#182: So What Is The Winning Formula?

Vox O’Reason

Sitting here in God’s country in the foothills of the beautiful North Georgia mountains, it’s awful easy to speculate as to whom I want to see the Braves sign or trade for. After all, I’m spending someone else’s money and prospect capital, right? Who doesn’t want a job where they get to have all the fun with no accountability?

As this year’s Hot Stove season winds down to a just couple of weeks remaining, I can look back at all the players I’ve wished for. From Madison Bumgarner to JT Realmuto to Corey Kluber to Andrew McCutchen to Ryan Haniger to David Peralta to Sonny Gray to Bryce and Manny, etc., there really are a lot of players at a lot of positions. It would look like the Braves had a lot of needs to fill, even though it was really just a brief list…

Needs: catcher, outfielder
Wants: starting pitcher, reliever, bench

Nick Markakis

Brian McCann

In reality, our new buddy Alex Anthopolous has addressed our needs, to arguable degrees. He brought home our old friend Brian McCann. And while I cannot think of a better teacher and mentor for our young pitchers, I also cannot with full sincerity say he and Tyler Flowers together can handle 162 games behind the plate. I just can’t. AA also brought back Nick Markakis, an integral piece of last year’s success story, but not a sexy or well received signing. In fact, it was divisive at best. But the fact remains, he addressed the “needs”. Fancred’s Jon Heyman even said, “After signing Markakis, Braves have very solid team and no obvious flaws.”

That’s the equivalent of being told your blind date is really smart and has a great personality.

But let’s get real here. The goal of every GM should be to put together a team that can contend for and win a World Series. Yes, I know we’ve just emerged from a rebuild where there were a few seasons that we were simply not going to contend.

I still feel the residual sting from those years. But a GM still *wants* the team to succeed. And when a team is in position to contend, that GM wants to put together the winning formula to make it happen.

Ah… and that’s the rub isn’t it? Exactly what is the winning formula? Obviously, if I knew that I wouldn’t be sitting in my office, I’d be in a executive office somewhere. But here’s what I can do. I can look back at several World Series winners and see what they have in common. What is it that binds them all together?

Looking back at the last 10 World Series winners, I found the following…

2018 Red Sox: Starting pitchers Chris Sale and David Price, relievers Craig Kimbrel and Joe Kelly.

2017 Astros: Starters Dallas Keuchel and Lance McCullers, Jr., who got injured and was replaced by Justin Verlander, relievers Ken Giles and Chris Devenski.

2016 Cubs: Starters Jon Lester and Jake Arrieta, relievers Hector Rondon and Aroldis Chapman.

2015 Royals: Starters Danny Duffy and Edison Volquez, relievers Wade Davis and Kelvin Herrera.

2014 Giants: Starters Madison Bumgarner and Tim Lincecum, relievers Sergio Romo and Jeremy Affeldt.

2013 Red Sox: Starters Jon Lester and John Lackey, relievers Koji Uehera and Andrew Miller.

2012 Giants: Starters Madison Bumgarner and Tim Lincecum, relievers Santiago Casilla and Sergio Romo.

2011 Cardinals: Starters Chris Carpenter and Jaime Garcia, relievers Fernando Salas and Jason Motte.

2010 Giants: Starters Tim Lincecum and Madison Bumgarner, relievers Brian Wilson and Sergio Romo.

2009 Yankees: CC Sabathia and AJ Burnett, relievers Mariano Rivera and Phil Hughes.

Are we seeing the pattern here?

Obviously all of those teams had potent hitters in their lineups. And so do the Braves. I don’t need to regurgitate our lineup here. But if we want to put a winning team on the field, one that can not only dance during the regular season, but succeed in October especially, we better have a solid 1-2 punch at the top of the rotation and we better have some shut down capability at the back end of the bullpen. Period. Those qualities are simply not negotiable.

Close your eyes and remember Greg Maddux, Tom Glavine, John Smoltz, Mark Wohlers, Rafael Soriano, etc. Fits the pattern, doesn’t it?

So I say all that to say this, on January 28 as the Braves appear to still be chasing Miami’s catcher. Abandon the hunt. Pull back the dogs and turn that attention toward Cleveland and go get Corey Kluber. The same prospect package that would bring back the All-Star catcher will certainly bring back the All-Star pitcher. Get him. And then go sign Craig Kimbrel. The prospect capital is there and the money is there; just go spend it.

 

 

Then maybe next year I can add to the above list “2019 Braves: Corey Kluber and Mike Foltynewicz, relievers Craig Kimbrel and AJ Minter.”

 

 

 

 

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274 Responses to “#182: So What Is The Winning Formula?”


  1. 1 Carolina Lady January 29, 2019 at 4:04 pm

    Excellent, VOR! Many thanks. We appreciate it!

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  2. 2 Gil in Mechanicsville January 29, 2019 at 5:17 pm

    Great piece Kenny. Had to laugh at the blind date reference… Yeah, but just wait until you see that car….

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  3. 3 Gil in Mechanicsville January 29, 2019 at 5:21 pm

    Yes, it still comes down to great pitching…

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  4. 4 berigan2electricboogaloo January 29, 2019 at 6:36 pm

    Very good points V! Gotta have that tough 1-2 punch, seems in the playoffs, right now…you can then piece together the other games out of starters and relievers…right now at least.
    I do wonder about the offense though. Dansby, IF he is healthy and reaches full potential, that’s a good thing, but, other that the bringer of rain, the offense looks the same. and he’s that age everyone seems to think all players fall off at….
    we were shut out twice in the playoffs…doesn’t matter who is pitching then.

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  5. 6 berigan2electricboogaloo January 29, 2019 at 7:54 pm

    from the previous blog..
    I am less adverse to Dallas Keuchel than I was before (though still not sure a soft tosser can be THE guy in the playoffs) and we sure could use a 200 inning guy, but…it occurred to me, that in the DH league, not only can you leave a guy in longer because you don’t have to PH for him, you also will take Keuchel out in the 6th, in a 2-2 game if say there are runners in 2nd and 3rd. A guy that will likely hit .084 next year, will be pinch hit for a fair bit…

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  6. 7 Gordon Lawrence January 29, 2019 at 11:15 pm

    Will report day ever get here?

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  7. 8 Carolina Lady January 30, 2019 at 1:03 am

    Hey, guys, a dear friend of mine, Bo Southern, with whom I worked for many years, will probably stop in. Good guy who will fit in with us.

    Bo, come on in. The water is great!

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  8. 9 Vox O'Reasoñ January 30, 2019 at 10:34 am

    Heyman says he’s getting $3.5M + incentives. That’s a nice signing for a good bounceback candidate. If he’s healthy, he’ll help their pen.

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  9. 10 Vox O'Reasoñ January 30, 2019 at 10:55 am

    DOB has a new story in The Athletic about Dansby and his wrist injury/recovery. Gil can certainly fill in the details (I don’t have a subscription), but essentially we learn that Dansby began to feel the discomfort in the ridiculous 30-degree baseball game they played in Wrigley last April. His first DL stint with it was in May, and he played with it most of the season through September when he just couldn’t do it anymore. It necessitated surgery where they removed debris and a “loose body” that had been worming around in there and causing the majority of the pain and weakness. That essentially prevented him from getting a comfortable grip on the bat, much less use his hands while swinging. That’s kind of necessary for a hitter.

    I hate that Dansby has become the favorite whipping boy for so many around Braves Country. After all, he didn’t ask for team execs to plaster his face on billboards and try to force him into being the new face of the team as a rookie. But he is a pro, and he gets paid to deal with it. I think he’s dealt with it quite well.

    But back to Dansby the 2019 player. So many want the team to get rid of him and play Johan at SS, but they disregard his value to this team. He never lost a step on defense last season, ranking #6 in all of baseball in Fangraphs defensive ratings, ahead of many heralded glovemen including Trea Turner of the rival Nats, Jean Segura, now of the rival Phillies, and Amed Rosario of the rival Mets. Also ahead of super-stars Carlos Correa and Manny Machado. His detractors also seem to gloss over the fact that he was batting .357 prior to the game in Chicago when he got hurt.

    3 things I will specifically root for in 2019:

    #1… a Braves win every night
    #2… Bringer Of Rain to provide many moments of WOW
    #3… Dansby to put together a solid season at the plate and shut up the haters

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    • 11 Gil in Mechanicsville January 30, 2019 at 12:55 pm

      I will go back and re-read the article and share the highlights but the essence was he played hurt until he couldn’t… hand and wrist injuries are tough to overcome so I look for his bounce back this season.

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  10. 12 Gil in Mechanicsville January 30, 2019 at 12:56 pm

    something to keep in mind. Fantasy baseball owners do not give a whit about defense. They would play David Orestes at every position.

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  11. 13 Vox O'Reasoñ January 30, 2019 at 1:25 pm

    https://www.mlb.com/news/top-prospects-as-mlb-lineups-for-2019/c-303282242?tid=151437456

    Fun article showing the Top 4 All-Prospect teams. Hint: the Braves check in at #3, but that rotation… man oh man that rotation…

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  12. 14 Gil in Mechanicsville January 30, 2019 at 1:59 pm

    Yes, when you don’t have room for a couple of top flight hurlers, you are deep. One has to wonder if any of the international players the Braves had to give up is the real reason for lack of depth in position players.

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  13. 15 Gil in Mechanicsville January 30, 2019 at 2:03 pm

    Funny thing about baseball, one player seldom makes a difference every night but making a difference 10 games a season is a huge thing. You don’t always have to be great but sucking a lot less is important…

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  14. 16 berigan2electricboogaloo January 30, 2019 at 2:33 pm

    “Yes, when you don’t have room for a couple of top flight hurlers, you are deep. One has to wonder if any of the international players the Braves had to give up is the real reason for lack of depth in position players.”

    well, coppy only trading for and drafting pitchers , that played a role too 😛

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  15. 19 Bo Southern January 31, 2019 at 7:28 am

    Thanks for having me. Special thanks to “Carolina Lady” I live in Salem Va, Season Ticket to Salem Red Sox…Carolina League High “A”. Braves Team is Lynchburg Va. Baseball at any level is great. Again thsnks Carolina Lady.

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    • 20 Vox O'Reasoñ January 31, 2019 at 7:56 am

      Welcome Bo!! Baseball at any level is indeed great. I take in a great abundance of high school baseball around here. In fact, there are exhibition games in less than 2 weeks. I don’t miss many home games, and not many road games that are within a reasonable distance. Can’t wait!!

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    • 21 Gil in Mechanicsville January 31, 2019 at 8:08 am

      Welcome to our humble but sage group Bo… I suspect Bo knows baseball… 🙂

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    • 22 Carolina Lady January 31, 2019 at 2:30 pm

      So happy for you to be here, my friend! Hope you enjoy the chatter as much as we do. Braves, baseball – and stuff. All opinions are freely expressed without drawing fire. I think your thoughts on things are pretty much what we here think and believe.

      WELCOME!!!!!

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  16. 23 Vox O'Reasoñ January 31, 2019 at 12:35 pm

    Joe Frisaro, MLB.com: The J.T. Realmuto sweepstakes appear to be entering the final stages. A source told MLB.com on Thursday that trade talks for the Marlins’ All-Star catcher are in “advanced stages,” with four clubs still in the mix: the Padres, Reds, Dodgers and Braves.

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  17. 25 Vox O'Reasoñ January 31, 2019 at 12:43 pm

    Rosey reports today that “Padres officials meeting today or tomorrow with Bryce Harper in Las Vegas, sources tell The Athletic. Meeting expected to include ownership representatives.”

    It would tickle me to no end for Bryce to end up on the west coast and for Manny to end up in Chicago’s south side… and for Dallas and/or Craig to end up here with the other going outside the NL East. Then Philly would be left holding their “stupid money”.

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  18. 26 Vox O'Reasoñ January 31, 2019 at 1:51 pm

    You all know I prefer a pitcher anyway, but in the context of the report above…

    As of Wednesday, the reports were that the Fish had moved away from asking for a ML player and was mostly focusing on 3 Top 100 prospects. The loose framework mentioned was Austin Riley + pitcher (I refuse to even mention Ian Anderson’s name in this context) + Cristian Pache. IMO, that’s a huge overpay. Just say NO. In reality, I’d prefer to keep Riley and send them Ender, as has been rumored previously. Ender + Kyle Wright + Pache I can live with. I want Riley to thrive in Atlanta.

