but, whatever…People voted for zero not once, but twice…USA has made it 240 years, can’t expect much more out of a nation in this day and age….

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  282. 285 Gil in Mechanicsville May 16, 2016 at 11:32 am

    What is scary guys is I saw this coming 30 something years ago. Getting off the gold standard and promoting credit spending… What did they expect?

    A lot has been said about protectionism and free trade. Problem is, the only people getting free trade are the folks we are trading with. They put up all kinds of barriers to prevent us exporting goods.

    I said 40 years ago, do not expect me to work for .50 per hour. Our standard of living is higher. I hear folks say, well, would you want your I phone to cost $1000 ? False statement… It would mean Apple would make $5 less per phone they assemble.

    Big business is always looking for a way to squeeze the little guy. So much so that the tycoons feel guilty later in life and try to figure out how to buy their way into heaven by giving away all their money.

    I was lucky, I had a pretty good job but it took me a while to get to it. Like they say, sometimes you have to kiss a lot of toads before you find your prince.

    Trump was not my first choice, not my second choice, not even my third… but at this point, he is my only choice. I think Romney is being disingenuous with all his vitriol against Trump. He may as well switch parties and officially become the Democrat he already is. He was not my first, second or third choice when he ran either.

    To be honest, the more I hear folks run down Trump, the more inclined I am to vote for him. Keep on and I will put up yard signs and donate money….

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  283. 286 Gil in Mechanicsville May 16, 2016 at 11:36 am

    I feel sorry for my grandkids, more and more they are having to work two jobs. Working more than 40 hours per week but no overtime pay. Companies don’t feel they have to offer benefits any longer. Hey, I worked a bunch of crap jobs too until I became employable… but at least I had options.

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  284. 287 Vox O'Reason May 16, 2016 at 11:36 am

    For me personally, there is but one singular reason to vote for Donald Trump:

    He is not Hillary. Period.

    8 years of Obummer has thrown us in the toilet. Hillary will pull the handle. There will be no turning back. She’ll double down on Government Healthcare implementing a full 1 payer system, she’ll kill the oil and coal industries in the name of “environment”, she’ll continue to gut the military, she’ll finish what Obummer has started in obliterating public education, and she’ll saddle every working American and their children and their grandchildren with the bill.

    Worst of all, she’ll appoint at least 1, and possibly 4 new ultra-liberal Supreme Court justices.

    She will at that point have control of the Healthcare industry, the education system, the media, the military, the energy industry, and the “justice” system. America will become a true socialist nation both in name and action.

    We will no longer work for a paycheck. We’ll work for the gubmint and hold out our hands for an allowance.

    Donald Duck could be the GOP nominee and I would vote for him.

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  285. 288 Vox O'Reason May 16, 2016 at 4:51 pm

    Great news!

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  286. 289 berigan2electricboogaloo May 16, 2016 at 5:33 pm

    Guys, I do get where you are coming from…I won’t say never trump…but I have never seen a “republican” cause such strife in the party, even after McCain and Romney. So many long time conservatives are against him (and trump trashes folks so completely , they have to completely go against everything they believe in if they come back and support him, trashing Cruz=trashing conservatives….stupid on trump’s part, but that’s the only thing he really knows how to do.

    Mark Levin and Sean Hannity were great friends, now I see Levin constantly run down Fox and the puppets for trump(and I agree completely , the 2 irishmen are forever kissing Don’s butt, Hannity , by far the most… Hannity is persona non grata to me after pretending to be a conservative all these years , only to boost to laughable levels, the strip club owning , Democrat supporting, womanizing , liar over Cruz ). ____ that smug, fat faced drip.

    And don’t believe for a second the crap he and others say that it’s only establishment folks that don’t like trump. I hate the establishment too, and they are a big reason for trump…but I have several friends that are hard core conservatives that will not vote for Hillary’s funder. I am part of a conservative group on facebook. over 3000 folks, and I would say 80% are against trump. That’s a real problem.

    I just hope if there is some sort of smoking gun out there against him, it comes out…before the election…cuz the dems refuse to lose…presidential elections. And if Hillary keeps tanking, then Biden, Fauxahontas or even the cuddly lil socialist will take over, and every one of them would do better against Trump than Hillary will…

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  287. 290 berigan2electricboogaloo May 16, 2016 at 6:27 pm

    I just hope if there is some sort of smoking gun out there against him, it comes out…before the CONVENTION I meant to type…
    sigh…
    back to baseball for me! 😉

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  288. 291 Gil in Mechanicsville May 16, 2016 at 7:17 pm

    Ber, I’m pretty sure George Soros will have his minions working overtime to dig, throw, invent some dirt on the Donald.

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  289. 292 Gil in Mechanicsville May 16, 2016 at 9:51 pm

    Watching O’Flaherty come in with men on base is like watching someone throw water on a grease fire…

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  290. 293 berigan2electricboogaloo May 16, 2016 at 11:04 pm

    Gil, like most Dems, Trump is good friends with Soros it appears 😦 http://truthinmedia.com/trump-funding-george-soros-to-build-chicago-trump-tower/

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  291. 294 berigan2electricboogaloo May 16, 2016 at 11:11 pm

    missed most of the game (shockingly, folks at the restaurant were ok with a college baseball game being on tv)
    All you need to know about the game and the team this year, via DOB’s tweets

    David O’Brien ‏@DOBrienAJC 2h2 hours ago

    Freeman leadoff double in 6th, fifth time #Braves have had leadoff guy on. Haven’t scored yet.

    Francoeur’s homer was only the 3rd for #Braves in 440 ABs vs lefties, and first by someone other than Freeman.

    Francoeur’s homer was just 10th for #Braves and their 2nd with someone on base; the other was by Drew Stubbs, who’s now with Rangers..

    1st multi-homer game since opening day for #Braves

    #Braves fall 8-5, majors-worst record slips to 9-28 including 1-3 on 10-game trip

    On a night when Aybar struggles (again), both Swanson and Albies had big nights (again) on the farm.

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  292. 295 Vox O'Reason May 17, 2016 at 7:53 am

    Gil, like most Dems, Trump is good friends with Soros it appears

    Don’t believe everything you read on the internet…

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  293. 296 Vox O'Reason May 17, 2016 at 8:07 am

    Regarding Ozzie and Dansby…

    It’ll come. They’ll be here. But the team (Coppy) is trying to allow Aybar every opportunity to regain some trade value. At the moment, he has zero. Zip. Nada. And as much as he’s hurting the team on the field, he’s hurting them even more by having no trade value. They were counting on using him at the deadline. BTW- the same can be said for Alexi Ogando, whose numbers overall aren’t that bad, but late and in close games he’s been horrendous. But I’ve veered off the path here…

    If the team was more concerned with game to game performance, Daniel Castro would be starting at SS every night. But there is a plan, and it’s being played out.

    Every year, and you can go back and check me out on this, every year there is at least one team that needs a solid SS to help make a push to September. It never fails. Aybar was supposed to be that trade chip. At the moment, he has only the value of a cow chip.

    Look, I don’t like him. At all. I think he’s mailing it in and cashing game checks. But he’s not doing himself any favors either given that he’s a FA after this season. And if that finally clicks in his dense head then he might actually start playing to his talent level. Maybe if he were being represented by a real agent and not Roc Nation he might be getting some decent advice. As it is, he’s probably being told he’s a rockstar.

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  294. 297 Vox O'Reason May 17, 2016 at 8:13 am

    One more thought on that…

    Perhaps he’s sulking over being dealt to a rebuilding team, but if he were getting good advice from his agent, he’d know that a good performance in the first half would land him on a contending team for the second half. And it’d mean a chance at a championship and an even better deal in 2017.

    Wake up, dude. Even an apparently “me first” guy like yourself ought to recognize an opportunity that is rapidly slipping away.

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  295. 298 Gil in Mechanicsville May 17, 2016 at 9:13 am

    Good morning folks…. Well, Williams Perez did what Williams does last night, pitch to contact. Unfortunately, the Braves reverted to what they do, fail to make plays behind him. With Williams, who was not particularly sharp in the first inning would have still escaped serious damage had plays be made behind him.

    When you have a ball hit you in the glove, you are supposed to make the play, just saying.

    Perez is never going to be a strike em out guy. He is going to give up hits because on some nights, the ball just drops in. The biggest disappointment was the number of time the Braves had a runner on third and failed to score.

    And enough of this pitcher hitting eight. You want an extra lead off guy at the top of the order, start the game that way.

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  296. 299 Gil in Mechanicsville May 17, 2016 at 9:16 am

    Aybar is just another in a long line of under performing projects selected by the Braves. They keep trading the cow for magic beans but the beans turn out to be infertile.

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  297. 300 Vox O'Reason May 17, 2016 at 9:25 am

    I – for some God-only-knows-why reason – decided to take a stroll through the old neighborhood, over at the ajc.

    What a mistake that was!!

    If you think it was bad (with a complete lack of understanding) when the team was winning, it’s a complete grease fire now.

    Attack after attack after attack, with no real opinion or discussion. Just bitching and moaning by a bunch if internet geeks who apparently know how to build and manage a major league baseball team, but somehow aren’t employed in that area (if employed at all).

    In my humble opinion, people who spend more than 1 hour a day killing imaginary people and creatures online should be banned from blogs where they have to interact with real people (and creatures).

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  298. 301 Vox O'Reason May 17, 2016 at 9:59 am

    I just ran across another “mock” draft for this year’s amateur draft that is coming up June 9. There are a couple of things that strike me here, and of course I also have an opinion. Shocker!

    Even though Coppy has repeatedly said that the team is looking for a college bat with the #3 pick in this year’s draft, yet another “expert” has the team taking a high school pitcher. By almost every account, college LHP A.J. Puk is going either #1 or #2, because he’s that good coming out of college.

    But the pitcher that’s getting most of the buzz is a kid named Jason Groome, a LHP out NJ. This kid is being called a “generational talent”. He’s considered a strong candidate to be taken at #1 himself. As a HS senior, the kid is already 6’6″, 180 lbs. When that frame fills out he’s going to be stout. His fastball sits consistently around 96 mph, as a high schooler.

    Cincy at #2 is a lock to take Puk if he’s there, and some “experts” think Philly is going to take college OF Kyle Lewis with the top pick. (That’s the guy that I wish the Braves could draft. Raw power… and alot of it.) If that happens, Groome will be sitting there when the Braves pick, and most think he’s too good to pass up.

    So what does that do to “The Plan” to take a college bat? Well, let’s think about this a minute…

    Why do we want a college bat? Because we need a shorter track to the major league squad, right? Here’s where it starts to get fun for baseball geeks like me. Did you know the rules changed about trading prospects recently? (That’s how we got Dansby less than a year after he was drafted.) The Braves may well take this rare talented HS pitcher at #3, then go to a team in the middle somewhere, who has no shot at any of the top picks, and dangle Groome. Yep, maybe we can find that bat close to or even already in the majors by dangling the “generational talent”.

    I like it. It makes the baseball draft a little more fun since for the most part you don’t hear from any of these draft picks for 4-5 years, if at all.

    So I say all this to simply say… don’t freak out of the noise about taking a HS pitcher gets louder as we get closer to June. He could still turn into a bat, sooner than later.

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  299. 302 Gil in Mechanicsville May 17, 2016 at 10:00 am

    hey, I’m a guilty as the next guy when it comes to frustration with the current team occupying the home dugout in Atlanta but It has mostly to do with poor defense. Like I said, pitchers like Perez are no going to strike out the side.

    With the current team, Greg Maddux would have been hard pressed to win ten games a year,

    Okay, reload…. New game tonight. Blair’s turn to put in a stellar performance. He is going to have a clunker every third game or so but I can live with it if the defense will stop turning outs into base hits.

    The Braves are not good enough to cover up continued poor play by the defense. Pretty soon no one really cares, just go up, take your swings and take a seat on the bench. Pretty soon the paper bags will begin to appear in the stands over the heads of the 15 people who show up.

    Even Ms Josie commented when I turn the game on of how much this bunch of misfits reminds her of the movie Major Leagues…. I told her Skip Carey dealt with the problem much like Bob Uker by drinking. If I were having to announce games for this team, I’d drink too.

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  300. 303 Vox O'Reason May 17, 2016 at 10:22 am

    I have gleaned a little info from Sporting news about the top guys in this year’s draft… for your enjoyment:

    A.J. Puk, LHP, Florida

    Where will he be drafted? No. 2 to Reds (Jonathan Mayo, MLB.com); No. 1 to Phillies (Baseball America); No. 3 to Braves (FanGraphs); No. 1 to Phillies (Jim Callis, MLB.com).

    What they’re saying: “Despite some early season struggles, which have not been uncharacteristic for the Iowa native, Puk has been showing No. 1 starter stuff more and more often as the season progresses.” — Perfect Game

    “Control is somewhat questionable with him, but his stuff is the most pure of this entire draft. Any lefty who throws in the mid 90’s, with power breaking pitches, is an entertaining selection.” — Taylor Ward, Scout.com

    “Though he has dealt with back spasms and hasn’t dominated on a regular basis, Puk has wipeout stuff at his best.” — Callis

    Kyle Lewis, OF, Mercer

    Where will he be drafted? No. 1 to the Phillies (Mayo); No. 2 to the Reds (BA); No. 3 to the Braves (Fangraphs); No. 2 to Reds (Callis).

    What they’re saying: “(Lewis) hit quality pitching in the Cape Cod League last summer and has dominated in the offense-minded Southern Conference this spring.” — Baseball America

    “Lewis looks like a right-handed version of Jason Heyward at the same stage of their careers, though he figures to deliver more power and less defensive value. With his leverage and bat speed, he has easy pop to all fields. Lewis’ swing is busier than most scouts would like, but his approach is generally sound.” — MLB Pipeline

    “Lewis obviously has a lot of luster to him, but the questions that follow a small conference player will always circle on how good a hitter he actually is.” — Ward

    Jason Groome, LHP, Barnegat (N.J.) High School

    Where will he be drafted? No. 3 to Braves (Mayo); No. 5 to Brewers (BA); No. 1 to Phillies (Fangraphs); No. 8 to Padres (Callis).

    What they’re saying: “Groome has everything to be a top-of-the-rotation left-handed starting pitcher, from his 6-foot-6 frame to the potential to have three above-average to plus offerings. The fastball is already there, up to 96 mph and sitting 92-93 mph over the summer, and in the 90-94 mph range in the early stages of the spring. Groome features a nasty curve as well, with tight rotation and bite.” — MLB Pipeline

    “At 6-6, 220 pounds, Groome touches 96 mph, but sits 90-94 mph with his fastball. Groome could be a great addition to the Phillies already improved rotation, as he has the makings of a future ace.” — Fangraphs

    “Groome is unanimously considered the top amateur baseball player in the country.” — SI.com

    Corey Ray, OF, Louisville

    Where will he be drafted? No. 7 to Marlins (Mayo); No. 10 to White Sox (BA); No. 6 to A’s (Fangraphs); No. 3 to Braves (Callis).

    What they’re saying: “Ray is in the conversation, along with Senzel, for the nation’s best hitter and position player.” — Ward

    “Ray provides a dynamic combination of tools, including an ability to hit for average and power, plus speed and solid arm strength. The Chicago area prep product is lauded for his work ethic and makeup.” — Perfect Game

    For me, I would be happy with any of these picks. Lewis and Ray need no explanation. One of those should be available at #3. Lewis may have a higher celing, but Ray is probably closer to ML ready.

    I have already stated what I’d do with Groome… I’d trade him immediately while his stock is high.

    But Puk… If he were still around at #3, and I doubt he will be, I’d have to take a look. That’s a tough one.

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  301. 304 Vox O'Reason May 17, 2016 at 11:20 am

    Fredi Gonzalez fired…

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  302. 305 Vox O'Reason May 17, 2016 at 11:20 am

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  303. 306 Vox O'Reason May 17, 2016 at 11:25 am

    Well, it’s done. I have had my reservations about Fredi’s in game moves, but I don’t think any guy is going to do much better with this group.

    It sucks in that the pitching is starting to come around. I would have liked for Fredi to be here at least when some offense showed up. But maybe that’s the issue.

    Hopefully the next guy can motivate a lethargic Erick Aybar. Maybe the next guy will simply bench a lethargic Erick Aybar. And maybe that’s one of the things that got Fredi fired. In that I cannot disagree.

    I’m interested to see who takes the reigns and what changes follow…

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  304. 307 Vox O'Reason May 17, 2016 at 11:26 am

    Let the speculation begin…

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  305. 308 Vox O'Reason May 17, 2016 at 11:27 am

    Curiouser and curiouser. Easily pegged as a placeholder.

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  306. 309 Vox O'Reason May 17, 2016 at 11:28 am

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  307. 310 Vox O'Reason May 17, 2016 at 11:44 am

    On the Braves flagship station 680theFan, beat writer Kevin McAlpin makes the case that last night’s “lackluster effort” on defense was the final nail in the coffin, and specifically points to Aybar.

    He also makes the very good point that the promotion of Brian Snitker is a pretty good indication that the team will probably go outside the organization to find the next permanent manager.

    I would like to say that I agree to a point, except that Snitker has already managed many of the newer guys already here, and the ones to come. I think it could be a function of making the transition easier on the youngsters. I think that could weigh heavier than an intent to completely bypass TP or EP.

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  308. 311 Vox O'Reason May 17, 2016 at 11:46 am

    Bowman: The Braves also fired bench coach Carlos Tosca. Eddie Perez will now be the bench coach and Marty Reed the bullpen coach.

    Another prophet star for me.

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  309. 312 Vox O'Reason May 17, 2016 at 11:47 am

    Correction…

    Can I still have half a star?

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  310. 313 Vox O'Reason May 17, 2016 at 11:48 am

    OK… I like this. I think Marty Reed is an up-and-comer who has done great work with the youngsters just now beginning to emerge. It parallels when the Braves handed the pitching keys to Leo back in 1990.

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  311. 314 Vox O'Reason May 17, 2016 at 11:53 am

    IMO, Eddie Perez’s baseball acumen was being wasted as bullpen coach. Glad he’s “moving up”.

    Brian Snitker is a little more bombastic than Fredi, who has always been a laid back guy. Not saying that’s bad or good. Just the way it is. This team needed a wakeup and a shakeup. He might just be the guy to do it.

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  312. 315 Vox O'Reason May 17, 2016 at 11:55 am

    irony.

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  313. 316 berigan2electricboogaloo May 17, 2016 at 12:06 pm

    Well, I am sure F.G. feels better, after having the blade hanging over his head for so long….

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  314. 317 Vox O'Reason May 17, 2016 at 12:26 pm

    As I opined earlier, I think the positioning of the very familiar Snit is simply to help the kids transition.

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  315. 318 Vox O'Reason May 17, 2016 at 12:34 pm

    One has to wonder now if this is a prelude to a promotion for more of the youth movement. The Super 2 date is sometime around June 5, I believe. I think you’ll see a couple more guys at that point. Tyrell Jenkins is also in that mix.

    I wonder if the Johns will now make a final call on which of Ozzie/Dansby will transition to 2B, and get those guys together at AAA. It would seem that the youth movement is now taking on a somewhat accelerated feel.

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  316. 319 Vox O'Reason May 17, 2016 at 12:35 pm

    One more positive byproduct…

    We will no longer have to tread across the Fredi/Freddie spelling minefield. That’s a plus for us here in the blogosphere. Confusion was also shown the door today.

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  317. 320 Vox O'Reason May 17, 2016 at 12:36 pm

    John Hart is now on the radio. Stand by…

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  318. 321 berigan2electricboogaloo May 17, 2016 at 12:44 pm

    John Hart/Coppy….”we knew there would be some bumps in the road, but we really put together a quality offense and bullpen together, it sure wasn’t rejects and retreads…we expected more out of this elite lineup, and the sucker…err, the new manager will get every opportunity to lose a ton of games and go away in 2017 leaving in place someone we will actually give a shot to being the manager for a few years…

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  319. 322 berigan2electricboogaloo May 17, 2016 at 12:45 pm

    I’m guessing 😉
    Listening to Mark Steyn filling in for Rush….

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  320. 323 Vox O'Reason May 17, 2016 at 12:48 pm

    John Hart on 680theFan. Fairly frank.

    “We’re not putting this at the feet of Fredi Gonzalez.”

    “We’re sitting here at 9-28… It’s time to hear a new voice.”

    “[Snitker]’s a great communicator. Brian had all those guys (youngsters). He [is] absolutely the right guy for us.”

    “I think ultimately this club is better than 9-28. We’ll see if a new voice can fix this club up.”

    — He danced around pinning absolute blame. Said there is plenty of it to go around.

    “We’re gonna have to catch the ball alot better.”

    “Quite frankly our bullpen is not what we had hoped it would be.”

    “Our position players are just farther away. We might move Swanson to AAA… that might be something that could happen at some point. I don’t want to just rush these guys up here.”

    “Believe me, I’ve had alot of calls [because of new park, farm system]… there’s gonna be a long line of people that want to come in here and lead this team.”

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  321. 324 Vox O'Reason May 17, 2016 at 12:50 pm

    I tried to hit the highlights and type fast… 🙂

    Actually Ber, Hart took some of the blame on himself (and Coppy) for some of the players they brought in. He said they all had to do a better job.

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  322. 325 Vox O'Reason May 17, 2016 at 12:56 pm

    Hart said it falls on him and Coppy as well as the scouting dept. who assembled this year’s squad.

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  323. 326 Vox O'Reason May 17, 2016 at 1:01 pm

    You have to give him credit for saying that is wasn’t Fredi’s fault, that they all share the blame. And it’s true. But at some point a lackluster team does need to “hear a new voice”. I’m glad I missed the game last night. Apparently it was dreadful from an effort perspective. I understand that Joe Simpson was lambasting the team on TV during the 1st inning shenanigans for what looked to be lazy effort.

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  324. 327 Vox O'Reason May 17, 2016 at 1:29 pm

    If I were named interim manager today, stuck with the current roster, here’s my lineup for tonight’s game:

    1- Mallex Smith (L), CF
    2- Ender Inciarte (S), LF
    3- Freddie Freeman (L), 1B
    4- Nick Markakis (L), RF
    5- Gordon Beckham (R), 3B
    6- Kelly Johnson (L), 2B
    7- AJP (L), C
    8- Daniel Castro (R), SS

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  325. 328 berigan2electricboogaloo May 17, 2016 at 1:46 pm

    Hart is probably better at taking the blame at this point….still the “bad” guy, and I am sure glad to be it to take heat off of Coppy….
    V, hopefully at this point they will let the new manager put out the best players there…doesn’t help the kids to have slackers out there…

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  326. 329 berigan2electricboogaloo May 17, 2016 at 1:49 pm

    or help the pitchers to have guys making errors behind them all the time…

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  327. 330 Vox O'Reason May 17, 2016 at 2:09 pm

    Nobody likes crappy D. Especially when you have guys on the roster who can actually catch.

    One of John Schuerholz’s first acquisitions as Braves GM was SS Rafael Belliard. Not a guy who was gonna tear the cover off the ball, but boy could he catch ’em. Same for Otis Nixon in CF. Why? Because he wanted a good reliable D behind his young pitching staff. The “homeboy upstairs” is still upstairs, just further upstairs. The philosophy isn’t too far gone.

    We have a guy or 3 who can catch ’em in the OF. It’s time to let our modern day Rafael Belliard, Daniel Castro, catch ’em in the IF.

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  328. 331 Vox O'Reason May 17, 2016 at 2:13 pm

    Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha…

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  329. 332 Gil in Mechanicsville May 17, 2016 at 2:37 pm

    What’s the old adage? You snooze, you lose… Took a nap and awaken to find the Braves have finally dropped the hammer on Fredi. Too bad but he was saddled with a bad team who had given up.

    Sloppy play? Yeah, when you get hit in the glove and you drop the ball, well, that was just the tip of the proverbial iceberg.

    My guess was Snitker and Fredi had their differences, it’s why he was demoted to Triple A. So, Fredi will have to make do with how ever many millions the Braves are paying him for the rest of the season and will likely end up on someone’s coaching staff. Carlos Tosca had to go because he was Fredi’s guy.

    I think TP has been offered the job before but for whatever reason, has never really pursued it. Snitker has been around a long time. He was a manager for the R Braves when the Triple A franchise was here in RVA.

    I do hope the Braves do a bit less shifting. Defensive shifts rely heavily on pitchers being able to make pitches. With such a young staff, I think they should stick to the basics and allow hitters to get what they earn and take some of the thinking and burden of making perfect pitches off the kids.

    Yep, at this point there is little to gain bringing up Ozzie before June. That said, he will be here sooner than later.

    Look for the Braves to package Aybar with something of value to get rid of him, or not…. Either way, he will be gone pretty soon.

    Drafts are for three years from now. Especially pitchers. I look for the real talent to come from the International Signings…. Can always use a good young shortstop who can grow into a third baseman. Still need a good catcher. They are out there, just cannot be had for a box of cracker jacks.

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  330. 333 Gil in Mechanicsville May 17, 2016 at 2:52 pm

    So, Chipper trying to figure out who is the spy in his “inner” circle.

    If I were Chipper, I would shun the job. he does not need the money nor the heart ache. Guys like Perez make better managers. Chipper had a lot of natural ability, I think it would be hard for him to understand a lot of guys don’t.

    So, who’s next? A.J. Heinch? He’s my bet…

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  331. 334 Vox O'Reason May 17, 2016 at 2:53 pm

    Still need a good catcher. They are out there, just cannot be had for a box of cracker jacks.

    And one of the better ones was removed from the potential FA market this year too. The Pirates just extended Francisco Cervelli for 3 more years. He was one of my Top 3 available after this season. The FA market will be thin, with only Matt Weiters as a real offensive weapon.

    Interesting, though. If you look a the Top 10 prospects in baseball at the catcher position, which I recently did, the Pirates have 2 of those Top 10, yet extended Cervelli 3 more years.

    Reese McGuire is #4, and a defense first catcher. But he’s young and has time for his bat to catch up. Gap to gap power to both fields that will put the ball over the fence occasionally. Good arm; strong leader. For some reason, I am reminded of what was said when a young 21 year old Brian McCann was pressed into duty out of AA. McGuire just happens to be 21 years old. ETA: 2017.

    Ellias Diaz is #6. At 25 years of age, he’s ready now. He had his elbow cleaned up recently and is out until mid-season, but should also arrive full time in 2017. He is a contact hitter with occasional power. Alot of “experts” felt he’d take over as the Pirates starter next year, but with Cervelli’s new extension, Diaz is a certain trade candidate.

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  332. 335 Vox O'Reason May 17, 2016 at 3:04 pm

    Not sure this is news…

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  333. 336 Vox O'Reason May 17, 2016 at 3:05 pm

    Oh, yeah. Alan Butts is the team’s bullpen catcher, but Eddie would don the tools and catch a 2nd pitcher if necessary.

    Marty Reed isn’t gonna do that. Duh.

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  334. 337 Vox O'Reason May 17, 2016 at 3:07 pm

    I am hearing that the team informed Fredi after the game last night that he was being let go. The news didn’t break until today.

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  335. 338 Vox O'Reason May 17, 2016 at 3:26 pm

    2nite’s lineup (with NO Error Aybar):

    1- Markakis, RF
    2- Inciarte, LF
    3- Freddie, 1B
    4- AJP, C
    5- Beckham, 3B
    6- KJ, 2B
    7- Daniel Castro, SS
    8- Aaron Blair, P
    9- Mallex, CF

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  336. 339 Gil in Mechanicsville May 17, 2016 at 3:40 pm

    So here is the cold hard truth. In the above line up, there are three legitimate everyday major league players. Markakis, Inciarte and Freeman. Mallex is a rookie and being a rookie, he makes rookie mistakes. He is coming but could have used another season in triple A. Ski, Beckham and KJ are journeymen. Guys who would give you bench depth but not everyday player.

    Castro is a good utility guy. Not an all-star but a good solid defensive player. Most likely he will be traded like many of the Braves other middle infielders.

    Arron Blair is still a work in progress. A good young pitcher but you never know who will show up and how the home plate umpire will affect him. Because he is a rookie, he will not be given the benefit of the doubt on borderline pitches.

    So, good luck Snit. Tough going into battle when you are at half strength at best.

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  337. 340 Vox O'Reason May 17, 2016 at 5:02 pm

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  338. 341 Vox O'Reason May 17, 2016 at 5:04 pm

    Makes sense to me. But a (former) catcher was not a bad move either. That said, I like the new arrangement.

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  339. 342 Vox O'Reason May 17, 2016 at 5:11 pm

    Snit, per DOB:

    “It’s thrilling. I’m excited about being here. It’s bittersweet because Fredi is a good friend of mine. We went through a lot together here. He’s a good man. But it’s kind of part of what we do, part of the business.”

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  340. 343 Vox O'Reason May 17, 2016 at 5:49 pm

    Coppy, per DOB:

    “This isn’t Fredi’s fault. No one is saying it’s Fredi’s fault. If you want to really have it laid at anybody’s hands, it can be at mine and at John’s. (But) even when I spoke with Fredi… it was time for a new voice, a change.”

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  341. 344 berigan2electricboogaloo May 17, 2016 at 9:41 pm

    well…perhaps Mr Blair isn’t quite as ready as we thought he was from the first few starts….
    I didn’t see the first 6 innings, how come they let him take such a beating?

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  342. 345 Vox O'Reason May 18, 2016 at 7:52 am

    It was all about location. He was just missing locating his fastball, and they were not missing hitting it. As for the beating, if AJP holds onto Beckham’s throw, they get out of the 1st inning giving up only 1 run. The team committed 3 errors in the game. Killers.

    Not only that, but they left a ton of men on base. If I recall correctly, AJP left the bases loaded twice, and left 2 on another time. Freddie also left the bases loaded once. One hit in any one of those AB’s would have changed the game completely.

    Oh… I think Bud Norris has settled into his role. He was very good coming in to relieve Blair.

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  343. 346 Vox O'Reason May 18, 2016 at 8:52 am

    AJP left 7 men on base, Freeman 4, KJ 4, Castro 3… all totaled the team left 21 men on base, 8 in scoring position.

    That is NOT a recipe for victory no matter how many runs your pitcher defense gives up.

    That said, Blair might could use a few starts back at AAA to work out that location issue. Maybe Tyrell Jenkins gets a start or 2. Why not?

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  344. 347 Gil in Mechanicsville May 18, 2016 at 9:07 am

    Well, they are a scrappy bunch… Yes, the first inning error was a killer. Especially for a young pitcher. These kids have not yet learned how to shake off misplays behind them. Of course, they are getting plenty of experience with which to get inoculated to it this season.

    Yes, young Arron Blair might still need a little more Triple A seasoning. Who else do they have down their who would like to get their brains kicked in?

    So, how many balls has A.J. dropped at the plate this season. By my count I think it is five so far.

    Mallex Smith will never be the same. I hope those two home runs don’t ruin him…. I hope I am not being pessimistic…

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  345. 348 Vox O'Reason May 18, 2016 at 9:37 am

    Mallex Smith will never be the same. I hope those two home runs don’t ruin him…. I hope I am not being pessimistic…

    Mallex showed the same kind of occasional power in the minors. It’s not anything new. Snit calls him “wirey”. No worries…

    If you ask me, it’s a good example of pitch recognition. If they’re gonna pitch him inside, he’s quick enough to turn on it.

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  346. 349 Vox O'Reason May 18, 2016 at 9:39 am

    So, how many balls has A.J. dropped at the plate this season.

    Several, not to mention a couple of dropped popups. A few of those have directly led to runs, too. As good as he was last season, he’s killing us this year. I still contend it’s his eyes, both at and behind the plate.

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  347. 350 Gil in Mechanicsville May 18, 2016 at 10:46 am

    Well, at least A.J. is only signed for one year. Not like they are paying him a ton of money but from what I gather listening to John Hart last night, the Braves don’t have a lot of financial flexibility right now. Having to eat contracts add up after a while. These are not the Yankees or Red Sox or Dodgers who seem to have the ability to print their own money.

    The statement that the team is underperforming I thought was an epic understatement. At this point, simply not losing 100 games will be a huge turn around. hey, it could happen. The schedule does get easier doesn’t it?

    So, Tyrell Jenkins or Manny 2.0? Who will we see next week? Do the braves take a chance on Blair developing PTSD or do they send him back to Gwinnett for R&R?

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  348. 351 Vox O'Reason May 18, 2016 at 11:35 am

    IMO, Tyrell Jenkins could make Blair’s next start. He starts today (actually, it’s a morning game that has already started), and could fall in line for Blair’s next start if they don’t let him go too long today. Too bad the off day isn’t one day earlier…

    As for financial flexibility, it doesn’t matter for 2016. Too late to spend any real $$ this season anyway. They can take on a contract or 2 at the deadline, though, and have said as much in regard to picking up some more compensation draft picks.

    But this offseason is different. The team only has $44,676,042 committed thus far, and will begin to see the benefit of The Battery.

    Braves CEO Terry McGuirk has repeatedly stated for the record that payroll would be going up. In fact, let me cite an interview with him by the Atlanta Business Chronicle from November 2015…

    <b>ABC</b>: *If revenues increase like expected, will payroll increase?*
    
    <b>TM</b>: *Absolutely. We are not going to be the Los Angeles Dodgers, which have become unsustainable. The Dodgers' operating theory is so unsustainable that they themselves have said, "We’re going to reduce $100 million of payroll." It’s crazy what they did and they now know it. New owners do this. Almost every time baseball has a new owner they sort of go haywire and then they come back down. We’ve been in the middle of the pack as far as payroll — that’s not where we want to be going forward. We’re going to be much better.*
    
    <b>ABC</b>: *Can we expect to see a top 10 payroll team?*
    
    <b>TM</b>: *I think that’s where we want to be. I think we would expect ourselves to be. The proof is in the pudding. We have to have all of this coalesce and work. Our confidence level is so high that it’s as close to being in our plans as we can get it right now as far as our operating plan and how everything we are doing.*
    
    <b>ABC</b>: *When can we expect to see the Braves in the top 10 in terms of payroll?*
    
    <b>TM</b>: *I won’t give you a timetable, but you will start seeing major jumps 1/1/17.*
    

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  349. 352 Vox O'Reason May 18, 2016 at 11:36 am

    Crap!!! What happened to my formatting?

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  350. 353 Vox O'Reason May 18, 2016 at 11:38 am

    Lemme try to post that interview again…

    ABC: If revenues increase like expected, will payroll increase?

    <b>TM</b>: <i>Absolutely. We are not going to be the Los Angeles Dodgers, which have become unsustainable. The Dodgers' operating theory is so unsustainable that they themselves have said, "We’re going to reduce $100 million of payroll." It’s crazy what they did and they now know it. New owners do this. Almost every time baseball has a new owner they sort of go haywire and then they come back down. We’ve been in the middle of the pack as far as payroll — that’s not where we want to be going forward. We’re going to be much better. </i>
    
    <b>ABC</b>: <i>Can we expect to see a top 10 payroll team? </i>
    
    <b>TM</b>: <i>I think that’s where we want to be. I think we would expect ourselves to be. The proof is in the pudding. We have to have all of this coalesce and work. Our confidence level is so high that it’s as close to being in our plans as we can get it right now as far as our operating plan and how everything we are doing. </i>
    
    <b>ABC</b>: <i>When can we expect to see the Braves in the top 10 in terms of payroll? </i>
    
    <b>TM</b>: <i>I won’t give you a timetable, but you will start seeing major jumps 1/1/17. </i>
    

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  351. 354 Vox O'Reason May 18, 2016 at 11:39 am

    WHAAAAAAAAAAAATTTTTTTT?!!!!!!!!!!!!????????????