    Here’s what I see in Austin Riley: He’s a guy with a cannon arm (was scouted as a pitcher by some teams), a guy who worked hard to become a good fielder at 3B, a good runner, and an overall good athlete to go along with the much publicized classic RH power bat. He reminds me alot of… Pat Burrell. Burrell was a 3B in HS, and was a 3B exclusively while starring at U of Miami. When the Phillies drafted him, they had a young stud named Scott Rolen entrenched at 3B, so they converted Burrell to a LF to make a path for his impressive bat. Burrell never played 3B in a pro game and turned out to be a perennial stud in LF.

    I firmly believe that if the Braves give Riley a legitimate chance to play LF, he could take that role and thrive. It’s my understanding he’ll get plenty of innings in the OF this spring. I hope this happens in Lake Buena Vista with the Braves and not in Jupiter with the Fish. Perhaps he opens the season as an everyday LF in Gwinnett, then joins the team as a 4th OF in mid-year. His RH power bat would compliment Ender and even Nick on occasion and prevent September fatigue from derailing any player’s season.

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  19. 27 Vox O'Reasoñ January 31, 2019 at 2:07 pm

    DO’B opined this earlier this week: “It’s not my $, but here’s how to turn Braves into strong NL pennant contender and maintain mid-level payroll: trade Inciarte [plus prospects obviously] for Kluber plus $3-5M coming from CLE; trade Teheran and most or all of his $11M sal; sign Harper 7 yrs backloaded, rising steadily from $25M to $35M”

    Allow me to alter his suggestion slightly…

    Keep the first part, and sign Harper 7 yrs backloaded, rising steadily from $25M to $35MM sign Kimbrel 4 yrs / $20M AAV.

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  20. 29 Gil in Mechanicsville January 31, 2019 at 2:34 pm

    Agree, while I would not throw away a Bryce Harper, I could live without his bat in the line up. As long as we do not have Julio pitching to him, the Braves have a chance.

    Methinks it will be two pitchers and a position player that gets Realmuto if the Braves make the trade. They just do not have all that many top one hundred position prospects but are loaded with arms. Anyone who has ever traded baseball cards knows you don’t trade away your rarest cards if you can help it. I would have to be for a signed rookie card of a HOF guy to get that kind of a deal….

    If Realmuto would sign an extension then it make it more palatable but otherwise, I would just as soon take Kimbrel for 4 years like you say Vee.

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  21. 30 Vox O'Reasoñ January 31, 2019 at 3:13 pm

    Julio?

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  22. 33 Vox O'Reasoñ January 31, 2019 at 4:07 pm

    I still advocate acquiring pitching over position at this point, but there is an interesting trait of this lineup that I can’t help but notice:

    Lineup as it currently stands:
    CF, Ender (2017 All-Star)
    3B, JD (2016 All-Star)
    1B, Freddie (2018 All-Star)
    LF, RAJ (2018 ROY)
    RF, Nick (2018 All-Star)
    2B, Ozzie (2018 All-Star)
    C, McFlowers
    SS, Dansby

    Including Dansby Swanson, whom is hopefully fully healthy for an entire season, this lineup is full of All-Star talent at every position except for 1…

    … catcher.

    So a reasonable deal for JTR will not hurt my feelings.

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  23. 34 Vox O'Reasoñ January 31, 2019 at 4:09 pm

    Steve Adams, MLBTR: The greatest cause for optimism regarding a terminus in this exhausting [JT Realmuto] saga could be the latest column from The Athletic’s Dennis Lin (subscription required), wherein he writes that there are “signs that [the asking price] has come down in recent days.”

    So instead of the moon and the stars, just the moon.

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  24. 36 Vox O'Reasoñ January 31, 2019 at 9:19 pm

    Ain’t that interesting?

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  25. 38 Gil in Mechanicsville February 1, 2019 at 8:32 am

    Yes, perhaps we should all push a “Bring Kimbrel Home” campaign… Think it would actually move anyone?

    Here is a question? How many “blown saves” did the Braves have last season? That is, games that were grasp from the jaws of victory?

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  26. 39 Vox O'Reasoñ February 1, 2019 at 9:46 am

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    • 41 Vox O'Reasoñ February 1, 2019 at 12:35 pm

      So by that stat reference, the Braves were just 17th in blown saves. Not as bad as we perceived. But we were also just 16th in saves. That’s even more interesting as it illustrates the fact that the lead is just as important in the 7th and 8th innings as the 9th.

      Minter/Viz/Kimbrel could lock down those late innings.

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  27. 42 Gil in Mechanicsville February 1, 2019 at 1:02 pm

    So, the Braves had the same number of blow saves as Boston… hummmm… I guess it is perception over reality or maybe their are many other underlying factors like having to use your bullpen for fewer innings or being in more games late.

    Still, I would rather have Kimbrel coming out of the pen late than anyone else.

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  28. 43 Gil in Mechanicsville February 1, 2019 at 2:45 pm

    Sigh… A surprise snow shower… Oh joy… I hate it when my wheel chair ramp turns into a ski jump…

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  29. 47 Gil in Mechanicsville February 1, 2019 at 5:52 pm

    So, another week into the off season and still no obvious movement on Realmuto or the top free agents.

    I can honestly say I don’t blame teams for not wanting to spend $30- $35 million dollars a year on one player. I also can deal with not trading away the future for two years on a great player. We saw what happened with Texiera. Big nothing burger and still needed pitching.

    I think about this way, how many games would the Braves have won last season if they had not been so deep in quality arms?

    The Nats, Phillies and Mets have all made some big strides in the off season but the Braves are going to be stout just because of who they have returning. Soroka and Darren O’Day should really help. So who knows, maybe something happens during the Super Bowl.

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  30. 48 berigan2electricboogaloo February 2, 2019 at 11:35 am

    V, So by that stat reference, the Braves were just 17th in blown saves. Not as bad as we perceived. But we were also just 16th in saves. That’s even more interesting as it illustrates the fact that the lead is just as important in the 7th and 8th innings as the 9th.

    and

    Gil So, the Braves had the same number of blow saves as Boston… hummmm… I guess it is perception over reality or maybe their are many other underlying factors like having to use your bullpen for fewer innings or being in more games late.

    Still, I would rather have Kimbrel coming out of the pen late than anyone else.

    all good points…
    but…I seem to recall a lot of games after Viz got hurt where some swell reliever with a low ERA would come in the in the 9th, give up 2,3 hits, and a run or two, but since it was 4-1, the braves still won, but it was 4-2, 4-3. or, 2 guys were needed to shut it down…just didn’t feel good. A.J. clearly got better….

    and this occurred to me as well, Red Sox won 18 more games than the braves (had to look it up) and of course, the more games you win, the more chances for someone to blow a game 😛

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  31. 49 Vox O'Reasoñ February 3, 2019 at 12:38 pm

    A.J. clearly got better…

    Alot of us didn’t realize, because the “new” Braves keep info so close to the vest, that AJ was dealing with a back injury during that rough stretch. He later described it as the injury affecting his mechanics, and that his late season rebound was the result of regaining the repeatability of those mechanics.

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  32. 50 Vox O'Reasoñ February 3, 2019 at 1:13 pm

    Notice the wording here… Riley or Anderson. If AA can keep Anderson, make Riley the centerpiece, add a pitcher such as Joey Wentz or Kyle Muller, and another throw in prospect like Travis Demeritte or Isranel Wilson, I think it would be a good deal for both sides. And if they’ll expand the deal to include a reliever like Steckenrider, we can give them Tyler Flowers to be their new primary catcher. Otherwise we can spin him off in a separate deal.

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  33. 51 Vox O'Reasoñ February 3, 2019 at 10:09 pm

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  34. 52 Vox O'Reasoñ February 4, 2019 at 10:50 am

    BRAVES SIGN… a minor league relief pitcher.

    Sorry, I’m just trying to be ready for something bigger.

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    • 53 Vox O'Reasoñ February 4, 2019 at 10:51 am

      MLBTR: The Braves have reportedly agreed to a minor league deal with veteran reliever Ben Rowen. Rowen, an extreme submariner, is the owner of a rare high-grounder, low-walk profile, and has turned in a number of impressive seasons at the AAA level. The 30-year-old’s last big-league appearance came in 2016 with Milwaukee, for whom he made three late-season appearances.

      Um… depth in the AAA bullpen? Can’t imagine any other reason.

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  35. 54 Gil in Mechanicsville February 4, 2019 at 11:08 am

    Morning all, I switched on the Super Bowl telecast with 8 minutes left to [lay in the game… Did I miss anything that happened prior to that? LOL…

    I was reminded of the old Joe Gibbs era Redskins when they would simply wear down the opposing teams with running plays for the first three quarters of the game and pour it on a worn out defense at the end of a game.

    So, other than basketball and hockey, baseball has the field to itself… (a little joke there)

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  36. 55 Gil in Mechanicsville February 4, 2019 at 11:12 am

    I would really rather not give up Riley but you cannot expect the Marlins to completely cede their only viable trade chip for nothing… They screwed up in their trade of Yelich but that was not the Braves fault. When you make a bad deal, it is tough trying to get it all back at one time.

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    • 56 Vox O'Reasoñ February 4, 2019 at 12:01 pm

      This may be way off base (yes, pun fully intended), but I think that Ian Anderson’s ceiling is more projectable than Austin Riley. I believe both will be successful ML’ers, but I would bet on Anderson before Riley. And I believe Anderson will be a perennial star. Will Riley? Maybe, but just maybe. I certainly can’t believe it with the same veracity as I do Anderson.

      Ian Anderson is the 2019 version of Adam Wainright. Barring some devastating injury, he will be our “ace” in 2021. And it appears the front office is behind him as well given their unwillingness to budge on him in trade demands.

      As good as our young pitching core is currently, it will be completely transformed by 2021 when it will begin with Anderson, Mike Soroka, Kyle Wright and Bryce Wilson. Whomever else remains can fight for the last spot.

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  37. 57 Vox O'Reasoñ February 4, 2019 at 12:24 pm

    Yep.

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  38. 58 Vox O'Reasoñ February 4, 2019 at 1:30 pm

    Everything is eerily quiet today. I mean, it’s creepy. Calm before the storm?

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  39. 59 Vox O'Reasoñ February 4, 2019 at 4:53 pm

    There as word that Harper was spotted in Atlanta over the weekend, but then again there was this little event involving another sport going on here. I understand it was a pretty big deal. The event, not… well, you know.

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  40. 60 Gil in Mechanicsville February 4, 2019 at 7:05 pm

    Hey Chris K… Happy birthday dude, I hope your wishes come true…

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  41. 62 Gordon Lawrence February 4, 2019 at 11:19 pm

    As the days creep slowly by, i think more and more that the price for J.T. REALMUTO is too steep, and we are more apt to spring some dough-re-mi on CRAIG KIMBREL. Giving the ‘pen some real backbone with RH’ers VIZCAINO and KIMBREL, and LH MINTER as the closers might be better than having REALMUTO blocking WILLIE CONTRERAS in 2021, or giving up a top three prospect for a two year rental with no assurance of any extension. Not a particularly appealing deal. I can see why AA hasn’t gone for that bait.

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  42. 63 Gordon Lawrence February 4, 2019 at 11:21 pm

    May 31, 1943 is my birthday if you want to post it up.

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  43. 65 Vox O'Reasoñ February 5, 2019 at 8:19 am

    Here we sit, just 10 days before P&CR, and even less than that for most MLB teams. But for the Braves specifically, my gut still tells me there is another major move to be made, and most likely within these last 10 days. This week? I’d like to think so. Surely whomever we have targeted would like to know where they’re going to be training and living for the next 6 weeks, especially if they’re bringing wife/kids with them.

    I feel like a bow string that is being stretched all the way back before being released. The impact is going to be big, but the current tension is killing me.

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  44. 66 Vox O'Reasoñ February 5, 2019 at 8:27 am

    What’s weird to me is that there is a sense that the Braves are still hanging in on the periphery of the Bryce Harber saga. There are suggestions that the sides might could connect on a backloaded deal with some player friendly options involved. And what makes this doubly interesting is that should something unthinkable along these lines actually happen, suddenly we have an extra OF to be dealt. Ender? To Miami? To Cleveland? TO San Francisco?

    I am sure this is all a product of some vivid imaginations that are starved for some juicy Braves bombshell.

    Still, it’s fun to dream…

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  45. 67 Gil in Mechanicsville February 5, 2019 at 8:47 am

    Good morning folks, Yes, the more I think about it, Kimbrel would be just about the best add Atlanta could make right now aside from an ACE. Agree on the two year deal Gordon.