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  352. 355 Vox O'Reason May 18, 2016 at 11:40 am

    Raw:

    ABC: If revenues increase like expected, will payroll increase?

    TM: Absolutely. We are not going to be the Los Angeles Dodgers, which have become unsustainable. The Dodgers’ operating theory is so unsustainable that they themselves have said, “We’re going to reduce $100 million of payroll.” It’s crazy what they did and they now know it. New owners do this. Almost every time baseball has a new owner they sort of go haywire and then they come back down. We’ve been in the middle of the pack as far as payroll — that’s not where we want to be going forward. We’re going to be much better.

    ABC: Can we expect to see a top 10 payroll team?

    TM: I think that’s where we want to be. I think we would expect ourselves to be. The proof is in the pudding. We have to have all of this coalesce and work. Our confidence level is so high that it’s as close to being in our plans as we can get it right now as far as our operating plan and how everything we are doing.

    ABC: When can we expect to see the Braves in the top 10 in terms of payroll?

    TM: I won’t give you a timetable, but you will start seeing major jumps 1/1/17.

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  353. 356 Vox O'Reason May 18, 2016 at 11:40 am

    WordPress gave me the smackdown.

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  354. 357 Vox O'Reason May 18, 2016 at 11:42 am

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  355. 358 Vox O'Reason May 18, 2016 at 11:45 am

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  356. 359 Vox O'Reason May 18, 2016 at 11:47 am

    Yep.

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  357. 360 Vox O'Reason May 18, 2016 at 1:45 pm

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  358. 361 Vox O'Reason May 18, 2016 at 1:47 pm

    Ozzie 1-3 today. (HR)

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  359. 362 Vox O'Reason May 18, 2016 at 2:59 pm

    Aaron Blair down, John Gant up to help the bullpen for a couple of days. No determination yet on who gets Blair’s next start. As you can see from the line for Tyrell Jenkins that I posted above that his command is not quite where it needs to be. He’s probably not gonna make the jump yet. There is some speculation that it could be Casey Kelly from AA, who has had a heckuva year so far. He’s 2-1, with a 2.33 ERA there.

    No mention of ManBan, and probably rightly so. He needs to get that elbow right, and if that takes a few more weeks – even months – then so be it.

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  360. 363 Vox O'Reason May 18, 2016 at 3:00 pm

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  361. 364 Vox O'Reason May 18, 2016 at 3:03 pm

    2nite’s lineup (ugh… Error Aybar):

    1- Inciarte, CF
    2- Markakis, RF
    3- Freddie, 1B
    4- Frenchy, LF
    5- Flowers, C
    6- Error, 2B
    7- d’Arnaud, 3B
    8- Daniel Castro, SS
    9- Julio Teheran, RHP

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  362. 365 Vox O'Reason May 18, 2016 at 3:06 pm

    Fire Snit!!!

    Just kidding…

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  363. 366 berigan2electricboogaloo May 18, 2016 at 3:19 pm

    I wonder if B.S. (doesn’t sound as good as F.G., does it?) had any say in that lineup or if Hart and Coppy told him to play non-slick E-Rick?

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  364. 367 Vox O'Reason May 18, 2016 at 3:38 pm

    Mallex Smith’s past 16 games: batting .347 w/ 4 doubles, 1 triple, 3 HR, 9 RBI, 3 sac bunts, 1 SF, 9 R, 4 SB, .652 SLG, .993 OPS. Not in tonight’s lineup.

    Gordon Beckham’s past 9 games: batting .375 w/ 4 doubles, 7 RBI, 4 BB, .444 OBP and .500 SLG. Braves are 4-5 in those games. Not in tonight’s lineup.

    C’mon, Snit. This is your big opportunity. Stop playing the lefty/righty matchup crap ala FrediG and stop playing Erick Flippin’ Aybar period. Do what successful managers do and analyze trends. Look at the last 10 games and see who’s producing and who’s not. And bench Aybar.

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  365. 368 berigan2electricboogaloo May 18, 2016 at 5:13 pm

    V, you know…I can be a gloomy Gus…at times 😉
    I am very happy that Brian S. has finally gotten a chance to manage in the majors after so many years…but…I think one of the many reasons they went with him was , unlike say, T.P….he could be told to do certain things…
    I am sure Coppy is a Saberwhatyacallit…and while it makes PERFECT sense to old fogies like us that Mallex will only get better against facing lefties by facing lefties…I think folks like that decide someone like Mallex didn’t hit well against lefties in the minors (assuming, don’t have the time to do research now) he won’t here either, so platoons!
    And really, at this point, why not just play the best hitters, til help arrives? I don’t know…I don’t think they really wanted to tank, but maybe at this point, that #1 in 2017 looks good to them… :/
    As has been mentioned before, I am sure “they” want Aybar to turn it around, and be tradeable…but even if he hit .280 for the next 2 months, his average would look terrible….but they are tired of eating contracts ….but guess what? They are going to have to 1 more time at least….

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  366. 369 Vox O'Reason May 18, 2016 at 5:20 pm

    It’s true that Error Aybar cannot get his bat straightened out without playing. I get that.

    I don’t think that Mallex is on a strict platoon. I sorta get sitting him against a leftie who is as tough as Liriano is at home. I just want to continue to see the youth movement.

    But none of it explains playing d’Arnaud over Beckham, who is a RH swinging a hot bat.

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  367. 370 Gil in Mechanicsville May 18, 2016 at 5:44 pm

    Maybe Gordon is tired… As for E-bar… I am at a loss for words… so, what ya’ll said…

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  368. 371 berigan2electricboogaloo May 19, 2016 at 1:10 am

    But none of it explains playing d’Arnaud over Beckham, who is a RH swinging a hot bat.
    V, you got me there…
    Well…Teheran is building up his trade value….

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  369. 372 Vox O'Reason May 19, 2016 at 7:35 am

    Whatever it was worked, so I ain’t complainin’…

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  370. 373 Gil in Mechanicsville May 19, 2016 at 8:40 am

    Wow, a real baseball game last night. Julio looked like a real major league pitcher. The Braves are showing a little power at the plate… Could it be? Maybe? The turning point? Stay tuned….

    To be fair, Julio has looked like a real major league pitcher for a while now, it has just been the rest of the club that has been sub standard.

    For sure, the players know they are the ones who ultimately got Fredi G. fired. Regardless, the team looked better last night, especially Castro. Aybar still looks weak but he knows his days are numbered too. I will be very surprised if he is still with this team at the end of June.

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  371. 374 Vox O'Reason May 19, 2016 at 9:42 am

    I had a very good discussion with my son last night about the firing, the rebuild, the prospects, etc. Keep in mind that he is the very definition of a fringe fan. In fact, he doesn’t really care to watch sports at all, just does so with me when I’m watching, or listening as the case may be. (Hard to believe my son doesn’t love baseball, but it’s true. I’ve always let him be his own person, and I have to say he’s a great kid. But not a big baseball fan. Can’t win ’em all.)

    He really was asking why Fredi was fired, and it stemmed from a comment that Don Sutton made on the radio. Don said he wished that everyone would stop saying that is wasn’t Fredi’s fault. He said if it wasn’t his fault, then he shouldn’t have been fired. His point, though, wasn’t necessarily in defense of Fredi, rather that he felt continuing to “defend” Fredi did nothing but perpetuate confusion. I think his point is quite valid.

    The firing was done. Upper management deemed it necessary and made the change. Now move on.

    I have to say that I agree with his premise.

    But that did spur the whole conversation with my son about “The Plan”, and how the team would become relevant again. Is it all about maximizing cash revenue? Is it about making a successful team? What is the ultimate goal from the owners, etc.

    His best question though, was simply this: How do you know a prospect is going to turn out to be anything? All I could tell him is that you don’t, and that’s why you stockpile them. The more you have, the better your chances of hitting on something. It also centers your focus on your scouting department. You have to have good scouts and you have to trust their assessments.

    So when we all roll our eyes that we picked up another pitcher, let’s just remember that if only 10-15% of prospects ever reach the big leagues, we ought to maximize our chances by maximizing our pool.

    And we ought NOT be afraid to trade some away for a bat. As much as I believe Sean Newcomb will become a top of the rotation lefty, I’d part with him for a power bat right now.

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  372. 375 Vox O'Reason May 19, 2016 at 9:45 am

    Wow.

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  373. 376 Vox O'Reason May 19, 2016 at 9:51 am

    Bowman: The Braves discussed replacing Gonzalez with either Perez or Pendleton for the remainder of this season. But they instead elevated their roles on the coaching staff while accounting for the possibility that both could tarnish their future managerial hopes if the team continues to play like it has through the season’s first six weeks.

    So very true.

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  374. 377 Vox O'Reason May 19, 2016 at 9:59 am

    More Bowman: Though Snitker has significantly influenced the Braves organization over the past 40 years, he has never been deemed a long-term managerial candidate. But Atlanta outfielder Jeff Francoeur likens this situation to the one he experienced while playing with the Phillies last year.

    When Pete Mackanin replaced Ryne Sandberg as the Phillies’ interim manager midway through last season, he was also viewed as a short-term fix. But Mackanin received a two-year deal and the Phillies have continued to exceed expectations under his direction.

    “[Snitker] will be here for the rest of the year, and then at that point, we’ll see if we want to stay there or if it will be a full-out search,” Coppolella said.

    I have not considered Snit to be anything more than an interim answer. But I think Frenchy makes a pretty solid point.

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  375. 378 Vox O'Reason May 19, 2016 at 10:29 am

    Isn’t David Ross retiring after this season? Yes… confirmed.

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  376. 379 Gil in Mechanicsville May 19, 2016 at 11:04 am

    VOX, While I was never the fan of baseball my father was when I was young. Oh, I loved the game but my dad was the guy who would sit in the car to listen to the radio broadcast of the Richmond Vees and later watched every Braves game on TBS. I look back at how much I miss the time I spent with him just watching some really bad Braves teams but seeing some really good players make their way to the bigs via the Triple A clubs in Richmond. My only real wish was I had spent even more time with him, he is truly the one person in my life I miss most. I loved my mom but I truly miss my dad.

    You will be surprised at how much your son learned about life from your interactions. Baseball is truly a constant but it is only the names of the players who change, the game is the same. Life lessons are the same too. Kids always think their friends are smarted than their parents and discover later in life their parents were always right and regret not listening more.

    Baseball is a game and a business. That makes it complicated. I life there is always room on the band wagon. Everyone loves a winner, even if they are dead wrong. Look at Bernie….

    Okay, getting pretty deep in the weeds here so I’ll stop…. Congratulations on raising a son who actually ask you questions, pray he listens and learns from you. Don’t be too disheartened when he doesn’t, after all, it’s why God sent his son. He knew we would not always listen…. At least he gives us a second chance.

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  377. 380 Gil in Mechanicsville May 19, 2016 at 11:07 am

    Okay guys, here is a question for which I cannot find an answer. When did major league baseball change from the soft bases to the hard ones now in use? No one ever got hurt on the soft bag while sliding into one. Why were they changed? Anyone???

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  378. 381 Vox O'Reason May 19, 2016 at 3:02 pm

    Gil, here is an extensive article on “The Bag” that answers many questions. I found it interesting.

    http://espn.go.com/mlb/story/_/id/10902301/mlb-game-bases-hazard-player-health

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  379. 382 Vox O'Reason May 19, 2016 at 3:07 pm

    The bases currently deployed at every major league ballpark — and at thousands of other diamonds across the land — are manufactured by Schutt Sports of Litchfield, Illinois, and are called Jack Corbett Hollywood Bases. They are named after a long-forgotten baseball pioneer who came up with a system in the late 1930s to make bases both tough to move when they’re in play and easily removable when they’re not. The base, tapered so that it could hug the dirt, had a metal attachment at the bottom that was placed in a metal tube sunk in concrete below the ground.

    “They’re called Hollywood bases,” says Orioles manager Buck Showalter, “but they’re from hell as far as I’m concerned. They’re slippery and hard, and they cause all sorts of injuries. We’d be better off going back to burlap bags.”

    There’s no need to go that far back, although it is worth noting that the base Jack Corbett was inserting into the diamond 70 years ago was much more pliable. So was the base Pete Rose was reaching out for when he first popularized the headfirst slide. Over the years, as the convenience of rubber took precedence over the safety of canvas and plastic, the bases have become harder while the players diving and running into them have become bigger and faster. And, thanks to Jack Corbett, the bases still haven’t moved.

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  380. 383 Gil in Mechanicsville May 19, 2016 at 3:48 pm

    So, the reasons given for not making the bases safer are (1) The grounds crew might have to replace one during the game. (2) it would cost more money having to replace them… That second one is a hoot knowing how much cash these guys throw away without a second thought.

    If I were a union rep I would be harassing the heck out of the MLB commissioner’s office over this.

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  381. 384 Gil in Mechanicsville May 19, 2016 at 3:53 pm

    By the way, thanks for taking the time to look for me. I could not find a decent relevant link to my question.

    I guess it will take a serious injury to a Mike Trout or Bryce Harper after he has a guaranteed $500,000,000 contract for MLB to make the change.

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  382. 385 Gil in Mechanicsville May 19, 2016 at 3:54 pm

    The driving force is always money and when the insurance actuaries refuse to insure players, the owners will demand a change.

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  383. 386 Vox O'Reason May 19, 2016 at 4:49 pm

    2nite’s odd lineup:

    1- d’Arnaud, 2B
    2- Markakis, RF
    3- Freddie, 1B
    4- Frenchy, LF
    5- Flowers, C
    6- Beckham, 3B
    7- Daniel Castro, SS
    8- Folty, RHP
    9- Mallex, CF

    The Good: No Aybar.
    The Bad: No Inciarte
    The Ugly: d’Arnaud leading off?

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  384. 387 Vox O'Reason May 19, 2016 at 4:50 pm

    Folks, you can’t make this stuff up… 😆

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  385. 388 Vox O'Reason May 19, 2016 at 4:52 pm

    Wonder if the bases were loaded when he choked?

    Kidding…

    Seriously, I’m here all week. Please tip your waitresses…

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  386. 389 Vox O'Reason May 19, 2016 at 5:13 pm

    Well I can see how it would slow you down some…

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  387. 390 Carolina Lady May 19, 2016 at 5:20 pm

    Wow, finally getting caught up with Braves news – lots of interesting stuff going on. I’m really happy to see Eddie Perez back closer to the team action. I think he’ll be very good as bench coach.

    The neighborhood is finally (mostly) quiet now. Did you know that dozens of chain saws running at the same time have the same melodic effect as a group of 4-year-olds performing at their first violin recital? There are two trees in my back yard that will need to come down: a dogwood and another big oak. Man, I hate to lose those oaks. There’s nothing that can compare with a full, majestic oak covered with moss. Well, what’s done is done, the house is repaired and Kelly, Littlejohn and I are in good health. God is good!

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  388. 391 berigan2electricboogaloo May 19, 2016 at 6:25 pm

    Never thought I would say it, but poor guy!
    One Braves player said there was some blood coming from Aybar’s mouth, and that the bone was so deep in his throat that he couldn’t lift his shoulder because of the discomfort.

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  389. 392 Gil in Mechanicsville May 19, 2016 at 7:03 pm

    Somehow I get the feeling it was Karma… You know, all those live chickens sacrificed by those Latin players trying to remove the curses from their gloves.

    I’ll bet he never eats another piece of chicken that isn’t filleted.

    T’is why you are not supposed to eat herring that hasn’t been salted down and stored. The salt dissolves the bone. Never heard of having to salt down chicken though.

    It is also why we will not let the dogs have small bones…

    Anyway, hope he recovers soon.

    CL, twisters can be mean. I am truly glad it is only your trees that suffered…

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  390. 393 Gil in Mechanicsville May 20, 2016 at 9:23 am

    Go morning fellow stuffians. Well, the Braves reverted to form last night. I’m thinking it might be time for the Braves to donate their gloves to a local little league because they sure don’t appear to have any need for them.

    Folty had some awful luck and it snowballed. Game over early.

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  391. 394 Vox O'Reason May 20, 2016 at 12:13 pm

    We need a catcher. A real one. One that can catch.

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  392. 395 berigan2electricboogaloo May 20, 2016 at 1:00 pm

    V, He’s an EXCELLENT Pitch framer, that is what we all grew up talking about, right? We didn’t? We were so stupid back in the old days…Neanderthals we were…

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  393. 396 berigan2electricboogaloo May 20, 2016 at 2:21 pm

    I see that Sean Burnett opted out of those minor league contact. Seems he was pitching well. I don’t care of you have five lefties out of the pen of they get outs. No one could have been optioned for awhile to see if he could get guys out still?

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  394. 397 Gil in Mechanicsville May 20, 2016 at 2:59 pm

    I guess seeing a guy like John Gant get the call ahead of you sends a message. Greener pastures somewhere else.

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  395. 398 Vox O'Reason May 20, 2016 at 3:14 pm

    Fresh reliever. I expect Casey Kelly to get the callup and start on Monday.

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  396. 399 Vox O'Reason May 20, 2016 at 3:31 pm

    2nite’s lineup:

    Ah, who cares? It has Aybar in it, so…

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  397. 400 Vox O'Reason May 20, 2016 at 3:35 pm

    Ya know, maybe his chicken bone experience has made him appreciate things a little more. Maybe. Doubt it, but maybe.

    So anyway, 2nite’s lineup:

    1- Inciarte, LF
    2- GBeck, 3B
    3- Freeman, 1B
    4- Markakis, RF
    5- KJ, 2B
    6- AJP, C
    7- Aybar, SS
    8- Matt Wisler, RHP
    9- Mallex, LF

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  398. 401 Gil in Mechanicsville May 20, 2016 at 4:54 pm

    I still don’t get the whole pitcher batting eight thing. If you want two lead off guys at the top of the order, put two lead off guys at the top of the order. False positive if you ask me….

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  399. 402 Gil in Mechanicsville May 21, 2016 at 8:56 am

    Woo-wee, that was fun… Hitting two run homers and everything. Maybe next they will bring back infield practice?

    Okay, early game today if we don’t have rain.

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  400. 403 berigan2electricboogaloo May 21, 2016 at 8:59 pm
  401. 404 Gil in Mechanicsville May 22, 2016 at 1:40 pm

    Good afternoon Stuffville, Nice game by Perez yesterday but to be truthful, not really all that different from how he pitched in Pittsburgh, the biggest difference was the defense behind (and in front) of him. He is just one of those pitchers who are going to give up some hits and as a defense, you have to be on your toes and ready to make plays. Some nice ones turned in too.

    The bonus was the fact the Braves scores some runs. Still, only two runs were earned off Morgan. Still enough for a win.

    So, early game today, left handed line up and a rookie pitcher. Let’s go Casey.

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  402. 405 berigan2electricboogaloo May 22, 2016 at 7:03 pm

    Gil, how did Casey look to you?
    Braves scored 2 runs between the 2 games Sat and Sun, and actually won a game…amazing…

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  403. 406 berigan2electricboogaloo May 22, 2016 at 7:04 pm

    after winning 2 of 3 from Philly, only 10 games back….of the 4th place Marlins 😛

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  404. 407 Gil in Mechanicsville May 22, 2016 at 9:25 pm

    Ber, Casey looked like every other rookie pitcher the Braves have tried. Didn’t really get hit hard but it seemed every hard hit ball struck by the Braves was caught and every dink, bloop or Texas leaguer the Phillies hit found gold. So, different day, same results.

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  405. 409 Vox O'Reason May 23, 2016 at 8:25 am

    Played pepper – or some form of it – as a kid. Funny, though. The first thing that went through my head when you said it was picturing the “No Pepper” sign on ballpark walls. How about that? (… he said in his best Mel Allen voice.)

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  406. 410 Gil in Mechanicsville May 23, 2016 at 9:14 am

    One good thing about a dirt infield is the grounds keepers are usually some guy with a riding mower. Yes, pepper is fun and helps build skills you did not know you had. I think the Snitker should bring back infield practice until the players on the current roster become a little more proficient at catching and throwing.

    How bad has AJ been at catching pop ups this season. When you do a little celebratory hop when you catch one, it should give you an idea…. He has now caught three in a row. big whoop… Seriously….

    Thanks for posting that link Ber. What may have been lost in the article was about the shift and how important it is to have a guy who can hurl the ball with speed for it to be effective. Otherwise a guy can kind of set back and wait for a pitch to direct where they ain’t. They could have shifted on me a bunch but it would have been to the other team’s detriment because if a guy threw hard, I had a slow bat and would usually hit the ball on the ground to the opposite field. Not as hard? Line drive over the shortstop’s head. When my back began to give me trouble, I lost my power but I could single a team to death.

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  407. 411 Gil in Mechanicsville May 23, 2016 at 9:21 am

    The Braves sort of reverted to form yesterday. Not that they really stunk up the joint, just futile in their efforts to score runs.

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  408. 412 Vox O'Reason May 23, 2016 at 11:01 am

    You’re probably wondering who “Barker” is. Brandon Barker, 23, gets lost among the bigger named prospects. In fact, he isn’t even listed in their Top 30. But he’s been one of the most consistent starters they’ve had in the minor leagues this season.

    Thus far, he’s made 8 starts (and made 1 relief appearance) for AA Mississippi and posted an nice even 2.00 ERA. In 45.0 P, he has yielded just 35 H (3 HR) while striking out 40 vs. just 12 free passes. He’s holding opponents to a .217 AVG. Those are goooood numbers.

    Last season with the High-A Carolina Mudcats, Barker led all system hurlers in W’s (12) and K’s (109) and was named Organizational Pitcher of the Year.

    Know who he reminds me of..? Brandon Beachy, another guy who flew under the radar but eventually turned into a real gem.

    BTW- He was drafted by the Braves in the 16th round of the 2014 draft out of Mercer University, the same Mercer University that offers OF Kyle Lewis, the big RH bopper that I am praying drops to the Braves at #3 next month.

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  409. 413 Vox O'Reason May 23, 2016 at 11:45 am

    Although Nick Markakis has cooled significantly since roaring out of the gate as a doubles machine in April, I am becoming more and more convinced that he will be dealt at this year’s trade deadline, or thereabout. If he were contributing to the team’s power potential the story might be a little different, but he isn’t. And that is the paradox. His lack of power output makes him expendable by the Braves, but also stunts his trade value to other teams. That happens in a couple of ways. Yes, many teams could use a steady veteran presence who will always give you solid AB’s. But you don’t pay for that kind of an asset at a rate of $11M per season. Yet, if he were on a 20 HR pace, he’d be a bargain. And most teams are looking for more power, “instant offense” if you will.

    Weird, ain’t it?

    Of course, there are still teams that will still be in need of a solid veteran OF to help make the push into September and October. But the market will not be robust, so the offers probably won’t blow anyone away. I would look for nothing more than mid-level prospects and/or bench pieces.

    Nick Cafardo of the Boston Globe mentions the Royals and Phil as teams “looking at” Markakis. If those 2 lead the charge, then the return will probably depend on how much $$ the Braves are willing to kick in. Incentive, you know.

    IMO, the Phillies’ interest will cool after they hit a rough patch and fall out of the clouds they’ve been paying in thus far.

    But the Royals could truly be a fit. Currently in RF they are platooning speedster LH Jarrod Dyson and 10-year minor league veteran RH Paulo Orlando. Dyson has shown a complete inability to hit LH pitching, and Dyson has not been consistent vs. RH. But Dyson has put together a decent season. If you play in the Sabrecats’ sandbox, he is playing to a 0.6 WAR (or barely above replacement level) in 2016. By contrast, Markakis is actually at a dead even 0.0 WAR.

    But Markakis would offer the Royals a steady player and veteran leadership.

    Would the Royals part with the RH Orlando in a deal? Maybe, if the Braves kicked in a bunch of $$. Tough call. And Orlando similarly doesn’t hit for much power, although his OBP is a very respectable .397. That said, Orlando did drop 12 dingers in just 86 games, so the potential might be there. But at age 30, can you still talk about potential? Not sure.

    Orlando might be a better long term piece than Markakis, but he isn’t going to set the press box on fire. (Vague reference.) And he still isn’t the power answer the team needs. But Ned Yost is still looking for someone to “emerge” in RF, and at this point of the season, he might prefer to acquire a Markakis rather than continue to wait. So maybe if the money works right, and the Royals have a decent prospect to include with Orlando, a match might be made.

    Personally, Markakis bores me. And this year, I need to be entertained a little more. KnowhatImean?

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  410. 414 Vox O'Reason May 23, 2016 at 11:47 am

    Clarification:

    That said, Orlando did drop 12 dingers in just 86 games with KC in 2015, so the potential might be there.

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  411. 415 Vox O'Reason May 23, 2016 at 1:53 pm

    ChiSox GM Rick Hahn

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  412. 416 Vox O'Reason May 23, 2016 at 2:06 pm

    Might he want to dance with ATL? We have a LH hitter.

    But wait!! A quick trip through the ChiSox Top 30 prospects doesn’t really reveal a clear match for the Braves. Don’t need more pitching, and not alot of near ready OF or C talent in the upper minors.

    Never mind.

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  413. 417 Gil in Mechanicsville May 23, 2016 at 2:11 pm

    I think Markakis is hitting into a lot of bad luck right now, much like Marteen Prado was early in the season. Pressing, timing etc, something is just off. He will come around. Maybe he is thinking about which team to go to?

    He is earning $11MM per year and that is cheap in today’s market. Give hime a couple of more weeks and he will be facing lower level pitching and his sabermetric ratings will get a boost.

    I don’t think the Braves will have to eat any contract either. We know a team can ride on the backs of one player for about a month and then they are found out. We’ll see.

    I think the Braves are just looking to get a little better. Play up to their potential a bit more. But I agree, Nick will be playing somewhere else by July.

    The Braves are going to start moving pitchers pretty soon. I am curious as to who they can/will sign in the international market. First round picks in baseball are so much different that those in basketball and football. No sure things…. Even when they are….

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  414. 418 Gil in Mechanicsville May 23, 2016 at 2:14 pm

    And just look at Mike Stanton of the Marlins. Oh well, they play the Braves soon, just about the time he will break out I’ll bet.

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  415. 419 berigan2electricboogaloo May 23, 2016 at 2:27 pm

    Personally, Markakis bores me. And this year, I need to be entertained a little more. KnowhatImean?
    V, I do…though I wonder if his recent slump is playing a part in our boredom?
    I didn’t realize how bad it was…
    He hit .296 last year….right now, his average is… .245
    .211 last 30 games, .169 for his last 15 games! Yikes, that’s positively Eric Aybarian…another injury a player is trying to gut thru, that in the end hurts the team?

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  416. 421 berigan2electricboogaloo May 23, 2016 at 2:37 pm

    If the team was any good, I guess we would be wondering why they haven’t rested Nick M…I think the only game he has missed this year was because of a family emergency….he’s 32, and he’s not going to play in every single game….Why not have Frenchy play in RF against lefties once in a while?

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  417. 422 Vox O'Reason May 23, 2016 at 2:50 pm

    …why they haven’t rested Nick M…I think the only game he has missed this year was because of a family emergency

    He did DH in KC. That’s alot like resting. 😉

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  418. 423 Vox O'Reason May 23, 2016 at 2:52 pm

    With today’s off day, it’s a pretty slow new cycle…

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  419. 424 Vox O'Reason May 23, 2016 at 2:53 pm

    Uh, that would be news cycle. Caught that too late for WordPress to let me fix it…

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  420. 425 Gil in Mechanicsville May 23, 2016 at 2:57 pm

    Like I said, I am not worried about Markakis. He will get things turned around. Maybe he is still going through “family problems” code for someone has been sleeping around. You will notice the drop in his production occurred about the same time he took an emergency leave. Since there has been little said about it, I suspect it is “martial” in nature.

    Here is the thing, you had better have lots of boots on the ground to spot young talent before your competitor does and then a good number of quality coaches to get what talent a player has to the forefront.

    And whoever pushed to trade for Olivera should be looking for a new job because they would have zero credibility in my book. For a minute there, I thought the unnamed AL source was going to call him a lollygagger….

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  421. 426 Vox O'Reason May 23, 2016 at 3:28 pm

    <a href="http://nesn.com/2016/05/mlb-reportedly-agrees-to-raise-strike-zone-make-intentional-walks-automatic/&quot; rel="nofollow"b>MLB Reportedly Agrees To Raise Strike Zone, Make Intentional Walks Automatic

    I don’t like it!!!!

    Don’t raise the flippin’ strike zone! Call it the way it’s defined. In fact, let’s see more of the high strikes called. I don’t see how this will improve the game unless it’s designed to increase the HR’s artificially.

    According to ESPN’s Jayson Stark, “Hitters have grown increasingly frustrated with inconsistent low strike calls — the current edge of the strike zone is ‘the hollow below the kneecap’ — and raising that line could generate fewer strikeouts and more balls put in play.”

    In other words, the umps can’t call it, so let’s change it. Another example of caving to mediocrity instead of demanding excellence.

    And Stark said it. “… put more balls in play.” Artificial offensive inflation. I foresee an opposite effect happening, though. I see hitters working to the walk knowing pitchers aren’t going to get the calls anymore. And I also see more walks for the best hitters. Why should a pitcher cave in to a hitter friendly strike zone with runners in scoring position? Why cave in and give up a HR when you can just walk the guy?

    And instead of speeding the game up, it’ll slow it down. The “new” intentional walk will simply be throwing the former low strike to see if they’ll chase.

    And speaking of the intentional walk, I’ve seen pitchers throw them away, and I’ve seen cagey hitters reach out and knock a close one. They aren’t necessarily automatic, so let’s not make them that way. Make the pitchers do their jobs, for cryin’ out loud. They get paid enough. Again, picking low hanging fruit and caving to more mediocrity.

    On one hand, they want to shorten the games. But I ask why? Isn’t that a little like short-changing the consumer? If they really wanted to shorten the games, they’d cut out half the TV commercials.

    But gasp!! That’s never going to happen.

    Next thing you’ll see is a motion to shorten the games to 7 innings. I can hear it now: “Not only will it shorten the game, it will decrease the need for 13 pitchers on the 25 man roster, in turn adding more hitters and increasing offense.”

    Bleh!! Leave it alone!!

    When people in suits tinker with the product on the field, or in the schools, or in the private business sector, or on the battlefront, disaster ensues. Its been proven historically. Baseball will not be any different.

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  422. 427 Vox O'Reason May 23, 2016 at 3:29 pm

    Flip… foiled by WordPress and its formatting again. 😡

    Here’s the raw link: http://nesn.com/2016/05/mlb-reportedly-agrees-to-raise-strike-zone-make-intentional-walks-automatic/

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  423. 428 Vox O'Reason May 23, 2016 at 4:12 pm

    Braves top prospect Tyrell Jenkins toes the rubber for the AAA Gwinnett Braves tonight. Given today’s off day for Atlanta, Jenkins could line up perfectly to start next Saturday’s game vs. Miami at home, a game for which the Atlanta team has not yet announced their pitcher. That would be a 4:10pm start vs. the Fish’s Wei-Yin Chen. Chen was a 6-3 loser when the two teams locked horns back in April, but he yielded only 2 ER over his 6.1 IP.

    Anyhoo…

    If Jenkins can exhibit better command tonight and make an impressive start, I think he could get the callup for Saturday.

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  424. 429 Vox O'Reason May 23, 2016 at 4:14 pm

    … and then there’s this. That would foil my perfect timing. Crudmuffin!!

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  425. 430 Vox O'Reason May 23, 2016 at 4:25 pm

    Here ya go Gil. 2-for-1, and just an hour and a half away. 😉

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  426. 431 Gil in Mechanicsville May 23, 2016 at 5:44 pm

    Driving into Norfolk from Richmond is much like driving into Washington. If I left at 2AM, I could make great time. Anywhere else and I would have o leave 5 hours ahead. Like the TSA, but different….

    But I am intrigued… I am tempted…

    Also this bit of news, the new name for the Mets Double A team is being officially to the (are you ready for the?) The Stud Muffins…. Hey, when you have a league with Flying Squirrels, Yard Goats and The Rubber Ducks… seems a perfect fit for me…

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  427. 432 Gil in Mechanicsville May 23, 2016 at 6:26 pm

    And on a lighter or darker note, depending on where you sit, the Braves no longer have the worse record on MLB. That distinction now belongs to the Twins.. Oh the humanity….

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  428. 433 Gil in Mechanicsville May 23, 2016 at 6:28 pm

    Oh, and if you ask me, the MLB rules committee is looking for love in all the wrong places.

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  429. 434 berigan2electricboogaloo May 23, 2016 at 8:51 pm

    Braves have made a trade for a Baltimore Orioles pitcher I have more details but my cell phone went nutty like I got a virus on the MLB site

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  430. 435 Vox O'Reason May 23, 2016 at 11:07 pm

    It was essentially a trade for the number 76 pick in the draft. They intend to DFA the pitcher they got back. And all that stuff i posted about Brandon Barker earlier, never mind. He’s in the O’s system now.

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  431. 436 Vox O'Reason May 23, 2016 at 11:08 pm

    The Braves now have 5 picks in the first 80.

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  432. 437 Gil in Mechanicsville May 24, 2016 at 7:52 am

    Okay, I guess baseball has moved beyond my feeble brain being able to comprehend. The Braves give up a couple of decent minor league pitchers for a kid making $3MM dollars only to DFA him and pick up third round pick. Pretty pricy third round pick if you ask me.

    It was mentioned that the Braves pitchers were blocked? By who pray tell? Jim Johnson? Eric O’Flearety? And they whine about the price of bases.

    Scary moment experienced by Ryan Vogelsong last night. Those fastballs in the face are nasty.

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  433. 438 Gil in Mechanicsville May 24, 2016 at 7:56 am

    So, 5 picks out of the first 80, How many will be pitchers? 4? 5? Aren’t they blocked? See, I am so dumb when it comes to running a team. Somewhere you need some offense… Maybe they will go for some good hitting pitchers…

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  434. 439 Vox O'Reason May 24, 2016 at 8:44 am

    It was mentioned that the Braves pitchers were blocked?

    Not so much blocked at the current major league level, but blocked in the system. Many higher ceiling arms in the front of the line. Neither of the pitchers sent had cracked the Braves Top 30, and we’re talking a Top 30 that’s loaded with guys like Tyrell Jenkins, Sean Newcomb, Max Fried, Chris Ellis, Kolby Allard, Aaron Blair, Touki Toussant, and several others.

    And if you’ll recall, Coppy referred to the major stockpile of arms as “currency”, so he used some.

    It’s funny… if you look at DOB’s Twitter line, the Braves’ “fans” think this is the stupidest thing. But if you look at the Baltimore side, those O’s fans think Coppy came in with a gun and mask and robbed the O’s.

    IMO, it was a good deal for the Braves. One of the parts of the modern baseball mechanism is the ability to award bonuses your draftees. The last CBA defined a slotting system that layed out a loose ladder of bonus recommendations depending on the pick location. Each team is then awarded a certain amount of “bonus pool” money to spread out among their picks. That amount is commensurate with where they finished among the 30 MLB teams, but it isn’t necessarily a straight line. So teams wait to learn of their pool, which was announced a month or so ago. As expected, the Braves have the 3rd highest bonus pool amount.

    Now…

    Similar to how the team has acquired international bonus slots – or pool money – in recent deals, they also acquired draft pool money in this deal. So now they have more money to spread around. And it’s completely up to the team how they use it.

    So what this does, aside from giving them an additional pick (which I’ll discuss momentarily), it gives them the ability to sign a kid “over slot” high in the draft.