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  46. 68 Vox O'Reasoñ February 5, 2019 at 11:09 am

    I saw some discussion this morning that suggested that MLB should look at placing a winter deadline, similar to the July 31, trade deadline, for teams to sign FA’s and make trades. The discussion was merely speculative and very general in scope. But is it worth the discussion?

    For instance, arbitration hearings started on Feb. 1 this year. Suppose there was a deadline set to make major league trades or FA signings before Feb. 1, setting a “Spring Training roster”. Minor league deals could still be done, but not with a ML camp invite to dissuade skirting the deadline. Once camp opens, teams would then be open to tinkering with their rosters again. In essence it’s only a 2 or 3 week moratorium, but it should at the very least prevent teams from using their Spring Training reporting date as a defacto deadline. It could possibly spur more activity earlier, at least in January when it was sooooo dead this year. And in reality, there is no deadline, regardless of reporting date. Who’s to say some of these players like Manny or Bryce don’t want to go through the grind of 6 weeks of Spring Training? What’s to keep them from purposely dragging their feet to gain a couple extra weeks of personal offseason? Then again, they could still do that even if there was an early February moratorium. I don’t know. Maybe there is no good answer.

    Too much regulation? Good for the players? Good for fans? Both? Useless blathering?

    I also think that any interruption in FA singing, even for just 2-3 weeks, would be met with strong opposition from the MLBPA as stifling player movement. So it’s probably a moot point anyway.

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  47. 69 Vox O'Reasoñ February 5, 2019 at 11:13 am

    I thought he’d make a great bench piece in ATL…

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  48. 70 Vox O'Reasoñ February 5, 2019 at 12:19 pm

    Interesting article on the use of the WAR stat by ML front offices.

    https://www.mlb.com/news/war-embraced-by-mlb-front-offices/c-303484670

    As you should know, I do not dismiss WAR, I just don’t embrace it as the only reference point for value. But I do think it can be useful for comparison purposes – as in comparing the overall value of Player A vs. Player B – as it is comprised of many different metrics. (It’s those singular metrics by themselves that I find offputting.) And even with the more comprehensive WAR stat, it doesn’t accurately measure a player’s full defensive worth… which is why I like it only as a complimentary part of evaluating a player. I guess my point is that I do think WAR does have some credibility.

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  49. 71 berigan2electricboogaloo February 5, 2019 at 1:31 pm

    As the days creep slowly by, i think more and more that the price for J.T. REALMUTO is too steep, and we are more apt to spring some dough-re-mi on CRAIG KIMBREL. Giving the ‘pen some real backbone with RH’ers VIZCAINO and KIMBREL, and LH MINTER as the closers might be better than having REALMUTO blocking WILLIE CONTRERAS in 2021, or giving up a top three prospect for a two year rental with no assurance of any extension. Not a particularly appealing deal. I can see why AA hasn’t gone for that bait.

    Gordon, I agree. We would possibly be considering trading him mid 2020 to get something better than a #1 pick….depending on how well the team was doing in 2020

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  50. 72 Vox O'Reasoñ February 6, 2019 at 8:07 am

    No roster news at all. Crickets.

    In other news, and Gil will have to expand on this as it is from Rosey’s latest offering in The Athletic, among the rule changes being considered are a 3 pitch minimum for relievers, expanding the active roster to 26, but limiting it to 28 in Sept., and implementing the DH in the NL… possibly as soon as this season.

    Because I cannot read his whole article, I cannot speak to any details that may change the actuality of what I just typed. But the comments I have seen made about it seem to bear out its appearance.

    But I will say this… if they are going to implement of these major changes – DH, 26 man roster – for 2019, that will send all 30 teams into an overtime frenzy. For NL teams, they will all have to add or find a DH. That can be accomplished by the extra roster spot, of course, but will still result in alot of NL teams all scrambling for a small handful of available candidates.

    In the Braves case, they can just sign Bryce Harper and sort out the details by April. 😀

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  51. 73 Vox O'Reasoñ February 6, 2019 at 8:23 am

    These may be unnecessary comments, as I still haven’t seen the actual rule change proposals, but I still want to address those named above thus:

    I like the 3 batter minimum for pitchers… which would obviously carry an exception for injury. I have never liked bringing in a pitcher for just one batter. I get it, but I don’t like it.

    Expanding the roster to 26? In this age of pitch limits, it has become almost necessary. Given that starters view 6 innings as a goal now, it’s not possible to function with a “short” bullpen of the traditional 7.

    Limiting to 28 in Sept.? Well, teams shot themselves in the foot last season bringing up so many 1-batter pitchers. It all came to a head, and will obviously be nipped in the bud with all of these noted actions.

    And the DH? I don’t like it and have never liked it. But I also don’t like the fact that one league has it and the other doesn’t. And there is no way in @#$% that the MLBPA will ever allow it to be taken away from the AL. Te imbalance was OK before inter-league play, and even added somewhat to the “mystique” of meeting the AL team in the World Series, but it is now a disadvantage for the NL. And let’s face it… the reality is that it’s inevitable anyway. The NL might as well go ahead and accept it and take advantage of the benefits. “Resistance is futile.”

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  52. 74 berigan2electricboogaloo February 6, 2019 at 8:41 am

    so I am Confused….I pitcher say a lefty,comes in and gets a tough lefty to ground into a DP on one pitch to end the inning. he would then have to face a tough righty the next inning?

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    • 75 Vox O'Reasoñ February 6, 2019 at 8:51 am

      Not sure as I haven’t seen the whole proposal. But I get the concept. Changing pitchers every batter makes an inning drag on forever. It’s the next step beyond limiting mound visits in the evolution of game time management.

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  53. 76 berigan2electricboogaloo February 6, 2019 at 8:45 am

    A pitcher…sigh

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  54. 77 Vox O'Reasoñ February 6, 2019 at 9:08 am

    ESPN reports these details: Dueling proposals from MLB on Jan. 14 and the union on Friday covered a wide range of topics, according to sources. Among them include:

    A three-batter minimum for pitchers [for pace of play]

    A universal designated hitter [to placate the MLBPA]

    A single trade deadline before the All-Star break [because 2 deadlines is no deadline]

    A 20-second pitch clock [for pace of play]

    The expansion of rosters to 26 men, with a 12-pitcher maximum [to placate the MLBPA]

    Draft advantages for winning teams and penalties for losing teams [to dissuade “tanking”]

    A study to lower the mound [because chicks dig the longball]

    A rule that would allow two-sport amateurs to sign major league contracts [because MLB is losing its best athletes to the instant payday of the NBA and NFL]

    ESPN also notes: “The league’s other bid to deal with pace of play was the enactment of a 20-second pitch clock, something commissioner Rob Manfred can put into place unilaterally. While numerous players have spoken out against the pitch clock, the recognition that Manfred has the ability to mandate it, even without the union’s support, gives him leverage on the issue, according to sources.”

    In other words, Manfred can implement the pace of play rules by arbitrary order, thus some of the other roster related measures are probably offered up to give the players something in their favor especially with rumblings of player discord in advance of the current CBA expiring in just 3 years.

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  55. 78 Vox O'Reasoñ February 6, 2019 at 9:17 am

    As I understand, there are owner meetings next week just ahead of camps opening the following week, where these proposed rule changes will be discussed. Some are being proposed for 2019, while the players reportedly would like to hold off until 2020. Obviously this is a story that will continue to unfold over the next several days.

    But can you imagine them being imposed right away, as GMs and managers are already trying to construct teams and rosters? Would AA have acted differently if he knew of any possible changes in roster needs?

    I cannot imagine they would hit teams with a DH or new roster limits this season. It changes the entire complexion of roster building… which has been in process for months.

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  56. 79 Vox O'Reasoñ February 6, 2019 at 9:20 am

    More close to home with our Braves… if the unthinkable were to happen and the DH was imposed right away. who would be ours? How would Snit make the lineup in that instance? It changes everything.

    I will say this, though. It would make a guy like Johan Camargo even more important. He could play all over the field almost everyday and still keep the heavy lumber in the lineup at the same time. Heck, maybe I want this to happen quickly after all. 😀

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  57. 80 Vox O'Reasoñ February 6, 2019 at 9:27 am

    I do find it interesting that these proposed rule changes seek to eliminate “specialists” on the pitching side, but would add “specialists” on the hitting side. Sort of tells you in a nutshell what they’re trying to accomplish, doesn’t it?

    Shorter, higher scoring games.

    Of course, Greg Maddux would scoff at it all anyway and pitch 9 innings in under 2 hours against all batters regardless of specialty. “There is nothing new under the sun.” (Ha. I worked in a bible verse on a baseball blog. Awesome.)

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  58. 81 Vox O'Reasoñ February 6, 2019 at 12:05 pm

    Ha ha ha ha ha

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  59. 82 Vox O'Reasoñ February 6, 2019 at 12:07 pm

    I’m with EOF.

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    • 83 Gil in Mechanicsville February 6, 2019 at 1:17 pm

      pitch clock sucks until you get a guy who takes 45 seconds between pitches besides stepping off the mound once or twice and throwing over to first then asking for a new ball…

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  60. 84 Vox O'Reasoñ February 6, 2019 at 12:08 pm

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  61. 85 Vox O'Reasoñ February 6, 2019 at 12:16 pm

    I think the Phillies have entered the JTR derby because they realize they could miss out on both Bryce and Manny, and they have to make a splash in some way after their “stupid money” comments.

    What are the chances that it’s not teams/owners holding up the signing of Bryce and Manny, but maybe the two players themselves? Is it possible that each are waiting for the other to sign to A) have more contract leverage with the remaining teams, and B) angle for the higher contract? I think that’s a fairly plausible reality.

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  62. 86 berigan2electricboogaloo February 6, 2019 at 1:01 pm

    V, I COMPLETELY misread what you posted, I thought it was a 3 pitch minimum! Though in my defense (Slightly) it’s a crazy idea to have a pitcher face 3 hitters. What if it’s a 3-2 game in the 8th, bases loaded, and he walks a hitter on 4 pitches? Then he has to face 2 more guys, and walks them both???? or a guy gives up back to back homers in a 4-2 game? He still has to face a 3rd hitter? Fans are not going to like losing games to some new, lame rule….thats just what I have thought of now, I am sure many more what-ifs will come up very shortly

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  63. 87 berigan2electricboogaloo February 6, 2019 at 1:04 pm

    DH???? Evan Gattis!!! at least from the right side of course

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  64. 88 Vox O'Reasoñ February 6, 2019 at 3:04 pm

    On the above proposed rule changes, there is a little more clarity this afternoon.

    These proposed changes have been born from recent discussions held between MLB and the MLBPA. Those rules that deal with pace of play all originated from MLB, whereas the rules dealing with rosters – DH, roster size, trade deadline, etc. – all originated with the MLBPA.

    It’s entirely possible that MLB could cave to the union and allow the DH in the NL as soon as this year, but it sure would put NL execs in a bind having already constructed their rosters under the old system. And while common sense might dictate that any such major change should be put off until 2020, don’t rule anything out. “Common” sense is no longer common, and trying to keep the union happy might trump (no pun intended) better judgement… especially with new CBA negotiations on the horizon.

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  65. 89 Vox O'Reasoñ February 6, 2019 at 3:08 pm

    Something else to consider…

    There has already been veiled whispers of collusion with regard to a second year of extremely slow FA movement. The union might sense they have MLB in a corner and are exerting a little bit of pressure to get some long wanted additional job security. DH? 26 man roster? You can bet the union wants these more than anything, and there could be a handshake settlement to allow these concessions to not get more vocal about collusion against FAs.

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    • 90 Gil in Mechanicsville February 6, 2019 at 3:27 pm

      aha.. the “C” word…. is there collusion? doubtful, just 30 GMs that don’t want to bankrupt their team by paying $30 MM a year to one player for the next 10 years. What is the incentive for a player after they sign a big contract to not “short arm” the ball and phone it in for 2/3rds of the season? Just saying…

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  66. 91 Vox O'Reasoñ February 6, 2019 at 5:41 pm

    30 GMs that don’t want to bankrupt their team by paying $30 MM a year to one player

    They are raking in billions… that’s Billions with a “B”. They aren’t going bankrupt.

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  67. 92 Vox O'Reasoñ February 6, 2019 at 5:47 pm

    One more thing on that topic…

    Bryce Harper may cost you $30M per year added to the payroll, but he’ll generate as much in a bump in attendance, TV ratings, merchandise, national exposure, etc. None of these actions happen in a vacuum.

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  68. 93 berigan2electricboogaloo February 6, 2019 at 10:01 pm

    V, agree! He would become the face of the franchise (for better or worse) but could you imagine FF, batting behind him???? (yes, you could go either way, but Harper does have more overall power, IMHO)

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  69. 94 Vox O'Reasoñ February 7, 2019 at 8:57 am

    OK good folks. I am about to be out of town for the next 3 days, chaperoning a group of high school kids at a statewide thespian convention. Please pray for me. 😉 Seriously, they are great kids, but I will be a bit out of pocket. I’ll check back in when possible, but it is likely to be infrequently. At best I’ll make a ton of typos working off my phone.

    Naturally, we’ll probably have a big trade and/or signing while I’m gone…

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  70. 96 berigan2electricboogaloo February 7, 2019 at 9:48 am

    V, will pray for you! Try to keep the kids away from any avowed racists . And remember, standing still and smiling it probably a hate crime these days :/

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  71. 97 Vox O'Reasoñ February 7, 2019 at 10:29 am

    Yes!!

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  72. 99 Vox O'Reasoñ February 7, 2019 at 11:32 am

    Even on a school bus, I can find rumblings. Looks like the JTR saga could come to a head today. Look for a Phillies overpay.

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  73. 100 Vox O'Reasoñ February 7, 2019 at 11:40 am

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  74. 102 Gil in Mechanicsville February 7, 2019 at 11:40 am

    thespian convention Tell the kids if confronted by evil doers to act innocent… 🙂

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  75. 103 berigan2electricboogaloo February 7, 2019 at 12:44 pm

    well, of course I don’t know the Phils prospects all that well, but what I am hearing now, 19 Y.O. pitcher, and a 25 Y.O. catcher that played a fair bit last year…just doesn’t sound like a terribly big hall for the Marlins…though there may be another Phils top 10 guy as well…..

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  76. 104 Vox O'Reasoñ February 7, 2019 at 1:06 pm

    Unconfirmed reports say their #1, P Sixto Sanchez, young C Jorge Alfaro, another top 10, possibly OF Mickey Moniak, plus a 4th prospect. Miami is insisting on 4, and it’s that last piece that is holding it up from being a done deal.

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  77. 105 Vox O'Reasoñ February 7, 2019 at 1:08 pm

    If it goes down that way. I’m cool with it. In fact I’m happy that philly is stripping away the top of their prospect list for 2 years of JTR.

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  78. 106 Vox O'Reasoñ February 7, 2019 at 2:52 pm

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  79. 107 Gil in Mechanicsville February 7, 2019 at 3:02 pm

    Okay, take another chip off the board.

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  80. 108 Gil in Mechanicsville February 7, 2019 at 5:31 pm

    I would have liked to have had Realamuto, but I will get over it, there are some other players I would like to see Atlanta acquire but like everyone else, I will have to wait and see.

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  81. 111 berigan2electricboogaloo February 7, 2019 at 7:22 pm

    Not happy that the Phils are better, but….like V said, they have lost a few guys that would be headaches for the braves….down the road….seems the braves could have made a much better offer, but I have a sneaking suspicion Thoppy probably offered more than he wanted to, and they asked for even more, which made the braves back off ….I just had fears of Ian Anderson, Austin Riley, and toss in Gohara, being folks that haunted the braves for the next decade, all for 2 years of a catcher….

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  82. 112 berigan2electricboogaloo February 7, 2019 at 7:34 pm

    Sad to lose a great like Frank Robinson. Rookie of the year (at 20, 38 homers) traded by the Reds to the Orioles at the age of 30 ( I believe the Reds thought he was on the way down) then had his best year of his career (49 HR’s 122 RBI’s , 122 Runs, .316 BA .410 OBP, all which lead the league!) his 586 HR’s were 4th best all time when he retired….then became the first African-American manager (And I think the last player-manager) seemed to be doing a pretty good job as the Nats manager, too bad he didn’t get a chance to go to the playoffs…

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  83. 113 Vox O'Reasoñ February 8, 2019 at 1:20 pm

    Today’s revelation is that AA was willing to trade any prospect, Anderson and Riley included, in a JTR package… it was just the volume that MIA asked in return that was deemed too excessive. And for that judgment, I am grateful. Phillies paid a very high price.

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  84. 114 Gil in Mechanicsville February 8, 2019 at 2:35 pm

    Yes, no more Texeria sized deals is a good mantra…

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  85. 115 Gil in Mechanicsville February 8, 2019 at 8:42 pm

    Headline on the Braves MLB site, Have the Braves done enough in the off season to keep pace in the NL East?

    Well, no… IMO but it is still early yet and a trade might yet ensue for an ACE or Kimbrel… Okay, Kimbrel would just take money but y’all get the idea. After all, what position piece could the Braves add right now that would be that much of an upgrade?

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  86. 116 berigan2electricboogaloo February 9, 2019 at 12:38 am

    You know…I kinda hoped Thoppy was smarter than that….after trading Thor, you would think you wouldn’t want to give up a #1 kinda guy for 2 years of control…..yikes….

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  87. 117 Vox O'Reasoñ February 9, 2019 at 5:53 pm

    In published reports today, it was shown that Miami wanted Austin Riley and Cristian Pache, plus one of our Top 10 pitchers.

    No thanks.

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  88. 118 Gil in Mechanicsville February 9, 2019 at 8:31 pm

    Yes, that would have been a pretty steep price for 2 years… Ask Ron Washington… He was the beneficiary of the last Braves overpay.

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  89. 119 Vox O'Reasoñ February 10, 2019 at 2:17 pm

    Ha ha ha

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  90. 122 Gil in Mechanicsville February 10, 2019 at 3:05 pm

    Okay Alex, get out your phone and your pen and sign Kimbrel…

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  91. 123 Vox O'Reasoñ February 11, 2019 at 9:16 am

    There was a report out late yesterday that says that Cleveland is now unlikely to trade Corey Kluber. According to Jon Paul Morosi, “… multiple sources said that there is almost no chance Kluber will be dealt before the start of Spring Training. And since Indians pitchers and catchers begin official workouts on Thursday, little time remains for discussions to revive.”

    Of course, they still need OF’s in a bad way, but it looks like that CLE –> ATL train has left the station.

    So… there’s still money to spend. And alot of it. In fact, there’s enough to spread around both Craig Kimbrel and Dallas Keuchel, especially if Julio can be sent away upon the signing of Keuchel.

    Will I feel betrayed and/or lied to if this team heads into camp with a total payroll under last year’s, when there are clear upgrades still available on the FA market? Yeah… a little. I gotta admit it. Especially since we’ve gone lateral at beast with 2 of our “big” acquisitions this offseason. JD is certainly a major talent. No question. But Mac, while a nice feel good coming home story, is a stretch to reproduce Zuk’s production. I’m still worried about McFlowers going the full 162. And obviously Nick = Nick. And more than likely 2019 Nick < 2018 Nick.

    So it’s good, but I don’t feel it’s enough. This team needs a clear veteran upgrade from Julio. At this point in his career, Julio should not be the team’s #4 starter, especially at a $11M salary.

    And while I like what we have in our bullpen, and consider it to be “good”, is “good” good enough?

    I’ve repeatedly advocated for a Kluber/Kimbrel two-fer. But if I can’t get those 2 “K”s, I’ll settle for Keuchel/Kimbrel.

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  92. 124 Gil in Mechanicsville February 11, 2019 at 9:47 am

    Agreed Vee, we don’t know all the goings on behind closed doors but it is unlikely the Braves will have a better record within the division than last year with the upgrades made by the Mets, Phillies and Nats. Every other NL East foe gets to beat up on the Marlins so that is a wash…

    Trades are always iffy because you don’t always know when that 20 something is going to be the next Barry Bonds or Greg Maddux but free agents are only money… We are not talking about signing a 30 year old to a ten year contract but a young player for five is not a stretch.

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  93. 125 Gordon Lawrence February 11, 2019 at 11:50 am

    I pretty sanguine of any moves before the 15th.

    I really thought KIMBREL would be coming home, but age and his down year has taken the luster off that six-year, demand he obviously still has out there.

    If he would drop to three at 15, I think the BRAVES among many others would consider him a great get.
    I’m sure he will play this year, but not sure it will ever be the BRAVES.

    Anyway lots of prognosticators say TOUKI is going to be a #5 starter to begin the season. That’s what ST is all about. To find out if he’s a contender or pretender.

    In the ‘pen, some feel SAM FREEMAN will return, prolly because he’s a lefty.
    I dunno. With BIDDLE, VENTERS, DAYTON, and MINTER, FREEMAN’s gonna’ have some pretty stiff competition for a third lefty ‘pen arm with FRIED and GOHARA lurking if they don’t man a rotation slot.

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  94. 126 Vox O'Reasoñ February 11, 2019 at 12:21 pm

    IMO, Max Fried will surprise alot of people this year. He’s been somewhat forgotten, but he’s a talented kid. Most likely bullpen, but won’t be surprised if he takes the #5 spot. Like you said, it’s all about competition now.

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  95. 127 Vox O'Reasoñ February 11, 2019 at 1:22 pm

    I wish I had originated this, but I just read it and am stealing it – more like borrowing it – to post here.

    Tomahawk Take’s Jake Mastroianni provided these little tidbits of knowledge:

    Baseball Reference projects [Tyler] Flowers to hit .250 this year with 11 home runs and 44 RBI in 332 at-bats. [Brian] McCann is projected to hit .230 with 13 home runs and 42 RBI in 305 at-bats.

    Combined, the two are projected to hit around .240 with 24 home runs and 86 RBI.

    By comparison, [J.T.] Realmuto hit .277 last year with 21 home runs and 74 RBI in 477 at-bats.

    If we could get a combined .240, 24 HRs, 86 RBI out of our catching tandem, I’d be quite satisfied.

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  96. 128 Vox O'Reasoñ February 11, 2019 at 2:02 pm

    From the In Case You Missed It dept.:

    SunTrust Bank and BB&T announced on Thursday a huge multi-million dollar “merger of equals” that will be completed sometime “in the fourth quarter of 2019”, or likely after the 2019 baseball season is over.

    What does this even have to do with baseball, or more specifically the Braves? Well, the two banks are going in as equals. It isn’t a case of one gobbling up the other. Thus, the new mega-bank will not carry either of the former’s name. So as you have probably put together by now, SunTrust Park will have to be renamed for 2020.

    STP we hardly knew ya.

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  97. 134 Gil in Mechanicsville February 11, 2019 at 6:11 pm

    Latest on the Bryce Harper watch… MLB saying Harper’s ask is 10 years- $400 million… That is a stretch even for billionaire. San Fran says the will offer a 2 year deal for a boat load of cash.

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  98. 135 Gil in Mechanicsville February 11, 2019 at 6:13 pm

    Julio says he doesn’t care where Harper signs as long as he doesn’t have to pitch to him. Teheran figures to see his ERA drop by a full run with Harper gone… Just saying…

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  99. 136 Gil in Mechanicsville February 11, 2019 at 6:16 pm

    I am not a CPA but I would love for someone to figure the real difference in taxes playing in states like Georgia, Texas and Florida vs Cali and New York .

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  100. 137 Gil in Mechanicsville February 12, 2019 at 9:24 am

    “I’m sure you’ve noticed what other teams in the National League East have done this off-season?

    I’ve noticed, just like everybody else. It’s like all we did was piss everybody else off by winning the division.”

    Brian Snitker replying to Jeff Schultz in the Athletic

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  101. 138 Gil in Mechanicsville February 12, 2019 at 9:31 am

    Just an observation about stuff… A lot of folks are whining that their Federal Income tax refunds are not as big as in the past. I don’t think they have taken into account that less taxes were withheld from their paycheck each payday. People sure can be stupid…. Stop using you withholding like a Christmas Club account. Okay, off the soapbox for now…

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  102. 139 Vox O'Reasoñ February 12, 2019 at 10:07 am

    Well, here we are 3 days before P&CR, and we’re still waiting for that one additional big move that we – plus most local media jockeys – have been anticipating.

    So what “big” moves are even still possible? Well, barring some completely under the radar name that comes out of nowhere, there are really only 6 possible impact moves remaining: sign Bruce Harper, sign Manny Machado, sign Dallas Keuchel, sign Craig Kimbrel, sign Marwin Gonzalez, trade for Corey Kluber.

    There are some other FA signings possible that do not make sense, such as Gio Gonzalez or Adam Jones. But AA will not sign or trade for a pitcher, starter or reliever, that is not a clear upgrade over what we already have. Thus, my list above. Same can be said for position players. Unless it’s a clear upgrade, we don’t need it.