    As we’ve seen too many times recently, there are occasions when a 1st round pick will hold out for a higher signing bonus, and simply go to college instead of signing with the team that drafts them. Mark Appel immediately comes to mind. He was projected as the 1st overall pick in 2012, but fell in the draft due to signability concerns. The Pittsburgh Pirates took a shot at him at #8 overall, but they didn’t have the money to give him the bonus he demanded, so Appel returned to Stanford for his senior season. Houston then took him #1 overall in 2013, and was able to sign him. (He was sent to Philly in the Ken Giles deal… a good example of using “currency” to acquire a need, in this instance a top closer.)

    So by sending 2 fringe pitching prospects to BAL, the Braves add another relatively high pick and add pool money that could allow them to sign their #1 pick over slot if necessary.

    Clear as mud, right?

    As for the pick at #76, it is a compensatory pick between the 2nd & 3rd rounds (compensatory picks being the only type that can be swapped). Here are some players that were taken at #76 in recent drafts… P Chris Beck (2012) has already made his ML debut for the Chisox; DET’s James McCann (2011) is one of the better catchers in the American League; some guy named Giancarlo Stanton.. heard of him? Nick Hundley, Chase Utley, Marquis Grissom,.. all #76 picks.

    So there is definite value in the #76 picks.

    Plus, as I told my son recently, the more picks you make, the better chance you have of picking up a future ML player.

    I think it is a good deal for this team at this time. It fits The Plan.

    Now… the only thing I currently question is this: Why immediately DFA LHRP Brian Matusz, the major league pitcher you took back? Do you know already that he is any worse than LHRP Eric O’Flaherty? If you’re gonna DFA anybody, send EOF into the sunset. He’s already stunk up the joint. Matusz can’t be any worse, can he?

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  435. 440 Vox O'Reason May 24, 2016 at 8:46 am

    So, 5 picks out of the first 80, How many will be pitchers? 4? 5? Aren’t they blocked?

    Well, first, they’re further back in the pipeline. But if the picks are pitchers, then they become currency, just like Brandon Barker and Trevor Belicek were.

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  436. 441 Vox O'Reason May 24, 2016 at 9:12 am

    More draft banter…

    I do believe the team still wants to take OF Kyle Lewis (Mercer University) with the #3 pick. A.J. Puk, the LHP out of UFla is almost a lock to be taken at #1 to Philly, although there is some chatter that they could take Lewis there. But Puk is a college pitcher that has all the stuff and could make an impact sooner than later. He’s a 6’7″, 230 lb. lefty that throws in the upper 90’s. Almost a no-brainer, right? I can’t imagine he falls to #3. If Philly doesn’t take him, Cincinnati almost certainly will. The other top pitcher is high schooler Jason Groome. He’s the big lefty that all the top scouts are calling a “generational talent” and who is drawing comparisons to Clayton Kershaw. He’s a guy that would be hard to pass up if he dropped to #3, even knowing the Braves are looking offense first. I know I wouldn’t complain if Coppy took him at #3. The only way he falls to #3 is if Philly were to shock the world and take Lewis at #1, and Cincy took Puk at #2. I believe Cincy is locked in on Groome, though.

    The other name to remember is Louisville CF Corey Ray. He’s the proverbial 5-tool player that could also go anywhere in the top 3, but probably won’t go to either Philly or Cincy who are looking more at pitching. Ray is finishing his junior year, and has shown an increase in power in each year. In other words, he’s growing into his power potential. This is a guy that could anchor LF for many years to come. And an ATL OF of Ray, Mallex and Ender would cover some serious territory defensively.

    Ray probably has a quicker path to the ML given his college conference has alot tougher competition than Lewis’ Mercer. At least one scout has called Ray a “left handed Andrew McCutchen”. Now granted, that’s pretty high praise and probably a bit of hyperbole. But it does convey a fairy good idea of what kind of talent the kid has.

    Of those 4 guys, 1 will with absolute certainty fall to the Braves. 2 are pitchers; 2 are OF. And honestly, I’d be just fine with any one of them.

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  437. 442 Vox O'Reason May 24, 2016 at 9:23 am

    Courtesy of SBNation:

    Corey Ray, OF, Louisville; 5’11”, 185 lbs; Bats: Left; Throws: Left

    Corey Ray is dynamic. Capital D Dynamic, in fact.

    Ray is the closest OF to a finished product, and will likely be the first chosen, barring steps forward from the others. I would say he’s very much in the conversation to go first overall, but there’s just enough prejudice against players under six feet tall.

    For my money, Corey Ray is very much in line with a Carl Crawford comparison. It’s the same kind of left/left profile, a combination of extra-base power and speed that adds additional bases, as well as offering center field range on defense. Ray played right field his first two seasons at Louisville, in deference to an incumbent in center, but going forward he’ll likely get plenty of opportunities to prove he fits up the middle. Personally, I think he fits fine there, but if a club has a center field option they like already Ray could quite possibly become the kind of dominant defensive force in a corner that Crawford was for much of his career.

    Kyle Lewis, OF, Mercer University; 6’4″, 200 lbs; Bats: Right; Throws: Right

    Kyle Lewis, at this point in his collegiate career, is further along on his developmental path than Austin Wilson was on his at Stanford, with similar tools and less swing and miss to his game. That sounds like a premium prospect to me; what about you?

    Lewis was a multi-sport athlete in high school, and really only focused his energies on baseball his senior season. As a result, he didn’t have much hype, wasn’t heavily recruited, and very much fell into that bucket of ‘toolsy lotto ticket who should really probably go to college’. So he went to college, and lo and behold, he’s turned those tools into skills and production, and looks like a lock for the top part of the draft come June.

    The profile is almost prototypically that of a right fielder, with a big, rangy build, 60 grade or even better raw power, and an above-average throwing arm. He runs well enough right now that he might be able to hold down center at an acceptable level, but that 200 pound figure is going to be 220 or more by the time he gets to the big leagues, I’ll bet, and he probably slows down as a result. Still, even if he slows down a tick or two, he has the wheels to be an above-average defender in a corner, if maybe not an elite one the way Corey Ray might be.

    It’s the power that really stands out with Lewis; he’s capable of hitting some remarkable moonshots, and is beginning to turn those long home runs into often home runs.

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  438. 443 Vox O'Reason May 24, 2016 at 9:33 am

    So Ray has power, but not the kind of WOW pop that Kyle Lewis has. On the other hand, he may be a more complete player.

    Which is better?

    According to Fueled By Sports, Ray’s pro comparison is Andrew McCutchen or Carl Crawford. Lewis’ pro comparison is…

    … wait for it…

    Justin Upton or Jason Heyward.

    So which would be your choice and why? Or would you consider one of the extremely talented LH pitchers if they fell to #3?

    Talk amongst yourselves…

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  439. 444 Vox O'Reason May 24, 2016 at 10:55 am

    Funny… I have been on the Kyle Lewis bandwagon until I did this research this morning. I think I could be falling into the Corey Ray camp.

    I can envision him following a similar path as Dansby. Get drafted, sign, go to Rookie League. Open 2017 in High-A Carolina, and move to AA if warranted. Then really just step away.

    Speaking of Dansby, he went 1-5 last night, extending his hitting streak to 10 games. I seriously won’t be surprised to see him move up to AAA in the next month to begin working with Ozzie in whatever combination The Suits deem the future. I think we’ll see them both in ATL in September.

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  440. 445 Vox O'Reason May 24, 2016 at 11:57 am

    Gil, I recall a couple of times you mentioning Mallex in the 9 hole with a bit of disdain. I ran across an article on SB Nation from back in 2012 that addresses the traditional lineup vs. a more modern approach. I found the article very though provoking, and honestly cannot argue with the logic. Some of it we’ve seen more prominently than just batting the speedster 9th. A good example would be Derek Jeter batting leadoff for so many years. He is not the “prototypical” leadoff guy, but then again he is by the logic dispensed in the article linked below.

    Gotta say, it has made me change my mind about the traditional batting order.

    http://www.beyondtheboxscore.com/2009/3/17/795946/optimizing-your-lineup-by

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  441. 446 Vox O'Reason May 24, 2016 at 12:15 pm

    By the above logic, the Braves lineup should shape up as follows:

    1- Beckham (R), 3B .308/.400/.415
    2- Markakis (L), LF .245/.354/.340
    3- KJ/d’Arnaud (L~R) 2B, .221/.287/.314 ~ .361/.439/.528
    4- Freeman (L), 1B .272/.365/.475
    5- AJP/TFlow (L~R), C .221/.257/.274 ~ .268/.350/.338
    6- Inciarte (L), RF .217/.280/.246
    7- Castro (R), SS .213/.245/.223
    8- pitcher
    9- Mallex (L), CF .243/.282/.417

    (BTW- Did you notice I have Markakis in LF and Inciarte in RF? That should have already been done. Ender has one of the best arms in the league, and a far better arm than Nick at this stage of Nick’s career. I suspect Markakis will remain in RF for now, though, because he has more trade value as a RF than as a LF.)

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  442. 447 Vox O'Reason May 24, 2016 at 12:25 pm

    And hasn’t Chase d’Arnaud been a pleasant surprise? I mean, Beckham has been a surprise as well, but at least he has a track record. D’Arnaud, has come out of nowhere to be a pretty solid place holder.

    (That’s more than I can say for a certain chicken eating SS of lost glory.)

    And shouldn’t Beckham be leading off anyway given the numbers he’s put up thus far? He has bat in the leadoff spot in exactly 16 games over his 9+ years in the major leagues. In those 16 games he’s slashed .280/.357/.500. Doesn’t seem to bother him any. Just sayin’…

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  443. 448 Vox O'Reason May 24, 2016 at 12:30 pm

    I need to make a correction…

    Earlier I noted that the rules allowed you to trade only compensatory picks. I misspoke. It’s the competitive balance picks that can be traded, not compensatory picks.

    My bad… 😳

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  444. 449 Vox O'Reason May 24, 2016 at 12:35 pm

    One last tidbit before I duck out for the day and actually earn my paycheck.

    At least one source says Kelly Johnson is a possible trade target for the Mets to fill in at 1B while Duda is out with a stress fracture in his spine. Not sure how factual that is, but it might be something to keep an eye on.

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  445. 450 berigan2electricboogaloo May 24, 2016 at 2:00 pm

    V, I can’t argue over getting more picks…I just hope this is a deeper draft all the way through….I get the feeling the timing is off a bit ….if this was say, 4-5 years ago…it would be great….look at all the talent the Cubs and Astros have…hitting wise .It has worked out great for the Cubs to go full tilt boogie (blog first? Blog first!) on hitters…and it had worked out great for the Astros… til this year. Hilarious that they need power arms , after they traded their power arms, Folty., and the guy the Phils got…
    Of course, time will tell how good the 2nd thru what, 80 rounds? players will be…in case you guys didn’t know that 😛

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  446. 451 Vox O'Reason May 24, 2016 at 2:53 pm

    Another way to look at the trade is that we sent the 480th pick from 2015 and the 493rd pick from 2014 for the 76th pick in 2016.

    That looks a little better, doesn’t it?

    I don’t know if it’s possible to ever judge the quality of the depth of any baseball draft. Players all develop at different rates… some never do.

    For all we know, 10 years from now we could all marvel at the amazing depth of the 2016 draft.

    And if anybody ever thinks they know all there is to know about drafting talent, remember that all the best scouts passed completely on some dude called Mike Piazza back in 1988, picked in the 62nd round (1,390th overall) only as a courtesy to Tommy Lasorda, who had been a friend of Piazza’s father for many years.

    Mark Buehrle was a 38th rounder (1,139).

    Keith Hernandez was a 42nd rounder (785).

    And our own beloved John Smoltz, a first ballot HOF, picked in the 22nd round (574).

    So as much as we trust the very talented scouts that Coppy and Harty have brought back to ATL, there are always surprises, both good and bad (he says, invoking memories of can’t-miss prospects Brien Taylor, Matt Bush and Shawn Abner).

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  447. 452 Vox O'Reason May 24, 2016 at 3:57 pm

    2nite’s lineup:

    1- Inciarte, LF
    2- Beckham, 3B
    3- Freeman, 1B
    4- Markakis, RF
    5- TFlow, C
    6- KJ, 2B
    7- Error, SS
    8- Julio Teheran, RHP
    9- Mallex, CF

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  448. 453 Vox O'Reason May 24, 2016 at 4:13 pm

    Hey, the Brewers are in town for the next 3 days. Wonder if we could get them to leave Lucroy with us when they go? 😉

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  449. 454 Gil in Mechanicsville May 24, 2016 at 4:50 pm

    I’m sure they could, willing to part with three pitchers and Ozzie? Everything has a price, sometimes you just are not willing to pay it.

    You can probably tell, I did not make it to Norfolk. Oh well…

    I was thinking about the DFA. It does not mean the Braves have to release him, just that he has to clear waivers before he can be sent to Triple A. If another team claims him, they pick up his salary. I expect he will be pitching in Gwinnett next week.

    Also appreciate the vast amount of info VOX.

    I think Markakis’ problems are of the mental variety.

    Kelly Johnson to the Mets, works for me. Nothing against KJ, just pick up some more pitchers to stock pile. What we really need is a catcher but I don’t see many of those lying around unattended.

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  450. 455 Gil in Mechanicsville May 24, 2016 at 4:57 pm

    And as for the line up. I guess it really comes down to the quality of the hitter you have coming to bat than where he bats in the line up. The main reason for allowing a player to hit in the first three spots is to give your best hitter the opportunity to hit more often.

    If MLB has their way, the pitchers will no longer hit so it won’t really matter. Next thing you know they will have courtesy runners.

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  451. 456 Gil in Mechanicsville May 25, 2016 at 8:06 am

    Great ballgame last night other than the Braves being on the short end of a 2-1 game.

    Been said many times, late innings walks are a killer…. Arron Hill was the difference for the Brew Crew. He made four stellar plays which robed the Braves of runs…. Somewhere, Fredi G was saying to his TV, see, it wasn’t me….

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  452. 457 Gil in Mechanicsville May 25, 2016 at 10:21 am

    Having the bases loaded with no outs and not scoring is another.

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  453. 458 Vox O'Reason May 25, 2016 at 11:53 am

    Interesting…

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  454. 459 Vox O'Reason May 25, 2016 at 12:00 pm

    Having the bases loaded with no outs and not scoring is another.

    My son and I had just gotten in the car and just turned the game on as they returned from that half inning. Jim and Don were discussing how the “rocket” hit by Aybar would have likely cleared the bases if it had not been caught and turned into 2 outs. It was a good time to explain the phrase “baseball is a game of inches”.

    Jim went on about how much that hit would have meant to the struggling Aybar, yet he walked back to the dugout having left the bases loaded.

    It is a cruel game sometimes, isn’t it?

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  455. 460 Vox O'Reason May 25, 2016 at 2:25 pm

    Go Braves!!!

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  456. 461 Vox O'Reason May 25, 2016 at 2:26 pm

    Move him on up…

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  457. 462 Gil in Mechanicsville May 25, 2016 at 3:43 pm

    At this point, I think the Braves could have a starting rotation of Glavin. Smoltz, Maddux, Sandy Kofax and Bob Gibson ant they still would not be sporting a record much better than what they have right now. They are so snake bit that at this point they are even afraid of the garden hose….

    Remind me to tell ya’ll a funny story about that some time….

    Anyway, That was the inning that having the pitcher come up to bat with men on first and second with two outs back fired. Of course the way things were going , Arron Hill would have made some unbelievable play to rob him of a triple too.

    On a lighter note… I have to finally admit I am next to useless doing anything that requires physical labor on my cars. I have been fixing my Lexus and got myself into a position where I could not get up… Poor Josie… and thank God for having her around to help me up.

    I did not take and before pictures but I have to believe my grandson has no business doing anything with a tool. He did not bother to ask or find out how to remove the door panels and had broken most of the screw clips to rip the door panel off and had put them back on with deck screws…. Oh well, if you don’t ask me, I can’t tell you how to do it right… That is the problem when someone owes you money, they are afraid to call you….

    So far I have replaced the master window switch, the fuel ECM (it was hidden behind a rear side panel (not my first rodeo, I know where to look) and replaced the broken door lock handle on the passenger side.

    I am so happy the sun has finally returned.

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  458. 463 Gil in Mechanicsville May 25, 2016 at 3:54 pm

    VOX, Dansby could not possibly hit into any worse luck than Aybar. I know the Braves are trying to milk the arbitration clock on both Ozzie and Dansby. They can deny it all the want but there is no other reason for their delay.

    The Braves are not going anywhere this year or probably next other than moving to Sun Trust Park. They keep talking about players not being ready. Of course I think the are trying to move players like Kelly Johnson and Eric Aybar so they will have room on the 40 man roster.

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  459. 464 Vox O'Reason May 25, 2016 at 4:07 pm

    Actually, I was simply saying to move him on up to AAA. I expect to see Ozzie in ATL before too much longer. I’d love to see them together in Gwinnett before that happens.

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  460. 465 Vox O'Reason May 25, 2016 at 4:10 pm

    Of course I think the are trying to move players like Kelly Johnson and Eric Aybar so they will have room on the 40 man roster.

    I think KJ will be traded. I think they’d trade Markakis for the right return, but he’s not helping anything right now. Nothing really needs be said about Aybar’s trade value, or lack thereof…

    I think Julio could be traded, if the right combo of major league bat plus prospect(s) is dangled. Coppy holds all the cards there.

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  461. 466 Gil in Mechanicsville May 25, 2016 at 4:57 pm

    Yes, Julio is likely to be the Braves’ lone representative to the All-star game this year. Win loss record be damned. He is pitching like the Ace everyone had hoped for. So, affordable contract, young, sub 1.00 era. On a winning team he would have eight wins by now.

    I know the Braves are showcasing Bud Norris too. He has done a decent job as a reliever this year. Don’t be surprised to see another team make a trade for him. The return won’t be a first round pick but it will be more than they can get for Eybar at this point.