    So let’s looks at those 6 names…

    Corey Kluber: Might as well include his teammate Trevor Bauer in this as well as CLE has dangled both. But recent published reports say that CLE would have to be “blown away” by prospects to trade either. I think AA demonstrated in the JTR saga that he will not rape his pipeline for any player.

    Marwin Gonzalez: I can’t see it. He would certainly upgrade our bench, but he’s looking for a starting job. Plus, we already have our own version of him in Johan Camargo.

    Manny Machado: Would cost a boatload of money. Would also require Dansby’s spot on the IF. Now, to be clear, I do think he is an upgrade over Dansby. I think that is a given. But adding Manny and subtracting Dansby from the clubhouse would cause collateral damage. And given the whole boatload of money thing, I would give very long odds on seeing “Manny Big Ears” (sounds like a mob nickname) in a Braves uni. If he were a perfect fit maybe, but he’s not.

    Bryce Harper: Would cost a boatload of money. Probably a bigger boat than Manny. But… he would easily slot right into our OF and give us a murderer’s row in the lineup. He would also give the organization some market credibility at a time when everyone around the country looks at Atlanta as being cheap. He would prove to every other potential FA that the Braves are serious about putting together a winning team. I won’t even mention marketing, TV and attendance. His signing would also allow AA to dangle Ender to OF starved teams for a decent return in either prospects or pitching. (Remember, these moves do not happen in a vacuum. Each one has a ripple effect of other events that will occur.)

    Dallas Keuchel: AA has stated that draft pick compensation attached to these guys is not an obstacle. He;s concerned only with cost. Thus far, DK’s asking price has not come down to what AA finds palatable. Remember, DK is on the other side of 30, thus he’s simply not going to receive an offer greater than 3 years. It’s my understanding he’s looking for 4. That said, he would be a clear upgrade for us. Remember, Anibal Sanchez started Game 2 for us in the playoffs. Anibal Sanchez. We need another veteran starter not named Julio. Our starting rotation can be good, but “good” is not going to be good enough in this division. Acquiring DK would give us the bump we must have to remain competitive in the NL East. And his signing would be somewhat offset by trading Julio, meaning if you give him 3 years at $22M per year, the additional cost in 2019 would only be $11M when you subtract what is owed to Julio.

    Craig Kimbrel: Just yes. That’s all I have to say about that.

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  103. 141 Vox O'Reasoñ February 12, 2019 at 12:58 pm

    Love EOF…

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  104. 142 Vox O'Reasoñ February 12, 2019 at 2:22 pm

    Today I am of the point of view that I want AA to forget everyone else and sign Bryce to a big deal. I want him to put all of baseball on notice that the Braves are serious about winning and that if we fail it won’t be because we didn’t put all our cards on the table. I do not want to go into 2019 with “ifs” and “?’s” hoping that we can overachieve again. I’ll take my chances on our young pitching both in the rotation and the bullpen, but I want to bludgeon other teams to death with Acuña, Bryce, Freddie and JD.

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  105. 144 Vox O'Reasoñ February 13, 2019 at 9:59 am

    Ah, just 2 days before P&CR. I am systematically weening myself off of all the personnel speculation, trade targets, etc. It’s not been easy. I have deleted a number of browser shortcuts to various writers around the country, as well as some specific ones in specific regions of rumored trade targets. I am backing down to just the locals… well, maybe 1 or 2 others, but you can’t expect a guy to go cold turkey, now can you?

    But at this point, I’m tired. (It doesn’t help that I am in the clutches of an insidious cold, but I digress…) I’m tired of trying to simulate doing the job of a guy that gets paid a whopping undisclosed salary to be the Executive Vice President/General Manager. And I’m tired of seeing guys I’d like to see in Atlanta going elsewhere. That’s probably what makes me the most tired.

    In summary, I’m tired of being tired. So today I am looking forward to P&CR. I’m concentrating on the guys who already have lockers in Disney. I’m looking forward to seeing how the execs and media types respond to seeing Ian Anderson in his first major league camp. I’m looking forward to seeing Austin Riley justify the steel grip the organization kept on him. I’m looking forward to the death stare of Bryce Wilson on the mound. (He is becoming one of my favorite prospects. Don’t count him out in the race for the 5th starter’s spot.) I am looking forward to seeing Ronald Acuña clowning during the spring workouts. I am looking forward to seeing a healthy Dansby Swanson. I am looking forward to seeing a more mature Sean Newcomb.

    I could go on and on with the things I am looking forward to seeing this spring, but suffice to say that I am looking forward to seeing my team back in action. Contending or rebuilding, and all points in between, I love ’em. And I can’t wait to see ’em again.

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  106. 145 Vox O'Reasoñ February 13, 2019 at 11:06 am

    Optimism.

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  107. 146 Gil in Mechanicsville February 13, 2019 at 11:23 am

    Good morning everyone, another slow day in Braves Country…. SIGH! Lots of folks are picking the Braves to finish 4th in the division this season but when you only have a couple of games separating the best team from the 4th place team, it means a lot depends on the X factor. Things like team chemistry and injuries and not losing games you should have won and winning games you should have lost.

    In the past we have seen Kimbrel (who is high on my want list) get worn down towards the end of the season but having a kid like AJ Minter learning at Kimbrel’s knee and spelling him every third game.

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  108. 147 Vox O'Reasoñ February 13, 2019 at 12:23 pm

    I do not often post an entire article here, but this one is quite significant and worthy of the entire read. It’s from Alan Carpenter at Tomahawk Take:

    For years now – thanks an the ‘insider’ deal hatched to sell the Atlanta Braves – the team has been saddled with a below-market-value television rights contract.

    It was back in 2014 that this contract was renegotiated (and most likely extended) to provide a bit of financial power coming back to the team.

    Nonetheless, this contract still remains as one of the elements that is holding down overall revenues for the club and it acts as a large weight that is keeping them from competing with the rest of the large market franchises at higher payroll levels.

    That situation has the potential to change… and a lot sooner than expected.

    Some months ago (last June), the Walt Disney Corporation entered into an agreement with Fox to purchase their movie and television operations and other assets. As with most large corporate mergers or buyouts, there’s a process of government regulatory review, and the US Department of Justice had an objection… one that has been settled with an agreement on both sides.

    The DOJ will approve the sale provided that Disney divest itself of a specific portion of the Fox universe: their Regional Sports Networks (RSNs)… 22 of them.

    Among the networks that would be part of this spinoff sale are the very networks that the Braves are contracted with for broadcast of the vast majority of their games: FOX Sports South and FOX Sports Southeast.

    It seems that Disney is finding it difficult to locate buyers for this enterprise, though, and that is leading to an interesting possible competition.

    According to Awful Announcing, two of the more prominent bidders remaining now are Major League Baseball itself and Liberty Media – the parent company of the Braves.

    What’s most intriguing here is that Liberty Media (LM) is thus bidding on the rights to own the very TV contract that is still hamstringing the Braves.

    A successful purchase would mean that they wouldn’t even have to renegotiate any deal… they’d own both sides of the transaction, and all of the downstream revenues would flow to the company.

    In more practical terms, if they saw fit, they could choose to axe and re-make the contract with the Braves, for that would allow easier cash flow to the team – if that’s the route they would choose.

    Could it be?

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  109. 150 Vox O'Reasoñ February 13, 2019 at 2:06 pm

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  110. 151 Vox O'Reasoñ February 14, 2019 at 8:13 am

    Alot of people seem to think those two would fit. But does AA? He’s the only one that counts.

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  111. 152 Vox O'Reasoñ February 14, 2019 at 8:19 am

    Gil, you may have to summarize the above referenced article for the rest of us…

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    • 153 Gil in Mechanicsville February 14, 2019 at 9:17 am

      “When the Braves left Atlanta and moved 15 miles to the north in Cobb County, on the other side of the disposable income dividing line, they did so for one reason — money. It wasn’t to get closer to their fans, as they so often spun publicly. It was because county administrators quietly cut them the public-funding deal of a lifetime and gave ownership the opportunity to be commercial real estate landlords. It was Scrooge McDuck nirvana.

      The Braves’ public talking points focused on the potential positive ripple effect of the deal: A development called The Battery would be built adjacent to SunTrust Park. The revenue generated by both would flow into the organization. Payroll would skyrocket. A river of free agents would potentially follow.

      You can wake up now.”

      Screen grab from Shultz’ opening salvo… He pretty much said the same thing that we have been saying.. White man from the north speak with forked tongue. Reading the entire article what I gathered was this. We may or may not have money to spend but we are not going to tell you how much. We have been teasing folks with the amount but the bottom line is this.

      If we were playing blackjack , we would be at the $5 table and we are going to play a long time because even if we have deep pockets, we are going to be cautious because going all in at this point could mean going to bed early.

      Another way to look at it is a song from the “Best Little Whorehouse in Texas” I Love to do a Little Sidestep Here is the refrain:

      Ooh I love to dance a little sidestep, now they see me now they don’t-
      I’ve come and gone and, ooh I love to sweep around the wide step,
      cut a little swathe and lead the people on.

      Ooh I love to dance a little sidestep…

      And, ooh I love to sweep around the wide step…

      Cut a little swathe and lead the people on.

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  112. 154 Vox O'Reasoñ February 14, 2019 at 8:49 am

    Then again, I can probably guess what was said.

    We have the money to spend, we just haven’t found the right deal that makes sense for us.

    We are not going to spend money just for the sake of spending money.

    Liberty Media has not stopped us from making any deals.

    We do not want to make any deals this year that prevents us from making deals next year.

    We will spend more next year, we promise.

    Was I close?

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  113. 156 Vox O'Reasoñ February 14, 2019 at 9:01 am

    The team is banking on the current youngsters taking a step forward, and the new youngsters emerging and contributing. And that very well could happen. But to take the stance that you don’t want to sign a veteran that will block a youngster is just not accurate.

    Exhibit A: Josh Donaldson

    Now, I am quite happy they signed JD. But he does block a youngster, so that argument is no longer valid.

    Can this team, as currently constructed, compete with the free spending Mets, Phillies and Nationals? Yes they can if alot of factors go their way. But there’s no room for anyone to have a bad season. And if two key guys slump or there is a key long term injury, it could get ugly.

    Right now, this organization can afford to add a remaining impact veteran, be it a pitcher or a hitter. It could happen. There are players still out there that could transform this team from a team that must overachieve again, to a team that should achieve again.

    Do I think we must react to what other teams are doing? Not directly. No exec should act just out of response. But at the same time we cannot allow the other teams to start the race with a drastic head start either. Not when there is something we can do about it.

    AA… do something about it.

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    • 157 Gil in Mechanicsville February 14, 2019 at 9:25 am

      Vee, you are point on… It is back to If everything lines up perfectly for us, we will be big winners again business model. We saw a lot of that with Frank Wren. If you are going to always be playing at the small table, you are never going to win a big pot.

      Sure, tell me how the government doesn’t win big providing a numbers game were not only do the win at least half off the top but get to take half your winnings in taxes too… No wonder everyone wants to own a casino…

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  114. 158 Gil in Mechanicsville February 14, 2019 at 9:28 am

    A lesson learned from personal experience: Never do business with a guy who only uses a passport for identification….

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  115. 159 Vox O'Reasoñ February 14, 2019 at 10:25 am

    I just typed a scathing rant that spewed alot of venom and vitriol toward the organization. But I read it over and typed this over it instead. I’m not sure why their opening up and saying things to the media what we already know should make me angry. At least they are honest, sort of, about it. But like I said, we already knew the excuses anyway.

    Bottom line is that we will continue to be the Rays vs. the Yankees and Red Sox. I might as well accept it and move on.

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  116. 160 Gil in Mechanicsville February 14, 2019 at 10:38 am

    Yes Vee, perhaps the Braves are just trying to get the fans to get it all out of their system early. Then after they lose the first two out of three to the Phillies to begin the season, they can say “Well, you don’t usually end up with the same 25 guys at the end of the season as you start with”

    Lord help Nick if he starts the season in a slump… Hoo-boy… AA will need an armed guard to escort him around Atlanta.

    While I think the Marlins are a joke, what will be regarded as the greater accomplishment? Finishing first in their division 14 years in a row or winning two World Series titles in the same span?

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  117. 161 Vox O'Reasoñ February 14, 2019 at 10:50 am

    I hope he’s right…

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  118. 162 Vox O'Reasoñ February 14, 2019 at 2:54 pm

    Red ones too.

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  119. 163 Carolina Lady February 14, 2019 at 3:27 pm

    LOL

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    • 165 Vox O'Reasoñ February 15, 2019 at 8:07 am

      There is alot of exasperation out there. No question. Does it matter? Hard to say, but I think the Braves front office may have underestimated the backlash. While I agree that a GM cannot form a strategy by sticking his finger to the prevailing winds of fan opinion, he also cannot ignore its potential power… especially in the age of social media. What used to be a smoldering pocket of displeasure can now easily be stoked into a full fury of anger and resentment.

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  120. 166 Vox O'Reasoñ February 15, 2019 at 8:08 am

    I am trying very hard to be excited. Very hard.

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  121. 167 Vox O'Reasoñ February 15, 2019 at 8:10 am

    Looks like good weather…

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  122. 168 Vox O'Reasoñ February 15, 2019 at 8:29 am

    #BSOML

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  123. 169 Gil in Mechanicsville February 15, 2019 at 9:04 am

    Yes Vee, AA and McQuirk may have stepped in it big time. I guess they have the same attitude most every other carpet bagger had when coming to the South. They are just a bunch of ignorant hillbillys and wouldn’t know the difference between winning and treading water.

    I keep thinking about the old bromide that goes: “They think I am a mushroom because they keep me in the dark and feed me bullshit”…

    Having a history of working for big corporations and being a Union rep many of those years, I know when someone blowing smoke up my butt…. Yes, I know it is a business and lot of things have to be taken into account but waiting until you are 10 games out of first before making a move is not a great business model.

    Let’s be honest, why do folks think Atlanta is a small market? They sure do everything to perpetuate that line don’t they?

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  124. 170 Gil in Mechanicsville February 15, 2019 at 9:07 am

    No, I don’t think Thoppy has to blow up the budget but he does need to show some good faith in shelling out some cash to improve the team. I don’t see where dumpster diving is a very good plan for filling out your needs to improve your team works very often.

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  125. 171 Vox O'Reasoñ February 15, 2019 at 9:16 am

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  126. 172 Vox O'Reasoñ February 15, 2019 at 9:16 am

    Truth or fake news?

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  127. 174 Vox O'Reasoñ February 15, 2019 at 9:18 am

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  128. 175 Vox O'Reasoñ February 15, 2019 at 9:19 am

    If this is more than just the typical smoke with no fire, and AA does indeed get a deal done to bring Kimbrel home, is all forgiven?

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    • 176 Vox O'Reasoñ February 15, 2019 at 9:30 am

      Again, to be clear, it’s a good place to start. But I still want that veteran addition to my rotation. Add Kimbrel and a top starter and I’ll forget the whole condescending interview.

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  129. 177 Vox O'Reasoñ February 15, 2019 at 9:45 am

    Here is where I continue to struggle with that piece that appeared in The Athletic. (With all due credit to Gil for sharing it’s content, and to most of Braves nation for quoting it in their own respective rants.)

    I still cannot decide if they were treating me like an idiot, or just simply attempting to lessen fan expectation that they themselves built to a high level early in the offseason. We all saw the comments made by McGuirk that the payroll would increase. And we all saw the comments by AA that said we could shop in every aisle without limitation. So they are directly responsible for the high level of fan expectation.

    If the interview was simply an attempt to reset the bar at a lower level, they failed miserably. In all honesty, I don’t think they were consciously treating us all like stooges. Neither of them has risen in executive ranks by being idiots themselves. But they severely miscalculated the impact their answers would have. If they felt they were addressing fan concerns and soothing our feelings, they were wrong. We all came away feeling “talked down to”, to a certain degree.

    IMO, these guys got caught flatfooted and unprepared. And it has cost them credibility in the eyes of the fans. Both are going to have to work to regain it now.

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  130. 178 Gordon Lawrence February 15, 2019 at 10:53 am

    Have any of you investigated the DISNEY merger involving the telecast rights on FOX? My understanding the government mandated a spin-off of rights with two options:

    Option 1 : MLB gets them……..ugh!
    Option two: Liberty Media gets them which doesn’t sound very appealing to me either.

    Seems it’s all about the money, not the fans.

    Sincerely, I don’t understand exactly what happens if LM controls both sides of telecast rights.

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    • 179 Vox O'Reasoñ February 15, 2019 at 11:41 am

      Actually, the courts ordered that the FOX networks be sold separately, with MLB and Liberty Media being 2 prominent bidders. But the bidding is wide own to whomever has a few billion samolians lying around.

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  131. 180 Gil in Mechanicsville February 15, 2019 at 11:04 am

    Gordon, it is simply a rehash of Ted Turner with TBS and the Braves. Different day, same tune…

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  132. 184 Gil in Mechanicsville February 15, 2019 at 11:05 am

    I would also think that simply selling the rights would not change existing contract agreements.

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  133. 186 Vox O'Reasoñ February 15, 2019 at 11:36 am

    I mentioned something briefly about the TV rights a few days back…

    Bottom line is this: It would be HUGE if Liberty Media can purchased the TV rights currently held by FOX. because they would then own both sides of the broadcast rights contract. They could then A) renegotiate the terms that have been so onerous to the team into something more in line with the industry norm, or B) simply allow all the “downstream revenues” to flow to the company. In simpler terms, that option would eliminate the middleman.

    Why does the YES network pay the Yankees so much for exclusive rights? The TV revenues are enormous. If Liberty Media was to own the cow, they wouldn’t have to pay for the milk. The only question that would remain would be how much of the butterfat would trickle down to the team.

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  134. 187 Vox O'Reasoñ February 15, 2019 at 11:46 am

    Goes to back up my theory that each of Harper and Machado are waiting for the other to sign first because it increases the leverage of the guy that remains.

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  135. 188 Vox O'Reasoñ February 15, 2019 at 11:56 am

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  136. 189 Vox O'Reasoñ February 15, 2019 at 12:46 pm

    I just listened to a very interesting take on the much regurgitated article in The Athletic that has set off such a firestorm in Braves nations. And I have to admit, it has left me thinking about my own reaction.

    First, the commentator made a strong reference to the article’s author, Jeff Schultz. Schultz was a former sports columnist for the AJC, covering a number of different topics dealing with all the local sports in the city. And the radio commentator reminded me of something I had forgotten, mainly because I stopped reading the AJC years ago. Jeff Schultz was always an agitator. He was the heel in the room that always took a contrarian point of view to stir the pot. For example, Schultz wrote a series of scathing columns criticizing the Braves for leaving Atlanta city proper for Cobb County. He was relentless in his attacks on them for abandoning the city, even as his own fish-wrapper had left the city years ago for a headquarters in suburban Dunwoody. In media, you always have to have an agitator to create dialogue or else you just have everyone in agreement. That was Jeff Schultz’ role at the AJC, and apparently it’s the one he has taken on at The Athletic.

    And here’s where it really hit me… upon seeing teases on the article – tweets and retweets, etc. – I have to admit I gave about 5 minutes of consideration to subscribing to the pay-per-view media outlet so that I could see for myself what all the hubbub was about. I got all the way to the part where you put in your credit card #, then backed away when realizing that I was not acting, but reacting.

    So here’s my point. Jeff Schultz went into that interview with a long held agenda – to put up a negative leaning article that would create buzz and clicks for his employer. And he was wildly successful, gaining even national attention out of it. The fallout may even have exceeded his own hopes. But the result carries collateral damage as well. The negative press that the Braves are now incurring can be damaging to the team. There isn’t a more optimistic fan in Braves Nation than this guy, but I was so mad I typed some things in a rant that I would not be proud of posting… and fortunately thought better of it before actually posting.

    I was admittedly swayed. And I am ashamed that I fell victim to the commonplace agenda driven media that no longer reports the news so that I can make up my own mind, but now tells me how I’m supposed to think as well.

    I think my anger has now been redirected from AA to Schultz.

    And I feel alot better because of it.

    Now where’s my Braves cap?

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  137. 190 Vox O'Reasoñ February 15, 2019 at 12:51 pm

    It is now being confirmed that the photo that is making its way around the media, and the one that I posted above of Craig Kimbrel in the Orlando airport, was taken 2 years ago. There is nothing going on right now.

    Gabe Burns even noted a few minutes ago: Let’s be clear: There is nothing in the works between Braves and Kimbrel right now.

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  138. 191 Vox O'Reasoñ February 15, 2019 at 1:07 pm

    And now positive Braves “news”…

    Luiz Gohara is 30 lbs. lighter, Mike Soroka and Darren O’Day are 100% healthy, and many of the pitchers have been there for several days already, getting in early work.

    That’s all great news!

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  139. 192 Vox O'Reasoñ February 15, 2019 at 1:15 pm

    ESPN writer Tim Kurkjian is publishing a fun Spring Training story on his twitter site every day. Yesterday’s was classic:

    The first day of spring training 2011, the Twins pranked teammate Denard Span. The whole team was in on it. They told him he needed to introduce himself to new Japanese SS Tsuyoshi Nishioka, who didn’t speak English. But they sent him to the locker of infielder Ray Chang.

    Span bowed respectfully to Chang, welcoming him to the team. “Do you speak any English?” Span asked. Chang said, “Sure I do, I’m from Kansas City!” The whole team, including Span, Chang and Nishioka, howled with laughter.

    😆 😆 😆 😆 😆

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    • 193 Gil in Mechanicsville February 15, 2019 at 4:00 pm

      That was a great story… Got a belly laugh with that one.

      Yes, I got duped by the photo of Kimbrel too. Why are people such A**holes?

      Yes, I got pretty riled by Shultz’ column. Still, there were some accurate points he made, mainly, the Braves front office has said repeatedly they could spend money and would spend it to make the team better. I think the frustrations is going into the season their was an expectation the Braves would make some acquisitions beyond Donaldson who was not really on the Braves radar I don’t think.

      We shall see if Schultz succeeded in shaming Thoppy or if he will now dig in his heels out of spite. One thing for sure, I don’t think he enjoyed surfing the net the last few days.

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  140. 194 berigan2electricboogaloo February 15, 2019 at 2:00 pm

    Again, to be clear, it’s a good place to start. But I still want that veteran addition to my rotation. Add Kimbrel and a top starter and I’ll forget the whole condescending interview.

    V, it’s weird (what berigan, what?) Not sure exactly but, in no way defending the braves higher ups ( as cheap as he team seems, we still aren’t the rays, or the Pirates, the really horrid ownership group in baseball, they draw fans, but will NOT put money back into the team, I would find another team to root for if I lived there, at least until there was new ownership)
    but, Coppy created all sorts of problems, unique perhaps to no other team, ever in baseball. A crazy, unbalanced prospect pool higher in pitching prospects than any other team….ever???? TBQ

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  141. 195 berigan2electricboogaloo February 15, 2019 at 2:21 pm

    I read recently that the Indians were pretty unlikely to trade Corey Kluber…they will more than likely breeze thru the AL central again….so, who is likely available at this point? Who is much better than what we have???
    ok, everyone knows this, but still
    as the rotation stands..
    1. Folty 2.85 ERA , and 27. wasn’t great in the playoffs, but still clearly by all measurements, a #1
    2.Newcomb 3.90 ERA and 25 (mlb site I am grabbing stats from had this tidbit. He had a 3.15 ERA, til his last 8 starts. Worn out from first season??? A clear #2 for most of the season.
    3.Kevin Gausman 2.86 ERA in his 10 starts for the braves. 28. a Veteran. Will he be as good this season? If so, an excellent #3!
    4. Julio Teheran 3.94 ERA and a grizzled vet at 28. We all wish he’d either find that 95 MPH, or go to another team before he is throwing 89 MPH and has a 5.50 ERA. but, from a statistical point only, 3.94 ERA is swell for a #4, right?
    5.Mike Soroka, Touki Toussaint, Kyle Wright, Max Fried, Luiz Gohara and Bryse Wilson are the choices.
    Honestly, if Soroka is healthy, he and Touki should have spots in the rotation. What good does it do the other guys, perhaps everyone but Soroka , to pitch in AAA again? Well, Gohara needs to re-establish himself a bit, and the other guys are still young, folks get injured but still…it’s not “sexy” but we all seem to think, barring injury, all of the prospects will at least be middle of the rotation or better guys, right??? but, unless they trade 2-3 of them, they won’t get a chance because…Teheran is going to clog up the rotation…too expensive to release, so he will keep the team from getting better (unless of course he finds that 5 MPH that abandoned him last year or so, but not too likely)
    so, my point (I think I have one 😉 ) we likely have a “cheap” Ace that just needs a shot…

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  142. 196 Vox O'Reasoñ February 15, 2019 at 2:35 pm

    Who is much better than what we have???