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  462. 467 berigan2electricboogaloo May 25, 2016 at 5:03 pm

    V, I heard …hmmm, former GM with the bad toupee on baseball tonight mention Julio being an obvious trade “piece” (hate that word when it’s used with baseball players) and how the Red Sox have a bigh time 3rd base prospect…just looked him up…a mere kid…sigh… http://www.overthemonster.com/2016/1/27/10840714/red-sox-prospect-rankings-rafael-devers-mlb

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  463. 468 Gil in Mechanicsville May 25, 2016 at 5:05 pm

    Julio is like a Mercedes right now, a lot of folks will want to take him for a test drive but they won’t want to pat the sticker price. Problem for the Braves is they really don’t have anyone else with whom to replace him.

    It is the classic horns of a dilemma. You need front of the rotation pitching but you need middle of the line up power. Tought to do unless you have some really deep pockets.

    We can only wait and hope and pray the wrong players don’t get injured.

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  464. 469 berigan2electricboogaloo May 25, 2016 at 5:08 pm

    Here are the Red Sox prospects at the beginning of the year….lots of hitters…
    http://www.masslive.com/redsox/index.ssf/2016/04/boston_red_sox_top_10_prospect.html

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  465. 470 Gil in Mechanicsville May 25, 2016 at 5:09 pm

    Ber, I would be looking for a Cole Hamels type haul for Julio and I expect that is the message conveyed to any of the team looking at him right now.

    Coppy says he can be had but he won’t be cheap. Might even make the other team take Olivera along with him.

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  466. 471 Vox O'Reason May 26, 2016 at 8:02 am

    Ber, the Red Sox definitely have the prospects to match up with ATL on a deal, and have made no bones about the fact they’d like another strong starter. They’ve been linked to Julio already.

    But Devers is not the guy I want. Why? Well, we have our own big 19-year-old 3B prospect in Austin Riley.

    But they do have a guy that ought to be the first name mentioned, and if he’s not then Coppy needs to say “thanks but no thanks” until he is.

    That’s OF Andrew Benintendi.

    The Boston club has maybe the best trio of young OF already in Brock Holt / Jackie Bradley, Jr. / Mookie Betts. And that doesn’t count C turned LF Blake Swihart, or their backup at all 3 spots Chris Young. It’s almost an embarrassment of riches.

    Which brings me back to Benintendi…

    From the article you linked above:

    ANDREW BENINTENDI, CF, Salem Red Sox

    Andrew Benintendi, the Red Sox No. 1 draft pick in 2015 MLB draft, is rising quickly.

    FanGraphs.com ranked Benintendi the top prospect in the Boston Red Sox organization — ahead of [2B Yoan] Moncada and [3B Rafael] Devers.

    The Red Sox selected this 21-year-old center fielder seventh overall in the 2015 MLB draft. Baseball America polled scouts and player development personnel from all 30 major league teams and the experts ranked Benintendi the college player from the 2015 draft class closest to the majors.

    Last year, he posted a .290/.408/.540/.948 line with seven homers in 35 games for the Short Season Lowell Spinners, then a .351/.430/.581/1.011 line with four homers in 19 games for the Low-A Greenville Drive. He has speed, too.

    If the Bosox want Julio, let ’em come knocking with Benintendi.

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  467. 472 Vox O'Reason May 26, 2016 at 9:26 am

    So after the bullpen was completely depleted last night, including Saturday’s starter Casey Kelly throwing 77 pitches, I expect to see some movement between Atlanta and Gwinnett today. I’m sure Kelly will be sent down to bring up a fresh arm.

    (BTW- Kelly looked pretty good for his 4.0 IP.)

    Joel de la Cruz has not been back to AAA for the requisite 10 days yet, so he’s ineligible. John Gant is in the same boat. Gotta have somebody that can throw multiple innings, so Chris Withrow is not likely. Ryan Weber is a possibility.

    Longshot candidate: Manny Banuelos, who has been on rehab and recently assigned to AAA Gwinnett, although he has yet to make an appearance there. There is some speculation he could make a start tomorrow. He hasn’t fared very well in his previous rehab outings, so he’s a big unknown. I fear he’ll never really realize the great potential he’s shown post elbow issues. Not consistently, anyway.

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  468. 473 Vox O'Reason May 26, 2016 at 9:26 am

    And since Casey Kelly is now out for Saturday, Aaron Blair seems a lock to return and make that start.

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  469. 474 Gil in Mechanicsville May 26, 2016 at 9:52 am

    I can’t believe I watched the whole thing, even if I strongly suspected the final outcome long before it happened. Some pretty doggone good pitching but oh what a woeful offense the braves have.

    Like I said, family woes for Nick, just plain old woes for Freddie. Neith can buy a base hit with men on base. Nick is getting called out on pitches two inches off the plate and Freddie no longer has any clue where the plate is….

    Yep, time to blow this team up. No need to worry about bystanders getting hurt, it looked like a Marlins home game as far as the stands. Thank goodness for all the Milwaukee fans who showed up or the place would have been tomb like.

    yes, it is ugly watching them make the sausage, even more so when you are the hog…

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  470. 475 berigan2electricboogaloo May 26, 2016 at 10:35 am

    Gil, who are you gonna believe, the posted number of 12,869 fans, or your lying eyes? 😛
    Yeah, I watch in spurts…flip away, watch a classic 5-0 or Frasier…then come back to it…
    I sure hope FF and Nick M are in the lineup today…don’t dare rest ’em, they are too important to miss a single game :/

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  471. 476 Vox O'Reason May 26, 2016 at 10:36 am

    There is no specific deadline date for the Super 2 cutoff, but teams often wait until after mid-June to be safe. Hopefully the Braves will go ahead and make the callup of Ozzie at that point to give us a good reason to continue tuning in.

    Another dark-horse candidate is Lucas Sims, the guy who just made the jump from AA to AAA about a month ago. Sims is a holdover from the “old regime”, but is the closest to ace potential of anybody in the vaunted pipeline. He currently leads all minor league pitchers in K’s with 65 punchouts after a dominating performance yesterday, his first such outing since being promoted last month. But this kid has a plus fastball that sits easy at 91-93 and can top out at 95 with late movement. And he knows how to work it to both sides of the plate. To compliment that he has a big ol’ country curve that breaks sharply downward and is his true strikeout pitch. The ol’ Uncle Charlie. That’s the one hitters chase.

    Those 2 pitchers are already major league ready, but the changeup is still progressing. It’s good, but not yet major league good. He throws it well, but has not learned to command it as well as his other pitches. So it isn’t far away. And when that one is ready, he’ll be ready.

    Unless there is an injury that forces him to come up earlier, I don’t expect him until September. But you never know.

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  472. 477 berigan2electricboogaloo May 26, 2016 at 10:37 am

    V, I like the sound of that kid! Thing is, the Red Sox will probably try to give us their failed Cuban outfielder…perhaps a straight swap of Cuban’s then a deal of Julio for Andrew Benintendi?

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  473. 478 berigan2electricboogaloo May 26, 2016 at 10:53 am

    Don’t use guys wonder if “they” factored in a total collapse of attendance? Did they think, oh, it’s the last season at the Ted, braves fans are so very loyal, there will still be 20K + a night?
    I mean, their tv contract sucks…I assume the radio deal is quite small considering it’s often on different stations that we never bothered to find before they got braves games…
    How much do they make on ads in and around the park? I mean, you have what, 6-7 thousand showing up in May…what’s going to happen when it gets hot? I just hope Liberty doesn’t start thinking short term, and lets them spendfreely on international signings…
    I guess coughing up money for a Baltimore pick shows there is still money to spend…still…there just can’t be any money, you know…coming in right now…

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  474. 479 Vox O'Reason May 26, 2016 at 11:00 am

    The Dodgers are reportedly set to promote their 19-year-old phenom pitching prospect Julio Urias tomorrow to make his ML debut.

    So why not bring up Sims?

    And that’s no slight to Tyrell Jenkins, who is also very close and might have actually gotten the callup to start Saturday in Atlanta if his Monday start had not been bumped to Tuesday because of rain. Aaron Blair is almost certain to make that now.

    Before this season is finished, we could be looking at a rotation of Wisler, Folty, Blair, Jenkins and Sims… which is actually the five I figure to be in the 2017 rotation. (It still must be noted that there isn’t a LH in that bunch. Sean Newcomb will fix that before too much longer.)

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  475. 480 Vox O'Reason May 26, 2016 at 11:14 am

    I just hope Liberty doesn’t start thinking short term, and lets them spend freely on international signings…

    There’s an assigned pool for that. And the team has acquired a few extra slots to insure they are able to sign Kevin Maitan, the worst kept secret in baseball. He’s the guy that has drawn comparisons to Miguel Cabrera.

    Baseball America:

    The crown jewel of Atlanta’s targets is Venezuelan shortstop Kevin Maitan, perhaps the best 16-year-old July 2 prospect since Miguel Sano signed with the Twins for $3.15 million in 2009. Where Maitan ends up in the field remains to be seen, but several veteran evaluators have called Maitan a special talent at the head of the class because of his offensive ability. With the Braves the heavy favorites, Maitan’s bonus is expected to surpass $4 million, which would be a record for a Venezuelan player. The Braves are also the favorites to land Abrahan Gutierrez, the catcher on Venezuela’s 15U World Cup team a year ago. Gutierrez could command a bonus of more than $3 million, which would likely make him the second-highest paid player out of Venezuela this year. While Maitan and Gutierrez are standouts, the Braves should have several other top prospects and seven-figure bonus signings in their 2016 class, with Dominican switch-hitting shortstop Yunior Severino another target.

    And I’ve also seen the Braves linked to 16-year-old Cuban OF Lazaro “Lazarito” Armenteros.

    All of these int’l prospects are high ceiling prospects, but also several years away from making an impact at the ML level.

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  476. 481 Vox O'Reason May 26, 2016 at 11:16 am

    I’m sure he’ll still take it.

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  477. 482 Vox O'Reason May 26, 2016 at 12:05 pm

    For those keeping score of such things:

    Dansby Swanson leads all Braves minor league hitters (w/ minimum 85 AB) with a .316 AVG.

    He also leads the system in OBP with .409.

    Slugging? Yep, Dansby again. .503.

    Doubles? Yes… with 16.

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  478. 483 Vox O'Reason May 26, 2016 at 12:08 pm

    Think about this for a minute…

    We actually got Dansby Swanson, Ender Inciarte and Aaron Blair for Shelby Miller. That’s almost unfathomable. One has to wonder of Bill Cosby slipped something in ARI GM Dave Stewart’s drink prior to that deal the way Coppy took advantage of him.

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  479. 484 Vox O'Reason May 26, 2016 at 12:25 pm

    Random thought…

    If Brian McCann were still an Atlanta Brave, and caught Jason Grilli, would the battery be Mac & Cheese? Just wonderin’…

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  480. 485 Vox O'Reason May 26, 2016 at 2:18 pm

    Jason Heyward is currently hitting .217 w/ 1 HR, .276 SLG and .596 OPS in 39 games [numbers courtesy of DOB].

    John Hart turned that into Shelby Miller and Tyrell Jenkins. Then Hart/Coppy turned Miller into Dansby Swanson, Ender Inciarte and Aaron Blair.

    So .217 w/ 1 HR, .276 SLG and .596 OPS turned into Tyrell Jenkins, Dansby Swanson, Ender Inciarte and Aaron Blair.

    That’s how you start a rebuild.

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  481. 486 Gil in Mechanicsville May 26, 2016 at 3:27 pm

    VOX, I still fear a flood, fire, hurricane.. something is going to come along to ruin the Braves rebuild. I don’t mind watching the construction but you would think something, somewhere, sometime a ball would drop in for a hit and drive in enough runs for a win. I know I sure would not want to be near any of these guys during a lightning storm. There run of bad luck is just too deep to ignore.

    Still think Markakis has family issues and Fredi just has issues. He is thinking way too much. Someone please call Chipper’s dad….

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  482. 488 Gil in Mechanicsville May 26, 2016 at 7:40 pm

    Had to watch myself tonight, when Castro made the throwing error in the first inning, I automatically started cursing Aybar…. My bad…

    Guys, I feel so much better tonight I can hardly contain myself. I had steroid shots in my lower back today and I have not had this much pain relief since my dentist used nitrous oxide… They say the relief can last hours, days weeks or months…. I’m praying for the months. Not that I can go play golf or anything but at least I don’t want to go out and beat people up with a lead pipe or anything….

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  483. 489 Gil in Mechanicsville May 26, 2016 at 11:48 pm

    Ho hum, the Braves take another step closer to gaining the number one over-all draft pick in June 2017. The Marlins are next, just in time for Gilcarlos to regain his stroke. Not that the Braves have bad pitching or anything, it’s just to the point that this team may have to go into the witness protection program, then again, no one is watching any longer so maybe not.

    It has gotten so bad that it is like high school girls softball, the only people showing up are the friends and families of the players. some of whom still travel under an assumed name.

    All right, enough of all that negativity. Wisler pitched well, only gave up three runs which was only one more than the Braves. of course the peb gave up three more but what the heck, somebody has to win these things.

    Pretty sure Snitker is thinking less and less about any type of long term contract to manage the big league club. Hey, maybe they could get Ted Turner a shot at making a comeback?

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  484. 490 Vox O'Reason May 27, 2016 at 9:10 am

    The front office probably offered Snit a generous retirement package if he would guide the rudderless ship through the shark infested waters of 2016.

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  485. 491 Vox O'Reason May 27, 2016 at 11:35 am

    The latest Mock Draft over at mlb.com has the 1st three picks looking like this:


    1. Phillies: A.J. Puk, LHP, Florida
    The prevailing thinking has long been that Puk was the guy the Phils wanted to be the clear-cut choice at No. 1. One start doesn’t make a decision, but his dominance in the SEC tournament against LSU could be all Philadelphia needed to cement a decision. High school lefty Jason Groome isn’t out of the disucussion and there are still bats — Mickey Moniak on the high school front and Kyle Lewis from the college ranks are the main names mentioned — still in play.

    Reds: Nick Senzel, 3B, Tennessee
    Perhaps the most advanced bat in this Draft class, Senzel has closed strongly, swinging a hot bat as the Draft rapidly approaches. The Reds would have interest in Puk should the Phils go elsewhere, while Lewis and Puerto Rican high schooler Delvin Perez are still possibilities.
    Braves: Kyle Lewis, OF, Mercer

    Lewis could still go in one of the top two spots, and the Braves would have interest in either Puk or Senzel. Groome would fit the bill if Atlanta really wants to go with upside.

    Please, please, please…

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  486. 492 Vox O'Reason May 27, 2016 at 11:36 am

    WP went weird with the formatting again…

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  487. 493 Gil in Mechanicsville May 27, 2016 at 3:39 pm

    I am never sure how much Word Press likes us or just tolerates us?

    Day two of my back not being on my mind as a constant reminder of how much I hated the quack who operated on me. I am afraid to do too much and afraid of not taking advantage of it while I can…..

    Baseball drafts are so different from every other sport. Last time the Braves tried to jump the shark with advancing a pitcher from College to the majors, they set a record for grand slams surrendered by a reliever…

    Even Chipper Jones and Dale Murphy etal spent their obligatory time in the minors. I think Mallex Smith is a good example of what can happen to a rookie. The kid has talent but he is going to make mistakes. Okay, I can accept that. it is when vets like Fredi and Nick and (oh heck, name anyone) who just look like they can’t wait to get to the showers so they can escape.

    I am wondering if Coppy wished he hadn’t loved his right arm so much?

    To be fair, Nick hit one to deep left center last night that would have gone out before the rains came, after that, the air got heavy.

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  488. 494 berigan2electricboogaloo May 27, 2016 at 6:04 pm

    I again only saw bits of the game…didn’t know there had even been a rain delay, I thought for a sec it was a rerun of the game….I was going to post something last night…but didn’t
    This team is….depressing….as BAD as the braves were in the 80’s, they at least had Murphy, Horner, sometimes Claudell Washington…something to keep you watching…
    When you have F.F. clueless again (after he seemingly found it, was was tearing the cover off the ball) Nick M. looking even more clueless…..this has to be the worst slump of his career…check this out, for May…guess what his batting average is??? Give up? don’t wanna guess???? .159!!!!!! After hitting .302 for April…Is Gil right? Marital issues? Injury? Playing for the worst team since the 1962 Mets? All of the above???
    I mean, I looked at DOB’s twitter posts last night…I can’t remember and don’t really want to , but I think the team is hitting .075 with RISP over the last….I don’t know, 4 games, last week, does it matter how long?? How does that even happen? Not to brag, but I think with a few hours of batting practice , I could hit .075… Most pitchers that swing like 90 year old women can hit .075…it just feels like there is a pall over the whole team…when they perked up a bit, obviously things looked and felt better…now reality has raised it’s ugly head again..
    I really feel bad for Snit. I mean, I’d like whatever they are paying him (bet he is the lowest paid manager out there though) but to know that they didn’t want to give a “Real” potential manager the position cuz…they would lose 110 + games this year…can’t feel good.
    Oh Berigan, he just needs to put his nose to the grindstone, and help the players get the very best out of themselves…for most of the team,….this is the very best. Most of the folks in this lineup…are rejects, and castoffs.
    Frenchy looks like the best player out there right now, that Beckham and the other french named guy…none of those 3 would start for most teams, and they look great here….Inciarte…great defender…but, at the plate…was last year a fluke? Granted he missed a lot of time, but in 81 AB’s he is hitting….235 after 2 hits last night. He has 3 doubles…he is “slugging” .272 2 steals, caught twice. Is he really a full time outfielder? Time will tell….
    Add to that the laughable attendance number they show (14 K last night my…foot) well, it’s not must see baseball….
    V, no wonder you are talking about the draft so much 😉
    Seriously, I know that is what we have to do, and just hope they don’t draft a flop or two (amazing when I saw something recently on players that flopped, some actually did hit in A or AA, then, got hurt, or just didn’t have the ability to hit AA or AAA pitching, and never moved up)
    As a (fairly) wise man sang….the waiting, is the hardest part….