    Who do you prefer in October to start a playoff game, Dallas Keuchel or Julio Teheran? Last October, Snit chose Anibal Sanchez over Julio in the playoffs. That says something to me.

    And sadly, there are no more aces left in the deck. But if I can get DK at a decent value, I prefer him over Julio. I simply cannot trust Julio who is well into his career in Atlanta but has yet to truly establish himself. At some point, he has to either turn it up or move on to greener pastures.

    I don’t want Gio Gonzalez or James Shields or any of those other retreads (with the possible exception of Clay Buchholz). But I’ll take a guy like Keuchel who is a proven horse, has plenty of high leverage experience, and would be a great leader for the youngsters.

    And just so that I’m clear, I don’t want a veteran to take the place of any of our youngsters. I want a guy to replace Julio. Period. I love having one of Mike Soroka, Max Fried, Luiz Gohara or Touki Toussaint as a #5 with the others coming out of the pen. (Don’t sleep on Bryce Wilson, either.) They are all quality arms that we can employ right now.

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  143. 197 berigan2electricboogaloo February 15, 2019 at 2:36 pm

    I also wanted to mention, before I forgot….I HATE a lot of the “new” thinking, like for a century + no one had at some point thought of ideas of today. An opener. We all know that shifts were used 60 years ago…but, anyway…
    shift makes some sense…really don’t think an opener was why the rays won 90 games (I am sure there are stats in games they used an opener) but…now to argue with my get off my lawn old fashioned ways…
    I think the braves could really benefit from , 1, trading Julio for, anything you can get, then using 4 kids in the place of 2 regular starters. we know Soroka, Touki, etc are only going to 5 innings a lot of the time anyways, right? Why not 4 innings, then another starter (meaning knowing they are going to start the night before, prepping as a starter, not a reliever) comes in for the 5th, and goes 3 or 4, then a bullpen arm?
    Gohara , like Folty, may just not do well as a reliever, so have Gohara start a game, and go 4, and have Kyle Wright then come in?
    this keeps young arm’s innings down, but keeps them as starters, and hopefully keeps them fresh, down the stretch ….

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  144. 199 Vox O'Reasoñ February 15, 2019 at 2:38 pm

    The rotation as it stands today:

    Folty
    Newk
    Gausman
    Julio
    Soroka / Gohara / Toussaint

    It’s not so shabby. But I believe we can upgrade that #4 spot, especially since he’s the highest paid dude in that bunch.

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  145. 200 Gil in Mechanicsville February 15, 2019 at 4:16 pm

    Okay, before I completely get off the Julio bus, I know he can be an effective pitcher throw 89 if he can get movement. The velocity or lack there of was not the problem per se, it was he was not longer generating spin thus no movement. He could get guys to two strikes and then they just kept fouling him off until he made a mistake over the plate. Perhaps if he adopted the philosophy of pitching to weak contact (need movement) instead of still believing he is a strikeout pitcher, he could be successful. Let’s see if the new pitching coach has any answers.

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  146. 201 Vox O'Reasoñ February 15, 2019 at 8:25 pm

    This guy is a host on a local sports radio station. I don’t see how he could post something like this if he wasn’t confident in his source. He’ll be crucified if he’s wrong. And the natives are ready for war.

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  147. 202 berigan2electricboogaloo February 16, 2019 at 3:34 am

    a fun video, with one infamous fake moment 😉 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0CCg-2V_bFE

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  148. 204 Vox O'Reasoñ February 16, 2019 at 10:02 am

    Apparently that picture of him in the Orlando airport waiting for his golf clubs was actually a thing.

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  149. 206 Gordon Lawrence February 16, 2019 at 11:15 pm

    11:45 Wednesday GIL

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  150. 209 Vox O'Reasoñ February 17, 2019 at 3:42 pm

    Starting lineup already there early and working out?

    Acuña ✔
    Freddie ✔
    Nick
    Ozzie ✔
    Ender ✔
    McFlowers ✔✔
    Dans ✔

    All but one…

    Oh, and Johan ✔

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    • 210 Vox O'Reasoñ February 17, 2019 at 3:44 pm

      Lemme try that again…

      Starting lineup already there early and working out?

      Acuña ✔
      JD ✔
      Freddie ✔
      Nick
      Ozzie ✔
      Ender ✔
      McFlowers ✔✔
      Dans ✔

      All but one…

      Oh, and Johan ✔

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  151. 211 berigan2electricboogaloo February 18, 2019 at 6:47 am

    Connie Mack and Kid Gleason talkin’ baseball in 1930. Talking about how soft the players of today are, what with their big gloves, and shinguards….what wimps! 😉

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  152. 213 Vox O'Reasoñ February 18, 2019 at 1:03 pm

    I’m getting excited to see this guy grip it and rip it.

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  153. 214 Vox O'Reasoñ February 18, 2019 at 1:08 pm

    Listening to a new interview with AA right now… will try to capsulize his comments in a few. He’s getting hit with some very pointed questions…

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    • 215 Vox O'Reasoñ February 18, 2019 at 1:20 pm

      Strongly hinted that the the team is not a finished product yet.

      Will NOT make a move for optics alone.

      Understands he’s being characterized as cheap.

      Says he’s not trying to be over or under any specific payroll amount… just trying to win games.

      When asked specifically about Harper or Machado, he said, “We keep things close to the vest here. It doesn’t do us any good for people to know who we are trying to sign or who we are trying to trade for. And if it looks like we aren’t doing anything, I’ll have to wear that.” He continued that thought by inferring that just because the Braves have not been connected with any big offers, it doesn’t mean one couldn’t be made. Then he quickly followed by saying that he was NOT hinting that they were making one.

      Asked about trading for a front line pitcher, he said, “If there is a deal that will make this team better, we will certainly look at it.”

      Keeps repeating that depth is vital and important in getting through a season.

      NOTE: Oddly, the topic of Craig Kimbrel was not even brought up by the interviewer.

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  154. 216 Gil in Mechanicsville February 18, 2019 at 3:53 pm

    I guess he failed to mention the foursome that included Kimbrel, Freeman, Thoppy and Dave Meter… That would just be a coincidence.

    Well, it is nice to get at least some nuggets of information about players coming in. One Josh, that is one pretty big leg kick… Okay if it works for him but I see a lot of weak ground balls in that swing… Hey, whatever works, I am not about to try and change him at this point in his career.

    Luiz Gohara is still a pretty big boy. We shall see how it works out for him but I will bet opposing teams will try to bunt on him a lot.

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  155. 217 Gil in Mechanicsville February 18, 2019 at 3:57 pm

    I like Ender’s attitude. He says his goal is to win a A World Series, not just to get back to the play-offs… Freddie seems fixated on getting back to the play-offs. Okay, I get it but Ender is right, don’t accept just okay and not strive for greatness. There is a reason the Yankees are the Yankees. 27 World Championships… Also why every team charges premium when the Yankees roll into town.

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  156. 218 Gil in Mechanicsville February 18, 2019 at 4:00 pm

    Question… Kimbrel says he wants a 6 year $100MM deal, right? So what do you think realistically would be an offer he would accept? 3 years and $50MM ? More? Less?

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    • 219 Vox O'Reasoñ February 18, 2019 at 5:13 pm

      I believe if he would accept 3/50 he’d already be signed. I also believe that’s the right figure. Maybe they can all come to that realization.

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  157. 220 Vox O'Reasoñ February 19, 2019 at 8:57 am

    And with that, the main parties are all here. Haven’t heard about Adam Duvall… but haven’t really been looking for him either.

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  158. 222 Vox O'Reasoñ February 19, 2019 at 9:01 am

    It has been noted many times that Riley will get plenty of time in the OF during the spring. I wonder if he takes to it well enough if there’s any possibility of him breaking camp as the 4th OF? That doesn’t really give Duvall a fair shake I suppose. Hopefully he has a good spring and secures the job for himself.

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    • 223 Gil in Mechanicsville February 19, 2019 at 5:05 pm

      Not to worry, I’ll bet both get lots of time in the outfield in away games this spring. Lots of drills and other ways to prepare. I would love to have the very good problem of having players who’s bat forces a spot in the line up.

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  159. 224 Vox O'Reasoñ February 19, 2019 at 9:04 am

    Acuña ✔
    JD ✔
    Freddie ✔
    Nick ✔
    Ozzie ✔
    Ender ✔
    McFlowers ✔✔
    Dans ✔
    Johan ✔
    Culberson ✔
    Riley✔
    Duvall ?

    Don’t you love it when all the position guys want to be there earlier than they have to be?

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  160. 225 Vox O'Reasoñ February 19, 2019 at 9:30 am

    Update:

    Acuña ✔
    JD ✔
    Freddie ✔
    Nick ✔
    Ozzie ✔
    Ender ✔
    McFlowers ✔✔
    Dans ✔
    Johan ✔
    Culberson ✔
    Riley ✔
    Duvall ✔
    Pache ✔

    Duvey and Cristian Pache were there for Saturday’s workout…

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  161. 226 Vox O'Reasoñ February 19, 2019 at 9:49 am

    What does it say about a team when all of the players are there 5 days earlier than they are supposed to be? I think this team is excited about moving forward after last year’s success. They will not roll over because the national media has written them off again. I think it is a unique circumstance where the defending division champ still has an underdog’s edge.

    As for me, I have also tempered my emotion driven rants from last week. After more reasonable consideration, I realize that the team has added more than they are being credited with.

    Josh Donaldson was a big money signing. The fact that it happened so early doesn’t change that fact.

    Mac will mean more to this team than just catching his share of games – whatever total that turns out to be. He may be the perfect addition for this young staff.

    Darren O’Day is a veteran addition to our pen even if he was actually added last summer. Like JD, does the initial timing really matter? He’s still a strong addition. He’s healthy and experienced in big situations… and checks off one of the early boxes on the “To Do” list even if he was technically already on the roster.

    Maybe adding Rick Kranitz as the new pitching coach mitigates the need to add another veteran starter. With Folty already taking a huge step forward, perhaps Newk is next. And even more importantly, perhaps Kranitz can connect with Julio. Storyline to watch: What can Kranitz do for former top prospect Kevin Gausman? Gausy is still just 28 himself. He still has time to realize the lofty potential that made him the 4th overall draft pick by the Orioles. (NOTE: Philly’s Aaron Nola credits Kranitz for helping him turn the corner and become an “ace”.)

    Only time will tell if bringing Nick back was the right thing to do. The national press points to this move as the singular piece of evidence that Thoppy turned cheap and will not spend any money. I still preferred someone that profiled better to the cleanup role, but only time will tell if this was the right move or not. He’s certainly not a bum… just not the perfect fit to hit behind Freddie. Still, team chemistry is important, and there could not have been a better “addition” than Nick for that department.

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    • 227 Vox O'Reasoñ February 19, 2019 at 9:51 am

      Whoa! I apparently stumbled on a new formatting trick. I’ll have to remember that one. Those are supposed to be more like bullet points, not a big quote.

      Every day that you can learn something new is a good day.

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  162. 228 Vox O'Reasoñ February 19, 2019 at 9:52 am

    Test post

    Quotation line 1

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  163. 229 Vox O'Reasoñ February 19, 2019 at 9:53 am

    Test post 2

    Quotation line 1

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  164. 230 Vox O'Reasoñ February 19, 2019 at 9:54 am

    Hmmm… maybe you cannot close the quotation…

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  165. 231 Vox O'Reasoñ February 19, 2019 at 9:55 am

    Test post 3

    Quotation line 1

    Quotation line 2

    End of test.

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  166. 232 Vox O'Reasoñ February 19, 2019 at 10:59 am

    Markakis notes this morning, courtesy of Gabe Burns:

    Nick Markakis: I’m happy, my family is happy, and that’s all that matters to me.

    Does Markakis have a preference on a lineup spot? “I just come here and look at the board.”

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  167. 233 Vox O'Reasoñ February 19, 2019 at 11:05 am

    Given that JD has emphatically stated he prefers the #2 spot in the lineup, and given that RAJ has not quite as emphatically stated his preference to remain in the leadoff spot, I imagine the lineup looking something like:

    RAJ (R)
    JD (R)
    Freddie (L)
    Nick (L)
    Ozzie (S)
    Ender (L)
    McFlowers (P)
    Dans (R)

    5-7 is kind of iffy for me.

    But to echo the thoughts of Freddie, the top 3 in this lineup are all legit MVP candidates. What other team can boast that?

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  168. 234 Vox O'Reasoñ February 19, 2019 at 12:34 pm

    Wow. Seems like a good landing spot for him. Can Harper be much farther behind to sign? I’m betting today or tomorrow. Then the other big 2 will follow like dominoes… Keuchel and Kimbrel. Still holding out hope that CK comes back home.

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  169. 236 Gordon Lawrence February 19, 2019 at 1:17 pm

    Gil in Mechanicsville
    February 17, 2019 at 9:48 am

    Will be there…

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    Gordon Lawrence
    February 19, 2019 at 1:15 pm    
    
    GIL too much snow tonight and tomorrow for an old man. Friday same time O.K.?
    
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  170. 239 Gil in Mechanicsville February 19, 2019 at 5:13 pm

    test question

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  171. 240 Gil in Mechanicsville February 19, 2019 at 5:16 pm

    Well, you can use to put into quotation marks but easier to just use the quotation marks key…

    Hey Margie, whatever happened to the emojis you could use with word press?

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  172. 243 Gil in Mechanicsville February 19, 2019 at 7:05 pm

    So, it appears that we have a winner in the “where’s Manny Sweepstakes” reportedly is signing a 10 year $300MM guarantee with an opt out after five years with the Padres. Hey, San Diego is a really nice place to visit.

    He turned down similar deal with the White Sox. I guess he did not want to take a chance on running into any Nigerians…

    Padres are still a couple of years away from being a contender IMHO… NO PITCHING….
    They lost 63 games last season and I just don’t see them making a 30 game swing in one year. We have seen the fathers try to assemble talent before but you still need to assemble a team.

    So, the bar is set for Bryce Harper. “Hey Bryce.. The White Sox are calling”

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  173. 246 Vox O'Reasoñ February 20, 2019 at 7:56 am

    He turned down similar deal with the White Sox.

    Actually, the ChiSox offered more available money. The difference was that their offer was for 8 years / $250M in guaranteed money, with incentives and vesting options that could trigger 2 additional years and a possible $350M maximum value. But Manny opted for the greater guaranteed amount. Hard to blame him. It’s also hard to blame a guy from South Fla choosing San Diego over Chicago. I mean, when the number of average daily shootings is higher than the average daily temperature, it’s not a hard choice.

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  174. 247 Vox O'Reasoñ February 20, 2019 at 8:02 am

    Padres are still a couple of years away from being a contender IMHO… NO PITCHING

    Exactly right. But they are continuing to try to trade for another pitcher. They still have a surplus of OF’ers and some desirable relievers. And while they might find some help somewhere, it’s probably not going to matter anyway. Let’s face it, it’s going to be very tough to overcome the Dodgers even with more pitching, and there is a decent chance both Wild Cards could come from the NL East.

    Still, the games have to be played on the field, so ya never know.

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  175. 248 Vox O'Reasoñ February 20, 2019 at 8:26 am

    So the Phillies, who said they were going to spend “stupid money” this offseason, were quoted yesterday as saying they did not outbid SD for Manny because the money would not make sense for their business model over the life of the deal. Isn’t that what “stupid” means?

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  176. 249 Gil in Mechanicsville February 20, 2019 at 9:17 am

    Good morning, looks like winter is hanging on here. Okay, it is still winter… ICK…

    On the current media hoopla over the those mean owners not wanting to pay those wonderful player what they want.. Okay, players have the right to not accept a job just like owners don’t have the right to force a player to play. I never made as much money as I wanted but I did earn more than I deserved on occasion.

    Now, sign Craig Kimbrel and it will all be okay. Sure, their are no guarantees in life, maybe even less so when it comes to pitching but I don’t see Visciano holding up this season. I’d rather have him as a set up guy than as the closer.

    I am surprized the Phillies have not jumped on the Kimbrel band wagon already. I think it would be more powerful signing than Harper.

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  177. 251 Vox O'Reasoñ February 20, 2019 at 11:28 am

    I need to research these numbers for myself, but I heard a breakdown of numbers from the local sports station’s “business” guy yesterday, regarding the apparent fallacy that the Braves for not spending.

    According to him, and I am retelling this in general amounts, if you look at the breakdown of the money, they actually have added about $37M to the 2019 payroll for players who were not on the roster last year. That is the 4th (uh, maybe 5th now after San Diego, not sure) highest amount in MLB… higher than LAD, BOS, NYY, CHC, and all those typical big spenders.

    And for those players who were here last year, it’s close to another $23M added back, including the new deal for Markakis and the contracts added back through arb agreements, etc. That’s near $60M total added back to the existing commitments, which themselves were right at about $60M already.

    Thus, right now, they are sitting right around $120M in total payroll committed for 2019.

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  178. 252 Gil in Mechanicsville February 20, 2019 at 12:01 pm

    Still would love to add Kimbrel… Not sure he is a must have but then again, neither was Josh Donaldson. Craig just makes the Braves bullpen that much stronger and deeper. Yes, I’m sure the top brass would love to see what some of the young studs can do but they can do that at Cool Ray…

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  179. 254 Gordon Lawrence February 20, 2019 at 12:11 pm

    Went down memory lane to 1957

    Starters

    BOB BUHL
    LEW BURDETTE
    GENE CONLEY
    WARREN SPAHN
    BOB TROWBRIDGE
    JUAN PIZZARO – rookie

    Bullpen

    TAYLOR PHILLIPS – spot start/long relief
    ERNIE JOHNSON
    DAVE JOLLY
    DON McMAHON – closer

    C

    DEL CRANDALL
    DEL RICE

    IF

    JOE ADCOCK – 1B
    RED SCHOENDIENST – 2B
    JOHNNY LOGAN – SS
    EDDIE MATHEWS – 3B

    IF BENCH

    FRANK TORRE
    FELIX MANTILLA
    DANNY O’CONNELL

    OF

    WES COVINGTON – LF
    BILLY BRUTON – CF
    HANK AARON – RF

    OF Bench

    BOBBY THOMSON
    CHUCK TANNER
    ANDY PAFKO

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  180. 255 Gil in Mechanicsville February 20, 2019 at 8:16 pm

    “The pitcher who topped out at a flabby 315 pounds last spring reported to camp this week at just below 275.

    Teammates, coaches and others could hardly believe when they saw him for the first time since late summer. He’s 40 pounds lighter but with a more defined upper body, having reshaped his physique through weightlifting along with cardio work and dietary improvements.

    “Everybody says they can notice in my shoulders,” Gohara said, his pride evident in a little smile. “I lost weight, but I didn’t stop working, I was putting in muscle what I was losing in fat.”

    From DOB’s interview with Luiz Gohara in the Athletic

    He really went thru horrible depression after he lost his father. I am glad the Braves did not give up on him.

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  181. 258 Gil in Mechanicsville February 21, 2019 at 10:19 am

    So, did anyone else see Nike’s epic fail last night when Zion Williams had a tennis shoe blow out last night? Same is happening to Nike stock this morning. Couldn’t happen to a more deserving shoe company.

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  182. 259 Gil in Mechanicsville February 21, 2019 at 10:21 am

    Of course Zion has been besieged by calls from ambulance chasers around the world offering to represent him on a contingency bases for wrongful injury. 🙂

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  183. 260 Vox O'Reasoñ February 21, 2019 at 11:20 am

    Prediction: Philly will miss out on Bryce, and will turn to Keuchel… and will be better for it. As much as I’d love to have Bryce on my team, he’s not quite as impactful as his legend right now. Philly will be a tougher team if they strengthen their rotation, IMO.

    If you ask me today, I think Bryce will go to San Fran, but they will still not be a contender, much like San Diego with Machado. That said, that division will be a slugfest in 2020 when both Sans fill some holes. In the case of San Fran, they might fill some holes by trading MadBum to ATL at the deadline. It could happen.

    As for Kimbrel..? Hard to say. I still think he’ll end up here if his demands drop a little more. But once Bryce signs, the leftover teams will all scramble to spend their money on a name, and Dirty Craig could still get his bank.

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  184. 261 Gil in Mechanicsville February 21, 2019 at 11:24 am

    “I think I’ve got to learn from it. I’ve learned the most from failures in my career and in life. I’m just going to learn from that September that I had.”

    Dan Winkler

    Just like most of us in the real world… Never be afraid to let your children fail at something because it creates a lasting impression. To me it is why participation trophies are a farce. We create a nation of failures in the world arena but they at least have high self esteem.

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    • 262 Vox O'Reasoñ February 21, 2019 at 11:33 am

      I like Wink alot. I think he has tremendous talent and can be a force in our bullpen. And don’t forget, 2018 was just his first full season back from 2 serious elbow injuries. Remember seeing him fracture that elbow after coming back from TJ? I see 2019 as his best chance to realize his great potential… especially seeing that he is approaching last September as a learning experience.

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  185. 263 Vox O'Reasoñ February 21, 2019 at 11:29 am

    Speaking of Bryce, Jon Heyman recently reported that “Bryce Harper is believed to have turned down multiple offers over 300M in recent weeks. at least 5 teams are believed still in contact.”

    But that was before Manny signed, and San Diego, believed to be one of the 5 teams, has now said they’re out. Same with the ChiSox, who’s GM appears to be butthurt over being spurned by Manny.

    So the remaining teams would be PHI, SFG and WSH.

    IMO, the Nats are out. Some things have been leaked out to the media from some staff in Wash that is not very flattering of Bryce. That kind of stuff likely wouldn’t happen if the team was still making a push to bring him back. And in all honesty, it doesn’t make any sense for them anyway. I think they’re hanging around the periphery solely for PR purposes so they can tell their fanbase they made the effort. But with the young OF they will have without Bryce, combined with the greater need of extending Anthony Rendon, giving Bryce the keys to the vault makes no sense for them.

    So that essentially leaves the Giants and Philthies. I get the feeling that Bryce has no desire to play in front of those Philly nutcase fans. (Who would?) I’m of the opinion he’s simply holding out for San Fran to match Philly’s offer.

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  186. 264 Gil in Mechanicsville February 21, 2019 at 11:33 am

    Do, the Braves have oodles of young arms itching to make a name for themselves in the bigs. That is great and I hope they do but the difference between having a bevy of young strong arms in the pen vs a veteran like Craig is nerves… Someone who has been there and done that, someone who can remain cool under fire and come back the next night if things do always go as planned.

    What did Flo say the biggest difference between 2017 Folty and 2018 Folty? He came back from adversity after one pitch instead of 3 hitters. That is the difference between a talented youngster and a talented veteran.

    Now, if our new pitching coach can just teach Julio an out pitch to use on a hitter after he gets two strikes on the batter….

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  187. 265 Gil in Mechanicsville February 21, 2019 at 11:39 am

    So, I guess the question to ask is if Bryce is so great, why doesn’t he have a WS ring? To be sure, San Fran may be a perfect fit of Bryce Harper. After all, they appear to be able to suffer fools gladly. They did have Barry Bonds on their team and I know of no one who had a bigger ego than big head. Well, maybe Reggie Jackson or possibly Ricky Henderson but modern era? Bryce might just be number one….

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    • 266 Vox O'Reasoñ February 21, 2019 at 12:28 pm

      I do believe he has a great ego, but not anywhere near the “ass on the shoulders” character of Bonds or Reggie. It’s more of an extreme cockiness (backed up, BTW), and Ricky is a pretty good comp. That said, San Fran is quite capable of taking on a great ego, and Bryce would thrive hitting shots into the bay. That fanbase would practically worship him. It’s the best fit for him, IMO.

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    • 267 Vox O'Reasoñ February 21, 2019 at 12:35 pm

      if Bryce is so great, why doesn’t he have a WS ring?

      Well, one man does not make a team, but there is alot more wrong in Wash than personnel. Just ask the bevy of managers they’ve had since 2011. Who can forget this image?

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  188. 269 Vox O'Reasoñ February 21, 2019 at 12:29 pm

    I hope he’s spending alot of time with Cristan Pache.

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  189. 271 Gil in Mechanicsville February 21, 2019 at 2:13 pm

    So, Dan Dowd projects Kimbrel 3 years – $48MM .. That was pretty close to mine.

    Still they believe the Phillies are interested but could make their team much better signing Kimbrel, Gonzalas and Cuchel for about the same money but fewer years. I concur, Braves don’t need Marwin but could do the same.

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  190. 273 Vox O'Reasoñ February 21, 2019 at 2:19 pm

    That’s where he has the most trade value. Just sayin’.

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  191. 274 Gil in Mechanicsville February 21, 2019 at 2:30 pm

    Spring training is to baseball people as an auto show is to a car dealer… Always looking to see what’s new and the latest model coming out.

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