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  489. 495 Carolina Lady May 27, 2016 at 6:15 pm

    Hey, Ber! Watch it with the “like 90 year old women” comments! That’s getting too close to home! 😉 LOL

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  490. 496 Gil in Mechanicsville May 27, 2016 at 7:02 pm

    Talk about being in perpetual rebuild mode, you need only look at the Pirates for 20 years. yes, they have it turned around now for the most part but only after they changed their management structure.

    For all the Bryce Harpers and Chipper Jones, there are dozens of Todd Van Poppels.

    I went to school with a kid named Maury Robinson, heck of an athlete. Was drafted pretty high by the Tigers and made it to Triple A before tearing up his knee or back or something. Anyway, he was our kicker for our football team (actually he was a heck of a running back too but our head coach said he would not be dictated to by a kid so he would not let him play) he was going to get big money playing baseball so he did not want to mess that up. Anyway, the only reason we did not win the championship game is we had no one who could kick a PAT. Did not score a single PAT that season.

    I’m not sure what all this has to do with the Braves but my point is, you have to draft right and even when you do, they have to negotiate a heck of a mine field. If it were up to me, I would not let any try to steal any more bases this season unless we trade our catchers and we are running against them. Bad jumps, bad slides… Take some of the money they are paying the nerds in the front office and hire some coaches who actually know how to teach the art of base running.

    Remember how we screamed about not having a hitting coach back when the Braves were actually winning? When you are not hitting as a team, is it the team, the philosophy. the coaching? All of the above?

    Yes Ber, you are right, there is a problem with the two who were suppose to carry the team. If hitting is contagious, is choking? I know Aybar had an excuse, what about the rest of the team? They don’t have a problem getting guys on, they have a problem getting guys in…. It’s like watching Charles Barkley and Shaquille O’Neal in a free throw shooting contest.

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  491. 497 Carolina Lady May 27, 2016 at 7:18 pm

    Prospects are supposed to be taught these things during their years in the minors. Minors = rookie school. If they don’t learn and gain the ability to execute those skills, they don’t “graduate” to the majors. If the failure rate is rampant, wouldn’t it be prudent to take a look at the “instructors” and/or the overall program being followed?

    Maybe he’s already doing it, but I’d love to see Chipper riding their butts for a month and see what happens. Post-graduate instruction, if you will.

    Just some thoughts passing by.

    Gil, get ready for some more rain. Depression 2 is on the way, I’m told.

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  492. 498 Gil in Mechanicsville May 27, 2016 at 7:50 pm

    Yes CL, I though about you when I watched the weather tonight. Rainy days and Mondays…..

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  493. 499 berigan2electricboogaloo May 27, 2016 at 8:54 pm

    If the failure rate is rampant, wouldn’t it be prudent to take a look at the “instructors” and/or the overall program being followed?
    CL, you are on to something there…no matter who is playing, the braves CANNOT hit sacrifice flies, or cut down on their swings and get a single, or even ground out so a runner scores from 3rd…they don’t seem to realize they need to think, think about not swinging with 2 strikes…even the plunk hitters strike out all the time…

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  494. 500 Carolina Lady May 27, 2016 at 9:14 pm

    I’ve never understood why the Braves have never been able to bunt. The only one I recall being able to lay down a really good bunt was Greg Maddux – and he likely learned it from himself – or maybe from a previous team. If a kid can’t read, write and cipher by the time schooling ends, check the kid. If a lot of kids can’t do the same, check out the curriculum and teachers. Did the team ride the “Fab Four” for so long that those fundamentals have been forgotten? Without them, is this all we can expect? The ship is rapidly sinking and nobody remembers where the life boats are or how to launch them. Well, enough from me! 🙂

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  495. 501 Gil in Mechanicsville May 27, 2016 at 10:16 pm

    CL, You make a very valid point about the ratio of success to failure and how to gauge where the problem may lay.

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  496. 502 berigan2electricboogaloo May 28, 2016 at 3:32 am

    Gil, I forgot to mention, very glad you are feeling better! As someone that has dealt with back pain for 30 years (but not at your levels) I know how debilitating the pain can be, in so very many ways….
    Backs are not to be trifled with either.

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  497. 503 Gil in Mechanicsville May 28, 2016 at 7:55 am

    Thanks Ber, I made the mistake of sleeping on my side last night, won’t go that again… In the era of feeling good, the Braves even rewarded me for not changing the channel, though I was sorely tempted. The Frenchy is a heck of a ball player. Oh what could have been….

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  498. 504 Vox O'Reason May 28, 2016 at 4:20 pm

    Woo hoo!!!

    Heading off to watch the Gwinnett Braves tonight with Manny Banuelos making his first “rehab” start. He probably won’t go very long, but I’m anxious to see anyway.

    Stay tuned… a full report will follow.

    V, no wonder you are talking about the draft so much

    I care about it more this year than most, and surely the present is a big reason why. It’s only a couple weeks away. OF Kyle Lewis is a talent to be excited about. So are pitchers Puk, Groome and Pint. OF Corey Ray seems to be dropping a bit because of his diminutive size, but I still like his potential. I think he could make the major leagues quicker than any most of the others.

    Regardless, there will be a top player available at #3 for sure. And that is why I am excited about it.

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  499. 505 Carolina Lady May 28, 2016 at 4:29 pm

    Enjoy the game, V!

    When I hear about a pitcher being “dissed” because of his small size, I think one two words: Billy Wagner.

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  500. 506 Carolina Lady May 28, 2016 at 4:29 pm

    “OF” two words….. blush

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  501. 507 Gil in Mechanicsville May 28, 2016 at 6:38 pm

    Guys, do not worry about typos, I sure make my share. For me it is due to my habit of not proof reading and being lazy due to spell check. Of course if I were like Miss Josie, I would never notice. She is a speed reading savant…

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  502. 508 Gil in Mechanicsville May 28, 2016 at 6:40 pm

    V, I look forward to your scouting report….

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  503. 510 Gil in Mechanicsville May 30, 2016 at 9:09 am

    1 o’clock game today. Hopefully the Braves will have a bit of offense to support Folty. I expect the Giants to be a bit fatigued from their travels but they are red hot right now. Still, they will be in Atlanta and I am sure the heat will drain them even more. You have to use whatever is at your disposal to assist in your battles.

    It is Memorial Day. A salute and a heartfelt thank-you to those fine young servicemen who died for their country. Old men always send their young men off to war. often for no good reason. Yet they serve, sometimes wholeheartedly, sometimes begrudgingly but they go, never to return. The least we can do is remember them and support the vets who did return. Many with memories they would rather forget and often never spoken of.

    So take a moment to remember and pray for them. May God hold them close and give them eternal peace.

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  504. 511 Gil in Mechanicsville May 30, 2016 at 3:14 pm

    Funny thing, sometimes these guys (The Braves) look and play just like a real major league baseball team. Nice game buy Folty today. Nice and easy, didn’t get rattled by the early homer by Belt. Clutch hitting by Mallex Smith and Gordon Beckham playing like a big league short stop… Time to blow up this team…. playing themselves right out of the number one pick…

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  505. 512 Gil in Mechanicsville May 30, 2016 at 4:03 pm

    Then again, sometimes I think they suddenly remember who they are and forget how to field… Braves hang on to give Folty a well deserved win.

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  506. 513 berigan2electricboogaloo May 30, 2016 at 7:15 pm

    Funny thing, sometimes these guys (The Braves) look and play just like a real major league baseball team.
    Gil, Amen to that! I saw Jeff S. pitch around AJ to pitch to Folty, who struck out, only to see M. Smith triple in 3 runs. And seeing KJ hitting a….sacrifice fly to drive in a run…I completely understood the title to Tim Kurkjian’s new book, “I’m Fascinated by Sacrifice Flies” 😉
    I am wondering if Snit is looking to be the next captain Hook, why take Folty out after 6 innings, and 89 pitches? Is that Coppy’s idea of what should happen? Oh well, at least they still won….

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  507. 514 Gil in Mechanicsville May 30, 2016 at 8:38 pm

    Ber, I thought Snit was a little quick on the draw too but in the big picture view of things, perhaps the new skipper was taking the long view of things. Not wanting to over use Folty, sometimes young guys don;t know when to say enough, maybe he got a call from Coppy…

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  508. 515 Vox O'Reason May 31, 2016 at 7:17 am

    I am wondering if Snit is looking to be the next captain Hook, why take Folty out after 6 innings, and 89 pitches?

    Let’s not forget that Folty began this season still recovering from thoracic outlet surgery without the benefit of a typical offseason routine. They’ll probably treat him with kid gloves for another month or 2.

    And it was only a few short months ago that I strongly advocated converting him to closer. He might just turn out to be the best starter we have in another year or so.

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  509. 516 Vox O'Reason May 31, 2016 at 7:54 am

    OK… real game observation of Manny Banuelos:

    Overall I thought he was solid, especially after a bit of a shaky 1st inning. Actually, in the 1st inning I felt he a was simply trying to throw strikes and left some pitches fat across the plate. Syracuse (WAS) wasn’t missing them and scored both of the runs he allowed (just 1 earned) in that first frame. But he settled fairly quickly and was solid through the rest of his 69 pitches before being lifted. He worked well to keep his pitches down after the 1st inning and was in control for the rest of his outing. Then the Gwinnett bullpen except for the rehabbing Jim Johnson kinda let him down. Actually, only Lucas Harrell and Kanekoa Texeira were the real culprits, but they aren’t in anyone’s projections, so…

    There was one reliever, Rob Wooten whom we re-signed last week after having released him earlier in the month, that looked really strong. He came in throwing hard and throwing strikes. They couldn’t touch him. It’s a funny sport, huh?

    More impressions…

    Rio Ruiz does have some power, sending the Chiefs’ CF to the wall in the 9th for what would have been a game tying HR but instead was a noisy 400′ fly ball out. BTW- He followed that by hitting a game winning HR in the 8th inning yesterday, After a hot April, he cooled considerably in May. Maybe he’s starting to heat up again, huh?

    Ozzie Albies didn’t necessarily look like the sizzling up-and-comer that he’s billed to be, but that doesn’t mean he isn’t. That was only game. He made an error in the 1st inning that turned into an unearned run, but in fairness the ball took a tough hop on him. If not for the fact it hit him flush above the glove on the wrist it probably would have been scored a hit. He spent the rest of that half inning shaking his wrist, too. Kinda worried me at first. He is small… really small. I’m betting he’s the one that moves to 2B. In fact, after seeing him in person twice now I’m fairly convinced of it. I hope the Braves move Dansby on up soon and let these guys work together in AAA for a couple of months.

    Newcomer C Anthony Recker is a physical specimen. And I saw him hit the ball on the screws every time. Looked good behind the plate, too. Not sure what tarnished his prospect status and has caused him to become a journeyman minor league veteran, but for one game he looked pretty good. As with Ozzie, it was only one game. But the guy looks like a ballplayer to me.

    Emilio Bonifacio is still fast. Really fast. Had a nice opposite field hit to drive in the tying runs late in the game, too.

    The lack of power prospects is glaring at Gwinnett. Rio is the only real power threat they seem to have. They really need a big stick out in RF or LF in a bad way. That team is not a bad team, but they need more power to make them a complete team.

    And finally, top WAS prospect SS Trea Turner was a man among boys. he’s special and it shows. He’s got “it”.

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  510. 517 Gil in Mechanicsville May 31, 2016 at 9:26 am

    Thanks for taking the time to give us an honest and unbiased report on the farm hands. “only one game”

    An important distinction often often overlooked by many so called scouts. A player has a bad day or a good one and happens to be seen or not by the muckety mucks who make the decisions on who to sign and whom to not.

    One has to believe that was the case when the Braves traded for Olivera.

    Trea Turner… being subjected to the propaganda associated with being within the Washington Nationals’ Greater Co-Prosperity Sphere, I have heard quite a bit about him and how high the gNats were on him. I think his rise had something to do with Washington not re-signing Ian Desmond.

    One reason I like minor league ball is it gives you a chance to see some guys a little more clearly. What I don’t like is the idea that the major league team actually gives a ripe about the fans who root for the local team. Of course, if they were honest and said “Come out and watch our players practice while paying big league prices for beer and hot dogs not many folks would show up.

    I think one of the toughest jobs in baseball would have to be a minor league general manager.

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  511. 518 Gil in Mechanicsville May 31, 2016 at 9:39 am

    “He is small… really small.”
    I think a lot of publishist, agents, etc fudge the numbers on players trying to sell a product. After all, who are you going to believe” What were are told or your own lying eyes? 🙂

    One thing about him being small is it would make it easier for me to believe he actually is only 19 years old. When Furcal was being touted as a wunderkind as a 19 year old shortstop, he sure looked more like he was 24. Latin players have a long history of not being who or what they say they are.

    Big difference in a kid being 19 with the same skill set as one who is 23. By 23 you are thinking they have peaked out. Anywho, I won’t be surprised to see Swanson blow by Albies in the shortstop sweepstakes. Dansby is bigger and older, just has not faced as much pro pitching as Ozzie.

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  512. 519 Vox O'Reason May 31, 2016 at 10:18 am

    A little catching up from the weekend…

    Anyone see Coppy’s sit-down with Ken Rosenthal? (It was really Rosey, too. Not his sources.)

    Highlights from the session:

    -> “The days of trading players like Teheran for prospects are over.”

    -> “We need to get better at the major league level.”

    -> “To trade Teheran, we would have to be “overwhelmed”, and only for a hitter of comparable quality and age in return.”

    I get the feeling that those statements were more than just mere posturing. I think he means it. They’ll keep Julio unless someone simply makes him an offer he can’t refuse.

    And if he’s serious about a major league bat, then you can count out the Red Sox and OF prospect Andrew Benintendi. He probably needs another year in the upper minor leagues. That said, I doubt BOS would let Benintendi go anyway.

    But who would be out there that fits Coppy’s description that could possibly be offered?

    Maybe the Cubs would do Julio/Markakis for Jorge Soler/Javier Baez?

    Jorge Soler has had a disappointing season, hitting only .207/.309/.371. But he has started showing signs of life again. Over his last 7 games, he’s slashed .263/.440/.632 w/ 2 HR’s, one of which was a monster 461′ shot to L/CF that left a dent in Wrigley’s brand new new video scoreboard. You want to add power to our anemic lineup? There is power.

    Javier Baez is a player without a position in Chicago. He isn’t going to start ahead of Kris Bryant at 3B, he isn’t going to start ahead of Addison Russell at SS, and he isn’t going to start ahead of Ben Zobrist at 2B. He can play a little LF, but that devalues him somewhat. He would easily be our everyday 3B for the foreseeable future. Rio Ruiz might make a decent placeholder for future 3B Austin Riley, but he probably won’t develop into the player Baez already is. Heck, let’s even kick Ruiz into the deal to make it happen. 😉

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  513. 520 Vox O'Reason May 31, 2016 at 10:27 am

    I am dreaming of this lineup to open 2017:

    1- Mallex Smith (L), CF
    2- Javier Baez (R), 3B
    3- Dansby Swanson (R), SS
    4- Freddie Freeman (L), 1B
    5- Jorge Soler (R), LF
    6- Ender Inciarte (L), RF
    7- catcher
    8- Ozzie Albies (S), 2B

    I don’t have an answer for C yet. C’mon man, I can’t do everything…

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  514. 521 Vox O'Reason May 31, 2016 at 10:32 am

    Oh yeah… and there’s this. Over the weekend, the Braves signed 35-year-old RHRP Dale Thayer to a minor league deal. He’s a journeyman righty that might have some value to the major league bullpen, especially if some of the current veterans get traded off in July.

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  515. 522 Vox O'Reason May 31, 2016 at 1:55 pm

    Couple of thoughts…

    The guys over at MLBTR have comprised a list of their top trade candidates, which they admit is highly subjective. While I won’t go into all the name mentioned, I will comment on the current Braves noted, as well as a couple others.

    Obviously Julio is in the Top 10, but he isn’t the highest listed current Brave. That distinction belongs to Arodys Vizcaino. Jeff Todd reminds us that “the Ken Giles deal serves as a reminder of both the value of controllable late-inning arms and their volatility.” Phillies lockdown closer Ken Giles was traded from Philly to Houston for former No. 1 overall pick P Mark Appel, RHP Vincent Velasquez (who has been dominant for the majority of his 10 starts and is currently 5-2 w/ 3.63 ERA), a lefty bullpen piece in Brett Oberholtzer, and a couple other pitching prospects. In other words, it was a haul. For the Astros, Ken Giles has struggled mightily and has been downgraded to set-up man. If the Braves could bring back some much needed power to their anemic lineup, I’d be OK trading Viz.

    Todd also lists as trade candidates Gordon Beckham and Ender Inciarte just outside his Top 10, but I can’t see either of them being traded unless it’s as a complimentary piece in a deal bringing back a quality major league power bat. For instance, Julio plus Ender (plus other pieces) for Ryan Braun. In that scenario, Milwaukee would have a replacement for their RF, and the Braves would acquire the best power bat currently on the market.

    Coppy is in the phase of acquiring offense now, not sending it away. Neither Inciarte nor Beckham will be traded in the same way KJ and Uribe were last year. Not this time.

    And since I brought up Braun, might as well let his name marinate out there a little. He’s 32 years old and has 4 years and $76MM left on his contract after this season. That’s a chunk o’ change. But he’s having a career year this year. The Hebrew Hammer has 9 HR’s and 30 RBI at the 1/4 point in the season. It doesn’t take Chinese math to stretch that out into roughly 36 HR’s and 120 RBI over 162 games. We could live with that, couldn’t we? He would certainly be a marquis name to help move into the new SunTrust Park next season.

    He’s had just enough injuries and such to help quell a Dansby-type haul, but would you give up Julio, Inciarte and a pitching prospect not named Lucas Sims, Sean Newcomb or Kolby Allard for 36 HR’s and 120 RBI? What if they wanted Sims or Newcomb (Allard is as close to untouchable in this system as they come)?

    Personally, I would not give Sims up for anything short of Carlos Correa or Manny Machado. And we know those guys are going nowhere.

    Anyway, I’m rambling now…

    Gotta find a power OF bat, a 3B and a C somewhere… preferably in that order. If I get better production from OF and 3B, I can live with TFlow for another year.

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  516. 523 Vox O'Reason May 31, 2016 at 2:01 pm

    OK… we’re a little past the 1/4 mark. I was looking at Braun’s games played (41), not the total games played for the Brewers (51). So to extrapolate his numbers for 2016, it’d come out to 29 HR’s and 96 RBI.

    I’ll still take it.

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  517. 524 Vox O'Reason May 31, 2016 at 4:18 pm

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  518. 525 Vox O'Reason May 31, 2016 at 4:33 pm

    If Mallex is our CF and leadoff hitter of the future, why is he paying LF and not leading off?

    Hmmm… maybe Inciarte has more trade value as a leadoff hitter and CF than not. Makes you think, doesn’t it?

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  519. 526 Vox O'Reason May 31, 2016 at 4:37 pm

    Just heard a whisper that the Blue Jays are making a move on Jason Grilli…

    Stay tuned…

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  520. 527 Vox O'Reason May 31, 2016 at 4:52 pm

    Reportedly, the Braves are sending Jason Grilli to the Jays for a “prospect”, but it has not yet received league approval. Nothing else yet…

    Stay tuned…

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  521. 528 Vox O'Reason May 31, 2016 at 4:58 pm

    Robert Murray, Baseball Essential:

    The Toronto Blue Jays have acquired right-handed pitcher Jason Grilli from the Atlanta Braves in exchange for Sean Ratcliffe, according to industry sources.

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  522. 529 Vox O'Reason May 31, 2016 at 4:59 pm

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  523. 530 Vox O'Reason May 31, 2016 at 5:07 pm

    Apparently only awaiting official league approval.

    Sean Ratcliffe is 21 years old and was drafted by the Blue Jays in the 18th round in 2013. After 2 seasons in Rookie ball, he had some fairly unremarkable numbers at single-A Vancouver last season. Thus far in 2016 he has no stats, leading me to believe he’s going back to Rookie League.

    In other words, he is a long shot project.

    Sounds to me like a straight salary dump.

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  524. 531 Vox O'Reason May 31, 2016 at 5:10 pm

    Jim Johnson is very close to returning, so I assume he’ll take the roster spot… when Grilli actually vacates it.

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  525. 532 Vox O'Reason May 31, 2016 at 5:13 pm

    MLBTR says … the Jays will pay Grilli the pro-rated portion of the league minimum for the remainder of the season, with the Braves taking on the rest of his remaining $2.37MM. That means that the Jays will be on the hook for about $344K plus the potential $250K buyout on Grilli’s deal, leaving Atlanta with a savings of about $2.27MM.

    Uh, that math doesn’t compute.

    Stay tuned…

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  526. 533 berigan2electricboogaloo May 31, 2016 at 5:15 pm

    Grilli has a ton of strikeouts, but 5.29 ERA and 13 walks in 17 innings…wow. and 39. Better trade before something else breaks…which brings me to…
    Julio Teheran…I’d trade, him and soon…Why? Well, he’s pitching great, he’s young, cheap…and…while he doesn’t seem to have a stressful motion, IF he had his elbow blow out…that means he would likely be gone til 2018. This team isn’t close to going anywhere with this offense, and no one seems to want to trade hitters for pitchers in the minors…

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  527. 534 Vox O'Reason May 31, 2016 at 5:17 pm

    My initial take…

    As much as I love Grilli the person, he’s done. That cheese is cooked.

    So the Braves are sending a has-been for a never-will-be and saving a little $ in the process. The only question left is how much $. But at this point, I suppose whatever you can save is beneficial.

    Maybe the mighty Dale Thayer brings his big ol’ beard to ATL’s bullpen.

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  528. 535 berigan2electricboogaloo May 31, 2016 at 5:18 pm

    does not compute….does not compute….
    Sorta like everyone was talking about the big savings trading CJ for Swisher and Bourn, but having to pay their 2015 salary….but, thats water under the bridge or somethin’

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  529. 536 Vox O'Reason May 31, 2016 at 5:22 pm

    OK… now that I think about it, if the league is taking this much time to approve this deal, there must be some draft money or slots or something involved.

    And that would make alot more sense than the Braves just trying to stock up their Rookie League team.

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  530. 537 Gil in Mechanicsville May 31, 2016 at 6:34 pm

    Grille has been pitching better of late, got to remember, players with a history of Achilles injuries don’t normally recover in 9 months. He will continue to improve.

    And yes, their has to be something else in the deal because if the Braves simply “cut the cheese” and another team signed him. they would still be responsible for the same amount of money. There has to be another element and cap money makes sense.

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  531. 538 Gil in Mechanicsville May 31, 2016 at 9:14 pm

    I watched Chacin pitch a gem last night. complete game one hitter for the Angels.

    Wisler had another good game tonight. you cannot win if your offense does not score.

    Giants are a good team and as such, the breaks are going their way. It is the will of the baseball gods.

    One has to wonder, do struggling pitchers really get better when the face Atlanta because they are pitching better or because the Braves hitters are over matched by most everyone?

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  532. 539 Vox O'Reason June 1, 2016 at 7:46 am

    #1, no other elements to the Grilli deal.

    My take, it doesn’t save the team alot of $, but it does save some. Every bit counts. It looks as though they are going all in with youth and they found a good landing spot for Grilli. Bowman even hinted that the team may have simply released Grilli in the coming days had they not found an agreeable deal, although he didn’t expound on that thought.

    Truth is, they did Grilli a favor.

    Coppy mentioned as much in his impromptu presser. They get back a 21-year-old arm, and Grilli gets to pitch for a team that will seriously contend and has a realistic shot at a championship.

    My early comments called the Ratcliffe kid a “never-will-be” because he’s not made it above low-A ball in 3 years of pitching professionally. That was a bit unfair. He is only 21 years old. At worse, more numbers to enhance the percentage of hitting on a gem, I suppose.

    As for those that remain, the callup of Ryan Weber will be a temporary one. Jim Johnson will probably be activated today or tomorrow. And the team had been operating with an extra arm already, so I expect another pitcher will be traded or DFA’d in the next day or so and a position player will come up before the team heads west after Thursday’s 12:10pm game.

    If I were EOF, I’d be nervous.with my 6.32 ERA.

    As for the other vets, I expect to see them begin to be parted out like a car that no longer runs. A fender here, a compressor there…

    Expect to see Kelly Johnson traded by the Braves once again. I wonder what the record is for 1 team trading the same player? I think they’d gladly trade Markakis if he’d show some trade value. I also think AJP could get the Grilli treatment… hopefully to a team contending. Houston, do you have a catching problem?

    No mention of Aybar is necessary. He could go straight from DL to DFA. Beckham will likely be the SS until the Dynamic Duo arrives, and that is just fine with me.

    But back to more pressing matters. As I mentioned earlier, the Braves need to add a position player to the roster. Who will it be? Another IF? Another OF? I don’t think it will be Bonifacio or Brignac or Tuiasosopo.

    I think yesterday’s trade of Grilli was the first shoe to drop. Watch for additional movement. I am on the edge of my seat.

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  533. 540 Vox O'Reason June 1, 2016 at 7:55 am

    #2, yes, Peavy has struggled this season. But to be fair, he had already broken out of his funk in his last start against ARI when he went into the 7th inning allowing only 6 hits and 1 run. So Atlanta was certainly kind to him, but not the lone balm.

    That said, it’s hard to win if you manage only 1 hit. And this team is too inconsistent to get on any positive track. They just don’t have the offensive talent… period.

    As I said earlier, there isn’t anyone to bring up to make a difference. I think Coppy is getting ready to shake things up. If you’re simply gonna lose, might as well gain some big time game experience while you’re at it.

    Bring on the next wave. The mysterious and ambiguous Super 2 cutoff date should be somewhere after about the first week of June. Go ahead and bring up Rio. Lets move forward in youth if not in wins. Promote Dansby to AAA and let those guys get some work together.

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  534. 541 Vox O'Reason June 1, 2016 at 8:05 am

    The kid knows he deserved a better fate, but hasn’t whined about it. He has big time maturity to go with big time talent. Not saying he’s a future HOF or anything, but he so reminds me of a young Tom Glavine, just from the right side. He’s a gem and a keeper. He’s also an anchor even if not a true “ace”.

    Yep, this decade’s Wisler/Folty could be our version of Glavine/Smoltz… many similarities in character and style. Let’s hope for the same in wins.

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  535. 542 Vox O'Reason June 1, 2016 at 8:12 am

    Fairly random thought…

    Now would be a prime opportunity for Jace Peterson to get called back, except he hasn’t done much to earn it slashing .192/.298/.274 in 19 games there. Dang! That’s really bad, y’all. He was sent down to get himself on track. He’s not even a proverbial AAAA player at the moment. If he isn’t careful, he’ll find himself in bustling Pearl, Mississippi. Maybe when a certain high profile IF prospect leaves the “The Magnolia State” for suburban Gwinnett County, GA.

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  536. 543 Gil in Mechanicsville June 1, 2016 at 8:56 am

    I am a little surprised they let Grille go but I guess the Braves front office knows what they are doing. Grille was such a good mentor for a lot of the youngins in the pen, he will be missed.

    The Braves are like the family who is being foreclosed upon, the neighbors are just waiting around to pick up the scraps and the things said family cannot pack in the car.

    Braves will move Jim Johnson if he shows he can get ground balls. Those being turned into outs are dependent on defense.

    Yes, the Braves can put Aybar on the DL and he has to stay put for 15 days, nothing says they have to reactivate him. Some team will pay him the pro rated cost to finish the season.

    MLB minimum is lunch money to these execs.

    Reminds me, are the Mets still paying Bobby Bo a cool $1MM per year?

    I thought last night’s game was a good one, the Braves futility at the plate not withstanding. Wisler pitched a heck of a game. he just got tired in the eight but he had only thrown around 80 pitches but it was a hot muggy night in ATL. Denard Span certainly had him pegged didn’t he?

    VOX, you raise the question about why Mallex is playing centerfield the other day. Snit said Ender is more experienced and plays a better CF at this point. Smith is serving his apprenticeship. Markakis clearly does not have a strong arm any longer. Better suited to play left field. That said, Mallex does not look to be any better in the catch and throw department.

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  537. 544 Gil in Mechanicsville June 1, 2016 at 9:04 am

    The Braves miss the strong arm of Andrelton as the cut-off man but the Braves outfielders have been missing the cut-off man so often this spring, it likely makes little difference.

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  538. 545 berigan2electricboogaloo June 1, 2016 at 9:58 am

    V, it is one of the great mysteries of baseball, isn’t it, that some guys can kill at AAA against pretty decent arms, but can’t hit a lick in the majors, and still others don’t do much in the minors but hit (or pitch) better in the big leagues…

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  539. 546 berigan2electricboogaloo June 1, 2016 at 10:13 am

    Check this out , last year, Gordon Beckham , in 211 AB’s hit .209. .275 OBP. 8 doubles, 19 walks, 20 RBI’s
    This year, 91 AB’s, .293 BA, .393 OBP, 8 doubles, 12 walks, and 15 RBI’s.
    Seems like he and Frenchy have been Seitzerised….must be a bit depressing to Seitzer after having such great raw, untapped talent in Toronto, to have to work with such moldy, dried out clay here….
    AJ .206, 243 OBP mainly facing righties.
    KJ .218 .279 OBP 10 RBI’s in 101 AB’s
    Castro, .194 .224 OBP 4 RBI’s in over 100 AB’s
    Aybar .182 .225 OBP —-After the chicken bone incident, and the ball that hit him so squarely on the ankle, I now feel officially bad for him. I think the same weird thing happened to him that happened to Uggla, Jonny Gomes, Swisher, Bourn, they got old, and quickly…

    Got a bit off track there (Shocking, I know, I so rarely do that) but who would anyone trade for of the names mentioned above (that are still here playing of course)
    Beckham, and Frenchy…and with all the young kids coming up, why would you trade them away when they need folks to mentor to them? for another A ball pitcher ????

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  540. 547 berigan2electricboogaloo June 1, 2016 at 10:20 am

    I mean, why would you trade them away when the team needs them to mentor to the young kids hopefully coming up soon….

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  541. 548 Vox O'Reason June 1, 2016 at 10:27 am

    Bowman’s full story on the Grilli trade, including club motive and new prospect info:

    http://m.braves.mlb.com/news/article/181272918/jason-grilli-traded-from-braves-to-blue-jays

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  542. 549 Vox O'Reason June 1, 2016 at 10:33 am

    Beckham, and Frenchy…and with all the young kids coming up, why would you trade them away when they need folks to mentor to them?

    I wouldn’t, that’s I why I didn’t mention them. But I would trade KJ… again. And I’d dump Aybar in some form or fashion. Adonis doesn’t impress me either. At the moment, they are all we have. But when they deem it time for the youngsters to come on up, those would be my first to go.

    And so that I’m clear, I would keep both Beckham and Frenchy around, and both past this year.

    As I mentioned, we have to add a position player soon because we’re out of balance with 13 pitchers and 4 hitters off the bench. I hope they add Rio and let him play.

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  543. 550 Vox O'Reason June 1, 2016 at 10:42 am

    I actually get the Grilli trade, and don’t have a problem with it. And when they trade Jim Johnson again later this month, I’ll be OK with that also.

    I don’t have an issue with trading any pitcher over the age of 30. Wanna keep a guy around to mentor younger pitchers? Fine… keep Norris as the long man, and get rid of EOF and Ogando, One of those guys (EOF?) will probably be jettisoned this week anyway to make room for the missing position player. Neither has made themselves indispensable. EOF pitches with a deer in the headlights look about him. Stick a fork in him. Plus you have Cervenka and Krol as LHRP’s. EOF is beyond expendable, he’s a liability.

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  544. 551 Gil in Mechanicsville June 1, 2016 at 10:46 am

    I think the biggest disappointments in the offense department have to be Freddie Freeman and Eric Aybar. Hey, players go through it and with the shift thing going on, it is even tougher but with that upper cut swing of his, Freeman looks more like Matt Diaz everyday. Unless you are swinging at a curveball on the way down, you are not on the same plane as the baseball very long.

    I don’t remember that upper cut being so pronounced as it is this season but it’s like he is trying to hit everything over the heads f the outfielders. Until he make the adjustments needed to show he can hit to all fields, he is going to continue to flail away haplessly.

    Markakis still does not have his power back. He could hit more homers in Baltimore because it is a small ballpark, the NL has bigger parks as a rule so he is suffering from Marcus Giles syndrome. Lots of warning track flyballs after they cracked down on the PED use. Not saying Markakis juiced, just it is tougher to recover muscle mass without it and it takes very little time for muscle to breakdown from atrophy. It takes years to build it up without help from steroids. No matter how hard you work out.

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  545. 552 Vox O'Reason June 1, 2016 at 10:52 am

    VOX, you raise the question about why Mallex is playing centerfield the other day. Snit said Ender is more experienced and plays a better CF at this point.

    Sounds good, but I don’t buy it. Any OF has more trade value as a CF or RF. Thus, Ender will remain in CF and Markakis in RF. Between now and August 1 (this year’s non-waiver trade deadline), everything this team does is with an eye toward The Plan. That includes where guys play in the field and where they bat in the order.

    NOTE: I wouldn’t seek to trade Ender straight up, but if the Braves are going to trade for a bonafide major league power bat, as Coppy told the world, they’re gonna have to part with quality to get quality. And if a team is going to trade you their OF, they’re gonna need a replacement. Julio + Ender is the best option to make that happen. Julio + Ender + pitching prospect might net you Jorge Soler and Javier Baez. Just sayin’…

    For the record, I’m don’t mean to come across as snarky about it. I’d do the same thing. The team’s only positive direction in 2016 is toward the future. I would do everything in my power to maximize that effort.

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  546. 553 Vox O'Reason June 1, 2016 at 11:17 am

    Not hard to figure out what has to improve. And if you don’t think that just 1 power bat can transform an offense, look at NYM in 2015. We all said how dominant their pitching was, but called their offense non-existent. Then they traded for Yoenis Cespedes in July and everything else clicked.

    Would 1 bat make that dramatic a difference here in 2016? Uh, not enough to propel us into the playoffs. But enough to at least make us competitive nightly. One good power bat behind Freddie in the lineup would change everything. Just look at all the runners we continue to leave on base. One good power bad could clear alot of those.

    And when your starting pitchers are giving you a chance nightly, a couple more runs here and there could help you win a fair share of those games.

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  547. 554 Vox O'Reason June 1, 2016 at 11:42 am

    Tell me which lineup looks better to you:

    1- Inciarte, CF
    2- Beckham, SS
    3- Freeman, 1B
    4- Markakis, RF
    5- KJ/d’Arnaud, 2B
    6- AJP/TFlow, C
    7- Garcia, 3B
    9- Mallex, LF

    or

    1- Mallex, CF
    2- Beckham, SS
    3- Freeman, 1B
    4- Jorge Soler, LF
    5- Markakis, RF
    6- KJ/d’Arnaud, 2B
    7- AJP/TFlow, C
    8- Garcia, 3B

    Just 1 new bat changes that whole lineup.

    And in fairness, the rotation obviously goes from

    Julio
    Folty
    Wisler
    WillyP
    Blair

    to possibly

    Folty
    Wisler
    WillyP
    Blair
    Manny Banuelos or Tyrell Jenkins

    For me, I’ll take the tradeoff.

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  548. 555 Vox O'Reason June 1, 2016 at 11:46 am

    How about:

    1- Mallex, CF
    2- Beckham, SS
    3- Freeman, 1B
    4- Jorge Soler, LF
    5- Markakis, RF
    6- KJ/d’Arnaud, 2B
    7- AJP/TFlow, C
    8- Rio Ruiz, 3B

    😀